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Berlin opposes US nuclear warheads in Europe

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In the event of the termination of the treaty on the elimination of medium-range and shorter-range missiles (ADRM), Germany will oppose the deployment in Europe of medium-range missiles equipped with nuclear warheads, German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said in an interview with dpa.


Berlin opposes US nuclear warheads in Europe


According to the minister, Europe should not become a platform for increasing armaments. In the event of a breach of the INF Treaty, the deployment of new medium-sized missiles in Europe will encounter greater resistance from Berlin, especially since Germany considers the wrong response to the current threats to the build-up of nuclear weapons. The policies of the Cold War and the arms race correspond to the 80 years of the 20 century and do not correspond to modernity, Maas added.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg also previously said that the alliance does not expect that in response to the breach of the INF Treaty, the US will deploy new medium-sized nuclear warhead missiles in Europe.

Earlier it was reported that the United States has already decided to withdraw from the INF range, hiding behind the accusation of violating the terms of the Russian treaty.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 26 December 2018 12: 23
    +6
    Of course Berlin is against, since immediately after the appearance of such systems in Germany, they will become the number one goal for our complexes such as Iskander. And who likes to live under the gun then?
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 12: 27
      +15
      Berlin is against, and Warsaw is for!)))
      Americans, no matter who will play the first role of the "sacrificial sheep"
      1. 210ox
        210ox 26 December 2018 12: 33
        +10
        Yes, in Europe there are garbage cans like Warsaw or Bucharest, well, the Baltic states .. Those with joy of a faithful pug will stand on their hind legs. You just need to warn that in case of a squabble from Russia, there will be something left.
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 12: 37
          +1
          Something tells me that Dale doesn’t care about half-empty Lithuania))
          ... well, if only, as a feed base ..
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 26 December 2018 12: 38
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          Yes, in Europe there are garbage cans like Warsaw or Bucharest, well, the Baltic states .. Those with joy of a faithful pug will stand on their hind legs. You just need to warn that in case of a squabble from Russia, there will be something left.

          After the first strike against us, our missile defense and air defense will absorb most of this salvo, and even when the first missiles rise in our direction, the answer will come from our side and probably nuclear. So there is not so much efficiency for the United States as they would like. Well, the politicians of the Baltic states, Poland and so on do not care about their peoples. They devils have long warmed a separate frying pan.
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 26 December 2018 13: 36
            -2
            "our missile defense and air defense will absorb most of this salvo"
            Can absorb, or maybe not absorb .. maybe for the most part, or maybe less ..
            Personally, you and I will have one rocket each ..

            "So there is not as much efficiency there for the US as they would like."
            Just for the United States, this will be excellent efficiency .. To destroy the "greater / smaller / significant / significant part" of Europe and Russia .. without losing a single person overseas .. Show me with your finger who in this case wins apart from the United States ..

            PS .. oh yes .. we win .. that the Baltic States and Poland will lose their people ..))
            1. dauria
              dauria 26 December 2018 14: 20
              +2
              Show me with your finger who in this case wins except the USA ..


              Yes, everything is clear to everyone. Only such placement will entail Russia's withdrawal from the strategic agreement. And then a new round, and the chances of beautifully surviving the United States, will decrease greatly. And who in this case will win, except for China? You will not lose this player from the accounts.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 26 December 2018 15: 04
              +2
              Quote: Roman070280
              Just for the United States, this will be excellent efficiency .. Destroy "a larger / smaller / significant / significant part" of Europe and Russia ..

              It was clearly said, in the event of a blow to us, we, knowing where our legs are growing from, will strike not only in Europe, but also in the USA. This was said clearly and very intelligibly.
              So the USA will lose EVERYTHING.
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 26 December 2018 15: 27
                0
                This was said far from clear ..
                "when the first missiles rise in our direction, the answer will leave from our side"
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 December 2018 15: 09
              -1
              With such a salvo for us, all our warheads, except those that will be on Iskander and ground cruise missiles, will fly not to Europe, but to the United States - since the launchers in Europe belong to the United States. And the United States, when leaving the INF Treaty, only loses - since those who have freed themselves from a strike on Europe due to the appearance of their own infantry infantry regiment, warheads on ICBMs in the full volume of 1700 units will now be redirected to the United States.
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 26 December 2018 15: 29
                0
                "freed from the strike on Europe", "will be re-targeted to the US territory"

                And everywhere it’s just a conversation about what Europeans say are fools, and when placing missiles in themselves, they put themselves under attack, because our missiles will be aimed at them ..))
        3. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 26 December 2018 14: 54
          0
          Nothing will be left of them.
          Yes, they are nothing.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 26 December 2018 12: 43
        +3
        Well this Warsaw climbed ... Between a rock and a hard place ..
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 12: 48
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Well this Warsaw climbed ... Between a rock and a hard place ..

          Poles LIKE it !! laughing
          Historically established "sexual inclinations"!))
      3. SSR
        SSR 26 December 2018 14: 11
        +2
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Berlin is against, and Warsaw is for!)))
        Americans, no matter:

        So besides this how to trace?
        Germany will oppose the deployment of medium-range missiles equipped with nuclear warheads in Europe

        And if they say that these are missiles without nuclear warheads? Will we take a word for that ?!
        From the missiles themselves, they are not against the type?
        Here it is, the nongliness is the second part of the Mlyn.
        Like oh, it’s not us, it’s secretly installed mattresses.
    2. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 26 December 2018 14: 53
      +2
      And here the interesting news came up:
      "The Strategic Missile Forces conducted a successful launch of Avangard in the presence of Putin: https://ria.ru/20181226/1548736740.html
  2. Communist for the truth
    Communist for the truth 26 December 2018 12: 27
    +10
    The Germans, French, Dutch are still friends with the head. I wonder who will be the first to apply for membership in the Suicide Club? I bet on Poland, men am
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 December 2018 12: 28
      +3
      Quote: Communist for Truth
      I bet on Poland, men

      Ukraine was forgotten with a base in Ochakovo.
      1. Communist for the truth
        Communist for the truth 26 December 2018 12: 29
        +8
        Ukraine at that time may no longer be ....
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 12: 39
          +1
          Since 2014, "it may not be" ... (
          1. Communist for the truth
            Communist for the truth 26 December 2018 13: 17
            +4
            In 2014, they had money stolen from RUSSIA, easy living with gas transit and reaping nationalism in ragged asses! Every year the economic stranglehold drags on, life for the common people is getting worse, military waste is decreasing, hatred and apathy are growing. No one can know what will happen to Ukraine in the 20s! Such processes do not occur quickly. hi
            1. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 13: 23
              0
              It is clear that these "crazy dances" cannot continue indefinitely!)) But we are talking about the placement of bases and the "X" hour ..
              While there, the ghouls are in power, there can be a lot of "business" done !!
              So where to find that "shovel" to "clean" behind them? !!
              1. Communist for the truth
                Communist for the truth 26 December 2018 13: 36
                +3
                Comrade, the deployment of missiles there will immediately provoke retaliation ACTION from our MO. Everyone knows about this: both the USA and Ukraine. This is a red line crossing, a pistol at the temple. It will strike at the type of Israeli raids on Syria, only much stronger. There is nothing to think about, and forecasts to build.

                What to do with Ukraine is another question. If there are still people who are able to benefit our SOVIET homeland, they must be incorporated along with the remnants of our industrial base. Westerners do not touch, let the Europeans milk. What will happen to them does not bother me at all.
                1. The Siberian barber
                  The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 14: 22
                  0
                  What you say is absolutely correct! But please pay attention to how the Americans crawl!) Poland, Romania, the Baltic states .. Yes, and Ukraine, too!
                  Even 10 years ago, the presence of bases in the Baltic states was unthinkable, despite their presence in NATO!
                  With Ukraine, even more unthinkable happened! And everywhere there was a "red line". Just remember!
                  I mean, it is necessary to consider ALL options for the development of events, and act proactively. And not just deny "because it cannot be", and then, feverishly act according to the situation.
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                    1. The Siberian barber
                      The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 14: 34
                      +1
                      Missile defense in Poland, not such a "missile defense" ...
                      Stick in "slightly different" rockets, no problem
                      1. Communist for the truth
                        Communist for the truth 26 December 2018 14: 46
                        +3
                        If so - they are worse. More guests will arrive in a striped hut. For our air defense, built on the achievements of SOVIET science, it is not a problem to protect our mines and launchers from American junk.
                      2. The Siberian barber
                        The Siberian barber 26 December 2018 14: 53
                        0
                        In such situations, no one will be "better"! Maybe just "more is worse" or "less is worse"
                        Another question is that it is necessary to try to create such conditions so that thoughts do not arise about something like that. But this is for the "giraffe", he knows better (c)
                        And about "old stuff" ... We have, from ancient times, the custom: to throw the enemy "icons", "hats".
                        Sometimes, the results were deplorable, alas ..
    2. Hypersound
      Hypersound 26 December 2018 12: 39
      0
      Psheks and Balts will compete, sputtering, for the right to be destroyed first
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 December 2018 13: 49
      +2
      Quote: Communist for the truth
      The Germans, French, Dutch are still friends with the head. I wonder who will be the first to apply for membership in the Suicide Club? I bet on Poland, men am

      Macron, after announcing the creation of his own European army, received a hint from Washington in the form of a bale of yellow vests. Now the Germans after their "non-hatimrocket" mattresses will arrange a similar movement with the little hands of migrants for the New Year. The Dutch seem to be prudently silent so far. So the main candidates for the suicide club are Poles and Balts.
  3. Harry.km
    Harry.km 26 December 2018 12: 28
    +2
    When it comes to your own ass, adequacy begins to bounce back.
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      1. Harry.km
        Harry.km 26 December 2018 13: 28
        0
        Quote: Hypersound
        Not in the case of exhausted Psheks, Balts and ycpa

        And in the article, it seems, not a word about Poland, the Baltic countries and Ukraine ... Even the title says "Berlin" or is the main thing for you to add Ukraine to any news?
  4. DenZ
    DenZ 26 December 2018 12: 30
    +5
    Yes, on the side of the Americans such statements. German protests are only temporary difficulties for them and have a question price. Even if not in Germany, in other European countries it will be a pleasure to bend over. For the first time, what?
    1. Hypersound
      Hypersound 26 December 2018 12: 41
      -4
      Not temporary. Sunset pndostana will be final and permanent. Germany, France, and most of adequate Europe in horror flee from Uncle Sam
      1. Harry.km
        Harry.km 26 December 2018 13: 38
        0
        Quote: Hypersound
        Sunset pndostana will be final and permanent. Germany, France, and most of adequate Europe in horror flee from Uncle Sam

        Dear, how about, haloperidolchik ... courses. Or a coal activated instead of mushrooms then ... Eka carries you ... Who is running to where? Where is the horror? Permanently and definitively, how is it? You, my friend, are more careful with substances. And then the consciousness can expand so that the orderlies will have to try on a shirt))
  5. 1536
    1536 26 December 2018 12: 31
    +2
    For some reason, it is thought that the United States has no illusions about the Germans and their state, unlike Russia. We all think that Germans, if not our gentle friends, then partners for sure. As a result, they will soon sit on our heads, or act as they do now with Ukraine and Ukrainians. Therefore, the United States pursues a correct policy towards the Germans, not trusting them, considering it an occupied country, so that fascism and Nazism would not again come from German soil. We once did not understand this, withdrew our group of troops from Germany, believed the Germans, now we are reaping the fruits of our carelessness and naivety.
    1. Hypersound
      Hypersound 26 December 2018 12: 44
      0
      Quote: 1536
      We all think that Germans, if not our gentle friends, then partners for sure.

      And there is. In a few years, with the final fall of NATO and the pndostan, Germany (and most of Europe) will be good partners of Russia. No less than China. And most importantly, we will not have a slave-master relationship with them, we will have mutually respectful and equal relations. That will allow us to cooperate for a long time, fruitfully and sincerely, and not because of the presence of a bunch of military occupation bases on our territory (as is now the case with Pndosia and the FRG)
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 26 December 2018 12: 45
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      Once we didn’t understand this, we removed our group of troops from Germany,

      This is not "We" did not understand, but a very specific person - MS. Gorbachev did not understand. which, by the way, lives in the same Germany now. And in general, apart from the withdrawal of troops from Germany, he did not understand and still does not understand a lot. And "We" ... I was 10 years old, in short, when the marked one came.
      1. 1536
        1536 26 December 2018 13: 23
        +2
        No, dear, it is "we". I was already 30 then. And “we” did not oppose the “withdrawal” of the GSVG from Germany, dutifully followed the fools, outright bribe-takers and traitors in power. Then, for this, conditions were cleverly created when the bulk of the population of Russia was not up to it. Before the New Year, it will be necessary to raise a toast to ensure that such damned conditions never arise in our country again!
    3. askort154
      askort154 26 December 2018 12: 51
      +2
      1536 ... Therefore, the United States pursues a correct policy towards the Germans, not trusting them, considering it an occupied country, so that fascism and Nazism would not come back from German soil.

      The United States has long turned a blind eye to "fascism", and in some places even supports it.
      In early December, Russia raised the question of the degeneration of fascism at the UN. Only two countries voted against - the USA and Ukraine. yes
      1. 1536
        1536 26 December 2018 13: 15
        +1
        That's right, in a stranger's eye they are ready to consider a mote, but in their - they do not see logs. Therefore, the United States is not going to compete again with the Germans for world domination. It is naive to believe that in modern conditions, someone will go to fair competition, and even to the detriment of themselves. However, I’m wrong ... I know such a country.
    4. Simon
      Simon 26 December 2018 13: 35
      0
      For that, under the influence of the Americans, fascism is developing in Ukraine!
  6. Sayan
    Sayan 26 December 2018 12: 33
    +6
    Something tells me that the mattresses will not listen to them
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 26 December 2018 12: 35
    +2
    In gayrope, the “greens” are already a force, and they really target the governments of some countries! Previously, this movement was sharply against everything vigorous, especially on its territory.
    It’s difficult to predict how it will go now, but it can be a serious factor against it!
    We'll see.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 26 December 2018 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      In gayrope, the "greens" are already a force, which also target the governments of some countries

      Well, if you are talking about those greens who transfer the greens to the bank account for the decisions you need, I think there are a lot of them in the governments of Western countries. The rest of the greens are unlikely to be a serious factor. But let's see!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 December 2018 13: 34
        0
        Quote: DenZ
        The rest of the greens are unlikely to be a serious factor. But let's see!

        I interpret the statements of foreign politicians. I do not take their opinion absolutely on faith, but there is a rational grain in that. People there still want to live, live peacefully!
        Events are developing, we will all see, hear, if we do not limit ourselves to the sources of information !!!
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 26 December 2018 12: 50
      +1
      Victor soldier
      Quote: rocket757
      We'll see.

      That's it . It’s now that Maas is singing wonderfully that Germany is against, only it has long been repeatedly suggested that there are already nuclear weapons at bases in Europe.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 December 2018 13: 30
        +1
        Hello pash soldier
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        At the bases in Europe, nuclear weapons are already there

        There is vigorous on the striped bases, it is known. As a fact, it is recognized that there are tactical special ammunition, bombs that German planes can carry. But so for a long time and did not cause much tension. But when the Pershing began to bring, the wave of protests was real! V.h. and therefore they could agree and put them away.
        Aviation, this is a relatively slow option, air defense can prevent such an attack effectively! Missiles, this is a killer option! It’s quick, difficult to intercept, and with a mass strike, nobody can intercept everything!
        Something like this. Therefore, they raise the butch in advance!
  8. Hypersound
    Hypersound 26 December 2018 12: 35
    +2
    In Germany, of course, there will be no nuclear missiles. The Germans - well done, slowly dumping pndosy. But here is some wretched Poland, or the Baltic states - will gladly make themselves Russia's No. 1 target, they will also grunt with pleasure
  9. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 December 2018 12: 36
    +3
    Unfortunately in the EU there is no agreement on this. US minions: Poland, Romania, the Baltic states will give the go-ahead for the deployment of missiles. Ukraine is sleeping and sees US bases on its territory. Not everything is so simple.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2018 15: 13
      -2
      Let it be deployed, Russia will simply translate anti-aircraft missile defense systems closer to the border - and all these missiles can be shot down, even at the start.
  10. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 26 December 2018 12: 36
    0
    Why will they be asked?
    1. Simon
      Simon 26 December 2018 13: 27
      0
      Of course they will not ask, but the main thing is "Baba Yaga is against". laughing wink
  11. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 26 December 2018 12: 36
    +2
    Means will place with chemical warheads.
  12. Hypersound
    Hypersound 26 December 2018 12: 38
    -1
    Actually, to replace the INF Treaty, a new agreement is needed between Russia and the Pndostan on the non-deployment of the INF Treaty in Europe
    1. Simon
      Simon 26 December 2018 13: 24
      +2
      Interesting! And before, Ukraine also entered Russia, along with Belarus. what
      1. Hypersound
        Hypersound 26 December 2018 15: 03
        -1
        Belarus will enter no later than 2024, most of Ukraine too, but I don’t know when. And besides Galicia, of course
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 26 December 2018 12: 41
    +3
    Old songs ... We are protesting ... Yes, they won’t even listen to you ... They will threaten us with sanctions or come up with something else .. the buttons and fold ... We weren’t guilty ...
  14. Mouse
    Mouse 26 December 2018 12: 44
    +1
    You might think someone will ask them ... That's when the Shtatovs are expelled from their territory, then these statements can mean something, but now these are just words ... words ...
  15. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 26 December 2018 12: 45
    0
    Offtop is small.
    It turns out that the United States is the world leader in cranberry consumption. In second place is Canada.
    Pretty ironic.
  16. Guru
    Guru 26 December 2018 12: 48
    +2
    The Germans, in principle, against everything that is atomic.
    1. asar
      asar 26 December 2018 13: 36
      0
      And who will ask them, they want, they do not want ?!
      "Daisy" for them will be pulled by the Big Friend!
  17. Goha
    Goha 26 December 2018 12: 58
    0
    We will see. But something tells me that the United States is in a deep anu ....
  18. stalki
    stalki 26 December 2018 13: 02
    +2
    The Germans are mostly prudent, but how is the rest of Europe? Judging by the hubbub and squeal of many countries, there is little reason there.
  19. Conductor
    Conductor 26 December 2018 13: 02
    +1
    Right before NG, a swarm of statements in our favor
  20. BAI
    BAI 26 December 2018 13: 15
    0
    said Foreign Minister of Germany Heiko Maas

    This minister has not been charged with rape for a long time? there already, probably, the line was lined with memories of 20 years ago.
  21. Simon
    Simon 26 December 2018 13: 18
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Of course Berlin is against, since immediately after the appearance of such systems in Germany, they will become the number one goal for our complexes such as Iskander. And who likes to live under the gun then?

    Of course, in this case, Germany will simply disappear from the face of the Earth. They understand this well and do it right. wink
  22. olegstaz
    olegstaz 26 December 2018 13: 23
    +2
    the elegant logic of the NATO Secretary General: "the alliance does not expect that in response to the breakdown of the INF Treaty (from the side) the United States (they, the United States) will deploy new medium-sized missiles with nuclear warheads in Europe." That is, the United States, in response to its own actions, will respond, the logic of a complete moron.
  23. asar
    asar 26 December 2018 13: 34
    0
    "According to" Bild "Foreign Minister of Germany Heiko Maas has resigned"
    Soon we will hear it, isn't it ?!
  24. Andrea
    Andrea 26 December 2018 13: 39
    0
    Yes, even without warheads at all, we won’t guess, the answer will be complete.
  25. NordUral
    NordUral 26 December 2018 13: 40
    0
    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg previously also said that the alliance does not expect that in response to the termination of the INF Treaty The United States will deploy new medium-sized nuclear warheads in Europe.
    Interestingly, the answer is.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 26 December 2018 14: 25
      +2
      At one time, Adolf also "saved Europe from the specter of communism", Europe did not even resist but enjoyed it. Has something changed after 80 years? Nothing. All the same rake, even the clichés of information warfare are the same.
  26. GSVG 86-88
    GSVG 86-88 26 December 2018 14: 12
    0
    "Germany is against". Who will ask Germany while the occupation troops are on its territory.
  27. Lieutenant Senior
    Lieutenant Senior 26 December 2018 17: 25
    0
    Come on, who will be asking Germany there. It will be necessary to deliver, no matter how bitter and insulting it is. Otherwise, the Maidan will be muddied, vests in France, and in Germany, for example, striped shorts))
  28. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 26 December 2018 17: 33
    0
    Europe puts an end to its coexistence in the event of small military operations towards Russia by the United States and their rebels or their puppets both in the Baltic countries and Poland, not to mention the rest, since the theater of war will mostly occur on their territory!
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 26 December 2018 19: 42
    0
    Americans sold Merkel, and what will not sell the next chancellor? Germany is almost occupied, nothing is solved there without the Americans
  30. AlexS
    AlexS 26 December 2018 19: 48
    0
    The Americans will not even ask their opinion ...
  31. watchmaker
    watchmaker 26 December 2018 21: 36
    0
    Japan is also "acting" so what? The fact of the matter is that these are "PERFORMANCES" of the choirs of Europe, nothing more. Someone must start and die first! In the opinion of the Americans, it is definitely not them. The striped ones will watch from the side and try to finish off Russia if the late Europeans manage to weaken it with the first blow.
  32. razved
    razved 26 December 2018 22: 31
    0
    ... Germany will oppose the deployment of medium-range missiles equipped with nuclear warheads in Europe, said German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas ...

    And against shorter-range missiles? And missiles not equipped with nuclear warheads? Can they be placed? And in general, will anyone listen to Germany ... it is still occupied by the so-called allies at one point ... There are enough other people willing to host overseas missiles: the "Young Europeans" led by Poland.
  33. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 28 December 2018 01: 39
    0
    nya maybe! Voooo give .......... the Germans wassat