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Hungary buys German Leopard 2A7 + to replace Soviet T-72М / М1

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The Hungarian army will be armed with German technology. The Ministry of Defense of Hungary has signed a contract with the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) for the acquisition of tanks and self-propelled guns, reports the bmpd blog.


Hungary buys German Leopard 2A7 + to replace Soviet T-72М / М1


According to the terms of the contract, the German company will supply the Hungarian 44 ministry with the main Leopard 2A7 + and 24 self-propelled howitzers PzH 2000 of the 155-mm / 52 caliber. It is emphasized that tanks and self-propelled guns should be new construction. In addition, the contract includes 12 tanks Leopard 2A4 from the presence of the Bundeswehr, which will be used as training.

At present, the Hungarian army has only one tank battalion, armed with only 15 active T-72М / М1 tanks, and the only deployed 101 artillery division in the Hungarian army, armed with the entire 12 towed howitzer D-20 of 152 caliber mm .

For the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, the "Hungarian" contract will allow to keep the production line for the production of Leopard 2 tanks, because after the implementation of the contract for the supply of Qatar 2017 tanks Leopard 62A2 + and 7 to SAU PzH 24 in 2000, the company did not have concluded contracts with the concluded contracts for the Leopard XNUMXAXNUMX + and XNUMX SAU PzH XNUMX tanks. .
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Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW)
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  1. Baloo
    Baloo 21 December 2018 13: 23 New
    -3
    Good target, big one. good And it burns beautifully, in the Middle East from which they just didn’t set it on fire. wassat
    1. vadson
      vadson 21 December 2018 13: 27 New
      18
      a serious car, you just need to learn how to drive it thoroughly. Turks were burned recently, I think it was a good lesson for them. and you can burn any tank, no impenetrable
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 21 December 2018 13: 35 New
        12
        A7 Turks did not use. Germans have a dozen of them. wildly expensive equipment and even new construction ... where the money will get curious.
        1. marshes
          marshes 21 December 2018 13: 37 New
          +6
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          A7 Turks did not use. Germans have a dozen of them. wildly expensive equipment and even new construction ... where the money will get curious.

          Turks generally Leo on public display for the operators of anti-tank systems exposed, negligence or snobbery.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 21 December 2018 13: 39 New
            +3
            lack of experience is most likely to use. after 60 m)
            1. marshes
              marshes 21 December 2018 13: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              lack of experience is most likely to use. after 60 m)

              Maybe, but I'm more inclined to excessive self-confidence.
              1. vadson
                vadson 21 December 2018 13: 50 New
                +1
                horseradish radish is not sweeter))) will be in the Turks in the north of Syria see new operations - learned a lesson or not
                1. marshes
                  marshes 21 December 2018 13: 56 New
                  +2
                  Quote: vadson
                  horseradish radish is not sweeter))) will be in the Turks in the north of Syria see new operations - learned a lesson or not

                  A lot depends on the senior command, the Turks are stubbornly flexible and do not think.
      2. ved_med12
        ved_med12 21 December 2018 13: 50 New
        0
        Moreover, without KAZ!
      3. svp67
        svp67 21 December 2018 14: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: vadson
        a serious car, you just need to learn how to drive it thoroughly.

        Yes, you need to learn any technique, but I agree Leo2A7 is a very serious opponent, and even in conjunction with Pz2000, though they are not enough.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 21 December 2018 15: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: svp67

          Yes, you need to learn any technique, but I agree Leo2A7 is a very serious opponent, and even in conjunction with Pz2000, though they are not enough.

          There are only two infantry brigades in the modern Hungarian army. Well, that means that each of them will receive one tank battalion and one artillery division.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 21 December 2018 21: 47 New
            0
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            There are only two infantry brigades in the modern Hungarian army. Well, that means that each of them will receive one tank battalion and one artillery division.

            Amount of supplied equipment corresponds to one TB and one adn or to the IDF, such weak tank battalions for 22 vehicles?
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 22 December 2018 18: 44 New
              0
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              There are only two infantry brigades in the modern Hungarian army. Well, that means that each of them will receive one tank battalion and one artillery division.

              Amount of supplied equipment corresponds to one TB and one adn or to the IDF, such weak tank battalions for 22 vehicles?

              Not. But in Hungarian they plan precisely such.
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 22 December 2018 19: 04 New
                0
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                Not. But in Hungarian they plan precisely such.

                Troll? In Israeli TB - 22 tanks, and in adn - 12 self-propelled guns?
                No. So why should it be in the Hungarian army?
      4. arhPavel
        arhPavel 21 December 2018 14: 27 New
        +3
        The Turks had A4, the A7 was a serious car, and very expensive. One can only rejoice for the Hungarians that they decided to take them.
    2. sak1969
      sak1969 21 December 2018 14: 02 New
      +4
      Quote: Balu
      Good target, big one. good And it burns beautifully, in the Middle East from which they just didn’t set it on fire. wassat

      The Turks had junk without reinforcements. AND Leopard 2A7 + this is another song.
    3. another RUSICH
      another RUSICH 21 December 2018 14: 15 New
      +4
      Aren't they the Leopards, the likes of which urgently needed warm covers in Poland, so that the electronics with optics would not freeze?)
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 23 December 2018 22: 47 New
        0
        Quote: another RUSICH
        Aren't they the Leopards, the likes of which urgently needed warm covers in Poland, so that the electronics with optics would not freeze?)

        German "Leopard-2A4" have weak armor and they can crack
  2. Moskovit
    Moskovit 21 December 2018 13: 27 New
    -11 qualifying.
    After the Syrian adventures of leopards, only stupid people and Hungarians will buy these turret throwers.
    1. UMA-UMA
      UMA-UMA 21 December 2018 13: 45 New
      16
      You know, we don’t know anything about the losses of our T90s in Syria, except for victorious broadcasts and an exposure clip in the forehead of a peter. At the same time, the T90 is a great car. But so many factors affect the destruction of a tank, starting from a distance, continuing partly (board, feed, etc.) and crew experience. Therefore, it is impossible to compare so unambiguously, all factors must be taken into account. And Leo 7 is the worst and most dangerous adversary.
      1. vadson
        vadson 21 December 2018 13: 53 New
        +1
        as far as I remember they wrote that 90mu in the ass a gift flew in but the fire extinguishing system managed as a result the tank is not lost
        1. UMA-UMA
          UMA-UMA 21 December 2018 14: 08 New
          +3
          May be I do not know. I only know about standing in the forehead. Feed is in a 95% sentence. But this does not mean that the tank is bad - the operator is good.
      2. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 21 December 2018 14: 11 New
        +3
        You may not know this, but we know.
        In addition, the T90 just as delivered the Syrian crews under attack, like the Leo Turks.
        Yes, and t90 there they also have not the first freshness ...
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 21 December 2018 14: 29 New
          0
          Good or bad tank, it doesn’t matter. The main thing is dear. Darling means good. Question - why are they Hungary? To be praised in Washington? Or are they going to fight with someone?
        2. UMA-UMA
          UMA-UMA 21 December 2018 15: 06 New
          0
          What do you want to say by this? That t90 is cool, and leo 7 is a bad tank? And what source of information do you have?
      3. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 21 December 2018 14: 40 New
        +1
        for the most part the crew affects this, and with this there is generally a disaster. how many videos I watch the destruction of cars as much as the teeth grit from the stupid things that they get up. I generally only saw lonely cars working on their own without cover or driving uphills and exploring the area in a few minutes. complete horror.
  3. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 21 December 2018 13: 29 New
    +2
    The latest trend in the EU is to get rid of everything Soviet-Russian, including weapons. In addition to the additional costs, in principle, nothing changes, only the weapons are being updated.
    1. marshes
      marshes 21 December 2018 13: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey-74
      The latest trend in the EU is to get rid of everything Soviet-Russian, including weapons.

      All the same, the European armed forces are building, although they are refuting. By 30-40, the US influence on Europe will noticeably fall.
  4. Hypersound
    Hypersound 21 December 2018 13: 31 New
    +2
    Good tanks, but expensive. Our top versions of the T-90 are no worse, but much cheaper. But we will not sell the Hungarians laughing

    At least until they leave NATO and lift the sanctions.
    1. asadov
      asadov 21 December 2018 13: 35 New
      0
      That's the answer why they take these tanks ..
    2. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 21 December 2018 13: 38 New
      +4
      Well, this is debatable of course) the last cm is very good, but I would not compare. A7 is crammed with everything that is possible on the very tomatoes.
      1. vadson
        vadson 21 December 2018 14: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        Well, this is debatable of course) the last cm is very good, but I would not compare. A7 is crammed with everything that is possible on the very tomatoes.

        2a6 costs 6800000 million forever dead presidents - for ours it’s under 500 lyam, and this is not 7 or 7+. our armata in single copies without mass production costs the same. in mass production, the price will drop significantly
  5. Machine Gunner 391
    Machine Gunner 391 21 December 2018 13: 32 New
    +1
    Well, to capture Transcarpathia should be enough. Moreover, Ukrainians will not strongly resist.
  6. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 21 December 2018 13: 43 New
    +2
    For the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, the "Hungarian" contract will allow to keep the production line for the production of Leopard 2 tanks, because after the implementation of the contract for the supply of Qatar 2017 tanks Leopard 62A2 + and 7 to SAU PzH 24 in 2000, the company did not have concluded contracts with the concluded contracts for the Leopard XNUMXAXNUMX + and XNUMX SAU PzH XNUMX tanks. .

    that's what war is needed for, so that later they buy new cars, otherwise they will be equipped, and the production line is standing, such an option of planned obsolescence, so to speak
  7. irazum
    irazum 21 December 2018 13: 48 New
    0
    Hungary is a member of NATO, nothing surprising. And T-72 will be exchanged for palm oil somewhere. There are enough people wishing to make such a barter in Southeast Asia.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 21 December 2018 13: 48 New
    +2
    The Germans are able to build military equipment, if they do not skimp on the money .... The question is financial, otherwise we can really collect something like the Geyropei army gradually. They can make their own equipment, it’s a little expensive, but nobody does cheaper like that, and here at least the local industry will be loaded with orders. In short, they are in the subject.
    And we, at the same time, still have to look, we are not going to disarm for any.
    1. marshes
      marshes 21 December 2018 14: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      The Germans are able to build military equipment, if the money is not stingy

      They will return in the form of taxes, and they will not lose. And the wolves are full and the sheep are intact.
      Quote: rocket757
      . The question is financial, and so can we really show something like a geyropeyskoy army will collect gradually

      You don’t have to go to the grandmother, they Germans will take users of their equipment for a salary. This is what aloizovich dreamed about in his memoirs. What kind of reich building is there? Only with Jews, Gypsies and Slavs.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 December 2018 14: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: marshes
        They will return in the form of taxes, and they will not lose. And the wolves are full and the sheep are intact.

        This is a good business, if you can talk about murder weapons there.
        For kachestvo and say no, at the level.
        That’s why some ruzhzh-ws manage to lose on such a technique, certainly not a question for the Boschs!
        1. marshes
          marshes 21 December 2018 14: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          That’s why some ruzhzh-ws manage to lose on such a technique, certainly not a question for the Boschs!

          Not everyone has a Teutonic mindset. Mentality is different, in some places "Russian flexibility" is multinational, decision-making is lacking. North American thinking is close. From there, and there are losses in all military conflicts.
  9. ved_med12
    ved_med12 21 December 2018 13: 48 New
    +1
    Are there negroes in Hungary? Or will they be discharged from America? someone needs to charge!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 21 December 2018 14: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: ved_med12
      Are there negroes in Hungary? Or will they be discharged from America? someone needs to charge!

      You are not hinting at Ukrainians, are you? belay
  10. Lieutenant Senior
    Lieutenant Senior 21 December 2018 14: 36 New
    +1
    Probably like gold by weight))
  11. Brturin
    Brturin 21 December 2018 14: 40 New
    +1
    Trump gave the command - 2% for defense, where to go - the Hungarians decided to do it, but not quite "correctly" instead of supporting their older brother (purchases of Abrams and Paladins), they bought Leopards and PzH 2000. Trump may not like this ..
  12. Wolf
    Wolf 21 December 2018 14: 53 New
    +4
    An underestimate of a German tank can a person who does not know much. Probably 2 A7 + after Armate themselves are the lushchi tank in the world. Abramsi, Leclerci, Challengery, etc. to his knees. It can beat just T90MS can supernichit on a level. There, Germany, Prussia and Luzhichki Serbia (Slaveni) always knew how to make weapons well. Prussia of Glory (the same as they scored UTB) is no longer the difference with the rest of the Slavs. Turks are a new fairy tale.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 21 December 2018 16: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Wolf
      .Abramsey, Leclerci, Challengery, etc. to his knees.

      That's about leklerka especially in mod. AZUR I do not agree with you, a very bad tank, dear - yes, voracious - yes, but not bad, but the British - yes, nothing ...
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 22 December 2018 22: 59 New
        0
        Yes, all these are toys that are constantly evolving, they will never fight.
  13. Communist for the truth
    Communist for the truth 21 December 2018 14: 55 New
    +3
    They strangled them near Voronezh ... They didn’t take prisoner ... Budapest 56th .... Again they went under the German. God willing, see you, we'll count for everything soldier
  14. Black owerlord
    Black owerlord 21 December 2018 15: 14 New
    +1
    In general, 2A7 must be sent to Israel for testing. The crews there are experienced, they are constantly at war, so there will be a normal test drive, and not like the Arabs, and kebabs that "bought a tank, don't buy it."
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 21 December 2018 19: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Black Owerlord
      In general, 2A7 must be sent to Israel for testing.

      Who do you want?
  15. Strashila
    Strashila 21 December 2018 15: 21 New
    +1
    "there are only 15 active T-72M / M1 tanks," which means that Poroshenko will soon announce the arrival of new equipment in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  16. Graz
    Graz 21 December 2018 17: 25 New
    0
    a contract for 1 billion Baku, and whether Hungary has money for this, something is doubtful
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 December 2018 17: 42 New
      +3
      They will sell cucumbers and peas Globus and Bonduel at Olivieska in Russia and buy Leopolds laughing .

      By the way there is still MEGACONTRACT to the shooter - 200 pieces. Big contract with the Czechs - the NM Arsenal enterprise in Kishkunfeledhaz began assembling sets of pistols, assault rifles and assault rifles. Which will become the main for the next decades in the police and army.

      We chose CZ 806 BREN2 - under 5.56. SCORPION EVO 3 - under 9х19. And P-07 / P-09 is also under 9x19. Everything is made at the enterprises of Ceska Zbrojovka and is assembled in Hungary.

      Under the contract, they will collect more than 200 thousand weapons - and Hungary has the right to export.

      Now:
      Hungarian Minister of Defense Benko Tibor said that at present NM Arsenal collected more 10 thousand units of weapons specified samples and that in the near future it is planned to start organizing lines for localized production there.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 21 December 2018 17: 42 New
        +3
        Products themselves:
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 21 December 2018 17: 43 New
          +3
          One of the pistols
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 21 December 2018 17: 43 New
            +2
            Well, the main product SHV ​​- Bren2
  17. 1536
    1536 21 December 2018 17: 41 New
    +1
    What markets have our defense industry lost as a result of the collapse of the USSR!
    1. RL
      RL 21 December 2018 18: 34 New
      +2
      The Hungarians produced at their enterprises converted AK for their army. The Czechs did not use AK at all. Used their vz. 58. Outwardly resembling a Kalashnikov assault rifle, Sa vz. 58 uses a different principle of automation, and AK stores are not compatible with this machine.
  18. rayruav
    rayruav 21 December 2018 18: 28 New
    +1
    always been pro-German bastards and we have no reason to spare them
  19. san4es
    san4es 21 December 2018 18: 28 New
    +2
    ... the German company will supply the Hungarian Ministry with 44 Leopard 2A7 + main tanks
    Weight, kg 67500
    Length, mm 10970
    Width, mm 4000
    Height, mm 2640
    Engine power, hp 1500
    Maximum speed on the highway, km / h 72
    Cruising on highway, km 450
    Caliber of the main gun, mm 120
    Barrel length, calibres 55 ... hi
    http://www.army-guide.com/rus/product4464.html
  20. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 21 December 2018 19: 07 New
    +3
    Carpathians are getting ready to wring out.
  21. nafanal
    nafanal 22 December 2018 13: 21 New
    0
    Are tank tents not included?
  22. Sarcasm
    Sarcasm 22 December 2018 15: 56 New
    -2
    Leopard 2 is Abrams for the poor, the tower only fires on the road. Ps in the entire history of the US Abrams’s use, the tank crew never died in full force, unlike Merkav teshek and as we see the Leopards.