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Volker told Ukraine why the United States will not disconnect Russia from SWIFT

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Kurt Walker, the special representative of the US State Department for Ukraine, spoke about the anti-Russian sanctions and the possibility of their next expansion. Volker shared his thoughts on anti-Russian pressure with the Kiev newspaper "Day". One of the topics that interested Ukrainian journalists is connected with earlier initiatives to disconnect Russia from SWIFT. A journalist asked Volcker if the United States is ready to use against Russia “Crippling sanctions”as "in relation to Iran."


Volker told Ukraine why the United States will not disconnect Russia from SWIFT


Volker, answering this question, said that he hoped for an accurate translation of English-language statements. His statement is as follows:
This (disconnecting the RF from SWIFT) will be "Nuclear option"because it will not only affect Russia, but also our allies. Therefore, such sanctions cannot be excluded, but they are exactly are not what can be used by us.


Volker clearly made it clear to Kiev that the United States is not going to disconnect Russia from the international payment system. And explained why. - For the simple reason that it will cause a serious economic blow to those who carry out trade deals with Russia - and these are hundreds of companies from Europe, North America, Southeast Asia and other continents, where the USA "found" "allies" for themselves .

Then Volker turned to an attempt to “reassure” the agitated Ukrainian journalists with streamlined statements about the need to “strengthen transatlantic unity”. At the same time, the American special representative added that the United States would not “go too far ahead, since the European allies may perceive this as a confrontation between Washington and Moscow.”

Walker:
But this is not so.


And all this is also against the background of statements about the unwillingness of NATO to accept Ukraine into its membership.

After such a statement, Ukrainian journalists showed an even greater bout of frustration.

Volker simply could not openly say that Washington is much more interested in acting with Ukrainian hands, and not get involved in a real confrontation with Russia using its own forces and means.

In an interview, Volker added that he intends to meet with Vladislav Surkov and discuss "all the latest events," including the incident in the Black Sea.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 22 December 2018 08: 10
    +32
    Underdevelopment, this is so inherent in dill. These naive fools still don’t even realize that they are simply being used. Americans will never do anything that could harm their pockets, there are more because of some kind of Ukraine.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 22 December 2018 08: 12
      +7
      It is clear why the Ukrainians listen to any nonsense of Volker - he is a representative of their masters. Well, for us, the Russians, it should be deeply "spit saliva" on the words of this, do not understand who)))
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 22 December 2018 08: 22
        +23
        Quote: Chertt
        The US will not "go too far, as European allies may perceive this as a confrontation between Washington and Moscow."

        Yeah, it turns out: "I'll stand behind your back"! yes
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 December 2018 08: 31
          +15
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          "I'll stand behind your back!"

          will fight with us "Until the last urkaints"
          1. krot
            krot 22 December 2018 08: 47
            +14
            Sykov disconnect us from SWIFT! Because, as they know, we have already stocked up the option of alternative payments. And if it works, it will be another nail in the US coffin!
            1. atos_kin
              atos_kin 22 December 2018 09: 37
              +20
              They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.
              1. Nikolay Fedorov
                Nikolay Fedorov 22 December 2018 11: 04
                +10
                Quote: atos_kin
                They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.

                Well, yes ... Just a few days ago, "Russian Aluminum" was taken away, having forced out Deripaska from there. Now they need Swift for Russia, as for themselves relatives.
                1. jjj
                  jjj 22 December 2018 11: 39
                  +7
                  A couple of years ago, ours made them understand that when Russia disconnected from Swift, Swift itself would cease to work physically. And the theme has moved out
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 22 December 2018 15: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: LSA57
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    "I'll stand behind your back!"
                    will fight with us "Until the last urkaints"

                    This was the intention of the "Washington Regional Committee" from the very beginning! And conceived by Washington together with corrupt London behind you, first of all, Paris and Germany!

                    And no matter what they say about London Brexit - about Britain's withdrawal from the EU - The main goal of Brexit is to prepare Britain for the next scam of its NATO allies in TMV. Those. this is an attempt by Britain to stay away from retaliation and profit from the destruction of other countries before, during and after TMV.

                    In other words. The leadership of NATO countries, preparing for TMV, are already making their major political and economic bets in the future redivision of the world in their favor.
                    1. Ivan Vasilievich
                      Ivan Vasilievich 22 December 2018 17: 08
                      0
                      You have fantasies, however.
                  2. Nikolay Fedorov
                    Nikolay Fedorov 24 December 2018 11: 53
                    0
                    Quote: jjj
                    A couple of years ago, ours made them understand that when Russia disconnected from Swift, Swift itself would cease to work physically. And the theme has moved out

                    Russia has no such leverage. Unfortunately.
                2. Nortonman
                  Nortonman 22 December 2018 15: 11
                  +10
                  Nobody took Rusal anywhere.
                  Who is Deripaska? This is a guy married to Yeltsin’s granddaughter Polina Valentinovna Deripaska (Yumasheva). And who was the owner of En +, which in turn owned Rusal and Norilsk Nickel. Mostly Deripaska, his wife and wife's father. Together they owned 76% of all En + shares.

                  After the transaction, they will have 55% of the shares and 45% of the voting shares. Deripaska and the other Yeltsin family will cease to control En +.

                  State VTB will increase its share of 9,6% to 24%, and increase Glencourt's share by another 3%. They say this is an office organized by the KGB for purchases in the west, bypassing sanctions.

                  ... part of the shares of a Russian businessman will fall under the control of the Swiss company Glencore, which cannot but provoke another fit of anger among American supporters of tough sanctions against Russia ... In a sense, “circumventing American sanctions” or “working on the verge of sanctions” is the corporate identity of this Swiss structure, the founder of which Mark Rich was convicted in the United States precisely for violating American sanctions restrictions and hiding in Switzerland until the end of his days ... Lead to En +. will become independent directors of VTB and Glencourt. The number of directors of Deripaska will be reduced to 4 out of 12.

                  Congressman and Democrat Lloyd Dogget said the Treasury’s decision is another Christmas present from US President Donald Trump to his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin. He called the plan to lift sanctions on Deripaska companies “a scam involving the Russian bank VTB, which itself is under US sanctions,” NYT quoted him as saying.

                  “VTB is 100% controlled by the Russian government. This means that a change in ownership of Rusal will have zero negative impact on Putin. Zero In fact, everything will be the other way around. The company's value goes up, and the Kremlin gains more control. This Trump decision requires MUCH more careful consideration. "
                  Michael McFaul

                  Shares En +. on this news rose by $ 100. And the company's capitalization is $ 2 billion.
              2. your1970
                your1970 22 December 2018 11: 05
                +11
                Quote: atos_kin
                They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.
                - business is not in the share. Having turned off SWIFT, they can force us to switch to settlements exclusively in euros or in rubles. The euro will jump up immediately, and the dollar from such a "gift" can fall very much.
                And here the EU can feel the main thing in the WORLD.....
                And oh, it’s not a fact - that it will benefit the States, oh not a fact.
                Plus, all over the world, the "offal" will really boil for those who trade with the Russian Federation - they will have to look for either rubles or euros (and both will have to be looked for BREAK!!! few banks will be able to give such great guarantees) .... or gold belay (And what? What if? Suddenly we will demand payment for gas by ginger?)
                And it would be a WONDERFUL gift of our industry
                1. major147
                  major147 22 December 2018 15: 25
                  +4
                  Quote: your1970
                  Quote: atos_kin
                  They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.
                  - business is not in the share. Having turned off SWIFT, they can force us to switch to settlements exclusively in euros or in rubles. The euro will jump up immediately, and the dollar from such a "gift" can fall very much.
                  And here the EU can feel the main thing in the WORLD.....
                  And oh, it’s not a fact - that it will benefit the States, oh not a fact.
                  Plus, all over the world, the "offal" will really boil for those who trade with the Russian Federation - they will have to look for either rubles or euros (and both will have to be looked for BREAK!!! few banks will be able to give such great guarantees) .... or gold belay (And what? What if? Suddenly we will demand payment for gas by ginger?)
                  And it would be a WONDERFUL gift of our industry

                  Service for the transfer of financial statements (SPFS) - the Russian analogue of SWIFT is already working!
              3. Cheslav Tsursky
                Cheslav Tsursky 22 December 2018 12: 25
                +2
                Quote: atos_kin
                They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.

                And again, Vissarionich, he lies in an impudent way! So they were not afraid to introduce sanctions, including economic ones, and SWIFT consider it unprofitable for their own to turn them off? It has been explained to Western partners more than once and very popularly, including to Brussels, that Russia's disconnection from this system can be regarded as a declaration of war. Everyone understands perfectly well that this is blackmail. Moreover, all this time Russia did not just sit idly by. A new Russian payment system SPFS has been created to which more than 300 of our banks have already switched. What does it mean? And the fact that in the format of the country the alternative has already been created. You were late Vissarionych with your western partners ... Well, what about your lies about the "pumping of juices" from Russia by foreigners. Back in 2014, when the sanctions were just beginning, foreign countries occupied 5.4% of the Russian market. Investors are distributed as follows US $ 8,6 billion, England 3,6, Norway 2,4, Sweden 2.3, Netherlands 2.0, EU countries total 5.3. Tears ... Compare with the PRC and weep. Moreover, this year, China has offered foreign capital to take part in the reform of the BASIC STATE ENTERPRISES! Read the statement at the forum in Shanghai by the head of the Committee for Control and Management of State Property under the State Council of the People's Republic of China Xiao Yaqing ...
                1. atos_kin
                  atos_kin 22 December 2018 13: 15
                  +3
                  Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                  again, Vissarionych, lying insolently

                  You can shove your "again" yourself you know where. For some reason, your manuals do not take into account Rosstat data, which does not hide the share of foreign owners by industry.
                  1. Cheslav Tsursky
                    Cheslav Tsursky 22 December 2018 14: 08
                    +2
                    I gave you a completely official data of 5.4% in the question you are interested in. Naturally, I would like the share of investments to be greater. China and goes this way. Investing is good! I know? The sanctions policy of the West is aimed at reducing the flow of capital into the country. I regret to have to admit that you are reasoning rather weakly on this issue! Active import substitution is also good! In a few years we have become world leaders in the export of agricultural products. The fact that you are rude on a regular basis only proves your helplessness as an opponent in a dispute.
                2. dauria
                  dauria 22 December 2018 16: 22
                  +1
                  It has been repeatedly explained to Western partners, including Brussels, that disconnecting Russia from this system can be regarded as declaring war


                  Yes, that's right. Especially when you consider that the goal of the United States is to make Russia not an enemy, but an ally vassal in a future battle with China. Now Russia has a position of neutrality at the expense of a strong army. And an attack on Russia, either by the United States or China, will turn out to be a "Pyrrhic" victory for them - the enemy will jump ahead. To be able to at least this time stay on the sidelines (or at least at the end to a minimum).
                  Remember, the United States is at war with China and wants to do it with the hands of Russia. We with our economy are already too small for their enemies.
              4. Galleon
                Galleon 22 December 2018 13: 05
                -2
                They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.


                Exactly! And in Iran there is no legalized thief who would export money and his relatives abroad - Iran can be disconnected from the system of international interbank transfers.
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 22 December 2018 13: 13
                  +2
                  Quote: Galleon
                  To the point

                  Past

                  I’ve been trying to make you think for a long time, and not just write slogans. Let's try again, an example from life:

                  The company, a native of the United States (or even from Mongolia, no difference), works in the Russian Federation, complies with the laws of the Russian Federation, pays taxes. Received profit (attention! Taxes are taxed, everything is clean) - it sends to its head office. IN USA. Or even to Mongolia.

                  They, in your opinion, are also enemies and "legalized thieves", or what? wink
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 22 December 2018 13: 43
                    +5
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Quote: Galleon
                    To the point

                    Past

                    I’ve been trying to make you think for a long time, and not just write slogans. Let's try again, an example from life:

                    The company, a native of the United States (or even from Mongolia, no difference), works in the Russian Federation, complies with the laws of the Russian Federation, pays taxes. Received profit (attention! Taxes are taxed, everything is clean) - it sends to its head office. IN USA. Or even to Mongolia.

                    They, in your opinion, are also enemies and "legalized thieves", or what? wink
                    Yes, even the reverse situation will not convince them ...
                    If for example Lukoil works in the USA, earns there, pays taxes and TAKES OUT PROFIT IN RUSSIA - according to their logic, "this does not happen, one thief, enemies and so on"
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 22 December 2018 13: 45
                      +3
                      Quote: your1970
                      Lukoil works in the USA, makes money there, pays taxes and EXPANSES profits to the Russian Federation - according to their logic, "this does not happen, one thief, enemies and so on."

                      This is too complicated for the brains of people calling themselves boats.

                      I tried to start with a simple one, got a minus from a boat ... request
                      Less more, less less laughing
                    2. atos_kin
                      atos_kin 22 December 2018 17: 12
                      +1
                      “There is not a single large company of ours where there would be no foreign participation. I don’t know any of our company at all. Even the state-owned company Rosneft - and that is a joint-stock company, ”quoted Interfax as the president.

                      After that, Putin turned to Alekperov. “In our other largest company - LUKOIL, Vagit, how many foreigners do you have?” The president asked.

                      “50% is from foreign investors,” Alekperov specified. He directly and indirectly holds about 20% of LUKOIL’s shares, while Leonid Fedun, vice president of the company, holds another 10%.
                      http://www.forbes.ru/news/83361-alekperov-lukoil-na-50-prinadlezhit-inostrantsam
                      Where can we understand by our logic. We just don’t know where to put the imported profit.
                  2. atos_kin
                    atos_kin 22 December 2018 13: 50
                    -2
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Received profit (attention! Taxes are taxed, everything is clean) - it sends to its head office. IN USA. Or even to Mongolia.

                    And you can give an example when profits are sent to the Russian Federation.
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 22 December 2018 13: 59
                      -2
                      Quote: atos_kin
                      Quote: Consultant
                      Received profit (attention! Taxes are taxed, everything is clean) - it sends to its head office. IN USA. Or even to Mongolia.

                      And you can give an example when profits are sent to the Russian Federation.

                      What is the weather like in Haiti today?

                      What is the question - is the answer laughing
                  3. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 22 December 2018 16: 30
                    -2
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Quote: Galleon
                    To the point

                    Past

                    I’ve been trying to make you think for a long time, and not just write slogans. Let's try again, an example from life:

                    The company, a native of the United States (or even from Mongolia, no difference), works in the Russian Federation, complies with the laws of the Russian Federation, pays taxes. Received profit (attention! Taxes are taxed, everything is clean) - it sends to its head office. IN USA. Or even to Mongolia.

                    They, in your opinion, are also enemies and "legalized thieves", or what? wink

                    All capitalists from the USA or Mongolia (it doesn’t matter) are enemies. And the local legalized thieves, too.
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 22 December 2018 16: 42
                      -2
                      Quote: Doliva63
                      All capitalists from the USA or Mongolia (it doesn’t matter) are enemies

                      Ek pins you nepodetski ... the computer on which you write - throw out the window, his enemies did.

                      And in general, live a subsistence economy - even what is produced in the Russian Federation is produced by the very "legalized thief" that you hate so passionately.
              5. lis-ik
                lis-ik 22 December 2018 17: 26
                -1
                Quote: atos_kin
                They do not "sykuyut", they simply cannot turn off their own, which, being the owners of Russian companies, "pump juices" from the Russian Federation. If the share of foreign owners was low, they would immediately be turned off.

                It’s not necessary to disconnect Russia from SWIFT, but from the pipe, maybe then the brains turn on and there are options and people (and most importantly desire) who can earn money from real production, rather than pumping raw materials, because the flagships of production were built when there was no dependence on the oil industry .
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 22 December 2018 17: 32
                  -3
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  maybe then the brains turn on and there are options and people (and most importantly desire) who can make money from real production

                  In the meantime, they will be "looking for" - what will you feed the army, state employees and other civil servants? Do not offer breast laughing

                  Quote: lis-ik
                  in real production, not pumping raw materials

                  What do you propose to produce? Such that with a guarantee they bought, like that oil?

                  Quote: lis-ik
                  production flagships were built when there was no dependence on the oil industry

                  More details, if possible, from that moment. A couple of "flagships", preferably - alive to this day, sound, otherwise somehow it turns out pointlessly ... about nothing.
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 22 December 2018 11: 01
              +4
              Quote: krot
              Sykov disconnect us from SWIFT! Because, as they know, we have already stocked up the option of alternative payments. And if it works, it will be another nail in the US coffin!

              One of the reasons is that Russia has a similar system and has already tested it, and the second reason is that SWIFT allows them to look into the economic affairs of any state using this system and the USA will not be able to control the transactions and financial expenses of Russia.
            3. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 December 2018 13: 07
              -2
              Please tell me about this option, name, way of working.
              Quote: krot
              Sykov disconnect us from SWIFT! Because, as they know, we have already stocked up the option of alternative payments. And if it works, it will be another nail in the US coffin!
        2. dorz
          dorz 22 December 2018 10: 51
          +4
          why the US will not disconnect Russia from SWIFT

          Russia already has its own financial messaging system (SPFS), so disconnecting from SWIFT will not be critical for it.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 December 2018 13: 09
            0
            Quote: dorz
            why the US will not disconnect Russia from SWIFT

            Russia already has its own financial messaging system (SPFS), so disconnecting from SWIFT will not be critical for it.

            According to this system, can companies from the West transfer money to the account of my Russian legal entity?
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 22 December 2018 13: 24
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Can companies transfer money from the West?

              This is a "company from the West" problem. Let them carry cash, no one forbids)))
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 22 December 2018 13: 27
                0
                Yes, it makes me a convenient, profitable supplier. laughing
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 22 December 2018 13: 29
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  it makes me a convenient, profitable supplier

                  No.

                  It makes an i-diot (more precisely, does not. You can’t do twice what has already been done) of the one who chopped off the SWIFT.

                  Here's an ambush belay
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 December 2018 13: 38
                    0
                    What do they have to do with it? We need to think about our own system of international payments. Nobody will send here the same containers with cash request
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 22 December 2018 13: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      What do they have to do with it?

                      Volker told Ukraine why the United States will not disconnect Russia from SWIFT

                      Exactly with this.

                      The stick has two ends, as usual. And the one that hits the disconnecting - in this case, thicker and longer laughing
            2. dorz
              dorz 22 December 2018 13: 28
              +2
              This system was created in case of disconnection from SWIFT, in my opinion, Western banks do not need to connect to the Russian system now. A small article in Izvestia:
              https://iz.ru/743886/anastasiia-alekseevskikh/briks-bez-swift
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 22 December 2018 13: 40
                +1
                If Western banks can easily connect to this system, then this is good.
                1. Captain Pushkin
                  Captain Pushkin 23 December 2018 13: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  If Western banks can easily connect to this system, then this is good.

                  If the United States suddenly turns off SWIFT, then our payment system will fail under sanctions and no one in the West will use it. For interstate settlements, Chinese will remain, but there are still opportunities to block it for Russia. Although this will be a virtual declaration of war with unpredictable fatal consequences. For all.
        3. Lelek
          Lelek 22 December 2018 11: 05
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Yeah, it turns out: "I'll stand behind your back"!

          hi , Alexander.
          They are already getting up and instructing the "non-brothers" how to kill Russians more clearly and effectively. And the West also dares to scream about the presence of Russian troops in the Ruin. fool
        4. hydrox
          hydrox 22 December 2018 13: 50
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Yeah, it turns out: "I'll stand behind your back"!

          The most amazing thing is that Walker told the skakuas the true truth :: SWIFT is the most powerful, reliable, truthful, XNUMX-hour and free online tool for ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL intelligence.
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    2. Legend
      Legend 22 December 2018 08: 20
      +13
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Underdevelopment, this is so inherent in dill

      Most likely, historical envy, like the Poles, mainly among Western Ukrainians (who are just in power in Kiev now)
      And at the expense of isolating Russia, this is ridiculous .. Putin recently very accurately defined our place in the world ..
      "I can't imagine the world without Russia ..!" Everything is true, after all, where are they without us .. God save Russia and give us patience and courage to endure all this on our way. soldier
    3. Halado Romane
      Halado Romane 22 December 2018 08: 28
      +12
      Ukrainians will never understand that they are cooler than Swift! They are ready to introduce them against Russia until the last Ukrainian!
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 22 December 2018 10: 00
      +6
      Quote: Spartanez300
      These naive fools still don’t even realize that they are simply being used.

      it was just that they initially had an inflated self-esteem - "Jesus is a Ukrainian", "America is with us." The higher the expectations, the more bitter the disappointment.
    5. dinis
      dinis 22 December 2018 14: 31
      0
      For me, most of the inhabitants of Ukraine have long been a herd of sheep, many of whom don’t even understand that they are used as cannon fodder.
    6. Strategia
      Strategia 22 December 2018 15: 51
      -1
      By spraying poisonous saliva on the "dill", you become like them. In the same way, in the information field, Russia and Ukraine are mirror images of each other in terms of the nature of their rhetoric.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 December 2018 08: 13
    +6
    Volker simply could not openly say that Washington is much more interested in acting with Ukrainian hands, and not get involved in a real confrontation with Russia using its own forces and means.

    ... who would doubt that until the last Ukronazist, the mericatos would fight with Russia .... angry
  3. 210ox
    210ox 22 December 2018 08: 15
    +17
    Fight yourself, ukromyaso. The Lord is not supposed to get his hands dirty
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    2. Russia
      Russia 22 December 2018 08: 21
      +10
      Well, yes, he still needs to talk about anything with Surkov.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 22 December 2018 08: 33
        +4
        Quote: Rusland
        Well, yes, he still needs to talk with Surkov about anything

        Well, maybe she can laugh at a glass of tea over naive Sumerians laughing
    3. depressant
      depressant 22 December 2018 08: 25
      +3
      I guess you should not relax. Today, Walker, tomorrow someone else - they are all there not that with the world - they are not particularly friendly with their heads. An alternative to SWIFT is to do it urgently!
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 22 December 2018 08: 52
        +7
        Quote: depressant
        An alternative to SWIFT is to do it urgently!

        But we did, called SPFS! Therefore, the Americans will not turn it off, not when! It's a lot of money, information, influence.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 22 December 2018 11: 09
          +3
          Quote: You Vlad
          Therefore, the Americans will not turn it off, not when! It's a lot of money, information, influence.

          You're right! After the events of September 11, 2001, the CIA, FBI and US Treasury have access to SWIFT financial information in order to track possible financial transactions of terrorists. In this case, the Americans have full information about all transactions of our companies and individuals.
          SWIFT is based in Belgium and is not directly subordinate to US sanctions legislation.
          So far, there have been only two cases of disconnecting states from the SWIFT system. In 2012, this measure was applied to Iranian banks, in 2017 - against banks in North Korea. However, in both cases, UN sanctions were applied against countries, and in the case of Iran, SWIFT implemented the EU decision. hi
          1. helmi8
            helmi8 22 December 2018 12: 51
            0
            Quote: kapitan92
            SWIFT is based in Belgium and not directly subordinate to US sanctions law

            When did the Americans get confused? If something affects their "national interests", then they are on tulumbas all the laws, except for the American ones. They spread their laws to the whole world, even Russia is accused of violating American laws ... wassat
      2. Senior manager
        Senior manager 22 December 2018 09: 03
        +3
        Quote: depressant
        SWIFT - do it urgently!

        No less urgent need to make an independent Internet, well, or at least a disconnection system from the Western system.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 December 2018 09: 10
          +4
          Quote: St. Propulsion
          No less urgent need to make an independent Internet,

          and boil in your own juice?
          so they achieve this in all ways (politics, culture, sports) to isolate us from the whole world. and from the Internet, by the way, too. Do you think in vain they invented a tale about interference in elections almost all over the world via the Internet?
          1. Senior manager
            Senior manager 22 December 2018 09: 22
            +4
            Colleague, we must think ahead, the war is on the sly, while it is, and in order to preserve YOUR system of economic management, you need to provide for such a possibility. Take a closer look - the vast majority of Russian strategic organizations interact via the Internet. You consider the problem very narrowly, I would even say - from a liberal position. Like "Freedom for Luis Carvalan!"
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 22 December 2018 09: 34
              +3
              Quote: St. Propulsion
              Take a look - the vast majority of Russian system-forming organizations interact via the Internet

              and not only them. the overwhelming majority of citizens of the Russian Federation are connected among themselves and their relatives abroad via the Internet. chopped off all the connections? I’m here, for example, making an appointment with a doctor via the Internet and not standing in line. I make some purchases over the Internet and do not overpay. and much more I do online
              You look at the problem very narrowly, I would even say - from a liberal position. Like "Freedom for Luis Carvalan!"

              yes where can I get to your latitude, even Karvalan was pulled out of mothballs laughing
              your latitude has spread as far and wide as no one else in the world. everywhere the Internet is expanding, and you propose to ban and equate us without the Internet to "banana republics". laughing
              But can it still be much more efficient to block access to malicious sites? what is being done by the way.
              and you on the principle of why to treat, it’s easier to kill
            2. fif21
              fif21 22 December 2018 11: 21
              +1
              Quote: St. Propulsion
              You look at the problem very narrowly, I would even say - from a liberal position. Like "Freedom for Luis Carvalan!"

              wassat Smarter than a warrant officer, only a senior warrant officer can be! hi
        2. Puzoter
          Puzoter 22 December 2018 09: 48
          +2
          They do it .. Recently they tested it on a telegram)
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 22 December 2018 11: 13
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      Fight yourself, ukromyaso. The Lord is not supposed to get his hands dirty

      Hi Dmitry.
      In this regard, Beni Kalomoisky's "trolling" by Waltzman is noteworthy (cry. Klikuha - Gunpowder):
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 December 2018 08: 25
    +7
    At the time of yelling about zrada again - they don’t take NATO (and have already washed their feet and hemmed their collars), they don’t want to accept the “crippling” sanctions against Russia, Europe is blackmailing with a cover of visa-free travel ... ... We got it like a boil in an inconvenient place.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 December 2018 08: 35
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      they don’t take them to NATO (they have already washed their feet and hemmed their collars), they don’t want to accept sanctions that cripple Russia, Europe is blackmailing them with a cover for visa-free travel ...

      and not going to write off debts
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 22 December 2018 08: 43
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      At the time, again yelling about the bomb - they don’t take to NATO (and already washed their feet ........
      It still stinks ..... Do not join either NATO or the EU !!!!!!! 5 years already.
      1. novel66
        novel66 22 December 2018 10: 21
        +2
        if you always enter where not getting - mine is not mine, one horseradish will stink
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 22 December 2018 10: 32
          0
          Quote: novel xnumx
          if you always enter where not getting - mine is not mine, one horseradish will stink

          In a cow cake.
          1. novel66
            novel66 22 December 2018 10: 33
            +1
            sagging! but is there a cake in which they did not enter?
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 22 December 2018 15: 13
              0
              Quote: novel xnumx
              but is there a cake in which they did not enter?

              So, above the colleague Reptiloid designated these points:
              Quote: Reptiloid
              neither in NATO nor in the EU !!!!!!!

              laughing Two big fatty cakes. yes
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 22 December 2018 08: 30
    +4
    SWIFT, an open source intelligence on the Russian economy, who, when and how much.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 22 December 2018 09: 12
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      SWIFT, an open source intelligence on the Russian economy,

      only Russia is connected to it? belay
      and nobody else? and the "exceptional" have a different system? laughing
  6. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 22 December 2018 08: 34
    +3
    The journalist asked Walker if the United States is ready to use truly “crippling sanctions” against Russia

    The US will confine itself to "crippling" aid to Ukraine.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 December 2018 08: 37
    +4
    VNA heroes have cognitive dissonance. They were told in plain text that they were just a stick in the wheel of a rising Russia, and the fate of the stick doesn’t concern anyone who puts it in the wheel.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 22 December 2018 08: 37
    +4
    Volker simply could not openly say that Washington is much more interested in acting with Ukrainian hands, and not get involved in a real confrontation with Russia using its own forces and means.
    .... Here ... here ... And these think that the Americans will be cannon fodder ... Yeah ... now .. Ruin continues ... More than 300 years ago, the Poles used in their interests, now the Americans ... .And it doesn’t reach ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 22 December 2018 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      ...... And everything does not reach ...
      Doesn’t it all get there? How many years the USSR taught, brought up, the territory of the Russian annexed ..... And it never came.
  9. Conductor
    Conductor 22 December 2018 08: 55
    0
    A penny everyone knows how to count !!!
  10. Bi-mac
    Bi-mac 22 December 2018 09: 17
    +2
    Last night I decided to poke the remote control at last and on the Kultura channel unexpectedly came across the movie "Head with two ears". I sat in one breath for up to 2 hours. Awesome! Another confirmation that the budget is not a hindrance to talent.
    I will not retell the contents, suddenly someone wants to check out himself. But the analogy with the way Iya dances Ukraine is one hundred percent ((((
    1. Bi-mac
      Bi-mac 22 December 2018 09: 18
      +1
      ... But the analogy with the way the United States dance Ukraine ...
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 22 December 2018 13: 06
      0
      Quote: Bi-Mac
      unexpectedly came across the movie "Two Ears Head". I sat in one breath for up to 2 hours.

      Have not found sad like looking everywhere
      1. Bi-mac
        Bi-mac 23 December 2018 06: 38
        0
        Alas, I also wanted to see the missed start. The search engine produces different sites - but everywhere only a trailer (. Maybe somewhere you need to register for a specialist to view ... I don’t know.
  11. Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 22 December 2018 09: 25
    +1
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: St. Propulsion
    No less urgent need to make an independent Internet,

    and boil in your own juice?
    so they achieve this in all ways (politics, culture, sports) to isolate us from the whole world. and from the Internet, by the way, too. Do you think in vain they invented a tale about interference in elections almost all over the world via the Internet?

    And what if disconnected? Die without adidas.com or bmw.com? Well, they will make mirrors in the Russian segment of the new network. Anyway, there will be some sort of Russia / Internet gateways. Take an interest in how the Russian Railways network works. In fact, a large local area network throughout the country with some nodes with Internet access.
    A business without a payment slip works only in the movies.
    1. your1970
      your1970 22 December 2018 11: 09
      +1
      Quote: Ural-4320
      A business without a payment slip works only in the movies.
      -so I see how trains travel across the mountain range of payment orders from bank to bank ...... well ...
  12. taiga2018
    taiga2018 22 December 2018 09: 26
    +2
    the national idea of ​​Ukraine is to harm Russia as much as possible, and the fact that this will make themselves worse is not important for them at all, the "intimidated" are ready to endure all the bullying further ...
    1. Vik ganz
      Vik ganz 22 December 2018 14: 05
      0
      There is no need to write: "the national idea of ​​Ukraine is to harm Russia as much as possible." Several thousand people all over Ukraine act to harm Russia, no more. And there are more than forty million people in Ukraine!
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 22 December 2018 14: 39
        +2
        Quote: Vik Ganz
        more than forty million people!

        but what kind of people are they, if several thousand nightmares them as they want ... in my opinion we need to get rid of the illusion that there are several thousand bad, and the rest are good ... history is repeating itself, I remember that the Bolsheviks were waiting for that now the European proletariat would rise and sweep away its exploiters, and time passed, but the European proletariat did not rise ... then when the Second World War began, in its first months, when German officers, immigrants from the workers, were captured, ours tried to shame them, they say, why did you go to war against the same workers, and they simply did not understand what they wanted from them, because they went to war not against the same people, but against "subhumans ..." and all because those Germans who was against the Nazis either were destroyed (burned in Ukraine), or were in concentration camps (in Ukraine in prisons) ... so 40 million of Ukraine-anti-Russia generally like it, so it's time to stop believing in the fairy tale about the "intimidated" Ukrainians and recognize that, except in the Donbass republics,we have no allies ...
  13. engineering
    engineering 22 December 2018 09: 28
    0
    Nothing personal, just business ....
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 22 December 2018 09: 35
    +1
    This will bring Russia out of control of the US financial system. But Americans think up how to justify it, it’s not the first to tell them tales
  15. wooja
    wooja 22 December 2018 09: 37
    0
    cannot be turned off ..., control over cash flows is lost ..., alternatives are undesirable
  16. little way
    little way 22 December 2018 09: 38
    +1
    We are full of weapons that have not been tested in Syria. At Khokhlomaraz why not try it.
  17. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 22 December 2018 10: 01
    +1
    Quote: Spartanez300
    Underdevelopment, this is so inherent in dill. These naive fools still don’t even realize that they are simply being used. Americans will never do anything that could harm their pockets, there are more because of some kind of Ukraine.

    All of them, bastards, understand perfectly well that they throw them around and use them in their interests, so they are furious! tongue
  18. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 22 December 2018 10: 23
    0
    Well, thanks, benefactors, now our darling is calm!
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 December 2018 10: 24
    0
    The supreme power in banderlogy understands everything perfectly, but everyone who is now "earning" good money there understands perfectly well that this is their swan song. As soon as it comes to a collision and it doesn't even matter who is with whom, they will dump everything over the hill, using visa-free travel, to live the stolen goods. The question to those who will be left with a bare bottom and in cauldrons: what will you sing? Again whining: and we ..., and us ..., but we did not know, and so on. So the thought involuntarily comes to deprive them of their citizenship, but they deprived themselves of it, because there will be no more Ukraine, and let earn the right to live in the new state by hard work for a fraction of a small.
  20. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 22 December 2018 10: 42
    0
    Volcker subtly hinted to the Ukrainian leadership: "disconnect from SWIFT yourself, so as not to interact with Russia."
  21. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 22 December 2018 10: 45
    0
    The skakuas were depressed. It's time for someone from the Kiev junta to hang themselves, better Turchinov and Porubiy in an embrace. They have definitely worked out the ropes. They will not understand that Volcker is an agent of the Kremlin for setting up the USA and NATO as behind-the-scenes, but already highlighted warmongers. Those who know in advance that the war he is kindling in the territories of the Ukronatsiks will end in their complete defeat and active POST-WAR separatism in all RUINED regions of the parashkoidal "martial law".
  22. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 22 December 2018 11: 01
    +1
    Shibko looks like Kudrin, al Kudrin looks like him ...
    Like identical ...
  23. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 22 December 2018 11: 06
    0
    Ukrainians did not understand that for the US and the EU, they are doing dirty work.
  24. rocket757
    rocket757 22 December 2018 11: 10
    0
    An ordinary idiot found a suitable audience.
  25. BOB044
    BOB044 22 December 2018 11: 15
    0
    Walker did not tell them the truth that the United States will use Ukrainians against Russia as firewood. Only those Ukrainians who survive on earnings outside the non-fallow ones will survive.
  26. shinobi
    shinobi 22 December 2018 11: 33
    0
    Disconnecting Russia from SWIFT now will be suicide for SWIFT itself, because as an alternative to it inside the country it is already operating and domestic banks of the Russian Federation are being driven in without haste and haste, a couple of global alternative networks are approaching. They now have a problem, don’t disconnect someone from SWIFT, but as if from themselves they did not start to scatter.
  27. Hypersound
    Hypersound 22 December 2018 12: 25
    -1
    In an interview, Volker added that he intends to meet with Vladislav Surkov and discuss "all the latest events," including the incident in the Black Sea.


    Surkov must act in accordance with the statements of the cross-eyed schizophrenic Omelchenko (or whatever the name of that crazy old man is called)
  28. Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 22 December 2018 12: 31
    0
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: Ural-4320
    A business without a payment slip works only in the movies.
    -so I see how trains travel across the mountain range of payment orders from bank to bank ...... well ...

    Did you cancel the fax? And how did humanity survive with cardboard tickets for trains and without passports when boarding an airplane? And there was telex, and there is most likely. And all without the Internet, only telephone. And satellite communications are not the Internet, but they transmit data.
    Check out Arthur Haley's Wheels, Airport, Final Diagnosis, and more. Just the times when there was no Internet, but business was done and payments were made.
  29. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 22 December 2018 12: 37
    0
    How can one not be disappointed if you realize that you are not a queen, but a pawn and your master will never make you a queen and do not even plan to. It's a shame to realize that you are not the center of the universe, but a cheap puppet, which, at any moment, can be thrown out as unnecessary, as is done with the Kurds at present. This time will come for winter.
  30. srha
    srha 22 December 2018 12: 44
    0
    Regarding security, and its particulars as applied to SWIFT.

    Without a certain initial level of security, systems are generally worthless (well, why do you need a chair that you can fall off at any time?). But all sorts of systems, to improve security, require redundancy / duplication. Of course, reservation increases the cost a little, but security is always worth it, we just do not always know the value and the share of security in the cost of a service / product. Therefore, the choice of a way to improve security is a delicate moment.

    SWIFT operates in dollars and this makes it reliable on the one hand (it uses one of the reliable currencies), and on the other hand, it is flawed in terms of security, in particular for countries that are in confrontation with the United States - very clearly. But if you create a SWIFT understudy based on a different currency or product (for example, petrodollar), this will greatly increase security and reduce the influence of the dollar and the United States. True, with all such attempts (exceptions: France in Africa and, it was, but almost passed, the pound in offshore, and several more currencies in several areas, but still controlled by the owners of the dollar through a series of agreements), the States conduct interventions. Even with the creation of the BRICS Development Bank (an attempt to replace the IMF in the BRICS countries), the dollar was accepted in currency (although where are the States in the BRICS?) - China did not dare to throw the glove to the States. And in vain, at least they lost their strategic maneuver (controlled by the states) in pursuit of tactical success (the bank’s operational efficiency).
    The deprivation of Russia's SWIFT is pushing Russia toward a strategic confrontation already in the economy, in which Russia is so far under the States by the efforts of the country's leadership. Do the states need it? Not yet.
  31. Vik ganz
    Vik ganz 22 December 2018 13: 48
    0
    Who needs this walker? No meetings with this villain.
  32. Fseev
    Fseev 22 December 2018 14: 49
    0
    This d @ forebo @ bam as an educational process, it is necessary to arrange a demonstrative execution. Line up Natsik in a column of 10 and turn on pieces of 5 GSh6-23M with full ammunition. 10 minutes and their guts will fly in the air.
  33. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 22 December 2018 15: 16
    0
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    "I'll stand behind your back!"

    will fight with us "Until the last urkaints"

    Yes, and they will also ask us for money, so that "we_at our door."
  34. Wolf
    Wolf 22 December 2018 15: 17
    +1
    SWIFT is a system for the global circulation of world capital. Biological organisms do not have duplication systems, artificial human beings do not have a workpiece, they are duplicates or even triplings. An example of a lot of samoloty, etc. The question is, why didn't the person make duplication or triplication of the most important capital flow system? For the simple reason that then the central control is lost and the weight of the valutny (paper) systems can collapse those. $ 1, not for example, will not be more than £ 0,8, or € 1, but will be generated naturally by the market, the value of $ will not be controlled. The entire global financial system is created so that it is artificially controlled by the dependence of the "hazaevim" of the world. The theory of pricing only affects the market for agricultural products. In the global financial system, the monetary value of the currency and etim and the position of national economies in the world is artificially controlled from one center. This system is subordinated to the global power of the criminal oligarchy. They rob you and you don't even see it, the parasite is installed and the host does not see it, the host feels that he is bad but does not know the reason. If they had lost Rossiu od SWIFT, it could have happened (what a bad option for the Khazai of the world) that the bi-se was formed by a duplicated system of blood circulation of the world capital over which they would not have control, and the central would be an example in Moscow or Beijing. the topic and it is necessary to write a lot, ali the day is that if we want a multipolar world, DUPLICATION OR EVEN TRIPLING TO THE CAPITAL FLOW SYSTEM AND WHAT IS THE CENTRAL OF THESE SYSTEMS IS NOT UNDER THE CONTROL OF THESE CATALOGS IS NOW SWIFT UNDER CONTROL!
  35. olegruss
    olegruss 22 December 2018 16: 29
    0
    The funny thing is that disconnecting Russia from swift will primarily hit the Ukrainian economy, because it will halve its already stunted foreign trade. Does the West really not understand the danger of suicidal behavior in Ukraine? Ukrainian nationalists are ready to kill themselves to annoy Russia, and they are ready to pull the whole West with them. This is really a madhouse. People walk around the edge and do not understand this.
  36. 23424636
    23424636 22 December 2018 18: 39
    0
    the walker forgot to say that the asses are yelling, and the Moscow-Beijing train is on
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 22 December 2018 21: 26
      -1
      Moscow - Beijing is a very dangerous route. You should not count on China and its leadership, you should not be seduced by the fact that "comrade-communists" are in power there. China is not a friend of Russia and never was and never will be, just as the Chinese communists have never been and will never be full of Marsists. China has always remembered, remembers and will remember that in times overgrown with the past centuries, everything that is now Russian Siberia, the Far East, the Amur Region ... yes, everything to the Urals and even further, belonged to China, even in the person of Cengiz Khan (and he was the conqueror and therefore the ruler of China). China knows only its own interests and never lifts a finger for the sake of Russia's interests. If, as a result of trade wars or for any other reason, strong internal tension occurs in China, then the communist leadership of the PRC will face the dilemma of a victorious war in order to remove this tension and maintain power. In which direction will China's largest troops in the world move? The situation is similar to the Japanese WWII era, but the Chinese fleet is incomparable with the fleets of the West. Landing in Taiwan? But again, the whole point is in the fleet, which has never been the strong point of the Celestial Empire and in the high technological equipment of the Taiwan army, in the US umbrella. But lying in the North, the soft, poorly protected, rich in all overland underbelly of Russia, from ancient times always on the maps painted as part of China, the goal is quite achievable and appetizing. especially since there is already a full fifth column of settled Chinese. Therefore, you should not believe the smiles of the Chinese - they will be deceived.
  37. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 22 December 2018 19: 10
    0
    Nun, well, war is war, and lunch is on schedule. No matter how the Ukrainian authorities do not want to spoil Russia, the Yankees are not so stupid that their companies would suffer from sanctions.
  38. German Titov
    German Titov 22 December 2018 20: 22
    0
    I like the face of this "democratic guy". According to "putty like fraer, but not fraer, for sure." As for me, they themselves would have figured it out.
  39. LeonidL
    LeonidL 22 December 2018 21: 16
    0
    Everything is much deeper and more interesting. It began with the collapse of the USSR and there were no sanctions under drunken Borka and obedient Kozyrev. What is essential - the USSR consisted of Soviet republics, representing a structure, roughly speaking, reminiscent of a children's pyramid made of a pin (KPSS) on a stand (Russia) and put on a pin of the Union republics. They pulled out the pin - the structure and collapsed ... For the World Backstage, this is the best option, followed by the successive destruction of the rest of the support in the form of the Russian Federation ... Under Borka everything went to that, but there was a bummer under Putin. Now Russia has begun, albeit slowly and with blood, but to collect the fallen away "crown" lands and peoples, so far only those who themselves wished it. In addition, Russia began to actively revive as a world power with a strong army and a rebuilding economy. The pin of the CPSU is now gone and, apparently, will not be. There is no way to collect the fragments of the empire on the pin of ideology. But on a prosperous economy and "friendship of the strong" is quite possible. The strong and the rich are respected, they cling to him, his patronage, his money and protection are sought by the smaller ones. The World Behind the Scenes cannot allow this, and therefore spread rot on the Russian Federation in terms of economic growth and prosperity, even if acting to the detriment of its constituent parts - the economies of Europe. T e - sanctions will always be as long as Russia gets stronger, regardless of how Russia "behaves". There will always be reasons, but if they are not, they will be invented. Hoping for the lifting of the sanctions is like believing in good Santa Claus.
  40. wax
    wax 22 December 2018 21: 52
    0
    SWIFT is a mass of information: cutting off Russia from the global settlement system means depriving yourself of the ability to track the financial flows of the main adversary.
  41. T.Henks
    T.Henks 24 December 2018 02: 35
    0
    I am tormented by vague doubts, is this case a wolf not the twin brother of Kudrin?