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Shoigu announced the readiness of the military infrastructure in the Kuriles

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In the Kuril Islands, construction of new facilities for military personnel is being completed, News with reference to the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu.


Shoigu announced the readiness of the military infrastructure in the Kuriles


According to Shoigu, who spoke at a meeting of the public council at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the military is practically settling in new buildings and structures erected on the islands of the Kuril chain.

Recall that last week the main secretary of the Japanese government, Yoshihide Suga, said that Tokyo is protesting the construction of hostels for Russian military personnel and their families on the islands of Iturup and Kunashir.

The Minister also spoke about the state of affairs with the removal of garbage from the Arctic islands.

He noted that today 9 thousand square meters remain uncleared. km of Arctic areas where military facilities are located.

This work will be fully completed next year. We consider it extremely important
Shoigu said, adding that the state in which the military found the Arctic left "an indelible impression."

The publication reminds that in December Russia, Finland and Norway signed the grand contract of the project “Bioremediation of the Arctic Coast” as part of the implementation of the program for the preservation of the Arctic ecosystem Kolarctic 2014-2020.

In addition, in the spring of this year, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on the creation of a reserve on the Novosibirsk Islands archipelago in order to preserve unique island ecosystems.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. IGU
    IGU 25 December 2018 09: 10
    +22
    The more we build, the less likely that the transfer will take place. It’s somehow calmer from such news.
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 December 2018 09: 14
      +7
      It is necessary to build as much as necessary, and the population there must be lured.
      1. seti
        seti 25 December 2018 09: 38
        +24
        If the islands will be permanent and the main cheap connection, including air / ferry, it is unlikely that their population will decline. Especially if the extracted marine resources are processed there. We need constant employment and an affordable connection with the mainland.
        The bridge to Sakhalin is railway and automobile from the same series. I do not care how much it will cost - this is a constant, weather-independent communication between people. She screams - we are with you, you are not abandoned.
        1. faiver
          faiver 25 December 2018 10: 38
          -2
          Do you forgive where you live?
        2. irazum
          irazum 25 December 2018 11: 37
          +1
          Even if everything is so, what are you writing about, the question is: you, personally, will you go there?
          Can I answer for you?
      2. faiver
        faiver 25 December 2018 10: 36
        -4
        Why lure people there? go Victor, flag in your hands hi
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 25 December 2018 11: 28
          -4
          I agree, why lure. It’s necessary to lure to Maskva.
      3. jovanni
        jovanni 25 December 2018 11: 45
        0
        This couple ... Judging by the design of the barracks, we’ll be luring maydauns there, or what? belay
        1. irazum
          irazum 25 December 2018 12: 00
          -3
          So with the "scoop" it was they who made up a large part of the population there.
          1. faiver
            faiver 25 December 2018 12: 20
            +1
            came for a "long ruble" and the difference in salary was several times, and plane or helicopter tickets were affordable ...
            1. irazum
              irazum 25 December 2018 12: 42
              -2
              That's all clear: the "long ruble" has ended, and the NORTH has ended ...
              1. faiver
                faiver 25 December 2018 12: 47
                0
                quite right, I live in the north and therefore I know what I'm talking about ....
                1. irazum
                  irazum 25 December 2018 12: 48
                  0
                  What is the question?
          2. turbris
            turbris 25 December 2018 16: 01
            +4
            "Scoop" is that, the time at which I lived, raised children, what right do you have to call this time like this? You have read liberal resources and gathered fashionable names from there, but do you have your own head?
            1. irazum
              irazum 25 December 2018 17: 24
              0
              I have the right, because I also lived at the same time and in the same country, and I have the right to reason no less than yours about this time. And the presence of a head ... This is no longer for me, for Sir Charles Darwin. I wish you happiness!
              1. turbris
                turbris 26 December 2018 12: 06
                +2
                In your opinion, no one has the right to speak about the history of Russia (not Raska), and if you do not respect the country in which you live, so who keeps you here, move closer to Sir Darwin, especially since he was not very wrong in the theory of evolution - judging according to you.
                1. irazum
                  irazum 26 December 2018 13: 10
                  -1
                  Thank! But, in the right to my judgment, I will remain with my own. And I know the history of the Russian state no worse than you. Thank!
              2. Vlad5307
                Vlad5307 26 December 2018 21: 50
                0
                if according to Darwin, then not far you have gone from the ancestors of man. lol
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 December 2018 09: 15
      +9
      Quote: IGU
      The more we build, the less likely that the transfer will take place. It’s somehow calmer from such news.

      And no one is going to transfer the islands to the yupps. They were given two conditions: demilitarize themselves and demilitarize the country, that is, disarm themselves and expel foreign warriors (minke whales) from the country, as the Japanese think. hi
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 09: 23
        +15
        Quote: 79807420129
        And no one is going to transfer the islands to the yupps.

        We have so many all-enforcers who every year expect the islands to be given to the Japanese. I even feel sorry for them sometimes miserable
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 25 December 2018 09: 45
          +4
          You do not need to feel sorry for them - they play on a strange side.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 09: 50
            +4
            Quote: Tank jacket

            You do not need to feel sorry for them - they play on a strange side.

            Judging by how many advantages they put for komenty, it hurts a lot of people playing on the wrong side.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 25 December 2018 09: 54
              -1
              But we are in vests wink
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 09: 56
                +1
                Quote: Tank jacket
                But we are in vests

                And they are in shorts! Where to put emphasis in this word, decide for yourself
              2. for
                for 26 December 2018 22: 34
                -1
                Quote: Tank jacket

                But we are in vests

                Chinese tailoring.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 December 2018 15: 57
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        And no one is going to transfer the islands to the yupps. They were given two conditions: demilitarize themselves and demilitarize the country, that is, disarm themselves and expel foreign warriors (minke whales) from the country, as the Japanese think.

        AND RECOGNIZE THE RESULTS OF WWII. hi
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 25 December 2018 16: 15
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          AND RECOGNIZE THE RESULTS OF WWII.

          Hello Andrey, hi Namely, the first prime minister of Japan who fulfills these conditions can, with a clear conscience, make hara-kiri for himself, for then others will blow his head off in Japan. he’s going, then he will give the hara-kiri to those who have already given in Russia, and Putin is far from fool as some people think, in principle, Andrei is even in a better position, the Japanese need this product and negotiations can be conducted endlessly. hi
          1. GUSAR
            GUSAR 25 December 2018 19: 45
            -1
            And now Japan is apparently an ally. Still, explain to me why in general with them to conduct any negotiations on the islands?
    3. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 25 December 2018 09: 19
      +4
      Let the Japanese be dissatisfied with the American bases on their territory, and not look at someone else's. Their country is still under occupation since the Second World War and there are no protests against the Americans, these bases will be removed and how much territory will be freed. No honor and pride from the samurai left.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 25 December 2018 09: 30
        +3
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Let the Japanese be dissatisfied with American bases on their territory, and not look at someone else's

        This is extra evidence of who really needs the South Kuril Islands. yes
      2. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 25 December 2018 09: 46
        0
        And there are no more samurai extinct. Remained office plankton, very obedient.
    4. Consultant
      Consultant 25 December 2018 09: 51
      0
      Quote: IGU
      The more we build, the less likely that the transfer will take place

      Oh well ... Sylvester will come with the company, and they will tell you that they are building everything with a specialist, so that it would be better to transfer comfortable living to yourself for a hedgehog and then provide laughing
      1. Leshy1975
        Leshy1975 25 December 2018 12: 17
        -3
        Quote: Consultant
        Quote: IGU
        The more we build, the less likely that the transfer will take place

        Oh well ... Sylvester will come with the company, and they will tell you that they are building everything with a specialist, so that it would be better to transfer comfortable living to yourself for a hedgehog and then provide laughing

        No, it’s just not Iturup and Kunashir (where they are building) who are going to transmit, but Shikotan and Habomai (according to the 1956 declaration) that’s right, passing by so you wouldn’t write nonsense.
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 25 December 2018 20: 08
          -5
          Quote: Leshy1975
          It is so, passing by

          So come already ... so, by yes

          Quote: Leshy1975
          what would you not write nonsense

          Watch yourself ... "whatever" negative
    5. Olgovich
      Olgovich 25 December 2018 10: 39
      +1
      Quote: IGU
      The more we build, the less likely that the transfer will take place.

      But color houses are somehow embarrassed request
    6. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 25 December 2018 12: 11
      -4
      Quote: IGU
      The more we build, the less likely that the transfer will take place. It’s somehow calmer from such news.

      It’s calmer if you don’t dig into the depths. This is not about the Iturup and Kunashir islands, where infrastructure is being built.
      (source znak.com)
      "Instead of signing a peace treaty, the USSR and Japan adopted the Moscow Declaration on October 19, 1956. It ended the state of war and restored diplomatic relations between the two countries, and also fixed the Soviet Union's intention to transfer the smallest of the four islands to Japan - Shikotan and the ridge of Habomai (Habomai is a few small islands).
      In 2004, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia recognizes the 1956 declaration and is ready to negotiate on its basis. Recall, this is a declaration providing for the transfer of two small islands of Japan - Shikotana and Habomai. President Vladimir Putin supported this statement. "
      This story is not over yet. Sooner to calm down, keep your ear sharp.
      interview Lavrov KP 17.12.18:
      "Lavrov on the situation with the Kuriles: It was confirmed in Singapore that we agreed to conclude a peace treaty on the basis of the Soviet-Japanese agreement of 1956. According to that agreement, the Soviet Union is not in the order of return, but as a gesture of goodwill, in order to take into account the interests of the good-neighborly Japanese of the people, was ready to hand over the Habomai ridge and the island of Shikotan.Our president has repeatedly explained that this obligation is not of a direct kind - it remains to be discussed how to transmit, when, in what quality. It was 1956, after that, in the 60s, Japan entered into a security treaty with the United States on an American military presence on the Japanese islands. By the way, the conclusion of a peace treaty would mean Japan’s recognition of the results of World War II. So far, our colleagues are not talking about it. Japan's recognition of the outcome of World War II is an integral first step in this conversation. "
      If Japan will agree to the recognition of the results of the Second World War, will we pass it on? By the way, can anyone explain (there is no time to understand this issue himself), but what does Japan generally lose by recognizing these results? So much time has passed, but somehow we coexisted and economically cooperated without it. It is unlikely that there is something significant for her. As I understand it, the most unpleasant thing for Japan is that it renounces its claims to Iturup and Kunashir, having received part of the Kuril ridge. Japan's interest is understandable. The authorities of the Russian Federation who are "pulling by the tongue" all the time? Well, they wanted and wanted, time has passed (Japan is to blame for not signing it then), that's it, we don't want to anymore. Such a position would add more calmness.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 25 December 2018 19: 36
        -1
        laughing laughing laughing Wow, a whole treatise, and all for the sake of it:
        Quote: Leshy1975
        (I myself have no time to understand this issue)

        Oh, trouble-trouble ... wassat
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 25 December 2018 19: 48
          +2
          Quote: Paranoid50
          laughing laughing laughing Wow, a whole treatise, and all for the sake of it:
          Quote: Leshy1975
          (I myself have no time to understand this issue)

          Oh, trouble-trouble ... wassat

          No, I just hoped that there are people here who are professionally versed in this matter. But obviously, your post is everything you could count on. The majority of commentators are not even aware of which islands, according to the 1956 declaration, can transmit. And the fact that Kunashir and Iturup are confused with Shokotan and Habomai is like a misfortune. And not that I can not well understand all issues.
          1. jonht
            jonht 26 December 2018 04: 25
            -1
            Well then, please be kind to the whole text of the Declaration of 1956, especially the paragraph on the absence of bases of foreign states on their territory.
            Therefore, our leadership refers to the observance of this particular Declaration, and not part of it, but full compliance. That's just the invaders from the Japanese islands themselves will not move out, and therefore this declaration is nothing more than a carrot in front of the nose .....
  2. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 25 December 2018 09: 11
    -3
    Even the narrow-eyed ones were not asked what to build and what not? It’s necessary. But Shoigu was in a hurry about his impressions, Shoigu, adding that the state in which the military found the Arctic left an “indelible impression.” As if he didn’t even know from the Moon fell as we left, threw everything there, according to the instructions of this authority.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 December 2018 09: 17
      +3
      When they "skied" from the Kuriles, they also threw everything and everyone ....
      1. Sarmat Sanych
        Sarmat Sanych 25 December 2018 09: 40
        +7
        Friends, who actually read the terms of the agreement from the 56th year, ABSOLUTELY understands that Japan will never fulfill them. Even if he wants to and EVEN if their owners, the Americans will not particularly interfere. It's not only about the absence of foreign bases in Japan and, in fact, its own demilitarization - it's still more fun. Khrushchev, though scolded (there is a reason), but this "hedgehog in his pants" he threw a noble)).
        And here is the approximate meaning of swinging "samurai" in the Kuriles:
        http://www.iarex.ru/articles/61988.html
  3. den3080
    den3080 25 December 2018 09: 15
    +1
    What is a grand contract? smile
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 25 December 2018 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: den3080
      What is a grand contract? smile

      The reward for the construction estimates, built, compensated grand expenses ...... so it seems like that .... smile
  4. irazum
    irazum 25 December 2018 09: 33
    -5
    All the survivors should be sent to clean up the garbage in the Arctic by organizing a subbotnik, so beloved by them, with red flags and portraits of Ilyich, under the slogan: “We shit ourselves, we will clean it ourselves!”. Those who refused to participate in the "subbotnik" members of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and their sympathizers, should be considered opportunists!
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 25 December 2018 09: 58
      +4
      Quote: irazum
      "subbotnik", with red flags

      For a long time I thought? Under the communists, everything was spinning in the North, thousands of people lived there, there was not enough housing, I am personally a witness to that, but what now? In Vorkuta, Inta, everything is crushed, destroyed, many houses, industrial enterprises "sparkle" with empty eye sockets of windows and sunken roofs.

      Built two unfortunate barracks and reported?

      Yes, under the USSR, the Japanese did not even dare to stutter about some kind of return, they knew that they would simply be sent in three letters. This, so to speak, is about the international authority of today's Russian authorities. Only the lazy do not kick, soon, some Samoa will make territorial claims ...
      1. irazum
        irazum 25 December 2018 10: 43
        +1
        And I don't even need to "think". Tractors drowned in the tundra, thousands of kilometers of pipes, cables, other scrap metal, etc. I, my dear VIZAVI, walked this tundra and taiga with my legs. And, if about something, I undertake to argue, then I am responsible for EVERY word.
        1. Mar.Tirah
          Mar.Tirah 25 December 2018 14: 38
          +2
          Quote: irazum
          And I don't even need to "think".

          And it’s necessary! And here are the Communists and the Communist Party, if your favorite party of Yeltsin and the liberals of Gorbaty in the Kremlin were ruining the army and navy?
          1. jonht
            jonht 26 December 2018 04: 31
            0
            But I’ll disappoint you, and Yeltsin and Gorbachev and the unmeasured list of people who participated in the collapse were precisely the Communists. All of them were functionaries of the CPSU at various levels.
            1. Mar.Tirah
              Mar.Tirah 26 December 2018 06: 31
              +1
              Quote: jonht
              were precisely the Communists.

              They were never Communists with a capital letter, degenerates and opportunists for advancement in power, yes, but not communists, but someone and an outright traitor to my homeland, the USSR.
              1. jonht
                jonht 26 December 2018 07: 21
                0
                In fact, it does not matter who and by whom they consider. All political systems go from generation to extinction, and this is exactly what happened with the CPSU, the same process will take place as the United People’s Democratic Party, since they are in power and all the husks will join them, and in fact they are already there.
      2. irazum
        irazum 25 December 2018 10: 48
        0
        And another question: What was "spinning" there? What is really needed: spinning now, and no one wants to spend a lot of money on the "husk".
      3. irazum
        irazum 25 December 2018 11: 34
        0
        Well, everything was restored in Int, Vorkuta, Amderma, Pevek, etc. Will you go live there? ME NOT.
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 25 December 2018 12: 32
          +3
          Quote: irazum
          Well, everything was restored in Int, Vorkuta, Amderma, Pevek, etc. Will you go live there? ME NOT.

          Of course you are not. There, for a long time, not life, but survival. By the way, thank you for this not at all to the Communists, it was some who tried after them. You go to Moscow right away (unless of course it's not there already). In Moscow, of course, there are more money and prospects, but what is not clear, everyone understands this. And the North, the Far East, where the Russians leave, others will come over time. Well, yes, in your age, there will be enough prosperity in Moscow. Live, rejoice!
          1. irazum
            irazum 25 December 2018 12: 40
            -1
            Why are you "poking"? Parenting problems? And don't tell me about the NORTH, I earnestly ask you.
            1. Leshy1975
              Leshy1975 25 December 2018 13: 09
              +3
              Quote: irazum
              Why are you "poking"? Parenting problems? And don't tell me about the NORTH, I earnestly ask you.

              With upbringing, everything is fine. And patriotism (not the same, of course, when love for the Motherland = love for power) was attached to such education. Therefore, I write that when I hear conversations, and we don't really need it, I immediately remember this: "Siberia should not belong to Russia alone." And yet, creating unequal living conditions in the country and regions (in the USSR this was solved by monetary, pension, sanatorium motivation, if the North) prerequisites are created for the depopulation of territories beyond the Urals and in the North, which further leads to the emergence of separatism and the collapse of the state. Or how do you propose to keep the territory inhabited mainly by indigenous people (who are not very torn to Moscow, their roots are there, in the North), it is mainly the Russian population that leaves, and not the indigenous! Not strong and necessary? Will you steer everyone from Moscow ?! And about the NORTH, the North needs to be "sick". The places there are as harsh as they are beautiful. No, you are not sick, therefore you cannot really love the North. Could, so about the North: "but on the" husk "no one wants to spend a lot of money" would not write. The North is beautiful, but not only with nature, but also with a special atmosphere in small groups, in villages. And this is not a shell at all, but a question of human destinies and a question of the country's integrity. Maybe you walked in the north, but just overlooked everything.
              1. irazum
                irazum 25 December 2018 14: 46
                +1
                I worked in the "North", and even now (Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug). I know how people live there, not by hearsay. They live and work there in order to educate their children somewhere, just not in the North, and to buy them an apartment (maximum latitude - Tyumen), and so that they (children) would never have the thought: "to live and die in the arctic".
      4. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 25 December 2018 12: 30
        +2
        The Japanese constantly reminded about this problem, and this was written in Soviet newspapers.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 25 December 2018 19: 52
          +1
          Quote: Sergej1972
          The Japanese constantly reminded about this problem, and this was written in Soviet newspapers.

          Not only in the newspapers. I remember very well both "Novosti" and "International Panorama", where from time to time in reports from Japan there were shots of entire "samurai" demonstrations demanding the return of territories. They still demand something ... yes Well, they’d rather have the shogunate reborn. laughing
    2. stalki
      stalki 25 December 2018 13: 34
      +2
      All survivors should be sent to clean up garbage in the Arctic by organizing a “subbotnik” so beloved by them.
      Strongly invented. Yourself? Red is annoying, right? The main thing is not order in the country, the main thing is to find the perpetrators of the bulldozer, well then everything is clear.
  5. 3vs
    3vs 25 December 2018 09: 40
    +4
    Something in the photo of the house is painted in unpatriotic colors ... what
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 December 2018 09: 51
      +1
      Quote: 3vs
      Something in the photo of the house is painted in unpatriotic colors ..

      Troll Ukraine
      1. 3vs
        3vs 25 December 2018 10: 14
        0
        Her, darling! laughing

        Only this, here is the trolling of insanity decrees, I think the 80 level! fellow
    2. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 25 December 2018 09: 59
      +3
      Quote: 3vs
      Something in the photo of the house is painted in unpatriotic colors ... what

      What paint was in that and painted request laughing
    3. bistrov.
      bistrov. 25 December 2018 10: 10
      0
      Quote: 3vs
      unpatriotic colors

      The foreman, probably, of the "Sumerian nation" was caught ...
  6. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 25 December 2018 09: 43
    +1
    The Kuril Islands will always be ours!
    1. 3vs
      3vs 25 December 2018 10: 16
      -3
      Judging by the colors of the house painting, "ours" sounds suspicious! smile
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 December 2018 10: 01
    +5
    Recall last week the main Japanese Government Secretary Yoshihide Suga stated that Tokyo protests the construction of dormitories for Russian troops and their families on the islands of Iturup and Kunashir.

    ... and hara-kiri, weak? ... laughing
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 25 December 2018 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... and hara-kiri, weak? ...

      you can even give a knife if this is not his secretary .... smile
  8. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 25 December 2018 10: 02
    +2
    Another fact, in spite of those who yell "Putin has leaked the Kuril Islands!" wassat
    They are not deploying military infrastructure in order to dismantle it later and transfer it to someone.

    If Japan abandons the American protectorate, perhaps something will change in this regard. But for now, the abandonment of the status of the inland sea for the Sea of ​​Okhotsk in exchange for the obligatory deployment of American military infrastructure on Iturup and Kunashir, if transferred to Japan now, is a rare idiocy that the country's leadership is not capable of.
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 25 December 2018 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: ButchCassidy
      not in order to dismantle it later and transfer it to someone.

      As much as they can. For example, in the SGVG, other Hungary and Poland, when comfortable towns built with our money, by the way, were simply abandoned without any compensation, and the troops, often, were simply unloaded into the "open field", and some received Nobel awards.
      1. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 25 December 2018 10: 34
        0
        Quote: bistrov.
        As much as they can. For example, in the SGVG, other Hungary and Poland, when comfortable towns built with our money, by the way, were simply abandoned without any compensation, and the troops, often, were simply unloaded into the "open field", and some received Nobel awards.

        In order for this to happen, there must be fools like Gorbachev in the leadership. I sincerely hope and believe that this time is gone forever. I think that nobody will step on the rake a second time.
      2. Conductor
        Conductor 25 December 2018 12: 03
        +1
        That was not our territory
  9. Chicha squad
    Chicha squad 25 December 2018 10: 32
    -2
    The barracks are black. Well, it's too much.
  10. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 25 December 2018 10: 53
    +1
    For every such attack by the Japanese side, Russia should at the official level remind that the Kuril Islands are the territory of Russia and we are doing here what we want and still constantly reminding that Japan has hostels for American soldiers on its territory.

    The infrastructure of the Kuril Islands should be further developed and more news published about it, so that the last Japanese Natsik realized that they had lost the Second World War and were lucky that Russia did not impose reparations on them.

    In the Kuril Islands, it is necessary to build not only dormitories, but also civilian ports and airports. It is necessary to make sure that the Kuril Islands develop at the expense of business, and the business there is something to build on, this is catch and processing of both fish and crab, and this direction also has export potential.

    The Kuril Islands must and can live richly, you just have to organize everything in your mind. So that the fishermen could easily catch fish and they could sell their catch both abroad and to Russia, the local budget received taxes and developed the infrastructure for this money.

    And Japan will not go anywhere they need both our resources and our transportation capabilities, so they need to negotiate with us, and not we to beg them to sign a peace treaty, which in fact is just a formality and still will not cost more than a piece of paper on which it will signed up.
    1. faiver
      faiver 25 December 2018 11: 01
      -1
      there are no prospects for business there, everything is not profitable, except for the military and scientists in the Kuriles, you are not sure to do anything to anyone ....
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 21
        +2
        Do you know how many ribes and crab eat Jaapontsi and how many costs 1 Tuna is good in Jaaponia? Only one export to Jaaponia can feed 1 republic in Russia.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 23
          0
          And I can beat ribaks with high wages and interesting salaries.
          1. faiver
            faiver 25 December 2018 11: 30
            0
            And I can beat ribaks with high wages and interesting salaries.
            - go
            1. Wolf
              Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 58
              +1
              Under salary conditions, as never before, if I think at the level of Yaponske, I’ll think about it.
              1. Wolf
                Wolf 25 December 2018 12: 01
                +1
                Fire what do you think, how many can get the crayons in the month of the catch season? :) Maybe beat bi bi flew there to work? :)
              2. faiver
                faiver 25 December 2018 12: 14
                0
                so in order to earn a Japanese salary you need to live in Japan, and not on the Russian Kuriles ...
                1. Wolf
                  Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 15
                  -1
                  It’s not necessary, the Japanese model will simply install the salary for the rebake in the Kuril Islands!
                  1. Wolf
                    Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 19
                    0
                    A state can interfere with salary relations in separate regions where it is interesting, and oligarchs should not receive 1000% of their business, and this can also be regulated by the state in different ways.
                    1. Wolf
                      Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 21
                      0
                      In addition, there are many ways to interest the chapel malek ribaka that bi worked through a back office, received a modern boat for a loan, etc. In the short opportunity there are many.
                    2. faiver
                      faiver 25 December 2018 21: 25
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                      Sorry, the discussion about anything, you do not know any Russian realities, or climatic conditions,
          2. Wolf
            Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 35
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            Suggest as an example that bi 1 Jaaponsk Ribocompany got the rights to catch a rib and that the workforce can beat Ruski and get a good concession and a higher payment for the workplace, plus a new catch technology and processing of the rib with modern equipment itself. Then, the business may well expand. Russia has a natural monopoly. For the ribohozyaystvo, the world leader in production and export can easily beat the world. ;)
        2. faiver
          faiver 25 December 2018 11: 27
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          I understand from Bulgaria it is probably more visible smile I repeat to you that it’s not profitable to run a real business, not poaching and stealing ...
          1. Wolf
            Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 54
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            Fire, how many miles are there to Japonie?
          2. Wolf
            Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 55
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            Not from Bulgaria from Serbia!
            1. Wolf
              Wolf 25 December 2018 11: 56
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              How many miles to Japan?
              1. faiver
                faiver 25 December 2018 12: 13
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                no matter how many miles there are, lack of infrastructure, power supply and harsh climatic conditions do their job
                1. Wolf
                  Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 09
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                  What is the climate in Alaska? As for energy supply, I think that for Russia there is no problem, infrastructure yes, but if you consider the potential to sell ribe with the minimum infrastructure costs, will the account be more positive? There eats and a lot of opportunities and about green energy, etc. If you want, and if you’re eating your mind, it’s completely vozmozhno and ochim nailed.
                  1. Wolf
                    Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 12
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                    In addition, I read that they have already restored 1 airport in the Kuril Islands?
                    1. faiver
                      faiver 25 December 2018 21: 22
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                      landing strip for the military is not an airport ...
                  2. faiver
                    faiver 25 December 2018 21: 21
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                    Did you smoke these islands blown from all sides, Alaska mainland, energy supply is not a problem for Russia? You don’t want any fish with crabs, such a cost of electricity, there will be no positive result with investments in infrastructure, this is not a warm Europe ...
                    1. Wolf
                      Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 28
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                      There is a lot of wind and many sources of warm water; this is the energy near you. Smoked lies on energy!
                      1. faiver
                        faiver 25 December 2018 21: 30
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                        all alternative energy subsidized ...
                        service is too expensive
                      2. Wolf
                        Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 34
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                        Yes, I know, if there is no void there, you don’t have to pay for the land, and the wind that you can put whatever you want to the wind generator. Heat water from the land for heating apartments will already be cheaper than the superficial heating, etc. It is not necessary that the bi beat is subsidized, it is subsidized that the bi stimulated the growth of greener energy.
                      3. faiver
                        faiver 25 December 2018 21: 36
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                        Wolf, you forgive me, but you are very far from reality bully
                      4. Wolf
                        Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 41
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                        I think that vi. Do not know how much is the heating of an apartment in Europe. Even at home, even in Belgrade, they do it on the groundwater heating system. Is Kator's private company creating a house with apartments for sale with such heating if it would not be beneficial to the buyer? Technology goes on like a bistro.
                      5. Wolf
                        Wolf 25 December 2018 21: 42
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                        To these houses the urban heat supply is also coming, but ....... they are rather real. :)
                      6. faiver
                        faiver 25 December 2018 21: 59
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                        technologies require maintenance, you live in a civilization where a service company will arrive to you in a maximum of a day, and an ambulance for 10 minutes, and there is nothing of that, nothing at all,
                      7. Wolf
                        Wolf 25 December 2018 22: 38
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                        I agree with you, do not measure for minus. I didn’t say that it’s easy, it’s hard but possible. But if you have the opportunity to export the riba to Jaaponiu (even through the Japanese company), it’s such a treat that it won’t miss. Nothing is normal without calculations, but the potential of the Yaponsk Rinka Ribe is huge. I think that bi eto was beaten up at the cost of infrastructure and thought out the energy supply. Under current conditions, this is not possible, but if the state applies the least developed, it is not possible. (the law on salaries for the region, investment is beneficial, etc.) Vapros eats how much the state is interested in, it also eats Sakhalin, where it is also possible to develop ribohazaystvo, etc. But my poenta beat that the ribohozyaystvo should be developed and that Russia has the precondition that the world beat the world leader in the production and export of ribe, and that it is very important for the country's economy and raising the standards of living for the population. It is not necessary that bi eto started sa Kurilakh.
                      8. Wolf
                        Wolf 25 December 2018 22: 54
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                        Fire, even with today's economical relationship in Russia, Russia has never developed this industry. Who will rebuke in these moraines for $ 1500 a month? But I can tell you that 1 Tuna od 100-150 kg. sold in Japonia at an auction of a market where several thousand dollars are reached, for 1 Tuna you can buy 1 new car. E now calculate how many machines the Jaaponzi machine is eating per day and multiply by 365 days.
                      9. Wolf
                        Wolf 25 December 2018 22: 59
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                        Sorry about 50kg pa on a vich.
            2. faiver
              faiver 25 December 2018 12: 10
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              Well, sorry, good from Serbia hi
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 25 December 2018 23: 02
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        In the Kuril Islands, much is cost-effective, you don’t even have to pay for warm water and heating, boiling water directly from the ground))).

        And the main business there can be done on fish, shrimp, crabs and other seafood. All this can be caught and processed in the Kuril Islands.
  11. Conductor
    Conductor 25 December 2018 11: 29
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    If so, then the news is excellent, on the eve of NG !!!!
  12. Hypersound
    Hypersound 25 December 2018 11: 34
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    It is necessary to militarize the Far East of the Russian Federation as much as possible
  13. Archikah
    Archikah 25 December 2018 19: 27
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    What color is such a house ?! Like the flag of schizophrenia and one under-state. am
  14. Radikal
    Radikal 25 December 2018 20: 19
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    Shoigu announced the readiness of the military infrastructure in the Kuriles
    And painters for painting objects from the Ruins were called, and they naturally painted in their favorite, yellow-black colors? Or the one who was responsible for the construction has a complete lack of elementary taste! sad
    1. faiver
      faiver 25 December 2018 21: 27
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      what paint in stock was so and painted laughing
  15. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 27 December 2018 00: 42
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    It is natural that in the Kuril Islands it is necessary to create all conditions for people, including and a bridge with Sakhalin. I believe that the residents of these territories should also have benefits. And then, after all, as our capital was increased in size by the former, they link it with the continuation of the metro, they are upset, the population of nearby regions is being taken away, and the province remains impoverished, the villages will soon be completely depopulated
  16. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 28 December 2018 03: 09
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    What's the point? What, the Japanese are going to take away the Kuriles by force from us, or what?