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Echo of the failed duel - about the preparation of the suit of the Rosguard for RBC

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Rosgvardiya decided to appeal to the courts. The reason for such a decision was the “inaccurate” data on deliveries to the agency, which was published by the RBC information publication.




We are talking about the scandal that erupted after the publication of the video of the opposition leader Navalny.

In particular, two publications from 10 and 13 of December, entitled “The contract on“ Friendship ”and“ Rosgvardia began an internal investigation because of the supply of products ”, became an apple of contention. Both articles were devoted to illegal overpricing for the supply of meat products for the Rosguards.

According to the press service, there are gross inaccuracies in these articles, due to which the situation around government procurement in Rosgvardia was presented to the public in a distorted form. In addition, representatives of the Ministry noted that publications with unverified data appeared on the threshold of a high-profile judicial process, which can be considered as putting pressure on the court.

After Rosgvardiya sent an official letter on the real situation with government procurement on the day of publication and requested to publish it completely, only a partial text of the letter appeared on the pages of RBC with inaccuracies and silencing of important details.

All this led to the dissemination of this information across dozens of publications, which could not but lead to the creation of an informational background that distorts reality, the ministry stressed.

The greatest public response was caused not so much by the publication itself, as by the statements around it. For example, this is a challenge to a duel between the commander of the Rosguard, Viktor Zolotov, Alexei Navalny - with loud statements about his readiness to turn him into a cutlet. In social networks have already called the preparation of the claim from the Rosguards to RBC "an echo of a failed duel."
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  1. svp67
    svp67 24 December 2018 16: 50
    +1
    Social networks have already called the preparation of a lawsuit by the Russian Guard against RBC "an echo of a failed duel."
    To our great regret, but how many times have we already heard such threats against any "impudent" and where is at least one claim? Well, if you say: "A", say the whole alphabet to "Z"
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 24 December 2018 16: 57
      +12
      Quote: svp67
      Well, if you said: "A", say the whole alphabet to "Z"

      Yeah! A "mess" in the country - here and there - "noble"! That's for sure.
      1. dogens
        dogens 25 December 2018 09: 32
        0
        Quote: Tatiana
        Quote: svp67
        Well, if you said: "A", say the whole alphabet to "Z"

        Yeah! A "mess" in the country - here and there - "noble"! That's for sure.

        This article makes me think that we don’t need Stalin, revolution, etc. We need a shooter, an athlete, conditionally Kolya, who is offended by the behavior of the government, effective managers and everyone will call for a duel. Since it is so possible.
        A little bit that Kolya is upset.
    2. Harry.km
      Harry.km 24 December 2018 16: 57
      +20
      Quote: svp67
      and where is at least one lawsuit?

      Where is the duel? The "impudent" then agreed to her and chose a weapon ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 December 2018 16: 59
        -3
        Quote: Harry.km
        Where is the duel? The "impudent" then agreed to her and chose a weapon ...

        According to the dueling code, dueling is possible only among EQUAL. And here it’s clearly not equal in position ... violation
        1. Harry.km
          Harry.km 24 December 2018 17: 09
          +22
          Quote: svp67
          And here it’s clearly not equal in position ... violation

          And the current of these two is not a nobleman ??? And by the way, which code is Italian, French, American? )))
          1. svp67
            svp67 24 December 2018 17: 11
            -8
            Quote: Harry.km
            And the current of these two is not a nobleman ???

            Nobility by nobility, but one of them is GENERAL, and the second WHO?
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km 24 December 2018 17: 16
              +21
              And here the general is not a general, or both are noblemen or not ... If the general considered himself insulted, then the insult was inflicted equal. Otherwise, a direct road to court))) By the way, here it is more likely a general, has no pedigree, unlike the "impudent"))))
              1. svp67
                svp67 24 December 2018 17: 28
                -7
                Quote: Harry.km
                By the way, here is more likely a general, has no pedigree, unlike the "impudent"))))

                The bad thing is that you know who and for what the nobility in Russia received and when.
                Quote: Harry.km
                If the general considered himself insulted, then the insult was inflicted equal

                And in this I do not support the general, not in his case so call for an answer. He will retire and let him call.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 24 December 2018 17: 51
              +24
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Harry.km
              And the current of these two is not a nobleman ???

              Nobility by nobility, but one of them is GENERAL, and the second WHO?

              Citizen Zolotov is a general only for his personnel under his direct subordination, and only during working hours (at the workplace). In all other cases, he is an ordinary citizen, equalized by the Constitution in his rights and duties with all other citizens of the country. Well, that is, according to the law so.
            3. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 24 December 2018 17: 59
              +8
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Harry.km
              And the current of these two is not a nobleman ???

              Nobility by nobility, but one of them is GENERAL, and the second WHO?

              a former general Chopovets ... does this change something? Call me an oval general ...
            4. Captain45
              Captain45 24 December 2018 23: 12
              +3
              Quote: svp67
              Nobility by nobility, but one of them is GENERAL, and the second WHO?

              When the Grand Duke Constantine, being the chief of the cavalry guards, allowed, I don’t remember any "jamb", in modern terms, they complained to the Emperor. And so, having built the regiment, Konstantin turned to the cavalry guards: "Gentlemen, you seem to have deigned to complain about me? Well, I am ready to give satisfaction" in full confidence that no one would dare to accept the challenge against the Grand Duke, a member of the royal family. However, the cavalry guard Lunin, later a Decembrist, left the ranks of the regiment and declared: "Your Highness, you cannot refuse such an honor!" those. formally accepted the challenge, but Konstantin did not support the challenge, jokingly said that you are still young, brother. So, it was not only the generals who accepted the challenges. And sometimes, during the service, sometimes there were situations when I wanted to yell at some rude regiment - "To the barrier, damn it! Through a handkerchief, without leaving the place!" and a hundred poods, if there was such a challenge, the regiment would have merged in six seconds ... into a special department ..
            5. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 25 December 2018 08: 50
              +2
              Quote: Harry.km
              And which of these two is not a nobleman ??? And by the way, which code is Italian, French, American?

              Quote: svp67
              Nobility by nobility, but one of them is GENERAL, and the second WHO?

              Nobleman? One is a courtyard, the other is a court ... That's the whole problem ...
          2. svp67
            svp67 24 December 2018 17: 20
            0
            Quote: Harry.km
            And by the way, which code is Italian, French, American? )))
            Russian...
            Quote: Harry.km
            And the current of these two is not a nobleman ???
            Well, if you agree that the dueling code is applicable here, then it is probably worth remembering that starting with the "major" in the Republic of Ingushetia, personal nobility was awarded.
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km 24 December 2018 17: 31
              +8
              Quote: svp67
              Well, if you agree

              Well, based on the fact that this is a joke, invented by a newly made general, I agree. Let me remind you once again that a duel, as you noted, should take place among equals. And since the general considered himself insulted, the "impudent" is definitely equal to the general in origin. Well, or if the general does not consider himself a nobleman or was not given such a rank during the general's tenure with the rank of major, then among the commoners duels are also possible, but do not meet their purpose)))) In general, in any case, this duel, in any form -hokhma!)))
              1. svp67
                svp67 24 December 2018 17: 33
                +5
                Quote: Harry.km
                In general, in any scenario, this duel, in any form, Hochma!)))

                In this case, this is not Hochma, but stupidity.
                1. Harry.km
                  Harry.km 24 December 2018 17: 48
                  +7
                  Quote: svp67
                  In this case, this is not Hochma, but stupidity.

                  Read it carefully: Noble "Z" challenged the "N" to a duel, on fists! ))))))))))) This is HOHMA!)))))))
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 24 December 2018 17: 55
                    -2
                    Quote: Harry.km
                    This is HOOM!)))))))

                    Here is HOCHMA:

                    And then - stupidity
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 25 December 2018 09: 01
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              Well, if you agree that a dueling code is applicable here, then it’s probably worth remembering that starting with the "major" in RI, personal nobility was awarded.

              I did not hear that the rank of major was given to a man from a servant who planted an important nobleman on a horse or in a carriage.
        2. Conductor
          Conductor 24 December 2018 17: 12
          +23
          And what kind of dueling code of the beginning of the 20th century are you applying to the 21st century. In fact, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation wilting)))) Zolotova pulls on 119 st of the Criminal Code Threat of killing or causing serious harm to health
          1. Harry.km
            Harry.km 24 December 2018 17: 18
            +18
            Quote: Conductor
            Threat to kill or cause serious bodily harm

            Moreover, judging by the whole group of persons by prior conspiracy
            1. Conductor
              Conductor 24 December 2018 19: 19
              +4
              She gave him recognition on the air himself (Zolotov) purely part 1 of Art. 119. Discount will come out
        3. Stas157
          Stas157 24 December 2018 17: 28
          +20
          Quote: svp67

          According to the dueling code, dueling is possible only among EQUAL. AND here are clearly not equal in position...violation

          Where are we with an unclean snout to high masters? (to whom you ranked General Zolotov) It is understandable, although he imbecile, he is included in a narrow circle of those who are near (to the body of the Sun). I suddenly remembered when they offended another one of those who are no match for us: “He is not Dimon!”
          Yes, and to hell with him, let them consider themselves deities ... but another is puzzling! When some representatives of the people, such as svp67, suddenly considered themselves stinkers, and oligophrenic Zolotov - gentlemen.
          1. svp67
            svp67 24 December 2018 17: 30
            -18
            Quote: Stas157
            When already some representatives from the people, such as svp67, considered themselves stinkers, and oligophrenic Zolotov - gentlemen.

            If God did not give you MIND, then do not DEMONSTRATE it.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 24 December 2018 17: 38
              -6
              Quote: svp67
              If God did not give you MIND, then do not DEMONSTRATE it

              Kohl no brains
              And the forehead is wide -
              Strength, a bad head.

              Regarding the "failed duel":
              Lion does not feed on carrion
              (c) V. Scott, "Ivanhoe"
              1. svp67
                svp67 24 December 2018 17: 39
                -4
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Kohl

                Wow, Paul, what knowledge in adventure literature is .... Bravo good
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 24 December 2018 17: 42
                  0
                  Sorry for the tautology, but what surprises me is that you are surprised at my knowledge.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 24 December 2018 17: 51
                    -3
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Sorry for the tautology, but what surprises me is that you are surprised at my knowledge.

                    Sori ... just recently I began to notice that I began to forget a lot of what I knew. And honestly, I'm just happy for a friend
            2. Stas157
              Stas157 24 December 2018 17: 44
              +8
              Quote: svp67
              If God did not give you MIND, then do not DEMONSTRATE it.

              Why are you reacting to any stupidity by insult?
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Kohl no brains
              And the forehead is wide -
              Strength, a bad head.

              hi
              1. svp67
                svp67 24 December 2018 17: 50
                -5
                Quote: Stas157
                Why are you reacting to any stupidity by insult?

                Am I offended? Whose stupidity is it? No, it won’t wait ...
        4. 210ox
          210ox 24 December 2018 18: 33
          +3
          Yes, they are equal ... Insolence.
          1. irazum
            irazum 24 December 2018 19: 48
            +2
            In truth, one, in stupidity, another.
        5. Serge Gorely
          Serge Gorely 24 December 2018 21: 04
          +4
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Harry.km
          Where is the duel? The "impudent" then agreed to her and chose a weapon ...

          According to the dueling code, dueling is possible only among EQUAL. And here it’s clearly not equal in position ... violation

          Type general Victor from counts?
      2. snake
        snake 24 December 2018 17: 53
        +6
        Quote: Harry.km
        Where is the duel? The "impudent" then agreed to her and chose a weapon ...

        Rogues do not play games in which they cannot win.
    3. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 24 December 2018 18: 04
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      Social networks have already called the preparation of a lawsuit by the Russian Guard against RBC "an echo of a failed duel."
      To our great regret, but how many times have we already heard such threats against any "impudent" and where is at least one claim? Well, if you say: "A", say the whole alphabet to "Z"

      A lawsuit is an investigation, an investigation can lead to punishment, and so they will make noise and forget.
    4. vkl.47
      vkl.47 25 December 2018 08: 29
      +2
      RBC is still that garbage dump, but I also got into golds .... with claws
  2. Phil77
    Phil77 24 December 2018 16: 50
    +5
    * Long live our court! The most humane court in the world! * fellow
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 24 December 2018 16: 53
      +13
      Quote: Phil77
      * Long live our court! The most humane court in the world! *

      Now, probably, the most relevant will be the "Basmanny" lol
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 24 December 2018 18: 25
        +1
        But then you’ll have to shoot a new version of the old beautiful film! And knowing our current * filmmakers * it is absolutely impossible to do it! So let this phrase be, okay? I hope I convinced you of this? yes
        1. helmi8
          helmi8 24 December 2018 19: 05
          +2
          And I have no complaints against you, I just voiced my idea ... smile
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 24 December 2018 19: 10
            +2
            Yes, and did not hold in his thoughts. request
  3. 3vs
    3vs 24 December 2018 17: 05
    +2
    All that remains is to check the Accounting Chamber.
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  5. Conductor
    Conductor 24 December 2018 17: 12
    +6
    No, well, Putin’s Zolotov’s just like that !!!!
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 24 December 2018 17: 20
      +12
      nothing surprising ... "man's friend" over the years always becomes like the owner ...
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 24 December 2018 19: 16
        +2
        Yes, he seems to be there, even sleeping next to, with ..
    2. snake
      snake 24 December 2018 18: 02
      +6
      Quote: Conductor
      No, well, Putin’s Zolotov’s just like that !!!!

      This is his defective clone.
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 24 December 2018 19: 14
        +2
        This is a double of Putin, but not a success. We read Monday begins on Saturday, there, a certain Korneev, doubles did one less than the other.
        1. snake
          snake 24 December 2018 22: 43
          +2
          Here's another version. Also from "Monday". Or maybe Zolotov and Putin are like two Janus? That is, Zolotov is Putin, only from the future? Suppose he survived the assassination attempt and underwent facial plastic surgery, and therefore does not look one to one. But since he warned himself about the attempt, it will not take place, and therefore Zolotov's face will gradually return to its initial state, i.e. become the face of Putin.
    3. dogens
      dogens 25 December 2018 09: 24
      +1
      I also noticed. It is quite possible that the brothers are not full-blooded) or even some non-full-blooded relatives. It really seems to me so long ago.
  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 24 December 2018 17: 18
    +2
    It is necessary to respond more quickly to the incidents addressed to you, and gently pull your boss in order not to get into the bottle.
  7. Alex 2016
    Alex 2016 24 December 2018 17: 46
    +8
    That one does not know who he is in life (either a Russian guard or a national guard. They would simply call the gendarmerie and not toil with the names. By the way, he should be advised to do this. At the same time, they will again cut off the money for the reform. And there you can enter the tsar officially laughing ) that another something.
  8. Samara_63
    Samara_63 24 December 2018 17: 49
    +1
    Organizations cannot appeal to the Court ...
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 24 December 2018 19: 23
      +2
      In the framework of the Code of Civil Procedure
      1. dogens
        dogens 25 December 2018 09: 26
        0
        Quote: Conductor
        In the framework of the Code of Civil Procedure

        And in the framework of the agro-industrial complex can not?))
    2. Moore
      Moore 25 December 2018 03: 54
      +1
      Quote: Samara_63
      Organizations cannot appeal to the Court ...

      It's five.
    3. dogens
      dogens 25 December 2018 09: 25
      +1
      Yes, what are you saying) have you heard about the arbitration process?
      Quote: Samara_63
      Organizations cannot appeal to the Court ...
  9. Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 24 December 2018 18: 01
    +6
    It would be funny if it were not a sin. When the heirs of the conductors and pre-election dancers stop disgracing the country for the whole world: “Choose, or you will lose!” Or is it still only ten years left for the lekhtorats to drive in the desert, and then there is no need to strain: "Mumbled, get botvinya!"
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 24 December 2018 19: 25
      0
      Since understanding this, fear and critical thinking skills have atrophied.
  10. av58
    av58 24 December 2018 18: 18
    +9
    Rosgady offended, and fled to court. Joke laughing
    1. irazum
      irazum 24 December 2018 22: 14
      +2
      And they invited Old Men and Old Women as witnesses, who were "screwed" ...! What a shame, Lord ...
  11. Bondik05
    Bondik05 24 December 2018 18: 30
    +1
    This situation speaks volumes. The general was not at all clever in setting himself up with his duel. What if Navalny agreed? It would have been a beating by an oppositionist general, with all the consequences. Yes, and Navalny "cut in the back." But if such an ideological one, then it is not a shame to get in the face for your convictions. Immediately +100500 to karma and people's love for the sufferer. And it turned out as always "all for fun." Oding drew attention to the skills of hand-to-hand combat, another from the warm office exposed the embezzler. Our revolutionaries and their deprivations for their convictions immediately come to mind.
    1. irazum
      irazum 24 December 2018 22: 24
      0
      You are absolutely right! One, indeed, "substituted himself" like a preschooler, and the second does not know what to do with "victory", which, like this, fell into his hands by itself. Here some chess term comes to mind, but forgot, unfortunately, maybe someone will remind? Painfully all this "classics" reminds. Of the writers in my head, in this case, A.N. Ostrovsky. Sorry.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 25 December 2018 02: 52
      +3
      Quote: Bondik05
      And if Navalny agreed?
      So he agreed. But according to the rules of the duel, the person called to the duel has the right to independently choose a weapon. And the fact that these are not fists, as the near-minded General Zolotov wanted - this is his, Zolotov’s problem.
      Quote: Bondik05
      But if this is ideological, then it is not a shame to get in the face for your beliefs.
      And for what should he get in the face? Just because Putin’s dog Zolotov can’t do anything else?
  12. irazum
    irazum 24 December 2018 18: 38
    +3
    The duel should take place, and not in words, but in DEAL. Since he called, "general", be kind, there is one "BUT", in the Russian army, the "gendarmes" were not summoned to a duel and did not answer their "challenge" , because, they considered such a challenge beneath their own dignity. But maybe times have changed And Navalny will accept the challenge of the "guard" Zolotov?
  13. Graz
    Graz 24 December 2018 19: 53
    +2
    The Rosguard should not be engaged in a lawsuit over sausages and PR of duels-duels, it has other duties, but apparently they forgot about it, maybe it's time to change the leadership, let Mr. Zolotov engage in show-building and legal affairs in civilian life
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 24 December 2018 21: 32
      +1
      Maybe the opera is doing this. But Zolotov is not like that, he is for the truth, like a drummer of communist labor.
      1. irazum
        irazum 24 December 2018 22: 27
        +2
        Drummer "London City"! God save the queen!
  14. watchmaker
    watchmaker 24 December 2018 21: 41
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Social networks have already called the preparation of a lawsuit by the Russian Guard against RBC "an echo of a failed duel."
    To our great regret, but how many times have we already heard such threats against any "impudent" and where is at least one claim? Well, if you say: "A", say the whole alphabet to "Z"

    So they are all paid only for "A" in the State Department they do not know the Russian alphabet further.
  15. mag nit
    mag nit 24 December 2018 23: 22
    +3
    Chain dogs of Putin against RBC.
  16. iouris
    iouris 24 December 2018 23: 39
    +2
    The Russian Guard should be prohibited from filing lawsuits. All issues must be resolved in the ring.
  17. Catfish
    Catfish 25 December 2018 00: 00
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Stas157
    When already some representatives from the people, such as svp67, considered themselves stinkers, and oligophrenic Zolotov - gentlemen.

    If God did not give you MIND, then do not DEMONSTRATE it.


    Ay-yay-yay, mister moderator. Maybe you will slap yourself "bad" for breaking the rules, otherwise it somehow turns out badly - you have offended a person. hi
  18. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 25 December 2018 00: 21
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    A "mess" in the country - here and there - "noble"! That's for sure

    Everything is in motion - we used to be on our knees, but now we are crawling with cancer ... Progress! In the sense - "harvest".
  19. Radikal
    Radikal 25 December 2018 01: 28
    0
    Rosgvardiya decided to appeal to the courts. The reason for such a decision was the “inaccurate” data on deliveries to the agency, which was published by the RBC information publication.
    They have a "late ignition" ... winked
  20. Radikal
    Radikal 25 December 2018 01: 30
    0
    Quote: iouris
    The Russian Guard should be prohibited from filing lawsuits. All issues must be resolved in the ring.

    good good good wassat hi
  21. LeonidL
    LeonidL 25 December 2018 01: 30
    -2
    RBC and Failure are already by default the fifth column ...
  22. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 25 December 2018 04: 07
    +1
    - "In the opinion of the press service, there are gross inaccuracies in the named articles, due to which the situation around public procurement in Rosgvardia was presented to the public in a distorted form" - otherwise everything is to the point !!! why resignations began in the leadership of the "guard". A good "mine for a bad game".
  23. T-34
    T-34 25 December 2018 14: 24
    +1
    Do not be sad, gentlemen, officers,
    What we lost cannot be returned ...
    Let there be no fatherland, let alone faith
    And blood marked our difficult path.

    As long as clowns such as Navalny defame the name, honor and conscience of the Russian officer, a mess will be created in the country!
    It was necessary to think of such a thing that a responsible Officer should be convicted of petty and nasty financial fraud at the level of a thimble at the station?
    How can such accusations be made publicly, knowing about the glorious tradition of Russian officers - in the case of dirty accusations defaming honor and conscience - a bullet in the temple? In fact, Zolotov, by and large, would no longer have time for a duel, because after such accusations, the cartridges in the cage would already tear the gun barrel!
    It’s time to introduce some sort of ranking card so that such accusations against respected people are impossible! Today - Zolotov, and tomorrow who?
  24. Engineer
    Engineer 25 December 2018 15: 36
    0
    Yeah, they still don't respect him in the Russian Guard, and then the honor of the officer was dishonored. The price of an officer’s honor is 9g of lead, not lyam rubles.