Criminal prosecution of a Baltic Fleet naval aviation pilot terminated

The criminal prosecution of the pilot of the Russian Aerospace Forces - Senior Lieutenant Sergei Nefyodov ended. Recall that a criminal case against a marine pilot aviation Of the Baltic fleet It was instituted last year in connection with the damage to the Su-27P aircraft during the approach. It was the senior lieutenant Nefyodov who was flying the plane at that moment.

The cause of the damage to the fighter, as the investigation found out, was the erroneous switching by the pilot of the landing gear control system to the position in which the front post was removed - at a speed of about 250 km / h. As a result, the "Drying", on which the planned training flight was carried out, swept the nose of the runway. The pilot himself was not injured.

On termination of the criminal prosecution of the pilot, his mother Olga Nefedova told the media. According to her, which are given edition "Moscow Komsomol"The termination of the prosecution took place after the personal petition of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Sergei Shoigu. Officially, the defense ministry has not yet confirmed the request from its head.

Previously, many colleagues of Sergei Nefyodov asked the investigation to stop the prosecution of the serviceman, noting that the mistake was accidental and there was no malicious intent in it.

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

let the "accusers" show the class.

[dauria]

Yes earlier would have cost "three salaries" - and business is over. They beat cars before, and into the trash. And there have always been erroneous actions. Where did the criminal offense come from? Have you gone crazy?

[raw174]

Quote: dauria

And always erroneous actions were and will be.

That's why they are training flights. But the investigation must be conducted so that the trainer fixes the material. In the end, there was a pike in the lake so that the gudgeon did not doze off ... Well, that ended well.

[alexmach]

But the investigation must be conducted so that the trainer fixes the material.

I will disappoint you, but the investigation is not for this, but in order to understand the causes and circumstances of what happened.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: alexmach

..disappointing, but the investigation is not for this, but in order to understand the causes and circumstances of what happened.

An investigation is being conducted to sort out, and not to appoint a guilty party. In history, we are looking for darkness of examples ..., just darkness. It is simply not clever to kill people for nothing. Now the groups in the parade are driven by a pilot who, when he was a passenger, damaged a plane on landing and didn’t harm God, thank God.

[aiden]

You do not know our result. It is carried out in order to punish someone, and not necessarily the culprit. Now the meteorite will fall, and someone will be appointed vinvl

[nerd.su]

Quote: aiden

Now the meteorite will fall, and someone will be appointed vinvl

Yes, there’s a meteorite in the Far East that demolished a mountain, blocked the river, in the air defense, the repression will begin

[svp67]

Quote: dauria

Where did the crime come from? Are you crazy?

From the "military prosecutor's office" or "SK", everyone wants an extra "stick"

[Piramidon]

Quote: svp67

From the "military prosecutor's office" or "SK",

I wonder if you ask these procurators what a "chassis" is - will they be able to answer?

[svp67]

Quote: Piramidon

I wonder if you ask these procurators what a "chassis" is - will they be able to answer?

For that they perfectly pronounce and know the meaning of the word "jurisprudence"

[Piramidon]

Quote: svp67

For that they perfectly pronounce and know the meaning of the word "jurisprudence"

Claudia did not break in law?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: svp67

From the "military prosecutor's office" or "SK",

I wonder if you ask these procurators what a "chassis" is - will they be able to answer?

Of course they will be able to answer - they say - a rack with a wheel. But if they are checked with partiality for their "mistakes", they will probably find more than one, and not only in compliance with the procedural code.

[Siberian 66]

And this is a new trend ... and everywhere

[kakvastam]

Quote: Sibiryak 66

And this is a new trend ... and everywhere

What is he new ...
This mechanism is regularly activated - in France at the end of the eighteenth century, and in our country in the thirties of the twentieth, and in the States in the fifties - if there is an opportunity to earn money or make a career on someone else’s blood, there are always those who want to use it.

[helmi8]

Quote: dauria

And always erroneous actions were and will be.

The "human factor" is not going anywhere. Well, starting a criminal case is a clear overkill. How crazy do you need to be to consciously (or intentionally) create this?

[novobranets]

Quote: helmi8

How crazy is it to be in order to consciously (or intentionally) do this?

He is not a suicide, after all.

[helmi8]

Quote: novobranets

He is not a suicide, after all.

I’m talking about this ...

[novobranets]

Quote: helmi8

I’m talking about this ...

And me too. It is clear that the pilot should receive a disciplinary sanction, nevertheless, the materiel is damaged through his fault. But the criminal case, in my opinion, is simply stupid. What malicious intent can be here if the pilot himself could die.

[Albertcoin]

Dear, this is not too much. This is our law, it is impossible under the law to conduct expert examinations and interrogate people outside the framework of a criminal case! It is impossible. And here is a decision on a criminal case ... Here you can already talk about 37 and 38 years!

[DarkMatter]

Quote: dauria

Where did the crime come from? Are you crazy?

Good news, otherwise it was just a nightmare. The saddest thing is everywhere. Whoever did this will not be punished. Complete lawlessness and impunity in the country - this is why the mess is. All through the fifth point, while Putin or Shoigu personally will not fit in. Madhouse.
They also want to raise aviation, report on new aircraft. Just what are they for show, if there are no pilots. The old will run away from this outrage, the new will not go.

[gurzuf]

And no one has yet canceled the stick system.

[Okolotochny]

The amount of damage, the subjective side - most likely saw criminal negligence. A careless form of guilt, there was no intent, but criminal negligence (according to the investigation) was.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: dauria

Yes earlier would have cost "three salaries" - and business is over. They beat cars before, and into the trash. And there have always been erroneous actions. Where did the criminal offense come from? Have you gone crazy?

From where from?
And where to get "enemies of the people"?

[loki565]

If there was no deliberate damage to property, then ugovalka is too much. Reprimand, re-confirmation of qualifications

[Nevsky_ZU]

Anything can happen. On the one hand, state-owned expensive equipment, machinery. On the other hand, randomness is kind of like. On the third hand, the principle of punishment so that everyone is careful afterwards. On the other hand, often the transcendental struggle for the survivability of cars and tragedy ... A person dies, which is already a tragedy, and a specialist in whom the state has invested.

[Pivot]

Yes, it happens that the guy made a mistake, he stayed alive, I remember how during the exercises the soldier under the beter made a fire and the car burned out like a wrecker, and if he dribbled deeper, he was ordered by the elder to warm Carter's pallets in the cold, there was no blowtorch, the car burned out and who the kid is to blame, the cast which is also the kid but older or the one who did not provide blowtorches frost.

[Mouse]

The termination of the criminal prosecution occurred after a personal request of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu

and without Shoigu in any way?

[Vadim Zhivov]

Probably the pilot got all the brains out. The one who does nothing is not mistaken ...

[Black sniper]

Previously, many colleagues of Sergei Nefyodov asked the investigation to stop the prosecution of the serviceman, noting that the mistake was accidental and there was no malicious intent in it.
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The human factor has not been canceled by anyone, everything happens, the main thing is that it didn’t die. What evil intent can there be at all if a pilot can die as a result of an error.

[Alexander X]

I believe that the initiation of a criminal case is a standard procedure in such accidents. An investigation is underway in the framework of the excited angle. cases precisely on the FACT OF THE ACCIDENT. The versions of possible sabotage, pilot errors, etc. are being investigated. And since it was found that this was only a pilot's mistake, and not a "cut hydraulic line", for example, the investigator concludes that there is no corpus delicti and the case is closed for lack of corpus delicti. And the journalists in the article turned everything inside out. And they showed the situation so that, as it were, the pilot was almost condemned ... Eh For the red father, they will not regret their father either ...

[DarkMatter]

You can count anything.
But where does the initiation of the case, if it sentenced to two years conditionally with payments to state-wu 27 mil rubles. Moreover, the plane was flying in a month.

[Alexander X]

I was not aware of this incident. And it is not clear from the text of the article that he has already been convicted. On the contrary, it is written: "Let us remind you that a criminal case against the pilot of the Baltic Fleet naval aviation was initiated last year." The words that the pilot had not found a conviction already ... The Losers wrote an article ... And what does it mean to stop the criminal prosecution? Moreover, if he has already been convicted. Amnestied, rehabilitated, revised / canceled the sentence due to newly discovered circumstances, was the cassation complaint taken into account by a higher judicial body? And how is it possible that they asked for and stopped persecuting the convict? Kindergarten in pants with straps ...
But it pleases that the person is now not convicted of a criminal court!

[Ryazan87]

Quote: Alexander X

I believe that initiating a criminal case is a standard procedure for such accidents.

Indeed, criminal proceedings are instituted in such cases. Sergei Nefedov was charged under Art. 351 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Violation of flight rules and preparation for them” (case number 1-3 / 2018 (1-131 / 2017;)
From the materials of the case: ".... 2 seconds after the main wheels touched the runway at the end of the precision landing strip, the pilot lowered the nose wheel. After 1 second of run on three wheels the pilot erroneously, inadvertently instead of pressing the parachute release button, set the landing gear crane switch to the retracted position. "
Nefedov S.A. He was found guilty and convicted of violating flight rules, resulting in negligence and other serious consequences (violation of clause 31 of the Federal Aviation Rules for flying state aviation, clause 4.3.6. Guidelines for the flight operation of Su-27). The Kaliningrad Garrison Military Court (1st instance) sentenced him to 2 years probation. This sentence was quashed by the Baltic Fleet Military Court (appeal). So think about whether they condemned him or not.
R.S. Nevertheless, there are publicly available sentences (GAS Justice to help).

[Alexander X]

Well, now everything is clear: an appeal was filed with the naval military court (the standard action of the convict’s lawyer, in case the defendant is convicted). He (naval military court) quashed the verdict of the court of first instance. If the correspondent wrote everything this way, and not with the Chinese code, then this discussion would not have happened ... Thanks for the link. In this case, he himself would not begin to search for court materials on the Internet.
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I did not have time to write words about the cassation, as I had a lot of advertisements on my computer with the offer of the services of lawyers. Big brother takes care of us continuously

[DarkMatter]

So that's the point. The incident occurred in May last year, in 2017. A man was cheated until February of this year, where he was sentenced to 2 years probation and 27 million rubles. Although the planes \ tanks, etc. fall \ fight always and everywhere, and will continue to fall \ fight. Without this, it’s life. You will not teach a person anything unless you teach him. Then in March the court of second instance sent the case for further investigation after the appeal.
During this time, people were in shock, not only him, but also everyone who understands the situation. They were going to hold pickets there (it wasn’t aware of \ no), and they wrote letters. The newspapers reported that the commander of the naval aviation himself had filed a motion to dismiss the case and he ... was rejected.
Right now, Shoigu intervened and, like a man, was saved. In manual mode!
But now let's think about whether he will be able to defend the country, whether he will want to, especially how the "country" has treated him? How will other young guys react to this situation? What part of them will change their minds and we will miss pilots, mechanics, etc.? After all, everything is new and expensive. Who wants to owe so much money as they will never see in their entire life? Or even go to jail? There are not enough personnel, and so there will be even fewer of them.
In my opinion, this is a direct threat to the country's defense, these irresponsible people should not only be removed from work forever, but also open an appropriate case under the relevant article. Only who will do it? Nothing will change. Well, at least the guy did. That’s the thing here.

Big brother takes care of us continuously

Scary to live In general, we have nothing to hide)

[Alexander X]

Yes, unfair court decisions undermine faith not only in the judicial system, but also in the state itself ... I agree to 1000%. I think that this officer will not serve further in the RA. And how much money the state spent on its preparation! Of course, this is an undermining of defense. What military prosecutors and judges were only thinking of when passing a guilty verdict ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: DarkMatter

In general, we have nothing to hide)

Hmmm .... well, maybe a bottle of brandy from my wife ....

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexander X

I did not have time to write words about the cassation, as I had a lot of advertisements on my computer with the offer of the services of lawyers.

These are also "flowers" ... "Berries" twig when these advertisements come out after ... talking about the subject of interest (there are already a lot of similar cases). There is no longer a "brother", but a complete "dad" looks after.

[Conductor]

Canceled by the court of appeal? or all the same, if the intervention of Shoigu. then the cancellation of the sentence in a higher court or a pardon, but it is up to the President, but to restore the service? Repeal of sentence, in whole or in part? or a new investigation in a new composition?

[VIT101]

Quote: Alexander X

I believe that initiating a criminal case is a standard procedure for such accidents.

Nothing like this. In Soviet times, aviation was an order of magnitude larger and, accordingly, there were many similar flight accidents and prerequisites for them. But in order to accuse the pilot of a deliberate flight accident during landing with the landing gear removed, they couldn’t think of that then. And never in such cases have any criminal cases been opened. Responsibility, as a rule, was limited to disciplinary measures up to writing off from the flight.
This example once again shows what senility the current law enforcement system has reached. They do not have enough strength or desire for swindlers in power (including those with big stars on shoulder straps), and they will completely bite this pilot.

[Okolotochny]

The case is not closed for lack of composition, it is not instituted. First by checking the materials. If excited, and it turns out the lack of composition - the investigator lathers his ass.

[Cananecat]

And what was the military prosecutor's office trying to impute to him? That the pilot deliberately went to cause damage? What is it like? Understanding what the drying nose can lead to "scratching on concrete", I decided to check? Are they smart friends there?

[Marconi41]

They sewed criminal negligence. The most common article from prosecutors regarding the military.

[ODERVIT]

A pilot's mistake in operation is always painful, especially for colleagues. Is such an opportunity justified? It is difficult to express ourselves unambiguously, because the demandingness of commanders for operational errors on the ground is much higher. But in any case, once the court has decided, there is the truth. With the upcoming colleagues, aviators.

[ANCIENT]

It’s good that they didn’t begin to cheat a person further - we can break our career, or life can easily.

[Ustin]

The guy was just lucky! Shoigu is most likely not doing business here. I don’t know about his career ...

[lot]

What happens if you break a combat fighter
https://varlamov.ru/3221215.html

[Wizzzard]

I have already written in another thread about the appeal of AVVAKUL veterans (among the signatories are very, very respected people, professionals, such as Honored Pilot of Russia, Major General Viktor Fisul). Here is what veterans write in their letter:

““ For us it has always been and is an axiom that an error must be perceived as a normal component of any system in which a person and technology interact ... What is the pilot's fault? For 22 hours of flight in five years?»
The last phrase was crippled. But this is not written Sobchachka a couple with Navalny. The names and merits of the authors of the appeal are very easy to verify. But:
"For 22 hours of flight in five years?"

[faridg7]

Well, I think 22 hours after all, not in 5 years, but in three. For with such a raid as a lieutenant could leave the school. If you count five years, then for the one who got the title of starling after the incident, it turns out that over the past two courses at the school, Sergey flew in less than 20 hours. If this is true, then a handful of people should be judged, starting from the head of the school and his deputy for flight training (releasing a cadet without a raid is a crime), ending with the commanders in part (this is how to plan work so that such a raid was in part). Most likely looking at this and hushed up the case, and the case received quite wide publicity.

[Wizzzard]

That's the way it is, but why should General Fisulu lie in an appeal that was done quite publicly? A micro-raid hours may depend on a host of other factors, and not just on the failure of the school’s leadership and part command. Such factors are known to you for sure better than me.

[Ryazan87]

22 hours on the Su-27. But not all.

[Wizzzard]

Substantial amendment (without jokes and jerking). However, even in this scenario: 22 hours for 5 years. This is 4 hours 24 minutes per year. What gives 22 minutes per month. Well, further sharing is not even funny.

[faridg7]

Quote: Ryazanets87

22 hours on the Su-27. But not all.

Even so, then there can be no talk of a mastered type, which means that there can be no talk of access to independent flights.

Quote: Wizzzard

A micro-flight hours may depend on a host of other factors, and not just on the gouging of the leadership of the school and the command of the unit.

The admission to an independent flight of an unflown lieutenant with a scanty raid is the top of command professionalism. Although, maybe they just had no one to put in a cup at all and it was just dictated by severe necessity?

[Wizzzard]

Well, I think 22 hours are not for 5 years, but for three

Well, not for 5, for 3 - and this figure does not drive into a stupor?

[VIT101]

Clarification: Honored Pilot of Russia Major General Victor FisuN

[Wizzzard]

A typo. Who hurt - please forgive. Separately, an apology to General V. Fisun.

[Dzafdet]

The control system must be changed so that such situations do not occur: landing lock, voice notification, flashing light with a siren ....

[would]

Here it would be worth noting that this error became generally possible due to a designer's mistake that was prescribed to be fixed back in 2004, but this was not done. So basically the blame was blamed on the young pilot for all those responsible for this, made extreme.

Moreover, on aircraft modification Su-27P, this, as it turned out, is generally considered a system error. She is promoted by one serious ergonomic drawback of the cabin. Test pilots demanded that the designers eliminate it while testing the machine. They wrote: Lock the landing gear crane when the plane is already on the ground.

This drawback was listed in the first stage of development work, noted in the test report, approved by the Air Force Commander-in-Chief on November 19, 2004, but was not eliminated.

That is, it is a matter of the fact that aircraft designers placed control levers in the cockpit without taking into account possible human behavioral reactions, thereby not creating reliable protection against accidental cleaning of the landing gear of an airplane that has already landed on a runway.

Case materials. Expert assessment of the ergonomics of the cockpit of the Su-27P (the document was signed by seven senior test pilots in the rank from major to colonel):

“During state joint tests of the aircraft ... with the flight personnel of military unit 15650, the following ergonomic drawback of the cockpit was revealed: there is no blocking of landing gear cleaning on the ground.

... Levers, the incorrect or accidental inclusion of which can lead to an emergency, must be highlighted in shape, color, have a safety device and, if necessary, must be removed from the dashboard from the general row.

Conclusion: the lack of locking the landing gear on the ground on a Su-27P aircraft is an ergonomic flaw and a violation of the requirements of paragraph 4.6.1 of OTT VVS-86, book 1, part 2, which can lead to unintentional landing gear landing on the ground. ”

[t-4]

Your explanation is certainly qualified. However, a number of questions arise.
- Su-27P adopted for service in 1990, in operation since 1985. Why only after almost 20 years of operation appeared "List of the first stage of development work" noted in the test report approved by the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force on November 19, 2004when the old Su-27 was already thinking about what to do in retirement.
- Why only SU-27P? And other modifications - the Su-27S, and of course the combat training Su-27UB, later ending with the Su-35S. Is there a lock on the landing gear? In general, is she standing somewhere? Is it on the Tu-160?

[faiver]

I'm shocked, really the country of the absurd, in my opinion, military prosecutors and a judge must be disqualified and driven from the army into the national economy with retention of the costs of the criminal case and the trial, plus the payment of moral damage to Nefedov

[loki565]

If you squint at work, do you get bonuses ???

[faiver]

No, of course, having experience in managing a specialized motor transport company, he dealt with every accident from and to, but did not bring the punishment to such an absurdity.

[Conductor]

Remember the Meeting Places cannot be changed, 5 series "Was there no intent here, not a terrorist attack!

[Avior]

frankly, in the 21st century, protection against such errors should be the default

[ZVS]

Prudence finally prevailed!

[Ros 56]

Maybe I didn’t understand something, like the chassis is always removed synchronously and the bow rack and the main ones are also available. Maybe someone knows the essence of the issue?

[faridg7]

Quote: Ros 56

Maybe I didn’t understand something, like the chassis is always removed synchronously and the bow rack and the main ones are also available. Maybe someone knows the essence of the issue?

The racks under load cannot exit the locks, and the rear racks were already on the concrete

[nathanael]

On the simulator let them train more ..

[loki565]

MISTAKES and who will pay ???

[Evil 55]

As they taught and received .. I won’t be surprised if a raid from him, unlike the CP or the ZKP, is several times less ... so as not to pay more ..

[seacap]

Quote: Angry 55

As they taught and received .. I won’t be surprised if a raid from him, unlike the CP or the ZKP, is several times less ... so as not to pay more ..

You need to start with the so-called reforms of higher military education, with the fact that the number of oldest and legendary schools with their specific thorough scientific school has been destroyed, upscale teachers and instructors have been dismissed, the system of training and education of cadets has been destroyed.

[eleronn]

Personally witnessed a similar incident! In 1995, on a summer night, while taxiing to the parking lot, the Su-27ub pilot switched the landing gear crane (lever on the front dashboard) instead of turning off the taxi headlights (toggle switch on the left horizontal flap).

[seacap]

They’ve already become completely stupefied with idleness in organs, rightly, for mistakes and inexperience it’s easier and safer to hammer a person, completely discouraging him from all his desire to do what he loves and further creative initiative, instead of analyzing the error in detail and avoiding this later and by increasing flight hours and classes on the simulator. Indeed, to investigate real crimes, knowledge and creativity are required, it is hard, routine, long time hard labor, and it can be fraught with further career and life, it’s easier to hammer out and finish off an older one, quickly and revealingly and the bosses will stroke .

[seacap]

Quote: eleronn

Personally witnessed a similar incident!

If this is repeated or even possible, then this is the work of ergonomics, for designers, the question is purely technical, and not for special practitioners and prosecutors.