The United States is considering retaliatory measures to "violation" of the INF Treaty by Russia

The US Congress was presented a report on the alleged violation by Russia of the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF). RT. In this regard, the Congress discusses legislative measures for the "military response" of Russia.

In a report, American analysts again accuse Russia of violating the INF. There are no arguments or evidence. Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that since the US is looking for a pretext to exit from a strategic agreement. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs stressed that in fact the process of withdrawing Washington from the treaty has already been launched.

The President of Russia noted that the United States is violating the INF Treaty, and gave an example of the deployment of Aegis missile defense launchers in Romania, which can be reformatted to use attack missiles.

Also in the document submitted to the US Congress, various options for action are proposed in relation to Russia, in connection with the appearance of a new cruise missile that, according to the authors of the report, violates the provisions of the treaty.

These options include both military measures (such as the development and deployment of new cruise missiles with nuclear warheads or new non-nuclear weapons) and diplomatic steps, as well as consultations with US allies

- noted in the report.

The document notes that such US actions could undermine the unity of NATO and aggravate political differences in the European Union.

Comments

[Machete]

The next sanctions. Clearly understood.
And under the fierce cries of (theirs) they themselves will triple in violation of all that is possible.

[Egorovich]

"Dear" Americans, wait for the "Vanguard point RU" gift on medium and short-range missiles. I'm very happy for you !!!

[Finches]

I hate Anglo-Saxons !!!!!

[asar]

Good day, Eugene!
Well, do not be so categorical!
You just might not wish them a New Year!

[novel66]

and here it is not necessary so politically correct. hatred in this case is quite justified

[asar]

Well why so! It is quite politically correct, but hatred slips between the lines:
Pin Dos! We do not wish you a New Year!
And a video with the launch of Avangard!

[novel66]

and the credits: "Come on, catch it." well, in this context ...

[asar]

Well, sort of!
Although our missiles are difficult to "catch"!
And about "Vanguard" ......!
I remembered, on occasion, though "bearded", but still:
The Americans launched a nuclear missile in the direction of the USSR, they responded to them.
Two nuclear missiles are encountered, the Soviet one asks the American:
“And how far are you going?”
- Yes, here I am flying to you in Moscow, and where are you going?
“And I am going to you in Washington ...”
- Listen, so according to our custom, we should drink for a meeting!
Poured into a glass, drank, an American rocket:
- Well, flew on?
- Where have you flown? According to our custom, after the first, they drink the second immediately!
They poured another glass, drank, an American rocket:
- Well that's it, let's scatter!
- Where to fly? You will fly to us - perish, I will fly to you - perish, we must drink for peace!
They poured another glass, drank, an American rocket:
- Oh, something is no longer good for me ...
Soviet rocket:
- Well then, come on, dear, I will see you home ...

[hydrox]

Maybe it is justified, but the feeling is too strong - they did not deserve it.
It’s something like calling a duel — too much honor, but just filling your face and letting your yushka go - it will be just that! ;-))

[NEXUS]

Quote: asar

You just might not wish them a New Year!

They did not want them in the form of launches of the Vanguard and Sarmat and the setting on duty of Peresvet. And I think so in 19 the "gifts" from our Santa Claus will not end with this news.

[asar]

This is just the beginning! Flowers, so to speak ......!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: asar

You just might not wish them a New Year!

Or maybe it’s better to wish? To wish the New Year continuous disappointments and concerns!

[sabakina]

Quote: Finches

I hate Anglo-Saxons !!!!!

Calm Eugene, calmer ... Or did you forget where the button is located? You're a connection, not a gramophone!

[Gardamir]

I hate Anglo-Saxons !!!!!

Wrong address. Nobody could talk with the Soviet Union in that tone. And these with their ideology of partnership, with admiration for the West. Well, of course, on TV they are patriots for smerds. And in fact?

[evgen1221]

The United States is non-negotiable, what prevents us from doing the same?

[solzh]

Quote: evgen1221

The United States is non-negotiable, what prevents us from doing the same?

Foreign policy of the government and the oligarchy.

[For example]

Quote: solzh

The United States is non-negotiable, what prevents us from doing the same?

Also become "incapable of negotiation"?

Where is the logic? What is the essence of your proposal?

For example, "Vanguard", which hit a target in Kamchatka, is one of the responses to "incapacity".

[solzh]

Quote: For example

Quote: solzh

The United States is non-negotiable, what prevents us from doing the same?

Also become "incapable of negotiation"?

Where is the logic? What is the essence of your proposal?

For example, "Vanguard", which hit a target in Kamchatka, is one of the responses to "incapacity".

You are a little mistaken addressee
But I will answer.
Enough to defend ourselves, the states have trampled international law, and we are all clinging to something that is practically gone. And if states do not want to abide by international law, then why should we abide by it? What is the point of this? States are intoxicated with their permissiveness. And if Russia ceases to be conservative in foreign policy, then such a cooling shower will suddenly sober up the states. That is my opinion.

[hydrox]

Correctly thinking :: I think that our Foreign Ministry needs to prepare all the documents for our withdrawal from the INF Treaty, where the reason is to indicate dissatisfaction with the behavior of the United States engaged in nuclear blackmail of Russia, which is an insurmountable obstacle to the continuation of contractual relations

[asar]

The time will come, it will not be at the Kura training ground!
But I hope such a time never comes!

[lopvlad]

Quote: evgen1221

what prevents us from doing the same

type of the existing elite. It still continues to bet on the Western way of life, buys real estate from them, hides money there, educates children and grandchildren there.
They’ll call Zolotov from the USA and hint that if something happens, his granddaughters will sit there for life and any other official who has children there.

[Tarhan]

The United States is non-negotiable, what prevents us from doing the same?

Stumbling block on the INF Treaty.

"The United States believes that Russia should get rid of the 9M729 missile system, either modify it in accordance with the requirements of the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF Treaty), signed by the leaders of the United States and the USSR in 1987. Otherwise, the United States will begin the procedure to withdraw from the treaty. This was announced on December 6 by Andrea Thompson, Deputy Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security. "

To modify this, transfer the 9M729 from ground to air or sea. Mid-range air or sea-based missiles do not fall under the INF Treaty from the moment of signing the treaty.

"The Russian President noted that the United States itself is violating the INF Treaty, and gave an example of the deployment of Aegis missile defense launchers in Romania, which can be reformatted to use attack missiles."

And the Kremlin claimed that 9M729 missiles are not medium-range missiles.

The United States invited the Russian Federation to come to Romania and conduct an inspection of the missile defense battery. Instead, they asked for permission to inspect the installation of 9M729 missiles. Then the Russian Federation would make sure that the launch containers are intended only for missile defense. And the United States would make sure that 9M729 missiles have a range of less than 500 km.

The Kremlin refused a mutual inspection and the White House announced its withdrawal from the INF Treaty.

[Tarhan]

The Kremlin did not take into account all the consequences of the INF Treaty’s rupture. Indeed, the United States will respond to the deployment of 9M729 missiles in the western territories of the Russian Federation by deploying its medium-sized missiles in Europe. Medium-range missiles have a flying time of 5-10 minutes.

And what will this mean?
And the fact that 9M729 missiles will not reach the United States, they will be launched in Europe. And American medium missiles from Europe will hit the Russian Federation. And under equal conditions for exchanging strategic missile attacks, the United States has the advantage, in addition to strategists, to bring down its medium-sized missiles from Europe to the Russian Federation. And under certain conditions, and to deliver a pre-emptive missile strike on the territory of the Russian Federation, this allows flying time. But the Russian Federation to deliver a preemptive strike on US territory with 9M729 missiles will be impossible.

He gave information, conclusions to do to you, at least some.

[hydrox]

And can someone call me a massive American medium-range missile with a ground-based or mobile-based YaBG, at least of the Topol type (even though it is outdated)?
If the Axes are meant, then this is not serious - too many of them were killed in the Syrian deserts to be able to bet on surprise, given that all carriers will be destroyed (shot down and drowned) before the massive volley is completed.
The aircraft carriers feel sorry for everyone: both Yusovskys and EUs ... Aegis destroyers were also well tailored (though according to the old-fashioned style (again with Axes ...)) - but they will have eternal memory.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Tarkhan

And the fact that 9M729 missiles will not reach the United States, they will be launched in Europe. And American medium missiles from Europe will hit the Russian Federation.

Do Americans think they will sit out quietly in the event of a big nix? And about the Vanguards. who take over duty in 2019 and who fly from Chelyabinsk to the United States in less than 7 minutes have they heard? Yes, and Poseidonchikov off the coast of the "chosen ones" will soon be swimming immensely, and the Sarmatians, on occasion, will fly through Antarctica and give a big greeting. Americans are looking for adventure on their own. The hike has already been found.

[SETTGF]

Tarkhan (Temir)! It won't take long for us to deliver our medium-range missiles, as in Soviet times! And put them on "automatic" ... When their medium-range missiles take off in our direction - in response our medium-range missile will take off in their direction, this will level the flight time of 5-10 minutes and there is no need to make a long decision ... was made in the USSR. The US and its gay Europe won't benefit from this!

[Tarhan]

We do not have long to deliver our medium-range missiles, as in Soviet times!

So they already are, these are 9M729 missiles, namely, that these medium-range missiles of the USA come out of the INF Treaty.

Do Americans think they’ll calmly sit out in case of a big sheer?

They NEVER thought to sit out in a nuclear war. They have the same understanding of nuclear conflict as the USSR and the Russian Federation. TOTAL MUTUAL DESTRUCTION. And you, Urashniki drugged by propaganda, are all playing bravado - Yes, we are them. Yes we are. Yes, destroy, Yes, erase.

And can someone call me a massive American medium-range missile with a ground-based or mobile-based nuclear weapon

The United States does not have such a medium-range missile at the moment. They had Pershing 2, but under an agreement with the USSR on the INF Treaty of 1987, they were destroyed. Just like Soviet medium-range missiles Pioneer.

The agreement would continue to operate further if the Russian Federation had not created a 9M729 land-based. This is a medium-range missile, and it is because of it that the USA is withdrawing from the INF Treaty.

Well, with the highest R&D of the USA, with the financial capabilities of the USA, with the US production base, they will develop their medium-range missile within a year. They will also test it in a year or two - they will poke Europe like the needles of a hedgehog.

[SETTGF]

Tarkhan (Temir)! You are so stubborn that you say one thing, and you, as a "stubborn Ukrainian", carry your mantra praising your rulers from the United States ... Do not write the same thing, spitting on Russia ... Do not lie about the 9M729 missile, which does not fall under the terms of the INF Treaty! VO site is for decent people, specialists, not trolls ...

[Tarhan]

You are so stubborn that you say one thing, and you, as a "stubborn Ukrainian", carry your mantra praising your rulers from the United States ... Do not write the same thing, spitting on Russia ...

Your opinion, this is an opinion for a stubborn Uroshnik.

I do not praise the rulers of the United States. I in my posts reflected my opinion on the INF Treaty. And did not expect that everyone would like it.

That you in your offer do not give a damn. Russia in history and status is a great state. I disagree with the Kremlin’s policy on certain issues. That's all.

But to write or not to write, so this is purely not your business. And then I look at you trying on a cassock of Thomas Torquemada.

And Trump is not my president, I have a different president.

[crocodile25]

Note our missiles in Mexico are not worth it.

[Tarhan]

Note our missiles in Mexico are not worth it.

Put it. The ABM systems limitation treaty does not apply. So, the Russian Federation with S-400 installations in Mexico does not violate anything.

It remains only to agree with Mexico. And why will these missile defense systems in Mexico be shot down. Or do you think the United States will launch a nuclear bombardment of Mexico?

[aszzz888]

The document notes that such US actions could undermine the unity of NATO and aggravate political differences in the European Union.

... why "can"? ... the riot has already gone to geyrope ...

[Digital error]

already razdra went in geyrope

do not read before dinner the federal newspapers ...

[hydrox]

Quote: aszzz888

already discord went in geyrop ...

So this is good!
It’s still necessary to add kerosene!

[asar]

"Russia is blamed again"
Well, everyone would be surprised to hear the opposite!

I remember that the United States reproached China for not being part of the INF Treaty! What in Beijing expressively twisted a finger at the temple!

[NordUral]

I remember that the United States reproached China for not being part of the INF Treaty! What in Beijing expressively twisted a finger at the temple!
This is not only for the Americans, but also for us. And absolutely right.

[asar]

The whole joke is that the United States, being connected by the INF Treaty, could not officially undertake against the same China, which was not connected with the United States by any treaty!
And in order to "catch up and overtake" the United States, all accusations were thrown in our direction!
Allegedly, they are so ....!
And the whole problem is something else!
Now about us!
What and when did we break?

[Russia]

There will be no evidence, in the end it turns out that only we need them, the rest is on the drum. So we breathe evenly, we go right on the right path.

[Digital error]

There will be no evidence

Of course it will not, this is slyness. How do you (booty of evidence) imagine - what would they specifically be? CIA / FSB approval for all design bureaus and rocket facilities of countries, including already closed and still planned / under construction ?? Brad

[Russia]

We need us, in terms of the statements of our leadership, and I have them on the drum, I hope you too.

[Digital error]

Unfortunately (?) The statements of our management after the pension maneuver no longer interest me. Inside the Moscow Ring Road think in other categories, terribly far from the common people

[Russia]

I agree, from the inside of the Moscow Ring Road, there are less and less joyful news. We will not give up and become discouraged, my friend. Happy New Year!

[Digital error]

Mutually! Nobody is going to give up, the struggle is never in vain.

[Consultant]

Quote: DigitalError

Inside the MKAD they think in other categories, terribly far from ordinary people

Inside the Moscow Ring Road - 10% of the population of the Russian Federation. What, after all, they all think "not like a common people"?

PS: the well-known Sylvester here, for example - also "inside the Moscow Ring Road"

[Digital error]

Inside the Moscow Ring Road-a - 10% of the population of the Russian Federation

I guess you understand who I meant.

[APASUS]

The Americans’s withdrawal from the INF Treaty will not work if they are deployed again in Europe, and Europe will not be thrilled.

[Henderson]

Exit just gives a lot. A new arms race will unfold. The USA and China are economically capable of pulling it; Russia is not.

[dvina71]

Quote: Henderson

The USA and China are economically capable of pulling it; Russia is not.

What is the conclusion?

[Henderson]

From the state of the Russian economy and the delays of Armat, Su-57, MiG-35, shipbuilding, and heaps of everything else. The arms race will require an order of magnitude more resources.
All this is very reminiscent of the late USSR. Weapons riveted mountains, but there was nothing to eat.

[dvina71]

Quote: Henderson

All this is very reminiscent of the late USSR. Weapons riveted mountains, but there was nothing to eat.

Wrong conclusions are made from false postulates .. this is your case. The collapse of the USSR and the arms race are connected indirectly. When I was called up to the SA in 1989, there were no problems with eating. Shops were not empty. But in 91 .. when he returned .. for some reason the goods were in warehouses, but in stores empty ... Surely the arms race is to blame for this?

[Henderson]

Quote: dvina71

Surely the arms race is to blame for this?

Yes. This was one of the most important factors. More than a third of the country's budget was spent on playing war games. This is overkill.
But modern Russia does not even stand close to the late USSR for any resources. And to try to compete with the 1st economy of the world without engaging in your own, this is the path to suicide. Any war is primarily an economy. The number of tanks and guns is secondary.

[dvina71]

Quote: Henderson

Yes. This was one of the most important factors.

Can you confirm it with numbers? I have such data ..
"in 1968 - 16,7 billion rubles (2,6% of the GNP level of 1980), 1975-1976 - 17,4 billion (2,8%), 1980-1984 - 17,1 billion (2,7 , 1987%), 20,2 - 3,2 billion (XNUMX%) "
You can challenge them ... only the words of Shevarnadze and Gorbachev do not need to be given .. exclusively a statistic .. please ..

[Henderson]

You confuse the country's GDP and budget.
http://su90.ru/uobor.pdf
For example, here is a table from the Goskomstat of the USSR. We look at budget revenues and defense spending. In general, it’s all quite difficult to evaluate, a lot of expenses were broken down by various ministries and were not formally related to the military commissar. But just remember, for example, the Energy-Buran program. Only 2 million people worked for it alone.

[dvina71]

Quote: Henderson

You confuse the country's GDP and budget.

You are confusing it all. But even in your link it is stated / that the expenditures on the defense of the USSR are not more than 10% of GNP .., almost 10 times more were spent on the national economy, and two-three times more on science, and only 89-90 expenses caught up .. In general .. military spending .. were not some serious burden for the economy of the USSR.

[Henderson]

Again GNP. I actually talked about the budget.

Quote: dvina71

In general ... military expenses .. were not some serious burden for the economy of the USSR.

on the whole, in the USSR there was nothing to eat in the end, nothing to put on, and in general there was little, but there were tens of thousands of tanks and many other deadly gizmos.
L is the logic.

[dvina71]

Quote: Henderson

in general, in the USSR there was nothing to eat in the end

In general, in the year 91m the warehouses were full of goods .. I saw this personally. Mountains of rotting potatoes, which were simply thrown out of the car into the ditch .. there was no place in the warehouse. And a trickle of soapy water from the warehouse gates ... there was no roof, but they even stuffed laundry detergent there ... not to store it outside ... but at that time (June-July 1991) grandmothers had been waiting in line for washing powder since evening. And in a strange way .. in September 1991, the shops suddenly again filled with goods .. the truth at a new price .. free ... And where did they come from?

[Henderson]

Quote: dvina71

warehouses were full of goods

Quote: dvina71

Mountains of rotting potatoes

Either warehouses are clogged with goods, or rotting potatoes in rotting warehouses. Decide for a start.
I've personally seen lines for primitive Soviet TVs and even for school notebooks. How can I replace them with rotten potatoes of the mind I can’t imagine.

Quote: dvina71

And where did they come from?

Import from the hated west. At appropriate prices.

[hydrox]

Do not blah blah!
Russia already has nowhere to go, because our advantages in weapons will be enough for us for another 15-20 years. If the Americans do not believe, you can tear a small head, not more than 20 Kt, somewhere in the Yukon ... ;-))
And there, you see, this is not required at all ...

[Henderson]

Quote: hydrox

for our advantages in weapons will be enough for us for another 15-20 years

Where did you see the benefits? There is parity only on nuclear warheads. For all other types of weapons, Russia is seriously (several times in places) inferior to NATO. And in economic power - dozens of times. In other words, NATO countries, if necessary, can simply fill up with numbers. About the quality here you can argue for a long time.

[dvina71]

Quote: Henderson

And in economic power - dozens of times.

Yes, hundreds of .. hundreds .. Nothing at the current costs of the economies of Western countries should produce as much as they produce per year .. do you suggest they still have to work hard? And start producing insulated diapers?

[hydrox]

Quote: Henderson

In other words, NATO countries, if necessary, can simply fill up with numbers.

The quality of NATO weapons, their combat effectiveness and the NATO’s desire to fight (all the more so with Russia!) Can be detected with a picroscope, having rummaged in her place.
All NAT about (oh!) Shouts profusely as soon as he hears about the need to fight with Russia ... ;-))

[Henderson]

Throw in hats!

[hydrox]

If you have the courage to throw something towards Russia ...

[Henderson]

The Turks calmly shot down the plane. Israel calmly shot down a plane.

[hydrox]

Is it really calm?
And how many hours were kneeling in the waiting room and in front of Putin Erdogan, Netanyahu and a whole bunch of high officials? ;-))

[Henderson]

Which lap? Tomatoes scared?

[hydrox]

Russia received SUCH political kickbacks for these planes that you cannot even dream of it! Accordingly, Israel NOW will receive SUCH a "black mark" that it will be afraid to take off from Israeli airfields with the risk of getting a missile in the ass, and not that snooping in the Lebanese sky ...

[Henderson]

And what are the kickbacks? Turkish stream cut to one pipe?

[hydrox]

You see !?
And the Jews flew to bomb where the answer wouldn’t fly by their snot! ..
They flew to Egypt! ;-))

[Henderson]

Only now two threads of pipes from the Turkish stream were cut into metal

[hydrox]

And what does the Turkish piece of iron have to do with the Israeli Air Force-bz-do-us? So in the dumb diapers and fly?
We would go to the parking lot, bring warm water, help to wash ourselves, ventilate the cabin ... ;-))

[Henderson]

What is the profit from crap diapers for Russian citizens? The destruction of two pipes is a direct loss. Pampers what gave?

[Vadim237]

NATO countries are the same paper Tiger as the CSTO - one for all and each for itself, in which case.

[NordUral]

From the point of view of the arrogant Saxons, a reasonable policy is to blame the first. It seems that it is time for Russia to accept the realities of modern life, and it is not difficult to find reasons. Stop defending!

[Petrels Vanguard Iskanderovich]

2019 forecast year:

1. USA. Against the backdrop of Democrats gaining control of the House of Representatives, as well as Mueller's February (2019) report, Congress will impeach Trump. In response, Donald will lead millions of white middle-class people and workers onto the streets of American cities. In America, as you know, citizens have a huge amount of weapons in their hands. Protests will begin, escalating into shootouts, confrontations and corpses. A civil war will break out in the States, which will end in collapse. Alaska will be asked to join Russia, California will declare independence. America will collapse, and the planet will be the final death of a unipolar world. By the way, Trump is certainly leading to his own impeachment, to plan "B". Since plan "A" - to lift sanctions against Russia and improve relations, did not materialize - the diplomatic state tightly tied the arms and legs of the Kremlin agent. As a result, Donald will embody a tough option with the US Civil War, which will begin in February-March 2019

2. Ukraine. Looking at the collapse of the United States, Poroshenko will understand that he will end and will try to escape from Ukraine. Naturally, he will not succeed, he will be arrested and sentenced to life or execution for war crimes. Not without the help of Russia, of course. The Russian Federation will also insist on its candidate - it can be either Boyko, or the return of Yanukovych, illegally suspended as a result of the coup, who, however, will not stay for long, will announce early elections, in which, again, either Boyko, Tsarev, or some she’s also a pro-Russian candidate. All of New Russia, including Transnistria, will declare independence and either immediately become part of Russia, or a little later. Russia will deploy its troops in this territory as peacekeeping forces. Transcarpathia may go to Hungary, and the western regions of Ukraine to Poland. But here I’m not sure, 50/50. The center of Ukraine will remain Ukraine, but under the control of the pro-Russian president (Boyko / Tsarev, etc.)

3. Belarus will finally come to terms with the fate of being absorbed by Russia. But the union itself is unlikely to happen in 2019, most likely it will take place closer to 2024.

4. Abkhazia and South Ossetia - 1in1 with Belarus

5. Russia in 2019 will replenish, at least, Alaska. New Russia, Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Belarus will clearly understand the inevitability of unification with Russia, but the entry itself will not necessarily happen in the coming year. But Alaska, yes, it will be in Russia already in 2019. The Eurasian Customs Union will actively develop

6. NATO will disintegrate, or shrink many times and completely lose its dominance

7. The EU will come out of NATO, and also in general, out of US control. The European Union will establish truly friendly partnerships with Russia. The EU and the Customs Union will unite into a single Eurasian Economic Union from Lisbon to Vladivostok. In Russia, in addition to military-political power, the standard of living will begin to grow significantly. True, for the most part, already in the 20s, and not in 2019, at 19 only a trend

8. Poland and the Baltic states will be in a difficult situation. Putin will fully come off on these pugs for all their dirty tricks. Although I do not exclude that, out of kindness, he will spare

9. Britain will be in a similar position, like paragraph 8., but still it is stronger than those two P. and it will be difficult for them, but so far, probably not on the brink of disaster

10. China will continue to be our good partner, there will be no confrontation between the two new superpowers of the 21st century - the Russian Union (Russia, Belarus, Novorossiya, Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Alaska) and China. This is simply uninteresting for China; it will dominate its region. Although Russia will be a global power, it will not so brazenly interfere in affairs around the world, and will respect everyone, even the smallest and weakest. World political processes will be determined by several large blocs (the Eurasian Union (Europe + Russia), China, the Middle East, the African Union, etc.) in good partnerships. The greatly reduced and weakened United States will become something like modern Canada. The world will finally move into a new multipolar reality

[Saint]

With your mouth, yes honey to drink. But it will ... flowed from mouth to mouth, but it didn’t get into my mouth ... Unfortunately.

[cniza]

2019 forecast year:

In general, all directions will be carried out, but in time and term this process will be very long.

[Petrels Vanguard Iskanderovich]

Those that are long, and not in 2019, I have designated them. But the civil war in the United States will be in 2019, as well as the collapse of Ukraine - in 2019

[cniza]

Let’s see, it’s not long to wait.

[voyaka uh]

"5. Russia in 2019 will replenish at least Alaska" /////
-----
This is if Russia and the United States unite. Then Russia will replenish
another 49 states besides Alaska.
There was such a song in Soviet times:
"Moscow, Kaluga, Los Angeles
Consolidated into one collective farm.
Rich collective farm - millionaire -
In the collective farm world gives an example.
Collective farm guard Ivan Kuzmich
In defense of peace, he sold Moskvich,
With this money I bought a trombone:
In collective farm jazz he plays "... etc.
Happy New Year!

[Petrels Vanguard Iskanderovich]

No, just the USA will fall apart, and Alaska will return home. But California is not sure that it will enter the Russian Federation

[voyaka uh]

Where does such pessimism come from? Of course it will! Google unite
with Yandex and there will be a search engine "Gugyand". SpaceX to unite with Roscosmos
and SpaceCosmos Corporation is formed .... So many possibilities.

[Tarhan]

No, just the USA will fall apart, and Alaska will return home. But California is not sure that it will enter the Russian Federation

You are not a true patriot cheer.
It is necessary to add Manchuria to Russia in 2019, because China will also break up.

[Petrels Vanguard Iskanderovich]

China no, very stable

[Tarhan]

China no, very stable

Well, if Alaska is home, then when is Manchuria?

[Petrels Vanguard Iskanderovich]

At least, very soon, and maybe never

[Tarhan]

At least, very soon, and maybe never

Hmm ...

Humor and satire are not about you. And yet, Manchuria was in fact Russian territory? And then, how about the blue dream of the Russian autocracy, how about Constantinople and the Bosphorus and Dardanelles?

[Petrels Vanguard Iskanderovich]

Unreal. Russia will annex territories only with ethnic groups close to the Russians (Belarus, Southeast Ukraine, a maximum of also the Center, Transnistria). Even the territories of the USSR with Kazakhstan, the Baltic states, Tajikistan, etc. will never be returned, not to mention more. But we will collect 200 million Russians and Slavs

[arhPavel]

Quote: evgen1221

The United States is non-negotiable, what prevents us from doing the same?

There is not one problem not to be solved if you move in the paradigm "I myself am, this is you and I am who."
The world consists not only of the USA and the Russian Federation, therefore, we cannot.
Because, he is the world, alone.

[askort154]

To date, in addition to Russia and the United States, the INF Treaty missiles have:
China, Israel, Iran (India, Pakistan, England ..?).
But they do not have the "Vanguard", "Poseidon", "Zircon", "Status".
Therefore, the United States needs to re-locate its "nuclear lionfish" in Europe, the Baltics, Turkey and Ukraine. And only the Germans understand what this is fraught with. The rest "grab" silently, give their ass, for supporting their "democracy".

[Tarhan]

Therefore, the United States needs to re-locate its "nuclear lionfish" in Europe, the Baltics, Turkey and Ukraine. And only the Germans understand what this is fraught with.

They will post in agreement with NATO
And about Germany. What is inadequate there, that if there are no NATO missiles in Germany, but in Poland, Belgium, Austria, then Germany, what will survive if the conflict starts?

Yes, even if Europe is not bombed, a full-fledged nuclear exchange between the Russian Federation and the United States will still destroy the globe. And the deployment of medium-range missiles in Europe increases the risk of a war. And the starting point of today's stress is the creation of the 9M729 missile.

[SETTGF]

Quote: Tarkhan

And the starting point of today's stress is the creation of the 9M729 missile.

Tarkhan (Temir)! It's ugly to lie and troll on the VO website, spitting on Russia! Expert?

[Tarhan]

Tarkhan (Temir)! It's ugly to lie and troll on the VO website, spitting on Russia! Expert?

You have nothing to do but follow me and write words about spitting. What did I lie? And you have a distorted concept about trolling. People somehow justify their disagreement with something. And you are not talking about the same thing.

[SETTGF]

Tarkhan (Temir)! About the 9M729 missile - a lie and the fact that it does not comply with the INF Treaty is a lie! Childish babble about disagreement - they don't trolling here, the same thing, just to spit on Russia: "Don't spit it like that!"

[SETTGF]

Quote: Tarkhan

People somehow justify their disagreement with something

Tarkhan (Temir)! You, with your phrase, showed your true face, the face of a disgruntled troll ...

[Tarhan]

About the 9M729 missile - a lie and the fact that it does not correspond to the INF Treaty is a lie!

Then why did the Kremlin not agree to a mutual inspection? Here she would show a rocket and she can’t fly in the middle distance. Business then. And there would be no way out.

And if the ground version 9M729 flies to the middle distance, then modify it according to the INF Treaty to sea or air navigation. Business then. And there would be no tension.

[SETTGF]

Tarkhan (Temir)!
"In December 2017, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova commented on the accusations of the American side that this missile does not comply with the rules of the INF Treaty. According to her, the 9M729 cruise missile was not developed or tested for the range prohibited under this agreement, its deployment is carried out in strict compliance with Russian and international obligations. "The missile system named by the Americans, namely the ground-based covered missile with the index 9M729, fully complies with the requirements of the treaty, it has not been developed or tested for the range prohibited under the treaty. Its deployment is carried out in strict accordance with our international obligations. ", - said Zakharova."

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Quote: Tarkhan

I disagree with the Kremlin’s policy on certain issues. That's all.

Tarkhan (Temir)! Are you not a Russian ?! Are you an ordinary troll ?!

[SETTGF]

Tarkhan (Temir)! No one is going to give out the secrets and characteristics of the 9M729 rocket, which corresponds to the INF Treaty, as they want - like you! Thanks to people like you, the Americans on the achievements of Russia during the time of E.B. Yeltsin created their F-35 aircraft, the X-51 hypersonic missile against Russia and not only!

[tralmaster.]

And I wish them a new year with new realities. Our "Vanguards", "Sarmatians" and "Peresveti".

[Lieutenant Senior]

The United States is considering retaliatory measures to "violation" of the INF Treaty by Russia

Yes, in America, just cowboys))
They themselves violate and blame the opposite side.
I admire their level of greed and arrogance

[Alexander X]

Our President warned that there would be a response to the termination of the contract ... Again, sanctions? I propose to the Americans as sanctions: 1. Put Chubais in an American prison ... for life; 2. To take away a team, a yacht and a wife from Abramovich ...; 3. Put deuces in all subjects in the semester to Zolotov’s grandson; 4. Drink mattresses all the wine and Borjomi from the Georgians, so that there was nothing for them to deliver to the Russian Federation, etc., etc.
Well, for us, in our defense doctrine of the Russian Federation, to prescribe that "If a NATO military base is placed on the territory of any country, installations that allow firing nuclear weapons at the territory of the Russian Federation, nuclear weapons are aimed at these countries in an automatic mode ... "well, clumsy, but something like that ....

[Evil echo]

Quote: Finches

I hate Anglo-Saxons !!!!!

Especially "zhentelmen".

[bone1]

"The US is considering retaliatory measures" - what are the measures? - well, issue "instructions on the behavior of citizens in the event of a nuclear attack" -type "lays down with its feet in the direction of the explosion, hiding valuable things under itself so as not to deteriorate"