How Stalin saved Russia

There is a mythical expression about Stalin: "He took Russia with a plow, and left it with an atomic bomb." The very fact of this statement is obvious. This is a reality that most of the current young generations already do not know.




Indeed, Russia after World War I, the Civil War (distemper) and intervention survived literally by a miracle. The country was completely drained of blood. (millions of dead, wounded and refugees), wrecked, plundered (Russia was literally sucked dry), industry and transport were severely degraded, existing only as a reminder of the Russian industrialization of the late XIX - early XX (first "Russian miracle"). Not a single large plant, not a single large power plant was built, there was not a single transport project implemented. There was no financial resources and gold: the gold reserves of the Russian Empire were partially spent by the tsarist government, partially plundered by whites, foreigners and taken out by Lenin's “guard”. Huge capital, finances, valuables (gold, silver, precious stones, works of art, etc.) were taken out by the fleeing aristocracy, the big bourgeoisie, the marauders who plundered the country during the fratricidal war.

Agriculture, which in tsarist Russia did not shine with advanced agricultural technologies, was thrown back hundreds of years ago. Instead of tractors and various mechanisms used horses or people themselves worked. Agriculture after the defeat of large commodity farms, estates, which gave the bulk of the grain for sale, degraded, its marketability was reduced compared with the Russian Empire. The village returned to subsistence farming, most of the farms worked only on self-sufficiency. The city could not provide the village with the necessary industrial goods. Confrontation on the line of the city - the village. At the same time, social stratification in the village itself was preserved. The New Economic Policy (NEP) strengthened the position of wealthy farms - the kulaks. The village still lived in poverty, starved. Hunger 1921-1922 swept 35 provinces with a population of 90-million, killed hundreds of thousands of people, millions of children lost their parents and became homeless. In this case, mostly poor, poor peasants suffered. As a result, the village was on the verge of a second peasant war. The first peasant war, which began immediately after the February Revolution, was a terrible and bloody tragedy that claimed millions of lives. She was crushed with great difficulty. Now the village was ready to explode again.

Russia's economic mechanism 1920-s - a mixture of weak administrative planning and a speculative market, could not provide not only a breakthrough, but also normal development. There was a merging of the rapidly growing Soviet bureaucracy and speculators, the criminal world, which was flourishing on the ruins of the empire. There was no hope for foreign investment. Soviet Russia was in international isolation. At the same time, foreigners were happy to create a semi-colonial economic model in Russia, to gain control over existing enterprises, mines, and mineral deposits.

The weak, degraded industry could not provide the village with the necessary quantities of consumer goods, tractors and other equipment. There was no engine building in the country, aviation industry, mass automotive, electrical engineering, shipbuilding fell into decay, etc. Without developed engineering, in the industrial era, death awaited Russia. Science and industry could not give the army a modern weapontechnique. In the army parks there were only obsolete cars, Tanks and planes from the times of the First World War. And there were very few of them. Agriculture could not feed a large army, create strategic reserves in case of war, to supply troops and cities. As a result, Soviet Russia was doomed to a military catastrophe in the event of a new major war. It could be defeated not only by such advanced powers as Germany, Britain or Japan, but also Poland and Finland. A new big war was not far off. A little more and Western armies (and in the East - Japan) with mechanized divisions and air fleetsarmed with masses of modern tanks, planes, guns, they would simply crush the remaining in the past Russia. New industrial the capitalist world would just have eaten the USSRas once the Western colonialists dared the once mighty and numerous peoples and tribes of America and conquered ancient and rich, but technically backward India.

At this time, the Western powers and Japan developed rapidly. The heyday of the industrial era. At the factories of Ford launched the conveyor. The automotive industry, engine building, aircraft manufacturing, shipbuilding, chemical industry, instrument engineering and electronics industry, metallurgy, etc. experienced rapid development. The world was rapidly electrifying the industry. And Russia has stagnated, it is now lagging behind, not only from world leaders, like the Russian Empire in 1913, but also from the second-tier powers. The lag became monstrous, it was the death sentence of Russia-USSR. As Stalin honestly admitted: “We have fallen behind by 50-100 years ...” And it was necessary to make literally a miracle, a qualitative breakthrough in the future, in order to save Russia and the people.

Another serious problem of Soviet Russia was psychological disaster, cultural and psychological, moral collapse of the “old Russia”. The people were crushed, literally crushed by the disaster of 1914-1920. There was a destruction, decay, death of the former Russia, the Romanovs, the old society. Millions of people died in world and civil wars, during the peasant war and the criminal revolution, from hunger and disease. Millions of people fled abroad. The Russian Empire died in brutal agony. Russia paid a terrible price for the deadlocks of its development caused by the Romanov project, for the tragic discord between the civilizational code matrix and real life, for the betrayal of the pro-Western "elite" that abandoned the civilizational historical missions of Russian civilization and Russian superethnos.

Russia-Russia was exsanguinated, the moral and psychological structure of the Russian people, the state-founder, bearing the basic creation and preservation of the empire, cracked. Russia withstood the 1917 disaster of the year, the transition from the old world to the new - the USSR. The socialist revolution promised great men the meaning of their existence. However, the Soviet Russia 1920s were squalid. Instead of a happy, creative and new world, full of opportunities, people again saw a difficult, hungry and unfair daily life. Hope faded away. There was no future for such Russia. Thus, the people could leave the unjust old world, but did not see a happy and just new world.

And at this time, when Russia again faced the threat of total destruction, the Soviet elite frantically searched for a way out. There were three possible scenarios. The first is a return to the foundations of the old world: bourgeois capitalist, liberal-democratic. To recognize that the future of mankind is the Western matrix of development (in fact, it is the White Project, the feudalist Westerners who killed the Russian empire, the autocracy). That is, red Moscow could bargain for the honorable conditions of surrender, establishing a pseudo-communist (Marxist) regime in the country, suppressing any discontent of the people by force and terror. The party elite would quickly be reborn, become a colonial administration, the management apparatus of the owners of the West.

The second is to try to close off from the old world, create an “iron curtain”, and after it save up strength, build your own world. However, in essence, this path eventually led to the first - the rebirth, the rotting of the Soviet, party elite. In addition, having withdrawn, without advanced Western technologies, achievements of science and technology, the Soviet Union of the 1920 model, would quickly become a victim of the West's "crusade" to the East. Thus, both scenarios led to a catastrophe, it was only postponed for the future.

The third scenario was proposed by Joseph Stalin - the red emperor. He managed to literally inhuman effort to raise a dead civilization from the ashes, give it a new impulse of development, create a new reality, civilization and society of the future. Create a super-civilization of the future, which in the future buried the Western project of enslavement of the planet and gave humanity the opportunity to live humanly, happily and with dignity.

First of all, Stalin was able to give people the image of the future. - brilliant, beautiful (especially for young people), the world of the future. The society of knowledge, service and creation, where the main will be knowledge, work and creation (creativity). Society of social justice and the domination of ethics of conscience. It was a real alternative to Western society - a society of slave owners and slaves. Soviet Russia began to create a world of creation, social justice, a world where there is no exploitation, social parasites. A world where, due to labor, creativity, the disclosure of intellectual and spiritual abilities of a person and service to society, an immeasurably higher level of development of society and an individual will be achieved than in the old world.

It was a breakthrough in the future. For the first time on the planet they created a new world-civilization, a society of the future. The masters of the West (the current global mafia) are building a global slave civilization, based on the ancient slave-owning civilizations of the Ancient East. Rome and Greece. This is a caste, slave-owning society with the division of society into "elected" -the Lord and "two-legged tools." The Soviet Union offered a different world, based on justice, truth, and ethics of conscience. Supercivilization and a society where the spiritual will be higher than the material (“golden calf”), the general is above the private, justice is above the law. Where human desires will be reasonable, and collective interests will outweigh bestial egoism. A world where people realize that for a happy future, today we must endure hardships, work and if we need to fight, give our lives for great ideals.

Thus, Stalin and his associates embodied the ideals of the Russian civilization matrix code, Light (Holy) Russia. They tried to create a new reality, where justice, truth, good and honest work will prevail. And you can not say that they did not succeed. It turned out a lot, though not all. Old reality resisted, did not want to go into the past. In particular, the masters of the West organized the Second World War with the aim of destroying Russia-USSR. Due to a chronic lack of time, the most radical, tough methods had to be applied. Psychologically, a significant part of society, especially the elite, was not ready for a new reality, it was drawn into the past. And the new generations, with their mind and soul who believed in a bright future, were severely drained of blood by the Great War. Hence the pullback during the reign of Khrushchev and Brezhnev.

As a result, Stalin had nothing in the beginning but a dream, an image of the future. However, this image coincided with the civilization code of Russia. The 1917 revolution of the year created the ability to create a new reality, the world, and the red emperor used it. In order for the country and the people to survive, to preserve the Russian civilization, Stalin began to translate the civilization matrix into a national development project, in the materialization of the project of Light Russia. The new Soviet (Russian) civilization, the world-society of the future should have become the basis of the entire human civilization, determining its development for hundreds of years to come. It was a challenge to the global mafia, the "masons" who built the "new world order" - the slave-owning civilization. The last emperor of Great Russia (USSR) did literally the impossible!
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  1. 210ox 26 December 2018 15: 09 New
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    "Olgovich" would be nice to read. That would not ask stupid questions.
    1. Mechanic 26 December 2018 15: 14 New
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      If it weren’t for the "Red Emperor" that we had been rolled out for a long time, nuclear weapons can only sober up violent heads
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        1. betta 26 December 2018 16: 13 New
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          It’s with Nagan, because there is someone to shoot!
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            1. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 22: 51 New
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              This is how the Bolsheviks ruined the country? Two five-year plans were enough for the rise of the country. And the first and second time. And there were sanctions and a global crisis. We were promised the rise of Russia in the 90s with 20 years of calm life. Calm life has been over 20 years. Honduras did not bother us. Where is the Zin exhaust?
              1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 22: 57 New
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                In the mid-thirties we only reached the pre-war level (1914) in terms of industrial production. In terms of agricultural development, we reached the pre-war level only in the late Khrushchev and then extensive methods thanks to the plowing of virgin lands. For 50 years, under Soviet rule, the population lived WORSE worse than under the tsar. Because people do not care how much iron and steel are smelted in the country, they want to eat.
                1. RX.
                  RX. 26 December 2018 23: 03 New
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                  Quote: Nick_R
                  In the mid-thirties we only reached the pre-war level (1914) in terms of industrial production.

                  Actually, it happened somewhere in the 60s.
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  For 50 years, under Soviet rule, the population lived WORSE worse than under the tsar. Because people do not care how much iron and steel are smelted in the country, they want to eat.

                  Absolutely.
                  Moreover, this steel and cast iron were spent so that any industrialized country for the same purpose would need half the cast iron and steel.
                2. Mr Credo 27 December 2018 00: 52 New
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                  If the people under Stalin lived so badly, why were there so many volunteers in the war? Why did you buy tanks and planes with your own money? Even the church bought the tank column Dmitry Donskoy! Why today, well-living citizens do not buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry?
                  1. Tashkent citizen 27 December 2018 06: 44 New
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                    Why today, well-living citizens do not buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry?

                    Great question. Somehow, one thought came to my mind a long time ago. Seditious of course.
                    Take Alla Borisovna Pugacheva (well, or any famous singer, etc.). I understand that counting other people's money is disgusting and disgusting.
                    But. On the other hand. Her income is the annual maintenance of a division (airborne, tank, motorized rifle, well, or whatever it is), a destroyer, etc.
                    Why does she need so much money? They are superfluous with her.
                    1. uskrabut 29 December 2018 17: 36 New
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                      Quote: Tashkent
                      Take Alla Borisovna Pugacheva

                      And why immediately AllBorisovna? There are Siluanovs with Nabiulins, governors, mayors and all sorts of different heads and top managers
                  2. Vladimirsky 27 December 2018 09: 38 New
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                    Quote: Mr Credo
                    Why today, well-living citizens do not buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry?

                    Well-living citizens are buying right now - in the form of deductions to tax officials. And in Stalin's days, the collective farmers had almost no money - they were paid mainly with sticks. Who did not understand - accrued workdays, then issued agricultural products.
                    1. naidas 27 December 2018 17: 38 New
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                      Quote: Vladimirsky
                      Well-living citizens are buying right now - in the form of deductions to tax officials.

                      Well, with a flat slag of taxes, they also receive tax deductions, unlike ordinary citizens.
                  3. Olgovich 27 December 2018 10: 15 New
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                    Quote: Mr Credo
                    If the people under Stalin lived so badly, why were there so many volunteers in the war?

                    For the FATHERLAND stood up. Like the whole thousand years before.
                    For power in 91 Mr. nobody stood up,
                    Quote: Mr Credo
                    Why today, well-living citizens do not buy tanks and planes for the Russian Defense Ministry?

                    What is war today? belay

                    Regarding the "salvation" of Russia (where, by the way, did he speak of the salvation of Russia specifically? belay ) FACTS only:

                    Under Stalin, formed today's borders of Russia of the 17th century: during his reign from the RSFSR-Russia 4 million km2 were cut off (and purely Russian lands AFTER the founding of the USSR) and several republic-states have been created (see the Stalinist constitution) - admire them on today's world map.

                    It was he who turned on Russian Donbass to the so-called Ukrainewith him already AFTER the formation of the USSR , Belarus doubled ...- at the expense of the Smolensk land, he was just liberated in 1940 Russian Bessarabia has turned the province into MSSR.

                    The lands conquered by the Russian soldier were allotted to Poland, the worst enemy of Russia, and it, like the invaders of the Second World War, was restored at the expense of .... the country that they had devastated and forgiving them .... reparations. ALL of them today are enemies of Russia, as is one powerful Germany, whose unity he fiercely defended instead of a heap of small Austrians.

                    Unprecedented famines of the world in 33,48 years, the demographic catastrophe of the 1930s, the execution of several hundred thousand during one PEACEFUL year 37-38, the level of 1913 for food, clothing, housing, "reached" already ... after 40 years, ravaged, running into the city, village, no elections, no newspapers, no parties, nothing .....

                    As Stalin honestly admitted: "We are 50-100 years behind ..."

                    In the same speech, he also honestly admitted:

                    "In the past, we have there was not and could not be a Fatherland ".

                    For what the Pozharsky, Kutuzov, Nevsky, millions of Ivanovs, Petrovs fought, it’s not clear where he was born grew up, it’s not clear.

                    Ibid:
                    The history of old Russia consisted in the fact that it was continuously beaten. They beat the Mongol khans. They beat the Turkish beks. Beat the Swedish feudal lords. Beat Polish-Lithuanian pans. Beaten by the Anglo-French capitalists.

                    Someone was "beaten", "beaten", and the country -the largest in the world-they built it, "beaten". And the people with them doubled every 50 years.

                    And after the "salvation" -depopulation since 1964 and the borders of the 17th century ....
                    1. Ingvar 72 29 December 2018 19: 25 New
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                      Quote: Olgovich
                      execution of several hundred thousand during one PEACEFUL year 37-38,

                      Debatable. The highest ranks of the total number of executed were Jews. The bulk. The rest were mostly sympathetic to Trotsky's ideas.
                      Andrew - you must knowthat the main losses of the Russian people were in the 20s, and not in the 30s. That is, under Lenin and his "guard", and not under Stalin. Which in the thirties and shot. Why engage in insinuations? belay
                      1. Leonid Anatolevich 31 December 2018 01: 05 New
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                        Lenin in 1922 was already a seriously ill person, Trotsky was in opposition since 1923, Bukharin was an opponent of collectivization and extreme measures against peasants - who do you blame for the extermination of the Russian people?
                    2. sniperino 6 January 2019 10: 34 New
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                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Under Stalin, the current borders of Russia of the 17th century were formed
                      Stalin was a patriot of the USSR, he could not prepare the country for the collapse of 91 years.
                  4. Nick_R 27 December 2018 11: 31 New
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                    Have you heard about such a concept as "Homeland"? So people went to protect her. Even Denikin and his comrades were ready to return to the USSR and go to the front, naturally, with security guarantees. And Stalin considered such a scenario, but was frightened.
                    And now, God forbid, if anything happens, they will volunteer and, believe me, not for the sake of great love for Putin.
                    1. uskrabut 29 December 2018 17: 43 New
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                      Quote: Nick_R
                      volunteers and, believe me, not for the sake of great love for Putin.

                      weapons in the hands of the people will mean the end of the current elite, by analogy with the 1st World War. Therefore, in the interests of maintaining the current situation, it is necessary to prevent war.
                3. kuz363 27 December 2018 08: 53 New
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                  You might think that under the king, people ate caviar with spoons. Read Gorky’s novel Mother, how the workers lived at that time.
                  1. Nick_R 27 December 2018 11: 33 New
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                    The bitter court slurry of Stalin, as a writer, to put it mildly so-so, was kept for the sake of origin.
                    1. kotvov 27 December 2018 13: 42 New
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                      Stalin’s bitter court slime ,,,
                      so read Gilyarovsky, since he doesn’t fall into your qualification.
                    2. Igor V 28 December 2018 11: 45 New
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                      Quote: Nick_R
                      Stalin’s bitter court slime,

                      It’s hard to come up with a more idiotic maxim! His play "At the Bottom" was staged around the world at a time when Stalin was still a modest underground. And those who did not read “The Life of Klim Samghin” will not be able to understand the processes that led to the revolution. Your kick towards the great writer is no smarter than barking Shavka. Alas.
                  2. Ingvar 72 29 December 2018 19: 35 New
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                    Quote: kuz363
                    Read Gorky’s novel Mother, how the workers lived at that time.

                    Need to read the statistics. How much did the workers and peasants receive in the provinces, and compare wages with the level of food prices. And believe me, the salary of a worker at the Putilov factory (champion in the number of strikes) made it possible to eat better than now. It is a fact. hi
                4. BecmepH 27 December 2018 10: 30 New
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                  Quote: Nick_R
                  50 years under Soviet rule, the population lived WORSE worse than under the tsar

                  Cool. Where did the firewood come from?
            2. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 01 New
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              The war in Ukraine is the result of the rule of the Communists !? Is it the 91st Communists rule? Is it the Communists that are baiting people? Is division into estates unity or etching? And who created the parade of sovereignty? Where did the Russians go today? Is there Russia today?
            3. plotnikov561956 27 December 2018 06: 37 New
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              We. all living witnesses .. the results of the work of the Sovereign and Patriot ... from plow to rocket ... this is a fact ... and the results of the St. Petersburg lads ... the same is evident ...! Just the facts gentlemen ... and nothing more ... everything else emotions and verbiage
        2. Nick_R 26 December 2018 16: 52 New
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          Agriculture, which even in tsarist Russia did not shine with advanced agricultural technologies, was discarded hundreds of years ago

          Well, of course, it’s at least 500 years old. How else to explain that under the brilliant Stalin, Russia, once the world's largest grain exporter, suddenly began to starve massively to cannibalism and millions of dead, and the rest of the time it was starving. Here, of course, some irresponsible ones like me will tell you how during the famine in the Volga region trains with grain went to Germany as a result of repatriation, or rather the debt of the Bolsheviks to the Germans for the power they received. As the same trains with grain went to Europe in 1932-1934 for the sake of foreign exchange earnings. And far from all the money went to purchase equipment. A lot of currency went to the maintenance of the Cominterns, the purchase of personal goods. All this was paid literally for the lives of our peasants.
          To replace Stalin came a little less ingenious Khrushchev, Brezhnev and others. But here is the bad luck, the situation with agriculture continued to deteriorate. And if anyone does not remember, I remind you that perestroika arose not from the great desire of the communist nomenclature to give freedom to people, but from the fact that sharply falling oil yen did not allow importing grain from America in the previous volumes and the Politburo was afraid of hunger riots.
          Why in the USSR, where there was the highest consumption of mineral fertilizers in the world, the largest number of tractors, combines and other equipment, we could not feed ourselves? Say the climate is not the same? So today's Russia has once again become the largest exporter of wheat, despite the fact that we require fertilizers and use equipment several times less than in the USSR. And it's just a matter of MOTIVATION. The fact that these feudal remnants of the collective farm were finally dispersed, into which they "drove" the peasants under the guns of machine guns Stalin.
          Well, save the tales about the genius of the ghoul of Stalin for the wife, if they turn her on.
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          2. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 19 New
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            Only the largest grain exporter sold low-grade and weed grain. And when they said that "We will not eat, but will we sell grain?" It was with the king! People were starving, and bread was being sold to foreigners! This is how the Germans gave the Bolsheviks power in Russia? And what good is the country today began to sell a lot of grain? Grain feed. We give them grain, they give us meat. Why can’t you breed your cattle? And the seeds of grain talk with GMOs. Fertilizers at that time most of all brought GDR. What makes you think that everything is growing with us? Each crop has its own cultivation area. We purchased durum wheat varieties. Why are we buying bananas and oranges today? If collective farms are a relic, then why create agricultural holdings? This is not a small farm!
            1. Nick_R 27 December 2018 11: 43 New
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              Grain feed.

              You would not write about what you do not understand. The lion's share of wheat exported now is the most food. Because transporting low-quality wheat, taking into account transportation costs, is not profitable.
              Well, I’ll tell you a little secret, almost anywhere in the world wheat is not divided into feed and food. Protein content is important, or as we say gluten. And the gluten deformation index by which wheat was classified as fodder in our country does not matter now, it is "treated" with special additives
          3. naidas 26 December 2018 23: 36 New
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            Quote: Nick_R
            So today's Russia has once again become the largest exporter of wheat, despite the fact that we require fertilizers and use equipment several times less than in the USSR.

            I have long been interested in the question: Why did potatoes turn black in the light of the USSR, and now they blush in the light.
            Bread under the USSR in the 70s is pleasure, bread in modern Russia is poison.
            1. Mordvin 3 26 December 2018 23: 46 New
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              Quote: naidas
              and now it’s blushing in the light.

              This is a GMO potato. Same thing with apples.
              1. naidas 26 December 2018 23: 55 New
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                The same with all store products.
                Somewhere on the Internet they wrote that products like in the USSR we can’t afford with our modern salaries.
              2. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 24 New
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                Don’t talk nonsense! If you don’t know, don’t blurt out, we don’t have potato in our country, well, not at all
                1. Mordvin 3 27 December 2018 10: 41 New
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                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  Now, if you don’t know, don’t blurt out, we don’t have potatoes in our country, well, not at all

                  Maybe we don’t have imported potatoes either?
                  In Russia, the cultivation of genetically modified potatoes is prohibited, but its import, processing and sale to the public is allowed. In Russia, it is allowed to import, process and sell two varieties of GMO potatoes of the Monsanto selection and three varieties of domestic selection:

                  Russet Burbank NewLeaf (Monsanto selection);
                  Superior NewLeaf;
                  Nevsky plus (domestic selection);
                  Lugovsky 1210 amk;
                  Elizabeth 2904 / 1 kgs.

                  https://kartofan.org/chto-takoe-kartoshka-gmo.html
                  1. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 11: 06 New
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                    We have imported potatoes, I did not deny it, most imported potatoes go for chips and for the production of frozen potatoes for the ferret segment.
              3. astepanov 27 December 2018 14: 33 New
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                This is a GMO potato. Same thing with apples.

                Right! And even earlier, they were washed with laundry soap, and now with powder, and in it solid GMOs. And rhodiacea. And the chemistry is isho - before the hawthorn was without chemistry, and the taperich with chemistry and with the game. And in the clinic all GMOs are injected under the scapula.
                1. Mordvin 3 27 December 2018 16: 11 New
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                  and now powder, and in it solid GMOs. And rhodiacea. And the chemistry is isho - before the hawthorn was without chemistry, and the taperich with chemistry and with the game.

                  Powder standards in Russia below Western.
                  I do not know hawthorn with chemistry, or not, but it was banned. In pharmacies, in addition to alcohol according to 40, there are no netuti worth of rudiments.
          4. Trol_2 27 December 2018 02: 23 New
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            Alexander II in 1861 abolished serfdom. But the Russian elite did this in their own way, releasing people with a piece of land. As a result, pushing the grain over the hill, they fattened on the corpses of peasants. https://topwar.ru/23913-kak-zhilos-krestyanam-v-carskoy-rossii-analitika-i-fakty.html
          5. BecmepH 27 December 2018 10: 33 New
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            Quote: Nick_R
            Well, save the tales about the genius of the ghoul of Stalin for the wife, if they turn her on.

            Nearby people turn to the individual. They choke with their own poison from resentment at all and everything ... Calm down ... breathe in, out of breath ...
        3. Vadim237 26 December 2018 16: 59 New
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          "It was a breakthrough into the future." - What the hell is the future, with this “savior” and its “savior” comrades, the Civil War, the surplus exploration, mass famine from the 17th year to 23, between the strife - the redistribution of power with the Trotskyists, the abolition of the New Economic Policy, the creation of collective farms, dispossession of land, Leva’s promise — to give them to the peasants — from the sealed carriage — was completely taken away from the people who became the beginning of the end of the village, as such, the youth began to leave this impoverished leveling, the second famine from 28 to 33, then the policy of terror and repression - the second Bolshevik internecine , the war with the Finns in the 39th to the 40th year - which the Bolsheviks themselves unleashed, the Great Patriotic War, the war with the forest brothers in the Baltic States from the 40th to the 53rd year, the declaration of all prisoners as traitors and a long showdown with them until the age of 53, the war against banditry at all in the territories previously occupied by the Germans, it was necessary even to send army generals for this, after the 46th repression “Doctors' Case”, “Uranium Affair” again, then the end - the Bolshevik elite ate itself, it was Beria who was later shot by the communists - not Bolsheviks. In principle, a worthy end, the power in which the people were personified by the expression "live power" and no industrialization and the atomic bomb, as a plus, will not outweigh the minus - tens of millions of citizens who died and suffered from the war, starvation of repression and other delights of Bolshevism - from 1917 to 53 years old, the bones of those events are still being dug up and will be dug up for a very long time.
          1. Pessimist22 26 December 2018 17: 48 New
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            Vadim, I’m reading an article and those who praise Dzhugashvili also always ask a question when they lived well under Stalin from 22 to 53 years old.
            1. TAMBU 26 December 2018 18: 58 New
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              with the same success, you can ask when they lived well ... in principle ....
          2. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 33 New
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            The Bolsheviks organized a civil war? What for? Today there is a confrontation between the rich and the poor. Is the Bolsheviks doing this? If they organized a civil war, then why did they end it? Did the Bolsheviks also organize hunger? Can I find out the motive for organizing hunger? If they organized hunger, why did they fight it? Can I list who was driving in a sealed car? There were four trains. Did everyone ride Lenin? Che are silent about other parties? Oh and porridge in your head!
            1. RX.
              RX. 27 December 2018 01: 01 New
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              Quote: Mr Credo
              The Bolsheviks organized a civil war?

              And who else?
              Quote: Mr Credo
              Did the Bolsheviks also organize hunger?

              And who else?
              Quote: Mr Credo
              Can I find out the motive for organizing hunger?

              Grandmas were needed. Between the grandmothers and the lives of Soviet slaves, the Bolsheviks chose grandmothers.
              Quote: Mr Credo
              If they organized hunger, why did they fight it?

              They did not fight with him. American food aid ended only because the Bolsheviks were caught in food exports at the moment when they imported it for free. In the form of help.
            2. Vadim237 27 December 2018 01: 09 New
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              You porridge - and hardened like cement.
          3. naidas 27 December 2018 00: 17 New
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            How bad it is to be a great country, how good it is now, it is not clear what is, pay for everything and live in a second-rate country.
        4. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 22: 41 New
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          Very interesting! Does an ogre mean? Shot means? And for whom, then, did he build cities, factories, schools, hospitals, roads, power plants ...? Why did the population and territory of Russia increase under him? What do you dislike about Juche's idea of ​​self-reliance !? Are you still hoping for mom? Can’t he even bring a spoon to his mouth?
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            RX. 26 December 2018 22: 53 New
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            Quote: Mr Credo
            And for whom, then, did he build cities, factories, schools, hospitals, roads, power plants ...?

            Slaves and chickens in a chicken coop are worth the money. Chickens build hens, koryamit and get vaccinated. Slaves need more. But the essence is the same.
            Quote: Mr Credo
            What do you dislike about Juche's idea of ​​self-reliance !?

            There, the essence is not in relying on one's own strength. And in maintaining the slave system in the country and the regime of sole ownership of this country (with all the giblets). And for these purposes, both Juche and Marxism-Leninism are suitable.
            1. Mr Credo 27 December 2018 00: 36 New
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              For what purpose did Stalin need slaves? Was he going to sell products? Which one? Where was he going to give the money? Who and how guaranteed him the safety of money? What was he going to keep and keep the money? Gold, pounds, dollars? Did he advance to the post by personal devotion, by the size of his personal condition, by the results of his work?
              1. RX.
                RX. 27 December 2018 00: 54 New
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                For what purpose did Stalin need slaves?

                To increase the power of the USSR. And this meant the relics of Dzhugashvili himself.
                He just didn’t succeed. Slaves, bad workers. And slave warders, bad workers. No wonder the slave-owning TPO relations in ancient times lost to the feudal. A feudal, capitalist.
                "Wise Stalin", a poorly educated man, having built a slave reserve in the USSR, tried to compete with bourgeois countries in production efficiency. And he was just funny.
                Do you understand?
                An illiterate dictator who did not even know the basics of economic history and polytechnomy. I tried to do something there on a global scale.
                And everywhere he flew. The only gesheft he succeeded in was the sale of Soviet cannon fodder to the Anglo-Saxons in the years 2MB. He did not succeed in anything else.
                Although no, I'm lying. After WW2, he brought from Germany German specialists in various fields of science and technology. And they did conduct the revolution in the USSR in the late 40s and early 50s. And on its basis, industrialization. Not the one that failed in the 30s. And the resulting, the second half of the 50s.
                In the 60s, as a result of industrialization, things went well in the USSR in general.
                But in the 70s the fuse passed.
                In the 80s there was stagnation (better known as stagnation).
                And in the 90s the USSR burst.
                It's simple, Carl. Everything is science.
                In the 80s of the USSR, a new victorious won against an advanced country of the world was needed. What was impossible, all such countries were already under American roof. And in itself, a slaveholding society is incapable of anything.
                1. Tashkent citizen 27 December 2018 07: 03 New
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                  "Wise Stalin", a poorly educated man, having built a slave reserve in the USSR, tried to compete with bourgeois countries in production efficiency. And he was just funny.
                  Do you understand?
                  An illiterate dictator who did not even know the basics of economic history and polytechnomy. I tried to do something there on a global scale.
                  And everywhere he flew. The only gesheft he succeeded in was the sale of Soviet cannon fodder to the Anglo-Saxons in the years 2MB. He did not succeed in anything else.

                  What a nasty libel.
                  RX - did you call IV Stalin an illiterate dictator?
                  I’m very interested in the fact that you, in your miserable and worthless life, have done such a great thing?
                  Maybe, under your strict guidance, they built factories, won the war, created a nuclear shield, and united the Church in 1943?
                  Than you personally so annoyed Comrade Stalin? What did he do to you?
                  Do you even understand that your personality and your thoughts can not be compared with the Personality of I.V. Stalin, and his realized plans.
                  Churchill and Roosevelt met with him and often did what Stalin intended.
                  Learn the story. And not according to Solzhenitsyn and Mannerheim.

                  PS You can not answer. With frank ignoramuses and anti-advisers (to say the least) I have nothing to talk about.
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                    2. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 31 New
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                      You are not a decent person ... but moral, if you treat the victims of our people in the Great Patriotic War and put our country on a par with England and America in their role in the Second World War, you are worse than those liberals broadcast periodically from TV screens
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                        RX. 27 December 2018 11: 39 New
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                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        if so, treat the victims of our people in the Great Patriotic War

                        How?
                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        and put our country on a par with England, America in their role in the second world war

                        This is your idol Dzhugashvili all turned this way. It was he who actually equalized the contributions of the USSR and France to the victory over Germany.
                        Will you argue that Germany was divided into 4 occupation zones? She herself is so divided or by someone else's decision?
                      2. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 13: 36 New
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                        You don’t distort my thought, my dear opponent, and if you call the fallen cannon fodder ... then how else can you characterize your attitude? Would you grind yourself as minced meat or let it really smell what powder, blood and human flesh smell like, then probably wrote and thought differently
                      3. RX.
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                        Quote: Andrey VOV
                        if you call fallen cannon fodder

                        No, you do not distort it. Dzhugashvili did not sell the fallen, but quite alive. They became fallen later, as a result of this diabolical deal of the Bolsheviks with the Anglo-Saxons.
                        And selling them, Dzhugashvili clearly understood that the victims would be colossal. But the interests of his beloved were closer to him. He wanted to sneeze on Soviet people and their lives.
                        - The Chinese of their victorious Generalissimo drove to the island, and if not for the Americans, they would have torn to pieces.
                        - The Ethiopian field marshal-winner miraculously remained in power. Having made great concessions to the people.
                        And only in the USSR after the war was there quietness and smoothness. This is because Soviet society in its development was much lower than Ethiopian. So the Bolsheviks worked on this before the war and during its course.
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                        Your favorite technique, go directly to global blablabla
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            2. avi1301 28 December 2018 19: 27 New
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              In the words of Golokhvastov: you are an uneducated pig, rx
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  2. naidas 26 December 2018 23: 53 New
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    cannibal and satan

    Then you are in an American labor camp or concentration camp on the basis of nationality.
    Everything is known in comparison, in the USA behind bars in 1938 there were much more people.
  • Vend 26 December 2018 18: 00 New
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    Later, but still
    1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 18: 11 New
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      Yeah, the cards were canceled. At the same time, in 1946-1948, we had a famine, even if NK is so large-scale Kaka in 32-33. And we also at this time exported bread to help fraternal Germany
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        RX. 26 December 2018 18: 54 New
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        And we also at this time exported bread to help fraternal Germany

        And fraternal France, the Bolsheviks also helped. After all, after the war, their economy was not yet established. Is it the case in the USSR ...
    2. RX.
      RX. 26 December 2018 18: 53 New
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      Quote: Wend
      but still

      Cards were canceled because there was nothing to redeem them. Thus, the population showed cookies, look for food yourself. And who did not find, we, the Bolsheviks, are not to blame.
      1. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 39 New
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        We introduced modern cards in the 90s. They are called the Russian ruble. They gave you a limited number of these cards, and spin as you can! Enlighten how life has improved after the 90s.
        1. RX.
          RX. 27 December 2018 01: 02 New
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          We introduced modern cards in the 90s. They are called the Russian ruble.

          I once saw a toilet covered with Soviet money. Those still candy wrappers were.
          Quote: Mr Credo
          Enlighten how life has improved after the 90s.

          If you are blind, then you will not be enlightened.
        2. Vadim237 27 December 2018 01: 14 New
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          Life has changed radically - for the better, and in the country corruption and bureaucracy, problems like all other countries.
      2. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 32 New
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        You’re talking nonsense again and again!
  • Vladimirsky 27 December 2018 10: 23 New
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    I won’t even argue that Stalin's ingenious invention was collective farms and state farms. And why, really, bother with these individual farmers, strong peasant farms, buy products from them for denyushki, if you can eliminate them under the slogan "everything is collective farm - everything is mine" and almost for nothing seize products. The main thing here is the beautiful slogans and the leading force of the party. True, the famine immediately came - 4-6 million died, but it’s as if we forget ....
    I’m embarrassed to ask, and if some Schwonder came to the author tomorrow to seize his AUDI (Renault, UAZ ....) in order to realize the utopian slogans of Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, how would he sing?
  • Underwater hunter
    Underwater hunter 26 December 2018 15: 15 New
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    "Olgovich" would be nice to read. That would not ask stupid questions.

    Dmitry, it’s not clear, what’s your comment?
    1. naidas 26 December 2018 23: 51 New
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      Yes, read Olgovich and it will be clear:
      - how bad that WWI veterans in the Izhevsk uprising did not defeat the Bolsheviks and how good it is that the veterans drowned the revolution in Germany in the blood. (hello to the creation of the Nazi party in Germany)
      - Leftist newspapers when they write complete nonsense about hunger in their countries (this cannot be) and correct when they write about hunger in the USSR (Black-Hundred "Bessarabian Post")
      - the poor peasants shot by bloody maniacs for years hunted for smuggling, and as soon as the Reds wanted to take (dispossess), they did not allow them to flee abroad.
      -Risinning peasants went from without source to the Reds (article on Kolchak) horse, armor and under saddles.
      -recently about scientists from RI-you can read for yourself.
  • RX.
    RX. 26 December 2018 16: 57 New
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    How Stalin saved Russia

    In much the same way that the Americans “saved” Hiroshima and Nashgasaki from bad Japanese militarism.
    And along with the British, Dresden from bad Nazism.
    Those. left after its socialism the ruins and remains of survivors.
    Some of everything that happened seems to be out of sorts. Praise the destroyer.
    1. Plate 26 December 2018 20: 54 New
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      remnants of survivors

      It is strange only that for some reason there were more remnants than those originally living.
    2. snake 26 December 2018 22: 44 New
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      Those. left after its socialism the ruins and remains of survivors.

      Left the ruins? The Americans would have left the ruins if under Stalin nuclear weapons had not been developed.
      Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including DneproGES, Uralmash, KhTZ, GAZ, ZIS, factories in Magnitogorsk, Chelyabinsk, Norilsk, Stalingrad. Which Chubais then sold for a penny to the nouveau riche. At the same time, over the past 20 years of democracy, not a single enterprise of this scale has been built.
      And so on and so forth. You can list endlessly. And this is after two world wars, in the conditions of the cold war. This is not a modern government, which was only tickled by sanctions - it rained down, plugging financial holes with pension copecks taken from the people.
      1. Consultant 26 December 2018 22: 53 New
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        Under Stalin, more than 1500 major industrial facilities were built, including ...

        Under Stalin, there was a virtually immense (and fenced off curtain from the rest of the world) market of the social camp. At the same time, for example, the quality of manufactured products (for example, mechanical engineering) did not play a special role; if they give it, then they eat it. We recall Lada, for example, we realize ...

        Quote: serpent
        no enterprises of this magnitude have been built in the last 20 years of democracy

        Well, "of this scale" is not needed. Firstly, the Russian Federation is not the Union, the needs are not the same. Secondly, technology has advanced greatly since the days of Stalin, and where 10000 workers were needed before, now, for example, five hundred are enough. And ninth, the market is open ... competition, sir.

        That's why they didn’t build it. There is no need, and it’s very difficult - to get into the already divided market, but with high-quality goods (you just won’t get involved with another, they won’t buy it).

        Quote: serpent
        modern power, which was only tickled by sanctions - it rained down, plugging financial holes with pension copecks taken from the people

        Not at all to the village. Budget surplus, what holes? I just had to, by the way? wink
        1. snake 26 December 2018 23: 13 New
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          Quote: Consultant
          Under Stalin, there was a virtually immense (and fenced off curtain from the rest of the world) market of the social camp. We recall Lada, for example, we realize ...

          Though inferior goods, but mine. Lada and now is not a fountain. And now the Russian Federation is not doing anything sensible for itself, nor can it give anything to the world market, except for raw materials.
          Quote: Consultant
          Well, "of this scale" is not needed. Firstly, the Russian Federation is not the Union, the needs are not the same.

          How so? Superpower are we or where?
          Quote: Consultant
          and where previously 10000 workers were needed, now, for example, five hundred are enough.

          Robots inject, not a man! But this is not about us. We have as many as 10000 workers, so to speak, relatively speaking, they work the same amount (I exaggerate a little). Because for 10 girls, according to statistics 9 guys:

          Quote: Consultant
          Not at all to the village. Budget surplus, what holes? I just had to, by the way?

          Why then retirees to shake? From a good life?
          1. RX.
            RX. 27 December 2018 01: 10 New
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            How so? Superpower are we or where?

            In general, what reality do you live in? According to the results of 2017, economically, the Russian Federation ranks 20th among 53 significant economies in the world. 0,4% of the whole world. Slightly smaller than Mexico and a little cooler than Israel.
            Spain is twice as large. Taiwan, three times. Italy five times. The United States is 81 times (31% of the world).
            You end with this terminology. They will laugh.
        2. Llur 27 December 2018 00: 07 New
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          Surplus? Lolshto? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeAx6l_xnX4 - that's the whole "surplus".
        3. Mr Credo 27 December 2018 00: 16 New
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          There have always been sanctions against the Bolsheviks. Did they help them in Civil? No! Helped White! In the 30s helped to build factories !? Then there was a global crisis. So they snapped up! But helped? Yeah! They helped and created a counterbalance in the person of Hitler. And who proposed the idea of ​​an iron curtain? Did they help us like that?
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            RX. 27 December 2018 01: 06 New
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            Quote: Mr Credo
            They helped and created a counterbalance in the person of Hitler.

            Gee-gee-gee.
            Quote: Mr Credo
            And who proposed the idea of ​​an iron curtain?

            THE USSR. He began to be fenced off from all fences and other engineering structures.
            1. Mr Credo 27 December 2018 01: 18 New
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              Was Churchill in the leadership of Stalin?
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                RX. 27 December 2018 09: 04 New
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                Quote: Mr Credo
                Was Churchill in the leadership of Stalin?

                It’s not easy to understand you. Learn Russian language.
            2. naidas 27 December 2018 17: 56 New
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              April 26, 2011 an article on VO.
              There was a stereotype that in the 1930s the USSR was a "closed country." However, even in the midst of Stalinist repressions, not to mention the end of the 1920s, people wrote out foreign newspapers, listened to foreign radio, and went on tour abroad. In turn, tens of thousands of foreign tourists and specialists came to the USSR.
              1. Nick_R 28 December 2018 14: 17 New
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                However, even in the midst of Stalinist repressions, not to mention the end of the 1920s, people wrote out foreign newspapers, listened to foreign radio, and went on tour abroad.

                It was a deal. Many because of such things were later sentenced to 58. The rest became smarter, that is, more careful.
                1. naidas 28 December 2018 14: 43 New
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                  How many are there? Read the article, the numbers there are different. Even if you take into account the civilian dispossession, the dispossession of the Russian Federation and the repressions, they are somewhat sluggish in comparison with the United States. And economic repressions in the 90s for those who did not fit into the market and became the victims rolls over altogether and no one picks.
                  For some reason, executions are crimes against humanity, and freeze in your apartment on the floor or at the hands of bandits with an iron on, like an accident or a simple criminal act.
                  1. Nick_R 28 December 2018 21: 23 New
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                    Read the article, there the numbers indicate different.

                    If your knowledge of Soviet history is limited to the information in this article, then I see no reason in a further dispute.

                    For some reason, executions are crimes against humanity, and freeze in your apartment on the floor or at the hands of bandits with an iron on, like an accident or a simple criminal act.

                    Because executions of innocent people on trumped-up (beaten out under torture) charges or simply because of class affiliation or belonging to another party is a CRIME. Explain why I will not, think for yourself. I am hinting that at about the same time, another authoritarian ruler lived in one European country, who also destroyed the “wrong-born” people and also destroyed his political opponents. True, his actions were condemned at the trial, like many tens of thousands of his minions. When we condemned the Stalin personality cult, only a few hundred people were put on trial.
                    Regarding "freezing in my apartment," I have not heard of such cases. Can you bring the facts?
                    But under Stalin, frozen among those who were expelled from their homes as a result of dispossession, there were many, many thousands. And they did not get into any official statistics of repressions.
                    1. naidas 28 December 2018 21: 40 New
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                      If you don’t have such knowledge, then there’s nothing to write, since you can’t refute the numbers. Protecting killers is certainly fashionable now and you look clean.
                      From the "Peasant newspaper" in April-June 1929 on the executions of fists. in April — June 1929
                      In Vologda, by the court’s verdict, the murderers of Selkor Bubnov — Andrei and Kuskov’s elders and the attempted murder of Selkor Zykov — Krasavin, were shot.

                      The Kiev court examined the case of a kulak attack on the commune "Zirka" in with. Roslavitsy, five kulak leaders were sentenced to six years in prison.

                      The former merchant, fist Ronzhin, who attempted to kill the social activist-party member Mamonov, was sentenced to death by the Vyatka regional court. Ronzhin three times in a few years set fire to the Mamonov’s house. In the past, Ronjin was the leader of a kulak rebellion. Fist accomplices sentenced to different terms of imprisonment.

                      In Ufa, the head court of Bashkiria sentenced to death two kulaks who killed in the winter the chairman of the village council, Comrade Romashenko.

                      In Frunze for the murder of the Komsomol member-Selkor Omelchenko was sentenced to be shot fist Zheltjak. His accomplices were sentenced to different terms of imprisonment.

                      Kokand. The case of the murder of activist Ziyaev in Handabad was investigated in Namangan. The crime was committed by a group of mullahs and their adherents after Ziyaev left the mosque, where he delivered a speech on the emancipation of a woman. The killers and their inspirers, among seven people, were sentenced to death, the remaining 15 defendants were sentenced to different terms of imprisonment.

                      The Chernihiv court sentenced to death two kulaks who killed, on the basis of class enmity, an active rural worker of the unprincipled Mosich.

                      ... The Kherson court sentenced Udovichenko to the fist, who committed the arson of the Red Star collective farm.

                      The Leningrad court ended the case of the killing of Selkor Krasavtsev with his fists. Alexei and Vasily Chistyakov and Grigoriev were sentenced to death, the rest of the accused were sentenced to imprisonment for different terms.

                      The Smolensk court ended the case of the murder of the chairman of the mutual assistance committee in the Monastery. Kovaleva. Criminals Pechorin and Kiriyenko sentenced to death.

                      Dnepropetrovsk District Court examined in with. Bug glory, the case of the killing with fists of the Komsomol activist Andrei Boyko. As it turned out in court, the decision to kill Boyko was made by local fists in a secret meeting. At the same meeting, they decided to kill the activist peasant and party candidate Lukyanov. The second kill, however, failed. Two fists, organizers of the murder, were sentenced to death, the other two - to 10 years in prison.

                      According to the verdict of the court in Bryansk, the murderers of the village commander Morozov Owl and Kozhukhov were shot.

                      In the Vinnitsa district in with. The new Krapivnaya exit session of the district court sentenced to be shot four kulak leaders who killed an unmarried peasant woman, a member of the election commission.

                      The Vyatka court sentenced Svetlov and Vorozhtsov to be shot for killing for the killing of peasant social activist Tarasov.

                      The Odessa court sentenced to death three kulaks who organized the murder of Komsomol activist Chemychev in the village of Tuzly.

                      During the campaign of re-election of councils in the village of Urvan Sukhinichny y. Kaluga lips. fists killed the social activist-hut Comrade Privorotov. The Gubsud, defining the murder as a terrorist act, sentenced a big fist, an instigator to kill Logachev, the direct killer of Mamayev, bribed by Logachev, and an accomplice in the murder of Pivovarov - to be shot.

                      In Nizhny Novgorod, the trial of the killers of the village social activist Grigory Frolov ended. The main defendant, Puchezhsky, was sentenced to death.

                      A visiting session of the Perm district court sentenced Berkutov’s fist from the Ochersky district to kill Comrade Kurochkin’s village journalist.

                      The Penza court sentenced the kulaks of Kirillin and Zareikin and the podkulaks Trutnev and Saraytsev to kill Selkor Korneev.

                      A visiting session of the Mordovian district court in with. Maidan sentenced to be shot fist Yudin, attempted to assassinate the chairman of the village council Yurzhonkov.

                      Belotserkovsky District Court sentenced V. Bereznyuk to be shot for attempted assassination of the village of Falcons.

                      The Perm court completed the attempted murder of the secretary of the Zaprudninsky village council and the village commander Antipyev. One defendant, Antipiev’s fist (namesake of the Selkor), was sentenced to death, two other defendants - to imprisonment for different terms.

                      In the Kiev region, [c] p. Shitovetsky listened to the case of a group of kulaks who brutally murdered the activist villager Melnichuk. The court sentenced four direct killers to execution.

                      Nezhinsky court sentenced two fists to be shot. Danin for the murder of activist peasant Ponomarenko.

                      The Main Court of Crimea in the village of Mushash completed the case of the murder of a rural social activist Alekseev, who was strangled with a rope, and his corpse was hidden in a cave in the forest. The murderer Mamerov was sentenced to death, his two accomplices - each 10 years in prison.

                      In Tulun, Novosibirsk okr. five fists sentenced to be shot for killing the chairman of the council Izegol t. Suranova.

                      The Ryazan court ended the murder case in the village of Byshusy Sasovsky. Komsomol social activist Volzhankin. The murder was carried out out of revenge. The killer Larin was sentenced to death. Another criminal, Zaitsev’s fist, was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

                      In the town of Azarichi, Mozyr okr. (Belarus) An off-site session of the district court heard the case of the murder of social activist Selkor Senko, who actively fought with the kulaks and anti-Soviet element. The killer - Korney Pinchuk - was sentenced to death.

                      In sec. Salt farms in Volhynia killed a rural activist, an unscrupulous Levkur. The murder was fisted. An investigation is underway.

                      The Vyatka court sentenced fists to be shot. Koktykh father and son Moshkin, who killed the peasant social activist Kolochigov. The partners in the murder were sentenced to imprisonment for different terms.

                      Well, protect these whites, Vlasovites, Balts who have cleared their countries of the wrong nation, and just criminals who filled up the lists of Stalinist repressions and who were rehabilitated in the 90s as fighters against the Soviet regime.
                      About a frozen pensioner from a newspaper from the 90s in Khabarovsk. There was no money to pay for being turned off, including by the military, well, this was recently possible to know.
          2. kuz363 27 December 2018 08: 57 New
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            The word "helped incorrectly. They help - it’s when it’s for nothing. But here the West received gold and foreign exchange reserves and invaluable art objects for their help. It’s better to say that they have earned it."
        4. Fireclown 27 December 2018 11: 47 New
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          Not at all to the village. Budget surplus, what holes? I just had to, by the way? wink

          Explain to me unreasonable why a surplus budget is so good?
          There is money, but we don’t know where to spend it? So?
      2. RX.
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        The Americans would have left the ruins if under Stalin nuclear weapons had not been developed.

        In fact, the USSR did not develop nuclear weapons at all.
        And until the beginning of the 60s, the USSR could undermine its nuclear weapons only in its backside. There were no delivery vehicles. And during the life of Dzhugashvili, nuclear weapons were in an experimental state.
        Quote: serpent
        Under Stalin, more than 1500 largest industrial facilities were built.

        The price is penniless. On the market day. They produced products that no one needs now. Now all the factories have turned into shopping malls. There was no one to sell their "offer".
        Quote: serpent
        At the same time, over the past 20 years of democracy, not a single enterprise of this scale has been built.

        In fact, a lot of things have been built. Look, this is on the Internet.
        But the production. this is primarily marketing. It makes no sense to build something if there is no marketing. And certainly what is not necessary to build, so these are industrial giants. Do not pay off.
        Quote: serpent
        plugging financial holes with pennies taken from the people.

        And under Dzhugashvili, most of the population did not pay pensions at all.
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          Quote: rx.
          In fact, the USSR did not develop nuclear weapons at all.

          As if the United States is not themselves either. But they brought to mind both us and "them."
          Quote: rx.
          And during the life of Dzhugashvili, nuclear weapons were in an experimental state.

          During the life of Dzhugashvili, they created so many basic starting conditions that later even under Kukuruznik they were able to realize many ideas.
          Quote: rx.
          The price is penniless. On the market day.

          Chubais, when they were selling, he said the same thing.
          Quote: rx.
          In fact, a lot of things have been built. Look, this is on the Internet.

          At this level, nothing has been built.
          Quote: rx.
          But the production. this is primarily marketing. It makes no sense to build something if there is no marketing.

          Sales could be organized internally. It's now wherever you spit - Made in China.
          Quote: rx.
          And under Dzhugashvili, most of the population did not pay pensions at all.

          And under Dzhugashvili, the country was raised from ruins. Young people and working hands were not enough - an echo of war.
          1. RX.
            RX. 26 December 2018 23: 28 New
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            Quote: serpent
            As if the United States is not themselves either.

            Like this? Where is it? In Honduras?
            Quote: serpent
            Chubais, when they were selling, he said the same thing.

            He did not deceive you.
            Quote: serpent
            At this level, nothing has been built.

            And again, why?
            Quote: serpent
            Sales could be organized internally.

            How?
            To do this, close the borders and start something like "build socialism." But it soon becomes clear that there is nothing to eat.
            Already passed once. And the DPRK in front of my eyes, again.
            Quote: serpent
            It's now wherever you spit - Made in China.

            International division of labor. All over the world like that.
            Quote: serpent
            And under Dzhugashvili, the country was raised from ruins.

            Shooting the population?
            Quote: serpent
            Young people and working hands were not enough - an echo of war.

            And who is to blame for the fact that:
            1. Was the USSR pulled into 2MB?
            2. Was the war so mediocre?
            Postman Pechkin?
            1. snake 26 December 2018 23: 54 New
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              Quote: rx.
              Like this? Where is it? In Honduras?

              In the Third Reich, dear Partigenigenoss.
              Quote: rx.
              He did not deceive you.

              Good joke! Just do not laugh something ...
              Quote: rx.
              And again, why?

              Putin said: "A breakthrough is needed." To break through, why else?
              Quote: rx.
              How?
              To do this, close the borders and start something like "build socialism." But it soon becomes clear that there is nothing to eat.

              First you need to have at least something to sell. Something of your own. But in the military-industrial complex, is the situation normal? Foreign tanks, planes, assault rifles do not buy? Can we when we want?
              Quote: rx.
              International division of labor. All over the world like that.

              Tell it industrialized Germany or France.
              Quote: rx.
              Shooting the population?

              Well, not without it, of course. Question: how much and for what?
              I tell you right away - don’t send me the lists. There are a million sources, the numbers differ by orders of magnitude, where the truth is God knows.
              Quote: rx.
              And who is to blame for the fact that:
              1. Was the USSR pulled into 2MB?
              2. Was the war so mediocre?
              Postman Pechkin?

              Can I get the “Call a friend” hint? I'll try it myself.
              1. Well, this is Hitler, without options.
              2. The question is incorrect. What does it mean "so mediocre"? Mediocre compared to whom? How did you know that? Did you have the opportunity to simulate other development options for World War II?
              1. RX.
                RX. 27 December 2018 00: 41 New
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                Quote: serpent
                In the Third Reich, dear Partigenigenoss.

                No, this is not so. And this fact is quite famous.
                Quote: serpent
                To break through, why else?

                You are already at war with someone and are surrounded?
                Quote: serpent
                from in the military-industrial complex is the situation normal?

                Yes?
                Quote: serpent
                Foreign tanks, planes, assault rifles do not buy?

                I would comment on that. But I do not want.
                Quote: serpent
                Tell it industrialized Germany or France.

                What to tell? What are their assembly lines in China? So they already know about it.
                Quote: serpent
                I tell you right away - don’t send me the lists. There are a million sources, the numbers differ by orders of magnitude, where the truth is God knows.

                Why lists? There are certificates of 1 special department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs on the number of people arrested and convicted in the period 1921 - the first half of 1953. from 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX
                Signed by I.O. Colonel Pavlov, Head of the 1st Special Department of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs
                There it is written in black and white that during this period 799 people were shot (only in court, and how many were tortured and shot without trial, no one knows). Of these, 455 1937 people were shot in 38-681.
                Imagine, huh? Almost 1000 people a day, every day. And so for two years.
                Quote: serpent
                1. Well, this is Hitler, without options.

                This does not happen. Of course, the final decision was made by Hitler. But only after the failure of the Soviet-German negotiations in the fall of 1940 in Berlin.
                Quote: serpent
                What does it mean "so mediocre"? Mediocre compared to whom? How did you know that? Did you have the opportunity to simulate other development options for World War II?

                I did not model anything. I simply compared the casualties of military personnel — 19 million Soviet troops versus 3,6 million German soldiers on the Eastern Front.
                Then I specified the figures for the loss of civilian population of the USSR — 23 million people.
                And he clearly understood that it was already impossible to wage a war without mediocrity.
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                  Quote: rx.
                  No, this is not so. And this fact is quite famous.

                  Here is a line from Wikipedia:
                  In 1938, Mr. Otto Gan, Fritz Strassmann, and Lisa Meitner discover the fission of a uranium nucleus when it absorbs neutrons. This is where the development of nuclear weapons begins.
                  Quote: rx.
                  You are already at war with someone and are surrounded?

                  Such a war on poverty is what is relevant. It’s also necessary to patch up the economy. And then all the oil and gas.
                  Quote: rx.
                  Yes?

                  Compared with the rest of the production - even as YES.
                  Quote: rx.
                  I would comment on that. But I do not want.

                  Well, this is a voluntary matter. You do not want - we do not insist.
                  Quote: rx.
                  What to tell? What are their assembly lines in China? So they already know about it.

                  "The production of cars and trucks is located in the lands of Baden-Württemberg, Rhineland-Palatinate, Lower Saxony, Hesse, North Rhine-Westphalia, Bavaria and Saar" - oh these Chinese names, you will break the language.
                  Quote: rx.
                  Of these, 1937 38 people were shot in 681-692.
                  Imagine, huh? Almost 1000 people a day, every day. And so for two years.

                  What is so small? Rumor has it that Stalin personally killed a million each day. And so for almost three years. In total, he shot a billion people.

                  "Boys, babies, grandfathers — Let the whole country know,
                  That all troubles are to blame, Stalin - hellish soton!
                  This can be confirmed - After all, anyone is sure!
                  Though Rezun, even Solzhenitsyn, Novodvorskaya, Acceleration ...
                  Stalin killed the Poets! He drowned the country in blood!
                  And with him - note this - There was no AshDiTiVi!
                  It’s also known about the war — Stalin ruined the army.
                  And almost Hitler came to Moscow, with his army ...
                  But, suddenly, three soldiers, Three soldiers from the penal battalion -
                  For three - one shovel, or rather, a stalk, -
                  Flew, ran, Surrounded and pressed,
                  And they fought for the whole country, They got an order.
                  But after the war, guys, there’s no justice!
                  Stalin from that penal battalion, All sent to the other world.
                  All one hundred thousand millions! This is only in Moscow!
                  And their beautiful little wives, I loaded two on barges ...
                  Drowned them - so it is necessary! Girls gone to the bottom
                  Three hundred thousand billion - This is the exact number!
                  Stalin their innocent children - One hundred and one quadrillion
                  I ate instead of sturgeon And cooked broth from them!
                  Overeating - that's the cattle! At this time, Ukraine,
                  Through his fault, cretin, All did not eat nifiga.
                  Starving, starving, Trilliard dying,
                  The rest were shot by the Power of the damned commies!
                  Happy New Year! Happy New Sea!
                  Happy New Holodomor!
                  In general, a clear picture: Stalin is a bastard, Stalin is a bastard!
                  He is a vampire, ghoul, cattle, And he is to blame for everything!
                  - What, you were robbed at night? - Did your wife leave you?
                  It's to blame, it’s clear exactly Stalin - hellish Soton!
                  - What, lowered your salary? - What, they fired completely?
                  The damned Stalin is guilty - Here it is clear to everyone!
                  - What, Sasha does not love you? - What, kicked?
                  Stalin is to blame, but what about! Stalin - and no one else!
                  Who yesterday ahem ... in the porch? Who broke my window?
                  Who drove along the sidewalks? Who translated the movie like that
                  That in it black suddenly turned white, The door became a rug,
                  And the car became chalk, But a woman - a man ?!
                  Who did all this? Who is this terrible bastard?
                  I’ll tear the covers boldly - THIS IS STALIN GUILTY !!! "
                  Posted by: Raccoon (Goblin Comrade)
                  Quote: rx.
                  This does not happen. Of course, the final decision was made by Hitler. But only after the failure of the Soviet-German negotiations in the fall of 1940 in Berlin.

                  That is, all this fascist ideology, Drang nakh Osten, the fight against Bolshevism is nothing?
                  Quote: rx.
                  And he clearly understood that it was already impossible to wage a war without mediocrity.

                  More recently, an interesting article was published on the issue of losses of the Soviet army:
                  https://topwar.ru/151454-o-poterjah-v-velikoj-otechestvennoj-esche-raz-i-s-nenavistju.html
                  Check it out.
                  1. RX.
                    RX. 27 December 2018 12: 39 New
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                    Quote: serpent
                    In 1938, Mr. Otto Gan, Fritz Strassmann, and Lisa Meitner discover the fission of a uranium nucleus when it absorbs neutrons. This is where the development of nuclear weapons begins.

                    Nope.
                    Quote: serpent
                    "The production of cars and trucks is located in the lands of Baden-Württemberg, Rhineland-Palatinate, Lower Saxony, Hesse, North Rhine-Westphalia, Bavaria and Saar" - oh these Chinese names, you will break the language.

                    By assembly of trucks and cars does the production of industrialized countries end?
                    By the way, the production of components for these assembly shops has long been in China.
                    Quote: serpent
                    Rumor has it that Stalin personally killed a million each day. And so for almost three years. In total, he shot a billion people.

                    And you rascal.
                    This may be about your close relatives.
                    You are "Ivan, not remembering kinship."
                    Quote: serpent
                    That is, all this fascist ideology, Drang nakh Osten, the fight against Bolshevism is nothing?

                    And here is the "fascist ideology"?
                    There was Nazism in Germany. Fascism was in Italy. Learn at least basic things.
                    Quote: serpent
                    More recently, an interesting article was published on the losses of the Soviet army.

                    It is not interesting to me. I prefer to read the documents.
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                      Quote: rx.
                      Nope.

                      Hmm ... Argumentation is not your forte.
                      Quote: rx.
                      By assembly of trucks and cars does the production of industrialized countries end?

                      This is an example I gave. In any case, these countries do not live off oil and gas.
                      Quote: rx.
                      And you rascal.
                      This may be about your close relatives.
                      You are "Ivan, not remembering kinship."

                      Of my relatives, no one was shot. Great-grandfather only a little dispossessed by the Bolsheviks, yes. Also in my circle of contacts I did not hear about repressed-executed relatives. So I’m Ivan, who doesn’t remember the negative of Stalin.
                      Quote: rx.
                      And here is the "fascist ideology"?
                      There was Nazism in Germany. Fascism was in Italy. Learn at least basic things.

                      Well Nazism, good. Does that make a big difference? In the context of our discussion, this is irrelevant. Now, if the main theme would be the political / ideological system in Nazi Germany, then yes, you could correct me.
                      Quote: rx.
                      It is not interesting to me. I prefer to read the documents.

                      What are you doing then on this site? Do you specialize in comments?
                    2. RX.
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                      Quote: serpent
                      Of my relatives, no one was shot.

                      Do you live outside society on the principle of "my hut with the edge"?
                      Quote: serpent
                      Well Nazism, good.

                      At first, Hitler did not need the USSR. And Drang was not needed. But fighting the Anglo-Saxons (and the situation was disastrous for him), he could not leave the rear unattended.
                      In the fall of 1940, he held talks with the USSR. And after their breakdown, he decided to attack the USSR.
                      It can be assumed that under another foreign policy of the USSR he could not have made such a decision.
                      It can be assumed that with a different outcome of the Hess mission there would be no war with the USSR. But here nothing depended on the USSR.
                      Like versions.
                      Quote: serpent
                      What are you doing then on this site? Do you specialize in comments?

                      Why, I read something. But not the topic you proposed. There are enough documents for me.
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                      Quote: rx.
                      Do you live outside society on the principle of "my hut with the edge"?

                      Well why. I wrote to you that in the society where I rotate, nobody talks bad about Stalin. Someone praises, someone does not care, but there are no complaints about him. Maybe because among my friends there are no artists and directors who were repressed, repressed, but not repressed. Also not familiar with all kinds of prisoners of conscience.
                      Quote: rx.
                      Can be assumedthat under another foreign policy of the USSR he could not have made such a decision.
                      Can be assumedthat with a different outcome of the Hess mission there would be no war with the USSR. But here nothing depended on the USSR.
                      Like versions.

                      You can assume. But it is impossible to replace the real story with an alternative one.
                      Quote: rx.
                      Why, I read something. But not the topic you proposed. There are enough documents for me.

                      It's weird. If you are so offended by this topic, it would be logical to assume that you should be interested in different sources.
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                      Quote: rx.
                      I, as a person fairly educated

                      I would also like to note your extraordinary modesty. But there is an opinion that it was during the USSR that Russia was the most advanced country in its entire history. All the same, outstanding results were achieved in the space sector, in industry, in medicine and in education.
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                      RX. 27 December 2018 23: 13 New
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                      Quote: serpent
                      I would also like to note your extraordinary modesty.

                      I have a lot of flaws. But this is not. I do not suffer from modesty.
                      Quote: serpent
                      But there is an opinion that it was during the USSR that Russia was the most advanced country in its entire history.

                      I already wrote that Russia was not at all during the USSR.
                      Quote: serpent
                      All the same, outstanding results were achieved in the space sector, in industry, in medicine and in education.

                      At the propaganda level of Sovagitrop.
                      About Education, look how many the USSR had Nobel prizes and you will understand everything.
                      About medicine, look how much they lived in the USSR and look in films how Soviet actresses look. At 45, they are already ancient old women. And all from the "excellent Soviet natural nutrition" and "excellent Soviet medicine." Even Brezhnev’s denture was made in Germany.
                      About industry and completely funny. Where is she now, this industry? Who needs it with open borders? only in conditions of shortage of goods could it exist.
                      Who in general needs this Space sphere? I still can’t understand the calf’s delight of the crowd regarding the picking ball, Squirrel, Strelka and Gagarin.
                      No, why was this needed? I understand the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU. I perfectly understand why cosmos designers needed this. ships and astronauts. But why did the rest need it? Unclear.
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                      Quote: rx.
                      I already wrote that Russia was not at all during the USSR.

                      It was called the RSFSR.
                      Quote: rx.
                      About Education, look how many the USSR had Nobel prizes and you will understand everything.

                      Look at how many there are now, and you will already understand.
                      Quote: rx.
                      About medicine, look how much they lived in the USSR and look in films how Soviet actresses look. At 45, they are already ancient old women.

                      Because Soviet actresses gave all their strength to the role. These are not modern actresses who can’t even play normally. But constantly wander around the beauty salons.
                      Quote: rx.
                      About industry and completely funny. Where is she now, this industry?

                      Where, where ... Chubais, conditional and concrete, ruined her darling.
                      Quote: rx.
                      Who in general needs this space sphere? I still can’t understand the calf’s delight of the crowd regarding the picking ball, Squirrel, Strelka and Gagarin.

                      Compared to Star Wars, it certainly looks pale. Neither space cruisers, nor Darth Vader, nor the Jedi. But in the real world, these were great achievements. It was, tassat, the quintessence of Soviet science and technology.
                      Quote: rx.
                      But why did the rest need it? Unclear.

                      This was a bright dream. There was pride in the country.
  • Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 44 New
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    Now let’s hear about the tug of Tsar Boris and Tsar Vladimir! Well! I have all the attention! Where and in what did they surpass Stalin?
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      Quote: Mr Credo
      Now let’s hear about the tug of Tsar Boris and Tsar Vladimir! Well! I have all the attention! Where and in what did they surpass Stalin?

      Jerks are very powerful. With every jerk, another bottom breaks through. I liked how Jacob Kedmi said about Stalin: "He was the only ruler in the 20th century who did not care about Russia."
  • Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 34 New
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    And in your opinion it was necessary to surrender to Hitler? Yes or no?
  • naidas 27 December 2018 17: 51 New
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    Well, there was another way the United States went in the 30s, we in the 90s didn’t fit into the market by starvation, shooting, soldering irons and irons, migration. (1 million a year).
    As I understand the destroyer Stalin is not to your liking, do you prefer the democrat Yeltsin and an iron in a soft place from strong guys?
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    Underwater hunter 26 December 2018 15: 11 New
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    A wonderful and truthful article. Stalin is sorely lacking now. Russia needs a breakthrough, otherwise we will come to what the Romanovs finished. And rightly, first a dream, a goal. Further actions. And of course you need a personality. In general, there is a program and a goal; a strong personality is needed.
    1. atos_kin 26 December 2018 15: 20 New
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      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      In general, there is a program and a goal; a personality is needed strong.

      There is no party of workers. All personalities are there.
      1. Ross xnumx 26 December 2018 15: 54 New
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        Quote: atos_kin
        No Workers Party. All personalities are there.

        Now can you dig deeper? Guess once, why in Russia for a quarter of a century production (heavy and light industry) has not been created (restored)? Why is the country so low the percentage of citizens engaged in creative work? That is why. yes
    2. Blacksmith 55 26 December 2018 20: 09 New
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      To Stalin, one fat minus for the repression and terror in the USSR.
      That's right, he did a lot for the country, but without repressions he would undoubtedly have done more.
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        but without repression I would certainly do more.

        Without repression, he would not have done anything, because feudalism and the slave system, the building of which he was engaged in the guise of socialism, is not possible without terror. As the collapse of the USSR showed
        1. Sanya Terek 26 December 2018 22: 38 New
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          Without repression, he would have done nothing ...

          Had he done anything or not, this is a question. And so that your grandfather or father did not fly out with the smoke into the pipes of Majdanek, this is what HE MADE.
          1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 22: 45 New
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            This is exactly what my grandfathers and millions of other grandfathers did. Despite the treacherous stupidity of Stalin, for a fraction of the percent of which he should have been shot according to the law. He only after the failure near Kharkov had the intelligence not to meddle in command and control.
            Incidentally, if it were not for Stalin and the Bolsheviks as a whole, then the war with Germany in that form would simply not have happened. Hitler skillfully played on the contradictions of the Western European powers and the USSR. If Russia continued to exist in the format of an empire or republic, Germany would have been crushed still.
            1. naidas 27 December 2018 00: 29 New
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              If Russia continued to exist in the format of an empire or republic

              You have in the format of small states controlled by the West., Then yes Hitler could not pump money.
        2. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 54 New
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          And when the son of an oligarch becomes an oligarch? The son of a deputy, a deputy? The son of an official, an official? Is it labor dynasties or feudalism? Or a caste society?
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            Quote: Mr Credo
            Is it labor dynasties or feudalism? Or a caste society?

            According to the laws of the development of society, following the slave-owning society, feudal always ensues. And never, bourgeois. This comes after the feudal.
            Serfdom was abolished in the middle of the 18th century. But socialism fell at the end of the 20th century.
            In total, we have 150 delinquencies ... Russia years. And as if this is not lagging forever.
      2. tatra 26 December 2018 21: 33 New
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        Political repressions were, are and will be in all countries of the world that captured the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe, Stalinophobes, believe that they themselves have every right to carry out political repressions both against the Communists and their supporters, and against each other.
        1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 22: 49 New
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          Tell us how many Communists and their supporters of Stalinophobia were shot over the past 27 years for political reasons. Well, or at least slapped a dozen colonies.
          1. atos_kin 26 December 2018 23: 34 New
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            If the Communists and their supporters were shot in time for the collapse of the Union, then over the past 27 years the number of the Russian Federation would not have decreased without war by 13 million people. And how many were not born, then for this they did not stop hanging.
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            Stalinophobes starved to death, shot and brought to suicide millions. It is strange to not know Soviet history, but even more strange to not know the history of the 90s.
          3. naidas 27 December 2018 00: 33 New
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            Why shoot can be deprived of livelihood as it was in the 30s in the United States, and you can continue the tradition (like Chaplin) then, according to this tradition, in the modern West there is no opposition as a class-extinct.
      3. Nyrobsky 26 December 2018 21: 55 New
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        Quote: smith 55
        To Stalin, one fat minus for the repression and terror in the USSR.
        That's right, he did a lot for the country, but without repressions he would undoubtedly have done more.

        Yeltsin without repression reduced the population of Russia by various estimates by 6-8 million people, lost a huge number of territories, ruined agriculture through the elimination of collective farms and state farms, ditched thousands of plants and factories and drove Russia into debt bondage to the West.
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          ruined agriculture through the liquidation of collective farms and state farms,

          Comrade dreamer, where are you from? Russia now produces as much agricultural products as the RSFSR could only dream of. Unless they caught up with milk and beef
          1. Nyrobsky 26 December 2018 23: 44 New
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            Quote: Nick_R
            ruined agriculture through the liquidation of collective farms and state farms,

            Comrade dreamer, where are you from? Russia now produces as much agricultural products as the RSFSR could only dream of. Unless they caught up with milk and beef

            Theorist, have you changed shoes for boots for a long time to walk along the farmland of central Russia, the North and the Trans-Urals? The villages became extinct, and the land was overgrown with hogweed. Who will raise fallow lands? The youth left. In some places, individual farmers and private traders flounder a little, and this is because they are hostages to regional unemployment, because there is nowhere to go. This is the result of the reforms of Yeltsin and his team of reformers. I do not argue, today there are agricultural products that are produced by large agricultural holdings, but these are the South of Russia and Altai, but Russia is much larger in both breadth and longitude. Yes, we are the leaders in pork, poultry and grain, but we simply do not have enough granaries and elevators because the old ones were destroyed and the new ones were not built. We buy seeds abroad, because selection and seed production were killed. Pus fish or sell to China, Korea and Japan because there are no freezers and processing facilities, but what gets on the shelves, at a penny cost of production, is for some reason more expensive than meat.
        2. Blacksmith 55 27 December 2018 21: 49 New
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          Article about Stalin. We’ll talk about Yeltsin another time.
          It is possible that he is many times worse than Stalin, he developed industry, Yeltsin was falling apart.
          I condemn Stalin for repression.
          Yeltsin and Gorbachev - one pair of boots.
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            Quote: smith 55
            Article about Stalin. We’ll talk about Yeltsin another time.
            It is possible that he is many times worse than Stalin, he developed industry, Yeltsin was falling apart.
            I condemn Stalin for repression.
            Yeltsin and Gorbachev - one pair of boots.

            two of a Kind
      4. Mr Credo 26 December 2018 23: 49 New
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        Is capitalism a repressive or creative system? Why are there so many beggars under capitalism?
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          Quote: Mr Credo
          Is capitalism a repressive or creative system?

          There are no such systems.
          Capitalism is a socio-economic formation. Today, the highest. Consists of several phases of development.
          But you do not strain. You, if in capitalism, then only through emigration.
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          Why are there so many beggars under capitalism?

          What nonsense. Where did you notice them?
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            But you do not strain. Youif in capitalism, then only through emigration.

            I understand that you are already in capitalism and without emigration? And after that, you tell us about life in Russia?
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              And after that, you tell us about life in Russia?

              This is not for me. I traditionally do not comment on the events after the demise of socialism. I can only briefly note that I welcome this very end of socialism, as a person free from the installations of a totalitarian sect.
    3. Plate 26 December 2018 20: 58 New
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      In general, there is a program and a goal; a personality is needed strong.

      Even if such a person appears, how can she come to power without destroying the country?
      By the way, where can I look at the program? I am sure that this program will not consist of slogans in the style of “introduce executions for corruption” and the like.
      1. Llur 27 December 2018 00: 20 New
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        What a pity ... Why is there still no legislative condemnation of 90s reforms at the legislative level? Pension reform is the result of those reforms, but there is no condemnation ...
    4. Tashkent citizen 27 December 2018 12: 20 New
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      Stalin is sorely lacking now. Russia needs a breakthrough, otherwise we will come to what the Romanovs finished.

      I absolutely agree.
      And, in my humble opinion, we will come to what the Romanovs finished much faster than it seems at first glance.
      All "progressive humanity" has sharpened such a tooth on Russia. The only thing that stops them is the presence of nuclear weapons.
  • Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 15: 18 New
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    My great-grandfather, shot in 37, probably seeing me reading this in a coffin, turned over ...
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      Quote: Bull Terrier
      My great-grandfather, shot in 37, probably seeing me reading this in a coffin, turned over ...

      You know, in my family too there were victims from that time. My great-grandfather came from the war, which he went through from start to finish, and in the company of "friends" drinking, began to tell all the horrors, not embarrassed in expressions, including how they retreated. In general, someone reported. And they closed their great-grandfather for 10 years. I served 8 years. Two years later he died. But, grandmother, the daughter of her father, until the last day, kept in a visible place, together with the icons, a portrait of Stalin. And she always said that this is the only leader who has done so much for the people that his place along with the icons. Like this. There was such a time, in the article the author described him well.
      1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 15: 29 New
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        do not make yourself an idol and any likeness,
        heaven is woe, and a fir tree on the earth below, and a fir tree in the waters
        underground: do not worship them, nor serve them

        Do not make yourself an idol, nor any image of that
        what's in heaven above, and what's on earth below, and what
        in the waters underground: do not worship them and do not serve them
        1. Underwater hunter
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          Quote: Bull Terrier
          do not make yourself an idol and any likeness,
          heaven is woe, and a fir tree on the earth below, and a fir tree in the waters
          underground: do not worship them, nor serve them

          Do not make yourself an idol, nor any image of that
          what's in heaven above, and what's on earth below, and what
          in the waters underground: do not worship them and do not serve them

          And the fact that the portrait of Putin in every office is what do you think?
          1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 15: 38 New
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            I have no idea. I do not suffer such nonsense.
            1. Conductor 26 December 2018 16: 10 New
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              Do you wear it in a purse?
              1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 16: 17 New
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                Why should I wear it at all?
                1. Conductor 26 December 2018 18: 17 New
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                  I clarified, without any such thing, I have at the cottage photo portraits of Hemingway and Jeb Stewart hanging, who is the second I recognized at the age of 25)))
                  1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 18: 23 New
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                    I have two daughters so whose photos I have everywhere and so it is clear)))
                    1. Conductor 26 December 2018 19: 34 New
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                      Everything that I hung, modestly so, post-war portraits of grandfathers and grandmothers.
                    2. Llur 27 December 2018 00: 25 New
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                      To create a family, you need two - a guy and a girl. To increase the population, more than 2 children are needed in each family, and in Russia the average figure is 1, 78. And what was the birth rate for the “bloody ghoul”? Oh, and how so - a bloody ghoul, and the birth rate went off scale.
                      1. Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 00: 27 New
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                        in North Korea, too, fertility is good. 2.1 now. give more examples in the subject?)))
                      2. Llur 31 December 2018 13: 59 New
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                        The example is extremely incorrect. In prosperous Europe, the birth rate is falling; in the Soviet Union, it has grown. And North Korea is a good country.
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                        Quote: Llur
                        And North Korea is a good country.

                        So go live there, since you like everything there.
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                        And do not tell me what to do.
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                        TTi 1 January 2019 14: 12 New
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                        And do not tell me what to do.

                        I care about you. I want you to live in a country that you don’t like living. And in the "good country" (your assessment) of the DPRK.
              2. Nick_R 28 December 2018 15: 06 New
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                And you compare the population growth during the USSR and the late Romanovs, and then you will understand how "good" Soviet citizens multiplied and multiplied.
                If you are too lazy to look, then here they are:
                In 1897 the population of the Russian Empire 129 142 thousand people. In 1914 178 379 thousand people. Over 17 years, population growth was 38%.
                In 1920, the USSR was 137 thousand people. After 727 years in 17. 1937 thousand people An increase of 164%. That is, TWICE less than under the kings. Moreover, the base was taken in 500, when in the USSR there was a demographic pit after the civil war, and according to the laws of demography, the peak of fertility always follows the pit.
                And for seven years since 1920. the population grew by 9,25%, while in the eight "golden" Stalin years from 1929 to 1937. the increase was 6,67%. Life has become better, life has become more fun.
  • Vadim237 26 December 2018 17: 05 New
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    They only weigh in government offices - as it should be. And in the rest - as you want, you can hang, you can not hang, your business
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      They only weigh in government offices - as it should be.

      Who should be? This is the usual sloppiness of our nomenclature, just introduced into mass use by the modest comrade Stalin
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        Aha Stalin personally introduced, walked and hung! And before him portraits of kings in all government institutions did not hang? Humble they were all where Stalin was before them.
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          If you wanted to live, then at least a bald line would be hung. Not recognizing the great role of the leader is 58 without talking
          1. flint 26 December 2018 20: 45 New
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            And where does the recognition or not the great role of the leader? I say that a portrait in the office or at home of a leader, king, secretary general, guru or any other boss is a long tradition that originated long before Stalin. Why hang all the dogs on him?
          2. Mr Credo 27 December 2018 00: 01 New
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            What are you! Wow! And if Stalin’s tattoo on his body is filled? Will you be unenforceable? This is such a guardian? And why then sat with a portrait and with a tattoo?
    2. Conductor 26 December 2018 18: 18 New
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      I, twice, saw portraits of Putin at the collectors !!!
      1. Vadim237 26 December 2018 19: 52 New
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        This is their own business - I personally have not a single portrait on the wall.
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        I, twice, saw portraits of Putin at the collectors !!!

        You go to collectors too often. Tie up with this affair.
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    Do not make yourself an idol, nor any image of that
    what's in heaven above, and what's on earth below, and what
    in the waters underground: do not worship them and do not serve them

    Ok, yes, but what about the icons?
    1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 15: 48 New
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      the second commandment, of those that were bequeathed to Moses by God, says that it is not proper for a person to lose his mind in front of someone earthly or something material. God must always come first in life, because he is the only creator of the world and the bearer of life. that makes sense.
      1. Sanya Terek 26 December 2018 22: 48 New
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        ... but what about the icons?

        You were asked a specific question, and you pour water about the commandments.
        1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 22: 56 New
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          I don’t pour anything. do not understand the answer is your troubles
      2. naidas 27 December 2018 00: 38 New
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        God must always come first in life

        then I am an atheist - in the first place is the family and its well-being.
  • avi1301 26 December 2018 17: 06 New
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    current morons and in those conditions. They can’t cope with a normal country
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      You would not have done the same - alas.
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        I do not claim power unlike them. It was called a cargo-climb into the body and do not whine that you can not.
  • Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 22 New
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    But, grandmother, the father’s daughter, until the last day, kept in a visible place, together with the icons, a portrait of Stalin

    That's right, they explained to your grandmother using an accessible example: if you want to live, don’t even think about saying a word against Stalin. Apparently in your family, this installation is stigmatized at the genetic level.
  • Fitter65 26 December 2018 15: 39 New
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    My great-grandfather, shot in 37, probably seeing me reading this in a coffin, turned over ...

    And for what was he shot? Let's plaint the tale of the evil GPUshniki -NKVDshnikami here slap us. And judging by the amount of scum that the Nazis ran to help, it turns out that the NKVD worked poorly, how many were not shot. And then somehow they showed on TV, on the memory day of the victims of repressions, two unfortunate daughters of innocent shot, though according to these “daughters” it turned out that they were born a little later than the mothers were shot, but these are trifles ... Yes, and how do you know what your Great-grandfather shot? After all, the whole family of the repressed, according to the liberals, was also repressed, and they all necessarily starved to death in the camps, so you shouldn’t be there, according to what our liberals are carrying, spoiling our past. You are also from that the past of our (not your) country?
    1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 15: 46 New
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      I know my family history very well. still collecting grandfather documented. I don’t need to ask all kinds of stupid questions here, I probably know for sure. we’re not collecting for some nonsense, but just so that the family would know their story.
      1. Fitter65 26 December 2018 15: 49 New
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        Quote: Bull Terrier

        I know my family history very well. still collecting grandfather documented. I don’t need to ask all sorts of stupid questions like I know for sure

        Well, why did they shoot the enemy? And the family of the enemy was pardoned? And not TYPE, but TYPE.
        1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 15: 58 New
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          58 article. great-grandmother left for the other end of the country where she died after 3 years. son i.e. My grandfather graduated from the machine gun school and did not receive the officer rank and ended the war as a sergeant. it's all maternal.
          1. Rusland 26 December 2018 16: 29 New
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            Bull Terrier hi They don’t understand this, maximalists, for them there is only black and white, and shades of gray, as with you and with many innocently ruined and trampled, they do not take into account, not of evil of course, but still. drinks
            1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 16: 32 New
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              Yes, I actually do not prove anything. I just know the story of my family and, to put it mildly, I don’t understand these races with Stalin. here the point of view is important. on the one hand, it’s stupid to deny that in his time the country was moving in huge steps, but at what cost ...
          2. Fitter65 26 December 2018 16: 39 New
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            Quote: Bull Terrier
            58 article.

            Can you be more specific? On which point of the article do you know there are so many interesting things in 58
            58-2. Armed uprising, any action with the intention of forcibly tearing away any part of its territory from the Soviet Union or invading in order to seize power: shooting or declaring the enemy an enemy workers with confiscation of property and deprivation of citizenship of the Union Republic and, thereby, citizenship of the USSR and expulsion from the Union The SSR is forever, with the possibility, under extenuating circumstances, of reduction to imprisonment for a term of not less than three years, with the confiscation of all or part of the property.

            there are mitigating ones - and on it a reptile 3,5 years about how.
            From 1921 to 1953, 3 people were convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes, including 777 people were sentenced to capital punishment.

            I agree a lot, but you can’t even compare how many people were sitting without trial in the democratic USA, by the way, Guantanomo never happened ... But on the other hand, along this 58, the Vlasov and devotees went along with other traitors to the homeland. So, to pity your great-grandfather, the enemy of the people who were legally punished in due time, in the severity of the law corresponding to that
            time. There are complaints, I think that I'm wrong, this is your problem. A - "THE THIEF SHOULD BE SITTING IN PRISON." N
            1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 16: 53 New
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              58.6 and watch your tongue.
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                58.6 and watch your tongue.

                Espionage, in favor of a foreign state. A lot of such unidentified policemen’s seams later, and simply helped the occupiers ...
                1. Bull Terrier 27 December 2018 00: 18 New
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                  my great-grandfather is not one of them. like hundreds of thousands like him.
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                58-6. Espionage i.e. transfer, abduction or collection for the purpose of transferring information that is specially protected as a state secret to foreign states, counter-revolutionary organizations or private individuals entails - imprisonment for a term of not less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of the property, and in cases where espionage caused or could cause especially grave consequences for the interests of the USSR, the highest measure of social protection is execution.
            2. Vadim237 26 December 2018 17: 20 New
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              In the USSR, Guantanomo was a good substitute for Sharashka, concentration camps and executions, and after the asylum, for everyone who was against the government or spoke critically about it.
              1. Fitter65 27 December 2018 00: 22 New
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                Quote: Vadim237

                In the USSR, Guantanomo well replaced Sharashka, concentration camps and executions,

                You know this question very poorly. Firstly about concentration camps. In the USSR there were forced labor where people were sent to court. This is the first. In the USSR, for several years people were not kept without trial or investigation. All acts of both investigators and convicts were based on the CPC. Where the actions of all persons are described in detail. read at your leisure so that you don’t write such nonsense. About the sharashka, as I understand it, you generally just heard something about the sharashmontazh office ...
                1. Vadim237 27 December 2018 01: 20 New
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                  Sharashka of the NKVD, as it was a prison, it remained a prison - at that time anyone could be put in jail, one denunciation - even from the start and after that, life turns into a nightmare.
        2. Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 03 New
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          Fitter, apparently your ancestors from the GPU and shot? Apple from the apple tree. . .
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            Quote: Nick_R
            Fitter, apparently your ancestors from the GPU and shot? Apple from the apple tree. . .

            My ancestors from Siberia, raised bread, built the Novosibirsk Opera and Ballet Theater, and then in January 1942 there was one without Moscow, the other two reached the end of the war, one as a driver, the other in the infantry. That is, they worked for their country, and defended it when they had to, like many people who served in the GPU. And for a piece of sausage and beautiful clothes were not for sale.
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  • Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 00 New
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    my great-grandfather was shot in 37

    I am sorry for you, but if he was shot precisely in 37g, then most likely he himself belonged to the party nomenclature. Then Stalin finished off the remnants of the Lenin Guard, as well as the remnants of the opposition and those who knew too much, for example, participated in previous sweeps.
    1. Bull Terrier 26 December 2018 17: 06 New
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      and what does it change? the reasons are secondary. the fact itself is important. I have always recognized him as a historical figure. and maybe at that time it could not be otherwise. but I really do not understand the desire of people to admire him.
      1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 33 New
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        For you, I think it really does not change anything.
        And Stalin, yes, a historical figure. Such a huge black spot in our history. Like Hitler in Germany. Only in the same FRG they do not shout at every corner "we would have a new Hitler!" But where do we get such screamers I can’t imagine.
        1. RX.
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          Quote: Nick_R
          But where do we get such screamers I can’t imagine.

          Do not compare Dzhugashvili with Hitler. Hitler, in historical terms, though a villain. But as a villain, he is petty and primitive in comparison with Dzhugashvili. But Dzhugashvili is a big villain. Very large. Huge, you could even say that. And I do not know who will be able to compare with him in terms of atrocities and negative consequences. Unless the bubonic plague that raged in Europe in the Middle Ages.
        2. kotvov 27 December 2018 14: 08 New
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          Such a huge black spot in our history,
          what is yours? Polonsky-shuvalov-chubais? do you hear yourself, mister lost? your tsar-father Peter I halved Russia, and his Putin considers an example. so, pray to Vlasov, this is the Russia that you lost.
  • Underwater hunter
    Underwater hunter 26 December 2018 17: 13 New
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    My great-grandfather, shot in 37, probably seeing me reading this in a coffin, turned over ...

    In general, for all the time Stalin’s rule, about two million four hundred thousand people were convicted under political articles of which about four hundred thousand were executed. This is a documented fact.
    1. RX.
      RX. 26 December 2018 17: 29 New
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      In general, for all the time Stalin’s rule, about two million four hundred thousand people were convicted under political articles

      According to the certificate 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX POLITICAL ONLY:
      1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 people.
      2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
      3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
      4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 1 people.
      Total 4 664 719 people.
      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      About four hundred thousand were shot from them.

      The certificate does not indicate who was shot for what. But the numbers are:
      1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 people.
      2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
      3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 people.
      4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 54 people.
      Total 929 569 people.
      http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312
      1. Underwater hunter
        Underwater hunter 26 December 2018 17: 31 New
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        Quote: rx.
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        In general, for all the time Stalin’s rule, about two million four hundred thousand people were convicted under political articles

        According to the certificate 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 1 people.
        Total 4 664 719 people.
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        About four hundred thousand were shot from them.

        The certificate does not indicate who was shot for what. But the numbers are:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 54 people.
        Total 929 569 people.
        http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312

        You have data along with ordinary criminals. I write about the political.
        1. RX.
          RX. 26 December 2018 17: 33 New
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          You have data along with ordinary criminals. I write about the political.

          What other criminals? Only political.
          Link look weak?
          1. Underwater hunter
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            Quote: rx.
            http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312

            I’m throwing a lot of links like this now. For example:
            http://moskva.bezformata.com/listnews/dannih-o-repressiyah-v-stalinskoe-vremya/27917592/
            But even here, the inflated data, Maxim Shevchenko, cited the data that was provided to Khrushchev when that cult was preparing to expose. Everything is confirmed by numbers and 100% reliable. And according to those data, about 400 tons of people were shot during the reign of Stalin, and it was according to polit. articles.
            1. RX.
              RX. 26 December 2018 17: 48 New
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              I’m throwing a lot of links like this now.

              I gave you a link to the document. What do you want me to do? For someone's chatter.
              Do you think these are equivalent links?
              1. Underwater hunter
                Underwater hunter 26 December 2018 17: 51 New
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                Quote: rx.
                Quote: Underwater Hunter
                I’m throwing a lot of links like this now.

                I gave you a link to the document. What do you want me to do? For someone's chatter.
                Do you think these are equivalent links?

                Exactly the same chatter as yours. What is the difference in your opinion? There, what is the photo of archival documents?
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        3. Wizzzard 26 December 2018 22: 44 New
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          Well, of course.
          www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond

          Yakovlev Foundation. It would be worth more references to the Gorbachev Foundation, the Yeltsin Center and all the numbers of Ogonyok of the kingdom of the scoundrel Korotich.
      2. Mcar 26 December 2018 19: 47 New
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        Are you tired of lying?

        Quote: rx.
        The certificate does not indicate who was shot for what. But the numbers are:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 977 people.

        In fact, there is another figure - 23 391 people. And not for the years 28-29, but from 1921 to 1929.

        Quote: rx.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 220 people.

        In fact, there is another figure - 681 692 people.

        Quote: rx.
        According to the reference 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX, ONLY POLITICAL:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 381 people.

        In fact, there is another figure - 208 863 people. And not for the years 28-29, but from 1921 to 1929.

        Quote: rx.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.

        In fact, there is another figure - 1 391 093 people.

        Quote: rx.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.

        In fact, there is another figure - 1 344 923 people.

        Are you not ashamed in such matters?

        This time. Secondly. We read article 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR and note that among political articles most of what is now considered criminal offenses against society and the state, and especially large-scale economies: treason against the Motherland, participation in anti-Soviet conspiracies, terror, sabotage, espionage, illegal border crossing, smuggling, sabotage, rebellion, refusal to work in the camp, escaping from places of detention (the last two were called counter-revolutionary sabotage!).

        Thirdly, “victims of the totalitarian regime” can be called more or less plausible convicts on the following points: Anti-Soviet agitation; Family members of traitors to the motherland; A socially dangerous element - 3 points out of 15. All the rest are terry bandits under article 58.

        And finally, everything is relative. Pay attention to Art. 58-10 (anti-Soviet agitation): "Propaganda or agitation containing a call to overthrow, undermine or weaken Soviet power ... Imprisonment on no less than six months. "
        Let's compare:
        - "Article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Public calls for extremist activities ... by deprivation of liberty on up to three years... imprisonment on up to five years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions ...

        PS. And like a cherry on a cake so that it doesn’t rub your neck: Of the total number of convicts not sent to BMN, six hundred and a thousand were sentenced to exile and deportation. Of course, punishment, but not a prison, not a colony. Yes, and there was, see, for what.

      3. RX.
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        Quote: rx.
        According to the reference 1 of the Special Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR dated 11.12.1953/XNUMX/XNUMX, ONLY POLITICAL:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 256 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 1 people.
        Total 4 664 719 people.

        A number of numbers are incorrect (I didn’t look there). The correct numbers are:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 204 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 1 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 1 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 1 people.
        Total 4 072 255 people.
        Quote: rx.
        The certificate does not indicate who was shot for what. But the numbers are:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 89 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 745 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 54 people.
        Total 929 569 people
        http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312

        A number of numbers are incorrect (I didn’t look there). The correct numbers are:
        1. From 1928 to 1929 - 2 people.
        2. From 1930 to 1936 - 40 people.
        3. From 1937 to 1938 - 681 people.
        4. From 1939 to 1 plg. 1953 - 54 people.
        Total 779 042 people
        The source is here: http://www.alexanderyakovlev.org/fond/issues-doc/1009312
    2. Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 40 New
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      I heard a ring, but I don’t know where he is. Firstly, this is not for the entire period of Stalin's rule. Secondly, they dispossessed of us without any sentences. They simply drove a stage somewhere to northern Kazakhstan, threw them into the open field with the fact that they carried everything in their hands. Many did not survive. My great-grandfather was sent to me with his wife and elder sons. They have all gone.
      If anyone is interested, read Sholokhov's letter to Stalin about dispossession.
      http://vlastitel.com.ru/stalin/reform/perepisk.html
    3. Sanya Terek 26 December 2018 23: 15 New
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      Vladimir, the kontriki interlocked among themselves, which of them is the descendant of the most innocent.
  • avi1301 26 December 2018 17: 14 New
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    probably for what. Zinoviev was not shot in those same years for anti-Stalinism, although he said that it was easy and necessary. Understood in those days. Read all sorts of Solzhenitsyn.
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    You would do well with him.
  • tatra 26 December 2018 21: 35 New
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    One of the qualities of Stalinophobes is to never plead guilty neither for their own crimes, nor for the crimes of their relatives, nor for the crimes of those who benefit from them for their vile purposes.
  • Selin Andrey 26 December 2018 15: 28 New
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    What did i just read? Is the author already an adult? And then fabrications in the style of a pimpled teenager ... Bullshit ...
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      Quote: Selin Andrey
      What did i just read? Is the author already an adult? And then fabrications in the style of a pimpled teenager ... Bullshit ...

      This is not nonsense. These were the realities of that time. If Trotsky were to win in the party war of the early 20s, Russia in those years could really become a colony of the West. Only thanks to the Great Joseph Vissarionovich Russia was able to rise from the ruins and make a powerful economic and industrial breakthrough, becoming the most powerful state, economic, industrial, political power in the entire history of mankind.
      1. Warrior2015 26 December 2018 19: 26 New
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        Quote: solzh
        This is not nonsense. These were the realities of the time.

        For the rest of the world, except perhaps China and Mongolia, this has never been a reality. The scope of repression against its own people was monstrous, it is a fact.

        Quote: solzh
        Russia was able to rise from the ruins and make a powerful economic and industrial breakthrough, becoming the most powerful state, economic, industrial, political power, in the whole history of mankind.
        First, not Russia, but the USSR - in Soviet times, Russia just gave all the juice to raise unnecessary suburbs - from Tajikistan to the Baltic states (look at how many rubles were spent on them and how many on the main regions of Russia). Secondly, the USSR was once the most economically powerful state in history ?! Laugh, right, their dilettantism ....
        1. solzh 26 December 2018 20: 31 New
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          in Soviet times, Russia just gave all the juices to raise the unnecessary outskirts - from Tajikistan to the Baltic

          In Soviet times, the suburbs joined to Russia?
          Quote: Warrior2015

          The USSR was once the most economically powerful state in history ?!

          It has always been a powerful power in all areas.
          Quote: Warrior2015
          The scope of repression against their own people was monstrous, it is a fact.

          Strongly hooked you propaganda Goebbels and traitors from the NTS.
          Quote: Warrior2015
          They made laugh, right, with their amateurism ....

          Are you from the category of offended? Soviet power, of course. Apparently, during the Soviet era, jeans and a bubble of gum were not enough. I can only regret you ...
          1. Warrior2015 26 December 2018 21: 33 New
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            Quote: solzh
            In Soviet times, the suburbs joined to Russia?
            Yes, that's right, even more - from the metropolis (the indigenous regions of the USSR) there was financing of the suburbs, to the detriment of the Russian, and more broadly, the Russian people. And as a result of this, we got a hole from a donut. Excellent domestic policy of your idols, cho.

            Quote: solzh
            Strongly hooked you propaganda Goebbels and traitors from the NTS.
            No, I (more precisely, my ancestors) was severely "hooked" by the repressive machine itself, but for me personally, the usual Soviet statistics convinces me quite well (only not official, but internal, revealed by the former repressive bodies themselves).

            Quote: solzh
            It has always been a powerful power in all areas.
            What is powerful? He laughed for a long time - economically it was talking !!! flew into space - and what's the point? when there was not enough food for the absolute majority of ordinary people, not that decent clothes. And they forgot about the queues for toilet paper (oh, yes, in the USSR it appeared only in 70, the most powerful state, cho).


            Quote: solzh
            Are you offended?
            But you apparently very well fed in special distributors and were treated in the best departmental hospitals.
            1. solzh 26 December 2018 21: 58 New
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              Quote: Warrior2015
              He laughed for a long time - economically, the speech was on !!!

              I wrote to you: IN ALL SPHERES, this means in the economic too. Laugh further, I will laugh the same.
              Quote: Warrior2015
              But you apparently very well ate in the special rooms and were treated in the best departmental hospitals

              In the Soviet years, I didn’t have to lie in Soviet hospitals. Alas.
              And about nutrition, yes you are right to eat well, my father worked as a foreman of the zero cycle, and my mother worked in Soviet times as deputy chief accountant of a confectionery factory. Something like this wink
              1. RX.
                RX. 26 December 2018 23: 19 New
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                Quote: solzh
                And about nutrition, yes you are right, I ate well

                And what did you "eat well"?
                I personally don’t remember such products in the USSR so that I could "eat well."
                "Exploding" in a pan "amateur sausage."
                Potato (blow to the body) every day.
                Stew from veins and skins.
                Half-rotten vegetables in season.
                What foods did you “eat well”?
                1. flint 27 December 2018 08: 51 New
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                  Yes, you can’t remember anything, because you didn’t live in the USSR, but you’re carrying your stupid liberalistic nonsense after having read or heard all sorts.
                  1. RX.
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                    Quote: flint
                    Yes, you can’t remember anything

                    What, forgot the "Soviet service"? Ate on Russian grubs?
                    Remember.
                    1. flint 27 December 2018 09: 30 New
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                      I grew up on Soviet natural grubs. Unlike the current shit in a beautiful wrapper, which is littered with all our stores.
                      1. RX.
                        RX. 27 December 2018 09: 33 New
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                        Quote: flint
                        I grew up on Soviet natural grubs.

                        Did you eat from the special distributor? I can only envy you. Because the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of the USSR ate from stores. And there the products were noticeably different. They were made not according to GOSTs, but according to the Annexes to GOSTs. And these, as they said in Odessa, are two big differences.
                      2. flint 27 December 2018 11: 38 New
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                        What applications? This is now done by products neither by application nor by state standard specifications, but the devil knows from what. But then it was according to GOSTs, and whoever did not according to GOSTs, he very quickly had first an unpleasant conversation in the BHSS, and then confiscation and many days of rest and re-education in places not so remote. What about the special distributor? Yes, including from where the majority of urban residents received food. At that time, all large enterprises and mailboxes had a well-organized deficit distribution system. Not for a red word, but as a child I was turned away from red and black caviar, although our family was rather poor (there were no cars or summer cottages, and all the parents' total earnings were about 250 rubles). And in the shops there was a cheese of several varieties from MILK, several varieties of cooked sausage from MEAT, milk that soured very quickly, and therefore it was immediately boiled, and not that which can now stand for months, There were vegetables and fruits with rotten - because that natural, not current apples, lying on the shelves for months and not rotting. So the overwhelming majority of USSR citizens ate plenty of natural products, and not the crap that technology makes coming from your beloved and adored west.
                      3. RX.
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                        Quote: flint
                        What applications?

                        To state standard specifications. Learn the materiel.
                        Quote: flint
                        but as a child I was turned back by red and black caviar

                        And I look, you are not a spoiled and unpretentious person. If everything rests on caviar. Yes, I remember there was such a Soviet indicator of chic life. But since then so much water has already leaked ...
                        Quote: flint
                        and the total aggregate earnings of the parents was about 250 rubles.

                        Then you are obviously lying about caviar. I know perfectly well what 250 Soviet rubles are for three. This is poverty, even in Soviet beggarly times.
                        Quote: flint
                        And in the shops there were several varieties of milk cheese

                        Cheese in the USSR was not produced at all. Even for distributors. Cheese in the USSR called what is now called the cheese product.
                        Quote: flint
                        several varieties of cooked sausage from MEAT

                        Sausage, and even boiled, from meat was made only for special distributors. In shops, it was made from offal and all kinds of chemicals. There was a shortage of food in the USSR, if you forgot.
                        Quote: flint
                        Fruits and vegetables have been rotten

                        And only in the season. In the off-season they simply did not exist.
                        Today, most of the year you can just as well not buy them. And then you have no reason to complain about them.
                        Quote: flint
                        So the vast majority of citizens of the USSR ate plenty of natural products

                        Oh, these shoveling fantasies. Ate, memory swam with fat. You would be a week ago, "in a fair society" to return. At once the mouths were closed. In lines, after insisting on basic things.
                      4. flint 27 December 2018 12: 45 New
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                        And I look, you are not a spoiled and unpretentious person. If everything rests on caviar.
                        Well, I can still add on vskidkoy often was canned ham, Finnish salami and Hungarian cervelat - enough? Or something else to remember?
                        I know perfectly well what 250 Soviet rubles are for three. This is poverty, even in Soviet beggarly times.

                        You know nothing if you carry such nonsense. Yes, in the 70s it was not a lot of money, but for a normal meal and living with reasonable savings, there was enough of them for saving money on new TVs, refrigerators, washing machines and clothes. In addition, do not forget about some extra earnings, in addition to official salaries. For reasons of sausage and cheese, your nonsense will not even comment, it's just ridiculous! As for the lack of fresh vegetables and fruits in the off-season, it happened, but it was compensated by very good canned food (Bulgarproduct, for example, which your beloved "democratic and loving" west destroyed), then canning of fresh vegetables and fruits was very common citizens (I definitely had that) and it’s better to eat natural canned food than to eat the current fresh, rotting chemical stuff. So, in the words of the Bulgakov character: Congratulations to you comrade with another SOVRAMSHI! You can continue to spoil your nonsense, but people then remember how it really was.
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                        Quote: flint
                        canned ham, finnish salami and hungarian cervelat - enough?

                        And why did you decide that all this was a natural product? Especially canned ham.
                        Quote: flint
                        You know nothing if you carry such nonsense.

                        Unlike you and your fantasies about caviar and salami, you lived in that system. And I know perfectly well what 250 rubles are for three.
                        Quote: flint
                        In addition, do not forget about some extra earnings, in addition to official salaries.

                        Are you starting to take back?
                        Quote: flint
                        but it was compensated by very good canned food (Bulgarproduct

                        Quote: flint
                        but it was compensated by very good canned food (Bulgarproduct

                        Bulgarian canned foods were good?
                        Quote: flint
                        further at that time, it was very common for canning fresh vegetables and fruits by the citizens themselves (I definitely had that)

                        This is from a deficit of everything and everything and poverty.
                      6. flint 27 December 2018 13: 42 New
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                        And why did you decide that all this was a natural product? Especially canned ham.
                        And why did you decide that I decided that this is a natural product? When you lie, watch what others are saying and what you are. This is certainly not a completely natural product, but in those days there were certainly elements of a beautiful life that our poor but not impoverished family could afford. Further, I’m not going to donate anything, since an increase of fifty dollars per month is not very much and a big difference.
                        Bulgarian canned foods were good?
                        Why are they bad? "Or do you have other favorite authors?" C
                        This is from a deficit of everything and everything and poverty.
                        This is your conclusion from the deficit of the mind and the poverty of consciousness, when you cannot distinguish the wit and mind of the common people from poverty. But where are you, you despise the simple Russian people, well then do not be offended when the people spit in the face like you - servile lackeys of the West.
                      7. RX.
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                        Quote: flint
                        that our poor but not impoverished family could afford.

                        250 pe month for three, this is poverty. Even by the standards of the poor USSR
                        Quote: flint
                        since the increase of fifty dollars per month is not much, then there is a big difference.

                        Yeah. We decided 50 re a month for solidity to throw. Down and Out trouble started.
                        Quote: flint
                        when you cannot distinguish from the wit and wit of the common people.

                        In a normal country, people do not need to be smart and think like Spinoza in order to survive.
                        Quote: flint
                        about where to you, you despise the simple Russian people,

                        Do not confuse the "Soviet people" and the "Russian people". If only because the "Russian people" in wildlife does not exist. But there is a Russian nation.
                      8. flint 27 December 2018 14: 49 New
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                        Yeah. We decided 50 re a month for solidity to throw. Down and Out trouble started.

                        I don’t throw anything, but write the truth, unlike your lies and conjectures. I can also add that in childhood, during the summer holidays, he carried mail for 15 rubles. per month, earning on their hobbies, and where does solidity come in? This is real life, not your liberalistic ravings about poverty. By that standards, we had everything in the family except for the car, and in the early 80s, the state allocated us a piece of land for free and an interest-free loan for building a house for 20 years. Speaking of poverty, you forget about good free medicine, almost free trips to pioneer camps and rest homes, a good free secondary and higher education, for which you even paid a scholarship! if you studied without triples - as much as 45 rubles, increased 52 !, for which it’s bad, but you could live a month, and now you will live a lot on a scholarship of 1500-2500? You forget about the free issuance of housing and penny for utilities. You forget about huge pensions by those standards and in comparison with current pensions. Etc. etc. Well, of course, it’s not profitable to recall propagandizing Western values ​​and saying that the USSR was a Mordor where babies were eaten alive.
                        A nation is people united by their origin, language, common views, common place of residence.
                        The people are people united not only by one history, land and common language, but also by a single state system. The difference is very small for normal people, with the exception of some with an inflamed brain.
                      9. RX.
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                        I will not comment on your campaigns. I'm tired.
                        One thing surprises me, why do you, a person in general beggar even by the standards of the USSR, praise him like that? Do you have a bad life now?
                        Or does envy not sleep? Eats like a worm?
                        "So I have an eye out, if only the neighbor both?"
                      10. flint 27 December 2018 19: 51 New
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                        I have the truth of that life, you really have nonsense from the training manual, you yourself did not think you lived in the USSR. I live very well at the moment, because I see how badly the majority live and that much of what was then could well be now if the authorities thought about the people. But in the USSR, there was a lot of good things and this was done under the leadership of Stalin.
                      11. RX.
                        RX. 27 December 2018 21: 52 New
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                        Quote: flint
                        I’m living very well at the moment,

                        So live well. And there is nothing to urge to live poorly.
                        "Do not be dashing while it is quiet." Look, on the bunks in the Gulag it will be too late to back up.
                      12. flint 27 December 2018 22: 54 New
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                        Yes, I do not call for anything, I just consider your cheap campaigns about the USSR and Stalin delusional, that's all. And the Gulag is crying clearly not for me, when I read your nonsense, then the repressions of 37 years seem to me clearly justified. There were many such talkers even then, and there was a big war ahead, how many traitors in the rear. Judging by the war, he planted a little, he needed more.
                      13. RX.
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                        Quote: flint
                        And the Gulag is crying clearly not for me

                        You are mistaken. First of all, those who called for his return will be thrown there. It always happens.
                        Quote: flint
                        when I read your nonsense, then repressions of 37 years seem to me clearly justified

                        And when I read you, I begin to doubt that Russia has any future at all.
                        Quote: flint
                        and there’s a big war ahead, how many traitors are in the rear.

                        The Bolsheviks always had a great war ahead. And around the enemies. The system was like that. Militant and non-viable.
                        Quote: flint
                        Judging by the war, he planted a little, he needed more.

                        No, apparently there is no future. Out of date. With such a population, there can be only one result. Crash.
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                        The Bolsheviks always had a great war ahead. And around the enemies. The system was like that. Militant and non-viable.

                        You are clearly an unhealthy person, you see in your head a huge nail sticking out that says "Bolsheviks and Stalin", you suffer and blame the Bolsheviks and Stalin for everything laughing I dare to recall that both before the Bolsheviks and after them, Russia always had a war and there were always enemies. And they always will be. Not a system, but a country and our fate is such, always fighting with all scum. And at the expense of non-viability, you are lying, but with people like you would be non-viable, yes, and there would have been no country for a long time. And I always defended my country Russia when it was the USSR and when it became the Russian Federation. And if I need to continue to protect, and your empty talk is a cheap thing and nobody needs it.
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                      16. flint 28 December 2018 01: 13 New
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                        Still, do not get over your gall ravings?
                        If your mother, and my mother’s mother and my ancestors, was raped by some criminal elements (and the Ulyanovs, the Bolsheviks and especially Dzhugashvili were just criminal elements), then how do you command them to be treated?

                        And that only the Bolsheviks "raped" Mother Russia? Can you recall what Peter the first did with her? And indeed the whole history of Russia and its people is one continuous rape by and large, and the Bolsheviks and Stalin are not particularly distinguished here.
                        First, in October 1917 - January 1918 they carried out a creeping counterrevolutionary (reactionary) coup, returning society from the very first phase of bourgeois society back to feudalism.

                        When they started the “creeping” coup, the country as it was was already gone, began to spread like a patchwork, what the hell is the first phase of bourgeois society? This mess and chaos of anarchy you call so? This reminds me very much of our 90s, there was also the same first phase of bourgeois society, so much that they almost drained the country, although they all sold out to a different crook for a cheap price. This was a real rape, the Bolsheviks nervously smoke on the sidelines.
                        As a result, by the end of the 20th century Russia came in the same state as it was in the mid-19th century.
                        Not a dude, you are really sick, but in the 19th century Russia had space rockets, fired atomic bombs, atomic icebreakers, submarines and power plants, airplanes, etc. etc? Heal, otherwise you will bend ahead of time and you will not wait for a bright future laughing
                      17. Warrior2015 28 December 2018 02: 46 New
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                        Quote: rx.
                        I dare to remind that Russia under the autocracy is bad or good, but it was moving forward steadily in its development. Yes, slightly behind most of Europe. But not much.
                        The Bolsheviks, starting with 1918, turned back time twice.
                        First, in October 1917 - January 1918, they made a creeping counter-revolutionary (reactionary) coup, bringing society back from the very first phase of bourgeois society back to feudalism. In this case, the new nobles were just them, the Bolsheviks.
                        But that is not all. At the end of 1927, Dzhugashvili began his creeping counterrevolutionary (reactionary) coup. Gradually plunging the country into a state of slave-owning CEF. 20 in the courtyard, and in the east of Europe the slave-owning society of the early Middle Ages. Disgrace.
                        As a result, by the end of 20 in Russia came in the same condition in which it was in the middle of 19 in. A century and a half dog down the drain. But the neighbors competitors are not asleep, developed. Therefore, today the prospects for Russia due to the actions of the Bolshevik are very vague. And I would not be surprised if everything ends in failure. Lose in the intraspecific competition.
                        In short, what the Bolsheviks and socialism have become for Russia.

                        Very well described the spiral of time, yes. Perhaps, according to the statistical plan of those who financed the first Bolsheviks, that was exactly what was intended - to bring Russia out of the world from world leaders to lagging powers, unfortunately ...
  • Warrior2015 28 December 2018 02: 43 New
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    Quote: rx.
    Cheese in the USSR was not produced at all. Even for distributors. Cheese in the USSR called what is now called the cheese product.
    Apt remark, even nothing to add!

    Quote: rx.
    And only in the season. In the off-season they simply did not exist.

    Yeah, for fruits and vegetables, I just enjoy the modern stalls, and remember with horror the collapse in the vegetable stores of my Soviet childhood ...
  • Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 48 New
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    How old are you, nice people?
  • tatra 26 December 2018 21: 38 New
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    YOU, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people in your beloved 1937-1938, the communists repressed only 1,3 million people, this is 0,9% of the population of the USSR, and after just 4-5 years, you ran MILLIONS in the MILLIONS before the Nazis who attacked the Soviet people, together with them killed 26 million Soviet people.
    1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 23: 10 New
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      1937-1938 is only TWO years of Stalin-Bolshevik repressions out of 25
    2. Alexga 26 December 2018 23: 46 New
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      Irina, I welcome you. It is difficult to convince people here who studied history according to Solzhenitsyn.
      1. Vadim237 27 December 2018 01: 25 New
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        I haven’t read Solzhenitsyn’s story — I studied a lot of history, including from words, photographs, and my ancestors — they, unlike all your scribbles, are living representatives of those times.
        1. Alexga 27 December 2018 21: 46 New
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          My young friend, do not you think that you have problems with your upbringing?
  • Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 05 New
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    Delirium

    Well, you, this is an ordinary senile. . . .
  • xoma58 26 December 2018 15: 28 New
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    The first part of the article accurately describes the current state of Russia. Where to get STALIN?
    1. Vadim237 26 December 2018 17: 08 New
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      You are probably starving - the last time you went around the country?
    2. Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 09 New
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      Where to get STALIN?

      You see, maybe there would be those who wanted to shoot people like you, but this is criminally punishable here. Therefore, I propose to all those who want a new Stalin to organize themselves: to receive a free Far Eastern hectare from the state somewhere in the taiga, enclose it with barbed wire, cast lots to whom to be imprisoned, and to whom guards and live there for pleasure in anticipation of a new arrival.
      1. Vadim237 26 December 2018 17: 22 New
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        And call this territory "Point"
      2. flint 27 December 2018 08: 56 New
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        Given that you could not live under Stalin, then probably all your relatives were born and raised in the Gulag, since you are so enthusiastically talking about life behind bars laughing
        1. xoma58 27 December 2018 10: 18 New
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          Do not get involved in polemics with brainless trolls and simply wretched little people.
          1. flint 27 December 2018 11: 15 New
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            Well, if you do not comment on this nonsense, they may create the illusion of tacit agreement, which is not worth the hassle, otherwise they will be proud of their stupid inventions laughing
  • Altona 26 December 2018 15: 38 New
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    By the way, who read the old children's books of the 50s, published by the Detgiz publishing house (children's state publishing house)? Such wonderful books I will report to you. On excellent coated paper, in cloth binders with gold stamping, the truth is that from rereading, they are very dilapidated. It was so interesting to read them, everything was stated in a beautiful accessible language. Subsequent editions were already not so interesting and sometimes with large notes in the text.
    1. Phil77 26 December 2018 19: 10 New
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      I read, I especially liked the Adventure and Science Fiction Library *! Great books! My classmates and I constantly exchanged them, read them, gave them to a friend, and he told you the other one. That's right. Well, they were written to them in libraries. It happened!
  • Alexga 26 December 2018 15: 44 New
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    Yes, you will not be bored here. Stalin and Russia exist, but where is the USSR? Damn, the fruits of modern initiation.
  • wooja 26 December 2018 15: 54 New
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    Yes, the author is in many ways right ... but politically correct - everything was much worse. Although the country received an atomic bomb, the plow also remained, as well as the vast space between them ... filled with immigrants from the plow in the worst sense, the last of them is the Stavropol combine, but there were no others ..., Stalin deserves sincere admiration for the fact that he was able to get these “shots” to work at least somehow, and they worked ..., the remarks about the “negative” selection are valid, because there was no one to choose from ..., the intelligentsia pulled away ..., I had to do without her, the guard, instead of psychologists, is the fault of the intelligentsia ..., x Otya Vertuhai proved their effectiveness ...
  • Selin Andrey 26 December 2018 15: 57 New
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    Quote: Fitter65
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    My great-grandfather, shot in 37, probably seeing me reading this in a coffin, turned over ...

    And for what was he shot? Let's plaint the tale of the evil GPUshniki -NKVDshnikami here slap us. And judging by the amount of scum that the Nazis ran to help, it turns out that the NKVD worked poorly, how many were not shot. And then somehow they showed on TV, on the memory day of the victims of repressions, two unfortunate daughters of innocent shot, though according to these “daughters” it turned out that they were born a little later than the mothers were shot, but these are trifles ... Yes, and how do you know what your Great-grandfather shot? After all, the whole family of the repressed, according to the liberals, was also repressed, and they all necessarily starved to death in the camps, so you shouldn’t be there, according to what our liberals are carrying, spoiling our past. You are also from that the past of our (not your) country?

    There is an interesting study. A survey was conducted among prisoners about the degree of guilt. For which a man was imprisoned. The survey involved several thousand prisoners. 97% of convicts declared their complete innocence. So with the repressions during the years of Stalin - everyone there was innocent. Yeah ... If you dig, many were not so innocent.
    1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 17: 13 New
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      Solzhenitsyn has a short story of how the guards asked the newcomer for what they had put him in. He says "no way." Guards: "uh, you're lying, for" no way "give a ten, and you have 25"
    2. freddyk 26 December 2018 21: 29 New
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      Quote: Selin Andrey
      There is an interesting study. A survey was conducted among prisoners about the degree of guilt. For which a man was imprisoned. The survey involved several thousand prisoners. 97% of convicts declared their complete innocence. So with the repressions during the years of Stalin - everyone there was innocent. Yeah ... If you dig, many were not so innocent.


      My cousin is one of the few, probably who considered himself guilty, although modern people would not consider themselves as such for sure. The infamous 2nd Shock, environment, captivity. The camp is liberated by ours, a special department, 10 years of camps. Like this. But he considered himself guilty, not Stalin. So who is brought up.
  • Hypatius 26 December 2018 16: 05 New
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    Start article good at least in history books. But, in continuation, I would like more specifics (especially monetary and financial policies) and less pathos. yes
  • Conductor 26 December 2018 16: 15 New
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    We remember the contest the name of Russia, and that, the authorities saw with horror that Stalin was in 1st place and chose the semi-mythical Nevsky
  • NordUral 26 December 2018 16: 21 New
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    Russia's economic mechanism 1920-s - a mixture of weak administrative planning and a speculative market, could not provide not only a breakthrough, but also normal development. There was a merging of the rapidly growing Soviet bureaucracy and speculators, the criminal world, which was flourishing on the ruins of the empire. There was no hope for foreign investment. Soviet Russia was in international isolation. At the same time, foreigners were happy to create a semi-colonial economic model in Russia, to gain control over existing enterprises, mines, and mineral deposits.
    That's where we fell during the years of the reign of the libertic thief.
  • Ross xnumx 26 December 2018 16: 36 New
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    Under Stalin, some designer was called and he was invited to create a production and lead it. All the required was given and ... God forbid not to meet the deadline or exceed the budget ... Half of today's effective managers would be shot, and the second half would build a bridge to Sakhalin, led by ... stop in general with those who were entrusted with, who stood at the head. And Stalin himself, as a child, was happy with everything new that appeared in the USSR and was advanced at that time. He would not give Heroes of the Soviet Union for not introducing 37 nuclear power units. And already for participating in ... I will not continue further - who the smart will understand.
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      RX. 26 December 2018 17: 14 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      Under Stalin, some designer was called and he was invited to create a production and lead it. All the required was given and ... God forbid not to meet the deadline or exceed the estimated costs ...

      Yeah. All artillery designers were shot. Makhanova, Tagunova, Syachentova. It is only those who first surfaced.
      As a result, Grabin remained, who was far from the best of them. Very far away. And Petrov, who did things so-so.
      As a result, they fought with artillery in fact 1MV. But not at all at the 2MB level.
      By the way, for the 85 mm tank and anti-aircraft guns (and in general for the 85 mm caliber), Tagunov should be thanked. And they shot him for him. There is nothing to be done, socialism.
    2. Vadim237 26 December 2018 17: 24 New
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      Who and according to which approved program did not introduce 37 nuclear power units?
  • avi1301 26 December 2018 17: 01 New
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    Well, you have to be such a HUMAN person to dare and take the country, broken into dust, onto your shoulders! And he, as can be seen from his life, did not dream of wealth.
    1. RX.
      RX. 26 December 2018 17: 09 New
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      Quote: avi1301
      Well, you have to be such a HUMAN person to dare and take the country, broken into dust, onto your shoulders!

      What country was "broken into dust"? USSR arr. 1927 g?
      You would like to learn a little.
      Quote: avi1301
      And he, as can be seen from his life, did not dream of wealth.

      He had enough. The USSR, with all its factories, bowels, collective farms, people, sheep and cockroaches, was worth a lot.
      1. Tashkent citizen 27 December 2018 13: 29 New
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        He had enough. The USSR, with all its factories, bowels, collective farms, people, sheep and cockroaches, was worth a lot.

        Offended by life and on all RX. Stop writing nonsense. Only the people laugh.
        Especially for you.

        5 March 1953 years at 22 hours 30 minutes, I, the commandant of the Near summer cottage Orlov, senior attached Starostin, assistant Tukov, employee Butusova made an inventory of the property of Comrade Stalin I.V. as directed by Comrade Beria.

        1. Notebook for notes, in a cover from a skin of gray color;

        2. Notebook, leather, red;

        3. Personal notes, notes drawn up on separate sheets and tear-off sheets. Numbered a total of 67 sheets (sixty-seven);

        4. General notebook with notes, red cover;

        5. Smoking pipes - 5 pcs. To them: 4 boxes and specials. devices, tobacco. In Comrade Stalin’s office: books, desk accessories, souvenirs are not included in the list.

        Bedroom and wardrobe:

        6. White tunic - 2 pcs. (The star of the Hero of Socialist Labor is attached to both).

        7. The tunic is gray, semi-daily - 2 pcs .;

        8. The tunic is dark green - 2 pcs .;

        9. Pants - 10;

        10. The underwear is folded into a box under No. 2.

        Boxed under number 3: 6 tunic jackets, 10 trousers, 4 greatcoats, 4 caps. Notebooks, notebooks, and personal notes are packed in a box under No. 1. Bath and shower accessories were packed in box No. 4. Other property belonging to Comrade Stalin was not included in the inventory. A savings book was discovered in the bedroom, 900 rubles were recorded in it. The time for completing the inventory and document is 0 hours 45 minutes on March 6, 1953.

        Present: (signature) ORLOV (signature) STAROSTIN (signature) TUKOV (signature) BUTUSOV.

        Other property meant a desktop alarm clock in the form of a fox (with a broken ear). Stalin also had a desktop figurine donated by Roosevelt.

        And the most important thing. After himself, Joseph Vissarionovich left the Superpower at the peak of his power.
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          Quote: Tashkent
          Stalin also had a desktop figurine donated by Roosevelt.

          And also the USSR (with all its giblets, including the commandant and Comrade Beria), conquered from the "old Bolsheviks" in its favor. But the USSR for some reason did not make it into the inventory.
          Quote: Tashkent
          And the most important thing. After himself, Joseph Vissarionovich left the Superpower at the peak of his power.

          After himself, Dzhugashvili left a country dilapidated by war with a very thinly populated population.
          And most importantly, he left behind a cancerous tumor of "socialism." Which strangled people as much as 38 years after the death of the main ghoul.
  • pepel 26 December 2018 17: 12 New
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    “Everything returns to normal” - a person will come who will continue Stalin’s work and bring it to the end (most likely it will be several politicians of the new formation in series). Putin’s words that society will not accept socialism from the evil one. Under real socialism, as theoreticians understood, no one lived, they ruined the country earlier (an attempt to close the project). All the same, they will return to the implementation of the socialist project. The logic of state development. hi
    1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 18: 29 New
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      All the same, they will return to the implementation of the socialist project.

      There is no socialist project: everything has decayed and collapsed. But there were people with a short memory who are ready to step on the same rake again and again.
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        Quote: Nick_R
        There is no socialist project: everything has decayed and collapsed. But there were people with a short memory who are ready to step on the same rake again and again.

        Briefly and to the point.
    2. Nick_R 26 December 2018 23: 17 New
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      Under real socialism, as theoreticians understood, no one lived,

      And you did not try to think about why? Maybe the answer to the surface: because theorists were mistaken in their fantasies, but were banal utopians.
    3. Vladimirsky 27 December 2018 15: 00 New
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      Is there at least one society on planet Earth that has adopted socialism? Name at least one ..... North Korea? But there is no verbal exploitation of man by man, but we have the exploitation of an absolutely powerless man by the state.
      It’s ridiculous to say about society and public institutions in S. Korea - it’s full of Juche. So bring the fire of the world revolution to hell — beyond the borders of Russia, experiment there.
      1. Warrior2015 28 December 2018 02: 48 New
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        Is there at least one society on the planet Earth that has adopted socialism? Name at least one ..... Sev.Koreya?

        Well, for now Cuba with Venezuela. I do not know how long to hold on. China is long gone, although legally it is still communist.
        And in North Korea, there is not communism, and not socialism, there is the rule of the totalitarian artificially made-up sect - Juche, which provides the power of the Kimov clan over one single state.
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          Well, still Cuba with Venezuela.

          You are mistaken, at the end of May 2016, the Cuban authorities announced the legalization of private enterprises of small and medium-sized businesses, so we can say that socialism in Cuba is declarative.
          As for Venezuela - by, she was never socialist. Hugo Chavez tried to "push" the social. the development of the state - but in a referendum held on December 2, 2007, citizens voted AGAINST.
    4. Vladimirsky 27 December 2018 15: 01 New
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      Quote: pepel
      Putin’s catch that society will not accept socialism from the evil one. Under real socialism, as theoreticians understood, no one lived, they ruined the country earlier (an attempt to close the project).

      Is there at least one society on planet Earth that has adopted socialism? Name at least one ..... North Korea? But there is no verbal exploitation of man by man, but we have the exploitation of an absolutely powerless man by the state.
      It’s ridiculous to say about society and public institutions in S. Korea - it’s full of Juche. So bring the fire of the world revolution to hell — beyond the borders of Russia, experiment there.
  • Vlad5307 26 December 2018 17: 50 New
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    Quote: Bull Terrier
    My great-grandfather, shot in 37, probably seeing me reading this in a coffin, turned over ...

    Life is multifaceted and at the time of our grandfathers and fathers, local authorities were not only smart and disinterested people who believed in this dream, but also a lot of adherents and arranged a beautiful life amid difficulties. Are there really no such people today? And the neighbors who wanted to seize square meters or avenge any offense were transferred. And in the internal organs, there were such, too, and not very literate. Hence these costs, but many fell under the rink. There are many reasons for this, but there is also a lot to forget about the titanic efforts of I.V. Stalin in the revival of the country and the fact that Russia is his merit today.
    It is the victims of the people that the existence of an independent people is justified. It has always been so and always will be. And what was different in other countries? Even when there were no revolutions, but there was a crisis of the economy, at least the same in the USA in the 30s. Those to whom bread was more dear than will and independence simply turned into colonies, ensuring the prosperity of the colonialists. If there had not been a victory in the Second World War, Russia would have ceased to exist, and in the West even the current pseudo-democracy would not exist either, but there would be planetary fascism. hi
  • samarin1969 26 December 2018 18: 01 New
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    Stalin and Holy Russia?! ,, wassat ...This is too much!
    The prolific author should refrain from mixing the incompatible. What does Stalin have to do with Russia? With the exception of the years of the war, this politician corroded everything Russian. The cruel cosmopolitan-Russophobe always solved the problems of other nations at the expense of the Russian people and the culture of Russia.
    1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 18: 36 New
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      Yes, for the sake of general development, the author should read how Stalin shot and planted clergy and believers, plundered the temples at first under the pretext of helping the starving Volga region (while exporting bread to Germany), and then just like that. And only during the war years, fearing that after a series of miscalculations and defeats, the people would throw him away, Stalin began to flirt with the church. After the war, they continued to actively plant for faith, though now it is now mainly Catholics from newly acquired territories and various sectarians
      1. Tashkent citizen 27 December 2018 13: 34 New
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        Yes, for the sake of general development, the author should read how Stalin shot and planted clergy and believers, plundered the temples at first under the pretext of helping the starving Volga region (while exporting bread to Germany), and then just like that.

        My question is: Personally shot and robbed? From a service mortar point blank? And it is not clear that "then just like that"?
        Please clarify.
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          No, he had enough artists like you for that.
    2. Ross xnumx 26 December 2018 18: 56 New
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      Quote: samarin1969
      With the exception of the years of the war, this politician corroded everything Russian. The cruel cosmopolitan-Russophobe always solved the problems of other nations at the expense of the Russian people and the culture of Russia.

      When Stalin came to power, the population of the RSFSR was - about 103 million, in 500 the population of the RSFR was - 000 million. Despite the losses in the WWII, which according to various sources amounted to 1953 million, the population increased by more than 106 million people. And with "favorable" development in 715, the population of the Russian Federation amounted to 000 26 600, and today - 000 3 1993 ... belay If we subtract the population of Crimea, which joined in 2014, then the oil painting ... So who and how solved the problems of the peoples? We have an interesting national composition of the city of Moscow, one of several constituent entities of the Russian Federation, where the population has increased. Just do not have to rejoice:
      Russians - 31%
      Azerbaijanis - 14%
      Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs - 10%
      Ukrainians - 8%
      Armenians - 5%
      Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%
      Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 5%
      Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingushs - 4%
      Belarusians - 3%
      Georgians - 3%
      Moldavians - 3%
      gypsies - 3%
      Jews - 2%
      other peoples - 4%

      Less than a third of the Russian population remains. Sorry, but only numbers and facts.
      1. Nick_R 26 December 2018 20: 32 New
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        Despite the losses in the WWII, which according to various sources amounted to 26 million people, the population increased by more than 600 million people

        Who taught you to think so? You take the population of the RSFSR, and subtract the losses in the war of the entire USSR. Then it’s clear where you got 14% of Azerbaijanis in Moscow.
      2. Sergej1972 26 December 2018 22: 17 New
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        You give falsified data on the national composition of the population of Moscow.
      3. Vadim237 27 December 2018 01: 31 New
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        Judging by the last “calculation” of Putin, we have a population of 160 million, taking into account visitors coming and going for the year. And yes it is necessary to consider the population of the RSFSR in the period from 17 to 53 years.
    3. RX.
      RX. 26 December 2018 19: 11 New
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      Quote: samarin1969
      Stalin and Holy Russia?! ,, wassat ... This is too much!
      The prolific author should refrain from mixing the incompatible.

      And the headline "How Stalin Saved Russia" is not from this series? From this one.
      Insolence is immense and unparalleled.
      Quote: samarin1969
      The cruel cosmopolitan-Russophobe always solved the problems of other nations at the expense of the Russian people and the culture of Russia.

      So the site is frankly pro-Soviet, and therefore Russophobic. What else to expect?
      1. flint 27 December 2018 09: 57 New
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        So the site is frankly pro-Soviet, and therefore Russophobic. What else to expect?

        Well, what are you rubbing around here then? You are banned every day, and you again pop up like feces in the hole and let us defecate again with your nonsense. Or do you need to work out your salary, otherwise you swell from hunger? Admit we will sympathize laughing
    4. flint 27 December 2018 09: 50 New
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      Yes you? And so in the 45th, this "cruel cosmopolitan Russophobe" said the following:
      As a representative of our Soviet Government, I would like to raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people and, above all, the Russian people.
      I drink, above all, for the health of the Russian people because it is the most prominent nation of all the nations that make up the Soviet Union.
      I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people because they have earned in this war and earlier earned the title, if you like, of the leading force of our Soviet Union among all the peoples of our country.

      Well, the fact that many republics lived normally, thanks to the help from the Russian people, is this normal, or is helping the poor bad? Russia never oppressed its colonies as the West has always done. Russia carried civilization and help to those in need before Stalin.
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        RX. 27 December 2018 10: 03 New
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        Quote: flint
        And so in the 45th, this "cruel cosmopolitan Russophobe" said the following:

        Who cares what he said? It is important what he did.
        Quote: flint
        Russia has never oppressed its colonies, as the West has always done. Russia brought civilization and help to those in need even before Stalin.

        And what did the USSR have to do with Russia?
        1. flint 27 December 2018 11: 58 New
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          That's really the difference what he said there, he did not engage in chatter, he did and did so much that neither before him nor after him no one did more for Russia than he did. And there is no need to bring nonsense about the billions and trillions of victims of which he is allegedly guilty and the like nonsense - you leave those people who have no reason for the sick people.
          And what did the USSR have to do with Russia?

          Direct. From the change of name the essence does not change.
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            RX. 27 December 2018 12: 06 New
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            Quote: flint
            what difference does he say there, he did not engage in chatter, he did

            It would be better not to do anything. It would be better a little dead. Still in the sperm phase.
            Quote: flint
            that neither before him nor after him no one has done more for Russia than he.

            The Bolsheviks (first the old Bolsheviks, and then the Bolshevik-Stalinists) destroyed Russia. Remember this well. Since 1918, Russia did not exist. But the RSFSR is not Russia.
            Quote: flint
            From the change of name the essence does not change.

            It was not a name change. It was a change of substance.
            There has never been a more Russophobic regime in Russia.
            1. flint 27 December 2018 13: 20 New
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              It would be better not to do anything. It would be better a little dead. Still in the sperm phase.
              It would be better if this happened to those who were really involved in the collapse of the Russian Empire, namely, all liberal trash in the then Duma, which, on the instructions of some large industrialists, organized this whole "Sabbath on Democracies and Freedoms" and eventually drained and plunged the country into a wild abyss - that’s this is you and remember. And the Bolsheviks had to restore order in the vast territories plunged into civil war, intervention, etc. etc.
              Since 1918, Russia did not exist. But the RSFSR is not Russia.

              For me, Russia is starting from Ladoga Russia, Novgorod, Kiev, Vladimir, Moscow, and to date it is one state.
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                RX. 27 December 2018 13: 24 New
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                Quote: flint
                It would be better if this happened to those who are really involved in the collapse of the Russian Empire

                Hinting at Ulyanov, Bronstein and other Sverdlov?
                Quote: flint
                And the Bolsheviks had to restore order in the vast territories plunged into civil war, intervention, etc. etc.

                We know their "order". It was cleaner than the Nazi.
                Quote: flint
                For me, Russia is starting from Ladoga Russia, Novgorod, Kiev, Vladimir, Moscow, and to date it is one state.

                And in the middle of a hole. In the form of the RSFSR, and then the USSR. There was no Russia then. It didn’t exist. Died in the Civil War.
                1. flint 27 December 2018 14: 18 New
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                  Hinting at Ulyanov, Bronstein and other Sverdlov?
                  I am not hinting, but talking about the tsar and his entourage, who plunged the country into absolutely stupid for the country two wars - one lost, and the second murder, then about the liberally hollow-headed and democratically hollow bourgeoisie, whose politics the country was plunged into chaos and self-destruction. The Bolsheviks only took advantage of the labors of the aforementioned "patriots."
                  We know their "order". It was cleaner than the Nazi.
                  The usual order of those times is no worse and no better than others.
                  And in the middle of a hole. In the form of the RSFSR, and then the USSR. There was no Russia then. It didn’t exist. Died in the Civil War.

                  A hole in your head, and in it the wind blows ....
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                    RX. 27 December 2018 14: 25 New
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                    Quote: flint
                    I'm not hinting, but talking about the king and his entourage

                    The king ruined Russia?
                    Have you had a drink today?
                    Quote: flint
                    The Bolsheviks only took advantage of the labors of the aforementioned "patriots."

                    In fact, the Bolsheviks took advantage of the work (I think it was premature) of the Russian revolutionaries. Google the surnames themselves, many of them were members of the Provisional Government.
                    Taking advantage of the war and their weakness in connection with this, they carried out a counter-revolutionary armed coup (coup). Therefore, the Bolsheviks were (optional) reactionaries, conriks, or coupists. But they were not revolutionaries.
                    Quote: flint
                    The usual order of those times is no worse and no better than others.

                    Who told you that?
                    1. flint 27 December 2018 15: 05 New
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                      The king ruined Russia?
                      Have you had a drink today?

                      I don’t drink it once, but two, and who bears the main responsibility for the collapse of the state, if not the main official with all the mental and non-mental powers? I want to remind you that in Russia we had an absolute monarchy - autocracy. I won’t even discuss everything else - as always absolute nonsense.
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                        RX. 27 December 2018 17: 14 New
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                        Quote: flint
                        I don’t drink it at all

                        But this is by Russian standards very suspicious.
                        Quote: flint
                        and who bears the main responsibility for the collapse of the state, if not the main official with all the mental and non-mental powers?

                        Former Chief Executive Officer.
                        Nicholas II was replaced by Michael I. Let for a while, but replaced.
                        Michael I transferred the full power to the Provisional Government. On this autocracy in Russia ended, and the bourgeois revolution (by peaceful means) happened.
                        The interim government was overthrown by the Bolsheviks (the initial phase of the Bolshevik counter-revolutionary putsch).
                        The constituent assembly was dispersed by the Bolsheviks (the final phase of the Bolshevik counter-revolutionary putsch).
                        After the Bolsheviks seized power in 1918, the collapse of Russia began, as national suburbs did not recognize the authority of these impostors.
                        But is Nicholas II to blame for everything?
                      2. flint 27 December 2018 18: 49 New
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                        But this is by Russian standards very suspicious.

                        I don’t drink by Russian standards.
                        And who and what forced Nicholas 2 to give power to his brother? “Around betrayal, cowardice and deceit” - this is how it was necessary to try to bring the country to such an edge that everyone around you longed for your resignation? It is Nicholas 2 Spineless who is guilty of the collapse of the Russian Empire. Everything else is immaterial.
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                        RX. 27 December 2018 21: 55 New
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                        Quote: flint
                        And who and what forced Nicholas 2 to give power to his brother? “Around betrayal, cowardice and deceit” - this is how it was necessary to try to bring the country to such an edge that everyone around you longed for your resignation?

                        Dear, do you generally know what the evolution of human society is and, as a result, the change in the OEF?
                        Do you even know that this is an inevitable process? Like a sunrise Otherwise, humanity would still live in caves.
                        Do you know anything other than nagging about the “good times that are gone” in this life?
                        Do not know.
                        So keep quiet.
                        Excuse me, but you got me. In general, it’s not in my head how it is possible to resist progress and development. And call for a return back to degradation.
                      4. flint 27 December 2018 23: 14 New
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                        Judging by your rating, you have already got everyone on this portal with your bullshit, and more than once. You get banned, you get out, but I wonder for what purpose? You would send yourself echoes of matzo here, there you would be glad. I even feel sorry for you, they kick you, and you climb again.
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                        RX. 27 December 2018 23: 22 New
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                        Quote: flint
                        Judging by your rating,

                        You need to say such funny things from the stage. For money.
                        Quote: flint
                        I even feel sorry for you, they kick you, and you climb again.

                        Kicking? Who is kicking me?
                        No, no one has ever kicked me and will not kick me. Do not wait.
                        But the overseer may be putting you on a ridge more than once with a rubber stick. If you still achieve the arrival of your "bright future in the Soviet way."
                        You’ll plow like dad Carlo. For soldering balandy with rotten cabbage and a place on the bunks. That's when you, and people like you, will start tearing your hair out of your ass. But it will be too late.
                      6. flint 27 December 2018 23: 59 New
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                        But the overseer may be putting you on a ridge more than once with a rubber stick. If you still achieve the arrival of your "bright future in the Soviet way."
                        You’ll plow like dad Carlo. For soldering balandy with rotten cabbage and a place on the bunks. That's when you, and people like you, will start tearing your hair out of your ass. But it will be too late.
                        laughing
                        What a passion! You have already experienced all this, if you tell me so picturesquely - poor fellow laughing
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                Quote: rx.
                Nicholas II was replaced by Michael I. Let for a while, but replaced.
                Michael I transferred the full power to the Provisional Government. On this autocracy in Russia ended, and the bourgeois revolution (by peaceful means) happened.

                Only Mikhail II (as was written on one of the banners dedicated to him), the first was Mikhail Romanov, the founder of the dynasty.
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      At the expense of Russia, other b-republics were subsidized.

      At the expense of Russia, nothing like this happened. This was due to the RSFSR.
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      Read something, wise guy.

      Did you tell yourself looking in the mirror?
  • Warrior2015 28 December 2018 02: 51 New
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    Well, the fact that many republics lived normally, thanks to the help from the Russian people, is this normal, or is helping the poor bad? Russia never oppressed its colonies as the West has always done. Russia carried civilization and help to those in need before Stalin.

    The problem is that, under the USSR, all attention was paid to national suburbs, and they lived much better than the indigenous, central regions of historical Russia. I, as a representative of the Russian people, and living in its central part, consider such a national policy to be flawed and leading to degradation (and we see its sad results after the 1991 year).
  • rayruav 26 December 2018 18: 14 New
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    as always, the truth is somewhere in the middle, but still let the anti-Soviet explain who and how, in their opinion, could defeat Hitler Germany in those conditions and confront the West with the atomic bomb
    1. Ross xnumx 26 December 2018 19: 06 New
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      but nevertheless let the anti-advisers explain who and how

      Why explain? A historical example is evident. Hitler saddled Europe for a year and a half. If it weren’t for the USSR, everyone would speak German ... there would be those who would stay. It was the socialist path of development that helped our country overcome the Wehrmacht’s most powerful military machine. I said in previous posts that war veterans said that they went on the attack with shouts: "For the Motherland! For Stalin!" These are not some stories about watches and daggers. Everything is true here. You can ask veterans on May 9th. I don’t know for today whether they will go screaming: “For ...!”? Or, dying will be asked to consider himself a United Russia? I doubt it. I really do not believe ... no
    2. tatra 26 December 2018 21: 09 New
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      The enemies of the Communists in the USSR are people stupidly, irrationally AGAINST. It is useless to expect from them not only truth, but also elementary logic and common sense. None of them are capable of discussion.
      Well, they are furious against what the Soviet communists and their supporters did for the country and the people, while perfectly understanding that they are NOT able to prove that the Romanovs and the bourgeois, and they themselves, after seizing the republics of the USSR, did at least something better for the country and the people.
  • Evil echo 26 December 2018 18: 36 New
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    I.V. Stalin:
    “I know that after death a lot of garbage will be put on my grave. But the wind of History will mercilessly dispel it. ”
    The breeze is slowly rising ...
    1. Ross xnumx 26 December 2018 19: 10 New
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      The breeze is slowly rising ...

      So far - the calm before the storm (New Year). If the people see that the government is pretending to listen to the opinion of citizens that it works for the good of the Fatherland, then the wind can still rise.
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      The breeze is slowly rising ...

      And do not hope. After the trial of "socialism," even the grave is likely to be razed to the ground. Such people were generally buried outside the cemetery fence.
      1. flint 26 December 2018 20: 54 New
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        And who is interested in this "court" will organize? laughing
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          Quote: flint
          And who is interested in this "court" will organize?

          I don’t know, I’m not Grandma Wang.
          The trial of Nazism was. And over socialism should also be. Wait.
          1. flint 27 December 2018 16: 58 New
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            In order for such a trial to take place, it is necessary that, firstly, Russia does not become, and secondly, that the majority were not people who sensibly and adequately perceive the history of their country, but would be the majority of stupid Russophobes and anti-Stalinists, who usually do not think sensibly, and stupidly repeat manuals of liberalists and Western villains. So wait, you can dress the drum in advance and pick up the flag in your hands!
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              In order for such a trial to take place, first of all, Russia should not become

              It is in Russia that they will conduct it. Do not doubt.
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              and there would be most stupid Russophobia

              Scoops mean?
              In general, devastation, it’s in the head. In particular, it looks like in yours.
              1. flint 27 December 2018 19: 37 New
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                Scoops mean?

                You are so short-sighted that you do not understand not just hints, but specific words. Severe case - does not seem to be treated laughing
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          PIG you are uneducated !!

          Come on, goodbye.
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  • free 26 December 2018 18: 42 New
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    Well, what else is the red emperor? And why is it interesting that Marxism has become pseudo-communism?
    1. TAMBU 26 December 2018 18: 46 New
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      it’s good that inquiring minds of contemporaries dig in this direction. over time, their knowledge will be enough to get answers to most questions of the past, and even after a while they will be able to develop a modern language of the left movement. I believe in it more and more. just many need a little help.
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    I don’t see the answer to the question “How?”. The article begins with this. The question is still open.
  • Severski 26 December 2018 19: 25 New
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    As soon as GDP said in 2009 that Stalin was not so bad, such articles about a good father of nations began to multiply. Do people really think this is so backward?
    How can you even write this about the executioner?
    1. Conductor 26 December 2018 19: 40 New
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      In the film "Tsar" as a person, I’m wrong, but as Sovereign, I’m right. AND?
    2. tatra 26 December 2018 21: 01 New
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      Just the benefactor of the anti-Soviet clique that inflicted enormous material, human / demographic, historical, territorial, moral, and reputational damage on Russia and the Russian people - Putin first decided to rule on the principle of both ours and yours, and red and white, and began to "whiten and whiten."
  • tatra 26 December 2018 21: 04 New
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    The enemies of the Communists on the territory of the USSR are ALL an anomaly of humanity, including the fact that they, unlike all the peoples in the world, including the Soviet Communists and their supporters, DO NOT have a positive history of their country, only vicious, aggressive, delusional, slanderous ANTI-Soviet / Russophobia.
  • Cottager452 26 December 2018 21: 07 New
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    Stalinism and alcoholism are many things in common.
    1. efimich41 28 December 2018 10: 11 New
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      During the life of Stalin, I did not see alcoholics, despite the fact that at almost every street intersection there was a stall with alcoholic drinks (cognac, vodka, wine, liquor, etc.) and a snack (sandwiches with black and red caviar, with sausage, with bacon or ham, etc.). Alcohol could be ordered in any quantity - from 25 grams to full. People rushed to work in the morning, those who wanted to overturned 50-100 gr. and moved on. But there were no alcoholics. This was observed from the time of the monetary reform of 1947 until the beginning of the reign of Khrushchev.
  • efimich41 26 December 2018 21: 18 New
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    If I.V. STALIN had not created the great country of the USSR, then most of us simply would not have been in this world. Perhaps the traitors-liberals would be preserved in the service of the capitalists. I believe that anyone who opposes Stalin is an enemy of humanity. Only Stalin could create a powerful state from the wreckage of the Russian Empire, which defended and strengthened peace on Earth.
    1. Warrior2015 26 December 2018 21: 39 New
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      If I.V. Stalin had not created the great country of the USSR, then most of us simply would not be in this world.

      I will answer simply and briefly - the USSR, which many of us remember, and according to which some of us have nostalgia, was not created by STALIN, on the contrary, the late USSR was created by Stalin's enemies - Khrushchev and his followers who were not officially Stalinists and who did not continue his course, and only because of this, the people have been able to live at least somehow!
      1. flint 27 December 2018 10: 13 New
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        Khrushchev and his followers decomposed the entire ruling elite of the USSR, gave the Nazis the opportunity to feel themselves as beats and dukes, made it possible to appear and grow stronger in the shadow business, with them corruption began to blossom and smell, and much did Stalin's enemies do to ensure that a powerful state created under Stalin's leadership collapsed at one point.
    2. tatra 26 December 2018 21: 44 New
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      And all Stalinophobes are the same. Just as some of them fled to play slander in the face of the Nazis in millions, so others after 40 years having captured the republics of the USSR, they immediately fled to put them and their peoples under the enemy of their country, the anti-Soviet-Russophobic West.
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    STALIN !!!!!!!!!
  • Thompson 26 December 2018 21: 26 New
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    something so many "new" ran! fas command given?
  • swyatoslav 26 December 2018 21: 29 New
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    Something has become lately justifying publications about this bloody executioner.
    Blood, tears and mountains of corpses brought this pseudo "savior" to the country.
    Stalin and his accomplices, “revolutionaries,” brought the country to the state of which the author is so lamented. They destroyed, divided, shot and plundered the Great Empire (does not apply to the identity of some of the Romanovs).
    And now they write about it in the third person ?! What - we don’t know WHO did this? Why did it become fashionable to write about the terrible consequences of the February and October coups as if “unidentified persons” had done it, and the “crisis manager” - Stalin had to rake it?
    And why does the author not write that the Western countries have gone so far ahead of the gap, precisely because of proletarian (dictatorship) policies? IM ("revolutionaries") did not get the country with a plow - Russia was in the leading position in some economic indicators. And confidently developed. It was THEY (and Stalin among them) who returned the country 100 years ago AND NOBODY OTHER!
    And Western countries made a leap forward, without many millions of innocent victims, without humiliating the dignity of educated, cultural and intelligent people. We still cannot get out of the cult of the gangster-criminal world. For decades, the efforts of such Stalinists, the expression "Cho smart what?" - It became the humiliation and determination of NOT HIS OWN man, not the proletarian type ....
    I also think that the presentation of such materials may be an attempt to raise (by provoking a dispute in the comments) in this way the rating and "readability". If so, then it is not worthy.
    1. tatra 26 December 2018 21: 47 New
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      So, what did Stalinophobes prove about HIMSELF after Gorbachev gave them freedom of speech and gave them the republics of the USSR?
      That ALL of them are pathological liars and hypocrites, who always pretend to be those who are beneficial to them at the moment, with a mental tendency to libelous accusations of crimes, enemies of their country of the people who are against all the best for their country and people, criminals and their country and people, and before the rule of law, and before the age-old rules and values ​​of mankind.
    2. flint 27 December 2018 10: 41 New
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      You are talking nonsense. What did Stalin personally ruin the Russian Empire? Yes, Stalin at that time was in third roles (give it - bring it) in the Bolshevik party, which itself was on a bird’s rights in the then party hierarchy. The country was destroyed by large industrialists and a pack of talkers and loafers eager for power, of which we have always had enough in Russia. Plus, the tedious king (of course, a good man, but he could not be allowed to the throne for a cannon shot). Well, then yes -
      They destroyed, divided, shot and plundered the Great Empire
      , which Stalin had to restore, which not only restored it, but also brought it to the level of the leading countries of the world. As for the millions of victims, present these claims to your idols - to the Western countries, which, in order to get out of the great depression, nurtured and nurtured Hitler, set him on the USSR, and then profited from all subsequent events, receiving money as from the Third Reich, so with the USSR, eventually lifting up their economies from ruin and becoming economic monopolists over the whole world. It was our multimillion-dollar sacrifices that allowed them to make a leap forward. So speaking of the main culprits of the problems of our country in those days, you are looking in the wrong direction.
      1. swyatoslav 27 December 2018 20: 13 New
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        I will not argue about the role of Dzhugashvili in the terrorist movement of the "revolutionaries", but definitely - he had a hand in this. It is unlikely that he from the "third roles" immediately replaced by another executioner (Ulyanov) was offered. And if I remember history correctly, it was the Bolshevik party that celebrated the victory, and was not "on bird's rights." Do not belittle the "merits" of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) - it was they who overthrew the old system and assumed this responsibility for the consequences of this event. And now they have nothing to do with it ?! Only strong ones admit their mistakes.
        Western countries - I’m not idols. If there are no arguments, then do not be humiliated by the transition to individuals with the attribution of what is not.
        All your text is demagogy. And the FACTS are as follows: during the reign of Stalin, the USSR suffered many millions of victims. And there is no excuse for this. Justification "the king did not know what the boyars are doing" - does not pass. He led this whole pack - it means him and answer. There is nothing to talk about.
        It is pointless to argue about who set people against whom: there are diametrically different points of view. Personally, I do not support more than one of them. The situation was difficult in the world and in the country.
        To learn useful lessons from the past, you need to look for problems in yourself (so as not to repeat mistakes), and not to appoint the guilty on the side.
        1. flint 27 December 2018 22: 42 New
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          Your whole text is demagogy

          You see, you have studied history for a long time, if you do not remember elementary things. To begin with, remember who committed the February revolution (coup), it was not the great October socialist revolution, but rather the bourgeois revolution, in which the Bolsheviks did not take any part because there were not so many of them, and they were in prison, who were in immigration, who are in deep underground because they were illegal. As a result of the February coup, the tsar abdicated the throne, and power passed to the interim government, which, by its decisions on complete freedom in the country, plunged it into complete chaos and collapse, which the Bolsheviks took advantage of in October, who were able to leave the underground. At the time of the October Revolution, the country was no longer there, it had already begun to fall apart. So who overthrew the old regime and plunged the empire into complete collapse, the loss of all national suburbs and the subsequent terrible civil war? As for the millions of victims, it is indirectly possible to admit Stalin’s guilt only for the victims at the beginning of the Second World War, but by his actions during the Second World War, and even after he completely atoned for it, leading the country from a complete disaster 41 to a complete victory in the 45th. And for the next 7 years, the country was actively and successfully recovering from the terrible consequences precisely under his leadership.
          To learn useful lessons from the past, you need to look for problems in yourself

          To learn useful lessons from the past, first you need to know this past well, and not to write what is not clear.
          1. swyatoslav 29 December 2018 23: 07 New
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            “The direct result of the February Revolution was the abdication of Nicholas II, the termination of the Romanov dynasty and the formation of the Provisional Government under the chairmanship of Prince George Lvov. Almost simultaneously, the revolutionary democratic forces formed a parallel authority - the Petrograd Soviet - which led to a situation known as dual power” - Wikipedia.
            This is a story worth teaching you. Though Wikipedia would be read before writing.
            Maybe it was the bourgeoisie of soldiers from the front who urged them to leave and create soldiers' committees? Was it the bourgeoisie that raised the workers, artisans and soldiers of the garrison to the riots with which the February revolution began? Pogroms also arranged a bourgeois? Historians, damn it .....
            And the Red Terror (when they shot, buried alive, drowned and beaten to death with WHOLE FAMILIES - this is from the Cheka), who announced? But collectivization? What about dispossession? Mass repressions (without disputes regarding the number of repressed - EVERYONE recognizes them), the Gulag is not a Stalinist product?
            And about Stalin’s atonement for the millions of victims - you tell the relatives of the people he has ruined. Does this mean HIS GUILITY did the soldiers in the trenches atone for, repressed at the construction sites of the national economy (for which you are so happy), scientists in “sharazhki” and children behind machines in factories? Did he mean he atoned for it with their lives and labor? And the disaster of 41-42 did not happen under his leadership (the most terrible losses during the Second World War)?
            Once again, to make it clear: I am not defending the Romanovs and I know all the positive things that happened in the USSR, but I am against exalting the murderer of millions of innocent people. He is not the savior of Russia.
            1. flint 30 December 2018 12: 14 New
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              Regarding Wikipedia, it looks like the expression “you look in a book and you see a fig” is about you.
              [quote] parallel authority - Petrograd Soviet [/ quote [quote]] Maybe this bourgeoisie of soldiers from the front called for the departure and creation of soldiers' committees? Was it the bourgeoisie that raised the workers, artisans and soldiers of the garrison to the riots with which the February revolution began? Pogroms also arranged a bourgeois? Historians, damn it [/ quote]
              (Petrograd Soviet, Petrosoviet) is a collegial representative body of power created by the secret order in Petrograd in the early days of the February Revolution and aspiring to the highest power not only in Petrograd, but throughout Russia [1]. Prior to the convening of the First All-Russian Congress of Soviets of Workers 'and Soldiers' Deputies (June 3 (16) - June 24 (July 7) 1917), the Petrosoviet was the All-Russian Center for Revolutionary Democracy, an organ of the revolutionary democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry, which relied on the armed forces - the working militia and regular reserve regiments of the Petrograd Military District. The immediate predecessor of the Petrograd Soviet was the Working Group of the Central Military Industrial Committee (CVPC), created Mensheviks. Here, together with members of the Menshevik faction of the Duma, representatives of other socialist parties, workers of legal trade unions, cooperatives and other organizations, the Provisional Executive Committee of the Council of Workers 'Deputies was formed - the body to convene the constituent assembly of the Council of Workers' Deputies. Its members included K. A. Gvozdev, B. O. Bogdanov (Mensheviks, leaders of the Central Military-Industrial Complex), N. S. Chkheidze, M. I. Skobelev (deputies of the State Duma from the Menshevik faction), N. Yu. Kapelinsky, K. S. Grinevich (Shekhter) (Menshevik-internationalists), N. D. Sokolov (non-factional social democrat), G. M. Erlich (Bund). The Bolsheviks were not part of the Provisional Executive Committee.
              The first (constituent) meeting of the Petrosoviet opened in the Tauride Palace on February 27 (March 12) at 9 pm and ended on the night of February 28. At it, the initial composition of the standing Executive Committee was elected and the appeal “To the Population of Petrograd and Russia” was adopted, which said:
              The Council of Workers' Deputies, sitting in the State Duma, sets as its main task the organization of the popular forces and the struggle for the final consolidation of political freedom and popular government in Russia ...
              We invite the entire population of the capital to immediately rally around the Council, form local committees in the regions and take control of all local affairs. Together, by common forces, we will fight for the complete elimination of the old government and the convening of the Constituent Assembly, elected on the basis of universal, equal, direct and secret suffrage.

              If you are able to understand what is written, then you will understand that the overthrow of state power and the subsequent collapse of the country were not organized by the Bolsheviks at all, but then they skillfully took advantage of the mess and lack of intelligence and will to clean up the various liberal-democratic talkers who were then in power and intercepted this power, but it was already much later - closer to the fall, and before that, the country had already begun to disintegrate with all its natural consequences.
              [quote] A red terror [/ quote] A white terror as you? I can also angrily announce to you the executions and instillation by the whites. Can you imagine what a civil war is in such a huge country and how difficult it was to restore order in it? And with the end of gr. the war did not stop petty dirty tricks; later, during the time of the NEP, a large number of people who clearly were not on the side of the current government also divorced, from here the repressions, which in many ways are certainly not justified, but I think are necessary for the state. And Stalin really lifted the country from ruins and turned it into one of the strongest and most developed countries on the planet.
              1. swyatoslav 30 December 2018 18: 03 New
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                I suggest you turn on your head. And just a little thought.
                The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks are representatives of one political group, the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party, or the RSDLP. The difference was only in the definition of a party member.
                By 1912, the RSDLP was finally divided into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks, the paths of ideologists of both directions diverged. The Bolshevik Party became known as the RSDLP (b).

                Before the February Revolution of 1917, the Bolsheviks were engaged in both legal and illegal forms of social and political activity. They established the newspaper Pravda. The Bolsheviks received several seats in the State Duma of the Russian Empire. After the outbreak of World War I, repressions began against the Bolsheviks - their faction in the State Duma was disbanded. But after the February Revolution, the Bolsheviks got a chance to return to the political arena. In March 1917, Pravda began to print again.

                These are the same "revolutionaries" with the same ideology. And the small letter "b" in the name did not change the essence much. The Mensheviks were considered a more moderate wing, compared with the "stubborn" Bolsheviks.
                At the beginning of the Civil War in 1917, the Mensheviks entered into a confrontation with the Bolsheviks, but were able to join along with them the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, or the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, the main authority in the country in the first years after the revolution.
                Subsequently, your idols the Bolsheviks repressed them all. And then they began to devour themselves. And the people inhabiting their country.
                As for terror - the Bolsheviks officially declared it - at the state level and according to historians, the "white terror" was declared in response and not on the scale that the "red terror".
                About who undermined and overthrew the old government: Stalin, a member of the RSDLP, a supporter of the Bolsheviks, personally organized strikes, demonstrations and riots. He became the head of the Bolsheviks of Transcaucasia. For his active work AGAINST the authorities, he was repeatedly imprisoned and exiled (didn’t you speak?). For active inflammatory and subversive activities, he was CJSC (on the recommendation of Lenin) elected a member of the Central Committee. HEADS in St. Petersburg the illegal work and faction of the Bolsheviks in the State Duma, as well as the newspapers Pravda and Zvezda. Actively involved in the development of the ideology of Bolshevism with Lenin!
                Already in 1915, he and Lenin were discussing the transformation of the imperialist war into a civil war (they didn’t ruin the army, you say?) !!! While Lenin lived in a hut, Stalin in July 1917 was the head of the Central Committee of the party. He personally supervised the work of the 6th congress. All his life he was engaged in the struggle against the king and competitors. He and others like him were professional “revolutionaries” (terrorists), called for, planned and organized an armed seizure of power.
                As they called themselves - the Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, anarchists, etc. - not the point. It was they who blew up the kings and shot at the ministers. They trained and handed out weapons to workers, organized demonstrations and strikes.
                1. flint 30 December 2018 19: 43 New
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                  Oh how! You claim that these sworn Bolsheviks overthrew the tsar -
                  And if I remember history correctly, it was the Bolshevik party that celebrated the victory, and was not "on bird's rights." Do not belittle the "merits" of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) - it was they who overthrew the old system
                  and now
                  as they called themselves - the Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, anarchists, etc. - not the point.

                  This is precisely the essence, because, firstly, in those days in Russia, all these personalities were virtually no one — so little talkers, capable, if only for some muck, and secondly, no revolution can be carried out without a lot of money — the last an example of the Maidan (or do you think that this is a spontaneous outburst of the working masses that overthrew the bloody corrupt official Yanukovych?).
                  Therefore, the political crisis in Russia in February 1917 was provoked by the liberals to overthrow tsarism. Its organizer was the financial and industrial oligarchy, whose goal was to seize power in Russia under the slogans of introducing a constitution and creating a “people's government”. The second task of this revolution was the withdrawal of the Russian Empire from the First World War without the gains it had achieved and without the solution of the Eastern question promised by the Entente. The leaders of the liberals, as in 1904-1905, again relied on the defeat of tsarism, now in the First World War. But unlike the first revolution, this time they had a government tribune of the State Duma. It has become a powerful factor for the preparation of a new "democratic" revolution. The key organizer of the coup in February 2017 was the Progressive Bloc of the IV State Duma. The members of this bloc were a professor of history, a cadet leader (People’s Freedom Party), editor of Rech magazine P. N. Milyukov, Octobrists A. I. Guchkov and M. V. Rodzianko, and British Ambassador to Russia George William Buchanan.
                  In his letter, the leader of the Progressive bloc Milyukov himself took full responsibility for the coup: “But, of course, we must admit that the moral responsibility for what happened is on us, that is, on the bloc of parties of the State Duma.” The Progressive Bloc included 236 Duma members out of 442 members of the State Duma, three factions of the State Council (center, academic group and non-partisan). Thus, the number of destroyers in Russia amounted to more than 300 people. They set the task of exerting pressure on the government to carry out political reform to create a “government of trust” from members of the “Progressive Bloc”.
                  1. swyatoslav 31 December 2018 18: 31 New
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                    I have already given you a link to the biography of Stalin - as the hero of the article. And it is quite clear from them that it was the radical Bolsheviks who actively (real) opposed the tsarist regime. they were the ones who mutilated and raised the poor and the proletarians to riots (including armed ones), acts of terror, demonstrations, and so on. All this created the movement “from below” about which they said “the lower classes do not want to”.
                    It was the bourgeois who took advantage of the wave that the Bolsheviks raised. However, they lacked organization and experience in managing the rebellious masses of illiterate people. But the Bolsheviks had such an abundance of experience: hundreds of actions throughout the empire, publication of revolutionary leaflets and even newspapers, an extensive network of cells with extensive experience and agents. They chose the right moment - having prepared and delivered a decisive blow in October, against the already "loose" government.
                    And there are no contradictions in my reasoning - I still believe that it was precisely the radical wing of the RSDLP that created a revolutionary situation in the country and destroyed the army and industry. It’s clear that they didn’t do this alone, they allied very well when necessary: ​​with the Mensheviks, anarchists, criminals, Socialist-Revolutionaries, various bombers ... the main thing is that it would be useful for THEIR business. This is all one big army of "revolutionaries." However, the Bolsheviks combined pragmatism, unprincipledness and fanaticism in order to occupy a dominant position in the chaos created by common efforts.
                    Noble gentlemen of the bourgeois, with their pride, intelligence and squeamishness towards the lower strata of society, such a layer would not have been curtailed.
                    “- But haven't we already paid too high a price, and still pay for this social experiment?
                    - Revolutions in white gloves are not made. As long as there is no violence against the masses, there is no other way to power. The energy and massiveness of terror must be encouraged. Mass searches. Shot for storing weapons. Ruthless terror against the kulaks, priests and White Guards; dubious lock up in a concentration camp. To shoot conspirators and hesitant, without asking anyone and not allowing idiotic red tape. To make people see, tremble for hundreds of miles around. Let 90% of the Russian people die, if only 10% survived the world revolution.
                    Bad is the revolutionary who, at the moment of intense struggle, stops before the inviolability of the law. If the law impedes the development of the revolution, it is repealed or amended. In the struggle for power, all means are good. "- Lenin, Complete Works.
                    The bourgeois could not do this, therefore they could not take advantage of the rebellion raised by the socialists and others like them.
                    I propose to stop this discussion. It is clear that everyone has their own point of view.
                    In conclusion: now there are also many disagreeing with Putin’s line, what - to the wall of everyone and to the link? How did Stalin and Lenin bequeathed: "They cut down the forest - the chips fly"? Rhetorical questions - no need to answer ....
                    God forbid, anyone to be this sliver.
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          Do not belittle the "merits" of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) - it was they who overthrew the old system and assumed this responsibility for the consequences of this event.

          Here it should be clarified that the autocracy (feudal OEF) in Russia was overthrown by Russian patriots-revolutionaries. But the bourgeois (capitalist OEF) society that was just emerging in Russia was overthrown by the Bolsheviks. All this happened in less than 1 year. Moreover, if the movement from feudal OEF to capitalist is a revolution, then the movement from capitalist OEF is back to feudal (and NEP is a typical "new feudalism"), this is a real revolution (it is like a revolution, just the opposite).
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  • Thompson 26 December 2018 21: 56 New
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    For the whole of 2017, Russian courts acquitted 1600 people (0,2% of all sentences). There were 446 indictments per one acquittal.
    Just the facts
  • mavrus 26 December 2018 22: 28 New
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    Quote: Bug_Nyuk
    dadadadadadad ..... ё -may ... so you went to live with the Red Jucheists .. there you will learn all the charms of the slave-owning commissar ... again, you will praise the cannibal and Satan ... again these wet dreams of undercut Red-bellied people about executions, hunger and cold ... and that's interesting .. all this communist trash that grazes here sees itself exclusively with a gun in his hand and not at all by the firing wall ...

    Why did the Jucheists, we almost all survived the liberal 90s, and executions, and hunger and cold, while those like you plundered everything that is possible and impossible, to the stormy and prolonged applause of your foreign owners.
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  • Llur 27 December 2018 00: 52 New
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    Stalinophobia is a kind of disease that affects the brain, disables memory, logic, common sense ...
    1. Vadim237 27 December 2018 01: 36 New
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      What year are you born?
  • high 27 December 2018 02: 01 New
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    Thus, Stalin and his associates embodied the ideals of the Russian civilization matrix code, Light (Holy) Russia. They tried to create a new reality, where justice, truth, good and honest work will prevail.

    We must not forget that Stalin destroyed millions of Soviet citizens, turned innocently arrested citizens into slaves, forcing them to work for free: Belomorkanal .....
    We must believe Marshal Zhukov that the lack of professionalism of Stalin led to the defeat of the Red Army in the second half of 1941:
    Zhukov :
    ,, "Speaking of our preparedness for war from the point of view of the economy and the economy, one cannot ignore such a factor as subsequent assistance from the Allies.
    First of all, of course, on the part of the Americans, because the British in this sense helped us minimally.
    When analyzing all aspects of a war, this cannot be discounted. We would be in a difficult situation without American gunpowder, we could not produce as much ammunition as we needed.
    Without the American Studebakers, we would have nothing to carry our artillery on.
    Yes, they largely provided our front-line transport.

    The production of special steels necessary for the various needs of the war was also associated with a number of American supplies. "
    It is undeniable that the Americans drove us so much material without which we could not form our reserves and could not continue the war ...

    We had no explosives, gunpowder.
    There was nothing to equip rifle cartridges. The Americans really helped us out with gunpowder, explosives. And how much they drove us to sheet steel!
    How could we quickly set up tank production if it weren’t for American steel help? ,,

    Impossible to forget:
    The Red Army lost 7 people in the first six months of the war:
    2 people were killed and wounded (100% of all losses).
    3 800 000 - prisoners (about 45% of all losses).
    1 - 000 - deserters evading the front and captivity
    1. Nehist 27 December 2018 05: 11 New
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      But wasn’t that the same Zhukov who was the chief of the general staff? But was it not his fault that the Red Army was driven into this position? Who else but he was responsible for developing cover plans and troop actions? You either remove the odente pants or cross.
    2. efimich41 27 December 2018 08: 40 New
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      Have you taken these figures from Solzhenitsyn?
    3. flint 27 December 2018 10: 51 New
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      Before believing unconditionally Zhukov, you would have thought for a start, and when did he write it and for whom? Well, Zhukov really wanted to become and be the Minister of Defense, and these memoirs were very good at the box office to the main “whistleblower” of Stalin, whom Stalin repeatedly called simply a fool, whom he really was.
  • Mechanic 27 December 2018 05: 00 New
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    in 1926, the population of the USSR was 147 million. , and in 1939 already 170 million. It turns out women gave birth faster than Stalin shot. Something liberal propaganda does not add up
    1. tatra 27 December 2018 06: 48 New
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      And the Stalinophobes who captured Russia, without any executions, staged the genocide of the Russian / Russian people. Mortality in Russia after 1991 amounted to more than 14 million people, as much as the Stalinophobes of the USSR, along with the Nazis killed the citizens of the RSFSR in the Great Patriotic War.
      But in the post-Soviet period, the "enormous humanity" of Stalinophobes does not apply. NO benefits to stage performances.
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        RX. 27 December 2018 09: 13 New
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        Quote: tatra
        Russian / Russian people

        There are no Russian people.
        It happens the Russian nation.
        And the Russian people.
        And the population of Russia.
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      Quote: Mechanic
      in 1926, the population of the USSR was 147 million. , and in 1939 already 170 million. It turns out women gave birth faster than Stalin shot.

      What are these statistics for? She doesn't talk about anything. Yes, slaves were born faster. And so it was in all the slave states known in history. What's next?
      1. Llur 31 December 2018 14: 01 New
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        The example is incorrect - the USSR was not a slave-owning state, on the contrary - a country of the free.
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          Quote: Llur
          The USSR was not a slave-owning state; on the contrary, it was a free country.

          The USSR was a theocratic (essentially pagan) state based on the slave-owning mode of production. With an extreme degree of centralization.
          Learn political economy and social science. Everything is written there.
          Yes, and one more thing, “free”, how was the USSR about going abroad? Outside the "country of the free"?
          1. Llur 1 January 2019 13: 51 New
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            Alas, the USSR was a country with a progressive economy, the strongest science (at the time of collapse) and the most powerful army. A strong army is simply theoretically impossible without a strong science. Teach history, and do not listen to Western propaganda, designed for people who are not able to reason and draw conclusions. And the presence / absence of freedom of crossing the border is not an indicator of any real achievements in something. In the Russian Federation there is freedom of exit, but there is no democracy, freedom, and at least some achievements comparable to the achievements of the Union, the Russian Federation is now a police state.
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              Quote: Llur
              Alas, the USSR was a country with a progressive economy

              Apparently therefore, it was a very poor country with a practically impoverished population.
              Quote: Llur
              the strongest science (at the time of collapse)

              Will we count the number of Nobel prizes?
              We will not, because there is nothing special to consider.
              Quote: Llur
              and the strongest army

              According to my estimates (and personal observations), the Soviet army was practically not operational. Which she demonstrated in Afghanistan.
              Quote: Llur
              And the presence / absence of freedom of crossing the border is not an indicator of any real achievements in something.

              The lack of freedom to cross the border is one of the signs of a slave-owning mode of production (system). Slaves are forbidden to leave their masters. Otherwise, everyone will scatter in different directions, and who will work for a penny?
              Quote: Llur
              There is freedom of exit in the Russian Federation, but there is no democracy, freedom and at least some achievements comparable to the achievements of the Union

              Was there democracy and freedom in the USSR? In what places? You are just talking nonsense.
              Quote: Llur
              Russia is now a police state.

              I will not give an assessment of the Russian Federation. Because I don’t traditionally comment on the post-Soviet period.
              But I only note that according to the canons of classical political economy, the slave state (with the development, and not the degradation of society) follows the feudal state. Remember this sequence well. Directly from a slave-owning society to a bourgeois (capitalist) transition, it is impossible in principle.
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                And again you are wrong - the population was many times richer. It was because of the clear superiority of the economy and industry of the Union that our enemies could defeat only by betrayal. It is rather stupid to consider the Nobel Prizes - Western prizes, outstanding to Western scholars who ignored the achievements of Soviet science. There is a clear contradiction - the West was supposedly ahead of the rest, but the Union defeated Hitler, the union — the leader of the space race (tell the naive idiots about flying to the moon), and the Union — a truly social and just state. But Oia will not grow to the bourgeoisie until it crawls out of slavery.
  • Alex66 27 December 2018 07: 13 New
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    The first is a return to the foundations of the old world: bourgeois-capitalist, liberal-democratic. Recognize that the future of mankind is the Western matrix of development (in fact, this is the White Project, the Westernists, who killed the Russian Empire, the autocracy). That is, red Moscow could bargain for the honorable conditions of surrender
    Putin and Medvedev and the oligarchs have chosen this path, now they are agreeing on the conditions under which they will rule Russia, the West believes that as a winner he has the right to dispose of wealth and he doesn’t need our gaskets, he will set his managers, but sooner or later they will agree, then we will remain 15 million. Thatcher suggested.
  • g1washntwn 27 December 2018 08: 22 New
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    Let us nevertheless abstract ourselves from the “good / bad Stalin” formula and look at its result, where the country, after the collapse of the Empire, embarked on a sustainable path of development. No one disputes that this was achieved later with blood. The expediency of a number of actions can be challenged hoarsely, but the country has been put back on track and if it were not for the Western draft of the Third Reich, it would not be a fact that they would remain the favorites of the industrial race.
    By the way, with the Cold War, the West had the same goals - to restrain development by non-military means. The modern stage is a continuation of the same, because nothing has been invented to replace the carpet bombing, the information war and the strangulation of the economies in the West.
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      Quote: g1washntwn
      de country after the collapse of the Empire

      Arranged by the Bolsheviks.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      embarked on a sustainable path of development

      Generally degradation. In terms of the development of society in 1991, the USSR was just in the middle of the 19th century. The moment of the abolition of serfdom. 150 years old dog under the tail.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      but the country was put back on track

      Bosh what.
      Quote: g1washntwn
      and if not for the western draft of the third Reich

      I could be wrong, but it seems the West declared war on September 3, 1939? At the same time when the USSR, together with the Reich, pulled Poland?
      Quote: g1washntwn
      not the fact that they would remain the favorites of the industrial race

      Enchanting. No, there are simply no words to describe the expressed insanity with words.
      1. g1washntwn 27 December 2018 09: 41 New
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        You do not counterargument my position, but quote propaganda clichés. Very weak, even a minus in the rating does not pull.
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          RX. 27 December 2018 09: 45 New
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          Quote: g1washntwn
          You have no counterargument of my position

          Basic values ​​do not need to be argued. Like axioms in mathematics.
          A villain, for example, does not need to be explained that he is a villain. This he himself must know. His mother had to teach this in childhood.
          Nothing personal, just an abstract example.
      2. avi1301 27 December 2018 12: 26 New
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        And Poland did not derbanil Czech Republic? Found what to refer to. To the Hyena of Europe.
      3. Llur 31 December 2018 14: 03 New
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        You are certainly wrong. You were brainwashed by Western propaganda.
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          Quote: Llur
          You were brainwashed by Western propaganda.

          What about you? Do not guess?
          1. Mordvin 3 31 December 2018 14: 43 New
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            What about you? Do not guess?

            No, we have no idea. Enlighten.
          2. Llur 1 January 2019 13: 44 New
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            But I'm only interested in the truth, alas. It is useless to argue with the truth.
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              Quote: Llur
              I'm only interested in the truth, alas. It is useless to argue with the truth.

              Exactly. Therefore, the lies of Sovagitprop are in full view. And the end result of "socialism" is its collapse, too.
              How much rope does not curl ....
              But some do not want to see the obvious. Totalitarian sects, they just do not let go of their claws. Devastation, it’s in the head.
              1. Llur 4 January 2019 17: 41 New
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                Only by lies, suppression of facts and betrayal were able to destroy the Union. Russia is now at a crossroads - or return to the true path, the path of truth, or its traitors will ruin it.
  • loaln 27 December 2018 09: 01 New
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    And the mafia won. So Russianness could not resist venality?
  • nikvic46 27 December 2018 09: 37 New
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    Bacteriological weapons are no less formidable than other types of weapons. These laboratories are located
    near our border. Moreover, it can be used in peacetime. The merit of the environment of Stalin is that it
    could create a very strict sanitary service, which was subsequently weakened. It is necessary to pay close attention to this.
  • efimich41 27 December 2018 09: 46 New
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    In defense of Stalin
    I wonder where in the country there are so many people who hate JV Stalin. After all, all these haters did not live under Stalin, and perhaps they did not live in the USSR either when they became adult conscious citizens who were able to think sensibly. If they had lived even a little in the country that we lost thanks to Khrushchev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they would probably have changed their worldview. Stalin simply did not have time to complete his captives for the construction of socialism in a single country, Khrushchev, a poisoner, prevented him. In addition, Stalin was too gentle a man, did not tolerate violence, but was forced to destroy the enemies of the people if he saw that they could not be fixed by any prison term. Because of this human softness, Russophobes, liberals, and other traitors and enemies of the people, that we are now observing, have survived in the country. If Khrushchev had not released prematurely from the places of detention of Bandera, Totskists, spies and traitors, then perhaps the USSR would have survived. After all, the people did not want its collapse. Today who are Russophobes and Stalinophobes - This is scum, which should not be a place among us. The wind of history will blow them off the path of the people to a brighter future. The sneaky West is preventing us from moving forward faster, I hope that the country will overcome this.
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      Stalin simply did not have time to complete his captives for the construction of socialism in a single country.

      The "construction" of socialism in the USSR was completed:
      - mainly in December 1936
      - completely in June 1940
      Started in December 1927
      Teach materiel.
      Quote: efimich41
      In addition, Stalin was too gentle a man, did not tolerate violence, but was forced to destroy the enemies of the people if he saw that they could not be fixed by any prison term.

      In 1936, 1 people were shot in the USSR.
      In 1937, 353 people were shot in the USSR.
      In 1938, 328 people were shot in the USSR.
      In 1939, 883 people were shot in the USSR.
      Well, let's say, in 1939 the enemies of socialism ended. And in 1937, did he suddenly see clearly? Or were there other reasons? Maybe the "construction" of socialism had to be completed completely? After all, it is necessary, as “coincided”, in December 1936, Dzhugashvili announced the end of the “construction” of socialism in general terms, and since 1937 he began to shoot out the “comrades” that had become unnecessary to him.
  • Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 19 New
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    Civilization, matrices, code, Russia ... thank God still the Gardaria or whatever Mr. Samsonov didn’t drag .... what is the point of the article? That no one knows which country was at the end of the civil war and what happened then? Samsonov again does not sleep and article twin after twin sculpt
  • Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 10: 35 New
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    Quote: serpent
    How so? Superpower are we or where?

    In general, what reality do you live in? According to the results of 2017, economically, the Russian Federation ranks 20th among 53 significant economies in the world. 0,4% of the whole world. Slightly smaller than Mexico and a little cooler than Israel.
    Spain is twice as large. Taiwan, three times. Italy five times. The United States is 81 times (31% of the world).
    You end with this terminology. They will laugh.

    by what indicators do you consider? all these ratings are from the evil one
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      Quote: Andrey VOV
      by what indicators do you consider? all these ratings are from the evil one

      Who said anything about ratings?
      Serious international institutions conduct serious research. If you do not read them, but read all sorts of nonsense, this does not mean that there is no such research.
      If it’s interesting, in recent years Russia has significantly improved its position. Even 5 years ago it was much worse.
      For example, Russia's share in 2017 was 0,38% of the global total. And in 2009, this share was 0,17%.
      The US share in 2017 was 31,0% of the global total. And in 2009 this share was 25,8%.
      China's share in 2017 is 10,9% of the global total. And in 2009 this share was 2,8%.
      Europe and Britain sank very much.
      1. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 13: 38 New
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        Well, yes, they think so as it should and all of their so-called studies are carried out without leaving your desk and computer
        1. RX.
          RX. 27 December 2018 14: 14 New
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          And you should think so and all their so-called studies are carried out without leaving your desk and computer

          Do you need to conduct research with a box in your hands? Do you only know such studies?
          These are other studies. For them, you do not need to go to the clinic.
          1. Andrey VOV 27 December 2018 15: 20 New
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            A box and a jar to hand over to you, for the subject of reason, otherwise parasites have gnawed the whole brain
          2. tatra 27 December 2018 17: 27 New
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            Another kremlebot.
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  • avi1301 27 December 2018 11: 27 New
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    Quote: rx.
    Quote: Mr Credo
    They helped and created a counterbalance in the person of Hitler.

    Gee-gee-gee.
    Quote: Mr Credo
    And who proposed the idea of ​​an iron curtain?

    THE USSR. He began to be fenced off from all fences and other engineering structures.

    Churchill suggested for your information !!!
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  • avi1301 27 December 2018 11: 37 New
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    Quote: rx.
    Quote: Mr Credo
    Is it labor dynasties or feudalism? Or a caste society?

    According to the laws of the development of society, following the slave-owning society, feudal always ensues. And never, bourgeois. This comes after the feudal.
    Serfdom was abolished in the middle of the 18th century. But socialism fell at the end of the 20th century.
    In total, we have 150 delinquencies ... Russia years. And as if this is not lagging forever.

    But how did your beloved America pass feudalism ?????????????????
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  • Evil echo 27 December 2018 16: 04 New
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    Quote: rx.
    Quote: Evil Echo
    The breeze is slowly rising ...

    And do not hope. After the trial of "socialism," even the grave is likely to be razed to the ground. Such people were generally buried outside the cemetery fence.

    Et just your dreams