How Stalin saved Russia

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There is a mythical expression about Stalin: "I took Russia with a plow, and left it with an atomic bomb." The very fact of this assertion is evident. This is a reality that most of today's younger generations are no longer aware of.





Indeed, after the First World War, the Civil War (distemper) and intervention, Russia literally survived by a miracle. The country was completely bled (millions of dead, wounded and refugees), collapsed, plundered (Russia was literally sucked dry), industry and transport were greatly degraded, existing only as a memory of the Russian industrialization of the late XIX - early XX (the first "Russian miracle"). Not a single large plant, not a single large power plant has been built, not a single transport project has been implemented. There were no funds and gold: the gold reserves of the Russian Empire were partially spent by the tsarist government, partially plundered by whites, foreigners and taken out by the Leninist "guard". Huge capitals, finances, valuables (gold, silver, precious stones, works of art, etc.) were taken out by the fleeing aristocracy, the big bourgeoisie, marauders who plundered the country during the fratricidal war.

Agriculture, which even in tsarist Russia did not shine with advanced agricultural technologies, was thrown back hundreds of years ago. Instead of tractors and various mechanisms, horses were used or people themselves worked. Agriculture after the defeat of large commodity farms, estates, which gave the bulk of the grain for sale, degraded, its marketability decreased in comparison with the Russian Empire. The village returned to subsistence farming, most of the peasant farms worked only for self-sufficiency. The city could not provide the village with the industrial goods it needed. The confrontation along the city-village line has matured. At the same time, social stratification remained in the village itself, the New Economic Policy (NEP) strengthened the position of prosperous households - kulaks. The village still lived in poverty, starving. Famine of 1921-1922 covered 35 provinces with a population of 90 million, killed hundreds of thousands of people, millions of children lost their parents and became homeless. It was the poor, poor peasants who suffered the most. As a result, the village was on the verge of a second peasant war. The first peasant war, which began immediately after the February Revolution, was a terrible and bloody tragedy that claimed millions of lives. She was suppressed with great difficulty. Now the village was ready to explode again.

The economic mechanism of Russia in the 1920s, a mixture of weak administrative planning and a speculative market, could not ensure not only a breakthrough, but also normal development. There was a merging of the rapidly growing Soviet bureaucracy and speculators, the criminal world, which experienced its heyday on the ruins of the empire. There was no hope for outside investment. Soviet Russia was in international isolation. At the same time, foreigners were happy to create a semi-colonial economic model in Russia, to gain control over existing enterprises, mines, and mineral deposits.

Weak, degraded industry could not provide the countryside with consumer goods in the required quantity, tractors and other equipment. There was no engine building in the country, aviation industry, mass automotive, electrical engineering, shipbuilding fell into decline, etc. Without a developed mechanical engineering, in the industrial era, Russia was waiting for death. Science and industry could not give the army a modern weapon, technique. There were only outdated cars in the army parks, Tanks and aircraft from the First World War. And yes, there were very few of them. Agriculture could not feed a large army, create strategic reserves in case of war, to supply troops and cities. As a result, Soviet Russia was doomed to a military catastrophe in the event of a new big war. It could be defeated not only by such advanced powers as Germany, Britain or Japan, but also by Poland and Finland. And a new big war was not far off. A little more and Western armies (and in the East - Japan) with mechanized divisions and air fleets, armed with masses of modern tanks, aircraft, guns, would simply crush Russia that remained in the past. new industrial, the capitalist world would simply eat the USSRhow once the Western colonialists swept away the once mighty and numerous peoples and tribes of America and conquered the ancient and rich, but technically backward India.

At this time, the Western powers and Japan were developing rapidly. The industrial age has dawned. At the Ford factories, the conveyor was launched. The automotive industry, engine building, aircraft building, shipbuilding, chemical industry, instrument making and electronics industry, metallurgy, etc. experienced rapid development. Rapid electrification of industry was going on in the world. And Russia stagnated, it now lagged behind not only the world leaders, like the Russian Empire in 1913, but also the second-tier powers. The backlog became monstrous, it was a death sentence for Russia-USSR. As Stalin honestly admitted: “We are 50-100 years behind…” And it was necessary to make literally a miracle, a qualitative breakthrough into the future, in order to save Russia and the people.

Another hardest problem for Soviet Russia was mental catastrophe, cultural-psychological, moral collapse of "old Russia". The people were suppressed, literally crushed by the catastrophe of 1914-1920. There was destruction, disintegration, death of the former Russia, the Russia of the Romanovs, the old society. Millions of people died in world and civil wars, during the peasant war and the criminal revolution, from hunger and disease. Millions of people fled abroad. The Russian Empire died in cruel agony. Russia paid a terrible price for the deadlocks of its development caused by the Romanovs' project, for the tragic discord between the civilizational code-matrix and real life, for the betrayal of the pro-Western "elite", which abandoned the civilizational, historical missions of Russian civilization and Russian superethnos.

Rus'-Russia was drained of blood, the morality and mental structure of the Russian people, a state-forming people, bearing the main burdens of creating and maintaining an empire, broke down. Russia withstood the catastrophe of 1917, the transition from the old world to the new - the USSR. The socialist revolution promised great people the meaning of their existence. However, Soviet Russia in the 1920s was miserable. Instead of a happy, creative and new world full of possibilities, people again saw a hard, hungry and unfair everyday life. Hopes were fading. There was no future for such Russia. Thus, the people were able to leave the unjust old world, but did not see a happy and just new world.

And at this time, when Russia again faced the threat of complete destruction, the Soviet elite was feverishly looking for a way out. There were three possible scenarios. The first is a return to the foundations of the old world: bourgeois-capitalist, liberal-democratic. Recognize that the future of mankind is the Western matrix of development (in fact, this is the White project, the Februaryists-Westerners who killed the Russian Empire, the autocracy). That is, red Moscow could bargain for honorable terms of surrender, establishing a pseudo-communist (Marxist) regime in the country, suppressing any discontent of the people with force and terror. The party elite would quickly regenerate, become a colonial administration, the administrative apparatus of the masters of the West.

The second is to try to hide from the old world, to create an "iron curtain", and behind it to accumulate strength, build your own world. However, in fact, this path eventually led to the first - the degeneration, decay of the Soviet, party elite. In addition, having become isolated, without advanced Western technologies, achievements of science and technology, the Soviet Union of the 1920s would quickly become a victim of a new "crusade" of the West to the East. Thus, both scenarios led to disaster, it was only postponed to the future.

The third scenario was proposed by Joseph Stalin - the red emperor. He managed to literally raise a lost civilization from the ashes with a superhuman effort, give it a new impetus for development, create a new reality, civilization and society of the future. To create a super-civilization of the future, which in the future buried the Western project of enslaving the planet and gave humanity the opportunity to live humanly, happily and with dignity.

First of all, Stalin was able to give people an image of the future - a brilliant, beautiful (especially for young people), the world of the future. A society of knowledge, service and creation, where knowledge, work and creation (creativity) will become the main ones. Society for social justice and the rule of ethics of conscience. It was a real alternative to Western society - a society of slave owners and slaves. Soviet Russia began to create a world of creation, social justice, a world where there is no exploitation, no social parasites. A world where due to labor, creativity, disclosure of the intellectual and spiritual abilities of a person and service to society, an immeasurably higher level of development of society and the individual will be achieved than in the old world.

It was a breakthrough into the future. For the first time on the planet, a new world-civilization, a society of the future, was being created. The masters of the West (the current global mafia) are building a global slave civilization, based on the ancient slave civilizations of the Ancient East. Rome and Greece. This is a caste, slave-owning society with the division of society into "chosen ones" - masters and "two-legged tools". The Soviet Union proposed a different world based on justice, truth and the ethics of conscience. A super-civilization and a society where the spiritual is higher than the material (“golden calf”), the general is higher than the private, justice is higher than the law. Where human desires will be reasonable, and collective interests will outweigh bestial selfishness. A world where people realize that for a happy future, today they must endure hardships, work and, if necessary, fight, give their lives for great ideals.

Thus, Stalin and his associates embodied in life the ideals of the Russian civilizational code-matrix, Light (Holy) Rus'. They tried to create a new reality where justice, truth, kindness and honest work would prevail. And you can not say that they did not succeed. A lot has happened, but not all. The old reality resisted, did not want to go into the past. In particular, the masters of the West organized the Second World War in order to destroy Russia-USSR. Due to the chronic lack of time, the most radical, harsh methods had to be applied. Psychologically, a significant part of society, especially the elite, was not ready for the new reality, it was drawn to the past. And the new generations, who believed in a bright future with their minds and souls, were greatly bled white by the Great War. Hence the rollback during the reign of Khrushchev and Brezhnev.

As a result, at the beginning Stalin had nothing but a dream, an image of the future. However, this image coincided with the civilizational code of Rus'. The revolution of 1917 created the possibility of creating a new reality, the world, and the red emperor used it. In order for the country and the people to survive, for the Russian civilization to be preserved, Stalin began to translate the civilizational matrix into a national development project, in materialization of the Light Rus' project. The new Soviet (Russian) civilization, the world-society of the future were to become the basis of all human civilization, determining its development for hundreds of years to come. It was a challenge to the global mafia, the "masons" who were building the "new world order" - a slave-owning civilization. The last emperor of Great Russia (USSR) did the literally impossible!
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  1. +9
    26 December 2018 15: 09
    "Olgovich" would be nice to read. So that he would not ask stupid questions.
    1. +25
      26 December 2018 15: 14
      If it were not for the "red emperor" we would have been rolled out long ago, nuclear weapons only sober up violent heads
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        1. +7
          26 December 2018 16: 13
          It is with a revolver, because there is someone to shoot!
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            1. +27
              26 December 2018 22: 51
              This is how the Bolsheviks ruined the country? Two five-year plans were enough for them to raise the country. And the first and second time. And there were sanctions and the global crisis. In the 90s, we were promised the rise of Russia with 20 years of a quiet life. Quiet life was more than 20 years. Honduras didn't bother us. Where is the Zin exhaust?
              1. -21
                26 December 2018 22: 57
                In the mid-thirties, we only reached the pre-war level (1914) in terms of industrial production. In terms of the level of development of agriculture, we reached the pre-war level only under the late Khrushchev, and then by extensive methods thanks to the plowing of virgin lands. For 50 years under Soviet rule, the population lived WORSE than under the tsar. Because people do not care how much iron and steel is smelted in the country, they want to eat.
                1. rx.
                  -23
                  26 December 2018 23: 03
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  In the mid-thirties, we only reached the pre-war level (1914) in terms of industrial production.

                  It actually happened in the 60s.
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  For 50 years under Soviet rule, the population lived WORSE than under the tsar. Because people do not care how much iron and steel is smelted in the country, they want to eat.

                  Absolutely.
                  Moreover, this steel and pig iron were spent in such a way that any industrialized country for the same purposes would need half as much iron and steel.
                2. +19
                  27 December 2018 00: 52
                  If people lived so badly under Stalin, why were there so many volunteers during the war? Why did they buy tanks and planes with their own money? Even the church bought a tank column "Dmitry Donskoy"! Why don't well-living citizens buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry today?
                  1. +5
                    27 December 2018 06: 44
                    Why don't well-living citizens buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry today?

                    Great question. A thought came to my mind a long time ago. Seditious, of course.
                    Take Alla Borisovna Pugacheva (well, or any famous singer, etc.). I understand that counting other people's money is vile and disgusting.
                    But. On the other side. Her income is the annual maintenance of some division (airborne, tank, motorized rifle, or whatever it is right), a destroyer, etc.
                    Why does she need so much money? They are extra for her.
                    1. +2
                      29 December 2018 17: 36
                      Quote: Tashkent
                      Take Alla Borisovna Pugacheva

                      Why immediately AllBorisovna? There are Siluanovs and Nabiulins, governors, mayors and all sorts of different heads and top managers
                  2. -3
                    27 December 2018 09: 38
                    Quote: Mister Creed
                    Why don't well-living citizens buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry today?

                    Well-living citizens are buying right now - in the form of tax deductions. And in Stalin's times, the collective farmers had almost no money - they were paid mainly with "sticks". Who did not understand - they charged workdays, then they gave out agricultural products.
                    1. 0
                      27 December 2018 17: 38
                      Quote: Vladimirsky
                      Well-living citizens are buying right now - in the form of tax deductions.

                      Nuda, with a flat tax slag, they also receive tax deductions, unlike ordinary citizens.
                  3. -4
                    27 December 2018 10: 15
                    Quote: Mister Creed
                    If the people lived so badly under Stalin, why were there so many volunteers during the war?

                    We stood up for the HOMELAND. As well as ALL thousand years before.
                    NO ONE stood up for power in 91,
                    Quote: Mister Creed
                    Why don't well-living citizens buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry today?

                    What is war today? belay

                    Regarding the "salvation" of Russia (where, by the way, did he talk about saving Russia specifically? belay ) only FACTS:

                    Under Stalin formed today's borders of Russia in the 17th century: during his reign from the RSFSR-Russia 4 million km2 were cut off (moreover, purely Russian lands already AFTER the formation of the USSR) and several republic-states were created (see the Stalinist constitution) - admire them on today's world map.

                    It was he who turned on Russian Donbass in the so-called. Ukraine, with him , already AFTER the formation of the USSR , Belarus has grown ... doubled- at the expense of the Smolensk land, which was the last one just liberated in 1940 Russian turned the province of Bessarabia into the MSSR.

                    The lands conquered by the Russian soldier were endowed with the worst enemy of Russia-Poland, but, like the occupiers of the Second World War, they were restored at the expense of .... the country devastated by them and forgiving them .... reparations. ALL of them today are enemies of Russia, like a single powerful Germany, whose unity he fiercely defended instead of a bunch of small Austrians.

                    Famines unprecedented in the world of 33,48 years, a demographic catastrophe of the 1930s, the execution of several hundred thousand during one PEACE year 37-38, the level of 1913 in terms of food, clothing, housing, "achieved" already ... after 40 years, ruined, running to the city, village, no elections, no newspapers, no parties, nothing .....

                    As Stalin honestly admitted: “We are 50-100 years behind…”

                    In the same speech, he also honestly admitted:

                    "In the past we there was not and could not be a Fatherland".

                    What the Pozharskys, Kutuzovs, Nevskys, millions of Ivanovs, Petrovs fought for is not clear, where he was born, grew up, it is not clear.

                    Ibid:
                    The history of old Russia was that it was continuously beaten. Beat the Mongol khans. Turkish beks beat. Beat the Swedish feudal lords. They beat the Polish-Lithuanian pans. The Anglo-French capitalists fought.

                    Someone was "beaten" "beaten", and the country -the largest in the world- it was they who built it, "beaten". And the people with them doubled every 50 years.

                    And after the "salvation" - depopulation since 1964 and the borders of the 17th century ....
                    1. -1
                      29 December 2018 19: 25
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      the execution of several hundred thousand during one PEACE year 37-38,

                      Debatable. The highest ranks of the total number of those shot were Jews. The bulk. The rest, for the most part, sympathized with Trotsky's ideas.
                      Andrew - you must knowthat the main losses of the Russian people were in the 20s, and not in the 30s. That is, under Lenin and his "guard", and not under Stalin. Which in the thirties and shot. Why insinuate? belay
                      1. -1
                        31 December 2018 01: 05
                        Lenin in 1922 was already a seriously ill person, Trotsky was in opposition since 1923, Bukharin was an opponent of collectivization and extreme measures against the peasants - who do you blame for the extermination of the Russian people?
                    2. 0
                      6 January 2019 10: 34
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Under Stalin, today's borders of Russia in the 17th century were formed
                      Stalin was a patriot of the USSR, he could not prepare the country for the collapse of 91 years.
                  4. +3
                    27 December 2018 11: 31
                    Have you heard of such a thing as "Motherland"? So people went to protect her. Even Denikin and his comrades were ready to return to the USSR and go to the front, of course, with security guarantees. And Stalin considered such a scenario, but got scared.
                    And now, God forbid, if something happens, they will go as volunteers and, believe me, not for the sake of great love for Putin.
                    1. -1
                      29 December 2018 17: 43
                      Quote: Nick_R
                      they will go as volunteers and, believe me, not for the sake of great love for Putin.

                      weapons in the hands of the people will mean the end of the current elite, by analogy with the 1st World War. Therefore, in the interests of maintaining the current situation, it is necessary to prevent war.
                3. +7
                  27 December 2018 08: 53
                  You might think that under the tsar, people ate caviar with spoons. Read Gorky's novel "Mother", how the workers lived at that time.
                  1. -5
                    27 December 2018 11: 33
                    The bitter court sycophant of Stalin, as a writer, he is, to put it mildly, so-so, he was kept for the sake of origin.
                    1. 0
                      27 December 2018 13: 42
                      Stalin's bitter court sycophant,
                      so read Gilyarovsky, he doesn’t fall into your qualification.
                    2. +4
                      28 December 2018 11: 45
                      Quote: Nick_R
                      Stalin's bitter court sycophant,

                      It's hard to come up with a more idiotic maxim! His play "At the Bottom" was staged all over the world at a time when Stalin was still a modest underground worker. And those who have not read The Life of Klim Samgin will not be able to understand the processes that led to the revolution. Your kick in the direction of the great writer is no smarter than barking Shavka. Alas.
                  2. +1
                    29 December 2018 19: 35
                    Quote: kuz363
                    Read Gorky's novel "Mother", how the workers lived at that time.

                    You need to read the statistics. How much the workers and peasants received in the provinces, and compare the salary with the level of food prices. And believe me, the salary of a worker at the Putilov factory (the record holder for the number of strikes) made it possible to eat better than now. It is a fact. hi
                4. +5
                  27 December 2018 10: 30
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  For 50 years under Soviet rule, the population lived WORSE than under the tsar

                  Cool. Where are the firewood from?
            2. +8
              26 December 2018 23: 01
              The war in Ukraine is the result of communist rule!? Is it from the 91st that the communists rule? Are the communists pitting people? Is division into estates unity or pitting? And who created the parade of sovereignties? Where are the Russians today? Is there Rus' today?
            3. +3
              27 December 2018 06: 37
              We. all living witnesses .. the results of the activities of the Stateman and the Patriot ... from the plow to the rocket .. this is a fact ... and the results of the work of the St. Petersburg lads ... are also evident ...! Just the facts gentlemen ... and nothing more ... everything else is emotions and verbiage
        2. -46
          26 December 2018 16: 52

          Agriculture, which in Tsarist Russia did not shine with advanced agricultural technologies, was thrown back hundreds of years ago.

          Well, of course, for at least 500 years. How else to explain that under the brilliant Stalin, Russia, once the world's largest grain exporter, suddenly began to massively starve to cannibalism and millions of deaths, and the rest of the time lived from hand to mouth. Here, of course, some irresponsible people like me will tell how, during the famine in the Volga region, echelons with grain left for Germany at the expense of repatriations, or rather, the debt of the Bolsheviks to the Germans for the power they received. How the same echelons with grain went to Europe in 1932-1934 for the sake of foreign exchange earnings. And not all the money went to the purchase of equipment. A lot of currency was spent on the maintenance of the Cominterns, the purchase of personal consumption goods. All this was paid literally with the lives of our peasants.
          Stalin was replaced by slightly less brilliant Khrushchev, Brezhnev and others. But bad luck, the situation with agriculture continued to get worse. And if anyone does not remember, let me remind you that perestroika did not arise from the great desire of the communist nomenklatura to give freedom to people, but from the fact that the sharply fallen uyen for oil did not allow the import of grain from America in the same volumes and the Politburo was corny afraid of hunger riots.
          Why, then, in the USSR, where there was the highest consumption of mineral fertilizers in the world, the largest number of tractors, combines and other equipment, we could not feed ourselves? Say the climate is not the same? So today's Russia has again become the largest exporter of wheat, despite the fact that we require fertilizers and use technology several times less than under the USSR. It's just a matter of MOTIVATION. In the fact that these feudal remnants of the collective farms were finally dispersed, into which Stalin "brilliantly" drove the peasants under machine guns.
          Well, save the tales about the genius of the ghoul Stalin for the wife, if they turn her on.
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          2. +13
            26 December 2018 23: 19
            Only the largest grain exporter sold low-grade and weed grain. And when they said that "We won't finish it, but we will sell the grain?" It was under the king! The people were starving, and bread was sold to foreigners! This is how the Germans gave the Bolsheviks power in Russia? And what good is that the country today began to sell a lot of grain? Forage grain. We give them grain, they give us meat. Why can't you raise your own cattle? Yes, and grain seeds are talking about GMOs. At that time, the GDR contributed the most fertilizers. What makes you think that everything is growing with us? Each culture has its own area of ​​cultivation. We purchased varieties of durum wheat. Why do we buy bananas and oranges today? If collective farms are a relic, then why create agricultural holdings? This is not a small business!
            1. -2
              27 December 2018 11: 43
              Forage grain.

              You would not write about what you do not understand. The lion's share of the wheat exported now is the most food. Because it is not profitable to carry low-quality wheat, taking into account transportation costs.
              Well, I’ll tell you a little secret, almost nowhere in the world wheat is divided into fodder and food. What is important is the protein content or, as we say, gluten. And the index of gluten deformation, according to which we attributed wheat to fodder, now does not matter, it is "treated" with special additives
          3. +12
            26 December 2018 23: 36
            Quote: Nick_R
            So today's Russia has again become the largest exporter of wheat, despite the fact that we require fertilizers and use technology several times less than under the USSR.

            I have long been interested in the question - why did potatoes turn black in the light under the USSR, and now they turn red in the light.
            Bread under the USSR in the 70s is a pleasure, bread in modern Russia is poison.
            1. +6
              26 December 2018 23: 46
              Quote: naidas
              and now the light turns red.

              It's a GMO potato. It's the same with apples.
              1. +9
                26 December 2018 23: 55
                It's the same with all store-bought products.
                Somewhere on the Internet they wrote that products like in the USSR cannot afford us with our modern salaries.
              2. -6
                27 December 2018 10: 24
                Don’t talk nonsense! Now, if you don’t know, then don’t blurt out, we don’t have GMO potatoes in our country, well, not at all
                1. +5
                  27 December 2018 10: 41
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  Now, if you don’t know, then don’t blurt out, we don’t have GMO potatoes in our country, well, not at all

                  Maybe we don't even have imported potatoes?
                  In Russia, the cultivation of genetically modified potatoes is prohibited, but its import, processing and sale to the public is allowed. In the Russian Federation, it is allowed to import, process and sell two varieties of GMO-potatoes of Monsanto selection and three varieties of domestic selection:

                  Russet Burbank NewLeaf (Monsanto selection);
                  Superior NewLeaf;
                  Nevsky plus (domestic selection);
                  Lugovskoy 1210 amk;
                  Elizabeth 2904/1 kgs.

                  https://kartofan.org/chto-takoe-kartoshka-gmo.html
                  1. 0
                    27 December 2018 11: 06
                    We have imported potatoes, I did not deny this, most of the imported potatoes are used for chips and for the production of frozen potatoes for the ferret segment.
              3. 0
                27 December 2018 14: 33
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                It's a GMO potato. It's the same with apples.

                Exactly! And even earlier they washed with laundry soap, and now with powder, and in it there are solid GMOs. And rhodiacea. And ishsho chemistry - before the hawthorn was without chemistry, but tapericha with chemistry and with gemeo. And in the clinic, all GMOs are injected under the shoulder blade.
                1. 0
                  27 December 2018 16: 11
                  Quote: astepanov
                  and now powder, and in it solid GMOs. And rhodiacea. And ishsho chemistry - before the hawthorn was without chemistry, but tapericha with chemistry and with gemeo.

                  Powder standards in Russia are lower than Western ones.
                  I don’t know with chemistry hawthorn, or without, but it was banned. In pharmacies, in addition to alcohol, there is nothing for 40 rupees.
          4. +3
            27 December 2018 02: 23
            Alexander II abolished serfdom in 1861. But the Russian elite did it in their own way, releasing people with a piece of land. As a result, pushing grain over a hillock, they fattened on the corpses of peasants. https://topwar.ru/23913-kak-zhilos-krestyanam-v-carskoy-rossii-analitika-i-fakty.html
          5. +4
            27 December 2018 10: 33
            Quote: Nick_R
            Well, save the tales about the genius of the ghoul Stalin for the wife, if they turn her on.

            Close-minded people become personal. They choke on their own poison from resentment towards everyone and everything... Calm down... inhale, exhale...
        3. -40
          26 December 2018 16: 59
          "It was a breakthrough into the future." - What the fuck is the future, with this "savior" and his associates - "saviors" occurred: Civil war, surplus appropriation, mass famine from the 17th year to 23, between strife - the redistribution of power with the Trotskyists, the abolition of the NEP, the creation of collective farms, dispossession of the land, promised by Lyova - from a sealed wagon, to give to the peasants - they were finally taken away from them, which was the beginning of the end of the village, so such, the youth began to leave this poor leveling, the second famine from 28 to 33, then the policy of terror and repression - the second Bolshevik internecine strife, war with the Finns in the 39th to 40th years - which the Bolsheviks themselves unleashed, the Great Patriotic War, the war with the forest brothers in the Baltic states from 40 to 53 years, the declaration of all prisoners as traitors and long showdowns with them until the age of 53, the war against banditry in all territories earlier occupied by the Germans, even army generals had to be sent for this, after the 46th again the repressions "Doctors' Case", "Uranium Case" then the end - the Bolshevik elite devoured itself, only Beria remained, whom then the communists - not the Bolsheviks, shot. In principle, a worthy end to the power in which the people were personified by the expression "manpower" and no industrialization and the atomic bomb, as a plus, will outweigh the minus - tens of millions of citizens who died and suffered from war, famine, repression and other delights of Bolshevism - from 1917 to 53 years old, the bones of those events are still being dug up and will be dug up for a very long time.
          1. -28
            26 December 2018 17: 48
            Vadim, when I read an article and those who praise Dzhugashvili, I also always ask a question when they lived well under Stalin from 22 to 53.
            1. +11
              26 December 2018 18: 58
              with the same success you can ask when they lived well ... in principle ....
          2. +10
            26 December 2018 23: 33
            Did the Bolsheviks organize a civil war? For what? Today there is a confrontation between the rich and the poor. Is this what the Bolsheviks do? If they organized the Civil War, then why did they end it? Did the Bolsheviks organize the famine too? Can you find out the motive for organizing the famine? If they organized a famine, why did they fight it? Can I have a list of who rode in the sealed wagon? There were four trains. In each they drove along Lenin? Why are we silent about other parties? Oh, and porridge in your head!
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              -15
              27 December 2018 01: 01
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Did the Bolsheviks organize a civil war?

              And who else?
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Did the Bolsheviks organize the famine too?

              And who else?
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Can you find out the motive for organizing the famine?

              Grandmothers were needed. Between grandmothers and the lives of Soviet slaves, the Bolsheviks chose grandmothers.
              Quote: Mister Creed
              If they organized a famine, why did they fight it?

              They didn't fight him. American food aid ended only because the Bolsheviks were caught exporting food at the moment when it was delivered to them for free. In the form of help.
            2. -10
              27 December 2018 01: 09
              Your porridge is hardened like cement.
          3. +4
            27 December 2018 00: 17
            How bad it is to be a Great country, how good it is now, it’s not clear what is, pay for everything and live in a second-class country.
        4. +14
          26 December 2018 22: 41
          Interesting interesting! Cannibal mean? Shot you mean? And for whom did he then build cities, factories, schools, hospitals, roads, power plants ...? Why did the population and territory of Russia grow under him? Why don't you like the idea of ​​Juche - self-reliance!? Are you still looking forward to your mommy? Can't even bring a spoon to your mouth?
          1. rx.
            -17
            26 December 2018 22: 53
            Quote: Mister Creed
            And for whom did he then build cities, factories, schools, hospitals, roads, power plants ...?

            Slaves and chickens in a chicken coop cost money. Chickens build chicken coops, scold and vaccinate. Slaves need more. But the essence is the same.
            Quote: Mister Creed
            Why don't you like the idea of ​​Juche - self-reliance!?

            It's not about self-reliance. And in keeping the slave system in the country and the regime of sole ownership of this country (with all the giblets). And for these purposes, both Juche and Marxism-Leninism are suitable.
            1. +9
              27 December 2018 00: 36
              For what purpose did Stalin need slaves? Was he going to sell products? Which? Where was he going to put the money? Who and what guaranteed him the safety of the money? In what was he going to keep and keep the money? Gold, pounds, dollars? Did Stalin nominate him for positions based on personal devotion, on the size of his personal fortune, on the results of his work?
              1. rx.
                -16
                27 December 2018 00: 54
                Quote: Mister Creed
                For what purpose did Stalin need slaves?

                To increase the power of the USSR. And this meant the relics of Dzhugashvili himself personally.
                It just didn't work for him. Slaves, bad workers. And slave guards, bad workers. It is not in vain that the slave-owning TPO relations in antiquity lost out to the feudal ones. And feudal, capitalist.
                "Wise Stalin", a poorly educated person, having built a slave reserve in the USSR, tried to compete with bourgeois countries in production efficiency. And he was just ridiculous.
                Do you understand?
                An illiterate dictator who did not even know the basics of economic history and political economy. Something there tried to do on a global scale.
                And he flew everywhere. The only gesheft that he succeeded in was the sale of Soviet cannon fodder to the Anglo-Saxons during WW2. He never succeeded in anything else.
                Although no, I'm lying. After WW2, he brought German specialists from Germany in various fields of science and technology. And they did carry out an NT Revolution in the USSR in the late 40s, early 50s. And already on its basis, industrialization. Not the one that failed, the 30s. And the resulting, the second half of the 50s.
                In the 60s, as a result of industrialization, things in the USSR were generally going well.
                But in the 70s the fuse passed.
                In the 80s, stagnation happened (better known as stagnation).
                And in the 90s the USSR burst.
                It's simple, Carl. Everything is science.
                In the 80s, the USSR needed a new victorious won against an advanced country in the world. What was impossible, all such countries were already under the American roof. And in itself the slave-owning society is incapable of anything.
                1. +8
                  27 December 2018 07: 03
                  "Wise Stalin", a poorly educated person, having built a slave reserve in the USSR, tried to compete with bourgeois countries in production efficiency. And he was just ridiculous.
                  Do you understand?
                  An illiterate dictator who did not even know the basics of economic history and political economy. Something there tried to do on a global scale.
                  And he flew everywhere. The only gesheft that he succeeded in was the sale of Soviet cannon fodder to the Anglo-Saxons during WW2. He never succeeded in anything else.

                  What a nasty libel.
                  RX - did you call I.V. Stalin an illiterate dictator?
                  So I'm very interested in what you, in your miserable and worthless life, have done so great?
                  Perhaps, under your strict guidance, they built factories, won the war, created a nuclear shield, and united the Church in 1943?
                  How did Comrade annoy you personally? Stalin? What did he do to you?
                  Do you even understand that your personality and your thoughts cannot be compared with the Personality of I.V. Stalin, and his realized plans.
                  Churchill and Roosevelt met with him and often did what Stalin planned.
                  Learn history. And not according to Solzhenitsyn and Mannerheim.

                  PS You can not answer. With frank ignoramuses and anti-Soviet (to say the least) I have nothing to talk about.
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                    2. +4
                      27 December 2018 10: 31
                      You are not a decent person ... but a moral one, if you treat the victims of our people in the Great Patriotic War this way and put our country on a par with England, America in their role in World War II, you are worse than those liberals who periodically broadcast from TV screens
                      1. rx.
                        -5
                        27 December 2018 11: 39
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        if this is how you treat the victims of our people in the Great Patriotic War

                        How?
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        and put our country on the same level with England, America in their role in the Second World War

                        This is your idol Dzhugashvili turned it all around. It was he who actually equalized the contributions of the USSR and France to the victory over Germany.
                        Will you argue with the fact that Germany was divided into 4 occupation zones? Did she do it herself or by someone else's decision?
                      2. +3
                        27 December 2018 13: 36
                        You do not distort my thought, my disrespectful opponent, and if you call the fallen cannon fodder ... then how else can you characterize your attitude? Would you grind yourself like minced meat or let you really smell what gunpowder, blood and human flesh smells like, then probably wrote and thought differently
                      3. rx.
                        -9
                        27 December 2018 13: 39
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        if you call the fallen cannon fodder

                        No, you don't distort it. Dzhugashvili did not sell the fallen, but quite alive. They fell later, as a result of this diabolical deal between the Bolsheviks and the Anglo-Saxons.
                        And selling them, Dzhugashvili clearly understood that the victims would be colossal. But the interests of his beloved were closer to him. He wanted to sneeze at the Soviet people and their lives.
                        - the Chinese drove their victorious generalissimo to the island and if it were not for the Americans, they would have been torn to pieces.
                        - the Ethiopian field marshal-winner miraculously stayed in power. Making big concessions to the people.
                        And only in the USSR after the war was peace and quiet. This is because the Soviet society in its development was much lower than the Ethiopian. So the Bolsheviks worked on it before the war and during it.
                      4. 0
                        27 December 2018 13: 40
                        Your favorite technique, immediately switch to global blablabla
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                  2. +2
                    28 December 2018 19: 27
                    In the words of Golokhvastov: you are an uneducated swine, rx
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        5. +12
          26 December 2018 23: 53
          Quote from Bug_Nyuk
          cannibal and satan

          Then you are in an American labor camp or a concentration camp on a national basis.
          Everything is known in comparison - in the USA behind bars in 1938 there were much more people.
      2. +24
        26 December 2018 18: 00
        Later, but still
        1. -18
          26 December 2018 18: 11
          Yep, they canceled the cards. At the same time, in 1946-1948 we had a famine, even if the NK was as massive as in 32-33. And at that time we also exported bread to help fraternal Germany
          1. rx.
            -2
            26 December 2018 18: 54
            Quote: Nick_R
            And at that time we also exported bread to help fraternal Germany

            And the Bolsheviks also helped brotherly France. After all, after the war, their economy was not yet established. Is it the case in the USSR ...
        2. rx.
          -25
          26 December 2018 18: 53
          Quote: Wend
          but still

          The cards were canceled because there was nothing to redeem them. Thus, the population was shown the fig, look for food yourself. And whoever did not find it, we Bolsheviks are not to blame.
          1. +10
            26 December 2018 23: 39
            We introduced modern cards in the 90s. They are called the Russian ruble. Gave you a limited number of these cards, and spin as you can! Enlighten how life has improved since the 90s.
            1. rx.
              -10
              27 December 2018 01: 02
              Quote: Mister Creed
              We introduced modern cards in the 90s. They are called the Russian ruble.

              I once saw a toilet covered with Soviet money. Those still candy wrappers were.
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Enlighten how life has improved since the 90s.

              If you are blind, you will not be enlightened.
            2. -13
              27 December 2018 01: 14
              Life has changed radically - for the better, but there is corruption and bureaucracy in the country, problems like in all other countries.
          2. 0
            27 December 2018 10: 32
            You are talking nonsense again and again! where did this come from then
      3. -1
        27 December 2018 10: 23
        I won’t even argue, Stalin’s brilliant invention is collective farms and state farms. And why, really, bother with these individual farmers, strong peasant farms, buy products from them for money, if you can liquidate them under the slogan "everything around is collective farm - everything around is mine" and seize products almost for nothing. The main thing in this is beautiful slogans and the guiding force of the party. True, famine immediately set in - 4-6 million died, but we seem to forget this ....
        I’m embarrassed to ask, if some Shvonder came tomorrow from the author to seize his AUDI (Renault, UAZ ....) in order to implement the utopian slogans of Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, how would he sing?
    2. Underwater hunter
      +1
      26 December 2018 15: 15
      Quote: 210ox
      "Olgovich" would be nice to read. So that he would not ask stupid questions.

      Dmitry, I don't understand what your comment is about?
      1. +7
        26 December 2018 23: 51
        Yes, read Olgovich and it will be clear:
        -how bad that the veterans of the WWI in the Izhevsk uprising did not defeat the Bolsheviks and how good it is that the veterans drowned the revolution in Germany in the blood. (hello to the creation of the Nazi party in Germany)
        -leftist newspapers when they write complete nonsense about the famine in their countries (this cannot be) and the right ones when they write about the famine in the USSR (the Black Hundred "Bessarabian Post")
        -poor peasants shot by bloody maniacs - traded in smuggling for years, and as soon as the Reds wanted to take (dispossess) them, they did not let them escape abroad.
        - the insurgent peasants went from without starting to the Reds (an article about Kolchak) on horseback, with weapons and under saddles.
        - recently about scientists from the Republic of Ingushetia - you can read it yourself.
    3. rx.
      -27
      26 December 2018 16: 57
      How Stalin saved Russia

      Approximately the same as the Americans "saved" Hiroshima and Nashgasaki from the bad Japanese militarism.
      And together with the British, Dresden is from bad Nazism.
      Those. left behind ruins and remnants of survivors after his socialism.
      Some of the whole thing seems to be out of their mind. Praise the destroyer.
      1. +10
        26 December 2018 20: 54
        remnants of survivors

        It is only strange that for some reason there were more remnants than those originally living.
      2. +16
        26 December 2018 22: 44
        Quote from RX.
        Those. left behind ruins and remnants of survivors after his socialism.

        Did you leave the ruins? The ruins would have been left by the Americans if nuclear weapons had not been developed under Stalin.
        Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including DneproGES, Uralmash, KhTZ, GAZ, ZIS, factories in Magnitogorsk, Chelyabinsk, Norilsk, and Stalingrad. Which Chubais then sold for a penny to the nouveau riche. At the same time, not a single enterprise of this magnitude has been built in the last 20 years of democracy.
        And so on and so forth. The list is endless. And this is after two world wars, in the conditions of the Cold War. This is not a modern government, which was only tickled by sanctions - it fell down, plugging financial holes with pension kopecks taken from the people.
        1. -11
          26 December 2018 22: 53
          Quote: serpent
          Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including ...

          Under Stalin, there was an almost immense (and fenced off with a curtain from the rest of the world) market of the socialist camp. At the same time, for example, the quality of manufactured products (for example, engineering) did not play a special role, what they give is what they eat. We remember the Zhiguli, for example, we realize ...

          Quote: serpent
          over the past 20 years of democracy, not a single enterprise of this scale has been built

          Well, "of this magnitude" is not needed. Firstly, the Russian Federation is not the Union, the needs are not the same. Secondly, technologies have advanced a lot since the time of Stalin, and where 10000 workers were needed before, now, for example, five hundred are enough. And ninth, the market is open...competition, sir.

          That's why they "didn't build it". There is no need, and it’s very difficult to get into the already divided market, but with a quality product (you simply won’t fit with another, they won’t buy it).

          Quote: serpent
          modern government, which was only tickled by sanctions - it fell down, plugging financial holes with pension kopecks taken from the people

          Absolutely not to the village. The budget is in surplus, what holes? Just had to say it, right? wink
          1. +6
            26 December 2018 23: 13
            Quote: Consultant
            Under Stalin, there was an almost immense (and fenced off with a curtain from the rest of the world) market of the socialist camp. We remember the Zhiguli, for example, we realize ...

            Although a poor product, but its own. Zhiguli is not a fountain even now. And now the Russian Federation is not doing anything sensible for itself, nor can it give anything to the world market, except for raw materials.
            Quote: Consultant
            Well, "of this magnitude" is not needed. Firstly, the Russian Federation is not the Union, the needs are not the same.

            How so? Are we a superpower or where?
            Quote: Consultant
            and where 10000 workers were previously needed, five hundred, for example, are now sufficient.

            Robots inject, not humans! But this is not about us. We have 10000 workers working, so, relatively speaking, the same number of workers are working (I exaggerate a little). Because for 10 girls, according to statistics, 9 guys:

            Quote: Consultant
            Absolutely not to the village. The budget is in surplus, what holes? Just had to say it, right?

            Why then shake the pensioners? From the good life?
            1. rx.
              -8
              27 December 2018 01: 10
              Quote: serpent
              How so? Are we a superpower or where?

              What kind of reality do you live in? Economically, according to the results of 2017, the Russian Federation is in 20th place among 53 significant economies in the world. 0,4% of the whole world. A little smaller than Mexico and a little cooler than Israel.
              Spain is twice the size. Taiwan, three times. Italy five times. USA 81 times (31% of the world).
              Finish with this terminology of yours. They will laugh.
          2. 0
            27 December 2018 00: 07
            Surplus? Lol what? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeAx6l_xnX4 - that's the whole "surplus".
          3. +5
            27 December 2018 00: 16
            There were always sanctions against the Bolsheviks. Were they helped in the Civil War? No! Help the whites! In the 30s they helped build factories!? Then there was the global crisis. That's where they got pissed off! But did they help? Aha! They helped and created a counterbalance in the face of Hitler. Who came up with the idea of ​​the Iron Curtain? Are they helping us?
            1. rx.
              -10
              27 December 2018 01: 06
              Quote: Mister Creed
              They helped and created a counterbalance in the face of Hitler.

              Gee-gee-gee.
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Who came up with the idea of ​​the Iron Curtain?

              THE USSR. He began to fence himself off from everyone with fences and other engineering structures.
              1. +3
                27 December 2018 01: 18
                Was Churchill in Stalin's leadership?
                1. rx.
                  -3
                  27 December 2018 09: 04
                  Quote: Mister Creed
                  Was Churchill in Stalin's leadership?

                  You are not easy to understand. Learn Russian language.
              2. 0
                27 December 2018 17: 56
                April 26, 2011 article on VO.
                There was a stereotype that in the 1930s the USSR was a "closed country". However, even at the height of Stalin's repressions, not to mention the late 1920s, people subscribed to foreign newspapers, listened to foreign radio, and went on tours abroad. In turn, tens of thousands of foreign tourists and specialists came to the USSR.
                1. +2
                  28 December 2018 14: 17
                  However, even at the height of Stalin's repressions, not to mention the late 1920s, people subscribed to foreign newspapers, listened to foreign radio, and went on tours abroad.

                  It was business. Because of such things, many were later jailed for 58. The rest became smarter, that is, more careful.
                  1. -1
                    28 December 2018 14: 43
                    How many are there? Read the article, the figures show something else. Even if you take into account the civil, dispossession and Patriotic War, the repressions are somehow sluggish compared to the United States. And the economic repressions in the 90s for those who did not fit into the market and began victims in general rolls over and no one beeps.
                    For some reason, executions are crimes against humanity, and freezing in your apartment on the floor or at the hands of bandits with the iron turned on is either an accident or a simple criminal act.
                    1. +2
                      28 December 2018 21: 23
                      Read the article, the numbers show otherwise.

                      If your knowledge of Soviet history is limited to information from this article, then I see no point in further dispute.

                      For some reason, executions are crimes against humanity, and freezing in your apartment on the floor or at the hands of bandits with the iron turned on is either an accident or a simple criminal act.

                      Because the execution of innocent people on trumped-up (knocked out under torture) charges or simply because of class affiliation or membership in another party is a CRIME. I will not explain why, think for yourself. I'm hinting that at about the same time, another authoritarian ruler lived in one European country, who also destroyed "wrongly born" people and also destroyed his political opponents. True, his actions were condemned at the trial, like many tens of thousands of his henchmen. In our country, when condemning the personality cult of Stalin, only a few hundred people were put on trial.
                      As for "freezing in your apartment," I have not heard of such cases. Can you provide facts?
                      But under Stalin, among those who were expelled from their homes as a result of dispossession, there were many, many thousands who were frozen. And they did not get into any official statistics of repressions.
                      1. 0
                        28 December 2018 21: 40
                        If you don’t have such knowledge, then there’s nothing to write about, since you can’t refute the numbers. Protecting killers is now, of course, fashionable and you look clean.
                        From the Krestyanskaya Gazeta in April-June 1929 about the executions of kulaks. April-June 1929
                        In Vologda, by a court verdict, the murderers of the village correspondent Bubnov, the kulakists Andreev and Kuskov, and the attempted murder of the village correspondent Zykov, Krasavin, were shot.

                        The Kiev court considered the case of the kulak attack on the commune "Zirka" in the village. Roslavitsakh, five kulak leaders were sentenced to six years' imprisonment.

                        The Vyatka Gubernia Court sentenced to death a former merchant, kulak Ronzhin, who attempted to kill a social activist Mamonov. Ronzhin set fire to the Mamonovs' house three times over the course of several years. In the past, Ronzhin was the leader of a kulak uprising. The kulak's accomplices were sentenced to various prison terms.

                        In Ufa, the chief court of Bashkiria sentenced to death two kulaks who killed the chairman of the village council Comrade Romashenko in the winter.

                        In Frunze, the fist Zheltyak was sentenced to death for the murder of Omelchenko, a Komsomol village correspondent. His accomplices were sentenced to different terms of imprisonment.

                        Kokand. In Namangan, the case of the murder of activist Ziyaev in Khandabad has been investigated. The crime was committed by a group of mullahs and their followers after Ziyaev left the mosque, where he delivered a speech about the liberation of women. The killers and their inspirers, including seven people, were sentenced to death, the remaining 15 defendants were sentenced to various terms of imprisonment in prison.

                        The Chernihiv court sentenced to death two kulaks who, on the basis of class hostility, killed an active rural worker, the Nezazhnik Mosich.

                        ... The Kherson court sentenced Udovichenko, a kulak who had set fire to the Krasnaya Zvezda collective farm, to be shot.

                        The Leningrad court has finished the case of the murder of the village correspondent Krasavtsev with fists. Aleksey and Vasily Chistyakov and Grigoriev were sentenced to death, the rest of the defendants were sentenced to imprisonment for various terms.

                        The Smolensk court has completed the case of the murder of the chairman of the Mutual Assistance Committee in Monastyrshchenskaya vol. Kovalev. The criminals Pechorin and Kiriyenko were sentenced to death.

                        Dnipropetrovsk District Court considered in with. Glory to the glory of the case of the murder of Komsomol activist Andrei Boyko with fists. As it turned out at the trial, the decision to kill Boyko was made by local kulaks at a secret meeting. At the same meeting, they decided to kill the peasant activist and party candidate Lukyanov. The second assassination, however, failed. Two kulaks, the organizers of the murder, were sentenced to death, the other two - to 10 years in prison.

                        According to the verdict of the court in Bryansk, the murderers of the village correspondent Morozov Sova and Kozhukhov were shot.

                        In the Vinnitsa district in the village. New Krapivnaya visiting session of the district court sentenced to death four fist leaders who killed a peasant woman, a member of the electoral committee.

                        The Vyatka court sentenced the kulaks Svetlov and Vorozhtsov to death for the murder of a public peasant Tarasov.

                        The Odessa court sentenced to death three kulaks who organized the murder of Komsomol activist Chemychev in the village of Tuzla.

                        During the campaign for re-election of councils in the village of Urvan Sukhinichskogo u. Kaluga province. kulaks killed the social hut comrade Privorotov. Gubsud, defining the murder as a terrorist act, sentenced a big fist, the instigator of the murder of Logachev, the direct killer of Mamaev, bribed by Logachev, and an accomplice in the murder of Pivovarov, to be shot.

                        In Nizhny Novgorod, the trial of the killers of the village social activist Grigory Frolov has ended. The main accused - Puchezhsky - was sentenced to death.

                        The visiting session of the Perm District Court sentenced the kulak Berkutov from the Ochersky district to death for the murder of a village correspondent of the Strada newspaper Comrade Kurochkin.

                        The Penza court sentenced kulaks Kirillin and Zareikin and sub-kulakists Trutnev and Saraitsev to death for the murder of village reporter Korneev.

                        Exit session of the Mordovian District Court in the village. Maidan sentenced to death kulak Yudin, who attempted to kill the chairman of the village council Yurzhonkov.

                        V. Bereznyuk was sentenced to death by the Belotserkovsky district court for attempting to assassinate a village correspondent. Sokolki.

                        The Perm court has completed the case of the attempted murder of the secretary of the Zaprudninsky village council and the village correspondent Antipiev. One defendant, kulak Antipiev (namesake of a village correspondent), was sentenced to death, the other two defendants were sentenced to imprisonment for different terms.

                        In the Kiev region, [in] with. Shitovetsky listened to the case of a group of kulaks who brutally murdered the village activist Melnichuk. The court sentenced four direct killers to death.

                        Nizhyn court sentenced two kulaks to be shot. Danin for the murder of a peasant activist Ponomarenko.

                        The Main Court of Crimea in the village of Mushash completed the case of the murder of a rural social activist Alekseev, who was strangled with a rope, and his corpse was hidden in a cave in the forest. The murderer of Mamerov was sentenced to death, his two accomplices - to 10 years in prison each.

                        In Tulun, Novosibirsk Okrug. five kulaks were sentenced to death for the murder of the chairman of the council with. Izegol t. Suranova.

                        The Ryazan court finished the murder case in d. Byshusy Sasovsky y. Komsomol member Volzhankin. The murder was carried out out of revenge. Murderer Larin sentenced to death. Another criminal, the kulak Zaitsev, is sentenced to 10 years in prison.

                        In the town of Azarichi, Mozyr district. (Belarus), an exit session of the district court heard the case of the murder of a social activist, the village correspondent Senko, who actively fought against the kulaks and the anti-Soviet element. The killer - Korney Pinchuk - was sentenced to death.

                        In with. Salt Farms in Volhynia, a rural activist, an independent Levkur, was killed. The murder was committed with fists. An investigation is underway.

                        The Vyatka court sentenced kulaks to be shot. Koktyh father and son Moshkins, who killed the social peasant Kolochigov. The accomplices in the murder were sentenced to various terms of imprisonment.

                        Well, protect these whites, Vlasovites, the Balts who cleansed their countries of the wrong nation, and simply criminals who replenished the lists of Stalinist repressions and were rehabilitated in the 90s as fighters against Soviet power.
                        About a frozen pensioner from a newspaper of the 90s in Khabarovsk. There was no money to pay, they turned it off, including the military, well, it was recently possible to know.
            2. +3
              27 December 2018 08: 57
              The word "helped is incorrect. Help is when it's for nothing. And here, for its help, the West received gold and foreign exchange reserves and priceless art objects. Better to say, they earned it.
          4. 0
            27 December 2018 11: 47
            Quote: Consultant
            Absolutely not to the village. The budget is in surplus, what holes? Just had to say it, right? wink

            Explain to me unreasonable why a surplus budget is so good?
            Do you have money but don't know where to spend it? So?
        2. rx.
          -13
          26 December 2018 23: 11
          Quote: serpent
          The ruins would have been left by the Americans if nuclear weapons had not been developed under Stalin.

          In fact, the USSR did not develop nuclear weapons at all.
          And until the beginning of the 60s, the USSR could undermine its nuclear weapons only under its backside. There were no means of delivery. And during the life of Dzhugashvili, and nuclear weapons were in an experimental state.
          Quote: serpent
          Under Stalin, more than 1500 largest industrial facilities were built

          They are worthless. On market day. They produced products that no one needs now. Now all the factories have turned into shopping malls. There was no one to sell their "production".
          Quote: serpent
          At the same time, not a single enterprise of this magnitude has been built in the last 20 years of democracy.

          In fact, a lot of things have been built. Look it up, it's on the internet.
          But production. it is primarily sales. There is no point in building something if there is no sales. And certainly what you don’t need to build is industrial giants. They won't pay off.
          Quote: serpent
          plugging financial holes with pension kopecks taken from the people.

          And under Dzhugashvili, pensions were not paid to the majority of the population at all.
          1. +6
            26 December 2018 23: 21
            Quote from RX.
            In fact, the USSR did not develop nuclear weapons at all.

            As if the United States is also not themselves. But they brought to mind both with us and with "them".
            Quote from RX.
            And during the life of Dzhugashvili, and nuclear weapons were in an experimental state.

            During his lifetime, Dzhugashvili created so many basic starting conditions that later, even under Kukuruznik, they were able to bring many ideas to life.
            Quote from RX.
            They are worthless. On market day.

            Chubais, when he was selling them, said the same thing.
            Quote from RX.
            In fact, a lot of things have been built. Look it up, it's on the internet.

            Nothing of this level has been built.
            Quote from RX.
            But production. it is primarily sales. There is no point in building something if there is no sales.

            Sales could be organized internally. This is now wherever you spit - Made in China.
            Quote from RX.
            And under Dzhugashvili, pensions were not paid to the majority of the population at all.

            And under Dzhugashvili, the country was raised from ruins. There were not enough youth and workers - an echo of the war.
            1. rx.
              -9
              26 December 2018 23: 28
              Quote: serpent
              As if the United States is also not themselves.

              Like this? Where is it? In Honduras?
              Quote: serpent
              Chubais, when he was selling them, said the same thing.

              He didn't deceive you.
              Quote: serpent
              Nothing of this level has been built.

              And again, why?
              Quote: serpent
              Sales could be organized internally.

              How?
              To do this, you need to close the borders and start something like "building socialism." But very soon it turns out that there is nothing to eat.
              Already passed once. And the DPRK before my eyes, again.
              Quote: serpent
              This is now wherever you spit - Made in China.

              International division of labor. All over the world it is.
              Quote: serpent
              And under Dzhugashvili, the country was raised from ruins.

              Shooting the population?
              Quote: serpent
              There were not enough youth and workers - an echo of the war.

              Who is to blame for:
              1. Was the USSR drawn into WW2?
              2. Was the war carried out so mediocre?
              Postman Pechkin?
              1. +2
                26 December 2018 23: 54
                Quote from RX.
                Like this? Where is it? In Honduras?

                In the Third Reich, dear Party Genosse.
                Quote from RX.
                He didn't deceive you.

                Good joke! Just don't laugh...
                Quote from RX.
                And again, why?

                Putin said: "We need a breakthrough." To break through, what else?
                Quote from RX.
                How?
                To do this, you need to close the borders and start something like "building socialism." But very soon it turns out that there is nothing to eat.

                First you need to have at least something to sell. Something of your own. Is the situation normal in the military-industrial complex? We don’t buy foreign tanks, planes, machine guns? Can we do it whenever we want?
                Quote from RX.
                International division of labor. All over the world it is.

                Tell that to industrialized Germany or France.
                Quote from RX.
                Shooting the population?

                Well, not without it, of course. Question: how much and for what?
                I tell you right away - do not send me lists. There are a million sources, the numbers differ by orders of magnitude, where the truth is God knows.
                Quote from RX.
                Who is to blame for:
                1. Was the USSR drawn into WW2?
                2. Was the war carried out so mediocre?
                Postman Pechkin?

                Can I get the "Call a Friend" hint? Well I'll try it myself.
                1. Well, this is Hitler, no options.
                2. The formulation of the question is incorrect. What does "so stupid" mean? Poor compared to who? How did you know? Did you have the opportunity to simulate other options for the development of World War II?
                1. rx.
                  -7
                  27 December 2018 00: 41
                  Quote: serpent
                  In the Third Reich, dear Party Genosse.

                  No, it's not. And this fact is well known.
                  Quote: serpent
                  To break through, what else?

                  Are you already at war with someone and are surrounded?
                  Quote: serpent
                  from in the military-industrial complex is the situation normal?

                  Yes?
                  Quote: serpent
                  We don’t buy foreign tanks, planes, machine guns?

                  I would comment this to you. But I do not want.
                  Quote: serpent
                  Tell that to industrialized Germany or France.

                  What to tell? What are their assembly lines in China? So they know about it.
                  Quote: serpent
                  I tell you right away - do not send me lists. There are a million sources, the numbers differ by orders of magnitude, where the truth is God knows.

                  Why lists? There are certificates from the 1st Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR on the number of those arrested and convicted in the period 1921 - the first half of 1953. dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX
                  Signed by I.O. Head of the 1st Special Department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs Colonel PAVLOV
                  It is written there in black and white that during this period 799 people were shot (only in court, and how many were tortured and shot without trial, no one knows). Of these, in 455-1937, 38 people were shot.
                  Imagine, right? Almost 1000 people a day, every day. And so two years.
                  Quote: serpent
                  1. Well, this is Hitler, no options.

                  That doesn't happen. Of course, Hitler made the final decision. But only after the failure of the Soviet-German negotiations in the fall of 1940 in Berlin.
                  Quote: serpent
                  What does "so stupid" mean? Poor compared to who? How did you know? Did you have the opportunity to simulate other options for the development of World War II?

                  I didn't model anything. I just compared the figures for the loss of military personnel - 19 million Soviet troops against 3,6 million German on the Eastern Front.
                  Then I specified the figures for the losses of the civilian population of the USSR - 23 million people.
                  And he clearly understood that it was no longer possible to conduct a mediocre war.
                  1. +2
                    27 December 2018 11: 18
                    Quote from RX.
                    No, it's not. And this fact is well known.

                    Here's a line from Wikipedia:
                    In 1938, Otto Hahn, Fritz Strassmann and Lisa Meitner discover the splitting of the uranium nucleus when it absorbs neutrons. This is where the development of nuclear weapons begins.
                    Quote from RX.
                    Are you already at war with someone and are surrounded?

                    Such a war on poverty - that's what's relevant. The economy also needs to be patched up. And that's all oil and gas.
                    Quote from RX.
                    Yes?

                    Compared to the rest of the production - still like YES.
                    Quote from RX.
                    I would comment this to you. But I do not want.

                    Well, this is voluntary. You do not want - we do not insist.
                    Quote from RX.
                    What to tell? What are their assembly lines in China? So they know about it.

                    "The production of cars and trucks is located in the states of Baden-Württemberg, Rhineland-Palatinate, Lower Saxony, Hesse, North Rhine-Westphalia, Bavaria and Saar" - oh, these Chinese names, you will break the language.
                    Quote from RX.
                    Of these, in 1937-38, 681 people were shot.
                    Imagine, right? Almost 1000 people a day, every day. And so two years.

                    What is so little? Rumor has it that Stalin personally killed a million a day. And so for almost three years. In total, he shot a billion people.

                    "Young men, babies, grandfathers - Let the whole country know,
                    What is guilty of all the troubles, Stalin is an hellish soton!
                    This can be confirmed - After all, anyone is sure of that!
                    Though Rezun, even Solzhenitsyn, Novodvorskaya, Acceleration ...
                    Stalin killed poets! He drowned the country in blood!
                    And with him - notice this - there was no AshDiTiVi!
                    It is also known about the war - Stalin ruined the army.
                    And almost Hitler entered Moscow with his army ...
                    But, suddenly, three soldiers, Three soldiers from the penal battalion -
                    For three - one shovel, Or rather, a stalk, -
                    They swooped in, ran in, Surrounded and pressed,
                    And they fought for the whole country, Received an order.
                    But after the war, guys, there is no justice!
                    Stalin from that penal battalion, sent everyone to the next world.
                    All one hundred thousand million! This is only in one Moscow!
                    And their beautiful wives, I loaded two on barges ...
                    Drowned them - so it is necessary! The girls went to the bottom
                    Three hundred thousand billion is the exact number!
                    Stalin of their innocent children - One hundred and one quadrillion
                    I ate instead of sturgeon And cooked broth from them!
                    Overeating - that's cattle! At this time, Ukraine
                    Through his fault, cretin, All did not eat nifiga.
                    Starving, starving, Trillion died,
                    The rest were shot by the Power of the damned commies!
                    Happy New Year! Happy New Mor!
                    Happy New Holodomor!
                    In general, a clear picture: Stalin is a bastard, Stalin is a bastard!
                    He is a vampire, a ghoul, a beast, And he is to blame for everything!
                    — What, you were robbed at night? - Did your wife leave you?
                    I'm sorry, it's clear for sure Stalin is an hellish soton!
                    - What, lowered the salary? - What, they fired you completely?
                    Stalin is to blame damned - It's already clear to everyone!
                    - What, Sasha doesn't love you? What, hit your foot?
                    Stalin is to blame, but how! Stalin - and no one else!
                    Who yesterday ahem ... in the entrance? Who broke my window?
                    Who was on the sidewalks? Who translated the movie like that
                    That in it the black instantly became white, The door became a doormat,
                    And the car became chalk, But the woman became a man?!
                    Who did all this? Who is this terrible bastard?
                    I will boldly tear off the veils - IT IS STALIN'S GUILTY!!!"
                    Author: Raccoon (comrade Goblin)
                    Quote from RX.
                    That doesn't happen. Of course, Hitler made the final decision. But only after the failure of the Soviet-German negotiations in the fall of 1940 in Berlin.

                    That is, all this fascist ideology, Drang nah Osten, the fight against Bolshevism is nothing?
                    Quote from RX.
                    And he clearly understood that it was no longer possible to conduct a mediocre war.

                    More recently, an interesting article was published on VO about the losses of the Soviet army:
                    https://topwar.ru/151454-o-poterjah-v-velikoj-otechestvennoj-esche-raz-i-s-nenavistju.html
                    Check it out.
                    1. rx.
                      -6
                      27 December 2018 12: 39
                      Quote: serpent
                      In 1938, Otto Hahn, Fritz Strassmann and Lisa Meitner discover the splitting of the uranium nucleus when it absorbs neutrons. This is where the development of nuclear weapons begins.

                      Nope.
                      Quote: serpent
                      "The production of cars and trucks is located in the states of Baden-Württemberg, Rhineland-Palatinate, Lower Saxony, Hesse, North Rhine-Westphalia, Bavaria and Saar" - oh, these Chinese names, you will break the language.

                      Does the production of industrialized countries end with the assembly of trucks and cars?
                      By the way, the production of components for these assembly shops has long been in China.
                      Quote: serpent
                      Rumor has it that Stalin personally killed a million a day. And so for almost three years. In total, he shot a billion people.

                      And you are a rascal.
                      It may be about your close relatives.
                      You are "Ivan, who does not remember kinship."
                      Quote: serpent
                      That is, all this fascist ideology, Drang nah Osten, the fight against Bolshevism is nothing?

                      And what about the "fascist ideology"?
                      Nazism was in Germany. Fascism was in Italy. Learn at least basic things.
                      Quote: serpent
                      More recently, an interesting article was published on VO about the losses of the Soviet army

                      It is not interesting to me. I prefer to read documents.
                      1. 0
                        27 December 2018 13: 03
                        Quote from RX.
                        Nope.

                        Hmm... Argumentation is not your forte.
                        Quote from RX.
                        Does the production of industrialized countries end with the assembly of trucks and cars?

                        This is an example I gave. In any case, these countries do not live at the expense of oil and gas.
                        Quote from RX.
                        And you are a rascal.
                        It may be about your close relatives.
                        You are "Ivan, who does not remember kinship."

                        None of my relatives were shot. Great-grandfather was only a little dispossessed by the Bolsheviks, yes. Also, in the circle of my contacts, I have not heard about repressed-executed relatives. So I am "Ivan, who does not remember the negativity from Stalin."
                        Quote from RX.
                        And what about the "fascist ideology"?
                        Nazism was in Germany. Fascism was in Italy. Learn at least basic things.

                        Well, Nazism, well. Does it make a big difference? In the context of our discussion, this is irrelevant. Now, if the main topic would be the political / ideological system in Nazi Germany, then yes, you could correct me.
                        Quote from RX.
                        It is not interesting to me. I prefer to read documents.

                        What are you doing on this site then? Do you specialize exclusively in comments?
                      2. rx.
                        -3
                        27 December 2018 13: 13
                        Quote: serpent
                        None of my relatives were shot.

                        Do you live outside of society according to the principle "my hut is on the edge"?
                        Quote: serpent
                        Well, Nazism, well.

                        At first, Hitler did not need the USSR. And Drang was not needed. But fighting with the Anglo-Saxons (and the situation was catastrophic for him), he could not leave the rear unattended.
                        In the autumn of 1940, he held talks with the USSR. And after their failure, he decided to attack the USSR.
                        It can be assumed that with a different foreign policy of the USSR, he might not have made such a decision.
                        It can be assumed that with a different outcome of the Hess mission, there would have been no war with the USSR. But here nothing depended on the USSR.
                        Like versions.
                        Quote: serpent
                        What are you doing on this site then? Do you specialize exclusively in comments?

                        Why, I read something. But not the topic you suggested. There are enough documents for me.
                      3. +1
                        27 December 2018 15: 19
                        Quote from RX.
                        Do you live outside of society according to the principle "my hut is on the edge"?

                        Well, why not. I wrote to you that in the society where I move, no one says bad things about Stalin. Someone praises, someone does not care, but there are no complaints against him. Maybe because among my friends there are no artists and directors who were repressed, repressed, but not repressed. Also not familiar with any kind of prisoners of conscience.
                        Quote from RX.
                        It can be assumedthat with a different foreign policy of the USSR, he might not have made such a decision.
                        It can be assumedthat with a different outcome of the Hess mission, there would have been no war with the USSR. But here nothing depended on the USSR.
                        Like versions.

                        You can guess. But it is impossible to replace the real story with an alternative one.
                        Quote from RX.
                        Why, I read something. But not the topic you suggested. There are enough documents for me.

                        Strange. If you are so offended by this topic, then it would be logical to assume that you should be interested in different sources.
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                      5. 0
                        27 December 2018 22: 48
                        Quote from RX.
                        I am a well educated person

                        I would also like to note your extraordinary modesty. And there is an opinion that it was during the USSR that Russia was the most advanced country in its entire history. All the same, outstanding results have been achieved in the space sector, in industry, in medicine and education.
                      6. rx.
                        +1
                        27 December 2018 23: 13
                        Quote: serpent
                        I would also like to note your extraordinary modesty.

                        I have a lot of shortcomings. But this is not. I don't suffer from modesty.
                        Quote: serpent
                        And there is an opinion that it was during the USSR that Russia was the most advanced country in its entire history.

                        I already wrote that there was no Russia at all during the Soviet era.
                        Quote: serpent
                        All the same, outstanding results have been achieved in the space sector, in industry, in medicine and education.

                        At the level of propaganda Sovagitrop.
                        About Education, look how many Nobel Prizes the USSR had and you will understand everything.
                        About medicine, see how long they lived in the USSR and see in films what Soviet actresses look like. At 45, these are already ancient old women. And everything from "wonderful Soviet natural nutrition" and "wonderful Soviet medicine." They even made a denture for Brezhnev in Germany.
                        About industry and completely funny. Where is it now, this industry? Who needs it with open borders? only in conditions of scarcity of goods could it exist.
                        Who the hell needs this space sphere? I still cannot understand the veal enthusiasm of the crowd regarding the beeping ball, Belka, Strelka and Gagarin.
                        No, why it was necessary for the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, I perfectly understand. I perfectly understand why the space designers needed this. ships and astronauts. But why did others need it? Unclear.
                      7. -1
                        28 December 2018 11: 06
                        Quote from RX.
                        I already wrote that there was no Russia at all during the Soviet era.

                        It was called the RSFSR.
                        Quote from RX.
                        About Education, look how many Nobel Prizes the USSR had and you will understand everything.

                        Look at how many there are now, and you will already understand.
                        Quote from RX.
                        About medicine, see how long they lived in the USSR and see in films what Soviet actresses look like. At 45, these are already ancient old women.

                        Because Soviet actresses gave all their strength for the role. These are not modern actresses who can’t even play “served to eat” normally. But they constantly visit beauty salons.
                        Quote from RX.
                        About industry and completely funny. Where is it now, this industry?

                        Where, where ... Chubais, conditional and specific, ruined her darling.
                        Quote from RX.
                        Who needs this cosmic sphere anyway? I still cannot understand the veal enthusiasm of the crowd regarding the beeping ball, Belka, Strelka and Gagarin.

                        Compared to Star Wars, it looks, of course, pale. No space cruisers, no Darth Vader, no Jedi. But in the real world, these were great achievements. It was, to say the least, the quintessence of Soviet science and technology.
                        Quote from RX.
                        But why did others need it? Unclear.

                        This was a bright dream. There was pride in the country.
      3. +5
        26 December 2018 23: 44
        And now let's hear about the breakthrough of Tsar Boris and Tsar Vladimir! Well! I'm all attention! Where and in what way did they surpass Stalin?
        1. +10
          27 December 2018 00: 06
          Quote: Mister Creed
          And now let's hear about the breakthrough of Tsar Boris and Tsar Vladimir! Well! I'm all attention! Where and in what way did they surpass Stalin?

          Fish are very powerful. With each jerk, another bottom breaks through. I liked how Yakov Kedmi said about Stalin: "He was the only ruler in the 20th century who didn't give a damn about Russia."
      4. +1
        27 December 2018 10: 34
        And do you think it was necessary to surrender to Hitler? Yes or no?
      5. +1
        27 December 2018 17: 51
        Well, there was another way the United States went through it in the 30s, we in the 90s, who did not fit into the market, died out, through hunger, shooting, soldering irons and irons, migration. (1 million a year).
        As I understand the exterminator Stalin is not to your liking, do you prefer the democrat Yeltsin and an iron in the soft spot from strong guys?
  2. Underwater hunter
    +27
    26 December 2018 15: 11
    Excellent and true article. Stalin is now very lacking. Russia needs a breakthrough, otherwise we will end up where the Romanovs ended up. And rightly so, first a dream, a goal. Further actions. And of course you need a personality. In general, there is a program and a goal, a strong personality is needed.
    1. +6
      26 December 2018 15: 20
      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      In general, there is a program and a goal, a strong personality is needed.

      There is no workers' party. All personalities are there.
      1. +18
        26 December 2018 15: 54
        Quote: atos_kin
        There is no workers' party. All personalities are there.

        Now can you dig deeper? Guess at once why in Russia for a quarter of a century production (heavy and light industry) has not been created (restored)? Why is the percentage of citizens engaged in creative work so low in the country? That is why. Yes
    2. -17
      26 December 2018 20: 09
      Stalin has one fat minus for repression and terror in the USSR.
      That's right, he did a lot for the country, but without repression he would undoubtedly have done more.
      1. -12
        26 December 2018 20: 13
        but without repression would undoubtedly have done more.

        Without repression, he would not have done anything, because feudalism and the slave-owning system, which he was building under the guise of socialism, is not possible without terror. What the collapse of the USSR showed
        1. +11
          26 December 2018 22: 38
          Quote: Nick_R
          Without repression, he would not have done anything ...

          WOULD he do something or not, that is the question. And the fact that your grandfather or father did not fly out with smoke into the pipes of Majdanek - he DID it.
          1. -13
            26 December 2018 22: 45
            This is exactly what my grandfathers and millions of other grandfathers did. Despite the treacherous stupidity of Stalin, for a fraction of a percent of which he should have been shot according to the law established by him. It was only after the failure near Kharkov that he had the sense not to get involved in command and control.
            By the way, if it weren’t for Stalin and the Bolsheviks as a whole, then the war with Germany in that form simply wouldn’t exist. Hitler skillfully played on the contradictions between the Western European powers and the USSR. If Russia had continued to exist in the format of an empire or a republic, Germany would have been crushed in the bud.
            1. +3
              27 December 2018 00: 29
              Quote: Nick_R
              If Russia continued to exist in the format of an empire or a republic

              You have in the format of small states controlled by the West, then yes, Hitler could not be pumped with money.
        2. +6
          26 December 2018 23: 54
          And when does the son of an oligarch become an oligarch? The son of a deputy, a deputy? The son of an official, an official? Is it labor dynasties or feudalism? Or a caste society?
          1. rx.
            -5
            27 December 2018 01: 15
            Quote: Mister Creed
            Is it labor dynasties or feudalism? Or a caste society?

            According to the laws of the development of society, after the slave-owning society, feudal society always follows. And never, bourgeois. It comes after the feudal.
            Serfdom was abolished in the middle of the 18th century. And socialism fell at the end of the 20th century.
            In the net balance, we have 150 years of delay ... in Russia. And how would it not lag forever.
      2. +6
        26 December 2018 21: 33
        Political repressions were, are and will be in all countries of the world, the Stalinophobes who captured the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe believe that they themselves have every right to carry out political repressions both against the communists and their supporters, and against each other.
        1. -7
          26 December 2018 22: 49
          Tell us how many communists and their supporters have been shot by Stalinophobes over the past 27 years for political reasons. Well, or at least slapped ten colonies.
          1. +7
            26 December 2018 23: 34
            If the communists and their supporters had been shot in time for the collapse of the Union, then over the past 27 years the number of the Russian Federation has not decreased without a war by 13 million people. And how many were not born, then for this they did not interfere with hanging.
          2. 0
            27 December 2018 00: 17
            Stalinophobes starved to death, shot and drove millions to suicide. It is strange not to know Soviet history, but it is even more strange not to know the history of the 90s.
          3. +4
            27 December 2018 00: 33
            Why shoot you can deprive you of your livelihood, as it was in the 30s in the USA, you can continue the tradition later (like Chaplin), according to this tradition, in the modern West there is no opposition as a class that has died out.
      3. +10
        26 December 2018 21: 55
        Quote: smith 55
        Stalin has one fat minus for repression and terror in the USSR.
        That's right, he did a lot for the country, but without repression he would undoubtedly have done more.

        Yeltsin, without repression, reduced the population of Russia by various estimates by 6-8 million people, lost a huge amount of territory, ruined agriculture through the liquidation of collective farms and state farms, ruined thousands of plants and factories and drove Russia into debt bondage to the West.
        1. -11
          26 December 2018 22: 51
          ruined agriculture through the liquidation of collective farms and state farms, 

          Comrade dreamer, where are you from? Russia now produces as much agricultural products as the RSFSR could only dream of. Unless they have caught up with milk and beef
          1. +10
            26 December 2018 23: 44
            Quote: Nick_R
            ruined agriculture through the liquidation of collective farms and state farms, 

            Comrade dreamer, where are you from? Russia now produces as much agricultural products as the RSFSR could only dream of. Unless they have caught up with milk and beef

            Theorist, have you changed shoes for boots for a long time in order to walk through the farmlands of central Russia, the North and the Trans-Urals? The villages died out, and the lands were overgrown with hogweed. Who will raise the fallow lands? The youth left. In some places, individual farmers and private traders are floundering a little, and then because they are hostages of regional unemployment, because there is nowhere to go. This is the result of the reforms of Yeltsin and his brigade of reformers. I do not argue that today there are agricultural products that are produced by large agricultural holdings, but this is the South of Russia and Altai, but Russia is much larger in both width and longitude. Yes, we are leaders in pork, poultry meat and grain, but we simply do not have enough granaries and elevators because the old ones were destroyed and new ones were not built. We buy seeds abroad, because selection and seed production were killed. We rot or sell fish to China, Korea and Japan. there are no freezers and processing capacities, and what gets on the shelves, with a penny production cost, is for some reason more expensive than meat.
        2. -1
          27 December 2018 21: 49
          Article about Stalin. We will talk about Yeltsin another time.
          It is possible that he is many times worse than Stalin, he developed industry, Yeltsin ruined it.
          I condemn Stalin for repressions.
          Yeltsin and Gorbachev - one pair of boots.
          1. 0
            4 January 2019 11: 19
            Quote: smith 55
            Article about Stalin. We will talk about Yeltsin another time.
            It is possible that he is many times worse than Stalin, he developed industry, Yeltsin ruined it.
            I condemn Stalin for repressions.
            Yeltsin and Gorbachev - one pair of boots.

            two of a Kind
      4. +7
        26 December 2018 23: 49
        Is capitalism a repressive or creative system? Why are there so many beggars under capitalism?
        1. rx.
          -11
          27 December 2018 01: 20
          Quote: Mister Creed
          Is capitalism a repressive or creative system?

          Such formations do not exist.
          Capitalism is a socio-economic formation. For today, the highest. Consists of several phases of development.
          But don't stress yourself. You, if in capitalism, then only through emigration.
          Quote: Mister Creed
          Why are there so many beggars under capitalism?

          What nonsense. Where did you notice them?
          1. +3
            27 December 2018 12: 03
            Quote from RX.
            But don't stress yourself. Youif into capitalism, then only through emigration.

            I understand that you are already in capitalism and without emigration? And after that you tell us about life in Russia?
            1. rx.
              -5
              27 December 2018 12: 11
              Quote from fireclown
              And after that you tell us about life in Russia?

              This is not for me. I traditionally do not comment on events after the death of socialism. I can only briefly note that this very death of socialism, as a person free from the installations of a totalitarian sect, I welcome.
    3. -2
      26 December 2018 20: 58
      In general, there is a program and a goal, a strong personality is needed.

      Even if such a person appears, how can he come to power without destroying the country?
      By the way, where can I see the program? I am sure that this program will not consist of slogans like "introduce executions for corruption" and the like.
      1. +5
        27 December 2018 00: 20
        It's a pity ... Why is there still no condemnation of the reforms of the 90s at the legislative level? Pension reform is the result of those reforms, but there is no condemnation ...
    4. +3
      27 December 2018 12: 20
      Stalin is now very lacking. Russia needs a breakthrough, otherwise we will end up where the Romanovs ended up.

      I absolutely agree.
      And, in my humble opinion, we will come to where the Romanovs ended much faster than it seems at first glance.
      All "progressive humanity" has sharpened such a tooth on Russia. The only thing that stops them is the presence of nuclear weapons.
  3. -25
    26 December 2018 15: 18
    my great-grandfather, who was shot in 37, probably, seeing how I read this, turned over in his grave ...
    1. Underwater hunter
      +25
      26 December 2018 15: 27
      Quote: Bull Terrier
      my great-grandfather, who was shot in 37, probably, seeing how I read this, turned over in his grave ...

      You know, my family also had victims from that time. My great-grandfather came from the war, which he went through from beginning to end and, drinking in the company of "friends", began to tell all the horrors, not embarrassed in expressions, including about how they retreated. In general, someone reported. And closed my great-grandfather for 10 years. He served 8 years. He died two years later. But, grandmother, father's daughter until the last day kept in a conspicuous place, along with icons, a portrait of Stalin. And she always said that this is the only leader who has done so much for the people that his place is with icons. Like this. The time was such, the author described it well in the article.
      1. -21
        26 December 2018 15: 29
        do not make for yourself an idol and any likeness, a tree on
        woe in heaven, and a fir-tree on the earth below, and a fir-tree in the waters
        under the earth: do not bow down to them, nor serve them

        Do not make yourself an idol, nor any image of
        what is in heaven above, and what is on earth below, and what
        in the waters under the earth: do not worship them and do not serve them
        1. Underwater hunter
          +14
          26 December 2018 15: 32
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          do not make for yourself an idol and any likeness, a tree on
          woe in heaven, and a fir-tree on the earth below, and a fir-tree in the waters
          under the earth: do not bow down to them, nor serve them

          Do not make yourself an idol, nor any image of
          what is in heaven above, and what is on earth below, and what
          in the waters under the earth: do not worship them and do not serve them

          And the fact that a portrait of Putin in every office - what do you think?
          1. -8
            26 December 2018 15: 38
            I have no idea. I don't suffer from such nonsense.
            1. 0
              26 December 2018 16: 10
              Do you carry it in your purse?
              1. -7
                26 December 2018 16: 17
                why should I wear it at all?
                1. +3
                  26 December 2018 18: 17
                  I clarified, without any such thing, I have photographic portraits of Hemingway and Jeb Stuart hanging in my dacha, who the second one I found out at the age of 25)))
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2018 18: 23
                    I have two daughters, so whose photos I have are everywhere and so clear)))
                    1. +2
                      26 December 2018 19: 34
                      All that I hung, modestly, post-war portraits of grandparents.
                    2. +4
                      27 December 2018 00: 25
                      To create a family, you need two - a guy and a girl. To increase the population, more than 2 children are needed in each family, and in Russia the average figure is 1. And what was the birth rate under the "bloody ghoul"? Oh, but how is it - a bloody ghoul, and the birth rate went through the roof.
                      1. -6
                        27 December 2018 00: 27
                        in North Korea, too, with the birth rate, everything is fine. 2.1 now. Can you give more examples on the subject?
                      2. 0
                        31 December 2018 13: 59
                        The example is extremely incorrect. In prosperous Europe, the birth rate is falling, in the Soviet Union it was growing. And North Korea is a good country.
                      3. TTi
                        -1
                        31 December 2018 14: 38
                        Quote: Llur
                        And North Korea is a good country.

                        So go live there, since you like everything there.
                      4. 0
                        1 January 2019 13: 45
                        And you don't tell me what to do.
                      5. TTi
                        -1
                        1 January 2019 14: 12
                        Quote: Llur
                        And you don't tell me what to do.

                        I'll take care of you. I want you not to live in the country where you do not like to live. And in the "good country" (your assessment) of the DPRK.
                      6. +1
                        28 December 2018 15: 06
                        And you compare the population growth under the USSR and the late Romanovs, and then you will understand how "well" Soviet citizens bred and multiplied.
                        If you're too lazy to search, here they are:
                        In 1897 the population of the Russian Empire is 129 thousand people. In 142 1914 178 thousand people For 379 years, the population growth was 17%.
                        In 1920, the population of the USSR was 137 thousand people. After 727 years in 17. 1937 164 thousand people Growth 500%. That is, TWICE less than under the kings. At the same time, 19 was taken as the base, when there was a demographic hole in the USSR after the Civil War, and according to the laws of demography, after the hole, the birth rate always peaks.
                        And for seven years since 1920. the population grew by 9,25%, while during the eight "golden" years of Stalin from 1929 to 1937. the increase was 6,67%. Life has become better, life has become more fun.
          2. -6
            26 December 2018 17: 05
            They only weigh in state offices - as it should be. And in the rest - as you wish, you can hang, you can not hang, your business
            1. -15
              26 December 2018 17: 25
              They only weigh in state offices - as it should be.

              Who is supposed to? This is the usual sycophancy of our nomenklatura, just introduced into mass use by the modest comrade Stalin
              1. +16
                26 December 2018 19: 45
                Yeah, Stalin personally introduced, walked and hung out! And before him, there were no portraits of kings in all state institutions? They were all modest, where was Stalin before them.
                1. -12
                  26 December 2018 20: 16
                  If you wanted to live, then at least the devil would hang a bald man. Not recognizing the great role of the leader is 58 without talking
                  1. +8
                    26 December 2018 20: 45
                    And where does the recognition or not of the great role of the leader? I say that a portrait in the office or at home of a leader, tsar, general secretary, guru or some other boss is an old tradition that originated long before Stalin. Why hang all the dogs on him?
                  2. +2
                    27 December 2018 00: 01
                    What are you! Wow! And if Stalin's tattoo is stuffed on the body? Will you be inconsiderate? Is this a guardian? And why then sat with both a portrait and a tattoo?
            2. +4
              26 December 2018 18: 18
              I, twice, saw portraits of Putin at the collectors!!!
              1. -5
                26 December 2018 19: 52
                This is their own business - I personally do not have a single portrait on the wall.
              2. -3
                26 December 2018 20: 17
                I, twice, saw portraits of Putin at the collectors!!!

                You visit collectors too often. Get on with this business.
        2. +3
          26 December 2018 15: 40
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          Do not make yourself an idol, nor any image of
          what is in heaven above, and what is on earth below, and what
          in the waters under the earth: do not worship them and do not serve them

          Ok, yes, but what about the icons?
          1. +1
            26 December 2018 15: 48
            the second commandment, of those that were bequeathed to Moses by God, says that it is not fitting for a person to lose his mind in front of someone earthly or something material. In the first place in life should always be God, because he is the only creator of the world and the giver of life. this makes sense.
            1. +5
              26 December 2018 22: 48
              Quote: Creedco
              ...but what about icons?

              You were asked a specific question, and you pour water about the commandments.
              1. -7
                26 December 2018 22: 56
                I don't spill anything. do not understand the answer is your troubles
            2. +3
              27 December 2018 00: 38
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              God must always come first in life.

              then I am an atheist - in the first place is the family and its well-being.
        3. +10
          26 December 2018 17: 06
          current idiots and in those conditions. They can't cope with a normal country
          1. -13
            26 December 2018 17: 13
            You wouldn't be able to do the same, alas.
            1. 0
              4 January 2019 11: 24
              I do not claim power, unlike them. He called himself a load, climb into the back and don’t whine that you can’t.
      2. -21
        26 December 2018 17: 22
        But, grandmother, father's daughter until the last day kept in a conspicuous place, along with icons, a portrait of Stalin

        That's right, they explained to your grandmother using an accessible example: if you want to live, don't even think of saying a word against Stalin. Apparently in your family this attitude is stigmatized at the genetic level.
    2. +30
      26 December 2018 15: 39
      Quote: Bull Terrier
      my great-grandfather, who was shot in 37, probably, seeing how I read this, turned over in his grave ...

      And why was he shot? Let's have a plaintive story about the evil GPU-NKVD officers here slap us. And judging by how much scum ran to help the Nazis, it turns out that the NKVD did not work well, how many were not shot. And then somehow they showed on TV, on the day of remembrance of the victims of repression, two unfortunate daughters who were innocently shot, although according to these "daughters" it turned out that they were born a little later than the mothers were shot, but these are trifles ... Yes, and how do you know what your grandfather was shot? After all, the whole family of the repressed, according to the statement of the liberals, was also all repressed, and they all necessarily died of hunger in the camps, so you should not have been, according to what our liberalists are talking about, shitting on our past. You are also from that cohort, shitting on the past of our (not your) country?
      1. -20
        26 December 2018 15: 46
        I know my family history very well. Grandfather began to collect documentary still. I don’t need to ask any stupid questions here, like, do I know for sure. we collect not for some nonsense, but simply so that the genus knows its history.
        1. +15
          26 December 2018 15: 49
          Quote: Bull Terrier

          I know my family history very well. Grandfather began to collect documentary still. I don’t need to ask all sorts of stupid questions here like do I know for sure

          Well, why did they shoot the enemy? Have you pardoned the enemy's family? And not TYPO, but TYPE.
          1. -14
            26 December 2018 15: 58
            58 article. great-grandmother went to the other end of the country where she died after 3 years. son i.e. my grandfather, having graduated from a machine-gun school, did not receive an officer rank and ended the war as a sergeant. it's all maternal.
            1. -12
              26 December 2018 16: 29
              Bull Terrier hi They don’t understand this, maximalists, for them there is only black and white, and shades of gray, as with you and with many innocently ruined and trampled, they don’t take into account, not from evil, of course, but still. drinks
              1. -10
                26 December 2018 16: 32
                Yes, I'm not really proving anything. I just know the history of my family and, to put it mildly, I don’t understand these races with Stalin. here the point of view is important. on the one hand, it’s stupid to deny that in his time the country was simply moving with huge strides, but at what cost ...
            2. +14
              26 December 2018 16: 39
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              58 article.

              Can you be more specific? On what point of the article, you know there are so many interesting things in 58
              58-2. Armed uprising, any action with the intent to forcibly seize any part of its territory from the Soviet Union or an invasion with the aim of seizing power: shooting or declaring an enemy of workers with confiscation of property and deprivation of citizenship of the union republic and, thereby, citizenship of the USSR and expulsion from the borders of the Union SSR forever, with the admission, under extenuating circumstances, of reduction to imprisonment for a term not less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of the property.

              there are emollients - and on him the reptile is 3,5 years about how.
              From 1921 to 1953, 3 people were convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes, including 777 sentenced to capital punishment.

              I agree a lot, but you can’t even compare how many simply sat without trial or investigation in the democratic United States, by the way, we never had Guantanomo ... But on the other hand, along this 58th, by the way, the ascetics went from Vlasov, and other traitors to the motherland. So to pity your great-grandfather, an enemy of the people, who was legally punished in due time, in the severity of the law corresponding to that
              time. There are complaints, you think that I'm wrong, these are your problems. A - "THIEF SHOULD BE IN JAIL". H
              1. -6
                26 December 2018 16: 53
                58.6 and watch your language.
                1. +5
                  27 December 2018 00: 17
                  Quote: Bull Terrier
                  58.6 and watch your language.

                  Espionage for a foreign country. Then there were many such unrevealed lines of policemen, and they simply helped the occupiers ...
                  1. -7
                    27 December 2018 00: 18
                    my great-grandfather is not one of them. like hundreds of thousands of his kind.
                2. +5
                  27 December 2018 00: 52
                  58-6. Espionage, i.e. transfer, theft or collection for the purpose of transferring information that is, in its content, a specially protected state secret, to foreign states, counter-revolutionary organizations or private individuals, entails - imprisonment for a term not less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of property, and in in cases where espionage caused or could cause especially grave consequences for the interests of the USSR, the highest measure of social protection is execution.
              2. -18
                26 December 2018 17: 20
                In the USSR, Guantanomo was a good substitute for Sharashka, concentration camps and executions, and after a psychiatric hospital - for everyone who was against the government or spoke critically about it.
                1. +8
                  27 December 2018 00: 22
                  Quote: Vadim237

                  In the USSR, Guantanomo well replaced Sharashka, concentration camps and executions,

                  You know very little about this issue. First, about the concentration camps. In the USSR, there were correctional labor centers where people were sent to court. This is the first thing. In the USSR, people were not kept for several years without trial and investigation. All actions of both investigators and convicts were based on the Code of Criminal Procedure. Where the actions of all persons are described in detail. read at your leisure so that you don’t write such nonsense later. About the sharashka, as I understand it, you generally just heard something about the sharashmontazh office ...
                  1. -10
                    27 December 2018 01: 20
                    Sharashka of the NKVD, as it was a prison, so it remained a prison - at that time anyone could be put behind bars, one denunciation - at least from starting and after that, life turns into a nightmare.
          2. -13
            26 December 2018 17: 03
            Fitter, apparently your ancestors from the GPU were shot? An apple from an apple tree. . .
            1. +9
              27 December 2018 00: 30
              Quote: Nick_R
              Fitter, apparently your ancestors from the GPU were shot? An apple from an apple tree. . .

              My ancestors from Siberia, raised bread, built the Novosibirsk Opera and Ballet Theater, and then in January 1942, one was gone near Moscow, the other two reached the end of the war, one as a driver, the other in the infantry. That is, they worked for their country, and defended it when they had to, like many people who served in the GPU. And for a piece of sausage and beautiful clothes were not sold.
          3. 0
            26 December 2018 17: 40
            It's good to flood, to put it mildly - it's not good of you, somehow mean.hi
    3. -10
      26 December 2018 17: 00
      my great-grandfather was shot in 37 

      I sympathize with you, but if he was shot precisely in 37, then most likely he himself belonged to the party nomenclature. Then Stalin finished off the remnants of the Leninist Guard, as well as the remnants of the opposition and those who knew too much, for example, participated in the previous cleansings.
      1. -3
        26 December 2018 17: 06
        what does that change? the reasons are secondary. the fact is important. I have always recognized him as a historical figure. and perhaps at that time it could not have been otherwise. but I really don’t understand the desire of people to admire him.
        1. -18
          26 December 2018 17: 33
          I don't think it really changes anything for you.
          And yes, Stalin is a historical figure. Such a huge black spot in our history. Like Hitler in Germany. Only here in the same Germany they don’t shout at every corner "we would have a new Hitler!" But where do we get such loudmouths come from, I have no idea.
          1. rx.
            -17
            26 December 2018 19: 05
            Quote: Nick_R
            But where do we get such loudmouths come from, I have no idea.

            Do not compare Dzhugashvili with Hitler. Hitler, in historical terms, though a villain. But as a villain, he is petty and primitive in comparison with Dzhugashvili. But Dzhugashvili is a big villain. Very large. Huge, one might even say so. And I don’t know who can compare with him in terms of atrocities and negative consequences. Is that the bubonic plague that raged in Europe in the Middle Ages.
          2. +2
            27 December 2018 14: 08
            Such a huge black spot in our history,
            what kind of yours? Polonsky-Shuvalov-Chubais? Do you hear yourself, mister lost? Your tsar-father Peter I, halved Russia, and Putin considers him an example. So, pray to Vlasov, this is the Russia that you lost.
    4. Underwater hunter
      -4
      26 December 2018 17: 13
      Quote: Bull Terrier
      my great-grandfather, who was shot in 37, probably, seeing how I read this, turned over in his grave ...

      In general, during the entire period of Stalin's rule, about two million four hundred thousand people were convicted under political articles, about four hundred thousand of them were shot. This is a documented fact.
      1. rx.
        -8
        26 December 2018 17: 29
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        In general, for the entire period of Stalin's rule, about two million four hundred thousand people were convicted under political articles.

        According to the certificate 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX No. ONLY POLITICAL:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 1 people
        Total (4) 664 719 people.
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        about four hundred thousand of them were shot.

        The certificate does not indicate who was shot and for what. But there are numbers:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 54 people
        Total 929 569 people.
        http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312
        1. Underwater hunter
          +4
          26 December 2018 17: 31
          Quote from RX.
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          In general, for the entire period of Stalin's rule, about two million four hundred thousand people were convicted under political articles.

          According to the certificate 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX No.
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 people.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
          4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 1 people
          Total (4) 664 719 people.
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          about four hundred thousand of them were shot.

          The certificate does not indicate who was shot and for what. But there are numbers:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 people.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 people.
          4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 54 people
          Total 929 569 people.
          http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312

          You have data along with ordinary criminals. I write about politics.
          1. rx.
            -9
            26 December 2018 17: 33
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            You have data along with ordinary criminals. I write about politics.

            What other criminals? Only political.
            Is it hard to see the link?
            1. Underwater hunter
              0
              26 December 2018 17: 46
              Quote from RX.
              http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312

              I'm sending you a lot of links like this right now. For example:
              http://moskva.bezformata.com/listnews/dannih-o-repressiyah-v-stalinskoe-vremya/27917592/
              But even here the data is overestimated, Maxim Shevchenko cited the data that were provided to Khrushchev when that cult was preparing to expose. There everything is confirmed by numbers and 100% reliable. And according to those data, about 400 tons of people were shot during the reign of Stalin, and precisely according to watered. articles.
              1. rx.
                -10
                26 December 2018 17: 48
                Quote: Underwater Hunter
                I'm sending you a lot of links like this right now.

                I gave you a link to the document. What are you to me? For someone's chat.
                Do you think these are equivalent links?
                1. Underwater hunter
                  +3
                  26 December 2018 17: 51
                  Quote from RX.
                  Quote: Underwater Hunter
                  I'm sending you a lot of links like this right now.

                  I gave you a link to the document. What are you to me? For someone's chat.
                  Do you think these are equivalent links?

                  Exactly the same chatter as yours. What is the difference according to you? There, what is a photo of archival documents?
          2. The comment was deleted.
          3. +13
            26 December 2018 22: 44
            Well, of course.
            www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond

            Yakovlev Foundation. It would also be worth a link to the Gorbachev Foundation, the Yeltsin Center and all the numbers of Ogonki in the kingdom of the scoundrel Korotich.
        2. +10
          26 December 2018 19: 47
          Aren't you tired of bullshitting?

          Quote from RX.
          The certificate does not indicate who was shot and for what. But there are numbers:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 977 people.

          In fact, there is another number - 23 391 people. And not for 28-29 years, but from 1921 to 1929.

          Quote from RX.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 220 people.

          In fact, there is another number - 681 692 people.

          Quote from RX.
          According to the certificate 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX ONLY POLITICAL:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 381 people.

          In fact, there is another number - 208 863 people. And not for 28-29 years, but from 1921 to 1929.

          Quote from RX.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 628 862 people.

          In fact, there is another number - 1 391 093 people.

          Quote from RX.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 664 049 people.

          In fact, there is another number - 1 people.

          Aren't you ashamed to deal with postscripts in such a case?

          This time. Secondly. We read article 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR and pay attention that among the political articles most are what are now considered criminal offenses against society and the state, and economic on a particularly large scale: treason, participation in anti-Soviet conspiracies, terror, sabotage, espionage, illegal border crossing, smuggling, sabotage, rebellion, refusal to work in the camp, escapes from places of detention (the last two were called counter-revolutionary sabotage!).

          Thirdly, the "victims of the totalitarian regime" more or less plausibly can be called those convicted on the following points: Anti-Soviet agitation; Family members of traitors to the Motherland; A socially dangerous element - 3 points out of 15. All the rest, according to Article 58, are terry bandits.

          And finally, everything is known in comparison. Let's take a look at Art. 58-10 (anti-Soviet agitation): "Propaganda or agitation containing a call for the overthrow, undermining or weakening of Soviet power ... Imprisonment for no less than six months."
          Let's compare:
          - "Article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Public calls for the implementation of extremist activities ... Imprisonment for up to three years... imprisonment for up to five years with the deprivation of the right to hold certain positions ...

          PS. And like a cherry on the cake, so that the neck does not rub: Of the total number of those convicted not to CMN, six hundred thousand-plus were sentenced to exile and exile. Of course, punishment, but not a prison, not a colony. Yes, and it was, you see, for what.

        3. rx.
          -7
          26 December 2018 20: 18
          Quote from RX.
          According to the certificate 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX ONLY POLITICAL:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 people.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
          4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 1 people
          Total 4 people

          A number of numbers are incorrect (I looked in the wrong place). The correct numbers are:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 204 people.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
          4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 1 people
          Total 4 people
          Quote from RX.
          The certificate does not indicate who was shot and for what. But there are numbers:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 people.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 people.
          4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 54 people
          Total 929 people
          http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312

          A number of numbers are incorrect (I looked in the wrong place). The correct numbers are:
          1. From 1928 to 1929 - 2 people.
          2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
          3. From 1937 to 1938 - 681 people.
          4. From 1939 to 1 pg. 1953 - 54 people
          Total 779 people
          The original source is here: http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312
      2. -9
        26 December 2018 17: 40
        I heard a ringing, but I don’t know where it is. Firstly, this is not for the entire period of Stalin's rule. Secondly, they dispossessed the kulak among us without any verdicts. They just drove them in stages somewhere in northern Kazakhstan, threw them into an open field with what they carried in their hands, and that’s all. Many did not survive. So my great-grandfather with his wife and older sons were sent away. All perished.
        If anyone is interested, read Sholokhov's letter to Stalin about dispossession.
        http://vlastitel.com.ru/stalin/reform/perepisk.html
      3. +5
        26 December 2018 23: 15
        Vladimir, the contenders grappled with each other, which of them is the descendant of the most innocent.
    5. +14
      26 December 2018 17: 14
      probably for what. Zinoviev was not shot in the same years for anti-Stalinism, although he said that it was easily possible and necessary. Understood at the time. We read all sorts of Solzhenitsyns.
    6. VRF
      +1
      26 December 2018 18: 21
      You would not interfere with him.
    7. +4
      26 December 2018 21: 35
      One of the qualities of Stalinophobes is to never admit guilt either for their own crimes, or for the crimes of their relatives, or for the crimes of those who are beneficial to them for their vile purposes.
  4. -19
    26 December 2018 15: 28
    What did I just read? Is the author already an adult? And then fabrications in the style of a pimply teenager ... Nonsense ...
    1. +24
      26 December 2018 15: 34
      Quote: Selin Andrey
      What did I just read? Is the author already an adult? And then fabrications in the style of a pimply teenager ... Nonsense ...

      This is not nonsense. These were the realities of the time. If Trotsky had won in the internal party war of the early 20s, Russia in those years could really have become a colony of the West. Only thanks to the Great Joseph Vissarionovich, Russia was able to rise from the ruins and make a powerful economic and industrial breakthrough, becoming the most powerful state, economic, industrial, political power in the entire history of mankind.
      1. -10
        26 December 2018 19: 26
        Quote: solzh
        This is not nonsense. These were the realities of the time.

        For the rest of the world, with the possible exception of China and Mongolia, this has never been a reality. The scope of repressions against their own people was monstrous, that's a fact.

        Quote: solzh
        Russia was able to rise from the ruins and make a powerful economic and industrial breakthrough, becoming the most powerful state, economic, industrial, political power in the entire history of mankind.
        Firstly, not Russia, but the USSR - in Soviet times, Russia just gave all its juices to raise unnecessary outskirts - from Tajikistan to the Baltic states (look how many rubles were spent on them and how much on the indigenous regions of Russia). Secondly, the USSR was once the most economically powerful power in history?! They laughed, right, with their dilettantism ....
        1. +3
          26 December 2018 20: 31
          Quote: Warrior2015
          in Soviet times, Russia just gave all the juices to raise unnecessary outskirts - from Tajikistan to the Baltic states

          In Soviet times, the outskirts were annexed to Russia?
          Quote: Warrior2015

          The USSR was once the most economically powerful power in history?!

          It has always been a powerful power in all spheres.
          Quote: Warrior2015
          The scope of repressions against their own people was monstrous, that's a fact.

          You were strongly hooked by the propaganda of Goebbels and traitors from the NTS.
          Quote: Warrior2015
          They laughed, right, with their dilettantism ....

          Are you offended? by the Soviet government, of course. Apparently, under the Soviet regime, jeans and bubblegum were not enough. I can only pity you...
          1. -7
            26 December 2018 21: 33
            Quote: solzh
            In Soviet times, the outskirts were annexed to Russia?
            Yes, that's right, even more - from the metropolis (indigenous regions of the USSR) the outskirts were financed, to the detriment of the Russian, and more broadly, the Russian people. And in the end, this got us into a donut hole. Great internal politics of your idols, cho.

            Quote: solzh
            You were strongly hooked by the propaganda of Goebbels and traitors from the NTS.
            No, I (more precisely, my ancestors) were strongly "hooked" by the repressive machine itself, but I am personally convinced by ordinary Soviet statistics (not official, but internal, disclosed by the former repressive bodies themselves).

            Quote: solzh
            It has always been a powerful power in all spheres.
            Powerful in what? I laughed for a long time - we were talking economically !!! flew into space - and what's the point? when the absolute majority of the common people did not have enough food, not to mention decent clothes. And they forgot about the queues for toilet paper (oh yes, it appeared in the USSR only in the 70s, a powerful state, cho).


            Quote: solzh
            Are you offended?
            But you apparently ate very well in special distribution centers and were treated in the best departmental hospitals.
            1. +4
              26 December 2018 21: 58
              Quote: Warrior2015
              I laughed for a long time - we were talking economically !!!

              I wrote to you: IN ALL SPHERES, this means in the economic too. Laugh more, I'll laugh the same.
              Quote: Warrior2015
              But you apparently ate very well in special distribution centers and were treated in the best departmental hospitals

              I never had to lie in Soviet hospitals in the Soviet years. Alas.
              And as for food, yes, you are right, I ate well, my father worked as a foreman of the zero cycle, and my mother worked in Soviet times as a deputy chief accountant of a confectionery factory. Something like this wink
              1. rx.
                -9
                26 December 2018 23: 19
                Quote: solzh
                As for food, yes you are right, I ate well.

                What do you "eat well"?
                I personally don’t remember in the USSR such products so that you can “eat well”.
                "Exploding" in a frying pan "amateur sausage".
                Potato (hit on the body) every day.
                Stew from veins and skins.
                Half rotten vegetables in season.
                What foods do you "eat well"?
                1. +2
                  27 December 2018 08: 51
                  Yes, you can’t remember anything, because you didn’t live in the USSR, but you carry your stupid liberal nonsense, having read or heard all sorts of things.
                  1. rx.
                    -3
                    27 December 2018 09: 20
                    Quote: flint
                    And you can't remember anything

                    What, forgot the "Soviet service"? Overweight on Russian grubs?
                    Remember.
                    1. +4
                      27 December 2018 09: 30
                      I grew up on Soviet natural grubs. Unlike the current crap in a beautiful wrapper, which all our stores are littered with.
                      1. rx.
                        -3
                        27 December 2018 09: 33
                        Quote: flint
                        I grew up on Soviet natural grubs.

                        Did you eat from a special dispenser? I can only envy you. Because the vast majority of the inhabitants of the USSR ate from stores. And there the products were noticeably different. They were made not according to GOSTs, but according to the Annexes to GOSTs. And these, as they said in Odessa, are two big differences.
                      2. +4
                        27 December 2018 11: 38
                        For what applications? Now products are made neither according to applications nor according to GOSTs, but the devil knows what. But then it was according to GOSTs, and those who did not according to GOSTs very quickly had an unpleasant conversation at first in the BHSS, and then confiscation and many days of rest and re-education in places not so remote. As for the special distributor? Yes, including from where the majority of urban residents received food. At that time, in all large enterprises and mailboxes there was a harmonious system of deficit distribution. Not for a red word, but in childhood I was sick of red and black caviar, although our family was quite poor (there were no cars or dachas, and the entire total earnings of my parents was about 250 rubles). And in the shops there were several varieties of cheese made from MILK, several varieties of boiled sausage made from MEAT, milk, which turned sour very quickly, and therefore it was immediately boiled, and not the one that can now stand for months. that natural, and not current apples, lying on the shelves for months and not rotting. So the vast majority of citizens of the USSR ate plenty and natural products, and not the crap that is made using technologies that came from your beloved and adored West.
                      3. rx.
                        -2
                        27 December 2018 11: 48
                        Quote: flint
                        For what applications?

                        To GOSTs. Learn materiel.
                        Quote: flint
                        but as a child I was sick of red and black caviar

                        And I see that you are not a spoiled and unpretentious person. If everything rests on caviar for you. Yes, I remember there was such a Soviet indicator of a luxurious life. But so much water has flowed under the bridge since then...
                        Quote: flint
                        and the entire total earnings of the parents was about 250 rubles.

                        Then you are obviously lying about caviar. I know perfectly well what 250 Soviet rubles for three is. This is poverty, even in Soviet beggarly times.
                        Quote: flint
                        And in the shops there were several varieties of cheese from MILK

                        Cheese was not produced in the USSR at all. Even for special distributors. Cheese in the USSR was called what is now called a cheese product.
                        Quote: flint
                        several varieties of boiled meat sausage

                        Sausage, and even boiled, was made from meat only for special distributors. In stores, it was made from offal and all kinds of chemicals. There was a shortage of food in the USSR, if you forgot.
                        Quote: flint
                        Vegetables and fruits, yes, there were rotten

                        And only in season. In the off-season, they simply did not exist.
                        Today, for most of the year, you can just as well not buy them. And then you have no reason to complain about them.
                        Quote: flint
                        So the overwhelming majority of citizens of the USSR ate plenty and natural products

                        Oh, these shovels fantasies to me. Fed up, the memory swam with fat. You would be returned a week ago, "to a just society". Mouths would be closed at once. In the queues, after insisting on elementary things.
                      4. +1
                        27 December 2018 12: 45
                        And I see that you are not a spoiled and unpretentious person. If everything rests on caviar for you.
                        Well, I can also add on a whim there was often canned ham, Finnish salami and Hungarian cervelat - enough? Or something else to remember?
                        I know perfectly well what 250 Soviet rubles for three is. This is poverty, even in Soviet beggarly times.

                        You don't know anything if you're talking nonsense like that. Yes, in the 70s it was not a lot of money, but it was quite enough for normal food and living with reasonable savings to save money for a new TV, refrigerator, washing machine and clothes. In addition, do not forget about some additional earnings, in addition to official salaries. I won’t even comment on your nonsense about sausage and cheese, it’s just ridiculous! As for the lack of fresh vegetables and fruits in the off-season, yes it happened, but this was compensated by very good canned food (Bulgarproduct, for example, which your beloved "democratic and loving" West destroyed), then at that time it was very common to preserve fresh vegetables and fruits themselves citizens (I definitely had it) and it’s better to eat natural canned food than to eat the current fresh, non-rotting chemical rubbish. So, in the words of Bulgakov's character: I congratulate you, comrade, on another LIE! You can continue to spoil your nonsense, but people remember how it really was.
                      5. rx.
                        -3
                        27 December 2018 13: 19
                        Quote: flint
                        canned ham, Finnish salami and Hungarian cervelat - enough?

                        And why did you decide that all this was a natural product? Especially canned ham.
                        Quote: flint
                        You don't know anything if you're talking nonsense like that.

                        Unlike you and your fantasies about caviar and salami, but lived in that system. And I know perfectly well what 250 rubles for three is.
                        Quote: flint
                        In addition, do not forget about some additional earnings, in addition to official salaries.

                        Are you starting to give back?
                        Quote: flint
                        but this was compensated by very good canned food (Bulgarprodukt

                        Quote: flint
                        but this was compensated by very good canned food (Bulgarprodukt

                        Bulgarian preserves were good?
                        Quote: flint
                        further, at that time, the preservation of fresh vegetables and fruits by the citizens themselves was very common (I definitely had it that way)

                        This is from the lack of everything and everyone and poverty.
                      6. +1
                        27 December 2018 13: 42
                        And why did you decide that all this was a natural product? Especially canned ham.
                        And why did you decide that I decided that this is a natural product? When you lie, watch what others say and what you are saying. This is certainly not a completely natural product, but in those days, certainly elements of a beautiful life that our poor, but not impoverished family could afford. Further, I'm not going to hand over anything, since an increase of fifty dollars a month is not much and that's a big difference.
                        Bulgarian preserves were good?
                        And why are they bad? "Or do you have other favorite authors?"c
                        This is from the lack of everything and everyone and poverty.
                        This is your conclusion from the lack of mind and poverty of consciousness, when you cannot distinguish the ingenuity and mind of the common people from poverty. But where are you, you despise the simple Russian people, well, then don’t be offended when people spits in the face of people like you - slave lackeys of the West.
                      7. rx.
                        0
                        27 December 2018 14: 13
                        Quote: flint
                        which our poor but not impoverished family could afford.

                        250 re per month for three, this is poverty. Even by the standards of the impoverished USSR
                        Quote: flint
                        since the increase of fifty dollars a month is not much, then there is a big difference.

                        Yeah. We decided to throw 50 re a month for solidity. Down and Out trouble started.
                        Quote: flint
                        when you cannot distinguish the ingenuity and mind of the common people from poverty.

                        In a normal country, people do not need to be smart and think like Spinoza in order to survive.
                        Quote: flint
                        oh where are you, you despise the simple Russian people,

                        Do not confuse "Soviet people" and "Russian people". If only because the "Russian people" in wildlife does not exist. And there is a Russian nation.
                      8. +3
                        27 December 2018 14: 49
                        Yeah. We decided to throw 50 re a month for solidity. Down and Out trouble started.

                        I do not throw anything, but I write the truth, unlike your lies and speculation. I can also add that as a child, during the summer holidays, I delivered mail for 15 rubles. per month, earning for their hobbies and where does solidity? This is real life, not your liberal nonsense about poverty. By those standards, we had everything in the family except for the car, and in the early 80s, the state allocated us a free piece of land and an INTEREST-FREE loan to build a house for 20 years. Speaking about poverty, you forget about good free medicine, almost free vouchers to pioneer camps and rest homes, good free secondary technical and higher education, for which they even paid a scholarship! if you studied without triples - as much as 45 rubles, an increased 52 !, which is bad, but you could live a month, and now you can live a lot on a scholarship of 1500-2500? You forget about the free issue of housing and absolutely penny sums for housing and communal services. You forget about the huge pensions by those standards and in comparison with the current ones. Etc. and so on. Well, of course, it’s not profitable to remember propagandizing Western values ​​and saying that the USSR was a Mordor where babies were eaten alive.
                        A nation is people united by their origin, language, common views, a single place of residence.
                        The people are people united not only by one history, land and common language, but also by a single state system. The difference is very small for normal people, except for some with an inflamed brain.
                      9. rx.
                        0
                        27 December 2018 17: 07
                        I will not comment on your propaganda. Tired.
                        One thing surprises me, why do you, a person in general, a beggar, even by the standards of the USSR, praise him so much? Are you feeling bad right now?
                        Or does envy keep you awake? Eating like a worm?
                        "May my eyes be out, if only my neighbor has both?"
                      10. +2
                        27 December 2018 19: 51
                        I have the truth of that life, you really have nonsense from the training manual, I don’t think you yourself lived in the USSR. I live very well at the moment, for that I see how badly the majority lives and that much of what was then could well be now if the authorities thought about the people. And in the USSR a lot of things were good and it was done under the leadership of Stalin.
                      11. rx.
                        +2
                        27 December 2018 21: 52
                        Quote: flint
                        I live very well at the moment,

                        Here you have a good life. And there is nothing to call for to live badly.
                        "Do not wake famously while it is quiet." Look, on the bunks in the Gulag it will be too late to reverse.
                      12. 0
                        27 December 2018 22: 54
                        Yes, I don’t call for anything, I just think your cheap agitation about the USSR and Stalin is crazy, that’s all. And the GULAG is clearly not crying for me, when I read your nonsense, the repressions of 37 seem to me clearly justified. There were many such talkers then, and there was a big war ahead, how many traitors in the rear. Judging by the war, he still planted a little, more was needed.
                      13. rx.
                        +1
                        27 December 2018 23: 17
                        Quote: flint
                        And the Gulag is clearly not crying for me

                        You are wrong. First of all, those who called for his return will be thrown there. It always happens that way.
                        Quote: flint
                        when I read your nonsense, the repressions of 37 seem to me clearly justified

                        And when I read you, I begin to doubt that Russia has any future at all.
                        Quote: flint
                        and there is a big war ahead, how many traitors are in the rear.

                        The Bolsheviks always had a big war ahead of them. And there are enemies around. The system was like this. Militant and unviable.
                        Quote: flint
                        Judging by the war, he still planted a little, more was needed.

                        No, there is no future. Lived up hers. With such a population, there can be only one result. collapse.
                      14. 0
                        27 December 2018 23: 43
                        The Bolsheviks always had a big war ahead of them. And there are enemies around. The system was like this. Militant and unviable.

                        You are clearly an unhealthy person, you can see a huge nail sticking out in your head on which "Bolsheviks and Stalin" is written, you are tormented and blame the Bolsheviks and Stalin for everything laughing I dare to remind you that both before the Bolsheviks and after them, Russia always had a war and always had enemies. And always will be. Not a system, but a country and our fate is such that we always fight against all scum. And at the expense of unviability, you are lying, but with people like you it would be unviable, yes, and the country would have long since ceased to exist. And I have always defended my country, Russia, both when it was the USSR and when it became the Russian Federation. And if necessary, I will continue to defend, and your empty chatter is a cheap thing and no one needs it.
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                      16. 0
                        28 December 2018 01: 13
                        Still can't get over your bile nonsense?
                        If your mother, and Russia is my mother and my ancestors, was raped by some criminal elements (and Ulyanov, the Bolsheviks and especially Dzhugashvili were just criminal elements), then how do you order them to be treated?

                        And that only the Bolsheviks "raped" Mother Russia? Can you recall what Peter the Great did to her? And in general, the whole history of Russia and its people is one continuous rape by and large, and the Bolsheviks and Stalin do not particularly stand out here.
                        First, in October 1917-January 1918, they carried out a creeping counter-revolutionary (reactionary) coup, returning society from the very first phase of bourgeois society back to feudalism.

                        When they started the "creeping" coup, the country as such no longer existed, it began to unravel like a patchwork quilt, what the hell is the first phase of bourgeois society? This mess and chaos of anarchy is what you call it? This strongly reminds me of our 90s, there, too, there was the same first phase of bourgeois society, so much so that they almost pissed off the country, although everything was sold to various crooks on the cheap. That was a real rape, the Bolsheviks nervously smoke on the sidelines.
                        As a result, by the end of the 20th century, Russia came to the same state in which it was in the middle of the 19th century.
                        Dude, you're not really sick, but in the 19th century in Russia there were space rockets, they produced atomic bombs, nuclear icebreakers, submarines and power plants, airplanes, etc. and so on? Get treated, otherwise you will die ahead of time and you will not wait for a brighter future laughing
                      17. +1
                        28 December 2018 02: 46
                        Quote from RX.
                        I dare to remind you that under the autocracy, for better or worse, Russia moved progressively forward in its development. Yes, slightly behind most of Europe. But not much.
                        Since 1918, the Bolsheviks have turned back the clock twice.
                        First, in October 1917-January 1918, they carried out a creeping counter-revolutionary (reactionary) coup, returning society from the very first phase of bourgeois society back to feudalism. At the same time, it was they, the Bolsheviks, who were the new nobles.
                        But that is not all. At the end of 1927, Dzhugashvili began his creeping counter-revolutionary (reactionary) coup. Gradually plunged the country into a state of slave-owning OEF. 20 in the yard, and in the east of Europe, the slave-owning society of the early Middle Ages. Disgrace.
                        As a result, by the end of the 20th century, Russia came to the same state in which it was in the middle of the 19th century. A century and a half down the drain. But the neighbors-competitors did not doze, they developed. Therefore, today the prospects for Russia because of the acts of the Bolsheviks are very vague. And I wouldn't be surprised if it all ended in failure. Losing in intraspecific competition.
                        Here is a brief summary of what the Bolsheviks and socialism became for Russia.

                        The spiral of time is very well described, yes. Perhaps, according to the strategic plan of those who financed the first Bolsheviks, this is exactly how everything was conceived - to take Russia for a century from world leaders to lagging powers, unfortunately ...
                      18. +2
                        28 December 2018 02: 43
                        Quote from RX.
                        Cheese was not produced in the USSR at all. Even for special distributors. Cheese in the USSR was called what is now called a cheese product.
                        Good point, nothing to add!

                        Quote from RX.
                        And only in season. In the off-season, they simply did not exist.

                        Yes, for vegetables and fruits, I just enjoy modern counters, and I recall with horror the collapse in vegetable stores of my Soviet childhood ...
                2. +2
                  27 December 2018 10: 48
                  How old are you, dear man?
        2. +7
          26 December 2018 21: 38
          YOU, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people in your beloved 1937-1938, the communists repressed only 1,3 million people, this is 0,9% of the population of the USSR, and in just 4-5 years you ran MILLIONS to grovel in front of the Nazis who attacked the Soviet people, 26 million Soviet people were killed with them.
          1. -6
            26 December 2018 23: 10
            1937-1938 is only TWO years of Stalinist-Bolshevik repressions out of 25
          2. +11
            26 December 2018 23: 46
            Irina, I welcome you. It is difficult to convince here people who have studied history according to Solzhenitsyn.
            1. -10
              27 December 2018 01: 25
              I didn’t read a single story by Solzhenitsyn - I studied a lot of history, including from words, photographs, my ancestors - unlike all your scribbles, they are living representatives of those times.
              1. 0
                27 December 2018 21: 46
                My young friend, don't you think that you have problems with your upbringing?
    2. -4
      26 December 2018 17: 05
      Delirium

      Well, what are you, this is the usual senile. . . .
  5. +11
    26 December 2018 15: 28
    The first part of the article accurately describes the current state of Russia. Where to get STALIN?
    1. -17
      26 December 2018 17: 08
      You are probably starving - when was the last time you traveled around the country?
    2. -14
      26 December 2018 17: 09
      Where to get STALIN?

      You see, maybe there would be those who want to shoot people like you, but in our country it is a criminal offense. Therefore, I propose to all those who so desire a new Stalin to organize themselves: to receive a free Far Eastern hectare from the state somewhere in the taiga, surround it with barbed wire, cast lots for who will be prisoners and who will be guards and live there for their own pleasure in anticipation of a new parish.
      1. -9
        26 December 2018 17: 22
        And call this area "Point"
      2. +3
        27 December 2018 08: 56
        Considering that you could not live under Stalin, then probably all your relatives were born and raised in the Gulag, since you talk so enthusiastically about life behind bars laughing
        1. +2
          27 December 2018 10: 18
          You should not get involved in a controversy with brainless trolls and just miserable people.
          1. +3
            27 December 2018 11: 15
            Well, if this nonsense is not commented on, they may have the illusion of tacit consent, which should not be allowed, otherwise they will become proud of their stupid fabrications laughing
  6. +17
    26 December 2018 15: 38
    By the way, who read the old children's books of the 50s, published by the Detgiz publishing house (state children's publishing house)? Such wonderful books have been I will report to you. On excellent coated paper, bound in cloth with gold embossing, although very dilapidated from overreading. It was so interesting to read them, everything was presented in an excellent accessible language. Subsequent editions were no longer so interesting and sometimes with large cuts in the text.
    1. +13
      26 December 2018 19: 10
      I read, I especially liked the Library of Adventures and Science Fiction *! Excellent books! My classmates and I constantly exchanged them, read them, gave them to a friend, and he gave you another one.
  7. +5
    26 December 2018 15: 44
    Yes, you won't be bored here. Stalin and Russia exist, but where is the USSR? Damn, the fruits of modern dedication.
  8. +2
    26 December 2018 15: 54
    Yes, the author is right in many ways ... but politically correct - everything was much worse. Although the country received an atomic bomb, the plow also remained, like the huge space between them ... filled with people from the plow in the worst sense, the last of them is the Stavropol combine operator, but there were no others ..., Stalin is worthy of sincere admiration for what these "cadres" managed to make at least somehow work, and they did work ..., the remarks about the "negative" selection are fair, but there was no one and nothing to choose from ..., the intelligentsia withdrew itself ..., had to do without her, guards instead of psychologists - this is the fault of the intelligentsia ... although guards have proven their effectiveness ...
  9. +18
    26 December 2018 15: 57
    Quote: Fitter65
    Quote: Bull Terrier
    my great-grandfather, who was shot in 37, probably, seeing how I read this, turned over in his grave ...

    And why was he shot? Let's have a plaintive story about the evil GPU-NKVD officers here slap us. And judging by how much scum ran to help the Nazis, it turns out that the NKVD did not work well, how many were not shot. And then somehow they showed on TV, on the day of remembrance of the victims of repression, two unfortunate daughters who were innocently shot, although according to these "daughters" it turned out that they were born a little later than the mothers were shot, but these are trifles ... Yes, and how do you know what your grandfather was shot? After all, the whole family of the repressed, according to the statement of the liberals, was also all repressed, and they all necessarily died of hunger in the camps, so you should not have been, according to what our liberalists are talking about, shitting on our past. You are also from that cohort, shitting on the past of our (not your) country?

    There is an interesting study. A survey was conducted among prisoners about the degree of guilt. Why was the person imprisoned? Several thousand prisoners took part in the survey. 97% of the prisoners declared their complete innocence. So it was during the repressions during the years of Stalin - everyone there was innocent. Yeah ... If you dig, many were not so innocent.
    1. -17
      26 December 2018 17: 13
      Solzhenitsyn has a short story about how the guards ask a newcomer why they put him in jail. He says "no way". Guards: "uh, you're lying, they give ten for "nothing", and you have 25"
    2. +7
      26 December 2018 21: 29
      Quote: Selin Andrey
      There is an interesting study. A survey was conducted among prisoners about the degree of guilt. Why was the person imprisoned? Several thousand prisoners took part in the survey. 97% of the prisoners declared their complete innocence. So it was during the repressions during the years of Stalin - everyone there was innocent. Yeah ... If you dig, many were not so innocent.


      My great-uncle is one of the few, probably, who considered himself guilty, although modern people would not consider themselves as such for sure. The infamous 2nd Shock, encirclement, captivity. The camp was liberated by our special department, 10 years of camps. Like this. But he considered himself guilty, not Stalin. So who is brought up.
  10. +5
    26 December 2018 16: 05
    Beginning of the article good even in the history books. But, in continuation, I would like more specifics (especially monetary policy) and less pathos. Yes
  11. +16
    26 December 2018 16: 15
    We remember the competition for the name of Russia, and what, the authorities saw with horror that Stalin was in 1st place and chose the semi-mythical Nevsky
  12. +11
    26 December 2018 16: 21
    The economic mechanism of Russia in the 1920s, a mixture of weak administrative planning and a speculative market, could not ensure not only a breakthrough, but also normal development. There was a merging of the rapidly growing Soviet bureaucracy and speculators, the criminal world, which experienced its heyday on the ruins of the empire. There was no hope for outside investment. Soviet Russia was in international isolation. At the same time, foreigners were happy to create a semi-colonial economic model in Russia, to gain control over existing enterprises, mines, and mineral deposits.
    This is where we fell during the years of the rule of liberal thieves.
  13. +10
    26 December 2018 16: 36
    Under Stalin, some designer was called and he was asked to create production and lead it. Everything required was given and ... God forbid not to meet the deadline or exceed the cost estimate ... Half of today's effective managers would be shot, and the other half would build a bridge to Sakhalin, led by ... stop in general with those to whom it was entrusted, who stood at the head. And Stalin himself, like a child, rejoiced at everything new that appeared in the USSR and was advanced at that time. He would never have given the Heroes of the Soviet Union for not introducing 37 nuclear power units. And for participating in ... I won’t continue further - who is smart will understand.
    1. rx.
      -15
      26 December 2018 17: 14
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Under Stalin, some designer was called and he was asked to create production and lead it. Everything required was given and ... God forbid not to meet the deadline or exceed the cost estimate ...

      Yeah. All artillery designers were shot. Makhanov, Tagunov, Syachentov. These are just the ones that came to mind first.
      As a result, Grabin remained, who was far from the best of them. Very far away. And Petrov, who did things so-so.
      As a result, they actually fought with artillery in WW1. But not at the level of WW2.
      By the way, Tagunov must be thanked for the 85 mm tank and anti-aircraft guns (and for the 85 mm caliber in general). And they shot him for it. Nothing can be done, socialism.
    2. -2
      26 December 2018 17: 24
      Who is it and according to what approved program did not introduce 37 nuclear power units?
  14. +10
    26 December 2018 17: 01
    Well, you have to be such a HUMAN in order to dare and take the country broken into dust on your shoulders! And he, as can be seen from his life, did not dream of wealth.
    1. rx.
      -10
      26 December 2018 17: 09
      Quote from avi1301
      Well, you have to be such a HUMAN in order to dare and take the country broken into dust on your shoulders!

      What country was this "broken to dust"? USSR arr. 1927?
      You would do well to learn a little.
      Quote from avi1301
      And he, as can be seen from his life, did not dream of wealth.

      He had enough. The USSR with all its factories, subsoil, collective farms, little people, sheep and cockroaches cost a lot.
      1. 0
        27 December 2018 13: 29
        He had enough. The USSR with all its factories, subsoil, collective farms, little people, sheep and cockroaches cost a lot.

        Offended by life and on all RX. Stop writing nonsense. Just make people laugh.
        Especially for you.

        On March 5, 1953, at 22:30 p.m., I, the commandant of the Near Dacha Orlov, the senior attached Starostin, assistant Tukov, Butusov’s employee, compiled an inventory of the l / property of Comrade Stalin I.V. at the direction of Comrade Beria.

        1. Notebook for notes, in a cover from a skin of gray color;

        2. Notebook, leather, red;

        3. Personal notes, notes drawn up on separate sheets and tear-off sheets. Numbered a total of 67 sheets (sixty-seven);

        4. General notebook with notes, red cover;

        5. Smoking pipes - 5 pcs. To them: 4 boxes and specials. devices, tobacco. In Comrade Stalin’s office: books, desk accessories, souvenirs are not included in the list.

        Bedroom and wardrobe:

        6. White tunic - 2 pcs. (The star of the Hero of Socialist Labor is attached to both).

        7. The tunic is gray, semi-daily - 2 pcs .;

        8. The tunic is dark green - 2 pcs .;

        9. Pants - 10;

        10. The underwear is folded into a box under No. 2.

        The box under No. 3 contains: 6 tunics, 10 trousers, 4 overcoats, 4 caps. Box number 1 contains notebooks, notebooks, personal notes. Bath and shower accessories are packed in box No. 4. Other property belonging to Comrade Stalin was not included in the inventory. A savings book was found in the bedroom, it contained 900 rubles. The end time for compiling the inventory and the document is 0 hours 45 minutes on March 6, 1953.

        Present: (signature) ORLOV (signature) STAROSTIN (signature) TUKOV (signature) BUTUSOV.

        The other property was a desktop alarm clock in the form of a fox (with a broken ear). Stalin also had a table figurine donated by Roosevelt.

        And the most important thing. After himself, Joseph Vissarionovich left the Superpower at the peak of his power.
        1. rx.
          -3
          27 December 2018 14: 07
          Quote: Tashkent
          Stalin also had a table figurine donated by Roosevelt.

          And also the USSR (with all the giblets, including the commandant and comrade Beria), won back from the "old Bolsheviks" in their favor. But for some reason the USSR was not included in the inventory.
          Quote: Tashkent
          And the most important thing. After himself, Joseph Vissarionovich left the Superpower at the peak of his power.

          After himself, Dzhugashvili left a country half-destroyed by the war with a very thinned population.
          And most importantly, he left behind a cancerous tumor of "socialism". Which strangled people for another 38 years after the death of the main ghoul.
  15. +10
    26 December 2018 17: 12
    "Everything is returning to normal" - a person will come who will continue Stalin's work and bring it to the end (most likely it will be successively several politicians of the new formation). Putin's words that society will not accept socialism from the evil one. Under real socialism, as theorists understood it, no one lived, the country was ruined earlier (an attempt to close the project). All the same, they will return to the implementation of the socialist project. The logic of the development of the state. hi
    1. -12
      26 December 2018 18: 29
      All the same, they will return to the implementation of the socialist project. 

      There is no socialist project: everything rotted and fell apart. But there are people with a short memory who are ready to step on the same rake again and again.
      1. rx.
        -8
        26 December 2018 19: 08
        Quote: Nick_R
        There is no socialist project: everything rotted and fell apart. But there are people with a short memory who are ready to step on the same rake again and again.

        Briefly and to the point.
    2. -6
      26 December 2018 23: 17
      Under real socialism, as theorists understood it, no one lived 

      Have you tried to wonder why? Maybe the answer is on the surface: because theorists were wrong in their fantasies, but were banal utopians.
    3. 0
      27 December 2018 15: 00
      Is there at least one society on planet Earth that has adopted socialism? Name at least one ..... North Korea? But there, in words, there is no exploitation of man by man, but we have the exploitation of an absolutely disenfranchised man by the state.
      It's ridiculous to say about society and public institutions in S. Korea - there is complete Juche. So bring the fire of the world revolution to hell - outside of Russia, experiment there.
      1. +2
        28 December 2018 02: 48
        Quote: Vladimirsky
        Is there at least one society on planet Earth that has adopted socialism? Name at least one ..... North Korea?

        Well, for now, Cuba and Venezuela. I don't know how long to last. China is long gone, although legally it is still communist.
        And in North Korea - there is not communism, and not socialism, there is the dominance of a totalitarian artificially invented sect - Juche, which ensures the power of the Kim clan over one, separately taken state.
        1. +1
          28 December 2018 18: 19
          Quote: Warrior2015
          Well, for now, Cuba and Venezuela.

          You are mistaken, at the end of May 2016, the Cuban authorities announced the legalization of private small and medium-sized businesses, so we can say that socialism in Cuba is declarative.
          As for Venezuela - past, it has never been socialist. Hugo Chavez tried to "push through" the social. development of the state - but in a referendum held on December 2, 2007, citizens voted AGAINST.
    4. 0
      27 December 2018 15: 01
      Quote: pepel
      Putin's catch that society will not accept socialism from the evil one. Under real socialism, as theorists understood it, no one lived, the country was ruined earlier (an attempt to close the project).

      Is there at least one society on planet Earth that has adopted socialism? Name at least one ..... North Korea? But there, in words, there is no exploitation of man by man, but we have the exploitation of an absolutely disenfranchised man by the state.
      It's ridiculous to say about society and public institutions in S. Korea - there is complete Juche. So bring the fire of the world revolution to hell - outside of Russia, experiment there.
  16. +6
    26 December 2018 17: 50
    Quote: Bull Terrier
    my great-grandfather, who was shot in 37, probably, seeing how I read this, turned over in his grave ...

    Life is multifaceted and in the time of our grandfathers, fathers, local authorities were not only smart and disinterested people who believed in this dream, but also a lot of people who stuck around and arranged a beautiful life for themselves against the backdrop of difficulties. Are there none today? And the neighbors, who wanted to grab square meters or avenge some offense, were gone. And in the internal organs there were also such, besides, they were not very literate. Hence such costs, but many fell under the rink. There are many reasons for this, but there are many to forget about the titanic efforts of I.V. Stalin in the revival of the country, and the fact that Russia exists today is his merit.
    It is by the victims of the people that the existence of an independent people is justified. So it has always been and so it will always be. And what was somehow different in other countries? Even when there were no revolutions, but there was an economic crisis, at least the same in the USA in the 30s. Those to whom bread was dearer than freedom and independence simply turned into colonies that ensured the prosperity of the colonialists. Had it not been for victory in the Second World War, Russia would have ceased to exist, and in the West there was not even the current pseudo-democracy either, but there would have been planetary fascism. hi
  17. -14
    26 December 2018 18: 01
    Stalin and Holy Rus'?!,, wassat ...This is too much!
    A prolific author should have refrained from confusing the incompatible. What does Stalin have to do with Russia? With the exception of the years of the War, this politician eradicated everything Russian. The cruel cosmopolitan-Russophobe has always solved the problems of other peoples at the expense of the Russian people and the culture of Russia.
    1. -8
      26 December 2018 18: 36
      Yes, for general development, the author should have read how Stalin shot and imprisoned clergy and believers, plundered temples at first under the pretext of helping the starving people of the Volga region (while exporting bread to Germany), and then just like that. And only during the war years, fearing that after a series of miscalculations and defeats the people would throw him off, Stalin began to flirt with the church. After the war, they continued to actively imprison for their faith, though now mostly Catholics from the newly acquired territories and various sectarians
      1. -2
        27 December 2018 13: 34
        Yes, for general development, the author should have read how Stalin shot and imprisoned clergy and believers, plundered temples at first under the pretext of helping the starving people of the Volga region (while exporting bread to Germany), and then just like that.

        I have a question: Did you personally shoot and rob? From a service mortar at point-blank range? And it is not clear that "then just like that"?
        Please clarify.
        1. 0
          28 December 2018 15: 36
          No, he had enough performers like you for this.
    2. +10
      26 December 2018 18: 56
      Quote: samarin1969
      With the exception of the years of the War, this politician eradicated everything Russian. The cruel cosmopolitan-Russophobe has always solved the problems of other peoples at the expense of the Russian people and the culture of Russia.

      When Stalin came to power, the population of the RSFSR was about 103, in 500 the population of the RSFSR was 000. Despite the losses in the Second World War, which, according to various sources, amounted to 1953 people, the population increased by more than 106 million people. And with "favorable" development in 715, the population of the Russian Federation amounted to 000, and today - 26 ... belay If we subtract the population of the Crimea that joined in 2014, then the oil painting ... So who and how solved the problems of the peoples? We have an interesting national composition of the city of Moscow, one of several subjects of the Russian Federation where the population has increased. Just don't be happy:
      Russians - 31%
      Azerbaijanis - 14%
      Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs - 10%
      Ukrainians - 8%
      Armenians - 5%
      Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%
      Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 5%
      Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush - 4%
      Belarusians - 3%
      Georgians - 3%
      Moldovans - 3%
      gypsies - 3%
      Jews - 2%
      other nations - 4%

      The Russian population is less than a third. Sorry, but only numbers and facts.
      1. -4
        26 December 2018 20: 32
        Despite the losses in the Second World War, which, according to various sources, amounted to 26 people, the population increased by more than 600 million people

        Who taught you to count like that? You take the population of the RSFSR, and subtract the losses in the war of the entire USSR. Then it is clear where you got 14% of Azerbaijanis in Moscow.
      2. 0
        26 December 2018 22: 17
        You are citing falsified data on the national composition of the population of Moscow.
      3. -5
        27 December 2018 01: 31
        Judging by the latest "calculation" of Putin, our population is already 160 million, taking into account those who come and go for a year. And yes, it is necessary to count on the population of the RSFSR in the period from 17 to 53 years.
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      -3
      26 December 2018 19: 11
      Quote: samarin1969
      Stalin and Holy Rus'?!,, wassat ... This is already too much!
      A prolific author should have refrained from confusing the incompatible.

      Isn't the title "How Stalin Saved Russia" from this series? From this one.
      The arrogance is immeasurable and unparalleled.
      Quote: samarin1969
      The cruel cosmopolitan-Russophobe has always solved the problems of other peoples at the expense of the Russian people and the culture of Russia.

      So the site is frankly pro-Soviet, and therefore Russophobic. What else to expect?
      1. -1
        27 December 2018 09: 57
        So the site is frankly pro-Soviet, and therefore Russophobic. What else to expect?

        Well, what are you doing here then? They ban you every day, and you again emerge like feces in a hole and let's defecate your nonsense here again. Or do you have to earn a salary, otherwise you will swell from hunger? Confess we sympathize laughing
    4. +2
      27 December 2018 09: 50
      Yes you? And so in 45 this "cruel cosmopolitan Russophobe" said the following:
      As a representative of our Soviet Government, I would like to raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people and, above all, the Russian people.
      I drink, above all, for the health of the Russian people because it is the most prominent nation of all the nations that make up the Soviet Union.
      I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people because they have earned in this war and earlier earned the title, if you like, of the leading force of our Soviet Union among all the peoples of our country.

      Well, is it normal that many republics lived normally, thanks to help from the Russian people, or is helping the poor bad? Russia has never oppressed its colonies as the West has always done. Russia brought civilization and help to the needy even before Stalin.
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        -1
        27 December 2018 10: 03
        Quote: flint
        And so in 45 this "cruel cosmopolitan Russophobe" said the following:

        What difference does it make what he said? What matters is what he did.
        Quote: flint
        Russia has never oppressed its colonies as the West has always done. Russia brought civilization and help to the needy even before Stalin.

        And what did the USSR have to do with Russia?
        1. -1
          27 December 2018 11: 58
          It really doesn’t matter what he said there, he didn’t engage in chatter, he did and did so much that no one before him or after him did more for Russia than he did. And there is no need to carry nonsense here about the billions and trillions of victims of which he is allegedly guilty and similar nonsense - you leave it for sick people who are deprived of their minds.
          And what did the USSR have to do with Russia?

          Direct. Changing the name does not change the essence.
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            -1
            27 December 2018 12: 06
            Quote: flint
            what difference does it make what he said there, he did not chatter, he did

            It would be better not to do anything. It would be better to die a little. Still in the sperm phase.
            Quote: flint
            that neither before nor after him did anyone do more for Russia than he did.

            The Bolsheviks (first the Old Bolsheviks, and then the Stalinist Bolsheviks) destroyed Russia. Remember this well. Since 1918, Russia has not existed. And the RSFSR is not Russia.
            Quote: flint
            Changing the name does not change the essence.

            It was not a name change. It was a change in essence.
            There has never been a more Russophobic regime on the territory of Russia.
            1. 0
              27 December 2018 13: 20
              It would be better not to do anything. It would be better to die a little. Still in the sperm phase.
              It would be better if this happened to those who were really involved in the collapse of the Russian Empire, namely, any liberal trash in the then Duma, which, on the instructions of some large industrialists, staged this whole "sabbath about democracies and freedoms" and, as a result, screwed up and plunged the country into a wild abyss - that's this is what you remember. And the Bolsheviks had to restore order in the vast territories plunged into civil war, intervention, etc. and so on.
              Since 1918, Russia has not existed. And the RSFSR is not Russia.

              For me, Russia is starting from Ladoga Rus, Novgorod, Kyiv, Vladimir, Moscow and to the present time it is one state.
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                -1
                27 December 2018 13: 24
                Quote: flint
                It would be better if this happened to those who are really involved in the collapse of the Russian Empire

                Are you hinting at Ulyanov, Bronstein and other Sverdlov?
                Quote: flint
                And the Bolsheviks had to restore order in the vast territories plunged into civil war, intervention, etc. and so on.

                We know their "order". It was cleaner than the Nazi.
                Quote: flint
                For me, Russia is starting from Ladoga Rus, Novgorod, Kyiv, Vladimir, Moscow and to the present time it is one state.

                And there's a hole in the middle. In the form of first the RSFSR, and then the USSR. There was no Russia then. Didn't exist. Killed in the Civil War.
                1. 0
                  27 December 2018 14: 18
                  Are you hinting at Ulyanov, Bronstein and other Sverdlov?
                  I’m not hinting, but talking about the tsar and his entourage, who plunged the country into two completely stupid wars for the country - one lost, and the second murderous, then about the liberally empty-headed and democratically empty-headed bourgeoisie, whose policies the country was plunged into chaos and self-destruction. The Bolsheviks only took advantage of the fruits of the labors of the above-mentioned "patriots".
                  We know their "order". It was cleaner than the Nazi.
                  The usual order of those times - no worse and no better than others.
                  And there's a hole in the middle. In the form of first the RSFSR, and then the USSR. There was no Russia then. Didn't exist. Killed in the Civil War.

                  A hole in your head, and the wind whistles through it ....
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                    0
                    27 December 2018 14: 25
                    Quote: flint
                    I'm not hinting, but talking about the king and his entourage

                    Tsar ruined Russia?
                    Have you had a drink today?
                    Quote: flint
                    The Bolsheviks only took advantage of the fruits of the labors of the above-mentioned "patriots".

                    In fact, the Bolsheviks took advantage of the work (I think premature) of Russian revolutionaries. Google the names yourself, many of them were part of the Provisional Government.
                    Taking advantage of the war and their weakness in connection with this, they carried out a counter-revolutionary armed coup (putsch). Therefore, the Bolsheviks were (to choose from) reactionaries, konriks, or putschists. But they weren't revolutionaries.
                    Quote: flint
                    The usual order of those times - no worse and no better than others.

                    Who told you that?
                    1. +1
                      27 December 2018 15: 05
                      Tsar ruined Russia?
                      Have you had a drink today?

                      I don’t drink it once, but twice, and who bears the main responsibility for the collapse of the state, if not the main official with all the mental and inconceivable powers? I want to remind you that we had an absolute monarchy in Russia - autocracy. Everything else I will not even discuss - as always, absolute nonsense.
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                        0
                        27 December 2018 17: 14
                        Quote: flint
                        I don't drink at all

                        But this is very suspicious by Russian standards.
                        Quote: flint
                        and who bears the main responsibility for the collapse of the state, if not the main official with all mental and inconceivable powers?

                        Former Chief Executive.
                        Nicholas II was replaced by Michael I. Albeit not for long, but he did.
                        Michael I transferred full power to the Provisional Government. This ended the autocracy in Russia, and the bourgeois revolution (by peaceful means) happened.
                        The provisional government was overthrown by the Bolsheviks (the initial phase of the Bolshevik counter-revolutionary putsch).
                        The Constituent Assembly was dispersed by the Bolsheviks (the final phase of the Bolshevik counter-revolutionary putsch).
                        After the seizure of power by the Bolsheviks in 1918, the collapse of Russia began, because. the national outskirts of power did not recognize these impostors.
                        But Nicholas II is to blame for everything?
                      2. +1
                        27 December 2018 18: 49
                        But this is very suspicious by Russian standards.

                        I don't drink by Russian standards.
                        And who and what forced Nicholas 2 to give power to his brother? “There is treason, cowardice and deceit all around,” is it how you should have tried to bring the country to such an end that everyone around was eager for your resignation? It was Nicholas 2 Spineless who was responsible for the collapse of the Russian Empire. Everything else is unimportant.
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                        0
                        27 December 2018 21: 55
                        Quote: flint
                        And who and what forced Nicholas 2 to give power to his brother? “There is treason, cowardice and deceit all around,” is it how you should have tried to bring the country to such an end that everyone around was eager for your resignation?

                        Dear, do you even know what the evolution of human society is and, as a result, the change of the OEF?
                        Are you even aware that this is an INEVITABLE process? Like a sunrise. Otherwise humanity would still be living in caves.
                        Do you know anything other than whining about the "good times that are gone" in this life?
                        Do not know.
                        Here, be quiet.
                        Excuse me, but you got it. It doesn’t fit in my head at all, how you can resist progress and development. And call for a return back, to degradation.
                      4. +1
                        27 December 2018 23: 14
                        Judging by your rating, you have already got everyone on this portal with your nonsense, and more than once. They ban you, you crawl back out, but I wonder for what purpose? If you would go to the echo of matzah, you would be welcome there. I even feel sorry for you, they kick you, and you climb again.
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                        +1
                        27 December 2018 23: 22
                        Quote: flint
                        Based on your rating

                        You need to say such funny things from the stage. For money.
                        Quote: flint
                        I even feel sorry for you, they kick you, and you climb again.

                        Are they kicking? Who kicks me?
                        No, no one has ever kicked me and will never kick me. Don't wait.
                        But the overseer may even put you on the ridge more than once with a rubber stick. If you still achieve the arrival of your "bright future in the Soviet way."
                        You will plow like Papa Carlo. For soldering gruel with rotten cabbage and a place on the bunk. That's when you and others like you will start pulling the hair out of your ass. But it will be too late.
                      6. +1
                        27 December 2018 23: 59
                        But the overseer may even put you on the ridge more than once with a rubber stick. If you still achieve the arrival of your "bright future in the Soviet way."
                        You will plow like Papa Carlo. For soldering gruel with rotten cabbage and a place on the bunk. That's when you and others like you will start pulling the hair out of your ass. But it will be too late.
                        laughing
                        What passions! You see, you have already experienced all this, since you talk so picturesquely - poor fellow laughing
                      7. +2
                        28 December 2018 02: 54
                        Quote from RX.
                        Nicholas II was replaced by Michael I. Albeit not for long, but he did.
                        Michael I transferred full power to the Provisional Government. This ended the autocracy in Russia, and the bourgeois revolution (by peaceful means) happened.

                        Only Michael II (as it was inscribed on one of the banners dedicated to him), the first was Mikhail Romanov, the founder of the dynasty.
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            -4
            27 December 2018 12: 13
            Quote from avi1301
            Other b-sky republics were subsidized at the expense of Russia.

            Nothing like this happened at the expense of Russia. This happened at the expense of the RSFSR.
            Quote from avi1301
            Read something, smart guy.

            Is that what you said to yourself in the mirror?
      2. +1
        28 December 2018 02: 51
        Quote: flint
        Well, is it normal that many republics lived normally, thanks to help from the Russian people, or is helping the poor bad? Russia has never oppressed its colonies as the West has always done. Russia brought civilization and help to the needy even before Stalin.

        The problem is that under the USSR, all attention was paid to the national outskirts, and they lived much better than the indigenous, central regions of historical Russia. I, as a representative of the Russian people, and living in its central part, consider such a national policy flawed and leading to degradation (and we actually see its sad results after 1991).
  18. +7
    26 December 2018 18: 14
    as always, the truth is somewhere in the middle, but still let the anti-Soviet explain who and how, in their opinion, could defeat Nazi Germany in those conditions and resist the West with an atomic bomb
    1. +11
      26 December 2018 19: 06
      Quote: rayruav
      but still let the anti-Soviet explain who and how

      Why explain? There is a historical example. Hitler saddled Europe in a year and a half. If not for the USSR, everyone would speak German there ... of those who would have stayed. It was the socialist path of development that helped our country overcome the powerful military machine of the Wehrmacht. I said in previous posts that the front-line soldiers said that they went on the attack shouting: "For the Motherland! For Stalin!" These are not some stories about watches and daggers. Everything is true here. You can ask the veterans on May 9th. Today I don’t know if they will come with shouts: “For ...!”? Or, dying, they will be asked to consider themselves United Russia? I doubt. I really don't believe... No.
    2. +3
      26 December 2018 21: 09
      The enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR are people stupidly, irrationally AGAINST. It is useless to expect from them not only the truth, but also elementary logic and common sense. None of them is capable of discussion.
      Here, they rage against what the Soviet communists and their supporters did for the country and the people, while knowing full well that they are NOT able to prove that the Romanovs and the bourgeoisie, and they themselves, after the capture of the republics of the USSR, did at least something better for the country and the people.
  19. +12
    26 December 2018 18: 36
    I.V. Stalin:
    “I know that after death a lot of garbage will be put on my grave. But the wind of History will mercilessly dispel it. ”
    The wind is slowly picking up...
    1. +5
      26 December 2018 19: 10
      Quote: Evil Echo
      The wind is slowly picking up...

      So far - the calm before the storm (New Year). If the people see that the authorities are pretending to listen to the opinion of citizens, that they are working for the good of the Fatherland, then the wind may rise again.
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      -12
      26 December 2018 19: 14
      Quote: Evil Echo
      The wind is slowly picking up...

      And do not hope. After the trial of "socialism", even the grave will most likely be razed to the ground. Such people used to be buried outside the cemetery fence.
      1. +2
        26 December 2018 20: 54
        And who is interested in organizing this "court"? laughing
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          27 December 2018 12: 22
          Quote: flint
          And who is interested in organizing this "court"?

          I don't know, I'm not Wang's grandmother.
          The trial of Nazism was. And above socialism, too, should be. Wait.
          1. +1
            27 December 2018 16: 58
            In order for such a trial to take place, it is necessary, firstly, that Russia should not become, and secondly, that the majority should not be people who sensibly and adequately perceive the history of their country, but there would be a majority of stupid Russophobes and anti-Stalinists who, as a rule, do not they think sensibly, but stupidly repeat the manuals of liberals and Western scoundrels. So wait, you can put on the drum in advance and take the flag in your hands!
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              -1
              27 December 2018 17: 04
              Quote: flint
              In order for such a court to take place, it is necessary that, firstly, Russia does not become

              It is in Russia that it will be held. Do not doubt.
              Quote: flint
              but it would be the majority of stupid Russophobes

              Do you mean owls?
              In general, devastation, it is in the minds. In particular, it seems that in yours.
              1. 0
                27 December 2018 19: 37
                Do you mean owls?

                You are so narrow-minded that you do not understand not just hints, but specific words. Severe case - does not seem to be cured laughing
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          27 December 2018 12: 21
          Quote from avi1301
          PIG you are uneducated!!

          Come on, come on, goodbye.
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  20. +2
    26 December 2018 18: 42
    Well, what else is a red emperor? And why is it interesting that Marxism became pseudo-communism?
    1. +1
      26 December 2018 18: 46
      it is good that the inquisitive minds of contemporaries are digging in this direction. over time, their knowledge will be enough to answer most of the questions of the past, and in time they will be able to develop the modern language of the left movement. I believe in it more and more. a lot of people just need a little help.
  21. 0
    26 December 2018 18: 51
    I do not see the answer to the question "How?". The article starts with this. The question is still open.
  22. -6
    26 December 2018 19: 25
    As soon as the GDP said in 2009 that Stalin was not so bad after all, such articles about the good father of nations began to multiply. Do they really think people are so backward?
    How can you write such a thing about an executioner?
    1. 0
      26 December 2018 19: 40
      In the film "Tsar" as a person, I'm wrong, but as the Sovereign, I'm right. AND?
    2. +2
      26 December 2018 21: 01
      Just a benefactor of the anti-Soviet clique that inflicted huge material, human / demographic, historical, territorial, moral, reputational damage on Russia and the Russian people - Putin first decided to rule on the principle of "both ours and yours", and "red" and "white", and that everything became whiter and whiter.
  23. +2
    26 December 2018 21: 04
    The enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR are in EVERYTHING an anomaly of humanity, including the fact that they, unlike all peoples in the world, including the Soviet communists and their supporters, have NO positive history of their country, only vicious, aggressive, delusional, slanderous ANTI-Soviet / Russo-PHOBIA.
  24. -5
    26 December 2018 21: 07
    Stalinism and alcoholism have a lot in common.
    1. +1
      28 December 2018 10: 11
      During the life of Stalin, I did not see alcoholics, despite the fact that at almost every intersection of streets there was a stall with alcoholic beverages (cognac, vodka, wines, liquors, etc.) and snacks (sandwiches with black and red caviar, with sausage, with bacon or ham, etc.). Alcohol could be ordered in any quantity - from 25 grams to full. People hurried to work in the morning, those who wanted to overturned 50-100 gr. and moved on. But there were no alcoholics. This was observed from the time of the monetary reform of 1947 until the beginning of Khrushchev's rule.
  25. +6
    26 December 2018 21: 18
    If I.V. STALIN had not created the great country of the USSR, then most of us simply would not be in this world. Perhaps the traitors-liberals in the service of the capitalists would have survived. I believe that anyone who opposes Stalin is an enemy of humanity. Only Stalin was able to create a powerful state from the ruins of the Russian Empire, which defended and strengthened peace on Earth.
    1. -2
      26 December 2018 21: 39
      Quote: efimich41
      If I.V. STALIN had not created the great country of the USSR, then most of us simply would not be in this world.

      I will answer simply and briefly - the USSR that many of us remember, and for which some of us have nostalgia, was NOT created by STALIN, on the contrary, the late USSR was created by Stalin's enemies - Khrushchev and his followers, who were more than officially not Stalinists, and did not continue his course, and that's the only reason people could somehow live!
      1. 0
        27 December 2018 10: 13
        Khrushchev and his followers disintegrated the entire ruling elite of the USSR, made it possible for the Nazis to feel like bais and princelings, made it possible for shadow businesses to appear and grow stronger, under them corruption began to bloom and smell, and Stalin’s enemies did a lot to ensure that the powerful state created under Stalin's leadership collapsed in one moment.
    2. +5
      26 December 2018 21: 44
      And all Stalinophobia are the same. Just as some of them ran in millions to grovel before the Nazis, so others after 40 years seizing the republics of the USSR immediately ran to put them and their peoples under the enemy of their country, the anti-Soviet-Russophobic West.
  26. 0
    26 December 2018 21: 22
    STALIN!!!!!!!!!
  27. 0
    26 December 2018 21: 26
    that so many "brand new ones" have come running! did you give the command fas?
  28. -7
    26 December 2018 21: 29
    Something has recently become a lot of exculpatory publications about this bloody executioner.
    This pseudo "savior" brought blood, tears and mountains of corpses to the country.
    Stalin and his accomplices, "revolutionaries", brought the country to the state about which the author so laments. They destroyed, divided, shot and plundered the Great Empire (does not apply to the personality of some of the Romanovs).
    And now they write about it in the third person?! What - we don't know WHO did it? Why did it become fashionable to write about the terrible consequences of the February and October coups as if "unidentified persons" did it, and the "crisis manager" - Stalin had to rake it?
    And why does the author not write that the Western countries have gone so far into the lead, precisely because of the proletarian (dictatorship) policy? IM ("revolutionaries") did not get a country with a plow - Russia was in the leading positions in some economic indicators. And definitely developed. It was THEY (and Stalin among them) who returned the country 100 years ago AND NO ONE OTHER!
    And the Western countries made a leap forward, without many millions of innocent victims, without humiliating the dignity of educated, cultured and intelligent people. We still cannot get out of the cult of the gangster-criminal world. For decades, through the efforts of such Stalins, the expression "What is smart, is it?" - it became a humiliation and a definition of NOT YOUR person, not a proletarian type ....
    I also think that laying out such materials may be an attempt to raise (provoking an argument in the comments) in this way the rating and "readability". If so, then it is not worthy.
    1. +4
      26 December 2018 21: 47
      So, what did the Stalinophobes prove about themselves after Gorbachev gave them freedom of speech and surrendered the republics of the USSR to them?
      That ALL of them are pathological liars and hypocrites, who always pretend in life to be those who benefit them at the moment, with a mental propensity for slanderous accusations of crimes, enemies of their country of the people, who are against all the best for their country and people, criminals and in front of their country and people, and before the rule of law, and before the age-old rules and values ​​of mankind.
    2. +4
      27 December 2018 10: 41
      You are talking blatant nonsense. What did Stalin personally destroy the Russian Empire? Yes, Stalin at that time was in third roles (give - bring) in the Bolshevik Party, which itself was on the bird's rights in the then party hierarchy. The country was ruined by large industrialists and a pack of talkers and loafers eager for power, of which we always had enough in Rus'. Plus, a worthless tsar (a good man, of course, but who could not be allowed to approach the throne for a cannon shot). Well, then yes -
      They destroyed, divided, shot and plundered the Great Empire
      , which had to be restored by Stalin, who not only restored it, but also brought it to the level of the leading countries of the world. As for the multi-million victims, then present these claims to your idols - to Western countries, which, in order to get out of the great depression, nurtured and nurtured Hitler, set him on the USSR, and then profited from all subsequent events, receiving money from the Third Reich, so with the USSR, eventually raising their economies out of ruin and becoming economic monopolies over the whole world. It was our multimillion-dollar sacrifices that allowed them to make a leap forward. So speaking about the main culprits of the problems of our country in those days, you are looking in the wrong direction at all.
      1. 0
        27 December 2018 20: 13
        I will not argue about the role of Dzhugashvili in the terrorist movement of "revolutionaries", but for sure - he had a hand in this. It is unlikely that he was offered from "third roles" to immediately replace another executioner (Ulyanov). And if I remember history correctly, it was the Bolshevik Party that celebrated the victory, and was not "on the bird's rights." Do not belittle the "merits" of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) - it was they who overthrew the old system and took upon themselves the responsibility for the consequences of this event. And now they have nothing to do with it?! Only the strong admit their mistakes.
        Western countries are not my idols. If there are no arguments, then do not be humiliated by the transition to personalities with attribution of what is not.
        Your entire text is demagogy. And the FACTS are as follows: during the reign of Stalin, the USSR suffered millions of victims. And there is no excuse for this. The excuse "the tsar did not know what the boyars were doing" does not work. He was in charge of this whole pack - that means he should be responsible. There is nothing to discuss here.
        There is no point in arguing about who set on whom: there are diametrically different points of view. Personally, I don't support any of them. The situation was difficult both in the world and in the country.
        In order to learn useful lessons from the past, one must look for problems in oneself (so as not to repeat mistakes), and not appoint the guilty on the side.
        1. +2
          27 December 2018 22: 42
          All your text is demagoguery

          You see, you have studied history for a very long time, if you do not remember elementary things. To begin with, remember who made the February revolution (coup), it was not the great October socialist revolution, but rather the bourgeois one, in which the Bolsheviks did not take any part because there were not many of them anyway, and they were either in prison, or in immigration, who are in the deep underground because they were outlaws. As a result of the February coup, the tsar abdicated the throne, and power passed to the provisional government, which, with its decrees on complete freedom in the country, plunged it into complete chaos and collapse, which the Bolsheviks already took advantage of in October, having received the opportunity to leave the underground. At the time of the October Revolution, the country no longer existed, it had already begun to fall apart. So who toppled the old regime and plunged the empire into complete collapse, the loss of all national outskirts and further terrible civil war? As for the multimillion-dollar victims, it is indirectly possible to recognize Stalin's guilt only for the victims at the beginning of the Second World War, but by his actions during the Second World War, and even after, he fully atoned for his guilt by leading the country from a complete catastrophe 41 to a complete victory in the 45th. And for the next 7 years, the country was actively and successfully recovering from the terrible consequences under his leadership.
          To learn useful lessons from the past, you need to look for problems in yourself.

          To learn useful lessons from the past, you first need to know this past well, and not write incomprehensibly.
          1. -2
            29 December 2018 23: 07
            "The immediate result of the February Revolution was the abdication of the throne by Nicholas II, the end of the Romanov dynasty and the formation of the Provisional Government under the chairmanship of Prince Georgy Lvov. Almost simultaneously, revolutionary democratic forces formed a parallel body of power - the Petrograd Soviet - which led to a situation known as dual power" - Wikipedia.
            This is the story you need to learn. At least read Wikipedia before writing.
            Maybe it was the bourgeoisie that called on the soldiers from the front to leave and create soldiers' committees? Was it the bourgeoisie who raised the workers, artisans and soldiers of the garrison to the riots that started the February revolution? Pogroms also staged bourgeois? Historians, dammit...
            And who announced the Red Terror (when they were shot, buried alive, drowned and beaten to death by WHOLE FAMILIES - this is from the reports of the Cheka) who announced? What about collectivization? What about dispossession? Mass repressions (without disputes about the number of repressed - EVERYONE recognizes them), the GULAG is not a Stalinist product?
            And about the atonement of guilt by Stalin for the multimillion-dollar victims - you tell the relatives of the people he ruined. Does this mean that the soldiers in the trenches atoned for HIS GUILT, the repressed at the construction sites of the national economy (for which you are so happy), scientists in "characters" and children at the machines in the factories? It is their lives and labor that he means redeemed? And the catastrophe of 41-42 did not happen under his leadership (the most terrible losses during the Second World War)?
            Once again, to make it clear: I do not defend the Romanovs and I know all the positive things that happened in the USSR, but I am against glorifying the killer of millions of innocent people. He is not the savior of Russia.
            1. +1
              30 December 2018 12: 14
              Regarding Wikipedia, it seems that the expression "you look in a book, but you see a fig" is about you.
              [quote] a parallel authority - the Petrograd Soviet [/ quote [quote]] Maybe it was the bourgeoisie that called the soldiers from the front to leave and create soldiers' committees? Was it the bourgeoisie who raised the workers, artisans and soldiers of the garrison to the riots that started the February revolution? Pogroms also staged bourgeois? Historians, damn it [/ quote]
              (Petrograd Soviet, Petrosoviet) - a collegial representative body of power, created by secret order in Petrograd in the early days of the February Revolution and claiming supreme power not only in Petrograd, but throughout Russia [1]. Until the convening of the First All-Russian Congress of Soviets of Workers' and Soldiers' Deputies (June 3 (16) - June 24 (July 7), 1917), the Petrosoviet was the All-Russian center of revolutionary democracy, an organ of the revolutionary-democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry, based on armed force - the workers' militia and regular reserve regiments of the Petrograd Military District. The immediate predecessor of the Petrograd Soviet was the Working Group of the Central Military Industrial Committee (TsVPK), created Mensheviks. Here, together with members of the Menshevik faction of the Duma, representatives of other socialist parties, leaders of legal trade unions, cooperatives and other organizations, the Provisional Executive Committee of the Soviet of Workers' Deputies was formed - a body for convening the constituent assembly of the Soviet of Workers' Deputies. It included K. A. Gvozdev, B. O. Bogdanov (Mensheviks, leaders of the working group of the TsVPK), N. S. Chkheidze, M. I. Skobelev (deputies of the State Duma from the Menshevik faction), N. Yu. Kapelinsky, K. S. Grinevich (Shekhter) (Menshevik-internationalists), N. D. Sokolov (non-factional Social Democrat), G. M. Erlikh (Bund). There were no Bolsheviks in the Provisional Executive Committee.
              The first (constituent) meeting of the Petrosoviet opened in the Tauride Palace on February 27 (March 12) at 9 pm and ended on the night of February 28. At it, the initial composition of the permanent Executive Committee was elected and the appeal "To the population of Petrograd and Russia" was adopted, which stated:
              The Soviet of Workers' Deputies, which sits in the State Duma, sets as its main task the organization of the people's forces and the struggle for the final consolidation of political freedom and people's rule in Russia...
              We invite the entire population of the capital to immediately rally around the Council, form local committees in the districts and take control of all local affairs. All together, with common forces, we will fight for the complete elimination of the old government and the convocation of a Constituent Assembly elected on the basis of universal, equal, direct and secret suffrage.

              If you are able to understand what is written, then you will understand that it was not the Bolsheviks who organized the overthrow of state power and the subsequent collapse of the country, but then they skillfully took advantage of the mess and lack of intelligence and will to restore order to various liberal-democratic talkers who were then in power, and intercepted this power, but it was already much later - closer to autumn, and before that the country had already begun to disintegrate with might and main, with all the natural consequences.
              [quote] And the red terror [/ quote] What about the white terror? I can also angrily announce to you about executions and burying by the whites. Can you imagine what a civil war is like in such a huge country and how difficult it was to restore order in it? And with the end of the war, petty dirty tricks did not stop, later, during the NEP, a large number of people also divorced, who clearly were not on the side of the current government, hence the repressions, which in many ways, of course, are not justified, but I think they are necessary for the state. And Stalin really raised the country from the ruins and turned it into one of the strongest and most developed countries on the planet.
              1. +1
                30 December 2018 18: 03
                I suggest you use your head. And at least think a little.
                Bolsheviks and Mensheviks are representatives of the same political group, the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party, or RSDLP. The difference was only in the definition of a party member.
                By 1912, the final division of the RSDLP into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks took place, the paths of the ideologists of both directions diverged. The Bolshevik Party became known as the RSDLP (b).

                Before the February Revolution of 1917, the Bolsheviks were engaged in both legal and illegal types of social and political activities. They founded the newspaper Pravda. The Bolsheviks received several seats in the State Duma of the Russian Empire. After the outbreak of World War I, repressions began against the Bolsheviks - their faction in the State Duma was disbanded. But after the February Revolution, the Bolsheviks got a chance to return to the political arena. In March 1917 Pravda began to be printed again.

                These are the same "revolutionaries", with the same ideology. And the small letter "b" in the name did not change the essence much. The Mensheviks were considered a more moderate wing, compared to the "stoned" Bolsheviks.
                At the outbreak of the Civil War in 1917, the Mensheviks entered into a confrontation with the Bolsheviks, but were able to enter alongside them into the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, or All-Russian Central Executive Committee, the main body of power in the country in the first years after the revolution.
                Subsequently, your idols, the Bolsheviks, repressed all of them. And then they began to eat themselves. And the people inhabiting their country.
                As for terror - the Bolsheviks declared it officially - at the state level and according to historians, the "white terror" was declared in response and not on the same scale as the "red terror".
                About who undermined and overthrew the old government: Stalin, a member of the RSDLP, a supporter of the Bolsheviks, personally organized strikes, demonstrations and riots. He became the head of the Bolsheviks of Transcaucasia. For his active work AGAINST the authorities - he was repeatedly imprisoned and exiled (didn't participate, you say?). For ACTIVE inflammatory and subversive activities, he was in absentia (on the recommendation of Lenin) elected a member of the Central Committee. LEADS illegal work in St. Petersburg and the Bolshevik faction in the State Duma, as well as the newspapers Pravda and Zvezda. Actively engaged in the development of the ideology of Bolshevism, together with Lenin!
                Already in 1915, he and Lenin were discussing the transformation of the imperialist war into a Civil War (they didn’t ruin the army, you say?) !!! While Lenin lived in a hut, Stalin in July 1917 was the LEADER of the Central Committee of the party. Personally supervised the work of the 6th Congress. All his life he was engaged in the struggle against the king and competitors. He and others like him were professional "revolutionaries" (terrorists), who called for, planned and organized an armed seizure of power.
                How did they call themselves at the same time - Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, anarchists, etc. - not the point. It was they who blew up the kings and shot at the ministers. They trained and distributed weapons to the workers, organized demonstrations and strikes.
                1. +1
                  30 December 2018 19: 43
                  Oh how! Then you claim that it was the damned Bolsheviks who overthrew the tsar -
                  And if I remember history correctly, it was the Bolshevik Party that celebrated the victory, and was not "on the bird's rights." Do not belittle the "merits" of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) - it was they who overthrew the old system
                  , and now
                  how they called themselves at the same time - Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, anarchists, etc. - not the point.

                  This is precisely the point, because, firstly, in Russia at that time, all these personalities were virtually nobody - so small talkers, capable of, if only, some kind of filth, and secondly, no revolution can be carried out without a lot of money - the last an example of a Maidan (or do you think that this is a spontaneous impulse of the laboring masses that overthrew the bloody corrupt official Yanukovych?).
                  Therefore, the political crisis in Russia in February 1917 was provoked by liberals to overthrow tsarism. It was organized by the financial and industrial oligarchy, whose goal was to seize power in Russia under the slogans of introducing a constitution and creating a "people's government." The second task of this coup was the withdrawal of the Russian Empire from the First World War without the conquests it had achieved and without the solution of the Eastern Question promised by the Entente. The leaders of the liberals, as in 1904-1905, once again staked on the defeat of tsarism, now in the First World War. But unlike the first revolution, this time they had a government tribune of the State Duma. It became a powerful factor in the preparation of a new "democratic" revolution. The key organizer of the coup d'état in February 2017 was the Progressive Bloc of the IV State Duma. The members of this block were professor of history, leader of the Cadets (People's Freedom Party), editor of the magazine "Rech" P. N. Milyukov, Octobrists A. I. Guchkov and M. V. Rodzianko, and British Ambassador to Russia George William Buchanan.
                  The leader of the Progressive Bloc, Milyukov, in his letter himself took full responsibility for the coup d'etat: "But, of course, we must recognize that the moral responsibility for what happened lies with us, that is, with the bloc of parties in the State Duma." The Progressive Bloc included 236 Duma members out of 442 members of the State Duma, three factions of the State Council (center, academic group and non-partisan). Thus, the number of destroyers of Russia amounted to more than 300 people. They set the task of putting pressure on the government to carry out political reform to create a "government of trust" from members of the Progressive Bloc.
                  1. +1
                    31 December 2018 18: 31
                    I have already given you a link to Stalin's biography - as the hero of the article. And according to them it is quite clear that it was the radical Bolsheviks who actively (real) opposed the tsarist government. it was they who stirred up and raised the poor and the proletarians to riots (including armed ones), acts of terror, demonstrations, and so on. All this created that movement "from below" about which they said "the bottom does not want to."
                    It was the bourgeoisie who took advantage of the wave raised by the Bolsheviks. However, they lacked organization and experience in managing the insurgent masses of the illiterate people. But the Bolsheviks had such experience in abundance: hundreds of shares throughout the empire, the publication of revolutionary leaflets and even newspapers, an extensive network of cells with rich work experience and agents. They chose the right moment - by preparing and inflicting a decisive blow in October, against the already "loose" authorities.
                    And there are no contradictions in my reasoning - I still believe that it was the radical wing of the RSDLP that created a revolutionary situation in the country, ruined the army and industry. It is clear that they did not do this alone, they were very good at making alliances out of necessity: with the Mensheviks, anarchists, criminals, socialist-revolutionaries, various bombers ... the main thing is that it was useful for THEIR cause. It's all one big army of "revolutionaries". However, the Bolsheviks combined pragmatism, unscrupulousness and fanaticism in order to take a dominant position in the chaos created by common efforts.
                    The noble gentlemen of the bourgeoisie, with their pride, intelligence and disgust for the lower strata of society, would not have curtailed such a layer.
                    "But haven't we already paid too high a price, and we are still paying today, for this social experiment?
                    - Revolutions are not made in white gloves. As long as there is no violence against the masses, there is no other way to power. It is necessary to encourage the energy and mass character of terror. Mass searches. Shot for possession of a weapon. Merciless terror against the kulaks, priests and White Guards; Doubtful lock up in a concentration camp. To shoot conspirators and vacillators, without asking anyone and without allowing idiotic red tape. Make it so that for hundreds of miles around the people see, tremble. Let 90% of the Russian people perish, if only 10% survived until the world revolution.
                    That revolutionary is bad who, at the moment of acute struggle, stops before the inviolability of the law. If a law hinders the development of the revolution, it is repealed or amended. In the struggle for power, all means are good." - Lenin, Complete Works.
                    The bourgeois could not do that, therefore they could not take advantage of the revolt raised by the socialists and others like them.
                    I propose to stop this discussion. It is clear that everyone has their own point of view.
                    In conclusion: now there are also many who disagree with Putin's line, what - to the wall of everyone and into exile? As Stalin did and Lenin bequeathed: "They cut down the forest - the chips fly"? Rhetorical questions - no need to answer ....
                    God forbid anyone to be this sliver.
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          0
          30 December 2018 12: 49
          Quote: swyatoslav
          Do not belittle the "merits" of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) - it was they who overthrew the old system and took upon themselves the responsibility for the consequences of this event.

          Here it would be necessary to clarify that the autocracy (feudal OEF) in Russia was overthrown by Russian revolutionary patriots. But the bourgeois (capitalist OEF) society that was just born in Russia was already overthrown by the Bolsheviks. All this happened in less than 1 year. Moreover, if the movement from the feudal OEF to the capitalist one is a revolution, then the movement from the capitalist OEF back to the feudal one (and the NEP is a typical "new feudalism") is a reactionary coup (it is like a revolution, only vice versa).
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  30. +2
    26 December 2018 21: 56
    For the whole of 2017, Russian courts acquitted 1600 people (0,2% of all sentences). There were 446 convictions for one acquittal.
    just the facts
  31. +5
    26 December 2018 22: 28
    Quote from Bug_Nyuk
    dadadadadadada ..... yo-mayo... so go live with the Red Jucheists .. there you will know all the charms of the slave-owning commissar ... again they praise the cannibal and Satan ... again these wet dreams of half-cut red-bellies about executions, hunger and cold ... and that's what's interesting .. all this communist trash that grazes here sees itself exclusively with a revolver in its hand and not at all at the firing wall ...

    Why the Jucheists, we almost all survived the liberal 90s, and executions, and hunger and cold, while people like you plundered everything that was possible and impossible, to the stormy and prolonged applause of your foreign masters.
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  33. +6
    27 December 2018 00: 52
    Stalinophobia is some kind of disease that affects the brain, turns off memory, logic, common sense ...
    1. -8
      27 December 2018 01: 36
      What year are you born?
  34. -6
    27 December 2018 02: 01
    Thus, Stalin and his associates embodied in life the ideals of the Russian civilizational code-matrix, Light (Holy) Rus'. They tried to create a new reality where justice, truth, kindness and honest work would prevail.

    We must not forget that Stalin destroyed millions of Soviet citizens, turned innocently arrested citizens into slaves, forcing them to work for free: Belomorkanal .....
    We must believe Marshal Zhukov that Stalin's unprofessionalism led to the defeat of the Red Army by the second half of 1941:
    Zhukov :
    ,, "Speaking of our readiness for war from the point of view of the economy, the economy, one cannot hush up such a factor as subsequent assistance from the allies.
    First of all, of course, from the side of the Americans, because the British in this sense helped us minimally.
    When analyzing all sides of the war, this cannot be discounted. We would be in a difficult position without American gunpowder, we would not be able to produce the amount of ammunition that we needed.
    Without the American "Studebakers" we would have nothing to carry our artillery on.
    Yes, they largely provided our front-line transport in general.

    The production of special steels, necessary for the most diverse needs of the war, was also associated with a number of American supplies.
    It cannot be denied that the Americans sent us so many materials, without which we could not form our reserves and could not continue the war ...

    We had no explosives, gunpowder.
    There was nothing to equip rifle cartridges. The Americans really helped us out with gunpowder and explosives. And how much they drove us sheet steel!
    How could we quickly start producing tanks if it weren't for American help with steel? ,,

    Impossible to forget:
    The Red Army lost 7 people in the first six months of the war:
    2 people were killed and wounded (100% of all losses).
    3 800 000 - prisoners (about 45% of all losses).
    1 - 000 - deserters evading the front and captivity
    1. +5
      27 December 2018 05: 11
      But wasn't the same Zhukov the chief of the General Staff? But was it not his fault that the Red Army was driven into such a position? Who, if not he, was responsible for developing plans for covering and operating troops? You either dress your shorts or take off your cross.
    2. +1
      27 December 2018 08: 40
      Did you take these figures from Solzhenitsyn?
    3. +2
      27 December 2018 10: 51
      Before believing Zhukov unconditionally, you would first think, when did he write this and for whom? Well, Zhukov really wanted to become and be the Minister of Defense, and these memories were very much in the cash register of the main "whistleblower" of Stalin, whom Stalin repeatedly called just a fool, which he really was.
  35. +4
    27 December 2018 05: 00
    In 1926 the population of the USSR was 147 million. , and in 1939 already 170 million. It turns out the women gave birth faster than Stalin shot. Something liberal propaganda does not add up
    1. +5
      27 December 2018 06: 48
      And the Stalinophobes who seized Russia, without any executions, staged the genocide of the Russian / Russian people. Supermortality in Russia after 1991 amounted to more than 14 million people, the same number as the Stalinophobes of the USSR, together with the Nazis, killed citizens of the RSFSR in the Great Patriotic War.
      But the "tremendous philanthropy" of Stalinophobes does not extend to the post-Soviet period. There is NO benefit to stage performances.
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        27 December 2018 09: 13
        Quote: tatra
        Russian / Russian people

        The Russian people do not exist.
        There is a Russian nation.
        And the Russian people.
        And the population of Russia.
    2. TTi
      -3
      30 December 2018 12: 53
      Quote: Mechanic
      In 1926 the population of the USSR was 147 million. , and in 1939 already 170 million. It turns out the women gave birth faster than Stalin shot.

      Why this statistic? She doesn't talk about anything. Yes, slaves were born faster. And so it was in all the slave-owning states known in history. What's next?
      1. +1
        31 December 2018 14: 01
        The example is incorrect - the USSR was not a slave state, on the contrary - a country of the free.
        1. TTi
          -3
          31 December 2018 14: 37
          Quote: Llur
          The USSR was not a slave-owning state; on the contrary, it was a country of the free.

          The USSR was a theocratically (essentially pagan) state based on a slave-owning mode of production. With an extreme degree of centralization.
          Learn political economy and social science. Everything is written there.
          Yes, and one more thing, "free", how was it in the USSR about going abroad? Beyond the "country of the free"?
          1. +1
            1 January 2019 13: 51
            Alas for you, but the USSR was a country with a progressive economy, the most powerful science (at the time of collapse) and the most powerful army. And a strong army is simply theoretically impossible without strong science. Learn history, and do not listen to Western propaganda, designed for people who are not able to reason and draw conclusions. And the presence / absence of freedom to cross the border is not at all an indicator of any real achievements in something. In the Russian Federation there is freedom to leave, but there is no democracy, freedom and at least some achievements comparable to the achievements of the Union, the Russian Federation is now a police state.
            1. TTi
              0
              1 January 2019 14: 07
              Quote: Llur
              Alas for you, but the USSR was a country with a progressive economy

              Apparently, therefore, it was a very poor country with a practically impoverished population.
              Quote: Llur
              the most powerful science (at the time of collapse)

              Will we count the number of Nobel Prizes?
              We will not, because there is nothing special to consider.
              Quote: Llur
              and the strongest army

              According to my estimates (and personal observations), the Soviet army was practically incompetent. What she demonstrated in Afghanistan.
              Quote: Llur
              And the presence / absence of freedom to cross the border is not at all an indicator of any real achievements in something.

              The lack of freedom to cross the border is one of the signs of the slave-owning mode of production (system). Slaves are forbidden to leave their masters. Otherwise, everyone will scatter in different directions, and who will work for a pittance?
              Quote: Llur
              In the Russian Federation, there is freedom to leave, but there is no democracy, freedom, and at least some achievements comparable to those of the Union

              Was there democracy and freedom in the USSR? In what places? You are just talking fantastic nonsense.
              Quote: Llur
              Russia is now a police state.

              I will not give an assessment of the RF. Because I traditionally do not comment on the post-Soviet period.
              But I will only note that, according to the canons of classical political economy, the slave-owning state (with the development, and not the degradation of society) is followed by the feudal state. Remember this sequence well. From a slave-owning society straight into a bourgeois (capitalist) transition is impossible in principle.
              1. 0
                4 January 2019 17: 49
                And again you are wrong - the population was many times richer. It is precisely because of the clear superiority of the economy and industry of the Union that our enemies could only win by betrayal. It is rather stupid to consider Nobel Prizes - Western awards, outstanding to Western scientists who ignored the achievements of Soviet science. There is a clear contradiction - the West was allegedly ahead of the rest, but it was the Union that defeated Hitler, it was the Union that was the leader of the space race (tell naive idiots about flying to the moon), it was the Union that was a truly social and fair state. And ia will not grow up to the bourgeoisie until it gets out of slavery.
  36. +2
    27 December 2018 07: 13
    The first is a return to the foundations of the old world: bourgeois-capitalist, liberal-democratic. Recognize that the future of mankind is the Western matrix of development (in fact, this is the White project, the Februaryists-Westerners who killed the Russian Empire, the autocracy). That is, red Moscow could bargain for honorable terms of surrender
    Putin, Medvedev and the oligarchs have chosen this path, now they are agreeing on the conditions on which they will govern Russia, but the West believes that, as a winner, he himself has the right to dispose of wealth and he does not need our gaskets, he will put his managers, but sooner or later they will agree, then there will be 15 million of us left, as Thatcher suggested.
  37. +5
    27 December 2018 08: 22
    Let's still abstract from the formula "good / bad Stalin" and look at its result, where the country, after the collapse of the Empire, embarked on a sustainable path of development. No one argues that this was achieved with sweat and blood. The expediency of a number of actions can be disputed to the point of hoarseness, but the country was put back on track and if it were not for the Western project of the Third Reich, it is not a fact that they would have remained the favorites of the industrial race.
    By the way, with the Cold War, the West had the same goals - to restrain development by non-military means. The current stage is a continuation of the same, because nothing has yet been invented in the West to replace carpet bombing, information warfare and strangulation of economies.
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      -4
      27 December 2018 09: 25
      Quote: g1washntwn
      de country after the collapse of the Empire

      Arranged by the Bolsheviks.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      embarked on a sustainable development path

      Actually degradation. In terms of the development of society in 1991, the USSR was just in the middle of the 19th century. The moment of the abolition of serfdom. 150 years down the drain.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      but the country was put back on track

      Bosh what.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      and if not for the Western project of the Third Reich

      I may be wrong, but it seems that the West declared war on the Reich on September 3, 1939? At the very time when the USSR, together with the Reich, pulled Poland?
      Quote: g1washntwn
      not the fact that they would remain the favorites of the industrial race

      Enchanting. No, there are simply no words to describe the expressed insanity in words.
      1. +3
        27 December 2018 09: 41
        You are not counterarguing my position, but quoting propaganda clichés. Very weak, not even a minus in the rating.
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          -6
          27 December 2018 09: 45
          Quote: g1washntwn
          You do not have a counterargument to my position

          Basic values ​​need no argumentation. Like axioms in mathematics.
          A scoundrel, for example, does not need to be explained that he is a scoundrel. This he himself must know. His mother had to teach him this as a child.
          Nothing personal, just an abstract example.
      2. +1
        27 December 2018 12: 26
        Didn't Poland screw up the Czech Republic? Found something to refer to. To the HYENA of Europe.
      3. 0
        31 December 2018 14: 03
        Of course you are wrong. You have been brainwashed by Western propaganda.
        1. TTi
          -2
          31 December 2018 14: 39
          Quote: Llur
          You have been brainwashed by Western propaganda.

          What about you? Can't you guess?
          1. +1
            31 December 2018 14: 43
            Quote from TTi
            What about you? Can't you guess?

            No, we don't guess. Enlighten.
          2. 0
            1 January 2019 13: 44
            And I'm only interested in the truth, alas for you. It's useless to argue with the truth.
            1. TTi
              0
              1 January 2019 14: 15
              Quote: Llur
              I'm only interested in the truth, alas for you. It's useless to argue with the truth.

              Exactly. Therefore, the lies of Sovagitprop are in full view. And the end result of "socialism" is its collapse, too.
              How much rope does not twist, ....
              But some don't want to see the obvious. Totalitarian sects, they just won't let go of their paws. Destruction, it is in the minds.
              1. 0
                4 January 2019 17: 41
                Only lies, suppression of facts and betrayal could destroy the Union. Russia is now at a crossroads - either return to the true path, the path of truth, or the traitors will ruin it.
  38. 0
    27 December 2018 09: 01
    And the mafia won. So Russianness could not resist venality?
  39. +2
    27 December 2018 09: 37
    Bacteriological weapons are no less formidable than other types of weapons. These laboratories are located
    near our border. Moreover, it can be used in peacetime. The merit of Stalin's environment is that it
    could create a very tough sanitary service, which was subsequently weakened. It is necessary to pay close attention to this.
  40. +3
    27 December 2018 09: 46
    In defense of Stalin
    I wonder why there are so many people in the country who hate I.V. Stalin. After all, all these haters did not live under Stalin, and perhaps they did not live in the USSR either at a time when they became adult conscious citizens capable of thinking sensibly. If they had lived at least a little in the country that we lost thanks to Khrushchev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they might have changed their worldview. Stalin simply did not have time to complete his captivity for the construction of socialism in a single country, Khrushchev, the poisoner, interfered. In addition, Stalin was too soft a person, did not tolerate violence, but was forced to destroy the enemies of the people, if he saw that they could not be corrected by any term of imprisonment. Because of this human softness, uncorrected Russophobes, liberals and other traitors and enemies of the people survived in the country, which we are now seeing. If Khrushchev had not released Bandera, Totskists, spies and traitors ahead of schedule, then perhaps the USSR would have survived. After all, the people did not want it to collapse. Today, who are Russophobes and Stalinophobes - This is scum that should not have a place among us. The wind of history will blow them off the path of the people to a brighter future. The vile West is preventing us from moving forward faster, I hope that the country will overcome this.
    1. TTi
      -4
      30 December 2018 12: 58
      Quote: efimich41
      Stalin simply did not have time to complete his captives for the construction of socialism in a single country

      The "construction" of socialism in the USSR was completed:
      - mostly in December 1936
      - completely in June 1940
      Started December 1927
      Teach materiel.
      Quote: efimich41
      In addition, Stalin was too soft a person, did not tolerate violence, but was forced to destroy the enemies of the people, if he saw that they could not be corrected by any term of imprisonment.

      In 1936, 1 people were shot in the USSR.
      In 1937, 353 people were shot in the USSR.
      In 1938, 328 people were shot in the USSR.
      In 1939, 883 people were shot in the USSR.
      Well, let's say that in 1939 the enemies of socialism ended. And in 1937, what, did he sharply see the light? Or were there other reasons? Maybe the "construction" of socialism had to be completed completely? After all, it is necessary, as "coincidentally", in December 1936, Dzhugashvili announced the end of the "construction" of socialism in general terms, and from 1937 he began to shoot the "comrades" who had already become unnecessary to him.
  41. -1
    27 December 2018 10: 19
    Civilization, matrices, code, Rus' ... thank God, even Guardaria, or whatever Mr. Samsonov didn’t drag in .... but the meaning of the article? that no one knows what country was at the end of the civil war and what happened after? Samsonov can’t sleep again and article twin after twin sculpts
  42. 0
    27 December 2018 10: 35
    Quote from RX.
    Quote: serpent
    How so? Are we a superpower or where?

    What kind of reality do you live in? Economically, according to the results of 2017, the Russian Federation is in 20th place among 53 significant economies in the world. 0,4% of the whole world. A little smaller than Mexico and a little cooler than Israel.
    Spain is twice the size. Taiwan, three times. Italy five times. USA 81 times (31% of the world).
    Finish with this terminology of yours. They will laugh.

    by what indicators do they count? all these ratings are from the evil one
    1. rx.
      -7
      27 December 2018 13: 02
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      by what indicators do they count? all these ratings are from the evil one

      Who said something about ratings?
      Serious international institutions are conducting serious research. If you do not read them, but read all sorts of nonsense, this does not mean that these studies do not exist.
      If you are interested, Russia has significantly improved its position in recent years. Even 5 years ago things were much worse.
      For example, the share of Russia in 2017 is 0,38% of the global one. And in 2009 this share was 0,17%.
      The share of the United States in 2017 is 31,0% of the global. And in 2009 this share was 25,8%.
      The share of China in 2017 is 10,9% of the global. And in 2009 this share was 2,8%.
      Europe and Britain have sunk a lot.
      1. +2
        27 December 2018 13: 38
        Well, yes, they think so, as it should be, and all their so-called studies are carried out without leaving the table and computer
        1. rx.
          -6
          27 December 2018 14: 14
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          they think so, and all their so-called research is carried out without leaving the table and computer

          And research should be done with a box in hand? Do you know about such studies?
          These are other studies. They don't need to go to the clinic.
          1. +4
            27 December 2018 15: 20
            Boxes and a jar are for you to hand over, for the sake of reason, otherwise the parasites gnawed through the whole brain
          2. -1
            27 December 2018 17: 27
            Another kremlebot.
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  44. +2
    27 December 2018 11: 27
    Quote from RX.
    Quote: Mister Creed
    They helped and created a counterbalance in the face of Hitler.

    Gee-gee-gee.
    Quote: Mister Creed
    Who came up with the idea of ​​the Iron Curtain?

    THE USSR. He began to fence himself off from everyone with fences and other engineering structures.

    Churchill suggested for your information!!!
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  46. +2
    27 December 2018 11: 37
    Quote from RX.
    Quote: Mister Creed
    Is it labor dynasties or feudalism? Or a caste society?

    According to the laws of the development of society, after the slave-owning society, feudal society always follows. And never, bourgeois. It comes after the feudal.
    Serfdom was abolished in the middle of the 18th century. And socialism fell at the end of the 20th century.
    In the net balance, we have 150 years of delay ... in Russia. And how would it not lag forever.

    But how did your beloved America passed feudalism????????????????
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  48. +6
    27 December 2018 16: 04
    Quote from RX.
    Quote: Evil Echo
    The wind is slowly picking up...

    And do not hope. After the trial of "socialism", even the grave will most likely be razed to the ground. Such people used to be buried outside the cemetery fence.

    It's just your dreams
  49. +7
    27 December 2018 16: 06
    Quote: Nick_R
    Yes, any shit will pereprete over time. And Stalin has already overreacted.

    Judging by you, already during "life" you smell
  50. -1
    28 December 2018 03: 22
    In short, the demiurge. He descended from shining peaks to stupid morons and said: "I give you a new civilization." And the people fell on their faces in reverence.
    The resource something becomes a platform for the obsessed.
  51. +5
    28 December 2018 09: 25
    Quote from RX.
    "Wise Stalin", a poorly educated person, having built a slave reserve in the USSR, tried to compete with bourgeois countries in production efficiency. And he was just ridiculous.
    Do you understand?
    An illiterate dictator who did not even know the basics of economic history and political economy. Something there tried to do on a global scale.
    And he flew everywhere.


    How can you live in the world with such a mess in your head? Do you have at least primary education? It is useless to even react to such stupidity.
    Do you know that Stalin knew many languages, published a collection of works in which he translated the works of K. Marx into intelligible language
    and V.I. Lenin, wrote the history of the CPSU (b), which was studied by all subsequent Bolsheviks, and Stalin’s economy allowed the country to quickly overtake many developed countries, overcoming devastation, which made it possible to win the war. Textbooks for schools and universities published under Stalin were the best in the world, education was free, students received a good scholarship for their studies, and the hostel for students was free. All this allowed the country to get so many smart engineers and technicians, and this influenced the development of the country at an accelerated pace.
    I advise you to read smart books published before the Unified State Examination, it may help you get rid of the mess in your head.
    In addition, there is no need to attribute the sins and mistakes of V.I. Lenin to Stalin. If Stalin had not corrected Lenin's mistakes, the country would not have existed.
    1. TTi
      -6
      30 December 2018 13: 18
      Quote: efimich41
      Did you know that Stalin knew many languages?

      Yes, I know, Georgian is good and Russian is not very good.
      He didn't know any other languages.
      Quote: efimich41
      published collected works

      They all published. There, entire research institutes wrote works for them.
      Quote: efimich41
      in which he translated the works of K. Marx into intelligible language
      and V.I. Lenin

      1. He didn’t write anything himself.
      2. He didn’t “translate them into understandable language,” but distorted them, giving them his own interpretation. To your advantage.
      Quote: efimich41
      wrote the history of the CPSU(b),

      And again, not him.
      Quote: efimich41
      and the Stalinist economy allowed the country to quickly overtake many developed countries, overcoming devastation

      Are you the headless horseman? Only he can write this.
      Quote: efimich41
      what made it possible to win the war

      If we assume that the war is a war of economies, then the Americans won the war. Since the economy of the USSR collapsed already in the summer of 1941, and on September 24.09.1941, 2, the USSR was forced to enter WWXNUMX on the side of the Anglo-Saxons.
      The Bolsheviks ingloriously lost the German-Soviet war (June 22.06-September 24.09.1941, XNUMX).
      Quote: efimich41
      Textbooks for schools and universities published under Stalin were the best in the world

      Rave. It's just nonsense, that's all.
      Quote: efimich41
      training was free

      In fact, it was during the time of Dzhugashviya that education, starting from high school, was paid.
      Quote: efimich41
      students received a good scholarship for their studies

      Good? Have you ever tried to live on a student scholarship? I'm sure not. And I tried.
      Quote: efimich41
      the dormitory for students was free

      Have you been to those shitholes?
      Quote: efimich41
      All this allowed the country to get so many smart engineers and technicians, and this influenced the development of the country at an accelerated pace.

      Yeah. And then these “intelligent engineers and technicians” who “received the best education in the world” led the USSR to collapse.
      Something doesn't add up in your fairy tales.
      Quote: efimich41
      there would be no country

      And the sooner the USSR disappeared, the better.
      1. +1
        30 December 2018 19: 14
        One gets the impression that J.V. Stalin personally offended you, otherwise there is simply nothing to explain your hatred of him. Of course, you can refute everything, but provide arguments so that you can believe it. You are acting like Westerners who blame Russia for everything, but without providing any evidence. In general, I’m interested in what year you were born and what kind of education you received. Did you live under Stalin? Only a person offended by him personally for his service to Trotsky can treat Stalin this way. Another option is that you are from the 5th Column in the service of the West.
        1. TTi
          -2
          30 December 2018 19: 29
          Quote: efimich41
          One gets the impression that I.V. Stalin personally offended you

          Of course I offended you. And much more than Ulyanov and Hitler.
          Quote: efimich41
          You are acting like Westerners who blame Russia for everything, but without providing any evidence.

          I don't know who the "Westerners" are. But I am clear that I, as a Russian, have no need to feel any sympathy for this ghoul and his gang. This ghoul and his gang (Bolsheviks) took their homeland from the Russians. Is this enough for you?
          Quote: efimich41
          Another option is that you are from the 5th Column in the service of the West.

          All your “options” are like this. And you are forever surrounded by mythical columns. Apparently because the brain has blinders. And you broke away from your nation, joining a totalitarian sect.
          The choice is yours, your right. But after this there is no need to prove to the whole world that black is white. He, this world, does not believe you and will never believe you. Because it is mostly populated by sober, open-minded people.
          And I wish you recovery. It can be treated, I know for sure.
      2. +2
        30 December 2018 21: 00
        Here is information about the activities of I.V. Stalin

        Achievements of the USSR under the leadership of Joseph Stalin

        During Stalin's leadership, for 30 years, an agrarian, impoverished country dependent on foreign capital turned into a powerful military-industrial power on a global scale, into the center of a new socialist civilization. The poor and illiterate population of Tsarist Russia turned into one of the most literate and educated nations in the world. By the early 50s, the political and economic literacy of workers and peasants was not only equal to, but even superior to, the level of education of workers and peasants in any developed country at that time. The population of the Soviet Union increased by 41 million people.

        The only thing I would like to add from myself to this educational material is that all these achievements would have been impossible without those strategic fundamental transformations of the structure of society and the economy that were developed and began to be implemented by Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, whose faithful student and follower was Joseph Stalin. More details about this here: http://felix-edmund.livejournal.com/579551.html




        Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including DneproGES, Uralmash, KhTZ, GAZ, ZIS, factories in Magnitogorsk, Chelyabinsk, Norilsk, Stalingrad. At the same time, over the past 20 years of democracy, not a single enterprise of this scale has been built.

        Already in the 1947 year, the industrial potential of the USSR was fully restored, and in the 1950 year it grew more than 2 times in relation to the pre-war 1940 year. None of the countries affected by the war by this time even reached the pre-war level, despite powerful financial injections from the United States.





        Prices for basic foodstuffs, during the post-war 5 years in the USSR, fell more than 2 times, while in the largest countries these prices increased, and in some even 2 more than times.

        This indicates the tremendous success of a country in which only five years ago the most destructive war in the history of mankind ended and which suffered the most from this war !!

        In 1945, bourgeois experts gave an official forecast that the economy of the USSR would be able to reach the level of 1940 only by 1965 - provided that it took foreign loans. We reached this level in 1949 without any external help.

        In 1947, the USSR, the first state on our planet after the war, abolished the card system. And from 1948 every year until 1954 he reduced prices for food and consumer goods.

        Infant mortality in 1950 decreased by more than 1940 times compared to 2.
        The number of doctors increased by 1,5 times.
        The number of scientific institutions increased by 40%.
        The number of university students increased by 50%. Etc.

        The stores had an abundance of diverse industrial and food products and there was no concept of scarcity. The choice of products in grocery stores was much wider than in modern supermarkets. Now only in Finland you can try sausage, reminiscent of Soviet from those times. There were cans of crab in all Soviet stores. The quality and variety of consumer goods and food products, exclusively of domestic production, was incommensurably higher than modern consumer goods and food. As soon as new trends in fashion appeared, they were instantly tracked, and after a couple of months, fashionable goods appeared galore on store shelves.

        The wages of workers in 1953 ranged from 800 to 3000 rubles and higher. Miners and metallurgists received up to 8000 rubles. Young engineer specialists up to 1300 rubles. The secretary of the CPSU district committee received 1500 rubles, and the salaries of professors and academics were often higher than 10000 rubles.



        The Moskvich car cost 9000 p., White bread (1 kg.) - 3 p., Black bread (1 kg.) - 1 p., Beef meat (1 kg.) - 12.5 p., Pike perch - 8,3 , 1 p., Milk (2.2 l.) - 1 p., Potatoes (0,45 kg.) - 0,6 p., Zhiguli beer (2,9 l.) - 1 p., Chintz (6,1 m.) - 2 p. Complex lunch in the dining room was worth - 25 p. Evening in a restaurant for two, with a good dinner and a bottle of wine - XNUMX p.

        And all this abundance and a comfortable life was achieved, despite the content of 5,5 million, armed “to the teeth” with the most modern weapons, the best army in the world!

        Since 1946, work has been launched in the USSR: on atomic weapons and energy; on rocket technology; on automation of technological processes; to introduce the latest computer technology and electronics; on space flights; gasification of the country; on household appliances.

        The world's first nuclear power plant was commissioned in the USSR a year earlier than in England, and 2 a year earlier than in the United States. Only in the USSR were created nuclear icebreakers.

        Thus, in the USSR, in one five-year period - from 1946 to 1950 - in the conditions of a tough military and political confrontation with the richest capitalist power in the world, at least three socio-economic problems were solved without any external assistance:

        1) the national economy was restored;
        2) sustainable growth in the standard of living of the population is ensured;
        3) an economic breakthrough has been made into the future.



        And even now we exist only due to the Stalinist legacy. In science, industry, in almost all spheres of life.

        US presidential candidate Stevenson assessed the situation in such a way that if the growth rate of production in Stalinist Russia continues, then by 1970 the volume of Russian production will be 3-4 times higher than American production.

        In the September 1953 issue of National Business magazine, Herbert Harris's article "The Russians Are Catching Up" noted that the USSR is ahead of any country in terms of growth in economic power and that currently the growth rate in the USSR is 2-3 times higher than in USA.

        In 1991, at a Soviet-American symposium, when our "democrats" began to scream about a "Japanese economic miracle," the Japanese billionaire Heroshi Terawama gave them an excellent "slap in the face":

        “You are not talking about the main thing, about your leading role in the world. In 1939, you Russians were smart, and we Japanese were fools. In the 1949 year, you became even smarter, and we were fools so far. And in the 1955 year we got smarter, and you turned into five-year-olds. Our entire economic system is almost completely copied from yours, with the only difference being that we have capitalism, private producers, and we have never achieved more than 15% growth, but you, with public ownership of the means of production, have reached 30% or more. All of our firms have your slogans of the Stalin era. ”

        One of the best representatives of believing workers, revered by the saint, Luke, Archbishop of Simferopol and Crimea, wrote:

        “Stalin saved Russia. He showed what Russia means to the rest of the world. And therefore, as an Orthodox Christian and Russian patriot, I bow low to Comrade Stalin. "



        Never in its history has our country known such majestic transformations as during the Stalin era! The whole world watched our successes in shock! That is why the “diabolical” task is now being implemented - to never again allow the appearance at the levers of power of the state of people comparable in their internal strength, moral qualities, strategic thinking, organizational abilities and patriotism to Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.

        But a quarter of a century of unbridled propaganda against Stalin did not bring its organizers victory even over the dead Stalin.

        Source: http://cccp-2.su/
        1. TTi
          -1
          30 December 2018 21: 27
          Quote: efimich41
          Achievements of the USSR under the leadership of Joseph Stalin

          And delirium began to flow like a full-flowing river.
          This one was especially striking:
          Quote: efimich41
          During Stalin's leadership, for 30 years, an agrarian, impoverished country dependent on foreign capital turned into a powerful military-industrial power on a global scale, into the center of a new socialist civilization. The poor and illiterate population of Tsarist Russia turned into one of the most literate and educated nations in the world. By the early 50s, the political and economic literacy of workers and peasants was not only equal to, but even superior to, the level of education of workers and peasants in any developed country at that time.

          After such “pearls” there is nothing more to talk about. I live in the real world, and you, apparently, are in Through the Looking Glass. Stay there.
          Quote: efimich41
          Source: http://cccp-2.su/

          And the source of the nonsense is quite expected.
  52. -2
    28 December 2018 13: 54
    It is famously written about Bright Rus'! Justice? What else. I remember the fifties, sixties, seventies. I lived in a village where my father worked hard to build his house. And seven kilometers away in a town, people received apartments from the state for nothing, for thank you. Fair? They did not give a passport to either the father or the mother, so that they would not leave for anything good, so that they would rot in hopelessness. On the collective farm they worked not for money, but for workdays. At the end of the year, they gave out the beggar's quota of bread for one workday, so that they would not die of hunger. At the same time, the district committee communists came as if to their home: to the collective farm garden, to the vegetable garden, to the farm and dragged everything they wanted. My father “pushed” me out of this chaos to the institute where I studied - yes - for free. But they also gave me a job after college - in a hole and for meager pay. The party organizer told me that it was just what you wanted, the state taught you something like that - return the favor! And how the apartments were distributed: “ours” were changed out of turn 2-3 times over several years, but nothing showed up for me even in twenty years. And the slogan was - all the best for children! It’s time to get an apartment, I have two children - and bam, layoffs at work! My wife often sat with the children on sick leave - they kicked her out of the fence and didn’t look at anything. The bosses need results! Dear Mr. Samsonov! It would be better for you to remain silent.
  53. -5
    29 December 2018 21: 12
    Yes, I read the comments. Well, this is what I will write: if Comrade Stalin had read these comments, then:
    1) Those who scolded him to the wall without talking.
    2) Those who praised him are in the Gulag for about 10 years. For prevention
    3) Well, the author of the article was definitely sentenced to the highest measure of defense of the socialist fatherland.

    So we must praise God that we are not living in that time. Otherwise NOBODY would have written. No comments, no letters, no denunciations.
  54. -2
    30 December 2018 07: 15
    You cannot approach the history of your state from only one side. The past must be considered as a whole. What was done, what terrible mistakes were made. Otherwise, we will continue to step on the same
    rake. It makes me sick when I see the equality between people tortured in death camps and Magadan. Someone
    He rubs his hands and doesn’t know “for whom the bell tolls.”
  55. AB
    +1
    31 December 2018 11: 40
    Joseph Stalin - Red Emperor

    The emperor sits on a golden throne, dresses in expensive clothes, has a bunch of servants, etc., etc., and after death leaves a lot of dough for his relatives. After Stalin's death, the inheritance was an old overcoat and worn-out boots. And his daughter Svetlana did not remain a millionaire, but before escaping to the USA she lived as a simple Soviet person.
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  56. +1
    1 January 2019 10: 30
    There is a mythical expression about Stalin: "I took Russia with a plow, and left it with an atomic bomb." The very fact of this assertion is evident. This is a reality that most of today's younger generations are no longer aware of.
    It’s a pity the author doesn’t say enough, the engineers were foreign, American and German, Comrade Stalin only provided labor for this industrialization, and the drawings and plans were not ours, since in order to educate our own we needed time that Comrade Stalin did not have, because the West was preparing against the young socialist republic a new war in order to strangle, so to speak, but how can you strangle something that is dead? That’s why the damned West helped to industrialize, and before that it helped with food, but Comrade Stalin saw through the plans of the West and was preparing to repel aggression, but then the enemies poisoned the leader and the teacher, before Comrade Beria had time to fully reveal the conspiracy of the murderers in white coats, but what there were plans, everything died, everything that Comrade Stalin built all collapsed, not without the help of the betrayal of Khrushchev, who refused to continue the work of Lenin and Stalin, damn this Khrushchev!!! and the West too!!!
    ps
    I understand that it sounds like nonsense, but you can’t write a sane comment on a nonsense article
  57. 0
    3 January 2019 15: 39
    Quote: VRF
    You would not interfere with him.

    Judging by your response, we are in 37-39. interfered. (It wouldn’t hurt to write without mistakes!!)
  58. 0
    4 January 2019 12: 13
    Quote from RX.
    Quote from avi1301
    Well, you have to be such a HUMAN in order to dare and take the country broken into dust on your shoulders!

    What country was this "broken to dust"? USSR arr. 1927?
    You would do well to learn a little.
    Quote from avi1301
    And he, as can be seen from his life, did not dream of wealth.

    He had enough. The USSR with all its factories, subsoil, collective farms, little people, sheep and cockroaches cost a lot.

    In Oct. 1922 the war ended, and in 1927 the country prospered, you are our literate
  59. 0
    28 January 2019 20: 04
    I re-read the article again. Dismissing the mockery of many comments about the author’s pompous phrases (I think it would have been difficult, even impossible, to formulate it differently, the essence would have been blurred), nevertheless,
    "The mechanism of Russia in the 1920s - a mixture of weak administrative planning and a speculative market, could not provide not only a leap forward, but also normal development. What happened merging of the rapidly growing Soviet bureaucracy and speculators, the criminal world, which experienced its heyday on the ruins of the empire. " - that's right to the point!
    And also, regarding “That is, Red Moscow could bargain for honorable terms of surrender, establishing a pseudo-communist (Marxist) regime in the country, suppressing any discontent of the people with force and terror” - this is essentially the modern Chinese “version of Deng Xiaoping”, although we call general secretaries of the CCP as "emperors", but only paying tribute to nationalism. The Chinese elite still clings to the “special Chinese path,” but it is unknown how long this soft Chinese-style National Socialism will last, because China is not a counterweight to the Western matrix, but only a lucky opportunist.
  60. 0
    8 February 2019 12: 11
    Stalin was a man, so he succeeded. And these gentlemen are fucking gnomes, they can only ruin everything
  61. 0
    14 February 2019 13: 38
    And then Samsonov suffered. Rio de J..... Oh, sorry. Rus-saint, red emperor and 395 comments on the topic from empty to empty.
  62. +1
    15 March 2019 11: 00
    The third scenario was proposed by Joseph Stalin - the red emperor. He managed to literally raise a lost civilization from the ashes with a superhuman effort, give it a new impetus for development, create a new reality, civilization and society of the future. To create a super-civilization of the future, which in the future buried the Western project of enslaving the planet and gave humanity the opportunity to live humanly, happily and with dignity.

    Well, I don’t agree with this position. What kind of damn emperor is he, without personal gain and the desire to continue the dynasty? Stalin most likely chose the position of the modern head of the Japanese zaibatsu. He transferred all planning from amateurish populist-humanitarian lines to purely scientific ones, set the goals of the organization, a code of conduct, established high internal standards, a motivation system, a kaizen quality system, and drew up a five-year plan. And most importantly, he monitored the strict implementation of plans.
    At the same time, he showed “agile” flexibility to change the composition and methods of 5-year sprints.
    Along the way, the unification of the state was carried out, which contradicted the policies of some nationally-oriented henchmen of the future repressed Trotskyists, which united the country and improved internal economic ties.
    A very simple carrot-and-stick system was strengthened as positions occupied grew, just like in modern Japan.
    We can discuss the tribunals and troikas for a long time, but they quickly issued decisions, without delaying the implementation of justice, which was relevant in 99% of cases. The people need at least some SINGLE truth. ANY to start with.
  63. 0
    21 March 2019 10: 18
    Stalin never “saved” Russia! He shamelessly squandered it to protect the Bolshevik power - “the most valuable thing”, in contrast to the 27 million who died.
    Moreover, he passed on the problems he created to future generations.
    Only the death of 27 million + their unborn descendants will not allow Russia to either develop the vast empty territories or protect them.
    But 27 million who died to defend the power of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks/CPSU are only part of the victims of Bolshevism!
    "... survived literally by a miracle. The country was completely drained of blood (millions of dead, wounded and refugees), collapsed, plundered (Russia was literally sucked dry), industry and transport were greatly degraded, existing only as a memory of Russian industrialization of the late XNUMXth - early XNUMXth ( the first “Russian miracle”),” the author suffers.
    And who organized the massacre of Citizens and Devastation, Holodomor and Terror with millions of victims?
    Boasting about “heroic overcoming”...
    And the current massive ruin and robbery of the country is the result of the policy of the same “our helmsman”, and not at all the mythical “shitcrats”, these same “helmsmen” and invented by “whipping boys” for the lop-eared and gullible ordinary people.
    And it worked!

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"