President of Belarus refused to call Russia a brotherly state

A day before the meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the head of the Republic of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, said that he would not call Russia a brotherly state. According to Lukashenko, relations between the two countries are not perceived as such in Moscow, not in Minsk.

From the statement of Lukashenko, which is today published on Online Belarusian President:

I am no longer saying “brotherly state” because, as I am informed, this is not perceived in Russia. Supposedly new people came to whom this concept is unacceptable. Well, we will be partners.

According to the Belarusian leader, a sufficient number of signed documents and agreements that are not implemented have accumulated. It was about agreements that were signed by representatives of the Council of Ministers of the Union State and at the Supreme State Council.

Lukashenko:

As for oil prices, the situation changed three years ago. During these three years, we lost almost $ 4,5 billion due to the tax maneuver (in the oil industry of Russia). We understand that in the coming years, up to about 2024, we will incur another $ 10,5 billion in losses

Lukashenka reminded that the Russian authorities promised to compensate for the loss to Minsk, but the promises, according to the Belarusian leader, did not fulfill.

Recall that a few days ago, in the Belarusian media (Nasha Niva), referring to unnamed sources, a meeting was announced allegedly held at the President of the Republic of Belarus, where Lukashenka called for defending sovereignty. After some time, the official Minsk denied the information on holding such a meeting.

The previous negotiations with the Russian president on the part of his Belarusian counterpart were of a rather harsh tone. Lukashenko complained that prices for Russian gas in Belarus are significantly higher than, for example, in the neighboring Smolensk region. Vladimir Putin responded to this remark with a call for greater integration between our countries.

Comments

[Destiny]

Lukashenko complains that Russian gas prices in Belarus are significantly higher than, for example, in the neighboring Smolensk region
Okay .. And he can’t do cheaper than in the Smolensk region?

[Snail N9]

This dude (Lukashenka) understands "brotherhood" only in the sense that the "elder" brother (Russia) should take off his last shirt for his sake, and not even get in return, "thank you" - what kind of "thank you"? - " we are brothers "....

[AnpeL]

Well, yes, but now it turns out that not even brothers, but partners. Why is he so feverish?

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: AnpeL

Well, yes, but now it turns out that not even brothers, but partners. Why is he so feverish?

I thought dad was smarter, now is not the time for such feints.

[AnpeL]

Well, apparently he still has his own shirt closer to his body.

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: AnpeL

Well, apparently he still has his own shirt closer to his body.

Times are different now, it’s not up to your shirt, or rather that it really would be closer to the body, you need to forget about your own and think about the general. When we are together, then we are a great power. And it’s bad that he doesn’t understand this, and he’s no one at all and there’s no way to call him.

[Poor]

The fact that the signed agreements do not work is pure truth, everything is based on the purely commercial interests of certain individuals, there is nothing in common .....
only one rule applies "friendship is friendship, but tobacco apart"

[bayard]

Lukashenko has not yet proved his allied status (a member of the union state). Neither S. Ossetia nor Abkhazia recognized Russia as Crimea, nor the Ukrainian regime as fascist, it uses fuel and weapons to bargain with them, it did not help in Syria, nor did it give the base (so that it would be possible to cover \ protect Kaliningrad from debt He doesn’t pay, he constantly buys discounts, he smuggles goods from the EU, blackmails at every turn ...
Now NON-BROTHER.
He said - no one pulled his tongue.
It would be necessary, fraternally, to entrust all of his non-brotherly share to him. Yes, with interest for the damage.
Sanctions?
Let there be sanctions - we are partners now. And with partners without sanctions in any way.

[Poor]

with such a life position, it’s not only impossible to maintain good relations, but you’ll lose the last supporters, and if you think that you can bend everyone with force or waving a gas pipe like horseradish, then you can break the bend

[bayard]

And we will bend and break.
NEGAT is a diagnosis.
Partner is destiny.
And good relations still need to be earned.
You are NOT DESERVED.

[bayard]

If Lukash's words are correctly stated, then get ready for a complete "partner" package - customs, world prices, general rules and quotas on the Russian market.
The matter is heading for war, and therefore the non-brothers must be cut off and flogged right away - no hope for them and no condescension. Your "Old Man" sat on the throne with a camarilla. LOST!
Lytvyn?
Go to Grybauskaite for gas and oil. There are Belarusian tractors and shrimps with milk.
Then you will have fun. Then you laugh.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sirota

with such a life position, it’s not only impossible to maintain good relations, but you’ll lose the last supporters

Which supporters? Those whose foreign ministers lay wreaths at the memorial to Georgian soldiers killed in Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Or those who still cannot decide whose Crimea is (I’m not talking about South Ossetia and Abkhazia)?

What exactly is the "support" of the official authorities of Belarus expressed in? In obtaining loans and preferences at prices from Russia? Or in statements about the sovereignty of the state at the slightest attempt to remind that brotherhood is never one-sided?

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Sirota

with such a life position, it’s not only impossible to maintain good relations, but you’ll lose the last supporters, and if you think that you can bend everyone with force or waving a gas pipe like horseradish, then you can break the bend

They tried to break it already. History teaches you nothing ...

[Poor]

yes it’s hot here, but at my place outside the window -35C and the children go to school, cool down the warriors

[aws4]

he understands this as well as the fact that Russia is an independent state .. does everything right

[For example]

Putin calls Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians one nation.
But the hatched in 1991 rushing from corner to corner. Either brothers, then not brothers. Now here are the partners.
Is Lukashenko a Ukrainian? Judging by the last name

Not tired of playing in the nationality?
They break in the chairs of the presidential comedy, and people suffer. Only presidents fuck.

If you want gas like in Smolensk, become areas of our GENERAL HOMELAND.

One thing breaks him very little - now the president, and will become the governor (if they choose)

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: For example

One thing breaks him very little - now the president, and will become the governor (if they choose)

It’s all from this. The sole craving for power is to blame for everything.

[Gray brother]

Quote: For example

One thing breaks him a lot - now the president, and the governor

It is not necessary that Russia is a federal state, and you can remain president.

But of course he won’t do this, the Union was torn to pieces for the sake of power and material nishtyaks, he tore off a piece of himself and will hold on to it until the last.
Russia, by the way, is exactly the same piece, just the largest.

[For example]

Quote: Gray Brother

The Union was torn apart for the sake of power and material nishtyaks ...

Will take "nishtyaki" to the grave? Or did you design eternal life for yourself?
First, Russia was torn to pieces. Then the leftovers.
It's time to turn on the brains and put together what the Communists squandered.

If there is enough will to unite, it will remain in history for centuries. As a man who returned the Russian lands and united our people together. Russian and Belorussian. Rusov and BeloRusov.

And these are not "goodies".

Quote: Gray Brother

Russia, by the way, is exactly the same piece ...

Here you are wrong.
Russia is the homeland. Russia Fatherland. Homeland of our fathers and fathers of our fathers.
They shed their blood for her. They gave their lives.

So, filter the bazaar. You are not in Ukraine with a crutch on your head.

The fact that the ghouls allowed to tear off the land from our homeland does not make my homeland a piece.
My grandfathers gave their lives for Russia-Russian Empire-USSR.
And this is not a damn "piece".

Like it or not, Putin returned part of the land.

[Gray brother]

Quote: For example

The fact that the ghouls allowed to tear off the land from our homeland does not make my homeland a piece.

Is this not a part of the USSR torn off by criminal Yeltsin? For him and his packs, it was just a piece. Tasty.
And who was there for what the blood shed it certainly worried him last.

[stalki]

Is this not a part of the USSR torn off by criminal Yeltsin? For him and his packs, it was just a piece. Tasty.

"piece" sounds offensive and demeaning. But you are right, such as Yeltsin could and can think in exactly such terms. And people who have respect for their homeland, history, no matter what views of the left or right, will choose words about their homeland with soul.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

The Union was torn apart for the sake of power and material nishtyakov, he tore off a piece of himself and will hold on to it until the last.

Note: Lukashenko was the only (!) Who
voted against the dissolution of the USSR.
The union was torn by others.

[Gray brother]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Note: Lukashenko was the only (!) Who
voted against the dissolution of the USSR.

But this did not stop him from becoming president of a sovereign state. You might think he was kicked out by force.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Gray Brother

You might think he was kicked out by force.

Where did they kick out?
From a dissolved Union?
In Bialowieza, the signatory from the BSSR was Shushkevich.
Lukashenko became president just in the wake
denial by the Belarusian people of this dirty deed.

[_Sergei_]

Exactly, in the wake it took off and forgot that it is necessary to unite with Russia.

[Fitter]

There was no such thing, it was not he who voted against.

[alexmach]

But of course he won’t do this, the Union was torn to pieces for the sake of power and material nishtyaks, he tore off a piece of himself and will hold on to it until the last.

Well, in fairness, Lukashenko was the only deputy in the Supreme Soviet of the BSSR who voted against the declaration of sovereignty.

[Fitter]

It was not Lukashenko.

[LSA57]

Quote: For example

and the governor will become (if they choose)

That's it, if APPOINTED. or maybe straight to the management houses

[Poor]

Quote: For example

They break in the chairs of the presidential comedy, and people suffer. Only presidents fuck.

If you want gas like in Smolensk, become areas of our GENERAL HOMELAND.

do you think the price of the homeland is the price of gas? Freud clause. (psychopathology of everyday life) 1901.

[79807420129]

Well, we will be partners.

Well, daddy, partners are partners, be so affectionate, for gas, oil, fuel at world prices, please, and scatter from under our nuclear umbrella, and we will score a bet on how long you will sit on the throne when you will be Maidan and How long will the western "partners" take you, and Rostov is not rubber.

[Eula]

But Moscow and Novosib are not rubber for the Chinese, etc.
nationalities related to you?

[SRC P-15]

Someone is strenuously breeding our peoples. Only recently there was an article about Lukashenka and on you: "and again about him." Maybe it’s enough to pour negative on the President of Belarus? Everyone has already expressed their opinion on this in the previous article. And including me. This time I won't write nasty things about him, I'd rather wait for the meeting of our presidents. I am sure that after their conversation, many will be ashamed of their words, including me. Citizens should be kinder and more far-sighted!
Minusers - go ahead!

[passerby]

He fully deserved all the negativity that is being poured on him.

Quote: SRC P-15

Someone is strenuously breeding our peoples. Only recently there was an article about Lukashenka and on you: "and again about him." Maybe it’s enough to pour negative on the President of Belarus? Everyone has already expressed their opinion on this in the previous article. And including me. This time I won't write nasty things about him, I'd rather wait for the meeting of our presidents. I am sure that after their conversation, many will be ashamed of their words, including me. Citizens should be kinder and more far-sighted!
Minusers - go ahead!

[atos_kin]

Quote: bystander

He completely deserved all the negativity that is being poured on him.

This is the only leader in the post-Soviet era who is worthy of respect. The only thing that he does not know how to lie to his own and the Russian people, as the former "communists and KGBists" did and continue to do. Take a look around the former Soviet republics, only Belarusians are building a welfare state and at the same time do not spit into the past and do not erect monuments to liars. A. Lukashenko is the most Russian of all at the helm.

[Warrior05]

I almost disagree here .... it’s easy to be kind and honest at someone else’s expense. And they began to tighten the bolts, and they are offended.
Only my opinion, without claims to the truth.

[Eula]

Tales to tell that everything that has been done in Belarus at the expense of Russian pensioners is not necessary. This is to tell Russian pensioners to cover up their more pressing problems. At least money does not go for yachts, and the roads are built along which the Russians go. And about do not forget the RUSSIAN language, Belarus is the only, ONLY state in which the Russian language is STATE

[your1970]

Quote: Eula

Tales of telling that everything that has been done in Belarus at the expense of Russian pensioners is not necessary.

- why? no fairy tales! everything is simpler - he buys gas at Union prices - he immediately resells it to the EU at European prices. Margin in the budget of Belarus, and live on it .....

[Alexga]

Absolutely right!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: atos_kin

Do not spit in the past and do not erect monuments to liars.

Well ... The works of the Nobel Russophobic Aleksievich were included in the school curriculum - this is for objectivity. And so yes

Quote: atos_kin

A. Lukashenko is the most Russian of all at the helm.

[Alexga]

By the way, Alisievich does not have a single work in the Belarusian language. True, her "creativity" has a very weak relationship to fiction.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: AlexGa

her "creativity" has very little relation to fiction.

Duc, which was required to prove. The Aleksievich project has a purely political basis. I am sincerely sorry for the Belarusian schoolchildren.

[Alexga]

Believe me, there are more problems with Solzhenitsyn in Russia.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: AlexGa

Solzhenitsyn has bigger problems in Russia.

Well, problems ... At one time, they successfully snatched one of the ideological "stings" from the mattresses. True, for this it was necessary to warm this "snake" for a short period. And now the "great janitor" is already entering the business, History itself, which, be calm, will sweep out the excess. And now there is no longer that craze for "gulags" and so on, as, for example, at the turn of the 80-90s. As for the fact that, upon his return, he was still treated kindly by the authorities, then, I repeat, it was a kind of "cookie" addressed to the former dissident. Which, by the way, with the same enthusiasm with which the Soviet Union had barked earlier, began to fire the mattress. It's a little oversimplified here, well, I think the main message is clear.

[VeteranVSSSR]

“The war does not have a woman’s face” even during the councils were held in extracurricular reading.

[Metamisolatria]

And our dictation from Israel dictated for exams not so long ago (sorry I won’t find a link), Tolstoy and Pushkin majestically remove their works from the school program .. And I want to duel with the authors of our textbooks with any outcome, even to be killed and not to see this degradation is good
So there’s no need for an old dad, if at home the mother cutlets oversalt, all the Old Man is to blame ..

[Sarmat Sanych]

atos_kin, do not live in rainbow myths, I myself come from there, I know well about the "welfare state". A long time ago this is not, but the Luke grandmother family has considerable billions ($ of course) plus close oligarchs - Moshensky, Sparrow, etc. In fact, everything rests on subsidies and subsidies from Russia, which make up about 50% of Belarus' GDP annually.
And about "honor the past and do not erect monuments to liars" is also a bobble. They put, for example, the Polish interventionist Kalinovsky, a number of other "zmagars", "the shooting of the NKVD in Kurapaty", young people are already studying the "alternative history" and the offensive (albeit not so intensively yet) on the Russian language in schools goes, everything is a beaten path. There are full of the same svidomykh, Old Man and yours and ours.

[Alexga]

Sergei, you shouldn't be so. For almost 25 years they have been looking for Lukashen's money all over the world, but they cannot find it. And with the second half, I completely agree. The lack of ideology in the state is a misfortune in wars with local "svyadomye".

[Sarmat Sanych]

Alex, if I gave you a plus, others will bypass. With regards to Lukashenka's money, they are in Russian, Belarusian, Baltic and a little Ukrainian assets, plus in Belarusian banks. That's all the questions. The main source of replenishment of both the state treasury and its own is oil distillation under the guise of "for its own market", "solvents", etc.

[atos_kin]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Old Man and yours and ours.

I can't argue with you, I can't see everything from afar. But the fact that the Old Man between not ours has to be seen. And while the West does not love him, he is more with us. But the helmsmen of the Russian Federation measure friendship with money. This is a dead end. And then it will be like "Svidomo".

[Topotun]

“I can’t argue with you, I don’t see everything from afar. But the fact that Old Man has to be spinning between ours can be seen. And while the West doesn’t love him, he’s more with us. But the helmsmen of the Russian Federation measure friendship with money. This is a dead end. And then it will be like Svidomo. "

Sorry, but investing in a friendly state for decades without any support for Russia is somehow wrong. After all, one should think about one’s own ones as well, first of all.

[Pivot]

Well, it’s not all alone, but Karimov, and Rakhmon in Turkmenistan, gas is free for the population, fuel is given to the population, public transport is free, not everyone began to grab when the Union fell apart.

[your1970]

Quote: Pivot

Rakhmon in Turkmenistan gas is free for the population, fuel is given out to the population, public transport is free,

departure to citizens of Turkmenistan abroad if there is a deposit in 10 000 dollars (!!!), the average salary is cheap - therefore free - otherwise no one could use it at all
About grabbing is generally you got excited.
Mother Turkmenbashi received the Order of the Hero of Turkmenistan for giving birth to the "Father of Turkmen". For the order, the monetary allowance is 10 dollars a year. Since mom died 000 years before, Turkmenbashi, as an heir, put this money in his pocket. A small thing (36kbaks !!) - but nice

[passerby]

Tired of Lukashenko building a social state at the expense of Russian taxpayers. And at his own expense no one forbids him to build, only he stubbornly wants to build this very social state at the expense of Russia. Let’s then take turns, Lukashenko ate $ 10 billion from Russia over 100 years, now let the next 10 years, the same amount be financed by the construction of a social state in Russia, but at the expense of Belarusian taxpayers.

[bardadym]

After the collapse of the Union, new teachers appeared in every single school in Belarus for a maximum of a month. Historians who did not know anything from history except the pathos of fairy tales about the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and teachers of Belarusian Literature (although such a thing already existed in schools), who in their lessons told mainly about vile Muscovites, have been oppressing the freedom-loving European Belarusian People for thousands of years.
IMHO, Maidan in Belarus did not happen for only one single and very specific reason - because of poverty. The country itself is stupidly little money. And for some reason, maidan don’t rise on one potato.
And to exclude the lack of dough - so there would have long ago exploded. All prerequisites have long been created.

[viralig]

Sadly, he deeply does not care about the people. Promises milk rivers and jelly banks. But in fact, he and his close associates have .icorn, and ordinary people, in the best case, have bread without anything, and together a sandwich. And he has no friends, he himself talked about it - so there is nothing to be surprised.

[Phil77]

But they didn’t guess! You wrote everything correctly. Therefore, you are a plus! I agree with you

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Phil77

But they didn’t guess! You wrote everything correctly. Therefore, you are a plus! I agree with you

Mutually!

[Tarhan]

Someone is intensely breeding our peoples.

Kremlin.

The Kremlin was unable to settle fraternally with Ukraine. Now he has taken up Belarus. See, so the Kremlin, worse enemies than Ukraine and Belarus, in the whole world and can not be found.

And this is with the closest Slavic peoples. Not Slavic look at this in bewilderment and naturally beware.

[Pontelimon 5230]

With the closest peoples? If I am not mistaken, there are 28 states in the EU and they do not call each other fraternal peoples, but when they introduced sanctions against Russia, everyone voted unanimously, although some suffered more losses than other countries. There are only 2 countries in the "union" treaty between Russia and Belarus, and when Russia imposed retaliatory sanctions, Belarus remained on the sidelines. And moreover, she decided to make money on this, importing sanctioned goods under the guise of her own. Do the fraternal peoples act like that?

[Tarhan]

and when Russia imposed retaliatory sanctions, Belarus remained on the sidelines.

Why, for the inadequate foreign policy of only the Kremlin, which did not take into account the interests of the CIS countries, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan should to some extent be responsible.

And moreover, she decided to make money on this by importing sanctioned goods under the guise of her own.

You somehow separate cutlets from flies. These are not government structures of Belarus engaged in business. This private capital decided to get a bribe. And this Belarusian private trader was somehow connected with the Russian private trader otherwise there would be no buy-sell.

But the Kremlin did not find anything better than to crush these products with bulldozers. After all, they could quietly send this confiscated to orphanages, to nursing homes. So no, stupid propaganda was needed.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Tarkhan

Why, for the inadequate foreign policy of only the Kremlin, which did not take into account the interests of the CIS countries, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan should to some extent be responsible.

So nobody captives you. You can not answer.
Only sovereign state - sovereign prices. Nobody is going to feed anyone for beautiful eyes.

[Eula]

Great-power momentary chauvinism smacks of, split (just like that) Ukraine, now Belarus are breaking away? Then what? Tatarstan, Siberia? A sharp plant in the hands and go!

[Tarhan]

Nobody is going to feed anyone for beautiful eyes.

Don’t feed. Sell ​​for mutual financial gain. So no, the Kremlin is hinting - we are giving you oil, and you are in the subject of the Russian Federation.

[stalki]

Someone is strenuously breeding our peoples. Only recently there was an article about Lukashenka and on you: "and again about him." Maybe it’s enough to pour negative on the President of Belarus? Everyone has already expressed their opinion on this in the previous article. And including me. This time I won't write nasty things about him, I'd rather wait for the meeting of our presidents. I am sure that after their conversation, many will be ashamed of their words, including me. Citizens should be kinder and more far-sighted!
Minusers - go ahead!

I'd rather be a plus the fact that for a long time a wedge has been driven between our fraternal peoples is more clear. Well, our main ones will turn as usual, and agree on fraternally, I really hope.

[VeteranVSSSR]

Allow me to use your ,, minUSER '' for communication on the forum?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

I thought dad was smarter

he is not smart, he is cunning

[passerby]

The panic started: “They remove the gypsum, the client leaves” (c). It reached him that no one would contain his regime for empty talk about "fraternal peoples".

[passerby]

I completely stopped seeing the shore and lost my instinct. Doctors apparently will be sent to him from Moscow soon and will begin to treat.

Quote: Underwater Hunter

Quote: AnpeL

Well, yes, but now it turns out that not even brothers, but partners. Why is he so feverish?

I thought dad was smarter, now is not the time for such feints.

[snake]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

I thought dad was smarter, now is not the time for such feints.

For every sage, simplicity is enough. When you sit on the princely throne longer than all the "monarchs" in the CIS, the connection with reality becomes shaky.
Well, now Belarus is a "partner" too ... Well, thank you, Father, for the New Year's "gift"!

[ASX]

The campaign is setting the stage for refusal to once again support the actions of the Russian Federation in the event of a possible quick showdown with Ukraine, if it starts an attack on the Donbass.

[cniza]

Unfortunately, you are right.

[Piramidon]

Quote: AnpeL

Well, yes, but now it turns out that not even brothers, but partners.

Oh, how sovereign Emperor Alexander III Alexandrovich was right

To this, you can now add the videoconferencing.

[Alexga]

Maybe he is right, only the victory of his army and navy was not. Unfortunately.

[kapitan92]

Quote: AlexGa

Maybe he is right, only the victory of his army and navy was not. Unfortunately.

Carrying out a political course, Alexander 3 tried to combine the chosen direction for cost saving with a further increase in financing the maintenance and rearmament of the army and navy. According to Alexander III, the funds spent on these purposes were fully reimbursed by the world in which Russia lived. Strong Russia could calmly look at neighbors rattling with weapons, it was feared and respected.
The system of military views of Alexander III was defensive in nature. Its main points provided for: increasing the combat readiness of the army by increasing the number of combat-ready military units; reduction of military service from six to five years, which allowed to increase the number of trained male military population of the country; modernization of the military and technical arsenal; strengthening border districts and fortresses along the western borders of Russia; improving the training of the officer corps.
In total, from 1880 to 1886, an average of 210 - 220 million rubles was spent on military needs. annually .. Shipbuilding program of 1885 was revised and included for the Baltic Sea: 9 armadillos, 4 cruisers of 1 rank (class),
9 cruisers of 2 ranks, 1 mine cruiser, 10 counter-destroyers, 40 destroyers и

11 gunboats . In total, by 1896, 8 squadron battleships, 7 cruisers, 9 gunboats and 51 destroyers were built and commissioned.
For outer seas and operations in the Far East, began to build squadron battleships with a displacement of up to 10 thousand tonsarmed with 4 guns of caliber 305 mm and 12 guns of caliber 152 mm. But the main type of ships under construction continued to be armored cruisers designed for long ocean voyages ("Dmitry Donskoy", "Vladimir Monomakh", "Ad-

Miral Nakhimov ”,“ In Memory of Azov ”,“ Rurik ”). The displacement of the fleet by the end of the reign of Alexander III reached 300 thousand tons, which brought the Russian fleet to third place in the world after England and France.

[Alexga]

So then it is, but 1904 came and that’s it! There was no government system. But this is our historical disease.

[kapitan92]

Quote: AlexGa

So then it is, but 1904 came and that’s it! There was no government system. But this is our historical disease.

Nature on the son, Nicholas 2 recouped!

[Alexga]

Son Transib rebuilt for that war. There are many different reasons. But we invented the mortar in that war!

[Poor]

and conclusions are not made and history repeats itself

[Piramidon]

Quote: AlexGa

Maybe he is right, only the victory of his army and navy was not. Unfortunately.

Well, then Russia did not fight with anyone. So that you do not "regret" it was necessary for someone to declare a full-scale war? During the entire reign of Alexander III, Russia had only one minor armed clash with the Afghans (1885)

[TAMBU]

Well, where are the Romanovs today, who relied on the army and navy? Betrayed including the army and navy of Nicholas II ...

[svp67]

Quote: AnpeL

Well, yes, but now it turns out that not even brothers, but partners. Why is he so feverish?

But it was somehow strange that all this began to coincide with rumors that GDP could become the head of the UNITED UNION STATE. Coincidence? I don’t think ....

[Harry.km]

Quote: svp67

Coincidence? I don’t think ....

The GDP rating dropped. Victories are not expected, in the economy there is nothing to gain. Future pensioners are indignant ... With NG, the nishtyaks will break off in the form of + 2% VAT, and the "garbage" reform, from March gasoline with diesel fuel will fly upward, just in time for the sowing season, well, as usual ... So a new brace is born: Father is to blame for all the troubles.

[Poor]

and what are these rumors of chi based on, or maybe dad the Head of the Union State and the single economy?

[Baloo]

Quote: AnpeL

President of Belarus refused to call Russia a brotherly state

Quote: AnpeL

Well, yes, but now it turns out that not even brothers, but partners. Why is he so feverish

And what, now will we call Lukashenko a sister?

[igorka357]

The usual weather vane!

[aws4]

Yes, that’s exactly because what kind of brothers henchmen and puppets may be for him, disdaining the peoples of Russia and Belarus? Lukashenko handsome does everything right, but in the info war, of course, he has little strength with this group of proteges under the name of the Russian government, how did these Kremlin temporary workers fool you and their children over the hill and finances ..

[plotnikov561956]

The Kremlin is a fraternal state ... Israel ... There is not even a desire to list the sons ... bergs..vichs ... Yes ... the main Shelomov-Kabaev. For internal use in the OCG "Ozero" -Mikhail Ivanovich

[SSR]

Quote: Snail N9

only in the sense that the "older" brother (Russia) should take off his last shirt for his sake, and in return he won't even receive, "thank you" -

What are we talking about. (((

we have lost almost $ 4,5 billion. We understand that in the coming years, until about 2024, we will lose another $ 10,5 billion

That is, he considers our money to be his loss, that is, we are not even fraternal people, but a partner who, from his family pocket, must pay tribute to the Old Man.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from S.S.R.

What are we talking about. (((

about gas and oil

[venik]

Quote: Snail N9

This dude (Lukashenka) understands "brotherhood" only in the sense that the "elder" brother (Russia) should take off his last shirt for his sake, and not even get in return, "thank you" - what kind of "thank you"? - " we are brothers ".... wink

========
Personally, "this dude" (Alexander Lukashenko) touches me with only one feature - he always tries to sit alone .... (Sorry! I almost "did not express myself" !!) - "with one" seat "on" 2 (two!) chairs at once) .... With all the fact that these "chairs" are constantly "dispersed" .... On the one hand - CLEAR! He wants to do EVERYTHING FOR HIS Countries!!!
BUT!! The question immediately arises: Well, WHAT you need to have .. (Sorry! Once again, I almost "did not express myself"!) .. That is, WHAT do you need to have a "seat" (!) To "sit" on 2 (two!) "Moving away" chairs ???? After all, sooner or later you can "miss" and "sit BETWEEN the chairs" !!!
And WHAT happens in "this case" - I have seen OWN EYES !!!! When the almost 2-meter "deputy director" accidentally "missed" .... According to Mark Twain: "It was a grand spectacle, reminiscent of the Mississippi Steamer Explosion !!!)

[Eula]

It is very interesting, if I write the phrase SADIL OF PUTIN, will I be banned? Or should everyone choose expressions, or is it a site policy?

[LSA57]

Quote: Snail N9

what is "thank you"? - "we are, after all, brothers" ....

this "brother" Crimea Russian has not yet recognized

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Snail N9

This dude (Lukashenka) understands "brotherhood" only in the sense that the "elder" brother (Russia) should take off his last shirt for his sake, and not even get in return, "thank you" - what kind of "thank you"? - " we are brothers "....

I am ashamed of people who do not use the brain at all to see what it was in the context, from which they so skillfully tear out a phrase for which the head of state, who has not lost fraternal ties with Russia, is being poured with dirt. And it says so:

Alexander Lukashenko noted that Russia is a key external partner for Belarus. “I’m not talking about a fraternal state, because, as I’m informed, this is not perceived in Russia. Allegedly, new people came to whom this concept is unacceptable. Well, let's be partners, "the Belarusian leader said.
"We have always emphasized the importance of this interaction. The comprehensive nature of our relations is of serious importance not only for Belarus, but also for Russia... They are built on a systematic and, most importantly, planned basis, "the President said.
He added, oh on all issues of agreements with Russia in the Union State and in general in terms of relations not only as partners, but also as a fraternal state close to Belarus, decisions have been made. “Many agreements have been signed both at the Supreme State Council, at the Union Council of Ministers, and in a bilateral format. Unfortunately, as I often say, not all of them are being implemented,” the Head of State noted.

Come on, keep pouring water on someone else's mill and you will have "happiness" ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

Come on, keep pouring water on someone else's mill and you will have "happiness" ...

It is sad that most of those present do not delve into what is actually happening, nor bother with at least an approximate analysis of the events taking place ... They see the title of the article and let's reflect on the whole Ivanovo ... who is in what is much. It seems that some have less brains than an aquarium fish ... ("people at work", I mean trolls, it doesn't count .. they have such a job).
And the next task and direction to undermine Russia's position is precisely Belarus (or Belarus - as anyone likes or is more familiar with). Directly replete sometimes in the eyes of the creativity of troll-like hacks, with rapture tearing a phrase out of context for the next catchy title. So they pour, pour water on someone else’s mill or feces on a fan for everyone.

[SSR]

Quote: ROSS 42

I am ashamed of people who do not use the brain at all to see what it was in the context, from which they so skillfully tear out a phrase for which the head of state, who has not lost fraternal ties with Russia, is being poured with dirt. And it says so:
Alexander Lukashenko noted that Russia is a key external partner for Belarus. “I’m not even talking about a fraternal state, because, as I’m being informed, this is not perceived in Russia. Allegedly, new people have come to whom this concept is unacceptable.

I may have highlighted something wrong .... but there is a problem IN, all the crap is not being checked.
What Mlyn, Sharia invite ?!

[stalki]

I am ashamed of people who don’t use the brain at all to see what it was in the context, from which they so skillfully tear out a phrase for which the head of state who has not lost fraternal ties with Russia

That is what our common enemies are achieving. Today, judgment is not in honor. Flea news painfully nimble went, the thoughts of many do not keep up with them.

[Victor N]

Everyone is free to deceive himself; one must look at the facts in order to comprehend the essence.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Snail N9

This dude (Lukashenka) understands "brotherhood" only in the sense that the "elder" brother (Russia) should take off his last shirt for his sake, and not even get in return, "thank you" - what kind of "thank you"? - " we are brothers "....

Well, here I agree with you. Hitler Lukashenko 80 level. At the same time, if they do not give him a freebie, he begins to spin backwards like an indecent girl with low social responsibility.

[Eula]

Do you have any administrators in the end, or can you already talk about Putin’s rear as Z ***?

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Snail N9

I must, for his sake, take off the last shirt, but in return I won't even get, "thank you" - what is "thank you"? - "we, after all, brothers" .... wink

my point of view from Belarus is the meanness that they are engaged in the transit of products from Europe under the guise of their own. But we are good! Khvanchkara from Georgia is being sold in our stores Red and White from Georgia, the import of which we ourselves have banned, due to their policy

[Eula]

No, dude, this older brother understands so that the younger one owes him Moscow (for example) as the land of Yakutia. Do you understand the difference or not?

[Egorovich]

Sell ​​gas and oil to Belarus only at world prices. When we’re together, prices will be introduced inside Russia, which is why demagogy should be bred every time.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Egorovich

Sell ​​gas and oil to Belarus only at world prices

Are you talking on behalf of Miller and Sechin? So they would sell in Russia at world prices, despite the lag of Russian salaries from world ones, but they are afraid. They are afraid that the people will take pitchforks and raise them high, high, right to the price level ...

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Egorovich

Sell ​​gas and oil to Belarus only at world prices. When we will be together

Why is RB not with us? Yes, because it does not want to feed our oligarchs!

[belly]

ABOUT! But few understand this!

Quote: aybolyt678

Why is RB not with us? Yes, because it does not want to feed our oligarchs!

I’ll add on my own that the introduction of a common economic space for Belarus’s nishtyaks has given, but the people of Belarus have cost a lot. They supported industry, the collective farms pulled a little, but food prices rushed up with terrible force, for example. In general, it seems that the advantages of integration are undoubted. But judging by a personal wallet ... Somewhere the pros go somewhere wrong :).

[Victor N]

Do you love horror stories? They feed, after all, their elite.

[belly]

Quote: Victor N

Do you love horror stories? They feed, after all, their elite.

We feed. But our "elite" is small and our appetite, so far, is moderate. Although this is already annoying. And let the Moscow sharks here, they will also devour our "fry of capitalism", and their appetites are better. And if we talk about officials, then there are fewer of them per capita in Belarus, the gap in income of officials from the people is less, ostentatious luxury is not welcomed, and, therefore, there is no irritation from them like from their Muscovite colleagues. In addition, the officials here at least do not use their tongues recklessly. They are quieter and more cautious, although they are the same oak. This fear of the bureaucracy is a direct result of Father's training. The only bad thing is that there is no government for the Old Man and his family.

[Halado Romane]

I sincerely wonder at the patience of Belarusians! This is a complete clowning unworthy of a person holding such a post!

[Nick_R]

I sincerely wonder at the patience of Belarusians

And I sincerely wonder at the patience of the Russians. So many years to keep a clown who in front of us, like a donkey, holds a carrot with promises of integration.

[Halado Romane]

Nick, we help our ordinary people there and naturally have the right to count on an adequate position of the leadership of this country. She is not there! The chairman, the collective farm has clearly beguiled the rams, and I agree with Tersky for free kirdyk. I think the chief collective farmer made a mistake that cannot be fixed.

[210ox]

And I am surprised that in our country they refer to publications like Nasha Niva .. It's like we constantly look at the opinion of Echo of Moscow .. With statements taken out of context. And it's not a clown, but then HOW it is all presented, and for what purpose.

[Halado Romane]

I am very interested, if not ridiculous, to read such comments about "they took the wrong agency out of context and the grenades of the wrong system!" We have heard so much from this figure of completely unfriendly statements that the latter itself does not play a big role! Everything in this world must have purpose. Feeding Lukashenka and helping Belarusians are completely different things. Lukashenka is not a friend to us, not a comrade and not an ally. Belarusians are our people and they will be in Russia.

[My doctor]

Quote: Halado romane

I sincerely wonder at the patience of Belarusians! This is a complete clowning unworthy of a person holding such a post!

Lukashenko’s son indirectly the head of the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus, I hope you all understand?

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: MyVrach

Quote: Halado romane

I sincerely wonder at the patience of Belarusians! This is a complete clowning unworthy of a person holding such a post!

Lukashenko’s son indirectly the head of the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus, I hope you all understand?

What is this term - "indirectly"?

[My doctor]

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

What is this term - "indirectly"?

Assistant to the President of Belarus for National Security, member of the Security Council of Belarus.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: MyVrach

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

What is this term - "indirectly"?

Assistant to the President of Belarus for National Security, member of the Security Council of Belarus.

You named two posts. Which of them is indirectly the head of the KGB of the Republic of Belarus, and which of them is indirectly the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus? Or is he in these two posts overseeing the heads of the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs? If so, with what authority? Does the head of the KGB and the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs report directly to him? If so, to what extent?
The question is not at all unambiguous, and it is certainly not so different that, having named posts with the addition of "indirectly" in passing, add meaningfully - "I hope you understand everything."

[My doctor]

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

Which of them is indirectly the head of the KGB of the Republic of Belarus, and which of them is indirectly the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus?

They are in the first as in the second in the third, etc. all fully, unconditionally obey the head of state. But you are right :)

[saturn.mmm]

My doctor says that this assistant looks after both the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: saturn.mmm

My doctor says h

A doctor, this is from Old Slavic - doctors, i.e. conspiracies. The doctor is a specialist in tooth baking.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: aybolyt678

A doctor, this is from Old Slavic - doctors, i.e. conspiracies. The doctor is a specialist in tooth baking.

We are not talking about a doctor but about an assistant.

[Eula]

It is strange to hear this from a person who suffers a year from his Native (I hope) government

[plotnikov561956]

Surprise Russia ...

[Tersky]

Quote: Destiny

And he can’t do cheaper than in the Smolensk region?

Lukashenka’s comrades did not taste the main message - free kirdyk. Hence the next kooky. They will give a loan, of course, and refinance another one, only everything will be calculated and announced. As well as honestly raised the question of gender self-determination - are you a boy or a girl, because the gender trainer is not our culture. And in general, from what fright within the framework of the EAEU should Belarus have better conditions than Armenia, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan? Everything is clear within the CIS, but there is political integration and legal unification in the EAEU — economics, money. However, Lukashenko is trying to turn everything upside down, he is trying to solve the political parts of the agreements in the EAEU format, and the economic ones in the Union State format.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Tersky

that's just it will be counted

It has always been carefully considered.

[Tersky]

Quote: saturn.mmm

It has always been carefully considered.

Sorry, but you don’t count your money? Over the 10 years, Belarus received subsidies and discounts from Russia for $ 60 billion for thanks, and even then not in all cases.

[Major Yurik]

President of Belarus refused to call Russia a brotherly state

I discovered a new one, it turns out the fraternity is the price of gas, but I thought a little different! The price of gas in the Smolensk region, just in case the territory of Russia, turns out to be a template for measuring fraternal relations! And not the recognition of Abkhazia and Ossetia, the trade in fuel from Russian oil with Bandera killing old people and children using machinery working on it, a modest silence at the UN on the Kerch provocation, etc., is direct fraternization super! Can partners really be better? Or is it again seasonal psycho nuts father?

[Eula]

Major seems to be reasoning, comrade or master is already like an ensign ... Impostor? Well then, I'm a general

[den3080]

Indeed, how can one call a fraternal state that sells fuel for ukrovermaht to the Nazi Ukrainian regime, made 100% from Russian oil and still requires billions of American money in compensation.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: den3080

кthe same can be called a fraternal state, which sells fuel for ukrovermaht to the nazi ukrainian regime

Yes, just as you can call the Russian government that organized

Foreign trade turnover between Russia and Ukraine in January-May 2018 amounted to $ 5,838 billion, showing an increase of 28,7% in annual terms

.
In the same way, how can you transfer money to Sberbank, which has no branches in the Crimea, and in Ukraine their Bandera fosterlings cannot be driven out by bricks, paint, or fixtures ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: ROSS 42

In the same way, how can you transfer money to Sberbank, which has no branches in Crimea

When were you in Crimea the last time? And in Belarus?

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: den3080

Indeed, what can be called a brotherly state that sells fuel for ukrovermaht made to 100% of Russian oil to the Nazi Ukrainian regime and at the same time
still requires billions of American money in compensation.

The Mozyr oil refinery is half Russian; sedition is obtained; for the ukrovermaht, 50% of Russians supply oil products.

[LSA57]

Quote: Destiny

And he can’t do cheaper than in the Smolensk region?

so that later he would sell it to urkainu

[tihonmarine]

Yes, I myself am from the Smolensk province, but this is Russia, but Belarus is now not the USSR, but another state, so pay as a foreign state. Or me ?

[siberalt]

If the gas is expensive, let them switch to peat. That will be his full sovereignty.

[edvardmiloslavsky]

so you have to behave fraternally .. you always have to be near .. with your brother. and it doesn’t matter if he is right or not.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: edvardmiloslavsky

so you have to behave fraternally .. you always have to be near .. with your brother. and it doesn’t matter if he is right or not.

I agree . I don’t understand, for example, why Crimea has not yet been recognized as Russian by the RB, but our permanent representative to the UN regularly votes against the race resolution. "Multi-vector"?

[Tersky]

Quote: bouncyhunter

but our permanent representative to the UN regularly votes against the race resolution. "Multi-vector"?

Pasha ! Let your ambassador open this: http://www.soyuz.by/about/docs/dogovor5/ where is the agreement on the creation of the Union State, which deals with a single currency and a single emission center (Article 22), the court ( chapter 4), the Accounts Chamber (chapter 5) ... There are many more interesting things, including - "The participating States will not assume international obligations that contradict the provisions of this Treaty" (part 2 of article 68). This is the question of the multi-vector foreign policy of Lukashenka, who single-handedly signed this agreement on the part of the Republic of Belarus. and carefully re-read all the points indicated. He most likely did not hold a union treaty in his hands

[bouncyhunter]

Hello Victor !

Quote: Tersky

He was most likely an allied treaty and did not hold in his hands

Hold, maybe held. But read it - thank you!
It reminds me of the Westerners who did not read the Minsk agreements.

[Tersky]

Quote: bouncyhunter

But read it - thank you!

And you him in his nose, nose Like a naughty cat, do not chase with pissing slippers, it runs wild

[edvardmiloslavsky]

literally according to V. Vysotsky, something like this ..
If a friend was suddenly
And not a friend, not an enemy, but - so,
If you do not understand right away,
Whether he is good or bad ... here too.

[210ox]

Pavel, good evening. This is all from TOY opera, why "Sberbank", the trinity of cellular communications and many others do not work in Crimea ..

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Dima!

Quote: 210ox

This is all from TOY opera, why "Sberbank", the trinity of cellular communications and many others do not work in Crimea

Nothing personal just business ?
Off topic: just on RTVi there was news that the Knesset was dissolved in Israel. They are evacuating ...

[helmi8]

Quote: bouncyhunter

"Multi-vector"?

Greetings Paul! This is called cunning for us. Old Man has long been sitting on two chairs - both ours and yours. And for a long time it can’t be like this, someday it will fall ...

[bouncyhunter]

Glad to see Sergey!

Quote: helmi8

This is called cunning for us.

We do too, but politicians have their own vocabulary.

Quote: helmi8

someday yes and fall ...

It is interesting that he himself understands this ...

[helmi8]

Quote: bouncyhunter

It is interesting that he himself understands this

It is also interesting that they all understand this, but act in their own way, contrary to logic. Although, what am I talking about? They also have her own ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: helmi8

It is also interesting that they all understand this, but act in their own way, contrary to logic. Although, what am I talking about? They also have her own ...

Maybe that's why it is sometimes difficult for ordinary people to understand the meaning of actions or statements of politicians?

[Tank hard]

Quote: edvardmiloslavsky

so you have to behave fraternally .. you always have to be near .. with your brother. and it doesn’t matter whether he is right or not

Are you talking about how Russia rushed about with Ukraine all the time?

[tihonmarine]

No, well, brothers are scum.

[Eula]

Is this also true for an older brother? Or is there another math here — flies separately, cutlets separately?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

how these "brothers" lured

[novobranets]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

how these "brothers" lured

Belarusians are really brothers, and Lukashenko, not all of Belarus yet. No need to stigmatize all the people for one person.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: novobranets

and Lukashenko

Well, yes and ParAschenko is not the whole of Ukraine, only rushing forgive as from the sewer
and for some reason, "all" of ukraine belarus do not want to be indignant against their leadership

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

ParAshenko

ParAshenko Jew if that. He before Ukraine affairs only as to a cash cow. and Lukashenko is Belarusian, and life in Belarus will be better than in Ukraine, even before the Maidan. this despite the fact that the resource base is less. With all its (Lukashenko's) drawbacks, the oligarchs are not unlimited with him, but they are moving along the string. And we have Chubais RosNano losses with aplomb from year to year notes. And it’s more and more difficult for ordinary people to live every year.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ingvar 72

ParAshenko Jew if that

and?!

Quote: Ingvar 72

And it’s more and more difficult for ordinary people to live every year.

and at the same time, Belarusians go here to work, and not vice versa, and the "Belarusian" Lukashenko himself, drives here tokoe ..., which is not what is scary to watch, as I understand it, he drives only fraternally

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and at the same time Belarusians go here to work,

Where are they going? He worked both in the market and in construction sites - I have not seen Belarusians anywhere. Single examples should not be given as an example. Let's be objective Vladimir.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ingvar 72

He worked both in the market and in construction sites - I have not seen Belarusians anywhere.

in Kaliningrad we come to the shift

According to Russian data, which the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Belarus cited last week, about 100 thousand compatriots are illegally working in Russia
https://ru.exrus.eu/Belorusskiye-gastarbaytery-v-Rossii-id521345ec6ccc19464600653d

676 thousand labor migrants from Belarus to Russia in 2017
Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/556290.html

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

https://ru.exrus.eu/Belorusskiye-gastarbaytery-v-Rossii-id521345ec6ccc19464600653d

Left unofficial Belarusian portal that refers to SOME (!) Russian sources.

According to Russian sources, about 100 thousand Belarusians work illegally in Russia.

Vladimir - do not disgrace yourself by citing such "sources" as an example.
I repeat - go through the markets and construction sites.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

no problem, give the correct data source

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

provide the correct data source

What for? Tell me, where did you personally see Belarusian guest workers? And massively? There are a lot of Azeris and Tajiks, and they are almost all already with Russian citizenship. Khokhlov is really less. There are no Turkmens, Bulbash and Baltic states. And the Kazakhs were almost not visible. Volodya - people don’t go in search of a better life from where everything is not so bad. The point is in our media, which treat us with pictures where it’s worse, but never where it’s better. When did you see a report on Turkmenistan on TV?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

in Kaliningrad, in a printing house, and they hire through an agency

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

in Kaliningrad, in the printing house

Massively? In Togliatti, no, in Samara, no. talked with the Urals - the same no. In Krasnodar, the same is not. Maybe a few vagrants came to you, and then only because of the proximity.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: novobranets

and Lukashenko, not all of Belarus. No need to stigmatize all the people for one person.

in the same way, Ukrainians don’t need to row 100 Bandera under one comb !!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tiksi-3

100 Bandera !!

name at least one anti-Bandera Maidan

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

name at least one anti-Bandera Maidan

in Odessa, Zaporozhye and Kharkov - where everyone was killed and put in prison
and do not measure the population by mass stocks! 95% of the population in Russia AGAINST pension reform - and have you seen the rallies?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tiksi-3

95% of the population in Russia AGAINST pension reform - and have you seen the rallies?

Did you conduct a survey ?!

Quote: Tiksi-3

in Odessa, Zaporozhye and Kharkov - where everyone was killed and put in prison

I remember for Odessa, although somehow everything calmed down, remind me for the rest

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

... and don’t measure the population by mass stocks! 95% of the population in Russia AGAINST pension reform - and have you seen the rallies?

Twirl YT, and you will see.

[Reserve officer]

Another disagreement in the leadership of the two countries. Well, our peoples, naturally, according to Mr. Lukashenko, should immediately turn their backs on each other.
Only we are not two herds. We are one people. Leaders come and go. But the people will remain. And sooner or later there will still be a real common state.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Another disagreement in the leadership of the two countries. Well, our peoples, naturally, according to Mr. Lukashenko, should immediately turn their backs on each other.

Or according to another gentleman or puppeteer.

[Eula]

Even if the name of this person is YeltsinMedvedevPutin? I agree, do not

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

how these "brothers" lured

Who lured you? What are you talking about? Have Belarusian people stole your savings? Or slipped palm oil cheeses to you? Or sold the stew without meat? Stop watering everyone and everything. You, like blind puppies, were poked in the right direction, and you continue to crawl and scream. Our blood brothers live there, the Slavs there. This is not Moscow for you, where 31% of Russians are left

the national and ethnic composition of Moscow is as follows: Russians - 31%; Azerbaijanis - 14%; Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs - 10%; Ukrainians - 9%; Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 6%; Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%; Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingushs - 4%; Armenians - 4%; Belarusians - 3%; Georgians - 3%; Moldavians - 3%; gypsies - 2%; Jews - 1%; other nations - 5%. More than 12 million people actually live in Moscow, of which 3.720.000 are Russian. In the capital of the Russian State, Russians are a national minority.

It remains to ask, but who is your brother?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: ROSS 42

Or slipped palm oil cheeses to you?

that's not necessary for this, I had the "luck" to buy the products of Belarusian farmers, our cities are being driven, but the "brothers" outdid us here

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: ROSS 42

there are Slavs

in poland and montenegro

[Eula]

You tell this to the Poles, they will be happy

[Tank hard]

Quote: ROSS 42

Our blood brothers live there, the Slavs there

Interestingly, but they themselves think so? Did you ask them?

[kind]

President of Belarus refused to call Russia a brotherly state

None other than our sworn partners paid him for this statement. On the education of Kolya-son!

[Eula]

Yes, no, but to study for daughters abroad.

[Dave36]

Ossetia recognized? Crimea recognized? DNI and LC? Sent at least doctors to the ATS? Well, and what kind of fraternal state? us as they want ..

[Halado Romane]

The recognition of these regions by the West does not matter for us. Everyone knows who it is! But such behavior on the part of Belarus, we must evaluate as betrayal. I’ll ask you just not to extend this attitude to all Belarusians. I have many relatives in Grodno and gypsies and Belarusians. I can say that the overwhelming majority of people there want to return to their great homeland and very painfully perceive the next such hostile passages of this gentleman!

[Dr. Sorge]

Yah? But Russia DNI and LC recognized? Yes? To Peter Alekseevich who supplies fuel, not Russia? Not? 5 years were given for the rearmament of the Armed Forces. And who gave? Old Man? Hardly...

[passerby]

Now, when Belarus can support itself, then in response to Russian claims it can justifiably ask the questions that you raised above, but for now, then either remove the cross or put on your pants.

Quote: Dr. Sorge

Yah? But Russia DNI and LC recognized? Yes? To Peter Alekseevich who supplies fuel, not Russia? Not? 5 years were given for the rearmament of the Armed Forces. And who gave? Old Man? Hardly...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: bystander

That’s when Belarus can support itself, then it’s in response to Russian claims with full justification, he will be able to ask those questions that you raised above,

And if you write like this: "Now, when ... (then there is a list of subsidized regions of the Russian Federation) they will be able to support themselves, then they ... Nice man! In our native country, as it turned out from statistics, only the Republic of Dagestan and the Vologda Oblast can support themselves. The largest subsidies in Moscow are 228 billion rubles. For comparison, this is the budget of the closing ten regions: the Republic of Mari El, the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania, the Republic of Tuva, the Karachay-Cherkess Republic, the Republic of Ingushetia, the Nenets Autonomous District, the Republic of Adygea, the Republic of Altai, the Republic of Kalmykia, the Jewish Autonomous Region.
No need to measure the relationship with money and reduce everything to selfish interests. Yes. Belarus will have a hard time without Russia. But you don’t have to tear it alive - it’s the same if you ask a person without which hand it will be easier for him.

[passerby]

You do not mix regions of Russia with another state. That Belarus will be another region of Russia, then the conversation will be different. Why mix everything in a heap. And then Lukooshenko decided to work well, he wants Russia to finance it as well as his region and at the same time wants to be the leader of an independent state. Here either you need to remove the cross or put on your underpants. And here is what you need to measure with money. For the $ 100 billion that fed the mustachioed cockroach in 10 years, it was possible to build at least 10 Ash-type submarines in these 25 years, and instead of these submarines that really raised the country's defenses, we only listened to Lukashenka’s idle talk. And now we are not fraternal peoples, since Russia does not want to give money anymore. Maybe now let's try the other way around? Belarus of Russia will give $ 10 billion over 100 years, and we will talk about “fraternal peoples and how we protect the eastern borders of Belarus?”

[Halado Romane]

Yah! You are a Doctor, you absolutely do not own the situation in this area, it is amazing how much! This can be explained if only by the fact that you live in a village in Belarus where, due to an incredible combination of circumstances, there are no other mass media other than a couple of Belarusian newspapers. Belarus is the main source of gas and diesel fuel supplies to Ukraine. Belarus produces fuel from Cheap Russian Oil and sells a significant part to Ukraine. Ukraine pays 1.5 times more than Russia. As for LDNR, I hasten to inform you that the republics exist only thanks to Russia. Almost completed their transition to Rosstandart in various fields. Recognize soon. Together with you we will rejoice at this.

[Eula]

It is you,. dear gypsies are far from reality, in Belarus in every almost deaf village and the Internet and telephone and newspapers and asphalt. And now you can scream that THEY AT THE ACCOUNT OF THE RUSSIAN PENSIONERS HAVE ALL DONE IT, but you just had to buy yachts, and your relatives are in the Gomel region, in Gomel.

[svp67]

As for oil prices, the situation changed three years ago. During these three years, we lost almost $ 4,5 billion due to the tax maneuver (in the oil industry of Russia). We understand that in the coming years, up to about 2024, we will incur another $ 10,5 billion in losses

Well, these figures are easily counted, but how much does Belarus get because it helps to circumvent sanctions and counter-sanctions?

[Dym71]

Quote: svp67

how much does Belarus get because it helps circumvent sanctions and counter-sanctions?

And this does not count, here again they help us!

[svp67]

Quote: Dym71

And this does not count, here again they help us!

Ah ..... but I thought they were just speculating.

[Dym71]

Quote: svp67

Ah ..... but I thought they were just speculating.

Belarusians wrote that our shopkeepers also rule this topic.

[svp67]

Quote: Dym71

Belarusians wrote that they also rule this topic among our traders

Yes, in FIG who steers, who receives money at customs, which state?

[My doctor]

Quote: svp67

Well, these figures are easily counted, but how much does Belarus get because it helps to circumvent sanctions and counter-sanctions?

All right, Lukashenko was lured by the customs union, guaranteeing the free movement of goods. I remember Lukashenko then raising customs rates on foreign cars told people to people that if not so then we ourselves will not be able to sell our mazes and belazs in Russia. As a result, Russia imported cars into the Republic of Belarus, while the maz was driven out of the Russian market. And so it is everywhere. The problem for Lukashenko is that for over 20 years he has not changed the structure of the economy.

[svp67]

Quote: MyVrach

As a result, Russia imported cars into the Republic of Belarus, while the maz was supplanted from the Russian market.

Wait, but MAZ is on sale with us, in any case, no one bothers to buy it, for the sake of interest, type "buy a new MAZ in Russia" and you will get thousands of offers. There is not much else, the price and serviceability of our KAMAZ is a little better, and those who have money they don’t need KAMAZ or MAZ, they buy European or American cars, and those who have very little money are Chinese ones. Gone are the days when there were only Soviet-made cars on the roads, now there are offers "for every pocket." In Yekaterinburg there are enough shops "Belarusian knitwear", "Belarusian products", a lot of your tools, household appliances. So, you shouldn't have it. And all this considering that we have Kazakhstan and, most importantly, China is very close

[My doctor]

The abundance of advertising is not an indicator, on the contrary, indicates a lack of sales. I think that the conversation is not turned in the right direction. Demand for various goods is mobile, which was in demand 30 years ago under the USSR and will now be unnecessary in such volumes. But for some reason Lukashenko doesn’t think so, clinging to non-modern production, thereby pushing the inevitable and exacerbating the negative consequences.

[svp67]

Quote: MyVrach

The abundance of advertising is not an indicator, on the contrary, indicates a lack of sales.

I have given you the reasons. Our KAMAZ outperforms MAZ on its own field. But that's not all. Previously, a lot of your equipment was purchased by the army, but after 2014, everything changed dramatically. "Ukrainian syndrome", when they renounced purchases of foreign equipment for the army, will spoil our relations for a long time.

[My doctor]

Quote: svp67

when they made a purchase of foreign equipment to the army,

All the right decision.

[svp67]

Quote: MyVrach

All the right decision.

But here the "MAZs" fell under the distribution, especially multi-wheeled vehicles.

[saturn.mmm]

But for some reason Lukashenko doesn’t think so

He does not know how to do it the other way without releasing the reins.

[passerby]

It’s not fraternal, to ask such questions. Shame on you?

Quote: svp67

As for oil prices, the situation changed three years ago. During these three years, we lost almost $ 4,5 billion due to the tax maneuver (in the oil industry of Russia). We understand that in the coming years, up to about 2024, we will incur another $ 10,5 billion in losses

Well, these figures are easily counted, but how much does Belarus get because it helps to circumvent sanctions and counter-sanctions?

[svp67]

Quote: bystander

Shame on you?

And I'm in partnership

[ANCIENT]

Deniska -the name of the country please write as you need -Russia -Do not disgrace. ..

[ODERVIT]

AG all-in? And for ours, all are brothers, even "non-brothers". The mourners, with an outstretched hand, completely lost their shores.

[Vadim Zhivov]

As always .... LET MONEY!

[Device]

And in Russia Lukash has not been taken for a brother for a long time. He is a type of brother, a type of crest.

[sir_obs]

Interestingly, at what prices do they sell theirs to us?
If, as in Smolensk, then his words make sense, but if not, then what is the conversation about.
And so again they’ll let everyone out for resale.

[kitt409]

Do we really need such brothers?
or does he want us to be more expensive than we supplied him?
Interrupted ...
Tired already - and ours, and your ....

[Nychego]

What, "stab in the back" again?
Is it not time for our people in power to look in the mirror, otherwise the face may be crooked, and they all around are looking for enemies and traitors.

It is necessary to be able to build relationships, and not to rattle everything that is possible at any convenient and not very case.

[lelik613]

Relatives - until noon ...

[kind]

Belarus is sold not by Belarusians, but Lukashenko. The people of Belarus are very, very good!

[Russia]

If we did not know him, then of course. If you are going to a meeting, then not everything is so neglected, there will be a breakthrough.

[ANCIENT]

How purely in Lukashenka’s way to be friends with Russia at the expense of Russia itself! A kind of unobtrusively pseudo-polite version of milking Russia.

[Dr. Sorge]

Before publishing this, one should read the official press release before the end.
“We have always emphasized the importance of this interaction. The comprehensive nature of our relations is of great importance not only for Belarus, but also for Russia. They are built on a systematic and, most importantly, planned basis,” the President said.
And the fact that the liberals tore us apart is obvious.

[Eula]

Again, Sorge is trying to save the country, unlike those who just want to get cheap popularity on the keyboard. And again it will be in flight (

[VeteranVSSSR]

Vlad-s !!! Filter the bazaar, not with your pantyosh apricots, Remember there is such a state the Republic of Belarus !!! and not you and not your broomstick to shake the air.
As you fall in your comments, after such a statement, I will not sit on the same field with you (and like you) on the same field cf (sorry, correct a big need).
What kind of people on the forum ??? Jah !!!

[viking1703]

Oh, how do you local sang - atu his atu. You all wanted an old man for president ... Che so? Have you gotten enough?
As soon as Lukashenko began to normally defend the interests of his country, without pleasing his neighbor, he’s immediately worthless, you gas and oil at world prices, etc.
And so it turns out that as soon as a country begins to defend its interests, then for the Russian Federation and its citizens = this country is immediately an outcast.
So, maybe Belarus simply joins the EU and NATO, so that you would calm down and be left alone against the whole world. And everything goes to this - until you begin to respect your partners, brothers, etc., it will be so with you that there are only enemies around.

[ohka]

Sorry - their interests and a neighbor's pocket?

[viking1703]

no one gets into your pocket. You calculate how much the Russian Federation saves on transit through Belarus.

[Dym71]

Quote: viking1703

You calculate how much the Russian Federation saves on transit through Belarus.

And no matter how much it is, I’m 100% sure that transit for Belarus is a profitable business.

[Dym71]

Quote: viking1703

So maybe just Belarus to join the EU and NATO

Why so tear the fifth point, the Pole doesn’t want a soul in you, will accept better than relatives, right, Pagon?

[viking1703]

So what? It is possible to Poland, why is it worse than the Russian Federation?

[Dym71]

Quote: viking1703

So what? It is possible to Poland, why is it worse than the Russian Federation?

But what is worse there, after the reunion to "Polish from Mozha to Mozha" is a stone's throw away, and at what price will the Polish gazok be? Have you made any inquiries?

[Azis]

It is necessary for ALL to join the EU and NATO so that they burst ... Do you think there will be friends, brothers, equality, gas, as in Smolensk?

[viking1703]

Therefore, no one wants to join NATO, etc. Belarus wants equal relations with the Russian Federation, and your leadership constantly twists the hands of the Old Man. Yes, Lukashenko is not a gift, many people really dislike him in Belarus, but looking at your leaders, you have to admit that Lukashenko is just a lamb.

[Azis]

Yes, "ours" are not lambs at all, but where are they? Remember the peak of sanctions against Belarus, when the dad was a "dictator" for the West - it was then that the integration processes between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus began more or less. Equality is probably all the same in a single state. And all the same, someone should be "more equal". And now water is pouring into someone else's mill precisely because some elites are afraid of losing their "independence."

[Bull Terrier]

what he did ? began to defend what? Do you understand what you write? year 2014. Russia imposes sanctions and closes borders for goods of many countries. and here, as if by magic, Belarus becomes almost the world leader in the purchase of food. many points grow 40-80 times. billions of dollars. oil supplies at our prices and Belarus is becoming the world leader in the supply of fuel oil and reagent. ten times. stealing stupid taxes from us for years pushing oil products on fake papers. then we started it? he began to block it all, and now these songs began. and do not distort. that amount of subsidies for interest-free supply loans at domestic prices would be enough for 6-8 of our regions. in excess.

[viking1703]

AND? So your network is trading, and with the tacit consent of the leadership and buy sanctions. There would be no demand - there would be no supply. Or isn’t it?
Not a single loan from Belarus has been given for nothing that you grind? You are carrying some kind of game. All loans of the Russian Federation were guaranteed by something, than read for yourself.

[Bull Terrier]

we are talking about government policy that allowed merchants to do this. Does the state of Belarus prevent this? yeah shaz. I didn’t just say that. as an example, according to open supplying oil at our prices, what would you know for the 2011-2015 budget of the Russian Federation did not receive more than 23 yards of American money. remind me of the budget of Belarus? Do you know what is even more fun? 6 million tons there at the request of the Republic of Belarus delivered 18 or more. prepositions were just darkness. do you imagine the size of these amounts at all? much more then? but dad I look and this is not enough. he wants even less price.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bull Terrier

we are talking about government policy that allowed merchants to do this. Does the state of Belarus prevent this?

And the policy of the Russian Federation allows networkers to buy "sanctions"? Who should monitor compliance with the sanctions - Belarusians ???

[Bull Terrier]

they are constantly checked. I know personally. fined very harshly. check a lot. restaurants even hammer.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bull Terrier

they are constantly checked

So what's the problem? Some commerce sells sanctions to other commerce, after which the latter sell it to consumers. Who should monitor compliance with the sanctions imposed by Russia - the government of Belarus? Turn on the logic! (If you have such a function )

[Bull Terrier]

which I advise you. then let them not demand preferences, like the prices of Russian people, if they don’t want to observe our interests as a union state. relationships are movement towards each other and not life at the expense of others. this is called differently. The Russian president has never said a bad word. holds out his hand all the time. helps on all issues. and what does the dad do? only m hear for years give give give! We have an open border and you do visa-free travel with a bunch of countries and ruin the entire system. we have an open customs office and you begin to haul goods from around the world stupidly for sale here. and to make it clearer, I have parents from Gomel and Minsk. a brother was born there. a bunch of relatives live. I visit once a year. Father’s ashes to bury in Gomel in the spring I’ll go with the whole family. Belarus is not a stranger to me.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bull Terrier

then let them not demand preferences, like the prices of Russian people, if they don’t want to observe our interests as a union state.

Logical question ( ) -Why confuse the personal with the collective farm? Belarusian businessmen do not violate Belarusian laws. And so that official Belarus monitors compliance with Russian sanctions, you need either an official request or a personal request. As far as I know, neither one nor the other was. Therefore, let the customs understand.

[Bull Terrier]

Do you want to remind the IMF conditions for a loan that the Old Man asked for a year probably back? asked for 3 yards? and we just gave it all. without conditions like a refusal from state regulation of prices for housing and communal services. but as soon as the money needs to be returned, that dance begins. every year begins. Do you want another example? In September 2016, the IMF estimated Russia's total support to the Belarusian economy at $ 106 billion only for the period 2005-2015, or about $ 9,7 billion per year. Over the years, the volume of “total net support” from Russia ranged from 11 to 27% of the Belarusian GDP follows from IMF data. but from the age of 16 they began to tighten the nuts. and dad completely suffered.

[Bull Terrier]

Direct investments (FDI) of Russia in the Belarusian economy occupy from 57 to 64% of total foreign investments in the country, according to the National Bank of Belarus for 2010-2015. At the same time, Russian FDI in Belarus is declining, the statistics of the Russian Central Bank show: net accumulated investments peaked in 2010 ($ 5,6 billion), and as of October 1, 2016 amounted to $ 3,4 billion.

Official Russian statistics underestimate the volume of investments in Belarus, says the Center for Integration Studies of the Eurasian Development Bank (EDB), which conducts its own monitoring of mutual direct investment in the CIS. If, according to the Central Bank, the amount of accumulated investments from Russia to Belarus in 2015 amounted to $ 3,6 billion, then the EDB monitoring shows the figure of $ 8,3 billion. The Bank, among other things, analyzes corporate reporting and media reports; in addition, unlike the Russian regulator, it takes into account investments through offshore and other “transshipment bases” of capital. The Central Bank indicator includes exchange rate, market revaluations and other changes.

Belarus is the leader in Russian inbound investment among the countries of the Eurasian Economic Union. However, this was mainly due to the purchase by Gazprom of Beltransgaz (now Gazprom Transgaz Belarus), for which the concern spent $ 5 billion between 2007 and 2011. Other significant Russian projects are investments in the subsidiaries of VEB and MTS, in the Transneft trunk pipeline and the Mozyr Oil Refinery.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bull Terrier

However, this was mainly due to the purchase by Gazprom of Beltransgaz (now Gazprom Transgaz Belarus), for which the concern spent $ 5 billion from 2007 to 2011

Is it okay that the market value of Beltransgaz is an order of magnitude higher, and Russia (read Gazprom) bought it almost twice as cheap? This is a fact, and a confirmed one.

[Bull Terrier]

let's say. and why didn’t they sell at a higher price since it is so valuable?) I can evaluate my apartment at 20 million, but they still won’t buy it at a price higher than 10)

[Bull Terrier]

Under the IMF, up to 90% of Russia's economic support to Belarus comes from hidden subsidies for the supply of gas, oil and oil products. Head of the Economics and Finance sector of the Institute of Energy and Finance Sergey Agibalov estimates that the total volume of Russian subsidies to Belarus with preferential energy supplies since the early 2000s amounted to almost $ 100 billion, or more than 200% of Belarusian GDP for 2016. Subsidies for gas in 2001–2016 amounted to $ 49,4 billion, for oil - $ 46,9 billion, follows from Agibalov’s calculations for RBC. And unlike loans that are returned with interest, oil and gas benefits for Belarus are irrevocable indirect losses to the Russian budget. “This is not money that has been thrown away for us - it’s a calculated step in calculating the future result,” Vladimir Putin assured at the end of February.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Under the IMF, up to 90% of Russia's economic support to Belarus comes from hidden subsidies for the supply of gas, oil and oil products.

Do you have the same market relations with your relatives? Now I have 4 daughters. and the eldest only remembers me when she needs something. this is the situation for many. But she does not cease to be my child, and I help her whenever possible. And what he rarely recalls is - well. the bird feathered.
And we with Belarusians (and with Ukrainians) are one nation, and the wedges between us drive both from outside and from inside. And some not far-off (here on the forum), pennies that the oligarchs didn’t receive were considered personal losses, and accused Belarus of parasiting. Fools, if Russia loses Belarus as an ally, it will definitely lose more than Belarus. Moreover. that in the event of termination of discounts on oil products in the Republic of Belarus, no one of the present improvements in life in the Russian Federation will see! Just some oligarchs will buy another yacht or villa in London, Dubai, etc.

[Bull Terrier]

I didn’t start the conversation. I’m just responding to the post that as soon as the Old Man began to defend his interests, he was bad right away. I show that he is at least ungrateful.

[CAT BAIYUN]

It's simple, you’re our creative .. If Russia wanted a complete and absolute cut-off of sanctions supplies, then you would introduce a ban at the EAEU level - well, if this abbreviation says something to you, I hope you will understand. But no .... They didn’t enter, although they could do it without any problems. The question is: for what reason? Do not remind me where exactly the money for the sold sanction appears? Do not know? Well, take an interest in who exactly this supply channel is beneficial to. Where exactly is the main retail.
This is about sanction ....

that amount of subsidies for interest-free supply loans at domestic prices would be enough for 6-8 of our regions. with excess.

By the way, Belarus regularly pays all its debts and loans. But in your 6-8 regions, while you don’t transfer the entire shusher, everything will be small. until you get pens in your pants in your pants (Sakhalin) ... Yes, delve into the net. how many budgets do crooks have left per year? How much is exported? So if anyone you steal globally, it’s definitely not the Belarusians ....
Your nickname is a sight for sore eyes .... a smart, apparently of the same level. Said "fas" and you are happy to try.
I beg you - do not bother to answer.

[Bull Terrier]

not be rude. I advise you to dig about debts in the recent press and refusals to pay for gas on debts. What does the EAEU have to do with it? The Union State of Belarus has specific agreements with the Russian Federation and, at the level of other participants in that organization, has wild preferences in everything that is possible. about theft again I repeat, the goods go to Belarus. receive left documents from the Republic of Belarus and bring them from the Republic of Belarus. nationality of commerce is on my side. Does someone check them? someone at the level of government bodies is engaged in them? trying to stop the flow of these goods? Shchaz.

[Ru_Na]

Well, please come in, just ask yourself, will the EU and NATO help you in the same way that Russia has helped you all these years!

[viking1703]

That’s the whole trouble - you all consider Belarus to be accustomed to the Russian Federation. And then there’s nothing to talk about.

[passerby]

And what's wrong?

[Tank hard]

Quote: viking1703

That’s the whole trouble - you all consider Belarus to be accustomed to the Russian Federation. And then there’s nothing to talk about.

On the avatar you have a flag that is used by nationalists in Belarus, no?

[viking1703]

I know ... Then what? Our oppas are not popular with us ... I don’t respect them the same way, and po to them. But Pagonia should not be associated only with the BNR during the German occupation, this coat of arms and flag have a richer history.

[Tank hard]

Quote: viking1703

I know ... Then what? Our oppas are not popular with us ... I don’t respect them the same way, and po to them. But Pagonia should not be associated only with the BNR during the German occupation, this coat of arms and flag has a richer history

Is it like that?
[media = https: //news.tut.by/society/585094.html]
"Belarus of Polish Culture"?

[Alexga]

Well, what’s your state flag ???

[passerby]

It would be better if he joins either the EU or NATO, than he will always milk Russia. I don’t see a big difference between the NATO bases in the Baltic states and Poland and for example near Minsk, but for the $ 100 billion Russia fed the dad for 10 years, you could have built at least 25 submarines of the Yasen type. That would be a contribution to the defense capability of Russia.

Quote: viking1703

Oh, how do you local sang - atu his atu. You all wanted an old man for president ... Che so? Have you gotten enough?
As soon as Lukashenko began to normally defend the interests of his country, without pleasing his neighbor, he’s immediately worthless, you gas and oil at world prices, etc.
And so it turns out that as soon as a country begins to defend its interests, then for the Russian Federation and its citizens = this country is immediately an outcast.
So, maybe Belarus simply joins the EU and NATO, so that you would calm down and be left alone against the whole world. And everything goes to this - until you begin to respect your partners, brothers, etc., it will be so with you that there are only enemies around.

[viking1703]

It feels like you are a naive Chukchi youth - your defense industry will not see this money.
Again - where did you get this amount of $ 100 billion? Have you come up with yourself and believed?

[passerby]

You have already been given a link to RBC here. And of course, the military-industrial complex will not see it anymore, since Lukashenko has already devoured them.

[solzh]

Completely "dad" went mad. It's time for him to give up his place to others, those who are a real brother of Russia ...

[Dym71]

Quote: solzh

Completely "dad" went mad.

And do not tell me, until recently, this "cry of Yaroslavna" helped But Father very much.

[VeteranVSSSR]

Abrezany?

[solzh]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

Abrezany?

Did they do anything bad to you?

[VeteranVSSSR]

No, and who is left?

[Mouse]

oh well ... tomorrow it will swear eternal love ... The fish is looking for where it’s deeper, the man - where it is better ...

[Thunderbolt]

During these three years, we lost almost $ 4,5 billion due to a tax maneuver (in the Russian oil sector).

This is a penny. For all the years of the so-called. of the "union state" /// in quotes and with a small letter /// Russia has lost over a hundred billion in investments and gifts in Lukashenka's economy. And now we are not brothers ...? Never mind, get another loan and make up.

[viking1703]

You don’t imagine yourself an economist - can you give specific figures? Or so anyhow blurt out. If the Russian Federation threw 100 billion, then we would ride like cheese in oil. And so these are all your conjectures and words not confirmed by anything.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: viking1703

You don’t imagine yourself an economist - can you give specific figures? Or so anyhow blurt out.

There may be numbers, but why do you need them, dear brother?

What are the real scales of economic dependence of Belarus on Russia? “If you look at the figures presented by the IMF, then you will see impressive figures of hidden and direct support for the Belarusian economy,” Putin gave a tip at the end of February at a press conference in Bishkek. Really, The IMF in September 2016 estimated the total support of the Belarusian economy from Russia at $ 106 billion only for the period 2005-2015, or about $ 9,7 billion a year (see infographic). In different years, the volume of “total net support” from Russia varied from 11 to 27% of Belarusian GDP, follows from the IMF data provided by RBC. But it is clear that in recent years, Russian aid to the Belarusian economy has been declining, and this may partly explain Lukashenko’s latest discontent.

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/02/04/2017/58e026879a79471d6c8aef30

[Adimius38]

Lukashenko is right. Who will say about brotherhood now? none. Both in Moscow and in Minsk. And for the most part, wine in Moscow. So much negativity was poured by Russian media into Belarus. So you can not blaspheme with whom you want to be an ally.

[ratan524]

Is that how they took it and reviled steel? Or maybe they began to "vilify" (I don't really see this, but there were indignations and there are) after 2008 and 2014 ??? After a clear and unambiguous betrayal, which showed the full value of this so-called. "strategic ally" ....

[Tank hard]

Quote: Adimius38

Lukashenko is right. Who will say about brotherhood now? none. Both in Moscow and in Minsk. And for the most part, wine in Moscow.

Well, yes ... Under the USSR, the Russian Federal Republic fed the national republics, now it feeds, but is it all your fault?

[Adimius38]

firstly, you need to look at these things differently, Russia will not support Belarus, then why does it need Russia at all, will turn its gaze towards the west. And then what? and then get Ukraine 2. Do you want this? In this world, everyone feeds someone to achieve their interests. This is world politics. It has always been that way. And the USSR did so to consolidate and achieve its strategic geopolitical positions in the world. And in Chechnya it was exactly the same, we restored peace and order at the same time poured billions so that it was quiet and calm. And Belarus is our strategically important ally and to keep it in the direct interests of Russia's national security. Therefore, they fed and we will feed (in every possible way to support) for that they are allied relations. It doesn’t happen when you want to eat a fish and where to sit somewhere, you have to pay for everything.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Adimius38

firstly, you need to look at these things differently, Russia will not support Belarus, then why does it need Russia at all, will turn its gaze towards the west. And then what? and then get Ukraine 2.

Rather, the province of Poland, too enthusiastically, many citizens of Belarus look in that direction (and where else should they look next?). A country in poverty, except that Minsk is a beautiful postcard ... Russia is also to blame for this? And Ukraine 2, as you put it, will first of all be received by citizens of Belarus ...

Quote: Adimius38

And in Chechnya it was exactly the same, we restored peace and order at the same time poured billions so that it was quiet and calm.

Do you personally, or what?

Quote: Adimius38

Therefore, they fed and we will feed (in every possible way to support) for that they are allied relations.

Feed at your own expense, I have many other plans.

Quote: Adimius38

It doesn’t happen when you want to eat a fish and where to sit somewhere, you have to pay for everything.

Here I agree. Russia paid, now Ukraine pays, everyone pays, for stupidity in general you have to pay dearly.

[Alexga]

Dear, I have posted below the data for 1 year 90 who fed whom.

[Nitochkin]

Tsybulyu dig, comrade Lukashenko. I completely lost my conscience.

[Adimius38]

a vivid example of fraternity.

[Ru_Na]

The cunning Lukashenko all the time asks for discounts on resources, and when Russia needs support, at least with respect to the same Crimea, the leader of Belarus quickly hides somewhere in the bushes!

[taiga2018]

in vain, oh in vain Lukashenka spits in the well from which he always draws the "secret" of his country's welfare ...

[Incvizitor]

Not a friend, not an enemy, but ...

[Mentat]

Do not forget that Lukashenko is a politician, i.e. a representative of a shift of elective power, and not some kind of icon or higher standard. Relations between the two peoples will remain and will continue after Lukashenko resigned from his post. He, in the end, is aging. And our people have centuries of kinship and a common history. Therefore, it is strange on the part of Alexander Grigoryevich, IMHO, to take upon himself such a burden and try to determine in his own person the relations between the two peoples.

Yes, and do not go too far. It is impossible to say that Russia did not and does not help Belarus. But isn’t it hard for Russia now? Is it really impossible to resolve these issues in a different tone and not publicly, but personally, if something goes wrong with the economy or something else has accumulated? With such demarches, Lukashenko simply complicates his personal position in the negotiations, does he help the country with this?

[ratan524]

Lukashenko ... a representative of the electoral shift ... How ridiculous!

[irazum]

Lukashenka just doesn't want to be "Crimea No. 2", why is it incomprehensible?

[ratan524]

And what, have you already suggested? )))

[irazum]

Perhaps we do not know what is there "under the carpet." ...

[Incvizitor]

If, as a yanyk will be on 2 chairs and flirt with maydauns, then it may be "Ukraine number 2" and then with all the resulting "Crimea number 2".

[Alexga]

Kindergarten. People, do you seriously think that Russian business and the Russian state are one and the same? Belarus has no special complaints about the state, therefore, Russian bases in Belarus pay the same as ordinary subjects in Belarus. But with business there are other conversations. And believe me, this has nothing to do with "eating up" the inhabitants of Russia. Read the history of recent years. As for the enemies, look for them in Russia, how can it be that Russian business has increased in recent years in Ukraine.

[ochakow703]

Here, the Old Man is constantly stirring up water, trying to bend his line, but he does not think that the Americans are keeping their finger on the pulse, and as soon as his pulse jumps ... then the color revolution in a fraternal (partner) country immediately, and sometimes in Rostov no.

[Alexga]

In my memory, they tried to clearly make a color revolution, in 2006 and 2010. The issue did not go through, although there were enough assistants from both Ukraine and, alas, from Russia there were many who wanted to, with tents, weapons, sharpening, etc. This is only about those who were picked up at the border in the forests.

[PATHhuK]

I wonder how long he will keep afloat without support and "buns" from Russia? In a couple of years they will probably eat it.

[ochakow703]

Well, you flatter him.

[Adimius38]

and it will become easier for you if it is devoured and Petro Poroshenko comes number two with advisers from Washington

[PATHhuK]

Where did I write that it will become easier or harder for someone? Throw it a little.

[ohka]

Quote: AlexGa

Russian bases in Belarus pay as well as ordinary entities in Belarus

Can I clarify which bases and for what they pay?

[Alexga]

Missile defense station in Gantsevichi and a submarine communications station in Vileyka. And they pay for water, gas and electricity like any military unit of the Belarusian army.

[ratan524]

Bases ... Hmmm ...

[Sars]

Lukashenko Russian media specifically expose a clown.
I would recommend everyone to travel from the Smolensk region to Belarus, to feel the difference in systems, so to speak.

[Adimius38]

but I would advise less diarrhea against Belarus, and then there will be not only union but partnership. Want Ukraine 2? Firewood has already been broken with Ukraine, that now we are looking at each other with enemies, so now you are daring with Belarus.

[ShM05]

Those who sit in the Kremlin and in the government do not need anything except pumping resources from the bowels of the country, they do not even need alliances or associations, they do not even need their own people, which speaks about Ukraine, Belarus, the LPR, the DPR. Lukashenko perfectly understands who rules in Russia, that the oligarchy is ruled by everyone, well, now they will unite and what? They will privatize and stole it in their pockets, go bankrupt, he knows this very well. Here, many say so that Belarusians set market prices for them, as if the people in Russia own resources, fat cats are crushed by greed, and they will make concessions for the sake of a union state.

[viking1703]

In-in ... and then Lukashenko sang it, Lukashenko is .....

[Alexga]

I add, in Belarus, thieves are in prison, and killers are shot!

[Adimius38]

quite right. The Russian oligarchy from the big bell tower, as well as the Russian people, especially the country's allies. Alas, the country is moving by leaps and bounds towards the fact that Russia will not have allies, and when this oligarchy is overthrown from the country, we will be left at the bottom and will not know what to do. Since these "comrades" broke firewood quite a bit.

[wooja]

so it’s not enough to call him president anymore ...,

[Cradle]

Lukashenka reminded that the Russian authorities promised to compensate for the loss to Minsk, but the promises, according to the Belarusian leader, did not fulfill.
+++ So the mustachioed cockroach has already exceeded them, due to lobsters, shrimps and oysters, it’s bad with memory ...

[ratan524]

The best shrimp in the Russian Federation from the Belarusian seas!

[Conductor]

New Year, Santa Claus red nose. Maybe he played hockey without a helmet.

[Azazelo]

A campaign at the dad took his means of sitting on the throne ... The poor lad was upset. As they said in our draft board - if you turn to us, then we will turn the same. Lukash wants Maidan, please ....

[Million]

For the Russian people, his government is also far from fraternal ..

[Vladimir Sharafutdinov]

Lukashenko is a serious uncle. He doesn’t talk empty talk, let alone lie.

[APASUS]

Lukashenko considers supplying banderlogs in the ATO with Russian diesel fuel as a normal business, but he was suspended from the crane and was immediately offended! We must go to Washington to ask for diesel fuel for resale, they will definitely not be refused there

[atos_kin]

After reading the outraged comments, I come to the conclusion that all their "writers" are the owners of oil and gas in the Russian Federation. It is they who will receive less profit from Belarus. Therefore, such a "righteous" anger at the Old Man, who dared to call them (owners) non-brothers. Only they are not given to understand that "non-brothers", or rather "strangers", have occupied the Kremlin for a long time. And these strangers are tearing Russia apart, hiding behind indignant "writers", thereby preserving their profits.

[lopvlad]

Quote: atos_kin

They will receive less profit from Belarus

they take all their lost profits by increasing the price of gas and oil products for the population of Russia.
Or do you think the support of Belarus fell on the shoulders of Russian oligarchs and officials? .No, this support lies on the shoulders of the Russian people. The people do not mind supporting friendly countries but not those in which the authorities say they will fight the Russian world. And we must voice our demands and openly declare for a long time that the former Soviet republics are a zone of Russian influence and not chewing snot and waiting for the former well-fed friendly regime to attack destroying our military, bombing on our settlements.
As time has shown, Russia does not have red lines and therefore there is nothing to indicate to the West. Red lines are designated zones of state influence outside territorial borders. Actions or, more precisely, inaction of the Russian authorities have shown that Russia does not have such red lines.

[www3]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Dym71

Belarusians wrote that they also rule this topic among our traders

Yes, in FIG who steers, who receives money at customs, which state?

I’ll tell you one secret, and so Russia receives exactly 90% of the customs duties in the CU! )))
interesting smuggling is obtained - for which the customs receives the Russian Federation))

[Hypersound]

Little Lukashenko defies a new superpower ?! Oooo, not a dweller Old Man. Here the Pundos president himself is a protege of the Kremlin, there’s nothing to catch small Belarus at all

[lopvlad]

All these outbreaks and bends from the fact that despite the fact that they disconnected from Russia in the early 90s and turned into small states with the corresponding influence and capabilities, they still have not realized that they are no longer part of the power of the great empire, but small a state that itself will not survive in any way.
This, incidentally, is partly to blame for Russia, which itself exaggerates their significance.

[hrulevv]

For a quarter of a century, similar declarations have only one analogy of the Russian principalities and Batu at the frontiers ...

[lopvlad]

Quote: hrulevv

the analogy is only one Russian principalities and Batu at the borders ...

an analogy to exaggerating the meaning and kissing in a hickey is today's Ukraine where on the territory of the lands of the Russian principality they arrange genocide of the local population, prohibit the Russian language and persecution of the church.
And on the land there Batuy placed his heralds and think about building their bases. And the most bitter thing is that while Bandera’s code developed and intensified, we fed and poured money.

The analogue of my statement is the example of the USA and the EU when the USA not only does not give money but also raises money, where they vote for all the US initiatives and the ideology of the Western world reigns in the media.

[pvv113]

a few days ago in the Belarusian media ("Nasha Niva") with reference to unnamed sources

In Belarus, the same liberoid media as in Russia "Echo" and the like

[Antor]

Dad has completely lost the shores, so extorting free oil prices is just a song!!!! I just want to say about our effective managers - you yourself created a problem for Russia by creating this incomprehensible “union state”, it is unclear in what and for what purpose!!! Good intentions lead to hell and with Lukashenko this is a clear example of such an alliance both in politics (he didn’t recognize anything, neither Crimea, nor Abkhazia, nor South Ossetia, etc., he imagines himself to be an independent emperor, why should he support us in this , but how can we provide oil and gas at least at prices in the Smolensk region, and if not, then we are no longer brothers....!!!???
It is unclear how long this circus will continue - after all, such relations with Belarus in the person of its president are simply a road to nowhere for Russia.

[atos_kin]

Quote: Antor

such relations with Belarus in the person of its president are simply a road to nowhere for Russia.

If your last name is not Sechin or Miller, then a slight clarification of the phrase is necessary: ​​“such relations with Belarus in the person of the president of Russia are simply a road to nowhere”

[rayruav]

Well, I finally said it, because you either like chamomile or you don’t like it

[Reserve buildbat]

Is he unhappy with the price of gas? Let him buy it at the mattress store. The sixth fleet will accompany gas carriers to the shores of Belarus

[viking1703]

Oh... how funny.... But if NATO missiles, for example, are installed in Khomsk, will it be just as funny?
That's not even the point. In the Russian Federation, gas and oil have owners and these are not the people of Russia. So why are you so worried? whatever daddy begged for, he didn’t beg for - it makes you neither warm nor cold.

[strannik1985]

Yeah, some people were already laughing before the civil war.

[Reserve buildbat]

Let him go with his blackmail through the forest and field. This kept woman is quite expensive for Russia. And regarding NATO missiles, do you think they are so “alternatively gifted” that they will place missiles within reach of almost MLRS? This is just how Belarusians jump to the Maidan. And who will get worse?

[lopvlad]

Quote: viking1703

So why are you so worried?

so that Ukrainian and other weapons directed against Russia are not fueled with this free oil and oil products. Neither Miller nor Sechen should die in the war against equipment filled with diesel fuel and gasoline at domestic Russian prices, but the common people of Russia should die.

Quote: viking1703

But if, for example, we put NATO missiles in Khomansk

Do you think that if you sell everything to Belarus at domestic Russian prices, then this will be an iron-clad guarantee that there will be no missiles in Khotimsk?

Everywhere in the world they value strength and not weakness. Russia does not show decisiveness because, despite everything, a significant part of the elite has not lost hope of joining the Western world.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: LSA57

Quote: Snail N9

what is "thank you"? - "we are, after all, brothers" ....

this "brother" Crimea Russian has not yet recognized

Well, okay - he was afraid that the West would impose the lifted sanctions on him again, and with an increase at that. Selling over-the-limit oil products to the Ukronazis at European prices, receiving low prices from the Russian Federation, is all good, but taking the path of rapprochement with the Russian Federation is a loss of independence, oh, how it hurts him.

[samarin1969]

If A.G. Lukashenko is talking about the state apparatus, then he is right. There are no brothers here. “Optimization” not only overwhelmed the spending on the “electorate”, but also cut off the “allied” “flash mob” of the Kremlin. The elites of the Russian Federation and Belarus are only concerned about the degree of their autonomy in global business. What kind of “agreements” are there, Mnuchin is breaking all the schemes and harbors.

[Ros 56]

Luka, as usual, is crying about losing OUR money from his pocket. Well, how many Russians can you rob and cry that is not enough. Everyone was so eager to be independent, they finally became and... flocked to Russia, some to work, and some to get cheaper raw materials. Well, it’s probably time to have a conscience or do they only apply such a concept to us?

[IvanT]

Just like they took away the current from the boobs, it’s not like brothers right away

[23424636]

Relations with Belarus must be protected like nothing, but the boys, the cosmopolitan accountants, clearly see Luka as an enemy who cleared the Agdian stables of Belarus from the executors of foreign influence, which is very difficult for them to admit, having gone through the Gaidar school and the Red Tolik technical school.. It’s worth remembering how Dima’s deputies groaned when Luka took Baumgertner by the scruff of the neck for the Belaruskali scam. GDP of course lets in these moseks to keep Luka on his toes, but at the same time you have to be very careful not to repeat the trick with Yanukovych, who, due to the inattention and betrayal of Zurabov, betrayed himself to the Jews Levochkin and Firtash and left the country to be desecrated by the Dnieper and Bessarabian Jews to the tune of the State Department

[watchmaker]

I knew that Old Man was no Belarusian! He is one of those who, mortally wounded in a trench, will sell the remaining cartridges to his comrades! Tymoshenko, Poroshenko, Lukashenko and similar bloodsuckers! Why didn’t Putin immediately ask Communism in Belarus to do at the expense of Russia so that it could be called a fraternal people?

[beeper]

Well, is he just like that fool from the Kyiv Euromaidan??!
In March 2014, after the annexation of Crimea to Russia, the presidents of Belarus and Kazakhstan, for obvious reasons, became “alarmed,” which immediately became very noticeable in their somewhat wild “disengagement rhetoric” and the sharp awakening of local “nationalist manifestations”...
And this “national process went” the way the overseas “partners” needed it - they even stopped calling AGL “the last dictator of Europe” and began regularly throwing pleasant “cookies” (just like the “cunning” Yanukovych, at one time, he also believed and began to act as he was “recommended” or “advised” by his personal Fashington “supervisor” at the American Embassy! This quickly led the unlucky “poor fellow” VFYA to the brink of the abyss - if not for the Russian generosity of VVP, who at the last moment saved this seasoned Judaizer, Vitya would have been hanged for display on the Maidan - and rightly so - “there was no need to follow Fashington’s lead and flirt with his Nazis”! )" counting on reciprocal curtseys... and, alas, the Fashingtonites were not mistaken at all - "lost shores" Luka became him, suddenly "loving" the hitherto "unshaked" one, his "sending signals",... here is another one " "bell" from Minsk - verbally "unbrotherly" (but immediately "justified" and "turned the arrows" to Moscow, they say, "the words are not mine, I’m just parroting other people’s “expressions”, which seem to have been heard by someone somewhere once and to me, the gullible one, anonymously told in my ear “?!)”.??!
There’s nothing to vandalize here, in gypsy style (like a gypsy to a gypsy ) I’ll tell him “how it will be” - his pro-Western entourage will betray the AGL, and he himself, persecuted by the pro-American Natsik-quasi-“Litvins” raised (like Yanyk!) and other “svyatomy zmagars”, will be saved in a “non-brotherly country”, but where Moreover, such “used” prez will be accepted and protected from Washington “users”, if not in Mother Russia??!

[ratan524]

Yes, he’s already got his eye on a place under Sochi where he’ll be holed up. Maybe he’ll write a book about himself as a wise man...

[Victorio]

What is the point of posting such material, to warm up the local public?

[acetophenone]

I’ll get angry at the whole world, I’ll lock myself up in a monastery! (c)

[Alexga]

Quote: Vladyka Ecumenical

Remember there is such a state as the Republic of Belarus!!!

Don't mind it. Not everyone has recovered since the 90s. The experience of Ukraine has not yet taught us. In Russian Belarus. Officially the Republic of Belarus. It’s okay that Hungary is Ugorshchina. And no one declares war on Ukraine.

[AshiSolo]

Every year it’s the same thing =))) The issue of gas prices is raised, a wave of news and articles about what kind of “unbrother” Old Man is and in general it’s time to tie up this gimmick. There is excitement, everyone is discussing, plans are being made. And every year after that, the meeting, hugs, words about “achieved understanding” subsides absolutely without noise until the next year. And no one gets bored =) The advantages are abundant, the topic is fertile, the articles are in demand and paid for. Chic modern! And it’s been like this for the fifth or sixth year already.

[akm8226]

How sad they all are, however, when Russia stops feeding them. All these dwarfs immediately take the position of being offended and begin to roll out complaints, they say, I won’t call them brothers... another one arises, they say, I can’t look at the map of Crimea... so I still need to give them a knee in the ass... well, I HAVE TO! !

[AshiSolo]

Carefully study what the EAEU is. And such populist posts will immediately stop appearing. If, of course, you are able to think and analyze.

[irazum]

Have you finished your game... or FINISHED your game?

[Yodzakura]

And yours and ours will dance for a penny, Crimea would at least be recognized by the smart-ass

[Captain45]

Lukashenko:
As for oil prices, the situation changed three years ago. During these three years, we lost almost $ 4,5 billion due to the tax maneuver (in the oil industry of Russia). We understand that in the coming years, up to about 2024, we will incur another $ 10,5 billion in losses (C)
Has Russia lost anything? It’s still strange to hear such statements from the head ALLIANCE states. Even the USA and Britain, being allies during WWII, did not allow such public statements addressed to the USSR, a coalition ally.

[AshiSolo]

Didn’t you think that we were losing with the conditions and requirements of the EAEU??? No, either let’s get into the lineup without any frills, or there’s nothing to post without thinking about such things.

[Captain45]

Quote: AshiSolo

Didn’t you think that we were losing with the conditions and requirements of the EAEU???

You wrote “we are losing.” The question is, who are “WE” - Russia or Belarus? It’s bad without flags, it’s unclear what country the interlocutor is from.

[AshiSolo]

No offense - I don't want to change the photo. The lack of flags is incredibly annoying, in fact. But in this topic only Belarusians are offended =)

[Metamisolatria]

Nothing like that, I'm Russian. And it’s painful to see how the last strongholds of the Slavic peoples are being decimated under the world’s tolerance. Their Slavs, like the cops, are bad while they are alive and represent something...

[nathanael]

Your deeds are wonderful, Lord. How could Belarus, without having a single tower, lose so many petrodollars?

[nathanael]

He completely confused Rams. He sells diesel fuel obtained from subsidized oil to Ukraine. Where it is used in the Donbass.. To the political officer where he served in the SA, hang him by the genitals. Without a statute of limitations.

[AshiSolo]

The Russian Federation itself trades diesel fuel directly with Ukraine very well. There’s no need for our mustachioed Fuhrer here either.

[nathanael]

What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull... There is no need to bully... Polite people - they are deprived of a sense of humor

[AshiSolo]

Such things are not decided in the comments. Therefore, poking them right away is somehow awkward. Considering that “What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull...”, then it turns out that the bull is also allowed? So what's the point of poking your neighbors in the eye with a straw? A bit small. Polite people are polite when ordered. In the meantime, everything is agreed, there is no politeness, no orders, no people. I rejoiced at the events in Crimea in a way that not every Russian did. Like Russian. And while meetings end with kisses and assurances of “friendship and allied feelings,” your attack does not count at all.

[nathanael]

My friend!! Now is not the time for equivocations.. Or they are - where there is no place for Belarus and Ukraine, as well as for Russia - or a united power of the Slavs. If you have other thoughts, share

[AshiSolo]

Well, we’ve come to a common denominator. It's not time. Was there time before? What have you been trying to do for years? Or is Vladimir Vladimirovich a weak president? No offense, but I believe that if you had enough character (Not courage, not pride, not arrogance, but an alloy of character) to take Crimea, and take it beautifully, then the issue with the Republic of Belarus could have been resolved a long time ago. But it's not profitable. I really don’t want to, but a parallel with the DPR and LPR suggests itself. It seems like there are allies, they seem to be like ours, but they seem to be on their own. Already, to put it mildly, not the most pleasant expectations. But at the same time, there is the EAEU, because of which it is the people in the country who eat tasteless and unpleasant slurry with a spoonful. If you are interested, I can explain in more detail what exactly infuriates me, as a holder of a Belarusian passport. But for me personally there are no advantages from the EAEU. But the downsides, plus the expectation that we will be easily scammed (we don’t have Russian peacekeepers on our territory, only bases), are tangible.

[nathanael]

Oh, my friend... You were bitten by the liberals. Well, look through the history of Russia. The annexation of Kazakhstan to Russia - Prince Potemkin didn’t even want to listen to Khan Abulkhair until he was convinced that the majority of Kazakh clans were for a protectorate. This canoe dragged on for almost ten years. Well, who had a bad life under the empire. The Psheks had their own parliament, their own currency. By the way, my nephew has such a penny in his collection. Even the Siberian peoples had their own currency. After all, the backbone of the Polish nation was preserved only in Russia. Well, what can it do? change Russia's friendly attitude towards itself. By destroying the state of Belarus?

[AshiSolo]

I was bitten by routine and economics. Does history and pride speak to you? Well, OK. But I can’t afford now to buy a car that will be guaranteed not to break down. Do you know why? Because this car is less than three years old, and I don’t take out a loan. And I can’t buy it right away. I am the middle class who cannot afford a new car for 13k dollars. But I can’t buy an old and unused one, since within the EAEU, customs clearance of a 2003 Opel with a mileage of 70 thousand costs more than 8 thousand euros. Tasty? And your Kia, Vesta and Solar cars also cost at least 12 thousand with us. And I really need a car for work. But I can’t get a loan because we don’t even have a mortgage, for a loan for the most modest apartment and a 30-minute drive from Minsk, I will have to pay 20 rubles a month for 400 years. With an average salary of 900. I don’t argue that I now have the opportunity to go higher. But even then, 400 for a loan (200 killed raccoons), fuel to Minsk every day, expensive food, the desire to have a second child. And others like them. You, of course, have the right to ask, what does the course and the second child have to do with it? But because we, within the framework of the EAEU, depend on your course PPC. And that's it. At least hang yourself. I can probably handle it. Selling a car, etc. But is the Russian Federation really becoming a brotherly country for me, considering that I can’t afford these Semi-sedans, Renovagens, etc., without an apartment? And the economy depends on the ruble exchange rate, so think about it.

[nathanael]

Buddy!! But you probably won’t believe it. I’m an ordinary Russian pensioner. True, I worked all my life in the north. The pension is not much different from earthlings. State employee - what can I take from them? I won’t say that I’m in great poverty. But the Russian authorities somehow turn a blind eye to the fact that I work part-time. You haven’t tried that ?

[AshiSolo]

Oh, how poor you are. Shouldn't worry. Moreover, it will be harmful.

[nathanael]

Sorry, Buddy!! But don’t confuse your finger with the Chinese aircraft carrier... no one is going to surrender the DPR and LPR. And if Putin is sensitive to such concepts as sovereignty, independence, then you shouldn’t perceive this as a weakness of the Russian State. By the way... I have to go to Mr. Putin has a lot of questions...

[AshiSolo]

Read above. And I really feel that you have already started celebrating Christmas. Just don't get me wrong, if you celebrate, write. I would be glad to, but the situation doesn’t allow it yet. Reasoning sensibly is many times more adequate than a drunken argument.

[nathanael]

No, my wife celebrates Christmas from the 24th to the 25th, but I’m not offended. I drink anyway. Even though I’m Orthodox, Happy Holidays to you, my friend

[AshiSolo]

And you :) Even if opinions do not coincide, this is not a reason not to congratulate and celebrate :)

[akunin]

Quote: Nathanael

I have many questions for Mr. Putin...

address: Kremlin. Putin. but seriously, 80 percent of our residents

There are many questions for Mr. Putin

but he is not very interested in them - he does not answer.

[ratan524]

I would like more details on the databases in the Republic of Belarus. US and radar do not count.

[vit357]

"We would like to remind you that a few days ago in the Belarusian media (Nasha Niva)"

Let me remind you that the “Belarusian media” - “NASHA NIVA” is financed from Poland through the US State Department.

[AshiSolo]

Nobody cares. Our Niva is our everything =)

[Shura Wii]

Sorry, the toy mongrel still can’t fit her butt on two chairs, but she behaves like a smart chick...)))

[Tarasios]

"Lukashenko complained that prices for Russian gas in Belarus are significantly higher than, for example, in the neighboring Smolensk region."
It’s the same as saying something like “yes, your wife gives it to you, but not to me” ;)

[Zomanus]

Does Luka think that his country can actually exist without Russia?
Yes, they will collapse even faster than Ukraine.
Because they are smaller and poorer, let’s say it frankly.

[Alexga]

Yes, dear ones, there is almost Newsland here, but in a more decent form, there is almost no rudeness, but the problems with analysis are the same. I am addressing Russians who live in the Russian Federation. Consider the history of the last thirty years. Remember Kazakhstan in 1989, when the Russians began to be smashed there, where were you? When families were taken out in battle from the Salyan barracks, and on Absheron too, where was Russia? I won’t even talk about Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan; at that time, vouchers were divided and industry was handed over to crooks. Who cheated one and a half million Russians in the Baltics? Moldova, Armenia, Georgia... Who was supposed to work in Ukraine? What ambassadors, such work! Let’s leave us in Belarus now, who will you be left with?! Recall how on June 22, 2010, at night gas was turned off for Belarus due to a debt of 200 million American rubles to GAZPROM, without remembering GAZPROM’s debts of 700 million. Yes, Aliyev issued an interest-free loan overnight, it was returned by the evening. I’m not talking about Baumgartner, In our country, thieves are imprisoned, but in your country, they are released. There are many questions for Lukashenko, but he cannot be blamed for anti-Russian sentiments, this is not true. This is my opinion, a person who considers the USSR his home, so don’t judge too much.

[ratan524]

Where was Russia in 89? And I'll remind you. The RSFSR then had neither a government, nor a Communist Party, nor a budget. In fact, there was none.

[Alexga]

And you weren’t involved in the mess of the 90s? Oh well!

[Metamisolatria]

And in the same 2010, non-brotherly aviation helped extinguish the fires.. And gratitude was only heard from Luzhkov and the purchase of potatoes for Moscow.. All (almost positive was not heard) officially speaking Russia collected slops from barns for the father and splashed them out. But we are good...

[LeonidL]

Well, Putin is not his brother, not his brother... he doesn’t give him any more freebies!

[Brigadier]

Lukash realized that the eternal freebie was ending.
Why does he need Russia now?

[Hypersound]

In this case, let him return everything, and with interest. More than $100 billion since the 90s

[Hypersound]

We must take Minsk

[Alexander not great]

Well, apparently the last friends are leaving, dad, Kazakhstan, when you’re leaving, turn off the light. The political genius of Russian foreign policy has begun to bear fruit.

[Metamisolatria]

I took it off my tongue. But our forum lads don’t look at them, they gnaw on the thrown media bone..
Just the day before, VV noted the impossibility of returning to the path of prioritizing the interests of the people in the state (social remnants). All that remains is to refuse Gaddafi Jr. (asking for support), to wag the tail of Maduro and the Cubans. And the claims of the former Chinese brothers of capitalist Russia in this light look quite justified. They can move it (there was already a reason for Khrushchev and the Caribbean)

[nikvic46]

But trade turnover with Ukraine increases every year.

[ratan524]

Brotherly, according to Lukashenko, it’s free, free. But when it is necessary to support the Russian Federation on key issues, we will think, we will abstain... What the hell is this brother Lukashenka, if in 14, he hugged the main ukroskakun, whose name is a shame to even pronounce, 5 minutes after the coup???

[akunin]

I am no longer saying “brotherly state” because, as I am informed, this is not perceived in Russia. Supposedly new people came to whom this concept is unacceptable. Well, we will be partners.

if partners, then “where is the money, zine”, I ask for gas and oil at internationally accepted prices. the clatter with Belarus will end with the Ukrainian scenario.

[Traveler]

He decided correctly! Only it is not the people who are to blame for this, but the Bratva, who seized power.

[vasek5533]

Quote: ratan524

Brotherly, according to Lukashenko, it’s free, free. But when it is necessary to support the Russian Federation on key issues, we will think, we will abstain... What the hell is this brother Lukashenka, if in 14, he hugged the main ukroskakun, whose name is a shame to even pronounce, 5 minutes after the coup???

Zombified, worse than crests. Your oligarchs don’t give you anything for free, let alone Belarusians. We are always talking about equal prices, equal - it is not free, not cheaper and not more expensive. As for support, it’s like the joke: if it was poorly supported, then you should not support it at all, and then return it to how it was. Well, just so that die-hards can see what the difference is. And with ukroskakun, remind me who’s trade turnover has been growing there for three years, your god boasted about this at the conference.

[ratan524]

And at the same time, remind us about the transit through the Republic of Belarus, organized by your irreplaceable, counterfeit. And remind you, my dear, about basic politeness when dealing with strangers?

[stas-xnumx]

Well, yes, when the transit of Russian oil products to the Baltics through Belarus was covered up, they immediately howled... There were SUCH green tugriks spinning... oh-oh....

[Alexga]

This is for those who like to tell who fed whom in the USSR:

[esk]

And where in the Smolensk region is bottled gas cheaper than in Belarus? Until recently, gas was cheaper in Vitebsk, and significantly! As for natural resources, it is simply absent in two districts of the Smolensk region!

[Gerklim]

Just as they don’t give money, they don’t give discounts, they don’t give them cheaper than cost, so it’s not the Brotherhood State right away. And how the brothers gave the money right away for a lifetime (until the money ran out). The whole point of the dad is to shake money from Russia.

[Note 2]

Why call Lukashenko a brother for selling weapons and ammunition to Syrian terrorists?

[Metamisolatria]

Quote: ratan524

.. What the hell is this brother Lukashenka, if in 14 he hugged the main ukrosskakun, whose name is even a shame to pronounce, 5 minutes after the coup???

And those whom Lukashenko reproached for unbrotherly relations cannot imprison Chubais in any way.... And Medvedev’s Cabinet of Ministers is recognized as effective, and efimki (that is, $) are again being purchased instead of gold.. Old Man has a real sentence for burning vodka, etc. our “inner riches” will instantly turn White Rus' into stripes - don’t you believe it?
I'll minus it slightly, with respect. sorry.

[Vladimir Matveyev]

Lukashenko would like to climb on Russia’s neck in a brotherly way.

[Mechanic]

And not only him.

[suhov17]

This dude (Lukashenka) understands "brotherhood" only in the sense that the "elder" brother (Russia) should take off his last shirt for his sake, and not even get in return, "thank you" - what kind of "thank you"? - " we are brothers ".... wink
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Lukashenko is probably telling you his thoughts on purpose.
It was precisely this Russian intellect that drove Russia into the most hopeless ass.

[Alexga]

Gentlemen, commentators, does this remind you of your thoughts? “He had a friend in Minsk,” under this heading and with the headline “Belarusian leader upsets Putin by getting closer to the West,” the British magazine The Economist published an article on Belarusian-Russian relations.
Characterizing Alexander Lukashenko, the publication draws parallels with Vladimir Lenin and emphasizes the continuity of the policies of the head of the modern Belarusian state with the Soviets. At the same time, the authors of the publication note the “deep sense of social justice” inherent in Lukashenko.
The Economist believes that Lukashenko's socio-economic model until recently relied on Russian energy subsidies in the form of gas and oil at prices below world prices.
In return, Mr. Lukashenko pledged allegiance to Russia and entered into military-economic alliances with it. Yet the Union State of Russia and Belarus, nominally formed in 1999, exists mainly on paper. In fact, Mr. Lukashenko has skillfully played Moscow against the West.
The Economist,
The publication's expert is Balazs Jarabik from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who is considered in the West to be an expert on modern Belarus. He notes changes in public consciousness and the social contract, with the emphasis shifting towards making money and processes of liberalization of civil society. According to the expert, liberal manifestations on the part of Lukashenko are associated with geopolitical aggravation between Russia and Ukraine.
According to The Economist, “having lost Ukraine, Russia now wants to integrate Belarus more deeply, citing those dormant agreements of the 1990s.” Also, the Belarus factor may give Putin a chance to retain power after the 2024 elections, avoiding restrictions on the number of presidential terms.
The Economist predicts that tension in Belarusian-Russian relations will increase, hinting at the beginning of a new round of positional games between the two presidents and finally recalling the story of Lukashenko’s New Year’s gift to the Russian leader (several bags of potatoes and a piece of lard).