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In Taiwan, they said that Beijing threatened to hold a referendum

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China decided to respond to the past largest history Taiwan's election to government. The Chinese authorities call the holding of elections on the island an illegal step, since they were not coordinated with official Beijing. Recall that the PRC considers Taiwan its part, with which in Taipei strongly disagree.


In Taiwan, they said that Beijing threatened to hold a referendum


It should be noted that in addition to elections to various authorities in Taiwan, a referendum was held about a month ago on a number of issues, including the question of abandoning nuclear energy, as well as the use of the name of the national team at the future Tokyo Olympiad 2020. Taipei says that at the 2020 Games, Taiwan will perform for the first time under this name, and not under the name “Chinese Taipei”, as it has been all past years.

Against this backdrop, the PLA Air Force and Navy Command sent four combat aircraft and two warships toward Taiwan. On board were missile weapons. In the Taiwanese media, there were publications that Beijing threatened with missiles for the elections and the referendum.

A fighter was raised from Taiwan airfields aviation, which accompanied the aircraft of the air force of China.

PLA Navy ships sailed off the southeastern coast of Taiwan, as reported by local media.

During the briefing of the official representative of the main military department of China, journalists asked what caused the Chinese military activity off the coast of the island. A spokesman for the PRC’s Ministry of Defense, Wu Qian, said that "Taiwan is an integral part of the People's Republic of China," and therefore the appearance of PLA combat ships and ships in this area "cannot be considered something extraordinary." According to the official of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, we are talking about standard military exercises.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 23 December 2018 07: 42
    +6
    Why are small, but it seems, very proud, so boldly begin to tease those with whom all agreed before?
    Where in this case and which dog rummaged?
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 23 December 2018 07: 55
      +3
      Probably this is because behind these small, but incredibly proud formations there is a big and strong * someone *! Here they have a surge of strength. The same Yankees offhand.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 December 2018 07: 59
        +2
        We looked at the BV. There, this one, big and strong, did not behave very correctly, with his faithful allies!
        Ali, all sorts of little ones and proud ones are sure that this is not about them? for the future! soldier
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 23 December 2018 08: 01
          +1
          They hope, well, about hope that this time, well, certainly not about them! stop
      2. Russia
        Russia 23 December 2018 08: 01
        +3
        Such a small, I will even say tiny "Ukraine" for China, but there are still problems.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 23 December 2018 08: 08
          0
          They will succeed, they will succeed, guys are tough.
          1. Russia
            Russia 23 December 2018 08: 15
            +4
            I agree, the main thing is to be decided and much will immediately fall into place. smile
    2. Tarhan
      Tarhan 23 December 2018 10: 01
      +3
      Why are small, but it seems, very proud, so boldly begin to tease those with whom all agreed before?

      Until 1945, the Kuomintang party founded by Sun Yat-sen ruled China. This party in 1926 united all of China and was, in one form or another, legitimate by force. The Kuomintang fought against the Japanese invaders from the late 30s to 1945s. In 1945, the Mao Communist Party strengthened, with weapons left by the Red Army. Mao begins an active armed seizure of power. And this is the top of illegitimacy.

      In 1949, the seizure of power took place throughout continental China. The LEGAL government, the Kuomintang party, was forced to relocate to Taiwan.

      Hence the paradox of the political moment. A legitimate, legitimate government is in Taiwan. The illegal government that seized power by a military coup is Beijing. By all international laws and regulations, this Taiwan government is the rightful heir to the statehood of all of China.

      But of course it is only legally. And the status quo is the existence of two Chinas today.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 December 2018 10: 17
        +1
        There is nothing particularly new in this, the recognition and support of external political players, states, this is the determining criterion for the solvency of the state today.
        Striped and others like him promise a lot, but will they trample against the PRC ??? For the interests of the small, proud, the question is open.
      2. Tarhan
        Tarhan 23 December 2018 10: 25
        +1
        And further. For the interest.

        From 907 to 1125, Northern China was ruled by the Khitan invaders who came from Manchuria. They called their power in North China - the state of Liao. In 1125, the Khitan were defeated by the Maritime Jurchen. The Jurchen Dynasty, in Northern China, replaced the Khitan Dynasty.

        Some Khitan recognized the power of the Jurchen, another part went into the territory of modern southeastern Kazakhstan and formed their own state - Western Liao.

        Local Turks, there were still not all, without exception, black-haired, there were both fair-haired and gray-eyed. The Turks got these genes from the assimilation of the European Aryans by the Iranian-speaking language group. But the Khitan who came all were black hairs.

        And the Turks called them karakitai. Kytai is the Turkic pronunciation of the word Khitan. Kara is black in Turkic. That is, the Karakitai are black Kytai (Khitan).

        During the Golden Horde, the Russian language, from Turkic, included the word Kytai - China, as the designation of a large country in the east - China. The very name of the Native Chinese is Han. The western name of China is Cina.

        Western Liao ceased to exist under the pressure of the Turkic troops of Genghis Khan.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 23 December 2018 10: 32
          +1
          History, science is deep, interesting for general development.
    3. den3080
      den3080 23 December 2018 10: 20
      +2
      The plane in the picture resembles the Tu-104, which (redone) is wrong and is essentially.
      Experts, correct if I am mistaken. You are welcome.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 December 2018 10: 35
        +2
        This is a clone of the Tu-16. They upgrade it, upgrade it, etc.
        1. Storm
          Storm 23 December 2018 13: 06
          +1
          The Tu-16, I think, has already exhausted all the modernization potential. Where is the replacement?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 December 2018 14: 06
            +1
            For objective reasons, China does not rely on long-range aviation. They did not invent anything new, did not buy, carried out a deep modernization of the Tu-16 and that’s all. This suits them right now.
            But the development of the fleet is at an accelerated pace.
      2. albert
        albert 23 December 2018 19: 32
        0
        Quote: den3080
        The plane in the picture resembles a Tu-104

        That's right. The Tu-104 is actually a civilian version of the Tu-16.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 23 December 2018 10: 57
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Why are small, but it seems, very proud, so boldly begin to tease those with whom all agreed before?
      Where in this case and which dog rummaged?

      And who could it be?
      This is such an average translation from a Chinese site: https: //www.rfa.org/mandarin/yataibaodao/gangtai/hcm-12182018093418.html
      earlier this year, the US Congress passed the Taiwan Travel Act, led by Corey Gardner, chair of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee for Asia and the Pacific, the Asia Security Initiative Act 2018. The Federal Senate and the House of Representatives voted unanimously on December 4 and 12, respectively.
      The bill reaffirms the United States' commitment to Taiwan security through the Taiwan Relations Act and the Six Guarantees. He calls on President Trump to regularly sell weapons to Taiwan and calls on senior US officials to visit Taiwan in accordance with the Taiwan Travel Act.
  2. Proton
    Proton 23 December 2018 07: 42
    +6
    My cat, Jacob, behaves with fat the way the States do, then a referendum will suit the bowl, then we will .. heap and skak, mad with fat laughing
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 23 December 2018 07: 58
      0
      My Phil also loves to arrange a referendum at the trough! fellow
      1. Proton
        Proton 23 December 2018 08: 02
        +3
        According to the constitution, I treat him with a broom when I break laughing
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 23 December 2018 08: 05
          0
          Well, you are a radical! laughing And I’m going to negotiations. But if without jokes, for the 2 years that he has been with us, there was not a single heap! Just smart.
        2. dauria
          dauria 23 December 2018 09: 57
          +1
          I him according to the constitution with a broom


          "Constitution ..." .... We just have a monarchy, and the king is definitely not me ...
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. Sofa expert
        Sofa expert 23 December 2018 08: 14
        +6
        if you have referenda, then we have a whole maidan !! :)
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 23 December 2018 08: 18
          0
          Handsome! fellow And how much he (she? I can’t determine from the photo.) But he seems to be a little boy.
          1. Sofa expert
            Sofa expert 23 December 2018 13: 38
            0
            In November, 5 years old :) gave me a piece of beef 5 kg :)
  3. Miron
    Miron 23 December 2018 08: 09
    0
    Without a major war that would do the same harm to China as the war ended in 1945, Taiwan’s ambitions are doomed.

    Unfortunately, experience suggests that coercion by sanctions and access to easy investments in the war in 1941 turned Germany's head off. Therefore, hope for the rationality of thinking of politicians in China and Europe will not work.
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 23 December 2018 08: 52
    +1
    Here you have another point that sooner or later blazes with war. ..
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 December 2018 09: 03
      +3
      Quote: ANCIENT
      Here you have another point that sooner or later blazes with war.

      If it burns, then China will not start a war. And the one who, from behind a puddle of Taiwan, taunts, promising various nishtyaki. Vitalyevich, hello! hi
    2. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 23 December 2018 09: 18
      0
      China uses soft power, and this is just a statement of rights from China.
  5. 3vs
    3vs 23 December 2018 08: 53
    +2
    Taiwanese do not want to live in China ...
    1. Dude
      Dude 23 December 2018 09: 10
      0
      Quote: 3vs
      Taiwanese do not want to live in China ...

      And have to! laughing Sooner or later
      1. 3vs
        3vs 23 December 2018 09: 12
        0
        It’s not a fact that if the will to be independent is strong, the Chinese will not do anything except to throw an island with nuclear missiles.
        1. Dude
          Dude 23 December 2018 09: 16
          0
          The Chinese, despite the political differences, are very united. What's on the mainland, what's on the island is China. Sooner or later they will solve this issue, I think.
          1. 3vs
            3vs 23 December 2018 09: 20
            0
            I do not think that Ukraine and Belarus are not eager to unite with Russia, and this is the same here.
            1. Dude
              Dude 23 December 2018 09: 35
              +1
              Separate people and power. And in fact, and in another case.
              And by the way, try, in a conversation with the Chinese, to speak badly, derogatoryly, or even negatively about Taiwan and the Chinese who inhabit it. I think you will be very surprised at the change in the tone of the conversation hi
              1. 3vs
                3vs 23 December 2018 09: 37
                0
                The opinion is not of the Chinese, but of the Taiwanese themselves on this issue.
                Like the Ukrainians and Belarusians.
                1. Dude
                  Dude 23 December 2018 10: 25
                  0
                  Believe me, with the Taiwanese, if you "run into" mainland China, there will be about the same reaction. There are, of course, nuances, but not the Chinese will not understand them. This is their internal showdown.
                  I noticed that even in the discussion of an article on the problems of Taiwan-China relations, you persistently pedal the topic of relations between the Slavic peoples of the former USSR. Let me ask, for what purpose? stop
                  If you insist, my personal opinion is that unification is inevitable. Or, sooner or later, we will unite, or die out, like mammoths. More precisely, they will simply devour us. Just like mammoths ((
                  If you are interested in the opinion of Ukrainians and Belarusians, ask them yourself. hi
                  1. 3vs
                    3vs 23 December 2018 10: 56
                    0
                    "Believe me, with the Taiwanese, if you" run into "mainland China, there will be about the same reaction. There are, of course, nuances, but not the Chinese they will be incomprehensible."
                    What do you leave the topic, not about the conversation that if a foreigner will water a Chinese, and a Taiwanese will tear a shirt on his chest for a Chinese and vice versa, and the question is whether Taiwanese people want to be Chinese citizens and not
                    their small country.
                    "You are persistently pedaling the topic of relations between the Slavic peoples of the former USSR. Let me ask you for what purpose?"
                    I do not pedal the topic of relations between Slavic peoples, but I give as an example, if you ask a question to Belarusians and Ukrainians, do they want to live in Russia or it is better for them in their own country.
                    You do not want so, an example of North and South Koreas, do South Koreans want to live in a united North Korea ?!
                    As Comrade Sukhov said - "It is unlikely!"
                    "If you insist, my personal opinion is that unification is inevitable. Either, sooner or later, we will unite, or we will die out like mammoths. More precisely, we will simply be devoured. Just like mammoths (("
                    It is quite possible, but the peoples should be ready for this, and this has not yet been observed, although the Holy Fathers have prophesied that Russia will again be gathered from pieces, God forbid!
                    "If you are interested in the opinion of Ukrainians and Belarusians, ask them yourself."
                    I think our competent authorities are somehow analyzing the information.
                    Because we have Crimea, but Donbass is not ours ...
                    1. Dude
                      Dude 23 December 2018 12: 54
                      0
                      What do you leave the topic, not about the conversation that if a foreigner will water a Chinese, and a Taiwanese will tear a shirt on his chest for a Chinese and vice versa, and the question is whether Taiwanese people want to be Chinese citizens and not
                      their small country.

                      Where am I leaving the topic? On the contrary! You just do not understand me a bit. Well, maybe I got my point across badly.
                      I do not argue that Taipei and Beijing, as well as the citizens of both countries, have enough contradictions. AND, at the momentThese are 2 different states. But for most Chinese, on the one hand, and on the other hand, China is one. Not now, but in principle. I think they will unite. Under what conditions, when, and how is another question.
                      . You do not want so, an example of North and South Koreas, do South Koreans want to live in a united North Korea ?!
                      As Comrade Sukhov said - "It is unlikely!"
                      In my opinion, you are a little out of material. For Koreans doesn’t exist, a prioriother development of events than the unification of the country. How and when is the most difficult question, but what for the North, what for the South is the main goal. Of course, the gulf that separates them is deep, but they are persistent guys. And, especially, if no one bothers them, the integration processes will increase, and, ultimately, they will achieve their goal.
                      1. 3vs
                        3vs 23 December 2018 13: 07
                        0
                        This is the business of the people of China, Taiwan and both Koreas themselves.
                        They want to unite, the flag in their hands, the main conscious union, without blood and pressure from the outside.
                      2. Dude
                        Dude 23 December 2018 13: 14
                        0
                        Finally, it dawned on you that I told you. hi
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 December 2018 23: 43
      0
      They do not want to live in China under the control of the CCP.
  6. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 23 December 2018 09: 17
    +1
    China will take Taiwan (value judgment)
  7. midshipman
    midshipman 23 December 2018 10: 00
    +1
    Not only threatening. It is necessary to make several warning launches on neutral waters.
  8. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH 23 December 2018 10: 38
    0
    Odessa headline wrote?)) In Russian: holding a referendum)
  9. Hypersound
    Hypersound 23 December 2018 11: 48
    -2
    Russia and China are slowly starting to divide the post-Pndos world
  10. Legend
    Legend 23 December 2018 11: 58
    +4
    Taiwan is China! Like the Russian Crimea!
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 December 2018 23: 47
      0
      In fact, no one in Taiwan denies this. But they do not want to live in China in the form of the PRC, led by the CCP.
  11. Piramidon
    Piramidon 23 December 2018 12: 50
    +1
    Beautiful car Tu-16 (Xian H-6).
  12. irazum
    irazum 24 December 2018 17: 44
    0
    They are the same Chinese! Well, they do not want communism! Is it really bad for anyone in the world?