What is the phenomenon of Stalin

Old Russia died in the cruel agony of 1914-1920. It was impossible to restore it. The White movement tried to restore the old Russia, without autocracy, but the white project (liberal bourgeois, pro-Western) suffered a complete collapse. The people did not accept him, and the whites suffered a terrible defeat.


What is the phenomenon of Stalin


The only way out was to create a new society, state and civilization based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix-code, that is, social justice and the ethics of conscience. This is the essence of Stalin's phenomenon and the new wave of his popularity in modern Russia. The people at the level of the general subconscious sense that it was the red emperor who groped for the correct, correct path of development for Russia, which led civilization and the people into the future, to a new qualitatively different level of development. The country then needed a qualitative breakthrough, a leap into the future. It was necessary to jump into the "bright future", otherwise - a new catastrophe and the final death of Russian civilization and the millennial Russian super-ethnos. It was this great mission that fell to the lot of the former seminarian, professional revolutionary and self-taught person who had studied all his life. Stalin began the creation of an empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

To understand Stalin and his time, it is necessary to look at the time when he had to shoulder the burden of power. 1920-s. Russia barely floated out of the horror of the world massacre, bloody unrest and intervention. Millions of victims, refugees, beggars and cripples. The catastrophe of the former development project nearly killed the Russian civilization and the country. The Bolsheviks literally miraculously saved the country and the people from destruction. But the situation was extremely difficult. Economy and transport in ruin. The industry has collapsed, degraded, the industrial expansion of the beginning of the 20th century is long past. Not a single large enterprise or power plant has been created, there are no large-scale construction projects for transport projects. Gold stock plundered and lost. Huge capital, financial means were taken abroad by representatives of the former elite, the aristocracy, the bourgeoisie, the White Guards and the representatives of the Lenin Guard themselves. Agriculture was hardly restored, but on the whole the village is still in the past - there are very few tractors and mechanized tools, horses are used at best, and own forces at worst. Most of the peasant farms live in subsistence farming, on self-feed. The village lives in poverty, starving. At the same time, a stratum of wealthy owners, fists, who exploit the farm laborers, stands out. Soviet Russia in isolation. West strong Russia to anything. External investment is not, as there is no access to advanced technologies. The USSR was to become an underdeveloped country, where the industry will develop mainly in the extraction of resources and in the light, food industry. The country is mainly agrarian, as is the Russian Empire.

The Soviet party elite in such a situation could become a semi-colonial administration that would firmly crush any people's displeasure with the help of the Cheka, the Red Army and special forces (often non-Russian - Latvians, Hungarians, Chinese, etc.), gradually turning Russia into a semicolony of the West and East (Japan). At the same time, the party elite itself will bathe in luxury, will become a new elite, which can travel abroad, buy property abroad, luxury goods, they are given special supplies, goods for “chosen ones” will be purchased for currency for the sale of resources. Their children will study at the best schools in Europe, etc. The best factories and mines, deposits and forests were transferred to perpetual concessions to Western and Japanese campaigns. In particular, among such Western concessionaires was the famous "official friend" of the USSR Armand Hammer, who in 20-e beginning 30-s at bargain prices bought and removed from Russia Gokhran jewels, antiquities, paintings, sculptures from the Hermitage. The country was to become a supplier of grain, other products of agriculture, forests, oil, metals, and at the same time a sales market for foreign goods. All this will be implemented after the 1991 year, and could become a reality already in 1920-1930-s.

Thus, the USSR could become a typical goner country, a state without a future. And the ruling Communist Party, which replaced the noble-bourgeois elite of the Russian Empire, could become a semi-colonial administration, feeding people with tales of a "bright future." In Soviet Russia, according to the plans of the Western masters, they would build a testing ground for a pseudo-communist, Marxist model of a pyramid society, based on mute and disenfranchised masses (slaves), and on top of international revolutionaries associated with the global mafia (the so-called “financial internationalist "," world backstage ", etc.). Later this model could be extended to most of the planet - the “world revolution”. This model was represented in the USSR by revolutionaries-internationalists, supporters of Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and other party leaders.

This is the legacy inherited by Joseph Dzhugashvili - the future red emperor, the last emperor of Russia-USSR. He got completely finished, killed the country. He could quietly enjoy life, the luxury of an affordable party elite. To equip yourself, family and friends "spare airfields" in Western countries. Establish contacts with Western "friends and partners" in Italy, Germany, France and the United States.

According to all objective, analytical estimates, it turned out that, in the current situation, the final death of civilization and the country was ahead. The party elite could still use two or three decades of enormous raw materials and a thousand-year culturalhistorical heritage (priceless artifacts of Russian history, objects of art, etc.) for personal enrichment and the creation of capital for the well-fed and beautiful life of their families in the West or East. But the future of Russia-the USSR did not have a model of the beginning - the mid-1920s. Then there was either a long and painful agony with economic stagnation, with hunger and spontaneous urban and peasant riots, uprisings, famine, mass epidemics, falling away of national suburbs, and the seizure of a number of territories by neighbors. Or a rather quick death from economic collapse, new unrest, and military defeat from any great power - Japan, Germany, or a coalition of powers. In Europe during this period aggressive authoritarian, militaristic, Nazi and fascist states took shape, which was associated with the beginning of the second stage of the crisis of capitalism. therefore The military collapse of Soviet Russia, deindustrialized, agrarian and peasant, not having a strong economy and, accordingly, a modern army was obvious and inevitable. Virtually all of Russia's then-neighbors had territorial claims to it, drew on its potentially rich lands and resources, and wanted to build their great powers at the expense of the Russian lands. Among the contenders for the Russian territory were Japan, Finland, Poland, Germany, Romania, Turkey. Only a miracle, a breakthrough into the future, into a new technological and civilizational structure could save Russia.

It seemed that in the second half of 20's, the worst predictions began to come to life. The new economic policy (NEP) has stabilized the situation, but has exhausted its positive aspects. Since 1927, the grain harvest crisis began. Cities with their outdated, weak industry could not provide the village with all the necessary goods. The village refuses to sell bread. We have to re-enter the ration cards. The village is on the verge of a new peasant war and famine. Cities continue to decay - unemployment (people flee from the city to the village where they can live subsistence farming), poverty, the masses of beggars and beggars, the homeless, orphans. New wave of crime. The Golden Calf, a novel by Ilf and Petrov, perfectly conveyed this whole atmosphere of theft and scam that permeated Russia of that time. The dominance of the Soviet bureaucracy, which by the number of consumers surpassed the king's. The merging of the party-soviet apparatus with organized crime began. In the top of the party tough confrontation over the future of the USSR.

At the same time, the people as a whole were exsanguinated by a world war, a revolution and subsequent turmoil, a massacre and terror. Human capital was extremely low. Millions of people died or fled abroad. The collapse of the Russian Romanovs was accompanied by a psychocaster. People did not believe and were afraid of the future, their psychology was formed by the world and civil wars, that is, a terrible wave of violence, fear and great blood. The previous ethics of morality and labor were destroyed. The great evil that broke free in 1917 year only calmed down a bit and was ready to flood the country again. In Russia, there was a whole army of revolutionaries who could only destroy: the state, the church, the “outdated” morality, the “outdated” art, culture and history. There was the intelligentsia, which for a century had been brought up in love of the West and hatred of Russia, nihilism, lack of faith, and could not create. There were hundreds of thousands of world and civil war fighters in the country, former "green" bandits, anarchists who knew the taste of powerlessness, unpunished robbery and murder, red heroes who were used to freedom weapon Basmachi and nationalists, etc. The potential for a new explosion was gigantic. It took literally a miracle to send this huge destructive potential, black energy into a creative channel.

Thus, the Russian sample 1920-s quickly crawled to a new distemper, civil and peasant war, great blood, collapse and famine. Ahead again, the separation of national suburbs, the wild massacre and the invasion of neighbors. In particular, Finland, where the radicals dream of “Great Finland” up to the Northern Urals (the minimum program is to seize all of Karelia and the Kola Peninsula); Poland, which is small in Western Belarus and Western Ukraine. New invasion of Japan in Primorye, in the Far East, mountains of corpses. The arrival of the White emigres, who still retained their fighting efficiency, and all this time they were accumulating hatred and preparing for a new war. They were preparing for revenge and reprisals against the enemy, they did not have a creative program.

There were no scenarios for saving the country in the programs of whites, the right and left opposition in the Communist Party, or the ideas of economists of old Russia. All alternatives to the hard Stalinist course led eventually to even greater sacrifices among the people than was the case in real history. They ended in an inevitable new catastrophe modeled on 1917 of the year. and the complete disintegration of the country and civilization already in the 1930's. A detonator for the final collapse of Russia was either an external invasion, a lost war, or a confrontation between the government and the people, town and country that reached the point of a new civilizational battle.

That is, the great sacrifices made by Russia and the people for the sake of salvation were inevitable. The difference was that under the Stalinist course the victims were meaningful, expedient - a new reality was created, a new world-civilization, a society of the future were being built. Sacrifices were made for the sake of common development and prosperity, for the sake of a breakthrough, a breakthrough into the future. In other development scenarios (the victory of internationalist revolutionaries, Trotskyists, whites, etc.), all the victims became meaningless and in vain, as they led to the complete and final destruction of Russian civilization and the superethnos of the Russians (Russians).

Thus, Stalin managed to do the almost impossible. He not only kept Russia on the brink of a new catastrophe, but made a breakthrough into the future. Created a new reality, a new civilization and a society of the future. Opened for the Russian civilization and the people, for all mankind the door to the future, a different "sunny" world of the "beautiful is far." Therefore, his image is so popular in Russia, if people don’t understand at the level of consciousness, they feel at the level of the general subconscious that only a similar breakthrough can save civilization from final degradation and collapse. The last emperor went against all forecasts and calculations, all external and internal enemies of Russia-USSR and won!
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  1. Uncle lee 21 December 2018 05: 54 New
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    Stalin began to build the empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

    Today is 140 years since the birth of I.V. Stalin.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 21 December 2018 05: 59 New
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      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Stalin began to build the empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

      Today is 140 years since the birth of I.V. Stalin.

      how often we began to recall Joseph Vissarionovich ... because now they only feed us with promises of “breakthroughs” and “ups” ..
      1. Stas157 21 December 2018 06: 30 New
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        With a fair, socialist method of housekeeping, our country, like a Phoenix bird, twice rose from the ashes and found itself at the forefront. And with "effective" capitalism, capitalism "for its own", modern Russia, even on the basis of a rich inheritance inherited from the powerful economy of the USSR, vegetates from crisis to crisis, and only in words (of Putin) does it promise us new breakthroughs.
        1. Ross xnumx 21 December 2018 06: 38 New
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          Country then needed a qualitative breakthrough, a leap into the future. It was necessary to jump into a "bright future", otherwise - a new catastrophe and the final death of Russian civilization and thousands of years of Russian superethnos.

          Stalin managed to find the ways and means of this breakthrough, and the USSR was a superpower, the mere sound of the anthem of which caused tears of happiness in some, and fear and hysteria in others. The new government is trying to jump above its head while climbing onto the shoulders of the people, without even thinking for a moment to exchange the flag and anthem for gold medals of dubious dignity.
          1. nils 21 December 2018 07: 35 New
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            Quote: ROSS 42
            Stalin managed to find ways and means of a breakthrough and the USSR was a superpower. The new government is trying to jump above his head while climbing on the shoulders of the people .......

            In one kingdom-state, leaders all tried to raise their state from its knees. They understand, raise, but can’t lift. They began to think and wonder what to do. Here is one of them, the smartest, and says:
            - And, come on, let's go to Stalin, we will consult how to be. He did it after all.
            And they came to Stalin and asked:
            - Joseph Vissarionovich, tell me what needs to be done to raise the country from its knees?
            Stalin smiled at his mustache, then looked at them sternly and said:
            - After what you have done to raise a country, you must first shoot you.

            Vladimir Vladimirovich sleeps, and Joseph Vissarionovich dreams of him.
            Putin asks Stalin:
            “Can I help you somehow?”
            - Why is everything bad with us, the economy is falling apart, etc ... What should I do?
            Stalin, without hesitation, replies:
            - To shoot the entire government and paint the walls of the Kremlin in blue.
            “But why in blue?”
            - I assumed that the discussion will be only on the second issue.

            In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

            Today, for one dirty, unsecured green piece of paper issued by the state, which is just about a kirdyk, you need to give 68 units of a solid and stable currency that has risen from the knees of one superpower.

            At a reception at the American embassy, ​​the US ambassador boasted that they say they have a sorcerer in Alabama who picks up the dead. Molotov, who was present at the reception, calmly noted that in the USSR there is also a wonderful athlete who runs ahead of the plane.
            Khrushchev, having heard about this fact, called Molotov to him.
            - Why are you talking about it, Mikhalych? Well, how will they demand to present a miracle athlete?
            “We will first demand that they present their necromancer.”
            - And if presented?
            - We demand verification, let it raise ... Stalin, for example.
            - And ... and ... suddenly he will raise - what then? ..
            “Then you, Nikita, aren't that plane — you will overtake a rocket.”

            Putin thanked the Russians for their own election and promised to fight to increase real incomes of citizens. About the unrealistic income of members of the government and officials from the presidential administration, he preferred to remain silent.

            - Kum, it seems that we have bred a new breed of bosses - the leader ...
            1. Tatyana 21 December 2018 08: 22 New
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              The last emperor (Stalin) went against all forecasts and calculations, all the external and internal enemies of Russia-the USSR and won!

              Good article about Stalin. It is a pity that nothing was written about the role of Stalin in the victory of the USSR in the Second World War. And meanwhile, about Stalin the people went excellent approving jokes.

              For example, a great joke about Stalin.

              At the Tehran Conference, Roosevelt and Churchill were tired that only Stalin’s proposals were being passed and that he was dictating his will to them. And they decided to play Stalin.
              In the morning before the next meeting, Churchill said:
              - Today I had a dream that I became Lord of the World!
              “And I dreamed,” said Roosevelt, “that I became Lord of the Universe!” And what did you dream of, Marshal Stalin?
              “And I dreamed,” Stalin answered leisurely, “that I did not confirm either you, Mr. Churchill, or you, Mr. Roosevelt.”
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                1. For example 21 December 2018 09: 48 New
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                  The USSR was ...

                  Of course it was wassat
                  And the coffee was

                  ... based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix code, that is, social justice and ethics of conscience ...
                  .
                  Blah blah blah...
                  The communists destroyed the church, but in flight they changed their shoes and the Orthodox foundations of Russian society gave out as a “matrix-code” and similar crap.

                  Stalin just ruled as an autocrat.
                  Our people lived with the king in their hearts and accepted Stalin as the next ruler. Let the impostor, but he stopped the collapse of Russia.
                  1. tyyt 21 December 2018 13: 16 New
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                    Quote: For example
                    Stalin just ruled as an autocrat.

                    No, Dzhugashvili was not an autocrat. He was the owner. Everything and everything in the USSR, including people. This is somewhat different. A more relict state of society than autocracy.
                    A certain analogue of the autocracy, but in its own way, was "Soviet power." But this period did not last long, less than 10 years.
                  2. Mcar 21 December 2018 17: 55 New
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                    And the coffee was

                    According to the rules of the Russian language, "coffee" is of a secondary kind. I found out relatively recently ...
                    1. Rostislav Prokopenko 22 December 2018 09: 25 New
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                      A masculine distorted "coffee". He was in shock ...
                      1. Freeman 22 December 2018 15: 06 New
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                        Quote: Rostislav Prokopenko
                        A masculine distorted "coffee". He was in shock ...

                        Actually, "coffee" (male genus) was the original name of the drink.
                        This is already "coffee" - "distorted."
                    2. Freeman 22 December 2018 14: 55 New
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                      Quote: McAr
                      Quote: For example
                      And the coffee was

                      According to the rules of the Russian language, "coffee" is of a secondary kind. I found out relatively recently ...

                      That's right. This "norm" (and not only for "coffee") was legalized by "Order of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation of 08.06.2009 No. 195 of June 8, 2009." signed by Minister Fursenko.
                      https://www.mk.ru/social/article/2009/08/31/343231-kofe-stal-srednego-roda.html
                      Threat. It is a pity that this minister did not issue an order allowing to incline "evo surname".
                      ZY.ZY. "Literary bike" about what kind of word "coffee"
                      1. Short version-joke
                      Once upon a time, back in Soviet times, a barmaid from the Moscow House of Writers complained to her friend: "What kind of illiterates they are, these writers! They come up and ask:" Give one coffee, give one coffee! ". Only Rasul Gamzatov always says:" I’m Adyna coffee! "And then adds:" And Adyn bun! "
                      Coffee is a masculine and neuter gender. The masculine gender is a strict literary norm, the middle gender is permissible colloquial use.

                      2. The "full" version is "Rasul Gamzatov, a bun and coffee."
                      http://www.moidagestan.ru/blogs/43050/31873
                      1. Mcar 22 December 2018 15: 07 New
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                        Quote: Freeman
                        That's right. This "norm" (and not only for "coffee") was legalized by "Order of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation of 08.06.2009 No. 195 of June 8, 2009." signed by Minister Fursenko.
                        https://www.mk.ru/social/article/2009/08/31/343231-kofe-stal-srednego-roda.html
                        Threat. It is a pity that this minister did not issue an order allowing to incline "evo surname".

                        The word coffee comes from German. A rare case with the genus. According to German rules, "coffee" is masculine. According to the rules of the Russian language, all nouns ending in O or E are of the middle gender: field, grief, sea, eye, coat, etc.

                        So this question is not to Fursenko, but to the previous linguists.

                        PS. If for every borrowed word to keep all its overseas rules, will it not be bold?
                      2. Freeman 22 December 2018 15: 26 New
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                        Quote: McAr
                        Quote: Freeman
                        That's right. This "norm" (and not only for "coffee") was legalized by "Order of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation of 08.06.2009 No. 195 of June 8, 2009." signed by Minister Fursenko.
                        https://www.mk.ru/social/article/2009/08/31/343231-kofe-stal-srednego-roda.html
                        Threat. It is a pity that this minister did not issue an order allowing to incline "evo surname".

                        The word coffee comes from German. A rare case with the genus. According to German rules, "coffee" is masculine. According to the rules of the Russian language, all nouns ending in O or E are of the middle gender: field, grief, sea, eye, coat, etc.

                        So this question is not to Fursenko, but to the previous linguists.

                        PS. If for every borrowed word to keep all its overseas rules, will it not be bold?

                        But every “rule” is valuable with “exceptions.” So we’ll go over to Surzhik.
                        Threat. I'm not a grammar-nazi. Me too

                        lol
                      3. Mcar 22 December 2018 15: 43 New
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                        Quote: Freeman
                        But every “rule” is valuable with “exceptions.”

                        There is no reason or field for exclusion. Except one thing - so Tsar Peter wanted.

                        Quote: Freeman
                        So we’ll go over to Surzhik.

                        So already crossed.

                        If the teenager from the 80s is moved nowadays, he will not understand his peers. Check, loot, use, crazy, coachman, traffic, loser, release, flashback, interface, content, trend, podcast, casting, gadget and another car with a cart like that. None of this was in the speech quite recently. So the language of youth in all respects is surzhik.
                      4. Freeman 22 December 2018 16: 15 New
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                        McAr (Alexander) Today, 15:43
                        So the language of youth in all respects is surzhik.

                        Youth "slang" at all times was "incomprehensible" to the older generation.
                        He "lived and developed" according to the "trends of the time."
                        60-e
                        “Yesterday we were hobbling along Broadway, one of my sidekicks promised shuyahs on porridge and drove about the cauldrons about the boilers, but it wasn’t lucky - he threw the frakers, having brought some sort of Riga together. There were maniacs, we decided to go to Aist, so there the redneck raised a squeal because of my baruche. They couldn’t come to me in the hut: laces in a glass. Let's go to her. They listened to the pile of bones, posted them, clambered over, there wasn’t any mood for rampant, and we got into it. ”
                        70-e
                        "When I drank the policy haer baldly for a long time, I chased away for a long time. Even my ancestors approved of my face, I would have gotten a shovel outfit, they would have gotten bugs from buzz. But I got such jokes, I felt like a tormentor without a hirat. Gerla mine then, at first, joked at me, then generally skipped. I killed the walked, sat like a douche, drunk to craze, nothing touched.
                        "80s
                        “Yesterday they broke off to get into the session, inside a cloud of some washcloths. I had to take my sister on Gogol Yanis Abaskaitis. Askali, here the birch raked up. Well, I stumbled on the lovers. Then the system broke, they stomped into the Tourist. There are no systems there , one familiar iron just hung out, wrote to himself, gave 20 bucks on loan. And in the morning stop on M2. "
                        90-e
                        "There, the bulls were roofing at first the stall, and everything was by definition. Then they came to them on the arrow some losers with farts, and they both started up on red. After the breeders sent some honest kid, so what? Ale-male , he began to drift through life a year later, covered the jackets, began to suck the bucks in three throats. Baklanil, in a word, harshly. Even the garbage got such an outrageous mess he endured, they closed the question with him

                        Although some of the "momentum" and entrenched, but many died out completely.
            2. Lyuba1965_01 24 December 2018 21: 52 New
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              Yes, the communists destroyed the church. But have you ever wondered why they did it?
              Or, in your opinion, just like that, out of a whim?
              And this was done based on the needs of a young country.
              In fact, under tsarism, the church was a state in the state, had an influence on the minds and mood of ordinary people, which were the majority. And Stalin, as a former seminarian, understood this perfectly.
              Tell me, who will tolerate a second power in a country that is on the edge of the abyss?
              And what would happen if they left the church and the faith, which could at any moment go against the new government?
              Civil war again?
              Blood again, murders?
              But at that time there was no other force, except for the Bolsheviks, who would be for Russia, and not for turning it into a colony of the West.
              The intelligentsia at that time (as well as the current one) literally bowed to all the Westerners. Was there any confidence that they would not put Russia at the feet of their idols?
              But nevertheless, Stalin, composing the moral code of the builders of communism, took a lot from the biblical commandments.
              My grandmother at that time was a teacher in a parish school. As she spoke with the priest on this topic, Ion told her that the Bolsheviks did not cancel the faith, they just gave her a different name and slightly adapted to the new time.
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        2. Claymore 21 December 2018 09: 38 New
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          Quote: Tatiana
          At the Tehran Conference

          Far from the northern ruins
          Blue Tehran burns.
          - What a meeting, Marshal Stalin!
          Sly Churchill says.

          I believe in good omens
          Today I had a dream.
          The leader of the planet
          I was appointed in a dream!

          Of course this elevation
          Please do not take it seriously ...
          - Which, right, coincidence,
          - With a smile, Roosevelt said.

          As a sign of our meeting unforgettable
          Today I had a dream.
          Leader of the universe
          I was appointed in a dream!

          Thinking, Stalin was not embarrassed,
          Slowly lit up the pipe:
          - I also had a dream today
          - I have not approved anyone!
          1. Tatyana 22 December 2018 14: 58 New
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            Quote: Claymore
            Quote: Tatyana At the Tehran Conference
            Far from the northern ruins
            Blue Tehran burns.
            - What a meeting, Marshal Stalin!
            Sly Churchill says.
            ………… ...

            Claymore! Bravo! good Only modern Lermontov could write like that! yes
        3. solzh 21 December 2018 09: 43 New
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          excellent approving jokes went about people about Stalin.

          And there were more poems and songs. Here is one of them. Wrote by Mikhail Isakovsky - Song of Stalin:
          (https://rustih.ru/mixail-isakovskij-pesnya-o-staline/)

          The fertile steppes make noise
          Rich rivers flow
          Spring Dawns Sparkle
          Over our happy housing.
          Sing, comrades, a song
          About the biggest man
          About the most dear and beloved, -
          We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

          He led us into a battle with enemies -
          For happiness, for a share to fight,
          He poured vigor and strength into us
          On the glorious battle path.
          Sing, comrades, a song
          About the biggest commander,
          About the most fearless and powerful
          We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

          The boundaries of the Union of Soviets
          He covered black ravens
          Wore them with concrete and stone
          And flooded with cast iron.
          Sing, comrades, a song
          About the greatest watchman
          Who sees and hears everything, -
          We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

          Like the springtime sun
          He goes around his native land,
          He grows courage and joy
          In his own garden.
          Sing, comrades, a song
          About the biggest gardener
          About the most beloved and wise, -
          We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

          He created for the happiness of peoples
          Unbreakable law forever
          Spring clear dawns
          He lit over our housing.
          Sing, comrades, a song
          About the dearest person
          About the sun, about the truth of nations -
          We’ll sing a song about Stalin.
          1. Tatyana 21 December 2018 16: 29 New
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            Quote: solzh
            And there were more poems and songs.
            Yes. And the people knew about com and about than Soviet songs were composed and sang them!

            Artillery March (Stalin gave the order)

            MARCH OF ARTILLERS
            V. M. Gusev Original text of the 1943 of the year

            CHORUS:
            Gunners, Stalin gave the order!
            Artillerymen, calling the Motherland of us!
            Of hundreds of thousands of batteries
            For the tears of our mothers,
            For our Motherland - fire, fire!

            .....
            The hour of victory will strike, the campaign will end
            But before you go to your family’s homes,
            In honor of our Leader, in honor of our people
            We will give a salute in the victorious hour!


            March of Soviet tank crews (Armor is strong and our tanks are fast) - from the movie "Tractor Drivers" (1939 years release)

            CHORUS
            Thundering with fire, sparkling with the brilliance of steel,
            The cars will go on a furious campaign,
            When comrade Stalin sends us into battle,
            And the first marshal will lead us to battle!
            1. Tatyana 21 December 2018 16: 44 New
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              Soon 71 years ago as the bloodiest war in human history ended.
              Nevertheless, historians, surviving witnesses of those terrible years and their descendants are still trying to understand whether everything was done in order to prevent a war.
              In particular, the was there an anti-Stalinist conspiracy in the army before the war, and who was responsible for the deaths of millions of people in its first months?
              And no less interesting are the questions how Generalissimo Stalin was preparing for war and at what cost he came to the grand victory of the Soviet Union.

              This documentary-analytical film will tell about the role of Stalin in the victory over German and West European fascism.

              Joseph Stalin - When comrade Stalin sends us into battle. Published: 18 Nov 2015
              1. rfv18 22 December 2018 15: 33 New
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                he came to the grand victory of the Soviet Union.

                Dzhugashvili came to the victory of the USSR. Twisted steeper than a pig’s tail.
                And then, you might think that only the USSR came to Victory. The anti-Hitler coalition consisted of 53 states. And these are all winners of the Axis, by the way.
                However, only in Europe there were four main winners.
                1. Etienne 25 December 2018 04: 50 New
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                  But History, all the same, would not be bad to know.
                  On June 24, 1941, two days after the aggression of fascist Germany against the USSR, the future US president Harry Truman published an article in the New York Times that said: “If we see that Germany wins, we should help Russia, and if Russia wins, then we should help Germany. ”
                  So after all, they sat in the bushes until the summer of 1944. Not only that, they were ready to conclude a separate peace with Hitler behind the back of the USSR, they left weapons for the captured Germans. Where does the loss come from? - Germans threw all their forces to the east and our "allies" rolled on their jeeps and dodges with almost no resistance. And in general, the presence of such an abundance of "gifted" commentators once again confirms how serious the goals the West has set before it, which was once beaten and defeated by Russia,. Frivolity with such "partners" is a pleasure too expensive.
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                  back to school you have very outdated information about the course of the Second World War. We were all taught from the wrong textbooks and the wrong teachers!
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      In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

      - you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....
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        you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth.

        You’ll empty the shops now, they’ll come out in an instant
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        and old and mature and youth ..
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          You’ll empty the shops now, they’ll come out in an instant
          -so then there were
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          free apartments, hospitals, holiday homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities
          ,not?
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            free apartments, hospitals, holiday homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities

            Yes. You won’t be fed up with a free apartment. Only the deficit is rather strange. Tobacco, for example. When Yeltsin closed 26 tobacco factories for repairs. I am sure that now, if such a deficit had arisen, the matter would not have been limited to the three dead defenders of the White House, they would have gone to smash everything in a row, and not to a demonstration with the slogans "billions of EP to the people." By the way, in our city, on the square, there stood about 20 people with the banner "Down with the Emergency Committee." And that’s all.
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              Quote: your1970
              Quote: nils
              In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

              - you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....

              This is a snapshot of the reign in the USSR of Mishka Gorbachev with his so-called "new thinking." The picture, presumably, is 1989-1991 of the year.
              You cannot sophistically replace historical times and deliberately demagogically confuse them with each other and swap them in your political propaganda!

              And where does the time of Stalin appear in the picture?
              Do not confuse Stalin’s “God's gift” with Gorbachev’s “fabirge”!

              USSR: Commodity shortage (video chronicle 1989-91)
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                USSR: Commodity shortage (video chronicle 1989-91)

                all these chronicles of the perestroika period are Custom. At that time, it was possible to show and say all the bad and that contributes to the collapse, but it was impossible to categorically offer At least save something from Socialism!
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              Yes. You won’t be fed up with a free apartment.

              how else to explain? !!!!
              In the days of the USSR, there was everything - nevertheless they stood and demanded "Billions of the CPSU-people!", "We want to eat!"
              Now everything is different (power, system, money, country) - and the slogans are the same: "Billions of Chubais - to the people!", "We want to eat!"
              Deja vu .....
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                In Soviet times, there was everything

                The USSR in different years is a different country. I see only one way - it is a criminal liability for unfulfilled promises of politicians!
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                In Soviet times, there was everything

                The USSR in different years is a different country. I see only one way - it is a criminal liability for unfulfilled promises of politicians!
                -and you will find a lot of wanting a criminal?
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              want to eat again?
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      you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....


      what are the differences?
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      And what do you want the transition from socialism to capitalism.
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        wax 22 December 2018 23: 34 New
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        What capitalism? American? So for this you need to throw a noose around the world. Haitian? Well, here we look quite worthy. And how long will the transition period last if hundreds of billions of dollars flow to the West each year?
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          To Haitian?

          Haitian capitalism does not exist.
          And in general, there are not many capitalist countries in the world. It is only out of ignorance that all countries are called capitalist.
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            Haitian capitalism is not, of course, however, as well as English. There is capitalism, and there is a leading country - America. And it is she who determines the development of other countries. Therefore, the meaning of my hyperbole is that we are not destined for the dreams that we are developing into capitalism, as in America. By the way, the backlog from America does not decrease, as in the USSR, until the 80s, but magnifies, because we have a smaller percentage of GDP growth over the years with lower GDP. So where will the "transition period from socialism to capitalism" lead us?
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        And what do you want the transition from socialism to capitalism.

        The transition from socialism to capitalism is called feudalism. And this is for a long time, the whole formation in all its stages.
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          The transition from socialism to capitalism is called feudalism.

          this is something new in history. is it being taught that way now?
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      you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....

      And what are united and identical. Now others. Mavericks. But essentially the same fooled as we are now
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      In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

      - you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....

      You look into the madhouse - there are old and mature, and young people.
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    penultimate joke - very good !!!!!!
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    In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest houses, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities,

    The faith of loafers in a freebie is sacred. She is unshakable, like a monument. Like a monument to stupidity.
    Loafers cannot understand the simple truth, nothing is ever free. If someone gives them something and it is not clear why they give it with one hand, you need to carefully monitor his second hand. In the vast majority of cases, you can see a lot of interesting things.
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      The faith of loafers in a freebie is sacred. She is unshakable, like a monument. Like a monument to stupidity.
      Loafers cannot understand the simple truth, nothing is ever free. If someone gives them something and it is not clear why they give it with one hand, you need to carefully monitor his second hand. In the vast majority of cases, you can see a lot of interesting things.

      Loafers are the whole working country, and a freebie built, earned by these people and transferred to them.
      And what you have earned is obviously modern wealth. Tell me, maybe, how hard honest work have they earned? And then no such example immediately comes to mind. All somehow others climb into the head ...
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        Loafers are the whole working country, and a freebie built, earned by these people and transferred to them.

        And what has the “working country” built in 7 years? She didn’t build anything. They made a hole in the ground and lived from the exhausts. That's all their "construction".
        And what was really built, then it was then necessary to cut and sell metal. Because nobody needed the products of these "productions". While there was no choice, we bought this “product”. How did the choice appear - these "production" in the furnace.
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          Because nobody needed the products of these "productions".

          Yes, yes, but the products of current plants are torn off with their hands. Where to find these plants ...
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          And what has the “working country” built in 7 years? She didn’t build anything. They made a hole in the ground and lived from the exhausts. That's all their "construction".

          built a lot of things. And she sold a lot, but not consumer goods but industrial products. Well, 200 million can not be completely self-sufficient and even the best in everything! In addition, Khrushchev braked a lot, created a brake system, and off ...
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            built a lot of things

            It’s easy to build. It is difficult to build what will produce products that are in demand IN THE OUTDOOR MARKET. But with this, the USSR was bad.
            Quote: aybolyt678
            And she sold a lot, but not consumer goods but industrial products.

            You confuse the terms "sell" and "ship." A lot of things were shipped in debt. Nobody had ever planned to repay those debts.
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            In addition, Khrushchev braked a lot, created a brake system, and off ...

            You must go to Khrushchev’s grave every day and wear flowers there. Because he pushed through a 20-year development program for the oil and gas industry. And it was about this that he said that in 20 years our children will live under communism
            If not for his program, the USSR would have collapsed as early as the 70s. Maximum, in the 80s.
            And today, Russia is largely fed the outcome of that program.

            Missiles, and the nuclear shield of the USSR as a whole, is his doing. The incompetent Dzhugashvili paid almost no attention to missiles; he made bombers. Which did not even have a theoretical opportunity to fly to the United States.
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              Khrushchev adopted a country that had great inertial power and continued to carry out space and nuclear programs not because of, but contrary to ... And how many major economic projects were closed almost immediately, because they were just planned.
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              Khrushchev adopted a country that had great inertial force

              Khrushchev took over the country, every 10 years (at least) interrupting from hunger to hunger. The last famine was in 1946. Dzhugashvili died in 1953. Khrushchev was able to avoid starvation in the 50s and 60s. Only for this he needs to put a monument. In Red Square, instead of the mausoleum.
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            It’s easy to build. It is difficult to build what will produce products that are in demand IN THE OUTDOOR MARKET
            You probably don’t know, but under the USSR, on the “open market”, Japan bought CNC machines in the USSR, as they wrote in The Spark of the times of “tagged”, supposedly for scrap. It seems they were so heavy that they were only suitable for scrap. Are you the author of this "light" masterpiece?
            You must go to Khrushchev’s grave every day and wear flowers there.
            What else should we wear on his grave? If Khrushchev had been removed from power under Stalin then the Soviet Union would still be alive. This fellow with his exposures of the “personality cult” at the 20th Congress dealt such a blow to the communist movement throughout the world as was not dealt by all the media and all the propaganda of the capitalist states combined ... And his army reduction, when he decided that if there are missiles, then nothing more is needed, either the barrel artillery in the ground forces or the ships in the navy, this is a direct wrecking.
            Missiles, and the nuclear shield of the USSR as a whole, this is his doing
            Seriously? The work of his hands? Yes, you are simply ignorant ... Read books, maybe your mind will increase ... The atomic bomb was created under Stalin in 1949, the first satellite was launched in 1957, 4 years after Stalin's death, and the work on the development of ICBMs with the help of which the satellite was launched, they were launched back in 1946, even under Stalin under the leadership of the Korolev, maybe they heard that name? It is to your passage that
            The incompetent Dzhugashvili paid almost no attention to missiles, he made bombers.
            And the whole industry of mass housing construction, the foundation of all these "khrushchebs" was also laid under Stalin, Khrushchev only took advantage of it. What can you do
            every day they should go to Khrushchev’s grave and wear flowers there
            so this is for the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine, its "epic" act still hiccups to millions of people ...
            So do not show your deep "historical" knowledge, do not disgrace ...
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            even under Stalin under the leadership of the Korolev, maybe they heard that name? It is to your passage that
            Is it for sabotage under Stalin that both jaws broke?
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          and by the way, our consumer goods (washing machines, refrigerators, etc.) have served for decades and not just for three years now ..
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          and by the way, our consumer goods (washing machines, refrigerators, etc.) have served for decades and not just for three years now ..
          -After 2 world crises (1998 and 2008) everyone began to do things with a short term of use, ALL, the whole world
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    The USSR was a country on which all working humanity looked with hope and which all non-working people hated.
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      The USSR was a country on which all working humanity looked with hope and which all non-working people hated.

      Humanity sneezed, what worked, what rested, wanted in the USSR. The USSR was needed only by such odious personalities as Kim and Castro.
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    No one needed?
    Do you even know that motorcycles with a stroller "Ural" are still exported to all countries of the world. They are bought by the USA, Germany, Japan, China, Australia, Canada and other countries. Yes, and in Soviet times, a lot of things went for export. This is electricity, mineral fertilizers, engineering products, cotton fabrics, etc.
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    The only way out was to create a new society, state and civilization based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix code, that is, social justice and the ethics of conscience. This is the essence of the phenomenon of Stalin and the new wave of his popularity in modern Russia. - from article

    This exit of social justice and ethics of conscience - socialism for Russia and Russian civilization is now the only option for development!
    The current liberal government, represented by the incumbent President Putin, does not consider the possibility of restoring socialism and social justice for the people in Russia to be real, as Putin announced at the last conference on December 20, 2018.

    But in vain. The whole history of Russia claims that a socially unjust Russia is unacceptable for the people, and inevitably power in such a state will be removed from government. The whole question is whether it will be produced peacefully or armed. I would like to be peaceful without violence and blood.
    We already have examples of a peaceful transition of power from liberals to parties and social justice movements: Communist governors are elected in the Irkutsk, Orel regions, Khakassia, and Novosibirsk.
    The peace transition movement is growing, the liberal party of United Russia everywhere is losing more or less fair elections, more and more resorting to direct falsification of the elections, to their cancellation. There is an open violation of all the rules of democratic elections, which was especially pronounced in Primorye.

    The power of the capitalists - the oligarchs, bourgeois officials does not want to give up their positions, more and more intensifying the oppression of the people and the plunder of the state, and thereby inevitably exacerbating social and political tension in Russia. It deprives people of basic social rights to pensions, healthcare, education, and providing a more or less tolerable standard of living.
    The pension "reform" approved by Putin is in fact a direct genocide of the people - people aged 50-70 years are actually left without work in the conditions of the collapse of industry and agriculture, and therefore earnings, and now the pension, which was attributed to a later date. The announced retirement period of 60 - 65 years for women and men, in the conditions for many of them being unable to earn seniority (notorious points), transfers people to receive a social pension, which is assigned at 68 - 70 years, respectively. How many people will be able to live up to that age and receive a pension with poor-quality food products, a paid healthcare system, in harsh climatic conditions? Tens of millions will not survive.

    The question of a change of liberal capitalist power in Russia in such conditions of social and political crises is a question of the near future. It is up to people to finally realize that oligarchic capitalism and their power only bring poverty, death and destruction to Russia to the people.
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      Socialism for Russia and Russian civilization is now the only option for development!

      The Bolsheviks began by cutting or squeezing out almost all of the Russians abroad. And now the full-time praise of the Bolsheviks recommend that modern Russians follow the ideas of their most fierce (and now only ideological) enemies, the Bolsheviks.
      It’s just not getting into any gates. Such impudence and cynicism can be expected, probably, only from this public. You will not find others like that.
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        The Bolsheviks began by cutting or squeezing out almost all of the Russians abroad.

        Indeed, one more Nerus remained, not squeezed out by the Bolsheviks.
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    Especially large “breakthrough” was made by post-socialist Ukraine.
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    for now we are only fed with promises of "breakthroughs" and "ups" ..
    Andrey Yuryevich, yesterday, at the press conference of our president, I was personally impressed by two topics. The first thing that ends, you need to prepare a new breakthrough, as was the case of Peter I and Stalin. The second is that our president does not see the possibility of the return of socialism to Russia. In a new “breakthrough,” it turns out, everyone who survived, as they could in the dashing 90, who had to go through all the “optimization” and “unification,” fool around, relaxed ... Having received a superpower new “bourgeois” eaten up Soviet reserves , many enterprises, KB, scientific research institutes were destroyed, and now we need to be able to jump out of our pants high, being under the master of world capitalism, being in a foreign system, a foreign pole. Apparently, they decided to build a "parallel capitalism". We do not have colonies, which means that it is supposed to exploit our own people. About the impossibility of returning to socialism ... There are no former communists, if they were real communists, the idea is not a shirt, today is red, tomorrow is blue, the idea is forever. Without socialism, we will not be able to win, but not to survive. The Soviet margin of safety ends, and the oligarch frahters, like their "effective menager", are more interested in the fact that here and now brings a minute profit. What they laid in health care, education, science? Everywhere loot, it has already become the norm on television channels for children to collect money for an operation ... And what can we expect without socialism? The money of our powers that be lies in a foreign currency and foreign banks, all their treasures under the control of a potential adversary, and this is his "nursing hand" they will bite? It seems that the collapse of all these bad guys is inevitable and logical, these bad people will betray us, their country, at the first danger, and will not have time to betray, escape, so screwed up. After this, socialism will return.
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      Fraternity oligarchs, like their "effective menagers", are more interested in the fact that here and now they bring a momentary profit.

      I suppose that you underestimate these guys. Since the destruction of the Union, they are trying to merge with the world elite (for this they destroyed the USSR). And while the elite will be preparing outside the country (elite children are being prepared in the west) there will be no breakthroughs.
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    for now we are only fed with promises of "breakthroughs" and "ups" ..

    we have DIGITAL ECONOMY and therefore fed by NUMBERS laughing
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Stalin began to build the empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

    Today is 140 years since the birth of I.V. Stalin.

    how often we began to recall Joseph Vissarionovich ... because now they only feed us with promises of “breakthroughs” and “ups” ..

    The right person is not a sin to remember.
    And yes. He is a genius. He saved Russia from destruction. And he stopped the genocide of the Russian people that Zionofashists staged
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    Modern Russia needs Stalin .. otherwise Khan ..
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      Modern Russia needs Stalin .. otherwise Khan ..

      Hmm ... And what would conditional Stalin do in modern Russia, under feudal capitalism, when the country is ideologically not even in the time of the Ivano-Ascension strike of 1905, but somewhere in the time of Radishchev, when he traveled from Petersburg to Moscow? Probably, he would start organizing a Marxist reading group for Capital at some factory or factory.

      Do you want to know what minimum is needed for conditional Stalin to “shoot”?
      From 18 minutes:
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        A wonderful example of the propaganda of the 5th column. Thank you, Alexander, for this video. For "take everything away and share," Semin probably answers on our TV. A boy from a completely prosperous family whose father was a deputy of the Yekaterinburg Duma from 1994 to 2001 decided to become a revolutionary. In principle, this is not difficult - the main thing is to promise everything at once! And land and plants and freedom ... It already was. In 1917. Dali? For clarity, look at the Trotskyist speeches of the Maidan revolutionaries - word for word! Semin does not know what the Russian world is! Laughs at Stolypin’s thoughts about the greatness of Russia! Semin is a globalist naturally calling it internationalism. The word patriot is abusive to him. Here are his words - "... and Russian patriots are not far behind their international partners, they are also ready at the earliest opportunity to make happy those who still doubt whether Russia should become great again." For Semin, this is bad. Patriotism is bad, internationalism, globalism is good!
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          A wonderful example of the propaganda of the 5th column.

          It all depends on who you play. Are you for the exploiters?

          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          For "take everything away and share," Semin probably answers on our TV.

          They were taken from the people and divided among themselves by the oligarchs in the 90s. But Semin for taking away from the bourgeoisie and uniting for the people.

          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          A boy from a completely prosperous family whose father was a deputy of the Yekaterinburg Duma from 1994 to 2001 decided to become a revolutionary.

          Lenin was a nobleman at all, so what?

          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          In principle, this is not difficult - the main thing is to promise everything at once!

          I have never heard from Semin about "all at once." On the contrary, I heard. Do not confuse with anyone?

          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          Semin does not know what the Russian world is! Laughs at Stolypin’s thoughts

          Stolypin a century ago, people did not like. Probably did not know what the Russian world is.

          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          The word patriot is abusive to him.

          The biggest patriots are Chubais, Abramovich, and another gop company.
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            For the sake of objectivity .. need an IDEA. Which will unite and push each of us "not sparing our stomach" to do something. Otherwise, all to no avail. And we have a problem with ideological inspirers ... or the time has not come yet.
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              need an IDEA. Which will unite and move each of us "not sparing his stomach" to do something. Otherwise, all to no avail.

              There is no such idea. At least for today's Russia.

              Society is split into two camps. Some play or cheer for the bourgeois class of exploiters, others play or cheer for the proletarian class of the exploited. It would seem that there should be more second ones, because the proletarians in the country are under 90%. However, a considerable part of those who are severely exploited continue to drown for capitalism. Paradox, but true.

              Bourgeois and proletarian consciousness are antagonists, which to look for - they have opposite ideas. Is it possible to combine the plus and minus in a magnet? Is it possible to combine predators and herbivores? Is it possible to mix white with black? Both that, and another, and the third is possible, only good will fail.
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    Samsonov is so straightforward in his assessments ... There were enough people of monarchist views in the white movement. The white movement has found strong support among the people, otherwise why all the subsequent repressions were needed? The numerous uprisings that flare up against the Bolshevik authorities throughout the country, which have taken a truly massive character, also confirm this. The Tambov uprising had the character of a real war. Stalin certainly built a strong and one might say a great state, but at what cost, first of all, for the Russian people ?! Whose state was it? People who, following Samsonov, make a deity from Stalin refuse to look reality in the eye - the deity was often mistaken! Also often these errors were fatal and again the main price was paid by the Russians. If we don’t talk about repressions now, Stalin’s most important mistake was his ignoring the numerous information about the impending attack on the USSR by German troops. Richard Sorge indicated generally more than specific information - Stalin remained indifferent. Churchill said about the actions of the USSR leadership in that period that he had the full impression that Stalin did not even suspect Hitler’s long-made decision to destroy them ... Now many are talking about the "Non-aggression pact," which was most likely a forced measure. However, what then is the "Treaty of Friendship and Border between the USSR and Germany"? What kind of friendship? Especially after the general sending of communists and other opponents of Nazism to concentration camps? After the Anschluss of Austria and the capture of Czechoslovakia? Not to mention the fact that Stalin brought the war close to the borders of the USSR! Who paid for all this? Russian people - with blood!
    Bypassing again the repression itself, as this topic is a big one and requires a separate discussion, all the same I would like to ask a question - why did Stalin, for all his Stalinism, allow Trotsky to calmly leave the country? Did this not contribute to the flourishing of Trotskyism in the country with its magnificent color? And did not Trotskyism split the international communist movement, having played its part even in the defeat of the Communists in Spain? Further. Stalin's collectivization took property from the peasants and drove them into collective farms. For the country, this had global consequences in the future. Peasants were virtually destroyed as a class. And the last thing I would like to say now is the completely incomprehensible Stalinist personnel policy. The Bolshevik deity did not leave a successor after itself. Thanks to a completely painful suspicion, Stalin in all saw a threat to his sole power. Molotov was even criticized in which many saw the leader's successor ...
    1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 11: 25 New
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      Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
      . Richard Sorge indicated generally more than specific information - Stalin remained indifferent.

      Of directive number 1, you certainly have not heard anything.
      Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
      Churchill spoke about the actions of the leadership of the USSR at that time that there was a complete impression that Stalin did not even suspect Hitler's long-accepted decision to destroy them ..

      Interestingly, according to Churchill, it was necessary to do.
      Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
      Now many are talking about the Non-Aggression Pact, which was most likely a forced measure. However, what then is the "Treaty of Friendship and Border between the USSR and Germany"? What kind of friendship?

      The same Churchill had similar agreements from the 38th year.
      Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
      why did Stalin, with all his Stalinism, allow Trotsky to calmly leave the country?

      Mistake, yes. It was necessary to soak him right away, and not to let him out of the cordon, as one of our oligarch, who had been able to strangle himself with a scarf.
      Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
      Stalin's collectivization took property from the peasants and drove them into collective farms.

      The collective farm is voluntary. It was the locals who drove the masons, about which Stalin wrote in "Vertigo from Success".
      You cannot plant collective farms by force. That would be stupid and reactionary. The collective farm movement must rely on the active support of the bulk of the peasantry.
      1. Cheslav Tsursky 21 December 2018 12: 34 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Of directive number 1, you certainly have not heard anything.

        This is the one from June 21, 1941 ?! It’s funny. Good joke.
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        The collective farm is voluntary.

        Even funnier!
        So, as a result of these very miscalculations, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Red Army men and commanders heroically died! But those who did not die in these mistakes of the leader naturally and were accused by order of the reddest genius No. 270 and made more traitors to the homeland! Also, families of this category of Red Army fighters were repressed. The genius of red is not otherwise!
        1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 12: 42 New
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          Laugh on.
          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          But those who did not die in these mistakes of the leader naturally and were accused by order of the reddest genius No. 270 and made more traitors to the homeland! Also, families of this category of Red Army fighters were repressed. The genius of red is not otherwise!

          Is it possible to endure in the ranks of the Red Army cowards who desert to the enemy and surrender to him, or such cowardly bosses who, at the first hitch at the front, tear off the insignia and desert to the rear? No you can not! If these cowards and deserters are given free rein, they will in a short time decompose our army and ruin our Motherland. Cowards and deserters must be destroyed.
          1. Cheslav Tsursky 21 December 2018 12: 55 New
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            Yes, these are your jokes and they are not funny! Tragic for very, very many Russian families subjected to repression because their fathers, husbands, brothers perished in fascist captivity because of such mistakes made by the leader of the peoples and the red genius! What does your Samsonov call it there? Emperor of the Red Empire? Brahman shorter, etc.
            1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 12: 57 New
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              Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
              Tragic for very, very many Russian families subjected to repression because their fathers, husbands, brothers perished in fascist captivity because of such mistakes made by the leader of the peoples and the red genius!

              My grandfather was in captivity since 42 years. On release - a fine. No one has arrested his family.
              1. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 14: 36 New
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                Read the order carefully.
                1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 15: 18 New
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                  Read the link below carefully. Or find me the number of families of Red Army fighters arrested by this order.
                  1. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 15: 24 New
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                    You yourself will easily find the numbers of the repressed and specific surnames and individual cases. What does it mean, "find me?" Be more modest.
                    1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 15: 34 New
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                      Quote: Halado romance
                      What does it mean, "find me?" Be more modest.

                      It means that you will find hell to be arrested on this order. Almost all fell into the column "missing." Can you imagine what it means to arrest families of more than 4,5 million people, Palkin Petya?
                    2. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 15: 50 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Can you imagine what it means to arrest families of more than 4,5 million people, Palkin Petya?

                      Then I lied. Only the families of commanders and political workers were ordered. In general, look for the info yourself, I'm not the Information Bureau.
                      Quote: atos_kin
                      learn to look at different sources of information. Perhaps your ignorance will disappear.
                    3. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 20: 57 New
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                      Yes, no Mordvin. I will name it. Moreover, the name is known. General Ponedelin. He was personally enticed by Stalin in his vile order. Grigory Vasilievich, the father of the “enemy of the people,” was determined to be in the Kineshma prison, where he tragically ended his days. He was killed by criminals. He was not betrayed and did not betray his homeland, who was captured in hand-to-hand combat and knowing that he was sentenced in absentia to execution in absentia, did not go to serve the Americans but returned to his homeland, for which he was shot, could the leader admit his mistakes? I also inform you that after the war hero generals such as Artemenko, Kirillov, Beleshev, Krupennikov, Sivaev, and brigade commander Lazutin were shot ... Stalin did not need witnesses to his mediocrity! You probably horror how you want to return those times? Interrupt!
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                      The most important witnesses are Zhukov, Rokossovsky, Vasilevsky, Timoshenko, Govorov, Konev, Malinovsky, Kuznetsov, Golovanov, Eremenko, Chuykov, Gorbatov, Bagramyan, Antonov, Tolbukhin, Rotmistrov, Meretskov, Rybalko, Shaposhnikov, Kazakov, Novikov and thousands of others.
          2. Free man 21 December 2018 20: 07 New
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            My grandfather was in captivity since 42 years. On release - a fine. No one has arrested his family

            My great-grandfather served from 37 to 47 years old .... He died in 1978. He always said - Stalin did the right thing, it was impossible otherwise, otherwise there would have been a mess at all. For what he served, he himself was to blame, there was nothing to grind with his tongue with anyone
      2. Cheslav Tsursky 21 December 2018 13: 12 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Is it possible to endure in the ranks of the Red Army cowards who desert to the enemy and surrender to him, or such cowardly bosses who, at the first hitch at the front, tear off the insignia and desert to the rear? No you can not! If these cowards and deserters are given free rein, they will in a short time decompose our army and ruin our Motherland. Cowards and deserters must be destroyed.

        The number of prisoners in terms of exact numbers is still not known! Different sources cite figures from 2.5 to 4 million Soviet prisoners of war during the 1941 war. Are there not too many cowards and alarmists for an army of soldiers which will pass through all of Europe and take Berlin, and then also expose the Kwantung Japanese army ?! How many of these guys got out of encirclement with fights? Ghibli captured in German dungeons? How many more of their remains are found and will still be found by search squads in our forests and fields ... Almost the entire personnel Red Army heroically died or was captured due to such "ingenious mistakes". And according to 270 orders, a huge part of her turned out to be cowards? Because of such absolutely wild blasphemy, such a disdainful attitude towards their own people by the bones laid for our Motherland, the Stalinists have no future whatsoever!
        1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 13: 19 New
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          There was already an analysis of order number 270
          According to official figures, more than 90% of all those released before the end of World War II, after a brief inspection in special filtration camps under the supervision of the NKVD and military counterintelligence, returned safely to their previous service and life.

          https://topwar.ru/31997-o-prikaze-270.html
          1. Cheslav Tsursky 21 December 2018 13: 26 New
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            Thank. I can imagine how you personally understood ...
            1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 13: 31 New
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              Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
              I can imagine how you personally understood ...

              I gave you a link. Is it hard to read? Not imagining anything there.
              1. atos_kin 21 December 2018 13: 59 New
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                Do not feed the troll. There is no point in arguing with him; he does not know how to think.
                1. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 14: 39 New
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                  And that this "troll" did not write correctly about the order 270 of your deity and about the fact that due to his mistakes almost the entire personnel Red Army was killed? Nothing to answer? Well, why should one insult a person because of his own ignorance? Read the order carefully and apologize for your insults!
                2. atos_kin 21 December 2018 15: 35 New
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                  Quote: Halado romance
                  practically the entire personnel Red Army died? Nothing to answer?

                  My grandfather answered, signing the Reichstag.
                  In addition to the ability to read, write and repeat other people's conclusions, learn to look into different sources of information. Perhaps your ignorance will disappear. I’m like a former anti-Stalinist.
                3. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 16: 34 New
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                  You know, I also have family experience. And I have something to lean on. You are rude here, give people ratings. This is not a beautiful behavior. Teach your wife the mind.
                4. atos_kin 21 December 2018 16: 40 New
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                  Quote: Halado romance
                  This is not a beautiful behavior. Teach your wife the mind.

                  Say it in front of the mirror. More benefit will be.
                5. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 16: 59 New
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                  Especially for you and Mordvin found absolutely easy. All information is freely available. GKO # 1926ss dated June 24, 1942 "On family members of traitors to the motherland", Directive of the head of the main department of the military tribunals # 003486 October 26, 1942, ... in order to accelerate the repression of families of traitors and deserters ..., Code # 4976 28 September 1941 sent by the commander of the Leningrad Front to the Zhukov Front Armies and the Baltic Fleet On executions of surrendered prisoners and repressions against families ... Read and enjoy. A mass of similar materials was published! At the same time, the Stalinist leadership did not give a damn that it was their fault that the Red Army and Red Army commanders fought the enemy heroically and, until the last patron, passing into hand-to-hand combat. The vast majority of them remained faithful to their homeland to the end.
                6. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 20: 57 New
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                  Quote: Halado romance
                  Especially for you and Mordvin found absolutely easy. All information is freely available. GKO # 1926ss dated June 24, 1942 "On family members of traitors to the motherland", Directive of the head of the main department of the military tribunals # 003486 October 26, 1942, ... in order to accelerate the repression of families of traitors and deserters ..., Code # 4976 28 September 1941, sent by the commander of the Leningrad Front to the Zhukov Front Armies and the Baltic Fleet On executions of surrendered prisoners and repressions against families ...

                  I asked you to find the number of convicted relatives of officers of the Red Army by order No. 270, and not a cipher program with a directive.
                7. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 21: 04 New
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                  And you yourself will carry out such work. I do not like the Memorial society, but they have data on the names of thousands of repressed. Take an interest. I brought you the father of General Ponedelin. For one of him and his son, you can begin to repent for your blasphemous chatter. After the war, Stalin killed many hero generals. Have a look. Ask what happened to their family. Do something good in life. I hope you count. It is not Stalin who will judge you, thank God.
                8. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 21: 27 New
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                  Reading now about all this Stalinist lawlessness, I think, Mordvin, what a good time we live in! Difficult but good. I imagine that your god would do with you, write in his time at least a thousandth of the filth that you write about power here !!! And so you are safe and your relatives may not even suspect your work. It is easy to fight the regime like that for Stalin completely impersonal and under a pseudonym. I wish your relatives good health, Mordvin. May something similar to the 270 order, decrees of T-bills and other SHT pass by in their life!
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                  Quote: Halado romance
                  I brought you the father of General Ponedelin. For one of him and his son, you can begin to repent for your blasphemous chatter.

                  I will not, I'm an atheist. Say that in vain the photos of Ponedelin were printed on German leaflets? Will we do a debriefing of the actions of the 12th army?
                  Quote: Halado romance
                  Do something good in life. I hope you count.

                  I’ll definitely not “shoe” anyone, don’t worry. Although the gypsies "shook" me a couple of times.
                10. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 21: 39 New
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                  And further. about families. Personally, I believe that this is a bust, to judge the families of traitors. Nonetheless ... Someone poisoned Skripal's daughter.
          2. ruigat 22 December 2018 08: 16 New
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            The vast majority of them remained faithful to their homeland to the end.

            Well, you’re either our 2-store one or Russia’s faithful to the end, supporting the economy of the Russophobic fascist state of Lithuania.
  • Per se. 21 December 2018 13: 16 New
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    Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
    The White movement found strong support and in the people otherwise why were all subsequent reprisals necessary?
    Interestingly you turn, and there was no white terror and repression from whites, from the fact that the "white" and "fluffy"? Well, let's say, there were no Bolsheviks, 1917 came the year, Nicholas II, abdicates the throne, moreover, under the pressure of his own inner circle. The February Revolution is taking place, the Provisional Government is in power, the proposed changes are the strengthening of the influence of the West. Simply put, we get Yeltsin, Chubais and Gaidar not in the 1991 year, with the space and nuclear superpower, but in 1917, in a semi-literate, weakened by a war country with a Western-dependent economy, and with debts on loans. And do not be hypocrisy with demagogy, in this scenario, and without the Civil War, Russia would have come to an end, it would have been broken into pieces. Actually, the First World War was designed to determine the leader and master of the world capitalist system. It was not for this that the German, Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman and Russian empires collapsed, so that pro-Western Russia remained a potential threat to the Anglo-Saxons, that Russia would be helped, allowed to rise. That's the whole story. Only the emergence of an independent social system allowed Russia not only to survive, but to become a superpower, and this is the merit of the communists and socialism. Without the return of socialism, and the current Russian bourgeoisie did not have a long time left, the Soviet margin of safety would end, and they no longer have to inflate their cheeks, and their own, they did not give birth to a superpower to revive, and could not give birth, being dependent on those their money, being tied by someone else's rules, is not invented for the good of Russia.
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      Quote: Per se.
      and there was no white terror and repression from the whites, from the fact that the "whites" and the "fluffy"?

      "White" did not exist. This is a later notion from the time of Dzhugashvili. At the same time, VOSR was invented and much more.
      The Bolsheviks, their Red Army, fought in the Russian territory in Russia. With the Russian Volunteer Army. And they defeated the Russians.
      Why did Russians lose in Russia?
      Because in Russia there have always been not many Russians. And they didn’t have enough strength against the cunning crooks-Bolsheviks and the greedy “population”.
      The "population" then the Bolsheviks then nobly shod.
      But the Russians (those who did not have time or did not want to dump abroad) then the Bolsheviks purposefully cut out. Someone, of course, survived. But there were very few of them.
      Quote: Per se.
      Russia would come to an end, it would fall apart

      That which should not fall apart will never fall apart. And if it falls apart, then it will come together
      And vice versa. That which should fall apart sooner or later will surely fall apart.
      1. victor50 21 December 2018 14: 35 New
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        Quote: tyyt
        "White" did not exist.

        Quote: tyyt
        That which should not fall apart will never fall apart. And if it falls apart, then it will come together

        New historical philosopher! He will reveal the truth to us! We have been waiting for him for so long !!! lol
        1. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 16: 35 New
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          Who are you? On whose behalf are you speaking?
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            And about the same as who wrote yesterday at 21 "... and therefore we will try very hard to prevent this from happening. I give you my word of honor wholeheartedly! ..." (c) - :-)
    2. Cheslav Tsursky 21 December 2018 13: 33 New
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      About furry, I did not say anything. Of course, no official terror was carried out by whites. In war there is always a place of cruelty on both sides. However, at the state level, the Soviets proclaimed terror! This was their official policy. Everything that you wrote in the future completely fits into the averaged left propaganda. Apparently, in order to make Russia great, the Germans sent Lenin to us with comrades in a sealed train car, and Trotsky’s Americans with a team on a steamboat ... And of course, in order to build socialism, the Bolsheviks had to (they cried and shot) shoot, repress, collectivize, exile, talk and dispossess ... millions of Russian people!
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        Apparently, in order to make Russia great, the Germans sent Lenin to us with comrades in a sealed carriage, and Trotsky's Americans with a team on the ship

        Well, Kolchak and Wrangel certainly the Russian people chose the Entente, of course, nothing to do with it. But Krasnov and Skoropadsky generally hated the Germans.
      2. Alber 24 December 2018 23: 08 New
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        Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
        Bolsheviks had to build socialism (they cried and shot) to shoot, repress, collectivize, exile, talk and dispossess ... millions of Russian people

        These are all Zionofashists Sverdlovs, Trotsky, Zemlyachki-Zalkindy, KhAI Frumkiny, Bela-Kuny and other scum
    3. Halado Romane 21 December 2018 21: 30 New
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      Cheslav told you the truth, but you and your socialism have already hesitated completely. Russia is unlikely to survive your experiments this time, and therefore we will try very hard to prevent this from happening. I give you my word of honor with all my heart!
      1. ruigat 22 December 2018 08: 25 New
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        Russia is unlikely to survive your experiments this time, and therefore we will try very hard to prevent this from happening.

        A past experiment led Russia to unprecedented power in history, so that Russia will not only survive it, but it is now absolutely necessary for it. Of course, the lackeys of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and their owners will try to prevent this from happening.
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    Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
    The Tambov uprising had the character of a real war

    The Tambov uprising was generally ideological — not to pay taxes, so the whites were sent, and 7 thousand red completely opposed 30 thousand tax evaders (at the peak of the 10 thousand red against 50 thousand) tax evaders. And as soon as the state got the power they began to pay as nice and not they squeaked.
    Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
    White movement found strong support

    At first it was until the population began to flog, burn and hang. (As an example, Pskov, Izhevsk)
    Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
    subsequent repression

    Googling Defarming in the USA-Stalin with his repressions looks unconvincing.
    Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
    Stalin’s most important mistake was his ignoring of numerous information about the impending attack on the USSR by German troops.

    I wonder what would you do in that setting?
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    Stalin's collectivization took property from the peasants and drove them into collective farms.

    And in what developed country did the peasants remain?
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    1. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 11: 34 New
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      Photo of a German concentration camp.
      1. Sergej1972 21 December 2018 17: 41 New
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        In my opinion, still Finnish.
        1. naidas 21 December 2018 20: 59 New
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          Concentration camp in Petrozavodsk. The picture was taken in 1944. Photo: fotokto.ru - "Republic"
    2. Claymore 21 December 2018 11: 36 New
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      Quote: 777-3-59-97
      Thanks to comrade Stalin for our happy childhood

      You cut off the photo for what purpose?

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        Quote: Claymore
        Quote: 777-3-59-97
        Thanks to comrade Stalin for our happy childhood

        You cut off the photo for what purpose?

        Yeah. The troll got greasy and lazy. If only I looked into the "wiki".


        Description: "Prisoners of Fascism" (the author's name of the photo).
        Soviet children-prisoners of the 6th camp in Petrozavodsk, 1944.
        The picture was presented as part of the evidence at the Nuremberg trial of war criminals.
        Creation Time: June 1944
        Author: Galina Sanko
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Файл:Fin_Con_camp.jpg
        1. 210ox 21 December 2018 19: 38 New
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          What do we want with the feeding up of pseudo-Leninists, Alekseevs and the like ..
  • letinant 21 December 2018 12: 23 New
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    In Solovyov’s program, Y. Kedmi said the right words about the Stalin phenomenon: “Stalin“ lived the USSR, ”when he died, his entire inheritance amounted to him. after the war ".
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      You also forgot the state of Israel. Although the Jews deceived the brilliant leader of the peoples, he is rightfully the father of this state. Of course, we will not discuss the consequences of this creation ... Jacob Kedmi is simply a grateful and decent person. Hebrews Stalin made a truly invaluable gift.
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        I completely agree with you.
  • To be or not to be 21 December 2018 17: 30 New
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    And DR Rokossovsky
    Marshal of the Soviet Union, Marshal of Poland, and also the outstanding strategic mind of the 21th century - Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokossovsky was born on December 1896, XNUMX in Warsaw
  • Alex Vladimirov 26 December 2018 21: 31 New
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    The article is a set of mythological cliches that are just as harmful to the present case as the modern propaganda of the fascists. (Fascism is the power of the most nationalist-minded, most reactionary part of financial capital. In domestic politics, solidarism, pseudo-patriotism, in foreign politics - the inhumanization of representatives of other nations and peoples, their merciless exploitation and physical destruction).

    Stalin is not an emperor. The USSR is not an empire. Learn the story.
  • parusnik 21 December 2018 06: 33 New
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    After the death of I. Ilf and the tragic death of E. Petrov, 12 chairs and the Golden Calf were not republished .... In 12 chairs, an interesting moment in 1927, citizens calmly travel along the Georgian Military Highway, painting beauty with all kinds of inscriptions ... This is in 10 years after the revolutions and the civil war ... I remember the tear-off calendars ... on the sheet on December 21 it was noted that on that day I.V. Stalin was born with a portrait of course ... and on the sheet on December 30 the USSR emblem and a reminder that this day the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was created .. It was mountains spine and regret, why not the output that would not go to school ... smile Moreover, it's still 31 New Years ...
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      In 12 chairs an interesting moment of 1927 year, citizens calmly travel along the Georgian Military Highway, painting the beauties with all kinds of inscriptions
      -There are nuances: Koreans could quite drive there and went ....
      the owner of the Odessa Public Artel - Moscow Bagels was milked several times by Ostap (in "12 chairs") in the South
      And in Esentuki, and the Cavminvodvod ... there were many wealthy people in the country, many ...
      By the way, a demonstration book - you just need to carefully read it. However, this is about all the books ...

      Z.Y. I re-read "Raised virgin soil" at an age and still could not understand how this anti-Soviet was missed in the USSR (moreover, it was repeatedly reprinted !!)
      1. Avior 21 December 2018 10: 26 New
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        Did you notice that in Soviet times and later the book is perceived differently?
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          Quote: Avior
          Did you notice that in Soviet times and later the book is perceived differently?
          -naturally + age of reading (life experience)
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            this by itself, but also additional information that changes the attitude to the written, reveals its various nuances, understandable to Sholokhov himself, but not very clear to a person of the 70-80s ..
      2. parusnik 21 December 2018 12: 40 New
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        They staged performances, radio shows, literary readings on the radio and a film was made ...
  • Phil77 21 December 2018 06: 40 New
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    A phenomenon? There is a Great Person-Stalin! A true statesman, not a couple of the current politicians bashfully calling themselves!
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      The one who worked without thinking about the benefits for himself, which is what he demanded from his environment. This is not a phenomenon. For those people, this was the norm.
      1. 210ox 21 December 2018 08: 40 New
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        Of course, there is no phenomenon. There is efficiency, integrity, perseverance.
        1. solzh 21 December 2018 09: 46 New
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          Quote: 210ox
          There is performance, integrity, perseverance.

          As well as determination and faith, faith in the people and the desire for national well-being and prosperity of the country and citizens!
        2. Claymore 21 December 2018 09: 49 New
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          Of course, there is no phenomenon. There is efficiency, integrity, perseverance.

          A goal that meets the interests of the working classes.
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        The one who worked himself not thinking about benefits for yourself , which is what I demanded from my environment. This is not a phenomenon. those people it was the norm.
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        I speak Slogans - there is always a risk of tripping over TRUTH(well, she doesn’t want to cram into Slogansdoes not want !!) ......
        "his environment" IV Stalin and their understanding "norms":
        Marshal Zhukov
        "As a result of the search, it was discovered that two rooms of the summer house were turned into a warehouse where huge the amount of various kinds of goods and values.
        For example:
        woolen fabrics, silk, brocade, panne velvet and other materials - total over 4 000 meters (4 Kilometers !!!!!);
        furs - sable, monkey, fox, fur seals, astrakhan, astrakhan - all 323 skins;
        top chevro - 35 leather;
        expensive carpets and tapestries of large sizes, taken out of Potsdam and other palaces and houses in Germany - all 44 pieces, some of which are laid out and hung around the rooms, and the rest are in the warehouse; especially noticeable is the large size of the carpet, laid out in one of the rooms of the cottage;
        valuable paintings of classical painting of large sizes in the artistic framework - only 55 pieces, hung in the rooms of the cottage and partially stored in the warehouse;
        expensive dinnerware and tea-ware sets (porcelain with artistic decoration, crystal) - 7 large drawers;
        silver cutlery and tea sets - 2 drawer;
        richly decorated accordions - 8 pieces;
        unique hunting rifles of the Goland-Goland company and others - only 20 pieces. "- kilometers of fabrics and silver utensils not piece by piece - but by drawers

        General Kryukov
        "On February 5 of 1949, he shocked her with such news that she barely recovered.
        - An additional search in a special cache in the kitchen under the stove in the apartment of your former nanny Egorova, who lives in Petrovka, 26, seized your property Xnumx diamonds and, in addition, emeralds, sapphires, rubies, pearls, platinum, gold and silver products. Why did you still hide that you possess such great values?
        - I was sorry ... I was sorry to lose these diamonds. After all, I gave them all the last years to acquire! As soon as I heard from the bottom of my ear that a rare ring, pendant or earrings were being sold somewhere, I did not hesitate to buy them so that ... so that there would be more and more diamonds.
        - And where did you get the money?
        - I made good money by playing Russian songs. Especially during the war, when the "left" concerts became much more. And I began to buy diamonds and other values ​​from the 1930 of the year and, I confess, I did it not without excitement.
        - With no less excitement, you also acquired paintings by collecting a collection of 132 paintings, whose place is in the Tretyakov Gallery.
        “I will not deny that I devoted myself to the acquisition of artistic canvases with all the passion."
        The Kryukov-Ruslanov family had two dachas, three apartments, four cars, antique furniture, many kilometers of fabrics, hundreds of astrakhan and sable skins, pianos, accordions, radios, rare services and ... 4 paintings by Nesterov, 5 - Kustodieva, 7 - Makovsky, 5 - Shishkina, 4 - Repin, 3 - Polenova, 2 - Malyavina, 3 - Vrubel, 2 - Somova, 3 - Vereshchagin, 1 - Vasnetsov, 1, Alynazovsky, Alynazovsky, Alynazovskiy, Myasoedov, Tropinin, Yuon, Levitan, Kramskoy, Bryullov and other world famous thin burners. "

        Z.Y. I do not belittle the role of Zhukov in the Victory, I completely agree that these are trophies and he, as a commander, deserved them
        Just throwing Slogans leads to the emergence of new conventional “Rezuns” - which will have nothing to oppose. And soon 30 years - how we can not wash ourselves from the dirt that he dumped on us, simply because in the days of the USSR everyone modestly hushed up everything unpleasant about the Great Patriotic War
        1. Ivan Tartugai 21 December 2018 15: 16 New
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          Quote: your1970
          Z.Y. I do not belittle the role of Zhukov in the Victory, I completely agree that these are trophies and he, as a commander, deserved them

          Trophies such as 4 thousand. meters of fabric, hundreds of skins, dozens of paintings, hundreds of gold items, dozens of gold watches, six concert accordions - shameful trophies for the marshal.
          They are conquered primarily by a simple soldierwho bore the brunt of the war on his shoulders. A simple soldier who fought on the sidelines of human capabilities, suffered from wounds, died on the battlefield, in hospitals, in captivity. This is primarily his trophies, and not Marshal Zhukov.
          Trophies conquered by women, the elderly, adolescents in the rear, who also worked in the aisle of human forces in the field, in factories, even went down into the lava of mines underground to replace their husbands and brothers who went to the front. Who lived in the most difficult conditions, eating somehow on cards, dressing and shoeing somehow, but they uninterruptedly supplied the army with first-class weapons, good-quality clothes, shoes, and food.
          Zhukov himself was provided during the war at 100%, and his family with his mistresses at 100%, did not starve, did not live in barracks, dugouts, did not work at machine tools, in the fields, underground in lavas. They didn’t work at all, no where.
          Therefore, Zhukov could have been more modest, rather than grabbing trophies for free to the eyeballs.
          I had to see, but what I had to see, Zhukov saw that the whole country was in ruins, he saw that thousands of villages were burned, he saw tens of thousands of children left without parents, he saw that tens of millions of people became disabled, crippled by the war, millions people died in general.
          Against this background, against the background of life in dugouts, against the background of women, old people, children dressed in horrible clothes, against the background of half-starving hero of the Soviet Union, Marshal of the Soviet Union Zhukov with four thousand meters of fabric, with hundreds of fur skins, with six concert accordions , with three dozen gold watches, paintings, porcelain, crystal looks like a huckster.
          Zhukov is not the environment of Stalin IV.
          1. Egoza 21 December 2018 16: 29 New
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            Quote: Ivan Tartugay
            Zhukov is not the environment of Stalin IV.

            Well, for all this, Zhukov was sent .... to the Odessa district. And Ruslanov was jailed for speculation. But then both became "victims".
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            Quote: Ivan Tartugay
            Zhukov not Stalin's environment IV.
            "Are you embarrassed to ask who then you belong to Stalin’s circle? Posrebysheva / Vlasik and all? If this circle is so narrow, then what difference does it make that he inspired a couple of people not to care
            Quote: Vladivostok1969
            about the benefits for themselves, which is what I demanded from my environment. This is not a phenomenon. For those people, this was the norm.
  • Mcar 21 December 2018 06: 43 New
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    It began in 1927 grain crisis. Cities with their outdated, weak industry could not provide the village with all the necessary goods. The village refuses to sell bread. We have to re-enter food cards. The village is on the verge of a new peasant war and famine.

    Not for the sake of truth, but for the truth. It was not the village that refused to sell bread, but the fist - a rural moneylender, a world-eater.

    By the end of the 20s, thanks to the NEP, a situation arose in the village, which was the situation before the revolution - land was again and again lacking. Put on a feeder allowed to pay tax and barely meagerly soak. Sometimes it was not enough. It got to the point that the peasants, as in the best traditions of Westerns, stopped trains and robbed them. In order to pay tax and not starve to death.
    Against the background of such rural poverty, the class of the rural bourgeoisie — the kulak — very quickly stood out. Everything was given in growth - bread, seeds, stock, draft power, money. The interest was predatory - in the spring you take a bag of grain, in the fall give two. Or even half the crop. For non-payment of land the land allotment was squeezed out. And so it was - from the neighbor on the right for the debts took the land, and the neighbor on the left for the debts processed it. Thus, the commodity grain was in the hands of a fist.

    A fist, not a village, did not want to sell bread to the state at a fixed price in 1927. The poor man was just handing over bread, and holding his fist until better times. “Better times”, according to the kulaks, is when people in cities naturally die of starvation - then the price can be broken down like in the besieged Leningrad. Nothing personal just business.

    So collectivization was prepared by the fist throughout the 20s. Just like the present bourgeoisie, it is carefully preparing the revolution. Pension reform was one of the ingredients. There are still a lot of similar spices.

    It is a great happiness both for the country and for the peoples of Russia, that at that dashing time Stalin was at the helm of the country. It is still unknown how everything would have unfolded if it had happened otherwise.
    1. Uncle lee 21 December 2018 07: 25 New
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      Quote: McAr
      collectivization all the 20s was preparing a fist

      My father-in-law told me that it was so. And if it were not for the collective farms, the country could go on the spree without bread.
  • Conductor 21 December 2018 06: 43 New
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    Putin, the lower rank, who stole general's boots (s)
  • Nonna 21 December 2018 06: 46 New
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    How the USSR was restored after the war. "Stalin's miracle"

    Stalin raised the country 10 years after the war.
    The restoration of the USSR after the war is also called the "Stalin economic miracle." Cities were rebuilt anew, prices decreased annually, workers had the opportunity to earn money and take an apartment on a mortgage at 1 percent per annum. With zero inflation ..

    The Soviet Union suffered the most severe losses in the Great Patriotic War. It was wiped out 1710 cities, 70 thousand villages and villages, 32 thousand industrial enterprises, 65 thousand kilometers of railways, 98 thousand collective farms and 2890 machine and tractor stations. Direct damage to the Soviet economy amounted to 679 billion rubles (comparable to the total capital investments of the USSR for the first four five-year periods). The total damage, including the costs of reconstruction of factories and the conduct of war, is estimated by economists at 2 trillion. 596 billion rubles And this despite the fact that the budget revenues of the USSR in the 1940th amounted to 180 billion rubles. The national economy, metallurgy, and agriculture were thrown back 10 years ago, to levels as far back as the 1930s.

    THIS IS HOW TO WORK
    1. You Vlad 21 December 2018 07: 11 New
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      THIS IS HOW TO WORK

      Well, for the sake of truth, it is necessary to clarify that it was unlikely that without the Germans and Americans, Stalin could carry out industrialization! Here, somehow it did without sanctions.
      1. solzh 21 December 2018 09: 31 New
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        Quote: you Vlad
        Here somehow it did without sanctions.

        Well, we were without sanctions until 2014, and there was no breakthrough in the economy ...
      2. Claymore 21 December 2018 09: 54 New
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        Quote: you Vlad
        Well, for the sake of truth, it is necessary to clarify that it is unlikely that without the Germans and Americans, Stalin could carry out industrialization!

        For the sake of truth, it must be clarified that with industrialization it was not ethnic groups and nations that helped, but foreign workers with engineers.
      3. Mordvin 3 21 December 2018 09: 56 New
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        Quote: you Vlad
        It is unlikely that without the Germans and the Americans, Stalin would be able to carry out industrialization! Here, somehow it did without sanctions.

        Pay the money, everyone will help vividly. And they won’t look at the sanctions. Only ours do not need it. They are waiting for investors and chatting about 25 million jobs where future pensioners should be planted.
        1. your1970 21 December 2018 13: 14 New
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          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Pay the money, everyone will help vividly. And they won’t look at the sanctions. Only ours do not need it.
          - Siemens was paid ... And where is Siemens now ??
          Or did you have to pay 5-10 times more ??
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            Quote: your1970
            - Siemens was paid ... And where is Siemens now ??
            Or did you have to pay 5-10 times more ??

            Maybe so, if necessary! And better - you didn’t have to ruin your own!
          2. naidas 21 December 2018 21: 11 New
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            Siemens so in Russia and works:
            December 19, 2018 The first power unit of the Grozny TPP turbine of E- and F-class was commissioned. Siemens Transformers delivered five power transformers. In addition, new HB3-80 kA generator modules manufactured by Siemens were used at the facility.
            Installation supervision and commissioning works were carried out by Siemens Gas Turbine Technologies LLC specialists.
            December 14, 2018 Siemens increases the capacity of the substation Yoshkar-Ola TPP-1
            December 06, 2018, Energoservice of the North-West and Siemens signed a cooperation agreement.
            1. your1970 22 December 2018 12: 21 New
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              and Where are Siemens with turbines in Crimea? there are now looking BOOtire turbines belay
              no need to crush - it's a bit BEFORE it was necessary
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                June 27th, 9: 18


                Everyone had already forgotten how the turbines got to the Crimea and how Siemens rebelled because of this and was going to almost leave all the projects in Russia and sue everything back. But ... in this situation, the main thing is to make a formidable face and puff out cheeks for American partners. And then you can work as you worked ...

                A Taurian TPP near the Crimean capital supplied the first megawatts to the power system. The first unit produced 45 megawatts of electricity.

                The government decided to support Power Machines with a project to create high-power turbines in our country. And Siemens completely transferred the production of turbine blades to Russia.
  • rotmistr60 21 December 2018 06: 51 New
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    A good article that gives some people the opportunity to analyze historical events based on the realities of that time, and not myths created by Russian liberals who hate everything Soviet.
  • Alex66 21 December 2018 06: 59 New
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    Unlike Stalin, Putin rolled back to capitalism, and some republics of the USSR rolled back even further to feudalism and the tribal system. On this basis, all Putin’s words about the breakthrough sound absurd, it’s populism or distraction from the process of exporting resources from Russia. We are constantly told that the USSR was backward, while raising prices for everything, robbing the poorest in the first place. They say that we don’t have money, we need to save on the old people, but how could everything be enough in the USSR, Russia pulled on a dozen more republics, built housing, sanatoriums, factories, paid salaries, just imagine these costs. Now everyone has shifted to us, where is the money? In the Fed, on the islands or stupid isn’t it not for people?
  • Jerk 21 December 2018 07: 04 New
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    Hmm, but the situation is somewhat reminiscent.
    By the way, another 5 kopecks about Stalin. There is such a term - “spiral of revolutions”. If, quite simply, once started, the revolution follows one after another - until the dictator appears, and the more turns the spiral has made - the bloodier the dictator is, there are simply no other options.
  • kuz363 21 December 2018 07: 14 New
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    Glory to Comrade Stalin!
  • Nonna 21 December 2018 07: 15 New
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    The most voluminous description of the Soviet leader was Prime Minister of Great Britain W. Churchill in his speech on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of the birth of I.V. Stalin:
    “It was great happiness for Russia that during the years of difficult trials, Russia was headed by the genius and unshakable commander I.V. Stalin. He was an outstanding personality, impressing the cruel time of the period in which his whole life passed. Stalin was a man of extraordinary energy, erudition and unbending will, sharp, tough, merciless both in business and in conversation, which even I, raised in the English parliament, could not oppose. Stalin, above all, had a great sense of sarcasm and humor, as well as the ability to accurately express his thoughts. Stalin wrote speeches only himself, and gigantic power always sounded in his works. This power was so great in Stalin that it seemed unique among the leaders of all times and peoples. Stalin made the greatest impression on us. His influence on people was irresistible. When he entered the hall of the Yalta Conference, we all, as if on command, stood up and, strange thing, for some reason held our hands at the seams. He possessed a deep, devoid of any panic, logical and meaningful wisdom. Stalin was an unsurpassed master in finding in difficult moments the way out of the most hopeless situation. In the most difficult moments, as well as in moments of triumph, he was equally restrained, never succumbed to illusions. He was an unusually complex person. He created and subjugated a vast empire. It was a man who destroyed his enemy with his hands and made us, whom he openly called imperialists, rebel against the imperialists. Stalin was the greatest, unparalleled dictator in the world. He accepted Russia with a plow, and left it equipped with atomic weapons. No! No matter what they say about him, such stories and peoples do not forget. ”
    1. Free wind 21 December 2018 07: 58 New
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      Churchill did not say this, all the more so these days he did not leave home due to illness. And how could they get up if Roosevelt was paralyzed. Stalin is a great man, did a lot for the country. without staples, etc. But he was not emperor.
      1. Ptolemy Lag 21 December 2018 09: 26 New
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        Spoke. By the way, Hitler characterized Stalin very much in Mein Kampf, believing that the USSR was created only by the iron will of Joseph Vissarionovich !!!
        1. Mcar 21 December 2018 09: 38 New
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          Quote: Ptolemy Lag
          Spoke.

          I used to think so too. And, of course, it is a pity that Churchill did not say such a thing, because everything said is true. Most likely this is framed in one statement by different people about Stalin.

          Churchill about Stalin. To the source:
          https://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/1701527.html
    2. Anatol17 21 December 2018 08: 44 New
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      I wonder why on the Internet quotes are attributed mainly to Churchill, Bismarck and de Gaulle?
    3. Olgovich 21 December 2018 10: 02 New
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      Quote: Nonna
      He accepted Russia with a plow, and left it equipped with atomic weapons.

      As much as possible: Churchill never said this!
  • Anatol17 21 December 2018 07: 20 New
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    I read the title of the article and immediately began to search for the words “Russian superethnos”, “millennia-old history” and Samsonov’s authorship. I was not mistaken. He simply moved from “History” to “Opinions”.
    1. Anatol17 21 December 2018 08: 39 New
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      And what, one wonders, is the “Russian superethnos” better than our “great ukrov”?
      1. Freeman 22 December 2018 14: 30 New
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        And what, one wonders, is the “Russian superethnos” better than our “great ukrov”?

        You are right, in principle, no better.
        With the only amendment, that the "Russian superethnos" includes not only the "Great Russians" - but also the "Little Russians" and "Belorussians."
        True, with various variations in the relationship between them - from "equality" to the situation of the "younger brothers" of the latter, in relation to the "Great Russians".
        "Great Ukrainians" declare only their own "greatness" and the rest, "brothers" in no way consider.
        IMHO.
  • Ivan Tartugai 21 December 2018 07: 30 New
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    Why is the red emperor?
    The Latin imperātor was initially simply a “boss”, a “leader”, later it began to acquire a monarchical character, a “ruler”.
    Now often the emperor is just an official, practically nothing decisive. Like an English queen or a Japanese emperor. Nothing depends on them. They live simply as parasites, but are considered emperors.
    Stalin IV is more suitable for the head, leader.
    Both the boss and the leader are active individuals. These are people of work, people of work, who influence the development of the country. As they cease to work, work, they cease to be chiefs or leaders and the country collapses. These were Khrushchev, Brezhnev and further on the list with their parasite, members of the Politburo, ministers, marshals, generals, secretaries of regional committees and others.
    1. Altona 21 December 2018 08: 28 New
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      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Stalin IV is more suitable for the head, leader.

      ------------------
      And even the theorist himself wrote scientific works.
    2. Boris55 21 December 2018 08: 33 New
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      Both the boss and the leader are active individuals. These are people of work, people of work, who influence the development of the country. As they cease to work, work, they cease to be chiefs or leaders and the country collapses.

      That's right. Here is the picture for your post:

  • Gardamir 21 December 2018 07: 38 New
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    Everyone spoke out well. What can be added here. Stalin did, but did not speak. Citizens did not occupy empty chatter for many hours and there were results.
  • Altona 21 December 2018 08: 27 New
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    Stalin kept the whole world at the Yalta Conference. All! Say thanks. You will never see more such titans of politics. And here they all rest on trifles, some sort of "repression", "excessive losses in the Second World War." And Putin generally disgraces himself with his "executioner’s walls" and "human rights activists." He drank the heritage of his grandfathers, he also sticks to them "the USSR issued galoshes", and he himself has not been sitting in a halo for a long time.
  • leshii99 21 December 2018 08: 59 New
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    All is true.
    And who is the Leader for today? And ready to fight for power and your idea? Who is ready to bring himself or his loved ones, like Stalin (suicide of his wife, drunkenness of his son, revelry of his daughter) as a conscious and necessary sacrifice of his Idea and Purpose? Is there such a team that is also ready to sacrifice everything for the achievement of the Goal?
    So far, people supporting Communism / Socialism (by the way, it is necessary to precisely state what it is and how to implement it) will not have a Leader and a Team ready to put their own life and destiny to achieve the announced Goals and objectives, we will only cry for the lost USSR.
    I clarify that now there is no declared Civil War, comparable from 1918 - 1920. And I hope so. that the new Leaders will not allow it.
    Putin, no matter what they say about him, stands firmly for his power and at the same time he has a team going towards its Goal and hard pushing its decisions.
    PS: I apologize, which is a bit messy, but as it is.
  • Conductor 21 December 2018 09: 03 New
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    Putin, the uncle is touchy, and under the USSR they offended him, well, he was not a less valuable person in the Committee, even less likely. He sat in the GDR, did not work in the cold, Drew to the underground, and there the whole thing escaped, now the USSR is not in favor.
    1. your1970 21 December 2018 13: 26 New
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      Quote: Conductor
      Putin, the uncle is touchy, and when USSR offended him well was not he is more or less valuable in the Committee, even, most likely, less. sat in the GDR, did not work in the cold, I reached the underground, and there the whole thing broke out, now the USSR is not in favor.
      -And you didn’t live clearly under the USSR-because you don’t understand what it is officially live in the GDR during Soviet times.
      fool fool fool fool fool fool
      Do not disgrace !!!!
      Z.Y. who would offend me so ......
      1. Conductor 21 December 2018 16: 28 New
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        from 1972 of the year he lived in the USSR and what
      2. Conductor 21 December 2018 16: 29 New
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        I’m not talking about the standard of living and his career
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          Quote: Conductor
          from 1972 of the year he lived in the USSR and what

          Quote: Conductor
          I’m not talking about the standard of living and his career
          career of a person who left and worked in the USSR Beyond the border (and not in Mongolia / Africa, but in the GDR !!) and received there Colonel - HEAD-ROUND !!!- he was already automatically in reserve for the general post ...
          About such small nishtyaki - like imported things and the ability to import a foreign car from there I generally keep quiet ...
          if they gave 2 prices for the Volga easily, I don’t even dare to estimate how much you could earn on a foreign car. About prestige, if you don’t sell it, I’m silent at all.
          Vysotsky a little earlier on a Mercedes traveled around Moscow without observing any rules - and not because he was Vysotsky, but because Mercedes
    2. Ivan Tartugai 21 December 2018 16: 05 New
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      Quote: Conductor
      only escaped, now the USSR is not in favor.

      Putin did not break free, he was dragged by the Yeltsin team to the top.
      Literally at a gallop, in less than four years, they dragged from the assistant rector of the university to the President of the Russian Federation.
      The president’s administration, the FSB, the Security Council, and the post of Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, acting President of the Russian Federation.
      So he himself would never have escaped.
      Only a team, and the main team of the country can do this.
  • Loess 21 December 2018 09: 06 New
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    Soviet Russia in isolation. A strong Russia is useless to the West. There are no external investments, just as there is no access to advanced technologies.
    Everything is as it is now.
    The difference was that under the Stalinist course, the victims were meaningful, expedient - a new reality was created, a new world-civilization, a society of the future were being built.
    The victims are meaningful, yes. But this meaning was seen by the "top of power". But did the “victims” themselves know that they were “meaningful”? And modern "victims" begin to moan when they are only trying to prevent them from swearing on the Internet. Mdya ... "Victims" ...
    Stalin is a great man. And as the leader of the state, he was clearly in his “place”. But if you praise him daily, and even cloyingly idealize him, then sooner or later rejection will arise. Especially after articles like: everything was bad, bad, bad, but Stalin came in and immediately became good.
    The greatness of people like Stalin does not need eulogies, it is erased by them.
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      Quote: Less
      Stalin is a great man. And as the leader of the state, he was clearly in his “place”. But if you praise him daily, and even cloyingly idealize him, then sooner or later rejection will arise. Especially after articles like: everything was bad, bad, bad, but Stalin came in and immediately became good.
      The greatness of people like Stalin does not need eulogies, it is erased by them.

      I agree!

      And during his lifetime, Stalin did not like the blessings addressed to him. And now ...
      It is not necessary to glorify the name of the Leader, but to study his works and the works of his teachers - Marx and Lenin. Those. to do what Stalin called for. This will be the best glorification of both his deeds and his name.
    2. Claymore 21 December 2018 10: 04 New
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      Stalin is a great man. And as the leader of the power, he was clearly in his “place”

      Tell Loess, how do you feel about falsifying history?
      1. Loess 21 December 2018 10: 15 New
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        Tell Loess, how do you feel about falsifying history?

        There is no falsified story. History itself is a collection of known facts and events and nothing more. But to submit these facts and to place emphasis or to keep silent about something is a normal phenomenon. And in my, my personal understanding of the story should be presented as follows. so that people are proud of their history, regardless of the period studied. Perhaps it is worth making exceptions for revolutionary moments. To avoid clouding of minds. Did I answer your question?
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          They did not answer, because I did not ask about the existence of an unfalsified history, nor about its presentation.

          I am asking specifically about falsification - i.e. about your attitude to the distortion of historical facts.
          1. Loess 21 December 2018 10: 31 New
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            Well, if you and I don’t understand each other, then I think it makes no sense to continue the dialogue.
            1. Claymore 21 December 2018 10: 40 New
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              I can explain with an example.

              What is the meaning of the phrase “leader of the state” used by you above?
              1. Loess 21 December 2018 10: 43 New
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                What is the meaning of the phrase “leader of the state” used by you above?

                Extremely direct.
                Can you directly ask or say what you want to ask or say? Your walks around frankly tire.
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                  1. Loess 21 December 2018 11: 43 New
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                    the "leader of the state" is the head of state, and Stalin never was the head of state.

                    In order not to go into empty talk, you are familiar with this expression:
                    "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then this is probably a duck."
                    1. Claymore 21 December 2018 18: 04 New
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                      I am also familiar with the meaning contained in it.

                      Therefore, if it forms a government as head of state, accepts credentials as head of state and rewards state awards as head of state, then it is probably the head of state.

                      If it distorts historical facts as a falsifier of history, then it is a falsifier of history.


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                    Quote: Claymore
                    Khrushchev did not even think of calling Stalin the head of state - it was invented by anti-Soviet propagandists from the time of the Gorbachev perestroika.

                    This topic is not yours at all, in vain you write about it. Regarding what else, you have balanced, objective, interesting judgments. And in this - a complete fiasco.

                    You have a formal approach. That’s why it’s unproductive.
                    This de jure, Stalin was not the head of state, but de facto was its head, and leader, and master. And people are mostly not lawyers, but people.

                    You try to find somewhere among contemporaries a statement such as “leader of the world proletariat”, “leader of peoples”, “leader of the country of Soviets” about Kalinin, Shvernik, Voroshilov, Mikoyan, and indeed any of the chairmen of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. The peoples of the USSR / CIS / RF, both then and now, were considered and still are the leaders of the Union by Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, the tongue twister Andropov, Chernenko and Gorbachev.
                    1. Claymore 22 December 2018 00: 30 New
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                      Quote: McAr
                      This topic is not yours at all
                      I do not see the facts confirming this opinion.

                      You have a formal approach. That’s why it’s unproductive.
                      This is de jure Stalin
                      Dear McAr, we are not talking about a world created by a novelist, but about the state and state power, which, for objective reasons, are as formalized as possible.

                      The state is such a thing in which de jure always coincides with de facto, everything legal is factual, and everything factual that goes beyond legal is called a crime.

                      So what are you trying to convey to me when you say that Stalin was the head and master of the USSR?

                      You are aware that by making such a statement (the reasons for which are lacking due to the lack of facts confirming your position), you are thereby stating that Stalin violated the Constitution and laws of the USSR, carried out counter-revolution, and instead of the power of the Soviets established a regime of oligarchic dictatorship ?

                      What, in your understanding, does the phrase “head of state de facto” mean if the head of state is a specific position or authority for which a number of functions and powers are legally assigned, historically characteristic of heads of state?

                      And people are mostly not lawyers, but people
                      When looking at the quality of today's industrial relations, it becomes clear what this kind of "humanity" leads to.

                      You try to find somewhere among contemporaries a statement like "the leader of the world proletariat"
                      Once again - we are talking about to the head of state.

                      The proletariat is not a state, and Marx and Engels, who were called leaders, did not head any state.

                      Those. The word "leader" at that time was not called the head of state, but public figures, moral authorities, leaders of social movements, creators of theories, etc., and not heads of state.

                      But this is logic, and people are not lawyers, so we turn to dictionaries.

                      Ushakov: leader - leader of a social movement, party; ideological leader. Lenin and Stalin are the leaders of the working class.

                      Dahl: leader - ideological, political leader (social movement, party). People's The leaders of the revolutionary movement.

                      Ozhegov: the leader is the universally recognized ideological, political leader of the masses ... The head of the ideological trend, scientific direction (obsolete). The leaders of enlightenment.

                      Naturally, Kalinin was not called the leader - he was the chairman of the body that was the head of state, and not the leader or theorist of the social movement.
                      And precisely because he held the highest state post, and not a position of moral authority, he was entrenched with the humorous nickname "All-Union Warden" (elected (or appointed) person for business).

                      The peoples of the USSR / CIS / RF, both then and now, were considered and still are the leaders of the Union by Lenin and Stalin
                      And we can clearly see what such "bookkeeping" leads to.
  • Ptolemy Lag 21 December 2018 09: 21 New
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    I hope that Stalin is not the last emperor. Emperors will still be.
  • Nestorych 21 December 2018 09: 35 New
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    According to all objective, analytical estimates, it turned out that in the current situation ahead - the final death of civilization and the country. The party elite could still use huge raw materials and a thousand-year cultural and historical heritage (priceless artifacts of Russian history, art objects, etc.) for personal enrichment and creation of capital for the well-fed and beautiful life of their families in the West or East for another two or three decades.

    It’s direct, like about today's ones.))) It seems that the author has not analyzed for a long time, but ascribes his fabrications to historical periods.
  • Stalnov I.P. 21 December 2018 09: 54 New
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    Stalin was able to, he is a COB and it is recognized as a COB all over the world, GDP growth from 15 to 40 %% per year, (now 1,5%), the total gross product by 31 December 1940 increased by 26 times compared with 1913, with the highest year in tsarist Russia. After World War II, the economy of the USSR was restored in seven years. So make a conclusion about the effectiveness of ONE and about the effectiveness of the current "sitting in high chairs." The conference on December 20.12.2018, XNUMX alone showed who is who. One thing, the other - only conversation and promises.
  • gsev 21 December 2018 10: 06 New
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    Many facts of history do not correspond to the conclusions of the article. For example, I. Starinov wrote in his memoirs that the key to the arrival of I.V. Stalin's power was precisely reliance on the bureaucracy. When it was canceled partmaximum and introduced a closed distribution of benefits. For example, after this, an official pleasing to Stalin began to receive more official salary in envelopes. His book, “Mines are waiting in the wings, published with bills under Khrushchov, conveys quite interestingly the events of Stalin’s repressions. Samsonov emotionally writes about the loafers of the clumsy times of the NEP, which hindered the development of the country. But as we know from history, almost all outstanding designers or scientists under Stalin suffered repression: Khalepsky, who bought a prototype of the BT and T34 chassis from Christie (known in the USSR under the BT-1 index), the real T-34 developers (as far as I know, Koshkin didn’t work with Kulman), all the leading designers of KB Tupolev, Ba mercenaries, rocket launchers, for example Korolev, I.P. Grave, who invented the production technology of gunpowder for Katyush in 1916, and developers of vaccines and antibiotics .. In general, Simon Schnol did a detailed study of Stalin’s influence on science in the USSR, for example, Geniuses, villains, conformists of domestic science. ". In this work, one can find many more reliable facts, and the author’s comments are more reasoned. Of course, Shnol has newer works and no less interesting ones, for example, on the German influence on the development of science in Russia.
  • Egoza 21 December 2018 10: 20 New
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    He didn’t steal and didn’t let others. He did not bow to the West. And what do you think? Stalin's works in American universities are studying! Everyone thinks, and suddenly such will appear again, as to fight with it. And here ..... Here the people of Comrade respect. I.V. Stalin for honesty, integrity, modesty. Therefore, his name will be glorified over the centuries, no matter how you try to forget today.
  • Olgovich 21 December 2018 11: 15 New
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    To understand Stalin and his time, you need to look at the time when he had take the burden of power.
    The difference was that under the Stalinist course the victims were meaningful, expedient

    No one and nothing forced. Moreover, no one ever in any election of the people, did not choose anyone and didn’t entrust anything: neither “jerks” nor “meaningful” victims (as soon as it occurred to say that, even Stalin didn’t say that).

    What are the author's endless “would” about the apocalypse without it? Yes, they do not cost anything, as the experience of many CENTURIES says: Russia lived thousand years without the Bolsheviks and the leaders were dozens, who have built the largest country in the world and continue to live. Only with demographics destroyed, the catastrophe of which began in the 1930s with "meaningful victims." Which were absolutely meaningless and were the result of only inability to manage.

    NEVER, these victims, by the way, become victims, and even in peacetime, they did not agree. Who asked them? Or maybe the people asked for consent to the victims somewhere? no!
    Moreover. of these victims, according to OFFICIAL propaganda-did not exist generally the opposite. everything was amazing. and millions of peasants who died of starvation turned out to be ... already "wealthy people"

    And it was not without reason that they hid: How many votes in the REAL elections in 1937 would such leaders receive if the people knew the TRUTH about the millions who died of starvation in just a few months of 1932-33? Yes, they would not have received anything, which they were mortally afraid of, for which they spread an endless lie about everything.

    NOBODY repented for this catastrophe, shot himself, did not resign, like ... there was nothing.

    Outcomes: achieving food intake. clothing housing level of 1913 only after forty years of "improvement". many millions who died of starvation in the 20th century (nowhere else in the world) uninterrupted birth rate decline (depopulation since 1964), contraction of territory Russia-RSFSR after Education of the USSR -for 4 million km2 and a population of tens of millions of peopletoday's borders Russia-within the borders of the 17th centuryirreversibly aging The Russian people by 91, the defeated Russian village by 1985. Where did all this come from? Are the "traitors" (a bunch) guilty again?
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  • Alexander X 21 December 2018 11: 37 New
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    With age, understanding comes. So I came to understand that despite the efforts of liberals and democrats to want to slander, Stalin is a great leader of the country! And he did the right thing in terms of repression. The model of society and government at first was very similar to the present. Well, of course, at his dialectical turn ... And who is not stigmatizing the government and reproaching him for betraying his people? So then ... And the only means of treating the government were precisely repressions, for it was necessary to act cruelly with the enemies of the people ... IMHO ... But what about the pests on the ground? Now it’s already scary to go to the doctors - they will die by imposed procedures, illiterate diagnoses ... But then, was it different? And unscrupulous manufacturers of MIG 29- are not pests? And who drowned the dock? And who is cutting the budget? And who builds roads from sand? Well, then it was like. So it was necessary to punish severely, so as not to be common. But under Stalin, at first there was a Great Victory in the war and then an annual decline in food prices, etc. etc. Grandma told me about this. And the country was revived from ruins. And the country became a mighty power. And there were free pioneer camps and education was free, and every smart and diligent citizen could get higher education. And there was a unity of peoples. And not like now ...
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      Quote: Alexander X
      and then the annual decline in food prices, etc. etc. Grandma told me about this.
      -and she didn’t say that the cards were canceled and people began to buy goods at "commercial" (yes, the official name !!!) prices, there was a denomination — when the money was cut 10 times and only later(when people began to grumble and quite hard) - they reduced prices but not 10 times .
      denominations remember xnumx's
      1. Alexander X 21 December 2018 14: 41 New
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        She told everything. And the denomination has occurred in prices. And there were commercial shops, yes. But even then all was lacking for completely objective reasons. She told me how she went to such a store and cut a piece from her gold chain, hung it and converted it into rubles. This paid for the products for the holiday. She talked about how, with a disabled grandfather (from the war he came without an eye), she basically did not work, but raised children and ran a household. And he worked and provided for his family. The master of a model workshop at an aircraft factory (Mikoyanovsky) ... And the daughters grew up and learned. And one Baumanka finished another MISIS ... And how did you get the room after the wedding on 2nd Brestskaya, and then the apartment from the factory. And then the daughters got married and also received housing from the research institute, where they began to work ...
        And I remember the denomination of the 90s. And I remember how, with 2 graduates, a graduate school and a dissertation, I had to leave the research institute and go to a private office to set up computers, and write programs to feed my family. As in the 90s, on the birthday of a little daughter, a little one bought 2 bananas due to lack of money and cut them into pieces so that all the invited kids had enough. As in old age, I had to relearn no engineers were needed ...
  • wooja 21 December 2018 12: 02 New
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    Stalin --- Prometheus of our time .... The double-headed eagle of Zeus torments the flesh of a Titan chained to a rock, the people are silent as always ...., to the cries of holy fools-- Crucify him .... He left the atomic bomb ...., but he didn’t get rid of the plow ...., the dialectic of the plow and devastation, the Sharikov cadres decide everything.
  • swyatoslav 21 December 2018 13: 25 New
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    He got a completely finished, killed country.
    - Did he have a hand in this?
    Thus, the USSR could become a typical finished country, a state without a future.
    - And before the October coup, Russia was in the lead of economic development ...
    According to all objective, analytical estimates, it turned out that in the current situation ahead - the final death of civilization and the country.
    - the same question: who brought the country to such a state by 1920? Who are the saviors of the Fatherland - the very ghouls / revolutionaries who unleashed the Red Terror? There were no others, either they were shot, or they left ....
    That is, the great sacrifices made by Russia and the people, for the sake of salvation, were inevitable.
    - I wonder if the author’s opinion about the inevitable (impersonal) victims would have changed if he (or his relatives, for example) were among these victims? About the suffering of other people is always easy to reason .... soulless.
    I will not even repeat the last paragraph as a quote.
    Stalin - the bloody executioner! As a result of his (and his) adventures, millions of innocent people died.
    He did not produce or discover anything - on the blood and bones of his kingdom was ...
    1. your1970 21 December 2018 13: 47 New
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      He did not produce or discover anything - on the blood and bones of his kingdom was ...
      -And Nikolay- 2 what I am embarrassed to ask - produced?
      Due to concessions on the Yalu River, he built the Russo-Japanese War, during which the empire lost its fleet altogether ..
      I got into absolutely unnecessary RI PMV ...
      I looked through the February revolution ...
      Even his own convoy, where the king was a godson at a bunch of children of a military convoy, betrayed him on 4 Revolution Day .....
      1. Olgovich 21 December 2018 14: 34 New
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        Quote: your1970
        and Nikolai-2, what am I shy to ask - did you produce?

        The COUNTRY produced, together with its ancestors, the largest in the world and with the fastest growing, FULL FORCE, people, with freedom, parties, newspapers, juries.

        Under the next ruler (even after the formation of the USSR), the territory of the RSFSR-Russia decreased 4 million km2 and tens of millions of peopleth: today's state borders of Russia of the 17th century, its cutting.

        From freedom, not a trace.

        And the population ceased to give birth, grew old and entered into a depopulation since 1964.

        When Nicholas русские settled Central Asia, the Caucasus. DV Siberia. Poland had an excess population.
        After the following rulers already jamshuts populate the empty Russian cities and villages.

        but- class close, true. But this is the main thing, right, your own?
        1. rayruav 21 December 2018 19: 03 New
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          hey Russian lost in chisinau, stop your inventions about the activity if 2 he was what is confirmed by his diaries
          1. Olgovich 22 December 2018 07: 38 New
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            Quote: rayruav
            th Russian lost in chisinau, stop your inventions about activity if 2

            Statistics are not fiction: see demography and borders of Russia under the Emperor and after your idols. Tears do not choke?
        2. your1970 22 December 2018 11: 44 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          The COUNTRY produced, together with its ancestors, the largest in the world and with the fastest growing, FULL FORCE, people, with freedom, parties, newspapers, juries.
          - you still separate flies(Nicholas!) From cutlets(his ancestors).
          1) The country was not collected by him - his only acquisition (and that is very controversial, has begun to him) is Kushka. He (Port Arthur and the like), he missed everything else, or rather profiled. He could not keep Poland / Finland after his abdication - he would have brought the country to such a state. Even Stalin's 1945 sample of the year
          2) A fast-growing yes, I agree. 10 of children per family on average. But the trick is that a person reproduces quickly only where he lives poorly and hard (there are plenty of living examples in the world — Asia, Africa, South America, Asia) .Then in RI, it was a way to at least somehow survive - many workers / employees are free.
          And vice versa, when a person is relatively comfortable - he ceases to multiply sharply. He begins to move the slogans: "We need grandmothers - to raise children, wean, etc. We need grandmothers to buy a more modern car / go to Turkey / Maldives / iPhone to buy / etc. . " This is how Europe / USA / and even we live now. Depopulation started in the USSR then - when there was a separate housing (Khrushchev) / TV / stable work with sufficient pay. And it immediately killed large families - why 10 children when parents earn like that - that they can even put off a little?
          3) Freedom, parties, newspapers ... but why isn’t it now? As far as I can see, neither you nor me are being sent to prison. Despite the fact that you and I speak out to myself in the media ("Media Registration Certificate ФС77-56354 ") - and sometimes it’s rather impartial to the current government
          Parties? As with Nicholas - liberal, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Social Democrats, conservative, communist, right-wing ...
          Ultra and the Nazis there is no glory to God! Everything else is available ....
          Xnumx) jury? how many revolutionaries so unloved by you have you justified? a wagon and a small cart. What is wrong with them now?

          Z.Y. I am quite loyal to all the ancestors of Nicholas, who really did everything for Russia.
          I think that he and his wife received the bullet in the basement quite deservedly - for their affairs, for the ineptly fucked-up Russia.
          Here are his children (unlike him) really were villainously killed for nothing
      2. swyatoslav 21 December 2018 20: 15 New
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        And the article about Nicholas II? request
        The author praises the killer - Stalin, according to Nikolai, apparently in another article will go through ....
  • username1234 21 December 2018 14: 14 New
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    If we talk about politics, then there is no point in inventing a bicycle, the Americans invented it 200 years ago and everything goes and does not break, everything is simple:

    The state should have a social contract (constitution), but the most important thing is that the people should be its subject, that is, a party and not an appendage, and for this people should be able to audit, which is expressed in the free possession of automatic weapons and the right to rebel in case of violation of the constitution or usurpation of power, only the armed civilian police can keep the power of the servant to go into a state of mastery, only animal fear of violence.

    If, according to the Stalinists, Stalin was good, good, but he didn’t create a car, according to the Stalinists, bad people got behind the wheel and the people couldn’t prevent this from happening in Stalin, it makes no sense, the ruler should not be good and wise, but the system.
    1. Sergej1972 22 December 2018 08: 55 New
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      Just possession of automatic weapons in the United States is now not allowed. And by the way, can you cite the facts when the American people took advantage of the right to rebel after the formation of the United States? By the way, the US Constitution does not have such a right. This is a phrase from the Declaration of Independence.
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    Quote: Thus, Stalin managed to do the almost impossible. The end of the quote.
    Be realistic - demand the impossible!
  • victor50 21 December 2018 15: 03 New
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    The head of the USSR was a collegial body - the Presidium of the Supreme Council.

    It would be better if you didn’t get smart, it won’t give anything. Everyone understands perfectly well what it is about and why you decided to speak .... with such a long approach. In your opinion, the head of state was legally not the Presidium, but the Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Council, that is, a significant period under Stalin M.I. Kalinin. And you will insist that he should be called the head of state? And do not carry nonsense about the falsification of Gorbachev, etc. period ... if you do not understand the issue.
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      Quote: victor50
      You better not be smart
      For you, obviously, clever is everything that is a little more complicated than felt boots.

      The head of state, if you think, was not the Presidium legally, but the Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces
      The head of state is determined not by your ideas about the legal, but by the set of functions and powers characteristic of the head of state, which in the USSR was legally assigned to the Presidium of the Armed Forces, and not to its chairman.

      And you will insist that he should be called the head of state?
      I will insist that Kalinin was one of the leaders of the USSR, and the Presidium of the Armed Forces was the head of the USSR - since all this, unlike your fantasies, is documented.

      For now, you can continue to falsify history and declare Stalin “the head of state” and “ruler,” which, in relation to the conditions of the collegial leadership system existing in the USSR, equals Stalin’s accusation of usurping power.
      1. Sergej1972 22 December 2018 09: 02 New
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        Do you really not know that in the USSR the Soviets were crushed by the party and their own executive committees? And their activity was largely formal? The main person in the region, after all, was not the chairman of the district executive committee or regional executive committee, but the first secretary of the district committee or regional party committee. But at the grassroots level, in rural areas, the main people were not the chairmen of village councils, but the chairmen of collective farms and directors of state farms.
        1. your1970 22 December 2018 11: 56 New
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          Quote: Claymore
          I will insist that Kalinin was one of the leaders of the USSR, and the Presidium of the Armed Forces was the head of the USSR - since all this, unlike your fantasies, is documented.
          Den Xiao Ping in China at xnumx in general had no posts - however, was the most influential person in China
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            Deng Xiao Ping had no posts at all in China in the 80s
            Well, yes - he just served as chairman of the Central Military Council, while "not holding" any posts. laughing

            however was the most powerful man in China
            How did you define this?
            1. your1970 22 December 2018 16: 20 New
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              Well, yes - he just served as chairman of the Central Military Council, while "not holding" any posts.
              -helped from all posts at the end of 80's
              In this setting, at the beginning of 1992, 87-year-old Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping, no longer holding any official posts, He visited the most advanced in the sense of economic reforms southern regions of the country specifically to call for the continuation and deepening of the policy of openness to the outside world, proclaimed by him at the end of the 70's.
              Why Dan decided to perform outside of Beijing, it soon became clear. Dthe fact was that the party leaders, who had already gathered to lead the country in a different way, who believed that the “old man” had retired and would agree with all their plans, were at first confused and were not even allowed to publish messages about this trip. The first to break down was the new Central Secretary General of the Central Committee, Jiang Zemin, who publicly supported Dan a month later, probably deciding that this would be a good way to demonstrate the continuity of power. The further course of events showed that Jiang himself was a supporter of deepening reforms, but, apparently, at first he was afraid to openly express his views.
              After that, the situation quickly changed: they gradually got rid of frank retrogrades in the leadership, and Deng Xiaoping's position was recognized as official. What was Dan talking about? Briefly, his ideas were as follows: strengthen the power of the CPC, deepen market reforms, interest the West economically, trying to get everything that is possible from it. The living classic supported reform ideas and projects: special economic zones in Shenzhen and Zhuhai, the creation of joint ventures, the development of the coastal zone, the attraction of foreign investment and technology, and the increase in exports to developed countries.
              Dan’s trip actually launched a new phase of reforms implemented in 1990.
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                -helped from all posts at the end of 80's
                "Den Xiao Ping in China in the 80s had no posts at all

                The fact is that those who were already about to lead the country along a different path
                Tralyalyalya - where are the facts confirming the version of events described in the copy-paste?
        2. Claymore 22 December 2018 12: 04 New
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          "Ah, really you do not know ?!" laughing

          The facts confirming your position - in the studio.
          1. your1970 22 December 2018 13: 57 New
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            the facts are simple - our collective farm chairman could NOT to give the car to the chairman of the village council for a trip to the region or to give some sort of trakhoma - so that he appears in the region like a damn whole in the dust ....
            Chairman + party organizer - this is the main power in the village
            In the army - in our unit they elected an 20 summer conscript (a student at Moscow State University who had been expelled from some course). He was a member of the CPSU already before the army. And we systematically observed a funny picture - as a soldier at a party meeting puts the unit commander at attention and begins to tear him .Also, he’s getting rid of it, but God forbid, they will slap a reprimand on the party line, a scribe ...
            1. Claymore 22 December 2018 15: 28 New
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              Kindergarten. laughing

              Collective farm - collective nota state-owned enterprise, and a car purchased with collective farm funds is his property, which the owner (or his authorized representative) is free to dispose of at his discretion.
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                golden words !!!! NOT state, exactly !!! yeah-yeah ... only the PLAN let them down the state and tear the state for not fulfilling ....
                Therefore, I went to the district for a party activist meeting in connection with the sowing on the Volga - and the village councilor in the Lawn .... Although he had more power, as you say, ...
                The building of the district committee was newer and prettier than the executive committee, and the Canadian Christmas trees were planted in front of it - and not in front of the executive committee. NOT State collective farms-1 secretary of the district committee, not the executive committee.
                And yes, oddly enough, all of the above applies also to directors of state farms ...
                1. Claymore 24 December 2018 00: 29 New
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                  Exactly.

                  The descent "plan" is a tax, and the state usually fights for tax evasion.
                  1. your1970 24 December 2018 13: 11 New
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                    The descent plan had nothing to do with taxes. The state took its analogue of the current Treasury through the State Bank.
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                      You are not tired of writing nonsense yet?


                      SNK of the USSR
                      Central Committee of the CPSU (b)
                      Decree of January 19, 1933.

                      1. To cancel the existing contractual (contractual) system of harvesting grain crops and establish for collective farms and individual farms strong tax liabilities for the delivery of grain to the state at established state prices.


                      ZY
                      The Treasury is not an analogue of the State Bank.
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                        and you? The question of the times of 60-70 was discussed, and you pulled out 1933 ...
                        and yes, it’s a “firm commitment”, albeit with the force of a tax, but NOT a tax

                        ZY
                        With the State Bank was not quite right, I admit my guilt
                        “In 1965-69, during the course of the economic reform in the activities of the State Bank, there were changes related to lending and settlements, planning and regulation of money circulation, financing of capital investments and organization of savings business. The main types of lending to the industry were lending for the circulation of material values ​​and costs on salaries and on simple loan accounts. "
                      2. Claymore 26 December 2018 02: 01 New
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                        Quote: your1970
                        the question of times 60-70 was discussed
                        It captures the title of the text under which we leave comments, consists of 4 words - "What is the phenomenon of Stalin" (which, as it were, hints).

                        Accordingly, the content of my comments, which has become the object of your objections, refers specifically to the "Stalin" period.

                        and yes, it’s a “firm commitment”, albeit with the force of a tax, but NOT a tax
                        Risk to try to identify the conceptual difference? lol

                        He was not quite right with the State Bank
                        Not at all right.

                        The State Bank (aka the Central Bank, aka the National Bank) is engaged in monetary policy, ensuring the operation of the payment system and regulating the financial sector throughout the state.

                        And the Treasury is a kind of "financial secretariat" and is engaged in budget execution (allocation of budgetary funds in accordance with the prescription).
  • 16112014nk 21 December 2018 16: 01 New
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    Like Pushkin in literature, so Stalin in politics is "our everything."
    "Jewish nationalists and career bribe takers wrote to power in the USSR after 1953. Covered from the Kremlin, when the time comes they will drop their masks, throw out party cards and rule openly their counties as feudal lords and serfs." © Mao Zedong
    He said this in 1964, and after 30 years began to come true. And now it is already taking on real shape.
    1. wooja 21 December 2018 16: 42 New
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      Mao was wise ...., the environment of Stalin was not wise ....
    2. Sergej1972 21 December 2018 17: 50 New
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      Mao did not say that.
  • Ivan Tartugai 21 December 2018 18: 12 New
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    Quote from the article:
    "That is, the great sacrifices that Russia and the people made, for the sake of salvation, were inevitable."

    A thief will never be a fellow worker.
    The thief will always rob the worker, thanks to the robbery, robbery, deception of the worker, the thief exists. A thief will fight to the death and is fighting for his existence, it is vital for him to steal, rob, deceive.
    If a worker wants to get rid of a parasite thief, a robber, a bloodsucker, then victims will be inevitable.
  • rayruav 21 December 2018 18: 58 New
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    as soon as I read about the matrix code, I immediately recognized the author, if you really respect Stalin, do not carry nonsense, he adhered to dialectical materialism and not some kind of medieval mysticism and outright lies
  • ship 21 December 2018 23: 08 New
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    Comrade Samsonov writes:

    “To understand Stalin and his time, you need to look at the time when he had to take the burden of power. The 1920s. Russia barely emerged from the horror of world carnage, bloody confusion and intervention. Millions of victims, refugees, beggars and cripples The catastrophe of the previous development project nearly killed Russian civilization and the country. The Bolsheviks miraculously saved the country and the people from death. But the situation was extremely difficult. The economy and transport are in ruin. Industry collapsed, degraded, the industrial upsurge of the beginning of the XNUMXth century was long ago. Not not a single large enterprise, power plant has been created; there are no large-scale construction projects of transport projects. "

    Real power, i.e. "when he had to take the burden of power," Stalin began to possess after 1928. Until that time, Soviet Russia was recovering under the leadership of Dzerzhinsky, a feat of which Samsonov among them is silent. The desire to attribute to Stalin the achievements of the first years of the Soviet Authority in restoring the national economy can be done in different ways, but it is also possible that "helpful ***** is more dangerous than the enemy."
  • Moreno 22 December 2018 03: 27 New
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    Those who write about him never lived in those days. It doesn't matter what they write, good or bad. The country rushed forward, and the “top managers” he had the best in the world. For example, Lavrentiy Beria!
  • free 22 December 2018 12: 51 New
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    Happy Birthday, Comrade Stalin!
  • Metaphor 22 December 2018 17: 04 New
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    But at a banquet in Tehran, Churchill in the presence of Stalin and Roosevelt, raising his glass, said: "I get up in the morning and pray that Stalin is alive and well. Only Stalin can save the world!" Marshal Alexander Golovanov in Tehran has witnessed this. This is power!
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      Quote: Metaphor
      But at a banquet in Tehran, Churchill in the presence of Stalin and Roosevelt, raising his glass, said: "I get up in the morning and pray that Stalin is alive and well. Only Stalin can save the world!" Marshal Alexander Golovanov in Tehran has witnessed this. This is power!

      Tell the fables of Kryladze. And you think someone will believe you.
  • indy424 22 December 2018 17: 17 New
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    At first I decided that this is a prokhanov epic. No. next generation
  • Tomich3 22 December 2018 18: 43 New
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    The key mechanism for the restoration of industry during the NEP years was the loading of available capacities. At the same time, the growth rate gradually faded, especially in agriculture, where in 1927–1928 a grain procurement policy was introduced, which created price scissors — high prices for industrial goods relative to agricultural ones. This changed the terms of trade between town and country and discouraged peasants. In fact, since 1925, agriculture and small-scale industry have entered a stage of stagnation.
    The violation of the exchange of goods between the city and the village created deficits and could be restored only in two ways - either by adjusting relative prices, that is, the conditions of exchange, or by force. Stalin chose the second option.
    Another important point. There is another important criterion for assessing the success of NEP - the return of the economy to the trend of normal years. If we think that every national economy has a long-term, “centuries-old” trend of natural development, then the years of crisis are losses not only due to a decrease from the pre-crisis mark. It is also a deviation from the potential trajectory, which is always greater. So, the average growth rate of the Russian economy in terms of per capita GDP up to 1913 was 1,74 percent per year. Therefore, by the end of the 1920s, actual per capita income was a quarter lower than potential. And only in the late 1930s did the Soviet economy return to the pre-revolutionary trend. At the same time, she made the main breakthrough from 1933 to 1937.
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      Moreover, she made the main breakthrough from 1933 to 1937

      Dzerzhinsky died in 1926. The national economy is at the very least, but has already been restored. Why did the jerk happen only from the 33rd year, and not much earlier?
      History is basically politicized. A number of circumstances are ignored or interpreted for the sake of various political predilections. Such a circumstance was the World Economic Crisis of 1929-1933. Indeed, it was thanks to this crisis that the beneficial cooperation between the USSR and the West was organized for US. Their crisis, which is called very useful to us, incidentally came. Comrade Stalin used it very competently. But for many, this was not even a jerk, but a leap into industrialization was incomprehensible and was perceived as something incomprehensible, something on the verge of a miracle.
      At a very good time, I.V. Stalin came to power in the USSR. A worthy leader of the USSR.
  • Tomich3 22 December 2018 18: 44 New
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    Therefore, the Stalinist industrialization touted by many only returned the country's economic power to its potential, nothing more.
  • high 22 December 2018 21: 35 New
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    Stalin managed to do the almost impossible.

    Yes, impossible, by the end of 1941 the Red Army was defeated, lost 7 people in the first six months of the war:
    2 people were killed and wounded (100% of all losses).
    3 800 000 - prisoners (about 45% of all losses).
    1 - 000 - deserters evading the front and captivity

    We must believe the recognition of Marshal Zhukov:
    ,, But one cannot deny that the Americans drove us so much material without which we could not form our reserves and could not continue the war ...
    We had no explosives, gunpowder.
    There was nothing to equip rifle cartridges. The Americans really helped us out with gunpowder, explosives.
    And how much they drove us to sheet steel!
    How could we quickly set up tank production if it weren’t for American steel help? .... ,,
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      Quote: alta
      The Red Army was defeated, lost 7 people in the first six months of the war:

      This was not a problem for the USSR. They would also have gained 7,5 million.
      The problem was software. And serious, since the USSR was not capable of anything but a small local war and the “Stalinist strike”. There was virtually nothing, from food and boots to high-octane gasoline, gunpowder and TNT.
      If the consumption of these (and not only) components went beyond what was stored in the warehouses, then all, the USSR came kirdyk. Because "powerful Soviet industry" existed only in the agitation of Sovagitprop.
      This happened in 1941. On September 24.09.1941, 2, the USSR was forced to end an independent German-Soviet war and enter 14.08.41MB on the side of the Anglo-Saxons. Although Roosevelt announced that this would happen as early as August 2, 4, i.e. in less than XNUMX months of waging war on their own, the Bolsheviks began to ask under the roof of the Anglo-Saxons. Stocks have run out. Further, the main supply of the Red Army went from other sources. And this is by no means XNUMX%, as Sovagitprop declared it.
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    3. Ivan Tartugai 23 December 2018 05: 45 New
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      Quote: alta
      We must believe the recognition of Marshal Zhukov:

      In his memoirs Zhukov for help, about Lend-Lease wrote:
      No words, help with gunpowder, high-octane gasoline, some types of steel, vehicles and food, of course, played a positive role. But her specific weight was negligibleif we talk about the general needs of our country in the agreed volumes of supplies. As for the tanks and planes that the British and American governments supplied to us, frankly, they were not popular with our tankmen and pilots, especially tanks that burned like torches when working on gasoline.

      Any help is unconditional, even the smallest in this bloody war saved the life of a soldier or commander of the Red Army, brought Victory closer. And the Soviet Union gratefully accepted it.
      But exaggerate its significance, as many are now doing, is also not needed.
    4. Mechanic 24 December 2018 06: 33 New
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      At the beginning of the war Zhukov was the beginning. General Staff. So he has no one to blame
  • iliushin2016 23 December 2018 03: 15 New
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    Stalin won by building a just society for all people in Soviet Russia - the USSR. And the liberals hate him fiercely for this ... https: //mtdata.ru/u12/photo7007/20917692751-0/original.jpeg
  • Campanella 23 December 2018 20: 09 New
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    Yes, unlike the current president, Stalin made a breakthrough. But the GDP is looking for everyone who would have made this breakthrough. He, as a leader, sets ambitious goals and ambitiously fails them (officials are bad). And who is pleased with the work of the Medvedev government? Vasya Pupkin?
    Some kind of split personality turns out.
  • Mechanic 24 December 2018 06: 36 New
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    Leaders like Stalin I.V. appear once every 1000 years. So we are lucky that we had it
    1. Vladimir 5 24 December 2018 14: 13 New
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      In the photo in the article is a double of I. Stalin. I.V. Stalin in the history of Russia is ambiguous and similar to Peter -1. He expanded the empire, but the people completely bled and drove into poverty ..., The state needs many decades to at least restore power to the previous level without development ... The consequences of the extermination of the best layers of Russian citizens, a distant result of today's "collapse" of the huge USSR in accused and robbed of Russia, - the Russian Federation All this is laid down in the Stalinist rule - bloodlessness and destruction of the upper stratum of society and in the sense of the leadership of Russia. felt today. Therefore, the majority in the government of the Russian Federation is not Russian, but often citizens with Israeli passports, for. no one to rule and remove them from power, exterminated and there is no continuation ...
  • Doliva63 25 December 2018 20: 53 New
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    [quote = waqsa] The USSR was a country that all working humanity looked with hope at and that all non-working people hated. [/ quo
    Judging by the comments, they still hate him - how afraid they are that they will one day ask for everything laughing laughing
  • Zakonnik 26 December 2018 08: 55 New
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    Was there a personality cult in the USSR? It was. But there was a Person.
  • Mikhail3 26 December 2018 17: 28 New
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    based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix code, that is, social justice and ethics of conscience.
    That's just nothing like Stalin never did, which ultimately ruined the great project. Neither ethics nor conscience were welcomed in the USSR, much less used in the production and resolution of various issues. Alas.
    Managed to advance in equality, this is true. But only that. And as for the rest ... "without a piece of paper you are a small insect! And with a piece of paper a person ..." If anyone used conscience at the level of state administration, it was tsarist Russia. Excuse me ...
  • tank64rus 26 December 2018 19: 23 New
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    The Red Emperor and really a Slave on the Throne.
  • swyatoslav 11 February 2019 15: 19 New
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    VO took the practice of "trolling" readers with this controversial topic for many!
    Provoke comments and debate. Let them curse, scold, write hundreds of comments!
    Thus, the readers rating of the publication is maintained ....
    It would not be necessary to quarrel, but to bring together different opinions.