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MiG-31 destroyed cruise missiles at a distance of 40 km

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The MiG-31 interceptor fighters conducted a doctrine over the Urals, including a missile attack with a conditional enemy aircraft, reports RIA News with reference to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.




According to the exercise scenario, an order was received to invade the enemy’s aircraft into the airspace of Russia. For the interception, the link of the supersonic interceptors MiG-31BM of the air regiment stationed in the Perm region was raised, the report says.

During the exercise, the pilots searched and destroyed cruise missiles at altitudes from 6 to 8 thousand meters and at a distance of up to 40 km.

The tasks were carried out under conditions of active counteraction from the air defenses of the conditional enemy, whose role was played by the C-300 air defense system located in the Sverdlovsk region.

In total, more than 50 units of equipment were involved in the exercise, including the 4 of the MiG-31 fighter.

Recall, two weeks earlier, the crew of the MiG-31 intercepted a cruise missile at an altitude of more than 15 thousand meters.

Having made a flight to a given area, the crew completed the search and destruction of the air target, the parameters of which were obtained from air defense weapons. Conditional goal - a cruise missile - flew in the lower stratosphere with a speed of 800 km / h, the destruction distance was about 100 km.

A feature of this interception was the rise of the aircraft to an altitude of 15 km in order to create optimal conditions for detecting the target. The speed of the fighter was about 2,5 thousand. Km / hour.

MiG-31 is designed to intercept and destroy targets at low, medium and high altitudes in simple and complex meteorological conditions at any time of the day. A group of 4 interceptors is able to control the airspace with a length of about 1100 km along the front.
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Maxim Scriabin / www.airforce.ru
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  1. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 December 2018 15: 31
    -1
    Fine! The 31st must be practiced precisely in the Kyrgyz Republic - the main weapon (shock) of the Americans and NATO
    1. Gogia
      Gogia 25 December 2018 15: 59
      +24
      Where did you see axes flying 8 km? Whose rockets do they want to shoot? In the USSR, exercises were once intercepted against the backdrop of the land of the Kyrgyz Republic. And this is some kind of circus ... :(
      1. DarkMatter
        DarkMatter 25 December 2018 16: 20
        +16
        I wanted to write the same thing. Where are the axes and where is 8 km No.
        I don’t know, maybe it’s possible that there are normal teachings, the results of which are not advertised, but there are those for the public. I don’t understand, this is not the first time I have been paying attention to this. Teachings, not teachings. Not even demonstrations.
        1. For example
          For example 25 December 2018 16: 46
          -1
          There are still journalists (great experts in the Russian language) trying.
          at heights of 6 to 8 thousand meters

          What does it mean? From 6 meters to 8 thousand meters? Or from 6 thousand meters to 8 thousand meters?
          Understand what you want?
          Are they in a hurry somewhere or do they have limitations in the number of letters written?
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        2. traper
          traper 25 December 2018 16: 51
          +8
          Do you seriously think that the "tomahawk" is 2500 km. able to sneak 15m. above the ground.?
          1. UMA-UMA
            UMA-UMA 25 December 2018 17: 01
            0
            Do you seriously think that 6-8tys ?! A few hundred meters.
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon 25 December 2018 18: 01
          +4
          Quote: DarkMatter
          I wanted to write the same thing. Where are the axes and where is 8 km

          In fact, they are at an extremely low altitude in the final leg of the flight. If all 2000 km go "down", how much fuel will they have? Their initial section (for "Calibers" too) is high-altitude. That's where they intercepted.
          1. bk316
            bk316 25 December 2018 19: 16
            -3
            In fact, they are at a very low altitude in the final section of the flight.

            In fact, it’s exactly the opposite, at the final stretch they make a slide, but go at a low altitude THE WHOLE MARCH SITE. Already 500 100 or 30 it does not matter
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 25 December 2018 20: 01
              +1
              Quote: bk316
              in the final section they make a slide

              Who told you about "Tomahawks"? Neither Axes nor Calibers do any slides. Do not confuse them with anti-ship missiles such as Granit, Onyx.
              Here is the defeat of targets with "Axes". All from level flight, to the side, without any "slides". hi
              1. bk316
                bk316 25 December 2018 20: 31
                -1
                Neither Axes nor Gauges do any slides.


                Axes with fairly ancient modifications have 3 modes of undermining: from horizontal flight, from diving (before this climb - a hill) and from undermining when flying over the target. Recently, since the barrage.
                You can read at least here
                https://topwar.ru/35142-topor-voyny-pyat-mifov-o-rakete-tomagavk.html
                And flying with a low-altitude envelope over the entire marching section is the hallmark of axes.
                Learn the materiel. laughing and by the way do not forget that the tomahawk is not a rocket but a family.

                p / s Here perhaps everything is simpler and shorter:
                https://militaryarms.ru/boepripasy/rakety/tomagavk/
        4. Iline
          Iline 25 December 2018 18: 37
          +3
          I don’t remember a year ago, but somehow such exercises were conducted over the northern seas. We launched four missiles, the MiG-31 (2 pcs.) Managed to shoot down two of them, which flew a little higher than 1 thousand meters. And two missiles flew to the landfill without any problems.
          Here it must be said that the detection of subtle targets against the background of the underlying surface, and especially above the sea, is a very difficult task for locators. Based on this, our probable opponents, and we are pressed closer to the ground. But at the heights given in the article, there are no big problems for detection.
          It seems to be like some modifications were carried out on the MiG-31, I assume that the locator has also been replaced.
      2. user1212
        user1212 25 December 2018 16: 52
        +3
        Quote: Gogia
        Where did you see axes flying 8 km? Whose rockets do they want to shoot? In the USSR, exercises were once intercepted against the backdrop of the land of the Kyrgyz Republic. And this is some kind of circus ... :(

        Yeah ... belay
        The training targets in the form of cruise missiles depicted enemy aircraft, which made real launches in the conditions of counteraction by means of electronic warfare
      3. Tarhan
        Tarhan 25 December 2018 17: 06
        +1
        And this is some kind of circus ...

        Not a circus, propaganda, spitting on the facts of his own account.

        During the exercise, pilots searched and destroyed cruise missiles at heights from 6 to 8 thousand meters and distances up to 40 km.

        Igor author from 6 to 8 tas.m this is for your comment. But on distances up to 40 km.
        This is the author to the author.

        The conditional target - a cruise missile - flew in the lower layers of the stratosphere at a speed of 800 km / h, destruction distance was about 100 km.

        And it is not clear whether 40, or 100.
        1. SETTGF
          SETTGF 25 December 2018 20: 54
          -2
          Tarkhan! Read carefully in Russian, there are considered 2 exercises ... Or learn the Russian language!
          1. Tarhan
            Tarhan 25 December 2018 21: 09
            +1
            2 exercises are considered there ... Or learn the Russian language!

            I agree on the first part, looked through, the article describes 2 exercises.

            In the second part, about language, you have pure snobbery with a mentor tone. And it’s too late to teach me. What we learned from 1958 to 1968, we have.

            This is how I think you spoke impressively on the morphology of my Russian language, so it may not be difficult for you to speak in detail on the syntax of my Russian language.

            We will consider.
          2. sergio_5252
            sergio_5252 25 December 2018 22: 28
            +1
            If we talk about the Russian language and its study, then writing "2-a" is not correct. First, the numbers from 0 to 9 are written in words. Secondly, the increment of the case ending (1st, 2nd) is added to the ordinal numbers (first, second). Quantitative (one, two) - no.
            Here is a spur. If the moderator does not delete.
            https://tim-yasinsky.ru/blog/10-bez-shutok/331-kak-pravilno-pisat-chislitelnye-shpargalka.html
  2. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 25 December 2018 15: 35
    +1
    Let it be hard in learning, but it will be easier in battle! And we are calmer to live on this sinful land! hi
  3. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 25 December 2018 15: 37
    -4
    This is the answer to the question whether we are capable of intercepting new upgrades of old US cruise missiles in our airspace, the so-called "stealth versions" of the same Tomahawk. The answer is unequivocal - we can! !! good
    1. Hypersound
      Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 13
      -1
      1800 launchers of S-400 and S-300, as well as hundreds of Torahs, Bukos and Carapace + sea air defense / missile defense say yes!
  4. Alexander X
    Alexander X 25 December 2018 15: 38
    +14
    Good! But here I have a question: as far as I understand, cruise missiles in which case will be launched en masse. Those. hundreds of pieces. And at the same time. How effective will protection against them be with the help of MIG 31? And how many pieces per departure in a similar attack can (theoretically) intercept MIG 31?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 25 December 2018 15: 46
      +1
      Quote: Alexander X
      How effective will protection against them be with the help of MIG 31?

      Well, in addition to the MiG-31, there are other air defense systems.
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 25 December 2018 19: 13
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Alexander X
        How effective will protection against them be with the help of MIG 31?

        Well, in addition to the MiG-31, there are other air defense systems.

        In Russia, whole areas do not have anti-aircraft cover. It is in these missile-hazardous areas that they should cover the Mig-31BM. S-300 and S-400 cover only the most important objects in view of their insufficient number. And the direction of the main strike at the strategic nuclear forces locations and the leading industrial enterprises of Siberia and the Urals will be through the north and northeast.
    2. turbris
      turbris 25 December 2018 15: 47
      +2
      All air defense systems in this direction, and not just the MiG-31, participate in the reflection of a massive missile-air strike.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 25 December 2018 15: 51
      -5
      Quote: Alexander X
      But here I have a question: as far as I understand, cruise missiles in which case will be launched en masse. Those. hundreds of pieces. And at the same time. How effective will protection against them be with the help of MIG 31? And how many pieces per departure in a similar attack can (theoretically) intercept MIG 31?

      Theoretically intercepting the Mig 31 is very difficult - the fastest pepelats of our time. 45 seconds and out of range. But meanwhile the numbness lands in three divisions
    4. venik
      venik 25 December 2018 15: 55
      0
      Quote: Alexander X
      And how many pieces per departure in a similar attack can (theoretically) intercept MIG 31?

      ========
      Up to 10 (one!) ... "Link" - (4 pcs.) - more than 30! bully
      1. 2329 Carpenter
        2329 Carpenter 25 December 2018 15: 59
        +3
        This is not enough. Hundreds of them will fly in the first salvo.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 25 December 2018 16: 04
          +2
          Quote: lottery 2329
          This is not enough. Hundreds of them will fly in the first salvo.

          A carpenter. The concentration of carriers of the first salvo is destroyed even faster. Therefore, all flights are agreed between the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Pentagon. hi
          1. 2329 Carpenter
            2329 Carpenter 25 December 2018 16: 08
            +4
            Mb
            If it will be single or underwater media?
            Or "concentration" will be formed for the convenience of its destruction?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 25 December 2018 16: 30
              -1
              Quote: Carpenter 2329
              If it will be single or underwater media?

              Vasya. This is an extra article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - an extended period. Or do you think that the border of the Russian Federation can cross with impunity?
              1. 2329 Carpenter
                2329 Carpenter 25 December 2018 23: 09
                0
                It was generally about carrier concentration.
                Carriers are just articles of the Criminal Code affect little. They don't seem to need to cross our borders.
                If the articles you mentioned will be applied to Tomahawks violating the state border, they will still need to be caught.
                Are there any guarantees? This is the most interesting to me.
            2. user1212
              user1212 25 December 2018 16: 56
              +2
              Quote: Carpenter 2329
              Or "concentration" will be formed for the convenience of its destruction?

              Why destroy it? There is a country - a source of aggression. Great, motionless target. Her and destroy am
              1. 2329 Carpenter
                2329 Carpenter 25 December 2018 23: 10
                0
                This is the most real solution to the problem.
              2. Metamisolatria
                Metamisolatria 26 December 2018 08: 14
                0
                It is necessary to clarify: a country is a territory with a population, a state is a bunch of initiative people who press buttons (IMHO). Bullet must be in the state. Or not bullets, but how do they reformat us. Or select the button. wassat
            3. bk316
              bk316 25 December 2018 19: 21
              +1
              If it will be single or underwater media?

              And then there will be not hundreds but dozens of missiles, and not quite at once.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 26 December 2018 10: 45
          0
          Quote: Carpenter 2329
          This is not enough. Hundreds of them will fly in the first salvo.

          Air defense consists not only of the MiG-31.
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    5. Gogia
      Gogia 25 December 2018 16: 00
      +6
      By the way, you forgot to say that they will fly above the ground with the envelope of the terrain ...
    6. Hypersound
      Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 15
      -1
      Quote: Alexander X
      But here I have a question: as far as I understand, cruise missiles in which case will be launched en masse. Those. hundreds of pieces. And at the same time.

      In the case of such a scenario, our nuclear missiles will immediately fly to the pndostan
    7. dvina71
      dvina71 25 December 2018 16: 48
      -1
      Quote: Alexander X
      But here I have a question: as far as I understand,

      And my question is always different. rather two .. A. Where from? Position area for hitting the territory of the Russian Federation with tomahawks pliz? IB: a time lag for launching these hundreds of missiles ...? I’m still wondering .. do you still eat to launch all these hundreds of Axes .., even though the otvetka is already flying .. and more than likely to Yuna in convection design?
    8. SOF
      SOF 25 December 2018 18: 48
      +2
      Quote: Alexander X
      And at the same time

      ... they do not launch "simultaneously" ... the interval between launches, in turn, of tomahawks is about 15 seconds ... that is, it will take 100 minutes for a conventional ship to launch 25 missiles ... more .. .. radar "Voronezh" SPRN, in the most "outdated" modification has a detection range of aerodynamic targets, including the CD, about 6000 km .... as far as is applicable to low-flying targets - a military secret .... but nevertheless , by the time the last rocket is released, a "warm" meeting will have already been organized for the whole flock, and a "gift" corresponding to its status will be sent to the ship that released it ....
      ... I understand somewhat, we, most importantly, do not flush out the concentration of tomahawk carriers in the zone of the proposed launch ..... for which there is a group of satellites of the same SPRN ...
      1. Alexander X
        Alexander X 25 December 2018 19: 02
        +2
        Quote: SOF
        ..they do not launch "simultaneously" ... the interval between launches, in turn, of tomahawks is about 15 seconds ... that is, it will take 100 minutes for a conventional ship to launch 25 missiles ..

        Well, it is logical to assume that they will launch not from one, but from many ships at the same time. Precisely so that we do not have these 25 minutes ...
        1. SOF
          SOF 25 December 2018 19: 23
          +1
          Quote: Alexander X
          Precisely so that we don’t have these 25 minutes

          .... therefore, the main thing is not to click wink
      2. bk316
        bk316 25 December 2018 19: 36
        +1
        Why are you arguing, axes are not suitable for delivering the first blow to the Russian Federation.

        They are very slow, the retaliatory strike will not just leave but will already reach the goal, and the axes will all fly ....
        And the positional area is really not visible.

        Here, Nata has one hope that the Russian Federation will not strike back with forces of the strategic nuclear forces, but will respond symmetrically.
        But for this, the Russian Federation must
        1. To be sure that the axes are guaranteed to have no SBN.
        2. Be confident in your air defense
        3. Have a president plush.

        But even in this case, nothing prevents to respond with nuclear-powered iskanders and calibers.
        That will raise the question of the continuation of the banquet by other means, because the first round will end in favor of the Russian Federation.

        In general, axes are not prepared for us ....
  5. Henderson
    Henderson 25 December 2018 15: 39
    -8
    It turns out 40km this is the distance from which the MiG-31 is able to detect stealth type F-35 or Su-57
    1. venik
      venik 25 December 2018 15: 57
      +4
      Quote: Henderson
      It turns out 40km this is the distance from which the MiG-31 is able to detect stealth type F-35 or Su-57

      =======
      It turns out that at a distance of 40 km - it intercepts "small" targets with "small EPR" - SURE !!! soldier
      1. Henderson
        Henderson 25 December 2018 15: 59
        +1
        What did I say?
      2. 2329 Carpenter
        2329 Carpenter 25 December 2018 16: 10
        +1
        From what distance can the target itself with "small RCS" intercept the 31st?
        1. Henderson
          Henderson 25 December 2018 16: 28
          +2
          Extremely from 180km
      3. Avior
        Avior 25 December 2018 20: 04
        +1
        then he kirdyk-beat after all.
    2. spektr9
      spektr9 25 December 2018 16: 09
      +3
      It turns out 40km this is the distance from which the MiG-31 is able to detect stealth type F-35 or Su-57

      Maybe I didn’t read it carefully, but where in the article is it mentioned that the KR was detected exclusively by the MIG-31 airborne radar?
      1. Henderson
        Henderson 25 December 2018 16: 20
        +1
        The Mig-31 has no missiles with ARGSN, respectively, it is obliged to highlight the target of its own radar.
    3. Hypersound
      Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 16
      -2
      Quote: Henderson
      It turns out 40km this is the distance from which the MiG-31 is able to detect stealth type F-35 or Su-57

      No. EPR F-35 - 0.3m2. EPR Stealth Variations Tomahawk and Caliber - 0.01
      1. Henderson
        Henderson 25 December 2018 16: 19
        0
        Where are the numbers from?
        1. Hypersound
          Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 20
          -2
          Rummaged the entire Internet and compared a variety of information
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 25 December 2018 16: 20
            -1
            It’s clear from the agency OBS
            1. Hypersound
              Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 23
              -1
              __That's your business
        2. bk316
          bk316 25 December 2018 19: 40
          0
          Where are the numbers from?

          And you think a little bit, look at the pictures of an ax and a penguin and decide for Congo less EPR.
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 26 December 2018 10: 29
            +2
            Determining EPR from photographs is an old entertainment for couch analysts
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 25 December 2018 15: 43
    +4
    During the exercise, the pilots searched and destroyed cruise missiles at altitudes from 6 to 8 thousand meters and at a distance of up to 40 km.
    The tasks were carried out under conditions of active counteraction from the air defenses of the conditional enemy, whose role was played by the C-300 air defense system located in the Sverdlovsk region.

    Well, the thirty-first is air defense special forces, but the Sverdlovsk citizens should not keep their feet on the IKO. There 10% of the production of the Russian Federation
    1. Sir1966
      Sir1966 26 December 2018 19: 42
      +1
      And in Perm, the production of aircraft engines, missiles, shells, gunpowder and the largest refinery. Therefore, the more frequent flights of the MIG-31 from the Sokol are pleasing. About 10 years ago I did not even know about their existence. And now, on almost every fishing trip above me, at least a couple take off or land. And this summer, for 2 hours, I watched the entry of about 20 of some DRY on our "Falcon". I can't tell by the silhouette. The fishing was spoiled - the crucian carp buried itself in the mud in fear, but the soul rejoiced in the power! ))
  7. Lesorub
    Lesorub 25 December 2018 15: 43
    +12
    MiG-31 destroyed cruise missiles at a distance of 40 km

    All this is commendable, but the question arises: most cruise missiles over enemy territory pass the distance to the target at extremely low altitudes (above the ground up to 20 meters), it seems necessary to work out the interception of precisely low-flying targets (these targets are considered the most dangerous).
    1. turbris
      turbris 25 December 2018 15: 51
      -6
      Well, you grabbed it over the edge, at an altitude of 20 m, only drones can fly, and then not everywhere, it all depends on the terrain. KR fly over rough terrain at an altitude of 100-300-500 m, and MiG - 31, the higher it climbs itself, the greater the distance it detects KR flying at these altitudes.
    2. puskarinkis
      puskarinkis 25 December 2018 16: 23
      0
      It is necessary to work out low-flying targets, or at least try to work them out from the air. But, as it seems, this is work for the ground air defense forces or a set of measures for reconnaissance, warning, guidance, etc.
  8. Topotun
    Topotun 25 December 2018 15: 51
    +2
    Interception of the Kyrgyz Republic at an altitude of 5000 m? So they seem to go regularly at an altitude of 100-300 m, depending on the terrain. Here's what you need to learn to intercept ...
    1. Rebus
      Rebus 25 December 2018 16: 06
      +1
      Apparently we are talking about the fact that the aircraft went at an altitude of 5000 m. Although the article 5000 m does not appear at all.
  9. Corn
    Corn 25 December 2018 15: 51
    0
    the destruction of cruise missiles at heights of 6 to 8 thousand meters
    first, cruise missiles will crawl along the terrain in the face of resistance.
    Secondly, what kind of Su30 or Su35 could not cope with this task better?
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 December 2018 15: 59
    +6
    This is not very clear.
    The standard American Tomahawk cruise missile flies at an altitude of 30-50 m above the surface of the earth. Well, 100 m if the terrain is complex.
    Neither in the upper atmosphere, nor in the stratosphere, she climbs.
    What rockets of the opponents were trained to shoot down MiGs?
    1. pru-pavel
      pru-pavel 25 December 2018 16: 08
      +5
      Why are you spoiling the holiday for people? There, in addition, a moment worked against the invincible s-300 of the probable enemy. Apparently he successfully outplayed the three hundred. How is also not clear. Really, a little secret on the Jewish curvature of the earth took cover
    2. user1212
      user1212 25 December 2018 17: 08
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      This is not very clear.

      And you there too. They did not train to shoot down any cruise missiles. What do you shoot at aviation exercises with real launches? Well, not the Palestinians are thrown into the air like targets. So ours do not come up with a bicycle, but use the old Kyrgyz Republic as educational goals
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 25 December 2018 17: 12
        +2
        We always try to make teachings close to real actions and performance characteristics. If the real CR flies at an altitude of 50 m, then in the exercises the target rocket will fly at an altitude of 50 m.
        In my opinion, everyone is trying so hard to do.
        1. user1212
          user1212 25 December 2018 17: 16
          +5
          Quote: voyaka uh
          We always try to make teachings close to real actions and performance characteristics. If the real CR flies at an altitude of 50 m, then in the exercises the target rocket will fly at an altitude of 50 m.
          In my opinion, everyone is trying so hard to do.

          I’ll try to explain again. Learning objectives in the form of CD depicted Aviation enemy. Fighters. F16, for example. They are just targets. According to the legend of the teachings "received an order to invade the airspace of Russia aircraft "Enemy""
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 25 December 2018 17: 17
            +3
            Now it is clear. Thank. good
          2. Avior
            Avior 25 December 2018 20: 06
            0
            if you read what is written, then it's generally some kind of nonsense
            an order was received to invade “enemy” aircraft into the airspace of Russia. To intercept, the link of the MiG-31BM supersonic interceptors of the air regiment deployed in the Perm Territory was raised, the report said.

            During the exercise, the pilots searched and destroyed cruise missiles at altitudes from 6 to 8 thousand meters and at a distance of up to 40 km.

            Tasks were carried out in the face of active opposition from air defense assets of the conditional enemy,

            did these enemy airplanes take air defense systems with them into the airspace of Russia?
            1. user1212
              user1212 25 December 2018 20: 40
              -2
              Quote: Avior
              did these enemy airplanes take air defense systems with them into the airspace of Russia?

              What's the problem? They will want and put up a division in Estonia. Ukraine is sleeping and sees the NATO air defense umbrella, Finland can buck at any time, and here you have the enemy air defense up to 200 km inland.
              1. Avior
                Avior 25 December 2018 21: 03
                +1
                well, if the conditions of the exercises are unrealistic, but limited only by imagination, then a saboteur or spy in command can be envisaged.
                What's the problem? They want and send ...
                1. user1212
                  user1212 25 December 2018 22: 08
                  -1
                  Quote: Avior
                  well, if the conditions of the exercises are unrealistic, but limited only by imagination

                  Yes, where so any intelligence services of the Russian Federation to your knowledge
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 25 December 2018 22: 09
                    +1
                    and what does the intelligence service have to do with fantasies?
                    They will want and put up a division in Estonia. ....
  11. Hypersound
    Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 02
    0
    Something so-so. Even if rockets and stealth. The same Su-35, it is claimed that it can detect cruise missiles at a distance of 90 km. Does Mig31 radar so worse?
  12. Yrec
    Yrec 25 December 2018 16: 06
    -2
    In the dashing 90s, it was possible to ride a MiG-31 with a pilot. The attraction was called "touching space". At an altitude of 30 km, the aircraft accelerated at maximum speed, turned off the engines and made a "slide" up to 40 km with the engines turned off. Then, with a decrease again to 30 km, he started the engines and drove to the base. I don't know if it's true - I haven't tried it myself.
    1. Hypersound
      Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 12
      +3
      I think 40km will not even pull the Mig31. 30 - yes, maybe a little more - 31, 32. But not 40
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 25 December 2018 21: 04
      +6
      Quote: Yrec
      At an altitude of 30 km, the aircraft accelerated at maximum speed, turned off the engines and made a "slide" up to 40 km with the engines turned off.

      It is interesting to look at the "tourists" who jumped in a "slide" on the MiG-31 40 km away. despite the fact that the altitude record of the MiG-31 is 20 600 m, and the dynamic altitude ceiling (this is achieved with the help of a "slide") of the flight of the MiG-31 is 30 000 m. About switching off the engines after performing the climb maneuvers (slides) generally keep quiet wassat . The dynamic ceiling is achieved precisely due to the fact that the kinetic energy stored on the slide is added to the engine thrust.
    3. NN52
      NN52 25 December 2018 23: 42
      +3
      Yrec (Yuri)
      Do not believe what you yourself have not tried))) ... Especially such a masterpiece of dope (probably from an Internet) ...
  13. Hypersound
    Hypersound 25 December 2018 16: 10
    -2
    Having made a flight to a given area, the crew completed the search and destruction of the air target, the parameters of which were obtained from air defense weapons. Conditional goal - a cruise missile - flew in the lower stratosphere with a speed of 800 km / h, the destruction distance was about 100 km.


    But this is already better, but as I understand it, this is with external target designation. Does Mig31 have its own radar?
  14. Tamek
    Tamek 25 December 2018 16: 17
    +1
    And what missiles shot down?
  15. Mih1974
    Mih1974 25 December 2018 16: 32
    -2
    I don't understand the claims and "smart" questions. Do you think that the Ministry of Defense is completely foolish to shoot down at such transcendental heights, or maybe "they know something" about what they are not supposed to know yet? repeat YES, and "against the background" of the earth, so 31 trained more than once, and in Syria they were generally beaten (according to the Ministry of Defense). So - "we believe and admire." By the way, as the smart say, "and if hundreds and thousands of RCs fly, then in response, they should not get tired of shooting them down, but MBRKs will fly to carry light and temlo to American homes."
    1. Topotun
      Topotun 25 December 2018 17: 06
      +4
      What are the claims? Simply, if an author writes on a topic, he should at least have a little idea of ​​the topic ... To knock down the CD is not a problem today. The problem is to detect it .... Maybe there is a question of intercepting a ballistic target (simulator of a ballistic warhead, for example)? Then yes, it's not an easy task. As for the "especially smart" - what to do if people do not just read the news while drinking beer .... Our people are not at all stupid. Yes, and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (or the USSR), many have passed. I have an idea of ​​the topic.
      1. user1212
        user1212 25 December 2018 17: 32
        +2
        Quote: Topotun
        As for the "especially smart" ones - what to do if people don't just read the news while drinking beer ....

        This is exactly what they are doing. How can such a number of those who read a 30-line article fail to understand its meaning? Written in black and white "According to the scenario of the exercise, an order was received to invade the airspace of Russia aircraft "Enemy""It was not the attack by cruise missiles that was imitated, but the invasion of aviation. The whole country is already drinking. laughing
    2. Henderson
      Henderson 26 December 2018 14: 43
      +1
      Quote: Mih1974
      and in Syria they were generally beaten up (according to the Ministry of Defense)

      there were no MiG-31s ​​in Syria
  16. Topotun
    Topotun 25 December 2018 17: 47
    0
    Quote: user1212
    Quote: Topotun
    As for the "especially smart" ones - what to do if people don't just read the news while drinking beer ....

    This is exactly what they are doing. How can such a number of those who read a 30-line article fail to understand its meaning? Written in black and white "According to the scenario of the exercise, an order was received to invade the airspace of Russia aircraft "Enemy""It was not the attack by cruise missiles that was imitated, but the invasion of aviation. The whole country is already drinking. laughing

    Yeah, it’s also indicated there:
    "During the exercise, the pilots searched for and destroyed cruise missiles at altitudes from 6 to 8 thousand meters and at a distance of up to 40 km."
    And enemy aircraft at an altitude of 6 thousand meters will not break through the defense of the Russian Federation. They are not suicides. Rather, according to the scenario, the aircraft of the "partners" struck the CD without entering the airspace of the Russian Federation ...
    However, I'm not sitting in the General Staff ....
    1. spec.78
      spec.78 25 December 2018 18: 17
      -2
      The MiG-31 just exists in order to bring down the carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic before the launch of the missiles. For this, and speed. There is a suspicion of aggression, quickly took off, quickly shot down and is quick back to reload. He launches the destruction of the Kyrgyz Republic after launch at such heights, since they have not yet managed to go on a low-altitude trajectory. But this is already work on the bugs.
    2. turbris
      turbris 25 December 2018 18: 47
      +1
      We are talking about the fact that the Mig-31, at an altitude of 8000 m, discovered and destroyed a missile system flying at low altitude, at a distance of 40 km. This is a very good result, given that ground-based radars and air defense systems can only detect such targets at a range of 35-36 km, and destroy even at a shorter range, given just the curvature factor of the earth.
      1. Demon_is_ada
        Demon_is_ada 26 December 2018 01: 29
        -1
        The only correct answer hi Only for the reader I’ll supplement it - I destroyed it at a distance of 40, but found it twice in the distance laughing and being at an altitude of 5-6 thousand, and from 15, the detection radius is greater ... They were created for catching CDs, this is not quite an interceptor, it flies like an ax straightforward and very fast ... Classically intercept, that is, visually identify and accompany to the command from the ground on it oh, how problematic ... Well, general education - EPR is usually the equivalent from the frontal projection of the aircraft, and there is also a "top view" where fu35 looks like a small Boeing lol
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 26 December 2018 04: 22
          +1
          Thank you, but the above "especially smart" gave me a Moscow-that I personally need to explain everything to them and if something is not clear to them, then "the teachings are not correct or the article is crooked" lol
      2. Henderson
        Henderson 26 December 2018 14: 45
        +1
        Quote: turbris
        that ground-based radars and air defense systems can only detect such targets at a range of 35-36 km, and destroy even at a shorter range

        Ground-based air defense systems could destroy such targets at a much greater range if they had missiles with ARGSN and external target designation. So far, alas, this is only implemented on the Patriots.
    3. user1212
      user1212 25 December 2018 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: Topotun
      And enemy planes at an altitude of 6 thousand meters will not break through the defense of the Russian Federation

      And on what will be? Below 5000 meters they say hello MANPADS
      1. Henderson
        Henderson 26 December 2018 14: 45
        0
        A lot of MANPADS can be deployed in Siberia?
  17. T-34
    T-34 25 December 2018 17: 57
    -2
    The exercises were planned, the behavior of a conditional opponent was unpredictable. And where did you see that the enemy will do everything as you want? Are you used to thinking that a cruise missile will go at an extremely low altitude, going around the contours of the terrain? Maybe you are right! But why bring down a cruise missile on conditions imposed by the enemy? The exercises just practiced striking at cruise missiles at the initial moment of launch of cruise missiles or at the stage of dispersal. Head need to think! Only the American frigate made a volley of 40 cruise missiles - oops, and all of them were already shot down by the MiG-31 when these same cruise missiles were on radar like a bastard! Once again I say - think with your head, and not about how to shoot down rockets over your territory! Homegrown strategists!
    1. turbris
      turbris 25 December 2018 18: 51
      +2
      Yes, of course, you are the very homegrown strategist, given that you can’t get closer to the frigate at least 100 km in order not to fall under the influence of its air defense systems.
    2. Avior
      Avior 25 December 2018 19: 01
      +1
      go nuts. change the smoke laughing
  18. Communist for the truth
    Communist for the truth 25 December 2018 18: 39
    +2
    The car is ahead of its time. A gift from SOVIET science to the PEACEFUL heaven of our country.
  19. Avior
    Avior 25 December 2018 19: 00
    -1
    even at an altitude it turns out to shoot down only up to 40 km, which means that real Tomahawks at a height of their use of 30-50 m can be shot down only by accident.
  20. K-50
    K-50 25 December 2018 19: 14
    0
    two weeks earlier, the MiG-31 crew had intercepted a cruise missile at an altitude of more than 15 thousand meters.

    Probably for a cruise missile this is still an atypical flight altitude. They seem to be supposed to hide in the folds of the terrain breaking through? what
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 25 December 2018 20: 03
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      Probably for a cruise missile this is still an atypical flight altitude.

      It is what it is. Only in this case, the CD "portrayed" the enemy's planes with all that it implies. yes And here again they arranged a tantrum with hysteria. laughing
  21. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 25 December 2018 19: 33
    +1
    During the exercise, the pilots searched and destroyed cruise missiles at altitudes from 6 to 8 thousand meters and at a distance of up to 40 km.
    Recall, two weeks earlier, the crew of the MiG-31 intercepted a cruise missile at an altitude of more than 15 thousand meters.
    at such heights of the Kyrgyz Republic easy prey, and you try it on the background of the earth at an altitude of 50 meters, and what else to do with them if they fly a couple of thousand, and the states will use them in case of conflict.
    1. K-50
      K-50 25 December 2018 20: 08
      0
      Quote: _Ugene_
      at such heights of the Kyrgyz Republic easy prey, and you try it on the background of the earth at an altitude of 50 meters, and what else to do with them if they fly a couple of thousand, and the states will use them in case of conflict.

      And in response, ICBMs will fly with all the ensuing, or rather falling BBs. hi
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 25 December 2018 21: 24
        0
        And in response, ICBMs will fly with all the ensuing, or rather falling BBs.
        and in the opposite direction the same and in the same quantities, and what's the point then to work out the interception of a single missile defense at an altitude of 15 km? Only if your own does not fly there and you need to brake it urgently
        1. K-50
          K-50 25 December 2018 21: 26
          0
          Quote: _Ugene_
          and in the opposite direction the same, and what's the point then to work out the interception of a single missile defense at an altitude of 15 km?

          They just trained to minimize the possible damage from this weapon. hi
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 25 December 2018 21: 30
            0
            in the event of a real conflict, the interception of individual missiles will have no effect, but against the thousands that are walking at low altitude, there is no method against scrap, so these trainings do not make much sense, well, if only the forum users are happy
            1. K-50
              K-50 25 December 2018 21: 38
              -1
              You seem like a great strategist and better than academicians of military sciences and others know what needs to be done for the country's armed forces.
              Taking off my hat. hi yes
              It's sarcasm.
              And then you will take it at face value.
              1. _Ugene_
                _Ugene_ 25 December 2018 21: 41
                -1
                You seem like a great strategist and better than academicians of military sciences and others know what needs to be done for the country's armed forces.

                unfortunately, this is the most common type of answer when there is nothing to object to the substance of the issue under discussion, even with sarcasm
                1. Demon_is_ada
                  Demon_is_ada 26 December 2018 09: 47
                  +1
                  And you know, K50 is right ... a group target is very easily detected laughing , everything is elementary there - the EPR of a single object is multiplied by the number and the detection range increases significantly, the over-the-horizon is easily caught, and even in the projection "from above" ... But single targets are a very big gem ... problems bully By the way, today there is an article about how our dearly beloved Jewish comrades bombed around Syria. That's where the tactics are about the same, some of them launch CRs with radar suppression systems, and another part casts iron with wings under the barrier from the KR and, as a result, the KR sees and knocks down, and the iron flies out of the bucket ... Tactics are not new, but there’s some getting used to it who can not and most likely there is no tactic of using anti-aircraft missile systems against this.
                  1. _Ugene_
                    _Ugene_ 26 December 2018 11: 32
                    0
                    And you know, K50 is right ... a group target is very easily detected
                    And why should they go in one crowd? Firstly, the main carriers of axes are marine, i.e. can be launched from different water areas at the same time, secondly, they do not spit out all at once and can be distributed in the air. Not interesting exercises, even at a low altitude, they intercepted, although everyone knows that with a simultaneous attack of several thousand axes from different directions, most of them will reach the target, but it will be a nuclear war
                    1. Demon_is_ada
                      Demon_is_ada 26 December 2018 14: 06
                      0
                      So you yourself answered why in the exercise you intercepted single goals, and most importantly - discovered hi And almost all of our anti-ship missiles, even of a shaggy year, will fly to sea carriers faster than they launch at least half of the BC, provided that the first missile is detected.
                      Quote: _Ugene_
                      Not interesting exercises, even at low altitude, intercepted,

                      There, there is my comment above, KR flew as it should, just the author has no idea what he is writing about ... well, humanities cho laughing soldier
                      1. _Ugene_
                        _Ugene_ 26 December 2018 14: 16
                        +1
                        And almost all of our anti-ship missiles, even of a shaggy year, will fly to sea carriers faster than they launch at least half of the BC, provided that the first missile is detected.
                        Given the flight range of the axes 1600 - 2500 km, you can easily not enter the affected area of ​​our anti-ship missiles, there is a range of a couple of hundred km., And it’s difficult to approach the carriers of the axes with modern ship’s air defense, but if it’s unrealistic in the AUG
                      2. Demon_is_ada
                        Demon_is_ada 26 December 2018 14: 23
                        0
                        The factor of time, or surprise, plays a very significant role in hostilities. In 3 hours of flight time, much can be done. And over-the-horizon detection, this will not give surprise to the enemy, but at short range it does not work crying , there are in fact subblind zones. And for such remote objects there are submarines with torpedoes bully
                      3. _Ugene_
                        _Ugene_ 26 December 2018 14: 29
                        +1
                        given the deplorable state of our ocean fleet, it’s almost impossible to prevent such an attack, the ratio of forces in the open ocean is too unequal
                      4. Demon_is_ada
                        Demon_is_ada 26 December 2018 14: 35
                        0
                        I agree, therefore, the last time submarines and small tonnos have been riveting, and I think that we will see soon the analog of Kuzma ...
    2. Hey
      Hey 25 December 2018 20: 09
      -1
      and you try it on the background of the earth at an altitude of 50 meters, and what else to do with them if a couple of thousand of them fly,

      Probably remember 1941, around important objects, to heights of up to 100 m. With the help of barrage balloons, we will raise specialized nets, with cells slightly less than the wingspan of the "ax".
      1. Avior
        Avior 25 December 2018 21: 05
        0
        this will not help now.
        and the wings of the ax are small, this is not a plane, and there’s no point in catching near the object.
        and a slide can do.
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 26 December 2018 04: 26
      -2
      I have already written above - I don't care how many breaks out of the "several thousand tamogavki" because the only answer to such a raid is not at all "Thousand Moment-31", but just a full-fledged volley from EVERYTHING that the Strategic Missile Forces have belay negative ... And this means that this is already an unambiguously retaliatory raid of the Americans, so a thousand or 10 amogavks will break through - it will no longer matter, it is only an American general stoned to madness who may think that Russia should "express regrets" for such a thing, and then in writing and not to him a megaton nuclear block on your head.
  22. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 25 December 2018 19: 35
    -1
    Quote: traper
    Do you seriously think that the "tomahawk" is 2500 km. able to sneak 15m. above the ground.?


    Interesting topic. At 15 meters, "axes" and other oddities overcome the air defense zone. And, so they fly at a decent altitude, the higher they fly, the higher their speed and further their distance traveled. The advantage of the air defense system, which will put its antenna at the maximum height, because "Line-of-sight range" for onboard radars has not been canceled.
    1. Avior
      Avior 25 December 2018 21: 10
      0
      the question is, from what distance the radar station sees them.
      if up to 40 km is not air defense, but imitation
  23. GibSoN
    GibSoN 25 December 2018 21: 51
    -2
    Lord! Let's be realistic. Do you really think that someone will let us discuss some even approximately real teachings or tests? Everything that in one way or another lends itself to discussion in the media is either a deliberate throw-in, or partially, but far from connected information for discussion. Do not be so naive.
  24. Avior
    Avior 25 December 2018 22: 46
    0
    and this is the funniest thing about these teachings
    C-300 repelled a massive strike MiG-31BM

    MiG-31BM fighter-interceptors, which simulated a massive missile strike, were used as a conditional enemy. The S-300 complexes managed to capture the targets, then carry out their tracking, and then "destroy" the targets with electronic launches.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2018/12/25/s3002/
    now understand how you want, who is cooler laughing
  25. DPN
    DPN 25 December 2018 22: 58
    0
    Well done Permians, it was not in vain that they studied. So we can sleep peacefully. Thanks you.
  26. Boomandroid
    Boomandroid 26 December 2018 15: 33
    -1
    Sometimes it amazes me, everyone who knows our sofa generals, who everybody knows and always criticizes the RF Ministry of Defense, the guys there are probably better off without you experts know how to do it better!
  27. kuz363
    kuz363 27 December 2018 08: 26
    -1
    Actually, the Americans have air-to-air missiles with a range of 100 km.