In the United States analyzed the potential of T-72

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Russia continues to modernize its T-72 tank; it’s safe to say that the buyers will find their updated cars abroad, as well, according to an American political scientist National Interest Charlie Gao.





Gao called the T-72B3 one of the deadliest versions of the T-72 family. At the same time noted a relatively low cost tankwhich is cheaper than the T-90 or the modernized T-80.

In his opinion, the demand for an improved machine will be high throughout the world, especially in those mills that use classic T-72. But while T-72B3 is used only in the Russian and Belarusian armies. Meanwhile, the export version of the T-72B1MS “White Eagle”, which uses some of the T-72B3 technologies, could change the situation.

Both modernized vehicles are equipped with Sosna-U sights with a thermal imager and an advanced fire control system. In addition, on the T-72B1MS a panoramic commander's sight of the PK Falcon Eye PC, providing "excellent awareness of what is happening on the battlefield." Similar sights were installed on Russian T-90M tanks, the author writes.

However, T-72B1MS loses to the T-72B3 tank in terms of security - its dynamic protection is inferior to the Kontakt-5 and Relikt complexes, which are currently installed on modern Russian tanks, the material says.

In the United States analyzed the potential of T-72


The author explains this feature by the fact that currently the potential buyers of T-72B1MS are the countries of South and Central America. In the local jungle and mountainous areas, high-quality sight is of great importance. At the same time, armies of other countries in the region do not yet have advanced tanks or powerful anti-tank shells. Apparently, therefore, a lightweight variant of protection was chosen, which also increases the maneuverability of the machine and, importantly, reduces its cost.
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  1. +3
    24 December 2018 16: 57
    But while the T-72B3 is used only in the Russian and Belarusian armies.
    Strange but the information is not true ...

    1. +5
      24 December 2018 17: 07
      Hi, hello! hi
      Quote: svp67
      Strange but the information is not true ...

      Do you recall what I recently called NI? wink
      1. +4
        24 December 2018 17: 09
        Hello pasha hi
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Do you recall what I recently called NI?

        Pasha carefully, here from the "fog" can "fly"
        1. 0
          24 December 2018 17: 11
          Quote: svp67
          here from the "fog" can "fly"

          For what ? For the "ballet club at the pasta factory"? Or for "tabloid tabloid"? wink
          1. +3
            24 December 2018 17: 13
            sometimes I’m lost in conjecture, I’ve flown over for Lavrov, although he had a comma separated, but I just removed the vowels ....
            1. +1
              24 December 2018 17: 17
              Quote: svp67
              sometimes I’m lost in conjecture, I’ve flown over for Lavrov, although he had a comma separated, but I just removed the vowels ....

              To you belay It seems, democracy, go to her grandmother overlap through the clus ...
              1. +2
                24 December 2018 17: 25
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                To you

                What am I special? How can one demand from someone if he does not obey?
                1. +4
                  24 December 2018 17: 31
                  Quote: svp67
                  What am I special?

                  No, it's just that some of your colleagues consider themselves first after God. Unfortunately, many of those who can confirm this are already banned without the right to correspond ...
                  1. +2
                    24 December 2018 17: 32
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    No, it's just that some of your colleagues consider themselves first after God.

                    I'm afraid that God is not a level for them drinks
                    1. +1
                      24 December 2018 19: 23
                      Quote: bouncyhunter

                      No, it's just that some of your colleagues consider themselves first after God

                      Come on! They are atheists.
                      drinks
                      1. +1
                        24 December 2018 19: 30
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        Come on! They are atheists.

                        What is the same PRIDE drinks
                      2. -3
                        24 December 2018 22: 21
                        Bestial roller. Why do you dirty the High with these sewages?
                  2. 0
                    25 December 2018 09: 55
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Quote: svp67
                    What am I special?

                    No, it's just that some of your colleagues consider themselves first after God. Unfortunately, many of those who can confirm this are already banned without the right to correspond ...

                    No, there are still live people, but under the last warning, they rocked with them for a long time without useful soon for "iti their grandmother" not to ban shoot by hanging by burning will be.
    2. -1
      25 December 2018 08: 15
      Quote: svp67
      Strange but the information is not true ...

      Nothing strange: You wanted objectivity from where it couldn’t be, by definition, but the commercial and lobbying stuffing is out of the question.
      Nothing personal just business! ;-))
      1. +1
        25 December 2018 08: 52
        Nothing personal just business!

        Prior to this koment only talk is off topic. On the street a column of tanks passes, and they in the kitchen talk about washing clothes.

        I want to ask the tank crew.

        What advantage or disadvantage does the front or rear drive wheel have?
        When the drive wheel is in front position, the lug is pulled over the rollers and sags between the drive wheel and the first roller. The caterpillar, as it were, is pulled over by the drive wheel.
        In the rear arrangement of the drive wheel, the lug over the rollers sags and is pulled between the drive wheel and the rear roller. The caterpillar, as it were, is pulled out from under the rear roller.
        Does all this play any role?

        That is why on the Tigers and Panthers, from the engine in the stern, they pulled the cardan through the entire tank so that the drive wheels were in front?
        1. -2
          25 December 2018 10: 41
          The first often gets into difficult situations, turns into an oval. It’s wise to make the lead from behind. IMHO.
          1. 0
            25 December 2018 16: 49
            It’s wise to make the lead from behind.

            And that the Germans had no idea that they pulled the universal joint across the entire tank?

            There is some reason, but what?
  2. +1
    24 December 2018 17: 06
    Seventy deuces have great potential so far)
    1. +3
      24 December 2018 17: 14
      Quote: Lieutenant Senior
      Seventy deuces have great potential so far)

      Too shy to ask, but big for what?
      1. +1
        24 December 2018 17: 17
        For those purposes for which tanks were invented in general))
        72 there is still room to grow.
        1. +2
          24 December 2018 17: 23
          Quote: Lieutenant Senior
          72 there is still room to grow.

          And here I ask you to clarify where to grow it? By weight, by size?
          1. -1
            24 December 2018 17: 42
            Saw a new tower for example. That will grow up. A new tower, a new AZ, new sub-caliber shells of high elongation and you're done. But then you get the T-90MS. smile
            1. +1
              24 December 2018 17: 46
              Quote: 1810BM86
              Saw a new tower for example. That will grow up. A new tower, a new AZ, new sub-caliber shells of high elongation and you're done.

              And also a new, more powerful engine, to strengthen the chassis and then for sure ...
              Quote: 1810BM86
              get T-90MS.

              And it seems that this is almost the maximum that can be squeezed out of the T-72. This tank has been painfully created for a long time and all possible reserves of modernization have been exhausted, it’s easier to create a new tank
              1. 0
                24 December 2018 18: 09
                Well, actually the T-90 is, as it were, the T-72BU. So now we’ve done everything for a long time, though Yeltsin wanted a new tank, and Ob.188 became known as the T-90. smile
                1. 0
                  24 December 2018 18: 12
                  Quote: 1810BM86
                  Well, actually the T-90 is sort of

                  Thank you, I know the history of this tank well.
                  Quote: 1810BM86
                  Well, Ob.188 was called the T-90.

                  It would be better to ob.187, as promised EBN, UVZ would have let in the series.
                  1. -1
                    24 December 2018 18: 18
                    Perhaps better. But rather it was necessary to try to produce the T-80 by hook or by crook, but the time was too difficult.
                    1. 0
                      24 December 2018 18: 25
                      Quote: 1810BM86
                      But rather, it was necessary to try the T-80 with all the rules and not the truth

                      What are you talking about, this tank for UVZ - "T-80", but then - "red rag", it was they by hook or by crook refused to produce a SINGLE tank based on the T-80U. Than they did not fulfill the resolution of the Council of Ministers of the USSR. But the USSR disappeared, which means that it became unnecessary to fulfill this requirement, although it would be interesting to see the T-80UD1 with 2V16
                      1. -1
                        24 December 2018 18: 36
                        They say that it is not their strong resistance that matters, but Ustinov’s death.
                      2. 0
                        24 December 2018 18: 51
                        Quote: 1810BM86
                        They say that it is not their strong resistance that matters, but Ustinov’s death.

                        And the T-64 on their conveyor simply refused to produce ...
                  2. 0
                    24 December 2018 21: 31
                    Quote: svp67
                    It would be better to ob.187, as promised EBN, UVZ would have let in the series.

                    Sergey, it’s better, of course, better ... Here are just 30 thousands of T-72's where to go? Vaughn, his Abrams Yankees already 7 once modernized and shoved him wherever possible, and especially trying to stick where it is impossible.
                    Ours seemed to have grown wiser too: they charged the "White Eagle" for Cambodia, having previously refreshed the engine and equipment.
                    And T-90CM, as I understand it, is useful to us.
                  3. -1
                    25 December 2018 08: 22
                    Who about what. And the casket just opens.

                    They could not bring to mind Armata, there was not enough money, the scientific and engineering luggage of the electronic era was not enough. All that was enough was to make several layouts for the parades. Like the Su-57 with Altair. So they started to make a mine with a bad game, to promote the old tank. And the old one is the old one, even if you wear a sports uniform, the old one will not become young.

                    Classification by generation has appeared in the world tank building, this classification is conditional and not officially registered. BUT...

                    "The first generation falls on the 1950-1960s, including some models developed during the war: T-34-85, Panther, M26 General Pershing, M47, M48A1 and M48A2, British Centurions, Soviet T-54 and T- 55, Japanese Type 61 ".

                    "The second generation of tanks belongs to the 1960-1970s, which are now called in the USA -" main battle tank ", in the USSR -" main tank ": Soviet T-62, T-64A, American M60, M60A1, British Chieftain, Vickers Mk 1 (Vijayanta), French AMX-30, German Leopard (modifications A1, A2 and A3), Swiss Pz61, Swedish Strv-103 ".

                    "The first transitional generation (1970-1980): American tanks М60А2 and М60АЗ, English" Vickers "Mk 3, German" Leopard-1A4 ", Soviet T-64 and T-72, Italian OF-40, Swiss Pz68, Japanese Type 74, Israeli "Merkava" Mk1 ".
                    1. 0
                      25 December 2018 08: 36
                      "Tanks that have appeared since the 1980s belong to the third generation of tanks: the Soviet T-80 in several modifications and the T-90, T-64B and T-72B, the Ukrainian BM" Oplot ", the Japanese Type 90, the Chinese Type 88 and Type 99 (ZTZ-99), South Korean K2 "Black Panther", American M1 "Abrams", English "Challenger-1", German "Leopard-2", Israeli "Merkava" Mk 3, Italian C1 "Ariete", French "Leclerc" "".

                      So what's the matter?

                      But the fact is that there, beyond the hill, it would not occur to anyone to say that the M-60, Vickers, Leopard 1A4, OF-40, PTs68, Type 74, Merkava MK1 tanks meet modern requirements.

                      Like they just need to upgrade them and then you can abandon the Abrams, Leopards 2A7, Merkava Mk4.
                    2. -1
                      25 December 2018 16: 03
                      Tarkhan! Moderate your ardor about the "shortcomings" of Russian technology, which with your knowledge prevents you from conducting an objective analysis ... Better study. Specialist?!
                      1. +1
                        25 December 2018 16: 36
                        Tarkhan! Moderate your ardor about the "shortcomings" of Russian technology, which, with your knowledge, prevents you from conducting an objective analysis.

                        Not the faults matter. The disadvantages of any business should be the default.

                        I am therefore, as it is impossible to frantically promote that which is not. And it’s too much to promote that the old is a hundred times better than the new.

                        We started the development and reported everything, then do it silently. When created, conducted tests, started mass production, then please - not only tell everyone and everything to certain limits, but also show to certain limits. And if the phrase expressed in the paragraph is the opposite then it’s what happened with the Su-57, with Armata, with Altair. And what can happen to the Dagger.

                        Modernization of the T-72 is forced and it is not a shame. But do not say that after the modernization, the T-72 will stand on a par with the tanks of the third generation - with Abrams, with Merkava Mk4, with Leclerc, with Leopard 2A7.

                        They upgrade the Tu-95, but they do not say that it is better than the Tu-160. They upgrade the B-52, but the US media do not scream that it is better than the B-1 and B-2.
                      2. 0
                        25 December 2018 20: 19
                        Tarkhan! Do not get tired of the stupidity of writing about the hypersonic weapons of Russia (which is on experimental combat duty), the Armata tank, the Su-57 multipurpose fighter and so on ... Do not commit yourself, but you have very little knowledge in many military areas of technology ... You are trolling in vain and nothing more ... For people like you, they modernize equipment to increase technical capabilities, parameters, characteristics - it is a priori better than the original sample, as well as usually a foreign analogue ... Therefore, do not write your "baby talk" - it is ugly and "not from a big mind", learn to behave yourself! And it is possible to compare modernized military equipment only in real combat, and not verbally.
                      3. +1
                        25 December 2018 22: 01
                        Tarkhan! Not tired of stupidity to write about Russia's hypersonic weapons

                        Not worth it. What are the deployed warheads. And then, something, I don’t see you operating in your comments with outstanding knowledge in the field of military equipment.

                        And you did not understand or did not want to understand my last comment. I repeat, I am not against Russian weapons, I am against empty propaganda. 10 years screaming about the Su-57, Armata, Altair and where are they ??? NO THEM. Deputy Prime Minister Borisov unequivocally stated that they would not go into production.

                        And the last thing about - Therefore, do not write your "baby talk" - it is ugly and "not from a big mind", learn to behave yourself! .

                        Sensei gave a voice where it is beautiful and where decently. Grandmothers learn pancake oven. Did I suggest you do something in my opinion?
                      4. -1
                        25 December 2018 22: 12
                        Tarkhan! In your comments - "baby talk" ... it is poorly calculated at what range a target with an image intensifier tube = 2 sq. Cm (drone) will be seen by the Pantsir-C1 air defense system ... The detection range of a target with an image intensifier tube = 2 sq. M is D = 36 km. .. If you count, then we'll talk!
                      5. +1
                        25 December 2018 22: 22
                        weakly calculate at what range the target will see with an image intensifier = 2 cmXNUMX

                        Why should I count?

                        In reply. Maybe you can calculate how the energy fractions are distributed in the explosion of a neutron munition between a shock wave, light radiation and penetrating radiation (neutron and gamma radiation) Just count with the provision of calculation formulas.

                        And the third time I’m talking and I won’t say anything more, from empty to empty.
                        I'm talking about an EMPTY propaganda, and not against the RUSSIAN WEAPON.
                      6. -1
                        26 December 2018 05: 02
                        Tarkhan! There are no neutron ammunition in the arsenal of the Russian army, only a small part of the armament of the United States ... ineffective! Unlike you - I can calculate the example that I gave you in 6 seconds ... But you are not able to calculate your example - it's just babble, judging by your knowledge of physics ... you wrote nonsense. Think - why ?!
                        Your bilious sayings about the military equipment of Russia, speak of something else ... Are you from Ukraine, by any chance?
                      7. +2
                        26 December 2018 12: 02
                        I, unlike you, can count the example that I gave you in an elementary way in 6 seconds ..

                        Yes, count at least 3 seconds. The site is not a scientific and technical magazine where narrow specialists can speak out. The site is for people and everyone says how they can and what they mean.
                        I say no need to push propaganda instead of real military equipment. Am I saying something wrong about the Su-57 and Armata? What are they running in the series? What are they being supplied to the troops?

                        And you are not able to calculate your example - it's just babble, judging by your knowledge of physics ... you wrote nonsense.

                        This is you talking nonsense. Here on the site you do not need to be a physicist, chemist or astrophysicist to write a comment. I gave you a neutron example, not for you to calculate it, but to understand that such claims are utter stupidity.

                        There will be no frantic propaganda and there will be no comments, and not only with me.

                        You ask me if I’m from Ukraine? I can answer according to your principle - If you do not know that Tarkhan stands for a rank in the Turkic early states along with a bek, tutun, etc. then you do not have the right to write your comments here on the site. So you put some kind of restrictions. I am from Kazakhstan.
                        ALL. There’s nothing to talk about with you.
  3. +2
    24 December 2018 17: 21
    The car was good for its time, but now it needs to be replaced more actively, with the same T90M.
    1. -1
      25 December 2018 08: 32
      Everyone understands this, but what kind of shisha do this ??!
      The existing liberal-economic system is not capable of raising either the social sphere (or even being unable to keep it !!), or charging the military-industrial complex with money (liberals do not realize that this gives power and stability to the domestic market as the basis for collecting tax revenues to the budget.
      For the people it’s the most preferable (increase in export duties (the basis of all the wealth of our oligarchs (duties are included in the exchange price and the higher they are, the lower the margins of our billionaires))) the liberals won’t go (they will sooner bring about a military coup! ;-))), so what to expect from the military-industrial complex to release something breakthrough is useless and has no financial support
  4. +2
    24 December 2018 17: 22
    Such tower defense was always embarrassing as below.
    1. -1
      24 December 2018 17: 59
      Quote: NordUral
      Such tower defense was always embarrassing as below.

      what is it really? or maybe "grenades of another system"?
      1. +2
        24 December 2018 18: 01
        poquello! Escape the whole flock of trolls, and I’ll answer at once, my friend.
        1. -2
          24 December 2018 18: 15
          Quote: NordUral
          poquello! Escape the whole flock of trolls, and I’ll answer at once, my friend.

          don't build yourself whole if you have nothing to say
          1. +2
            24 December 2018 18: 16
            To answer this, hamlo?
            what is it really? or maybe "grenades of another system"?
            1. -1
              24 December 2018 18: 21
              Quote: NordUral
              To answer this, hamlo?
              what is it really? or maybe "grenades of another system"?

              ok, a question for tankers, contact1 above and contact5 lower photo?
              1. +2
                24 December 2018 18: 24
                poquello! I did not call myself a tanker. I'm more for iron. And calm down, and if itches where, then grease something. Till.
                1. -1
                  24 December 2018 18: 35
                  Quote: NordUral
                  I did not call myself a tanker

                  it is clear, but you have your opinion)))))
  5. +1
    24 December 2018 18: 15
    Another would have mastered the KAZ and the gun for the "long" BOPS.
    1. 0
      25 December 2018 04: 13
      Yes, a long BOPS is a show off when the last time a tank shot at a tank. Now in all conflicts, tanks are destroyed either by aviation or anti-tank systems
  6. -4
    24 December 2018 19: 44
    Faithful "friends, brothers and allies of the USSR and Russia" (Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Libya, PLO, Yemen (the one that is "wrong")) "put Israel, and from there, and all" interested state-you " the number of Soviet (Russian) weapons, which are still "being investigated by potential enemies." Moreover, they were "delivered" ABSOLUTELY free of charge. Truly, the USSR is a stronghold of the world and a silver man, to that already! We continue in the same spirit!
  7. -1
    24 December 2018 20: 53
    Still a good and cheap tank. A real workhorse. However, for its own army, it’s high time to rivet the T-14, at least 200 pieces a year
    1. 0
      25 December 2018 04: 15
      Yeah, we can’t pull the ninety and you wanted a rebar.
  8. -1
    25 December 2018 08: 48
    My Pride is Lining.
    1. 0
      25 December 2018 14: 27
      "Lining Lights", "Fir Mountains" ... Dzerzhinsky Avenue has not been renamed yet? It's familiar from Taiga 83. Yes, there were times!
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  9. +1
    25 December 2018 10: 41
    Again propaganda!
  10. 0
    25 December 2018 14: 03
    However, the T-72 gives a lot of trouble to our overseas partners! If the tanks had a similar classification of generations, as in aviation, then it would look like a concern that the newest F-35s actually do not see Russian fighters of the Newpor and Farman family on their radars, since they are made of shit and sticks that have low ESR. And the use of such systems as Sosna-U and Falcon Eye with the Contact-5 and Relic systems on the White Orel in tank modifications is honest, difficult to evaluate, and even less compare with advanced Western weapons , but it sounds very cool and I would beware of the place of potential friends, because once a year - and the stick shoots, and here - not even a stick, but a whole rake!
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