What is the phenomenon of Stalin

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Old Russia died in the cruel agony of 1914-1920. It was impossible to restore it. The White movement tried to restore the old Russia, without autocracy, but the white project (liberal bourgeois, pro-Western) suffered a complete collapse. The people did not accept him, and the whites suffered a terrible defeat.

What is the phenomenon of Stalin




The only way out was to create a new society, state and civilization based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix-code, that is, social justice and the ethics of conscience. This is the essence of Stalin's phenomenon and the new wave of his popularity in modern Russia. The people at the level of the general subconscious sense that it was the red emperor who groped for the correct, correct path of development for Russia, which led civilization and the people into the future, to a new qualitatively different level of development. The country then needed a qualitative breakthrough, a leap into the future. It was necessary to jump into the "bright future", otherwise - a new catastrophe and the final death of Russian civilization and the millennial Russian super-ethnos. It was this great mission that fell to the lot of the former seminarian, professional revolutionary and self-taught person who had studied all his life. Stalin began the creation of an empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

To understand Stalin and his time, it is necessary to look at the time when he had to shoulder the burden of power. 1920-s. Russia barely floated out of the horror of the world massacre, bloody unrest and intervention. Millions of victims, refugees, beggars and cripples. The catastrophe of the former development project nearly killed the Russian civilization and the country. The Bolsheviks literally miraculously saved the country and the people from destruction. But the situation was extremely difficult. Economy and transport in ruin. The industry has collapsed, degraded, the industrial expansion of the beginning of the 20th century is long past. Not a single large enterprise or power plant has been created, there are no large-scale construction projects for transport projects. Gold stock plundered and lost. Huge capital, financial means were taken abroad by representatives of the former elite, the aristocracy, the bourgeoisie, the White Guards and the representatives of the Lenin Guard themselves. Agriculture was hardly restored, but on the whole the village is still in the past - there are very few tractors and mechanized tools, horses are used at best, and own forces at worst. Most of the peasant farms live in subsistence farming, on self-feed. The village lives in poverty, starving. At the same time, a stratum of wealthy owners, fists, who exploit the farm laborers, stands out. Soviet Russia in isolation. West strong Russia to anything. External investment is not, as there is no access to advanced technologies. The USSR was to become an underdeveloped country, where the industry will develop mainly in the extraction of resources and in the light, food industry. The country is mainly agrarian, as is the Russian Empire.

The Soviet party elite in such a situation could become a semi-colonial administration that would firmly crush any people's displeasure with the help of the Cheka, the Red Army and special forces (often non-Russian - Latvians, Hungarians, Chinese, etc.), gradually turning Russia into a semicolony of the West and East (Japan). At the same time, the party elite itself will bathe in luxury, will become a new elite, which can travel abroad, buy property abroad, luxury goods, they are given special supplies, goods for “chosen ones” will be purchased for currency for the sale of resources. Their children will study at the best schools in Europe, etc. The best factories and mines, deposits and forests were transferred to perpetual concessions to Western and Japanese campaigns. In particular, among such Western concessionaires was the famous "official friend" of the USSR Armand Hammer, who in 20-e beginning 30-s at bargain prices bought and removed from Russia Gokhran jewels, antiquities, paintings, sculptures from the Hermitage. The country was to become a supplier of grain, other products of agriculture, forests, oil, metals, and at the same time a sales market for foreign goods. All this will be implemented after the 1991 year, and could become a reality already in 1920-1930-s.

Thus, the USSR could become a typical goner country, a state without a future. And the ruling Communist Party, which replaced the noble-bourgeois elite of the Russian Empire, could become a semi-colonial administration, feeding people with tales of a "bright future." In Soviet Russia, according to the plans of the Western masters, they would build a testing ground for a pseudo-communist, Marxist model of a pyramid society, based on mute and disenfranchised masses (slaves), and on top of international revolutionaries associated with the global mafia (the so-called “financial internationalist "," world backstage ", etc.). Later this model could be extended to most of the planet - the “world revolution”. This model was represented in the USSR by revolutionaries-internationalists, supporters of Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and other party leaders.

This is the legacy inherited by Joseph Dzhugashvili - the future red emperor, the last emperor of Russia-USSR. He got completely finished, killed the country. He could quietly enjoy life, the luxury of an affordable party elite. To equip yourself, family and friends "spare airfields" in Western countries. Establish contacts with Western "friends and partners" in Italy, Germany, France and the United States.

According to all objective, analytical estimates, it turned out that, in the current situation, the final death of civilization and the country was ahead. The party elite could still use two or three decades of enormous raw materials and a thousand-year culturalhistorical heritage (priceless artifacts of Russian history, objects of art, etc.) for personal enrichment and the creation of capital for the well-fed and beautiful life of their families in the West or East. But the future of Russia-the USSR did not have a model of the beginning - the mid-1920s. Then there was either a long and painful agony with economic stagnation, with hunger and spontaneous urban and peasant riots, uprisings, famine, mass epidemics, falling away of national suburbs, and the seizure of a number of territories by neighbors. Or a rather quick death from economic collapse, new unrest, and military defeat from any great power - Japan, Germany, or a coalition of powers. In Europe during this period aggressive authoritarian, militaristic, Nazi and fascist states took shape, which was associated with the beginning of the second stage of the crisis of capitalism. therefore The military collapse of Soviet Russia, deindustrialized, agrarian and peasant, not having a strong economy and, accordingly, a modern army was obvious and inevitable. Virtually all of Russia's then-neighbors had territorial claims to it, drew on its potentially rich lands and resources, and wanted to build their great powers at the expense of the Russian lands. Among the contenders for the Russian territory were Japan, Finland, Poland, Germany, Romania, Turkey. Only a miracle, a breakthrough into the future, into a new technological and civilizational structure could save Russia.

It seemed that in the second half of 20's, the worst predictions began to come to life. The new economic policy (NEP) has stabilized the situation, but has exhausted its positive aspects. Since 1927, the grain harvest crisis began. Cities with their outdated, weak industry could not provide the village with all the necessary goods. The village refuses to sell bread. We have to re-enter the ration cards. The village is on the verge of a new peasant war and famine. Cities continue to decay - unemployment (people flee from the city to the village where they can live subsistence farming), poverty, the masses of beggars and beggars, the homeless, orphans. New wave of crime. The Golden Calf, a novel by Ilf and Petrov, perfectly conveyed this whole atmosphere of theft and scam that permeated Russia of that time. The dominance of the Soviet bureaucracy, which by the number of consumers surpassed the king's. The merging of the party-soviet apparatus with organized crime began. In the top of the party tough confrontation over the future of the USSR.

At the same time, the people as a whole were exsanguinated by a world war, a revolution and subsequent turmoil, a massacre and terror. Human capital was extremely low. Millions of people died or fled abroad. The collapse of the Russian Romanovs was accompanied by a psychocaster. People did not believe and were afraid of the future, their psychology was formed by the world and civil wars, that is, a terrible wave of violence, fear and great blood. The previous ethics of morality and labor were destroyed. The great evil that broke free in 1917 year only calmed down a bit and was ready to flood the country again. In Russia, there was a whole army of revolutionaries who could only destroy: the state, the church, the “outdated” morality, the “outdated” art, culture and history. There was the intelligentsia, which for a century had been brought up in love of the West and hatred of Russia, nihilism, lack of faith, and could not create. There were hundreds of thousands of world and civil war fighters in the country, former "green" bandits, anarchists who knew the taste of powerlessness, unpunished robbery and murder, red heroes who were used to freedom weapon Basmachi and nationalists, etc. The potential for a new explosion was gigantic. It took literally a miracle to send this huge destructive potential, black energy into a creative channel.

Thus, the Russian sample 1920-s quickly crawled to a new distemper, civil and peasant war, great blood, collapse and famine. Ahead again, the separation of national suburbs, the wild massacre and the invasion of neighbors. In particular, Finland, where the radicals dream of “Great Finland” up to the Northern Urals (the minimum program is to seize all of Karelia and the Kola Peninsula); Poland, which is small in Western Belarus and Western Ukraine. New invasion of Japan in Primorye, in the Far East, mountains of corpses. The arrival of the White emigres, who still retained their fighting efficiency, and all this time they were accumulating hatred and preparing for a new war. They were preparing for revenge and reprisals against the enemy, they did not have a creative program.

There were no scenarios for saving the country in the programs of whites, the right and left opposition in the Communist Party, or the ideas of economists of old Russia. All alternatives to the hard Stalinist course led eventually to even greater sacrifices among the people than was the case in real history. They ended in an inevitable new catastrophe modeled on 1917 of the year. and the complete disintegration of the country and civilization already in the 1930's. A detonator for the final collapse of Russia was either an external invasion, a lost war, or a confrontation between the government and the people, town and country that reached the point of a new civilizational battle.

That is, the great sacrifices made by Russia and the people for the sake of salvation were inevitable. The difference was that under the Stalinist course the victims were meaningful, expedient - a new reality was created, a new world-civilization, a society of the future were being built. Sacrifices were made for the sake of common development and prosperity, for the sake of a breakthrough, a breakthrough into the future. In other development scenarios (the victory of internationalist revolutionaries, Trotskyists, whites, etc.), all the victims became meaningless and in vain, as they led to the complete and final destruction of Russian civilization and the superethnos of the Russians (Russians).

Thus, Stalin managed to do the almost impossible. He not only kept Russia on the brink of a new catastrophe, but made a breakthrough into the future. Created a new reality, a new civilization and a society of the future. Opened for the Russian civilization and the people, for all mankind the door to the future, a different "sunny" world of the "beautiful is far." Therefore, his image is so popular in Russia, if people don’t understand at the level of consciousness, they feel at the level of the general subconscious that only a similar breakthrough can save civilization from final degradation and collapse. The last emperor went against all forecasts and calculations, all external and internal enemies of Russia-USSR and won!
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  1. +45
    21 December 2018 05: 54
    Stalin began to build the empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

    Today is 140 years since the birth of I.V. Stalin.
    1. +44
      21 December 2018 05: 59
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Stalin began to build the empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

      Today is 140 years since the birth of I.V. Stalin.

      how often we began to remember Joseph Vissarionovich ... after all, now we are only fed with promises of "breakthroughs" and "ups" ..
      1. +43
        21 December 2018 06: 30
        With a fair, socialist method of economic management, our country, like a Phoenix bird, twice rose from the ashes and found itself at the forefront. And under "effective" capitalism, capitalism "for its own", modern Russia, even on the basis of the rich inheritance inherited from the powerful economy of the USSR, vegetates from crisis to crisis, and only in words (Putin's) promises us new breakthroughs.
        1. +21
          21 December 2018 06: 38
          Country then needed a qualitative breakthrough, a leap into the future. It was necessary to jump into a "bright future", otherwise - a new catastrophe and the final death of Russian civilization and thousands of years of Russian superethnos.

          Stalin managed to find the ways and means of this breakthrough, and the USSR was a superpower, the mere sound of the anthem of which caused tears of happiness in some, and fear and hysteria in others. The new government is trying to jump above its head while climbing onto the shoulders of the people, without even thinking for a moment to exchange the flag and anthem for gold medals of dubious dignity.
          1. +32
            21 December 2018 07: 35
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Stalin managed to find ways and means of a breakthrough and the USSR was a superpower. The new government is trying to jump above his head while climbing on the shoulders of the people .......

            In one kingdom-state, leaders all tried to raise their state from its knees. They understand, raise, but can’t lift. They began to think and wonder what to do. Here is one of them, the smartest, and says:
            - And, come on, let's go to Stalin, we will consult how to be. He did it after all.
            And they came to Stalin and asked:
            - Joseph Vissarionovich, tell me what needs to be done to raise the country from its knees?
            Stalin smiled at his mustache, then looked at them sternly and said:
            - After what you have done to raise a country, you must first shoot you.

            Vladimir Vladimirovich sleeps, and Joseph Vissarionovich dreams of him.
            Putin asks Stalin:
            “Can I help you somehow?”
            - Why is everything bad with us, the economy is falling apart, etc ... What should I do?
            Stalin, without hesitation, replies:
            - To shoot the entire government and paint the walls of the Kremlin in blue.
            “But why in blue?”
            - I assumed that the discussion will be only on the second issue.

            In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

            Today, for one dirty, unsecured green piece of paper issued by the state, which is just about a kirdyk, you need to give 68 units of a solid and stable currency that has risen from the knees of one superpower.

            At a reception at the American embassy, ​​the US ambassador boasted that they say they have a sorcerer in Alabama who picks up the dead. Molotov, who was present at the reception, calmly noted that in the USSR there is also a wonderful athlete who runs ahead of the plane.
            Khrushchev, having heard about this fact, called Molotov to him.
            - Why are you talking about it, Mikhalych? Well, how will they demand to present a miracle athlete?
            “We will first demand that they present their necromancer.”
            - And if presented?
            - We demand verification, let it raise ... Stalin, for example.
            - And ... and ... suddenly he will raise - what then? ..
            “Then you, Nikita, aren't that plane — you will overtake a rocket.”

            Putin thanked the Russians for their own election and promised to fight to increase real incomes of citizens. About the unrealistic income of members of the government and officials from the presidential administration, he preferred to remain silent.

            - Kum, it seems that we have bred a new breed of bosses - the leader ...
            1. +22
              21 December 2018 08: 22
              The last emperor (Stalin) went against all forecasts and calculations, all the external and internal enemies of Russia-the USSR and won!

              Good article about Stalin. It is a pity that nothing was written about the role of Stalin in the victory of the USSR in the Second World War. And meanwhile, about Stalin the people went excellent approving jokes.

              For example, a great joke about Stalin.

              At the Tehran Conference, Roosevelt and Churchill were tired that only Stalin’s proposals were being passed and that he was dictating his will to them. And they decided to play Stalin.
              In the morning before the next meeting, Churchill said:
              - Today I had a dream that I became Lord of the World!
              “And I dreamed,” said Roosevelt, “that I became Lord of the Universe!” And what did you dream of, Marshal Stalin?
              “And I dreamed,” Stalin answered leisurely, “that I did not confirm either you, Mr. Churchill, or you, Mr. Roosevelt.”
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                1. -25
                  21 December 2018 09: 48
                  The USSR was ...

                  Of course it was wassat
                  And the coffee was

                  ... based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix code, that is, social justice and ethics of conscience ...
                  .
                  Blah blah blah...
                  The communists destroyed the church, but during the flight they changed their shoes and the Orthodox foundations of the Russian society were passed off as a "matrix code" and similar crap.

                  Stalin just ruled as an autocrat.
                  Our people lived with the king in their hearts and accepted Stalin as the next ruler. Let the impostor, but he stopped the collapse of Russia.
                  1. -29
                    21 December 2018 13: 16
                    Quote: For example
                    Stalin just ruled as an autocrat.

                    No, Dzhugashvili was not an autocrat. He was the owner. Everything and everything in the USSR, including people. This is somewhat different. A more relict state of society than autocracy.
                    A kind of analogue of autocracy, but in its own way, was "Soviet power". But this period did not last long, less than 10 years.
                  2. +1
                    21 December 2018 17: 55
                    Quote: For example
                    And the coffee was

                    According to the rules of the Russian language, "coffee" is neuter. I found out myself relatively recently ...
                    1. 0
                      22 December 2018 09: 25
                      And the masculine gender is a distorted "coffee". I was shocked myself ...
                      1. 0
                        22 December 2018 15: 06
                        Quote: Rostislav Prokopenko
                        And the masculine gender is a distorted "coffee". I was shocked myself ...

                        Actually "kofiy" (male) was the original name of the drink.
                        This is "coffee" - "distorted".
                    2. +2
                      22 December 2018 14: 55
                      Quote: McAr
                      Quote: For example
                      And the coffee was

                      According to the rules of the Russian language, "coffee" is neuter. I found out myself relatively recently ...

                      Quite right. This "norm" (and not only for "coffee") was legalized by the "Order of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation of 08.06.2009 N 195 of June 8, 2009". signed by Minister Fursenko.
                      https://www.mk.ru/social/article/2009/08/31/343231-kofe-stal-srednego-roda.html
                      Shl. It is a pity that this minister did not issue an order allowing to decline "his surname".
                      ZY.ZY. "Literary bike" about what kind of word "coffee"
                      1. Short version-joke
                      A long time ago, back in Soviet times, a barmaid from the Moscow House of Writers complained to her friend: "How illiterate they are, these writers! They come up and ask:" Give one coffee, give one coffee! ". Only Rasul Gamzatov always says:" Mne adyn coffee! ". And then he adds:" And adyn bun! ".
                      Coffee is a masculine and neuter gender. The masculine gender is a strict literary norm, the middle gender is permissible colloquial use.

                      2. "Full" version - "Rasul Gamzatov, bun and coffee."
                      http://www.moidagestan.ru/blogs/43050/31873
                      1. -1
                        22 December 2018 15: 07
                        Quote: Freeman
                        Quite right. This "norm" (and not only for "coffee") was legalized by the "Order of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation of 08.06.2009 N 195 of June 8, 2009". signed by Minister Fursenko.
                        https://www.mk.ru/social/article/2009/08/31/343231-kofe-stal-srednego-roda.html
                        Shl. It is a pity that this minister did not issue an order allowing to decline "his surname".

                        The word "coffee" comes from German. A rare case with the family. According to German rules, "coffee" is masculine. According to the rules of the Russian language, all nouns ending in O or E of the neuter gender: field, grief, sea, eye, coat, etc.

                        So this question is not to Fursenko, but to the previous linguists.

                        PS. If for every borrowed word to keep all its overseas rules, will it not be bold?
                      2. +1
                        22 December 2018 15: 26
                        Quote: McAr
                        Quote: Freeman
                        Quite right. This "norm" (and not only for "coffee") was legalized by the "Order of the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation of 08.06.2009 N 195 of June 8, 2009". signed by Minister Fursenko.
                        https://www.mk.ru/social/article/2009/08/31/343231-kofe-stal-srednego-roda.html
                        Shl. It is a pity that this minister did not issue an order allowing to decline "his surname".

                        The word "coffee" comes from German. A rare case with the family. According to German rules, "coffee" is masculine. According to the rules of the Russian language, all nouns ending in O or E of the neuter gender: field, grief, sea, eye, coat, etc.

                        So this question is not to Fursenko, but to the previous linguists.

                        PS. If for every borrowed word to keep all its overseas rules, will it not be bold?

                        But any "rule" is valuable "exceptions". So after all and on "surzhik" we will pass.
                        Shl. I am not a grammar-nazi. Me too

                        lol
                      3. -1
                        22 December 2018 15: 43
                        Quote: Freeman
                        But any "rule" is valuable "exceptions".

                        There is no reason or field for exclusion. Except one thing - so Tsar Peter wanted.

                        Quote: Freeman
                        So after all and on "surzhik" we will pass.

                        So already crossed.

                        If the teenager from the 80s is moved nowadays, he will not understand his peers. Check, loot, use, crazy, coachman, traffic, loser, release, flashback, interface, content, trend, podcast, casting, gadget and another car with a cart like that. None of this was in the speech quite recently. So the language of youth in all respects is surzhik.
                      4. +1
                        22 December 2018 16: 15
                        McAr (Alexander) Today, 15:43
                        So the language of youth in all respects is surzhik.

                        Youth "slang", at all times was "incomprehensible" to the older generation.
                        He "lived and developed" according to the "trends of the times."
                        60-e
                        “Yesterday we were hobbling along Broadway, one of my sidekicks promised shuyahs on porridge and drove about the cauldrons about the boilers, but it wasn’t lucky - he threw the frakers, having brought some sort of Riga together. There were maniacs, we decided to go to Aist, so there the redneck raised a squeal because of my baruche. They couldn’t come to me in the hut: laces in a glass. Let's go to her. They listened to the pile of bones, posted them, clambered over, there wasn’t any mood for rampant, and we got into it. ”
                        70-e
                        "When my policy haer drank my head, I punched for a civilized man for a long time. Even my ancestors approved of my face, they would have started a soviet outfit, they would have caught glitches from the buzz. But such jokes were thrown at me, I somehow felt like a fakman without a hirat. my then at first joked at me, then skipped altogether. ”I walked dead, sat like a drugged, drinch to craze, nothing clung.
                        "80s
                        “Yesterday they broke off at the session, inside there were a cloud of sponges of some kind. I had to take Janis Abaskaitis’s sister on Gogol. Askali, here the birch rowed up. Well, I stumbled upon Lyuberov. Then everything went to the sister. , one acquaintance was just hanging out with an iron, entered it in, gave 20 bucks on loan. And in the morning, stop on M2. "
                        90-e
                        “At first there were bulls roofing the stall, and everything was fine. Then some losers with fart came to them at the arrow, and both of them were put on red. After that, the breeders sent some honest kid, and what? , in life he became seethed in a year, the jacks were covered, the bablos began to suck in three throats. Cormorant, in a word, harshly. Even the garbage began to endure such a mess, they closed the question with him

                        Although some "turnovers" were fixed, many died out completely.
                  3. +1
                    24 December 2018 21: 52
                    Yes, the communists destroyed the church. But have you ever wondered why they did it?
                    Or, in your opinion, just like that, out of a whim?
                    And this was done based on the needs of a young country.
                    In fact, under tsarism, the church was a state in the state, had an influence on the minds and mood of ordinary people, which were the majority. And Stalin, as a former seminarian, understood this perfectly.
                    Tell me, who will tolerate a second power in a country that is on the edge of the abyss?
                    And what would happen if they left the church and the faith, which could at any moment go against the new government?
                    Civil war again?
                    Blood again, murders?
                    But at that time there was no other force, except for the Bolsheviks, who would be for Russia, and not for turning it into a colony of the West.
                    The intelligentsia at that time (as well as the current one) literally bowed to all the Westerners. Was there any confidence that they would not put Russia at the feet of their idols?
                    But nevertheless, Stalin, composing the moral code of the builders of communism, took a lot from the biblical commandments.
                    My grandmother at that time was a teacher in a parish school. As she spoke with the priest on this topic, Ion told her that the Bolsheviks did not cancel the faith, they just gave her a different name and slightly adapted to the new time.
                    .
              2. +12
                21 December 2018 09: 38
                Quote: Tatiana
                At the Tehran Conference

                Far from the northern ruins
                Blue Tehran burns.
                - What a meeting, Marshal Stalin!
                Sly Churchill says.

                I believe in good omens
                Today I had a dream.
                The leader of the planet
                I was appointed in a dream!

                Of course this elevation
                Please do not take it seriously ...
                - Which, right, coincidence,
                - With a smile, Roosevelt said.

                As a sign of our meeting unforgettable
                Today I had a dream.
                Leader of the universe
                I was appointed in a dream!

                Thinking, Stalin was not embarrassed,
                Slowly lit up the pipe:
                - I also had a dream today
                - I have not approved anyone!
                1. 0
                  22 December 2018 14: 58
                  Quote: Claymore
                  Quote: Tatyana At the Tehran Conference
                  Far from the northern ruins
                  Blue Tehran burns.
                  - What a meeting, Marshal Stalin!
                  Sly Churchill says.
                  ………… ...

                  Claymore! Bravo! good Only modern Lermontov could write like that! Yes
              3. +6
                21 December 2018 09: 43
                Quote: Tatiana
                excellent approving jokes went about people about Stalin.

                And there were more poems and songs. Here is one of them. Wrote by Mikhail Isakovsky - Song of Stalin:
                (https://rustih.ru/mixail-isakovskij-pesnya-o-staline/)

                The fertile steppes make noise
                Rich rivers flow
                Spring Dawns Sparkle
                Over our happy housing.
                Sing, comrades, a song
                About the biggest man
                About the most dear and beloved, -
                We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

                He led us into a battle with enemies -
                For happiness, for a share to fight,
                He poured vigor and strength into us
                On the glorious battle path.
                Sing, comrades, a song
                About the biggest commander,
                About the most fearless and powerful
                We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

                The boundaries of the Union of Soviets
                He covered black ravens
                Wore them with concrete and stone
                And flooded with cast iron.
                Sing, comrades, a song
                About the greatest watchman
                Who sees and hears everything, -
                We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

                Like the springtime sun
                He goes around his native land,
                He grows courage and joy
                In his own garden.
                Sing, comrades, a song
                About the biggest gardener
                About the most beloved and wise, -
                We’ll sing a song about Stalin.

                He created for the happiness of peoples
                Unbreakable law forever
                Spring clear dawns
                He lit over our housing.
                Sing, comrades, a song
                About the dearest person
                About the sun, about the truth of nations -
                We’ll sing a song about Stalin.
                1. +9
                  21 December 2018 16: 29
                  Quote: solzh
                  And there were more poems and songs.
                  Yes. And the people knew about com and about than Soviet songs were composed and sang them!

                  Artillery March (Stalin gave the order)

                  MARCH OF ARTILLERS
                  V. M. Gusev Original text of the 1943 of the year

                  CHORUS:
                  Gunners, Stalin gave the order!
                  Artillerymen, calling the Motherland of us!
                  Of hundreds of thousands of batteries
                  For the tears of our mothers,
                  For our Motherland - fire, fire!

                  .....
                  The hour of victory will strike, the campaign will end
                  But before you go to your family’s homes,
                  In honor of our Leader, in honor of our people
                  We will give a salute in the victorious hour!


                  March of Soviet tankmen (Armor is strong and our tanks are fast) - from the movie "Tractor drivers" (1939 years release)

                  CHORUS
                  Thundering with fire, sparkling with the brilliance of steel,
                  The cars will go on a furious campaign,
                  When comrade Stalin sends us into battle,
                  And the first marshal will lead us to battle!
                  1. +3
                    21 December 2018 16: 44
                    Soon 71 years ago as the bloodiest war in human history ended.
                    Nevertheless, historians, surviving witnesses of those terrible years and their descendants are still trying to understand whether everything was done in order to prevent a war.
                    In particular, the was there an anti-Stalinist conspiracy in the army before the war, and who was responsible for the deaths of millions of people in its first months?
                    And no less interesting are the questions how Generalissimo Stalin was preparing for war and at what cost he came to the grand victory of the Soviet Union.

                    This documentary-analytical film will tell about the role of Stalin in the victory over German and West European fascism.

                    Joseph Stalin - When comrade Stalin sends us into battle. Published: 18 Nov 2015
                    1. -12
                      22 December 2018 15: 33
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      he came to the grand victory of the Soviet Union.

                      Dzhugashvili came to the victory of the USSR. Twisted steeper than a pig’s tail.
                      And then, you might think that only the USSR came to Victory. The anti-Hitler coalition consisted of 53 states. And these are all winners of the Axis, by the way.
                      However, only in Europe there were four main winners.
                      1. +2
                        25 December 2018 04: 50
                        But History, all the same, would not be bad to know.
                        On June 24, 1941, two days after the aggression of Nazi Germany against the USSR, the future US President Harry Truman published an article in the New York Times, which included the following passage: “If we see that Germany is winning, then we should help Russia, and if Russia wins, then we should help Germany. "
                        They sat in the bushes until the summer of 1944. Moreover, they were ready to conclude a separate peace with Hitler behind the back of the USSR, weapons were left to the captured Germans. Where does the loss come from? - the Germans threw all their forces to the east and our "allies" rolled in their jeeps and dodges almost without encountering resistance. And in general, the presence of such an abundance of "gifted" commentators once again confirms how serious goals the West, beaten and defeated before Russia, sets itself for itself more than once. Frivolity with such "partners" is too expensive a pleasure.
                      2. 0
                        26 December 2018 08: 55
                        back to school you have very outdated information about the course of the Second World War. We were all taught from the wrong textbooks and the wrong teachers!
            2. -8
              21 December 2018 09: 59
              Quote: nils
              In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

              - you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....
              1. +12
                21 December 2018 11: 36
                Quote: your1970
                you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth.

                You’ll empty the shops now, they’ll come out in an instant
                Quote: your1970
                and old and mature and youth ..
                1. -4
                  21 December 2018 13: 35
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  You’ll empty the shops now, they’ll come out in an instant
                  -so then there were
                  Quote: nils
                  free apartments, hospitals, holiday homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities
                  ,not?
                  1. +7
                    21 December 2018 13: 48
                    Quote: your1970
                    free apartments, hospitals, holiday homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities

                    Yes. You won't be full of a free apartment. Only the deficit is rather strange. For example, tobacco. When Yeltsin closed 26 tobacco factories for repairs. I am sure that now, if such a deficit had arisen, the matter would not have been limited to the three dead defenders of the White House, they would have gone to smash everything, and not at a demonstration with the slogans "billions of United Russia to the people." By the way, in our city, on the square, there were at most 20 people with a poster "Down with the State Emergency Committee". And that's all.
                    1. +11
                      21 December 2018 17: 06
                      Quote: your1970
                      Quote: nils
                      In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

                      - you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....

                      This is a snapshot of the reign of Mishka Gorbachev in the USSR with his so-called. "new thinking". The snapshot is, presumably, 1989-1991.
                      You cannot sophistically replace historical times and deliberately demagogically confuse them with each other and swap them in your political propaganda!

                      And where does the time of Stalin appear in the picture?
                      Do not confuse Stalin's "God's gift" with Gorbachev's "fabirzhe"!

                      USSR: Commodity shortage (video chronicle 1989-91)
                      1. +3
                        22 December 2018 16: 39
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        USSR: Commodity shortage (video chronicle 1989-91)

                        all these chronicles of the perestroika period are Custom. At that time, it was possible to show and say all the bad and that contributes to the collapse, but it was impossible to categorically offer At least save something from Socialism!
                    2. -5
                      22 December 2018 11: 53
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Yes. You won’t be fed up with a free apartment.

                      how else to explain? !!!!
                      In the days of the USSR there was everything - nevertheless they stood and demanded "Billions of the CPSU-people!", "We want to eat!"
                      Now everything is different (power, system, money, country) - and the slogans are the same: "Billions of Chubais - to the people!", "We want to eat!"
                      Deja vu .....
                      1. +2
                        22 December 2018 16: 35
                        Quote: your1970
                        In Soviet times, there was everything

                        The USSR in different years is a different country. I see only one way - it is a criminal liability for unfulfilled promises of politicians!
                      2. 0
                        25 December 2018 21: 53
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Quote: your1970
                        In Soviet times, there was everything

                        The USSR in different years is a different country. I see only one way - it is a criminal liability for unfulfilled promises of politicians!
                        -and you will find a lot of wanting a criminal?
                      3. 0
                        26 December 2018 08: 57
                        want to eat again?
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              3. +8
                21 December 2018 18: 31
                Quote: your1970
                you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....


                what are the differences?
              4. +1
                21 December 2018 20: 25
                And what do you want the transition from socialism to capitalism.
                1. wax
                  +4
                  22 December 2018 23: 34
                  What capitalism? American? So for this you need to throw a noose around the world. Haitian? Well, here we look quite worthy. And how long will the transition period last if hundreds of billions of dollars flow to the West each year?
                  1. -1
                    23 December 2018 00: 34
                    Quote: Wax
                    To Haitian?

                    Haitian capitalism does not exist.
                    And in general, there are not many capitalist countries in the world. It is only out of ignorance that all countries are called capitalist.
                    1. wax
                      0
                      20 January 2019 23: 30
                      There is no Haitian capitalism, of course, as well as English. There is capitalism, and there is the leading capitalist country - America. And it is she who determines the development of other countries. Therefore, the meaning of my hyperbole is that we are not destined for a place according to those dreams that we are developing into capitalism, as in America. By the way, the lag behind America is not decreasing, as it was under the USSR before the 80s, but is increasing, since we have a lower percentage of GDP growth over the years with a lower GDP. So where will the "transition from socialism to capitalism" lead us?
                2. -2
                  23 December 2018 00: 32
                  Quote: naidas
                  And what do you want the transition from socialism to capitalism.

                  The transition from socialism to capitalism is called feudalism. And this is for a long time, the whole formation in all its stages.
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2018 08: 59
                    The transition from socialism to capitalism is called feudalism.

                    this is something new in history. is it being taught that way now?
              5. 0
                22 December 2018 16: 42
                Quote: your1970
                you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....

                And what are united and identical. Now others. Mavericks. But essentially the same fooled as we are now
              6. 0
                25 December 2018 20: 45
                Quote: your1970
                Quote: nils
                In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest homes, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities, but there were not enough bananas. Thank God these dark times are behind, and now everyone has enough bananas.

                - you look at the faces: there are both old and mature and youth ....

                You look into the madhouse - there are old and mature, and young people.
            3. +2
              21 December 2018 11: 10
              penultimate joke - very good !!!!!!
            4. -26
              21 December 2018 13: 59
              Quote: nils
              In the USSR there were free apartments, hospitals, rest houses, motels, kindergartens, pioneer camps, universities,

              The faith of loafers in a freebie is sacred. She is unshakable, like a monument. Like a monument to stupidity.
              Loafers cannot understand the simple truth, nothing is ever free. If someone gives them something and it is not clear why they give it with one hand, you need to carefully monitor his second hand. In the vast majority of cases, you can see a lot of interesting things.
              1. +24
                21 December 2018 14: 24
                Quote: tyyt
                The faith of loafers in a freebie is sacred. She is unshakable, like a monument. Like a monument to stupidity.
                Loafers cannot understand the simple truth, nothing is ever free. If someone gives them something and it is not clear why they give it with one hand, you need to carefully monitor his second hand. In the vast majority of cases, you can see a lot of interesting things.

                Loafers are the whole working country, and a freebie built, earned by these people and transferred to them.
                And what you have earned is obviously modern wealth. Tell me, maybe, how hard honest work have they earned? And then no such example immediately comes to mind. All somehow others climb into the head ...
                1. -32
                  21 December 2018 14: 29
                  Quote: victor50
                  Loafers are the whole working country, and a freebie built, earned by these people and transferred to them.

                  And what has the "working country" built in 7 years? Didn't build anything. They ponadlated a hole in the ground and lived from the exhaust from there. That's all of their "buildings".
                  And what was really built, so then it was necessary to cut it into metal and sell it. Because no one needed the products of these "industries". While there was no choice, this "product" was bought. How the choice appeared - these "production" in the furnace.
                  1. Alf
                    +18
                    21 December 2018 19: 12
                    Quote: tyyt
                    Because no one needed the products of these "industries".

                    Yes, yes, but the products of current plants are torn off with their hands. Where to find these plants ...
                  2. +5
                    22 December 2018 16: 29
                    Quote: tyyt
                    And what has the "working country" built in 7 years? Didn't build anything. They ponadlated a hole in the ground and lived from the exhaust from there. That's all of their "buildings".

                    built a lot of things. And she sold a lot, but not consumer goods but industrial products. Well, 200 million can not be completely self-sufficient and even the best in everything! In addition, Khrushchev braked a lot, created a brake system, and off ...
                    1. -14
                      22 December 2018 16: 42
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      built a lot of things

                      It’s easy to build. It is difficult to build what will produce products that are in demand IN THE OUTDOOR MARKET. But with this, the USSR was bad.
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      And she sold a lot, but not consumer goods but industrial products.

                      You are confusing the terms "sell" and "ship". A lot of things were shipped on credit. Nobody ever planned to repay those debts.
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      In addition, Khrushchev braked a lot, created a brake system, and off ...

                      You must go to Khrushchev’s grave every day and wear flowers there. Because he pushed through a 20-year development program for the oil and gas industry. And it was about this that he said that in 20 years our children will live under communism
                      If not for his program, the USSR would have collapsed as early as the 70s. Maximum, in the 80s.
                      And today, Russia is largely fed the outcome of that program.

                      Missiles, and the nuclear shield of the USSR as a whole, is his doing. The incompetent Dzhugashvili paid almost no attention to missiles; he made bombers. Which did not even have a theoretical opportunity to fly to the United States.
                      1. wax
                        +5
                        22 December 2018 23: 46
                        Khrushchev adopted a country that had great inertial power and continued to carry out space and nuclear programs not because of, but contrary to ... And how many major economic projects were closed almost immediately, because they were just planned.
                      2. -9
                        23 December 2018 00: 31
                        Quote: Wax
                        Khrushchev adopted a country that had great inertial force

                        Khrushchev took over the country, every 10 years (at least) interrupting from hunger to hunger. The last famine was in 1946. Dzhugashvili died in 1953. Khrushchev was able to avoid starvation in the 50s and 60s. Only for this he needs to put a monument. In Red Square, instead of the mausoleum.
                      3. +4
                        25 December 2018 00: 31
                        It’s easy to build. It is difficult to build what will produce products that are in demand IN THE OUTDOOR MARKET
                        You probably do not know, but under the USSR on the "open market" Japan bought CNC machines in the USSR, as they wrote in the "Ogonyok" of the "tagged" times, supposedly for scrap metal. It seems they were so heavy that they were only suitable for scrap metal. Aren't you the author of this "fiery" masterpiece?
                        You must go to Khrushchev’s grave every day and wear flowers there.
                        What else should we wear to his grave? If Khrushch had been removed from power under Stalin, the USSR would still be alive. With his exposure of the "personality cult" at the 20th Congress, this shit dealt such a blow to the communist movement around the world, which was not inflicted by all the media and all the propaganda of the capitalist states combined ... And even his army cuts, when he decided, that if there are missiles, then nothing else is needed, neither barrel artillery in the ground forces, nor ships in the navy, this is direct sabotage.
                        Missiles, and the nuclear shield of the USSR as a whole, this is his doing
                        Seriously? The work of his hands? Yes, you are simply ignorant ... Read books, maybe your mind will increase ... The atomic bomb was created under Stalin in 1949, the first satellite was launched in 1957, 4 years after Stalin's death, and the work on the development of ICBMs with the help of which the satellite was launched, they were launched back in 1946, even under Stalin under the leadership of the Korolev, maybe they heard that name? It is to your passage that
                        The incompetent Dzhugashvili paid almost no attention to missiles, he made bombers.
                        Yes, and the entire industry of mass housing construction, the foundation of all these "Khrushchev" was also laid under Stalin, Khrushchev only took advantage of its fruits. For what you can
                        every day they should go to Khrushchev’s grave and wear flowers there
                        so this is for the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine, his "epic" deed is still hiccupped by millions of people ...
                        So do not demonstrate your deep "historical" knowledge, do not disgrace ...
                      4. 0
                        25 December 2018 21: 52
                        Quote: AnderS
                        even under Stalin under the leadership of the Korolev, maybe they heard that name? It is to your passage that
                        Is it for sabotage under Stalin that both jaws broke?
                      5. 0
                        26 December 2018 09: 01
                        and by the way, our consumer goods (washing machines, refrigerators, etc.) have served for decades and not just for three years now ..
                      6. 0
                        26 December 2018 09: 28
                        Quote: Rey_ka

                        and by the way, our consumer goods (washing machines, refrigerators, etc.) have served for decades and not just for three years now ..
                        -After 2 world crises (1998 and 2008) everyone began to do things with a short term of use, ALL, the whole world
                  3. wax
                    +6
                    22 December 2018 23: 38
                    The USSR was a country on which all working humanity looked with hope and which all non-working people hated.
                    1. -8
                      23 December 2018 00: 28
                      Quote: Wax
                      The USSR was a country on which all working humanity looked with hope and which all non-working people hated.

                      Humanity sneezed, what worked, what rested, wanted in the USSR. The USSR was needed only by such odious personalities as Kim and Castro.
                  4. +1
                    24 December 2018 22: 58
                    No one needed?
                    And you generally know that motorcycles with a sidecar "Ural" are still exported to all countries of the world. They are bought by the USA, Germany, Japan, China, Australia, Canada and other countries. And in the days of the USSR, a lot of things went for export. These are electricity, mineral fertilizers, engineering products, cotton fabrics, etc.
        2. +18
          21 December 2018 07: 34
          The only way out was to create a new society, state and civilization based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix code, that is, social justice and the ethics of conscience. This is the essence of the phenomenon of Stalin and the new wave of his popularity in modern Russia. - from article

          This exit of social justice and ethics of conscience - socialism for Russia and Russian civilization is now the only option for development!
          The current liberal government, represented by the incumbent President Putin, does not consider the possibility of restoring socialism and social justice for the people in Russia to be real, as Putin announced at the last conference on December 20, 2018.

          But in vain. The whole history of Russia claims that a socially unjust Russia is unacceptable for the people, and inevitably power in such a state will be removed from government. The whole question is whether it will be produced peacefully or armed. I would like to be peaceful without violence and blood.
          We already have examples of a peaceful transition of power from liberals to parties and social justice movements: Communist governors are elected in the Irkutsk, Orel regions, Khakassia, and Novosibirsk.
          The peace transition movement is growing, the liberal party of United Russia everywhere is losing more or less fair elections, more and more resorting to direct falsification of the elections, to their cancellation. There is an open violation of all the rules of democratic elections, which was especially pronounced in Primorye.

          The power of the capitalists - the oligarchs, bourgeois officials does not want to give up their positions, more and more intensifying the oppression of the people and the plunder of the state, and thereby inevitably exacerbating social and political tension in Russia. It deprives people of basic social rights to pensions, healthcare, education, and providing a more or less tolerable standard of living.
          The pension "reform" approved by Putin is in fact a direct genocide of the people - people aged 50 - 70 are actually left without work in the conditions of the collapse of industry and agriculture, and, accordingly, earnings, and now also pensions, which have been attributed to a later date. The announced period for retirement at 60 - 65 years for women and men, in the conditions for many of the impossibility of earning work experience (notorious points), transfers people to receive a social pension, assigned respectively at 68 - 70 years. How many people will be able to live up to that age and receive a pension with poor-quality food, a paid healthcare system, in harsh climatic conditions? Tens of millions will not survive.

          The question of a change of liberal capitalist power in Russia in such conditions of social and political crises is a question of the near future. It is up to people to finally realize that oligarchic capitalism and their power only bring poverty, death and destruction to Russia to the people.
          1. -25
            21 December 2018 14: 39
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Socialism for Russia and Russian civilization is now the only option for development!

            The Bolsheviks began by cutting or squeezing out almost all of the Russians abroad. And now the full-time praise of the Bolsheviks recommend that modern Russians follow the ideas of their most fierce (and now only ideological) enemies, the Bolsheviks.
            It’s just not getting into any gates. Such impudence and cynicism can be expected, probably, only from this public. You will not find others like that.
            1. +3
              21 December 2018 20: 28
              Quote: tyyt
              The Bolsheviks began by cutting or squeezing out almost all of the Russians abroad.

              Indeed, one more Nerus remained, not squeezed out by the Bolsheviks.
        3. wax
          0
          22 December 2018 23: 28
          Post-socialist Ukraine has made a particularly big breakthrough.
      2. +15
        21 December 2018 11: 19
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        because now we are only fed with promises of "breakthroughs" and "ups" ..
        Andrey Yuryevich, yesterday, at the press conference of our president, two topics made a strong impression on me personally. The first thing that the lafa ends, it is necessary to prepare a new breakthrough, as was the case with Peter I and Stalin. Second, our president does not see the possibility of the return of socialism to Russia. According to the new "breakthrough", it turns out that everyone who survived as best they could in the dashing 90s, who had to go through all the "optimizations" and "mergers", played the fool, relaxed ... Having received a superpower, the new "bourgeois" ate Soviet reserves , destroyed many enterprises, design bureaus, scientific research institutes, and now we must be able to jump high out of our pants, being under the master of world capitalism, being in a foreign system, a foreign pole. Apparently, they decided to build "parallel capitalism". We have no colonies, which means that we are supposed to exploit our own people. About the impossibility of returning to socialism ... There are no former communists, if they were real communists, the idea is not a shirt, today is red, tomorrow is blue, the idea is forever. Without socialism, we will not only fail to win, but also not survive. The Soviet margin of safety is coming to an end, and the oligarch brothers, like their "effective managers", are more interested in what brings immediate profit here and now. What did they put in health care, education, science? Everywhere loot, it has already become the norm on TV channels for children to collect money for operations ... And what can we expect without socialism? The money of our powers that be lies in foreign currency and foreign banks, all their treasures are under the control of a potential adversary, and will they bite his "feeding hand"? It seems that the collapse of all these bad boys is inevitable and natural, these bad people will betray us, their country, at the first danger, and do not have time to betray, run away, so screw up. After that, socialism will return.
        1. +2
          21 December 2018 20: 34
          Quote: Per se.
          Brothers-oligarchs, like their "effective managers", are more interested in what brings immediate profit here and now.

          I suppose that you underestimate these guys. Since the destruction of the Union, they are trying to merge with the world elite (for this they destroyed the USSR). And while the elite will be preparing outside the country (elite children are being prepared in the west) there will be no breakthroughs.
      3. 0
        22 December 2018 16: 24
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        because now we are only fed with promises of "breakthroughs" and "ups" ..

        we have DIGITAL ECONOMY and therefore fed by NUMBERS laughing
      4. +3
        22 December 2018 22: 17
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Stalin began to build the empire of the future, super-civilization and a new society of knowledge, service and creation.

        Today is 140 years since the birth of I.V. Stalin.

        how often we began to remember Joseph Vissarionovich ... after all, now we are only fed with promises of "breakthroughs" and "ups" ..

        The right person is not a sin to remember.
        And yes. He is a genius. He saved Russia from destruction. And he stopped the genocide of the Russian people that Zionofashists staged
    2. +15
      21 December 2018 09: 19
      Modern Russia needs Stalin .. otherwise Khan ..
      1. +2
        21 December 2018 09: 59
        Quote: Svarog
        Modern Russia needs Stalin .. otherwise Khan ..

        Hmm ... And what would the conditional Stalin do in modern Russia, under the conditions of feudal capitalism, when the country ideologically is not even in the times of the Ivanovo-Voznesensk strike of 1905, but somewhere in the times of Radishchev, when he traveled from Petersburg to Moscow? Probably, I would start organizing a Marxist circle of reading Capital at some factory or factory.

        Do you want to know what the minimum is needed for the conventional Stalin to "shoot"?
        From 18 minutes:
        1. -12
          21 December 2018 12: 01
          An excellent example of the propaganda of the 5th column. Thank you, Alexander, for this video. For "take away and divide everything" Semin is probably responsible on our TV. A boy from a completely prosperous family whose father was a deputy of the Yekaterinburg Duma from 1994 to 2001 decided to become a revolutionary. In principle, it is not difficult - the main thing is to promise everything at once! And land and factories and freedom ... It already happened. In 1917. Dali? For clarity, look at the Trotskyist speeches of the Maidan revolutionaries - word for word! Semin does not know what the Russian world is! He laughs at Stolypin's thoughts about the greatness of Russia! Semin is a globalist who naturally calls it internationalism. The word patriot is a dirty word for him. Here are his words - "... and Russian patriots keep up with their international partners, they are also ready at the first opportunity to make happy those who still doubt whether Russia should become great again." This is bad for Semin. Patriotism is bad, internationalism, globalism is good!
          1. +3
            21 December 2018 15: 49
            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            A wonderful example of the propaganda of the 5th column.

            It all depends on who you play. Are you for the exploiters?

            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            For "take away and divide everything" Semin is probably responsible on our TV.

            They were taken from the people and divided among themselves by the oligarchs in the 90s. But Semin for taking away from the bourgeoisie and uniting for the people.

            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            A boy from a completely prosperous family whose father was a deputy of the Yekaterinburg Duma from 1994 to 2001 decided to become a revolutionary.

            Lenin was a nobleman at all, so what?

            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            In principle, this is not difficult - the main thing is to promise everything at once!

            I have never heard from Semin about "everything at once". On the contrary, I heard. Not confused with anyone?

            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            Semin does not know what the Russian world is! Laughs at Stolypin’s thoughts

            Stolypin a century ago, people did not like. Probably did not know what the Russian world is.

            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            The word patriot is abusive to him.

            The biggest patriots are Chubais, Abramovich, and another gop company.
            1. +2
              21 December 2018 20: 03
              For the sake of objectivity .. need an IDEA. Which will unite and encourage each of us "not sparing his belly" to do something. Otherwise, everything is useless. And we have a problem with the ideological inspirers ... or the time has not come yet.
              1. +2
                21 December 2018 20: 33
                Quote: Free man
                need an IDEA. Which will unite and move each of us "not sparing his belly" to do something. Otherwise, everything is useless.

                There is no such idea. At least for today's Russia.

                Society is split into two camps. Some play or cheer for the bourgeois class of exploiters, others play or cheer for the proletarian class of the exploited. It would seem that there should be more second ones, because the proletarians in the country are under 90%. However, a considerable part of those who are severely exploited continue to drown for capitalism. Paradox, but true.

                The bourgeois consciousness and the proletarian are antagonists, which ones to look for - their ideas are oppositely directed. Is it possible to connect plus and minus in a magnet? Can predators and herbivores be combined? Can you mix white with black? And that, and another, and the third is possible, only acceptable nothing will turn out.
    3. -13
      21 December 2018 10: 30
      Samsonov is so straightforward in his assessments ... There were enough people of monarchical views in the white movement. The white movement found strong support among the people, otherwise why were all subsequent repressions needed? This is also confirmed by the numerous uprisings that flared up against the Bolshevik regime throughout the country, which have taken on a truly massive character. The Tambov uprising had the character of a real war. Stalin certainly built a strong and one might say a great state, but at what cost, first of all, for the Russian people ?! Whose state was it? People who, following Samsonov, make a deity out of Stalin refuse to look reality in the eye - the deity was often mistaken! Just as often, these mistakes were fatal and again the Russians paid the main price. If we do not speak now about the actual repressions, then Stalin's main mistake was his ignorance of the numerous information about the impending attack on the USSR by German troops. Richard Sorge generally indicated more than specific information - Stalin remained indifferent. Churchill said about the actions of the leadership of the USSR at that time that there was a complete impression that Stalin did not even suspect about Hitler's long-standing decision to destroy them ... Now many are talking about the "Non-Aggression Pact", which most likely was a forced measure. However, in this case, what is the "Treaty of Friendship and Border Between the USSR and Germany"? What kind of friendship? Especially after the universal sending of communists and other opponents of Nazism to concentration camps? After the Anschluss of Austria and the capture of Czechoslovakia? Not to mention the fact that Stalin brought the war close to the borders of the USSR! Who paid for all this? The Russian people - with blood!
      Bypassing again the repression itself, as this topic is a big one and requires a separate discussion, all the same I would like to ask a question - why did Stalin, for all his Stalinism, allow Trotsky to calmly leave the country? Did this not contribute to the flourishing of Trotskyism in the country with its magnificent color? And did not Trotskyism split the international communist movement, having played its part even in the defeat of the Communists in Spain? Further. Stalin's collectivization took property from the peasants and drove them into collective farms. For the country, this had global consequences in the future. Peasants were virtually destroyed as a class. And the last thing I would like to say now is the completely incomprehensible Stalinist personnel policy. The Bolshevik deity did not leave a successor after itself. Thanks to a completely painful suspicion, Stalin in all saw a threat to his sole power. Molotov was even criticized in which many saw the leader's successor ...
      1. +6
        21 December 2018 11: 25
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        . Richard Sorge indicated generally more than specific information - Stalin remained indifferent.

        Of directive number 1, you certainly have not heard anything.
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        Churchill spoke about the actions of the leadership of the USSR at that time that there was a complete impression that Stalin did not even suspect Hitler's long-accepted decision to destroy them ..

        Interestingly, according to Churchill, it was necessary to do.
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        Now many are talking about the Non-Aggression Pact, which was most likely a forced measure. However, in this case, what is the "Treaty of Friendship and Border Between the USSR and Germany"? What kind of friendship?

        The same Churchill had similar agreements from the 38th year.
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        why did Stalin, with all his Stalinism, allow Trotsky to calmly leave the country?

        Mistake, yes. It was necessary to soak him right away, and not to let him out of the cordon, as one of our oligarch, who had been able to strangle himself with a scarf.
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        Stalin's collectivization took property from the peasants and drove them into collective farms.

        The collective farm is voluntary. It was on the ground that the blockheads were driven away, as Stalin wrote about in "Dizzy with Success."
        You cannot plant collective farms by force. That would be stupid and reactionary. The collective farm movement must rely on the active support of the bulk of the peasantry.
        1. -10
          21 December 2018 12: 34
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Of directive number 1, you certainly have not heard anything.

          This is the one from June 21, 1941 ?! It’s funny. Good joke.
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          The collective farm is voluntary.

          Even funnier!
          So, as a result of these very miscalculations, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Red Army men and commanders heroically died! But those who did not die in these mistakes of the leader naturally and were accused by order of the reddest genius No. 270 and made more traitors to the homeland! Also, families of this category of Red Army fighters were repressed. The genius of red is not otherwise!
          1. +8
            21 December 2018 12: 42
            Laugh on.
            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            But those who did not die in these mistakes of the leader naturally and were accused by order of the reddest genius No. 270 and made more traitors to the homeland! Also, families of this category of Red Army fighters were repressed. The genius of red is not otherwise!

            Is it possible to endure in the ranks of the Red Army cowards who desert to the enemy and surrender to him, or such cowardly bosses who, at the first hitch at the front, tear off the insignia and desert to the rear? No you can not! If these cowards and deserters are given free rein, they will in a short time decompose our army and ruin our Motherland. Cowards and deserters must be destroyed.
            1. -17
              21 December 2018 12: 55
              Yes, these are your jokes and they are not funny! Tragic for very, very many Russian families subjected to repression because their fathers, husbands, brothers perished in fascist captivity because of such mistakes made by the leader of the peoples and the red genius! What does your Samsonov call it there? Emperor of the Red Empire? Brahman shorter, etc.
              1. +12
                21 December 2018 12: 57
                Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                Tragic for very, very many Russian families subjected to repression because their fathers, husbands, brothers perished in fascist captivity because of such mistakes made by the leader of the peoples and the red genius!

                My grandfather was in captivity since 42 years. On release - a fine. No one has arrested his family.
                1. -6
                  21 December 2018 14: 36
                  Read the order carefully.
                  1. +7
                    21 December 2018 15: 18
                    Read the link below carefully. Or find me the number of families of Red Army fighters arrested by this order.
                    1. -10
                      21 December 2018 15: 24
                      You yourself can easily find both the numbers of the repressed and specific surnames and individual cases. What do you mean "find me?" Be more modest.
                      1. +8
                        21 December 2018 15: 34
                        Quote: Halado romane
                        What do you mean "find me?" Be more modest.

                        That means that you will find the hell of those arrested on this order. Almost all of them fell into the "missing" column. Can you imagine what it means to arrest families of more than 4,5 million people, Petya Palkin?
                      2. +2
                        21 December 2018 15: 50
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Can you imagine what it means to arrest families of more than 4,5 million people, Palkin Petya?

                        Then I lied. Only the families of commanders and political workers were ordered. In general, look for the info yourself, I'm not the Information Bureau.
                        Quote: atos_kin
                        learn to look at different sources of information. Perhaps your ignorance will disappear.
                      3. -8
                        21 December 2018 20: 57
                        No Mordvin. I will name it. And the name is well-known. General Ponedelin. Deceived personally by Stalin in his vile order. The father of the "enemy of the people" Grigory Vasilyevich was sent to the Kineshemskaya prison where he tragically ended his days. Was killed by criminals. Wouldn't betray his homeland who was taken prisoner in hand-to-hand combat and knowing that he was sentenced to death in absentia did not go to the service of the Americans but returned to his homeland, for which he was shot how could the leader admit his mistakes? I also inform you that after the war such heroic generals as Artemenko, Kirillov, Beleshev, Krupennikov, Sivaev, brigade commander Lazutin were shot ... Stalin did not need witnesses of his mediocrity! You seem terrified how you want to return those times? You will interrupt!
                      4. wax
                        0
                        23 December 2018 00: 02
                        The most important witnesses are Zhukov, Rokossovsky, Vasilevsky, Timoshenko, Govorov, Konev, Malinovsky, Kuznetsov, Golovanov, Eremenko, Chuykov, Gorbatov, Bagramyan, Antonov, Tolbukhin, Rotmistrov, Meretskov, Rybalko, Shaposhnikov, Kazakov, Novikov and thousands of others.
                2. +8
                  21 December 2018 20: 07
                  .
                  My grandfather was in captivity since 42 years. On release - a fine. No one has arrested his family

                  My great-grandfather served from 37 to 47 years old .... He died in 1978. He always said - Stalin did the right thing, it was impossible otherwise, otherwise there would have been a mess at all. For what he served, he himself was to blame, there was nothing to grind with his tongue with anyone
            2. -8
              21 December 2018 13: 12
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Is it possible to endure in the ranks of the Red Army cowards who desert to the enemy and surrender to him, or such cowardly bosses who, at the first hitch at the front, tear off the insignia and desert to the rear? No you can not! If these cowards and deserters are given free rein, they will in a short time decompose our army and ruin our Motherland. Cowards and deserters must be destroyed.

              The number of prisoners in terms of exact numbers is still not known! Various sources give figures from 2.5 to 4 million Soviet prisoners of war during the 1941 war. Aren't there too many cowards and alarmists for an army of soldiers whose soldiers will pass through all of Europe and take Berlin, and then also destroy the Kwantung Japanese army ?! How many of these guys fought out of the encirclement? Killed when captured in German dungeons? How many more of their remains are being found and still will be found by search detachments in our forests and fields ... Almost all of the cadre of the Red Army heroically died or ended up in captivity because of such "genius mistakes." And by order 270, a huge part of her turned out to be cowards? Because of such a completely wild blasphemy, such a disregard for their own people who have laid down the bones of our Motherland, the Stalinists have absolutely no future!
              1. +5
                21 December 2018 13: 19
                There was already an analysis of order number 270
                According to official figures, more than 90% of all those released before the end of World War II, after a brief inspection in special filtration camps under the supervision of the NKVD and military counterintelligence, returned safely to their previous service and life.

                https://topwar.ru/31997-o-prikaze-270.html
                1. -9
                  21 December 2018 13: 26
                  Thank. I can imagine how you personally understood ...
                  1. +4
                    21 December 2018 13: 31
                    Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                    I can imagine how you personally understood ...

                    I gave you a link. Is it hard to read? Not imagining anything there.
                    1. +11
                      21 December 2018 13: 59
                      Do not feed the troll. There is no point in arguing with him; he does not know how to think.
                      1. -10
                        21 December 2018 14: 39
                        And that this "troll" did not write correctly about the order 270 of your deity and about the fact that almost the entire personnel of the Red Army was killed because of his mistakes? Nothing to answer? Well, why, because of your own ignorance, offend a person? Read the order carefully and apologize for your insults!
                      2. +10
                        21 December 2018 15: 35
                        Quote: Halado romane
                        practically the entire personnel Red Army died? Nothing to answer?

                        My grandfather answered, signing the Reichstag.
                        In addition to the ability to read, write and repeat other people's conclusions, learn to look into different sources of information. Perhaps your ignorance will disappear. I’m like a former anti-Stalinist.
                      3. -9
                        21 December 2018 16: 34
                        You know, I also have family experience. And I have something to lean on. You are rude here, give people ratings. This is not a beautiful behavior. Teach your wife the mind.
                      4. +6
                        21 December 2018 16: 40
                        Quote: Halado romane
                        This is not a beautiful behavior. Teach your wife the mind.

                        Say it in front of the mirror. More benefit will be.
                      5. -2
                        21 December 2018 16: 59
                        Especially for you and Mordvin found absolutely easy. All information is freely available. GKO # 1926ss of June 24, 1942 "On members of families of traitors to the motherland", Derektiva of the head of the main department of military tribunals # 003486 of October 26, 1942, ... in order to accelerate the repression of families of traitors to the motherland and deserters ..., Encryption program # 4976 28 September 1941, sent by the commander of the Leningrad front to the Zhukovs of the front armies and the Baltic fleet About the executions of surrendered prisoners and repressions against families ... Read and enjoy. At the same time, the Stalinist leadership did not give a damn that it was their fault that the Red Army men and commanders of the Red Army fought heroically with the enemy and went hand-to-hand to the last patron. The overwhelming majority of them remained faithful to their homeland to the end.
                      6. +1
                        21 December 2018 20: 57
                        Quote: Halado romane
                        Especially for you and Mordvin found absolutely easy. All information is freely available. GKO # 1926ss of June 24, 1942 "On members of families of traitors to the motherland", Derektiva of the head of the main department of military tribunals # 003486 of October 26, 1942, ... in order to accelerate the repression of families of traitors to the motherland and deserters ..., Encryption program # 4976 28 September 1941 sent by the commander of the Leningrad front to the Zhukovs of the front armies and the Baltic fleet About the executions of those who surrendered and reprisals against families ...

                        I asked you to find the number of convicted relatives of officers of the Red Army by order No. 270, and not a cipher program with a directive.
                      7. -7
                        21 December 2018 21: 04
                        And you yourself will carry out such work. I do not like the Memorial society, but they have data on the names of thousands of repressed. Take an interest. I brought you the father of General Ponedelin. For one of him and his son, you can begin to repent for your blasphemous chatter. After the war, Stalin killed many hero generals. Have a look. Ask what happened to their family. Do something good in life. I hope you count. It is not Stalin who will judge you, thank God.
                      8. -7
                        21 December 2018 21: 27
                        Reading now about all this Stalinist lawlessness, I think, Mordvin, what a good time we live in! Difficult but good. I imagine that your god would do with you, write in his time at least a thousandth of the filth that you write about power here !!! And so you are safe and your relatives may not even suspect your work. It is easy to fight the regime like that for Stalin completely impersonal and under a pseudonym. I wish your relatives good health, Mordvin. May something similar to the 270 order, decrees of T-bills and other SHT pass by in their life!
                      9. +5
                        21 December 2018 21: 29
                        Quote: Halado romane
                        I brought you the father of General Ponedelin. For one of him and his son, you can begin to repent for your blasphemous chatter.

                        I will not, I'm an atheist. Say that in vain the photos of Ponedelin were printed on German leaflets? Will we do a debriefing of the actions of the 12th army?
                        Quote: Halado romane
                        Do something good in life. I hope you count.

                        I will definitely not "put on shoes" anybody, don't worry. Although the gypsies "shod" me a couple of times.
                      10. +3
                        21 December 2018 21: 39
                        And further. about families. Personally, I believe that this is a bust, to judge the families of traitors. Nonetheless ... Someone poisoned Skripal's daughter.
                      11. +1
                        22 December 2018 08: 16
                        The vast majority of them remained faithful to their homeland to the end.

                        Well, you’re either our 2-store one or Russia’s faithful to the end, supporting the economy of the Russophobic fascist state of Lithuania.
      2. +8
        21 December 2018 13: 16
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        The White movement found strong support and in the people otherwise why were all subsequent reprisals necessary?
        I wonder if you turn, but there was no white terror and repression from whites, from the fact that "white" and "fluffy"? Well, let's say there were no Bolsheviks, 1917 came, Nicholas II, abdicates the throne, moreover, under pressure from his own inner circle. The February Revolution is taking place, the Provisional Government is in power, the proposed changes are an increase in the influence of the West. Simply put, we get Yeltsin, Chubais and Gaidar not in 1991, with a space and nuclear superpower, but in 1917, in a semi-literate, war-weakened country, with an economy dependent on the West, and with debts on loans. And there is no need for hypocrisy with demagoguery, in this scenario, and without the Civil War, Russia would have come to an end, it would have been torn to pieces. Actually, the First World War was started in order to determine the leader and master of the world capitalist system. It was not for this that the German, Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman and Russian empires were brought down, so that pro-Western Russia would remain a potential threat to the Anglo-Saxons, so that Russia would be helped and allowed to rise. That's the whole story. Only the emergence of an independent social system allowed Russia not only to survive, but also to become a superpower, and this is the merit of the communists and socialism. Without the return of socialism, and the current Russian bourgeoisie will not have long left, the Soviet reserve of strength will end, and they will no longer have to inflate their cheeks, and they have not given birth to anything of their own for the revival of the superpower, and they cannot give birth, being dependent on those who have their money, being tied by other people's rules, was not invented for the good of Russia.
        1. -9
          21 December 2018 13: 31
          Quote: Per se.
          and there was no white terror and repression from whites, from the fact that "white" and "fluffy"?

          "Whites" did not exist. This is a later notion from the time of Dzhugashvili. At the same time, VOSR was invented and much more.
          The Bolsheviks, their Red Army, fought in the Russian territory in Russia. With the Russian Volunteer Army. And they defeated the Russians.
          Why did Russians lose in Russia?
          Because there have always been not so many Russians living in Russia. And they did not have enough strength against the cunning rogues-Bolsheviks and the greedy "population".
          Then the Bolsheviks gave the “population” a good shoe.
          But the Russians (those who did not have time or did not want to dump abroad) then the Bolsheviks purposefully cut out. Someone, of course, survived. But there were very few of them.
          Quote: Per se.
          Russia would come to an end, it would fall apart

          That which should not fall apart will never fall apart. And if it falls apart, then it will come together
          And vice versa. That which should fall apart sooner or later will surely fall apart.
          1. +6
            21 December 2018 14: 35
            Quote: tyyt
            There were no "whites".

            Quote: tyyt
            That which should not fall apart will never fall apart. And if it falls apart, then it will come together

            New historical philosopher! He will reveal the truth to us! We have been waiting for him for so long !!! lol
            1. -1
              21 December 2018 16: 35
              Who are you? On whose behalf are you speaking?
              1. -2
                22 December 2018 12: 40
                And about the same as who wrote yesterday at 21:30 "... and therefore we will try very hard to prevent this from happening. I give you my word of honor with all my heart! ..." (c) - :-)
        2. -6
          21 December 2018 13: 33
          About furry, I did not say anything. Of course, no official terror was carried out by whites. In war there is always a place of cruelty on both sides. However, at the state level, the Soviets proclaimed terror! This was their official policy. Everything that you wrote in the future completely fits into the averaged left propaganda. Apparently, in order to make Russia great, the Germans sent Lenin to us with comrades in a sealed train car, and Trotsky’s Americans with a team on a steamboat ... And of course, in order to build socialism, the Bolsheviks had to (they cried and shot) shoot, repress, collectivize, exile, talk and dispossess ... millions of Russian people!
          1. 0
            22 December 2018 08: 21
            Apparently, in order to make Russia great, the Germans sent Lenin to us with comrades in a sealed carriage, and Trotsky's Americans with a team on the ship

            Well, Kolchak and Wrangel certainly the Russian people chose the Entente, of course, nothing to do with it. But Krasnov and Skoropadsky generally hated the Germans.
          2. 0
            24 December 2018 23: 08
            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            Bolsheviks had to build socialism (they cried and shot) to shoot, repress, collectivize, exile, talk and dispossess ... millions of Russian people

            These are all Zionofashists Sverdlovs, Trotsky, Zemlyachki-Zalkindy, KhAI Frumkiny, Bela-Kuny and other scum
        3. -6
          21 December 2018 21: 30
          Cheslav told you the truth, but you and your socialism have already hesitated completely. Russia is unlikely to survive your experiments this time, and therefore we will try very hard to prevent this from happening. I give you my word of honor with all my heart!
          1. +3
            22 December 2018 08: 25
            Russia is unlikely to survive your experiments this time, and therefore we will try very hard to prevent this from happening.

            A past experiment led Russia to unprecedented power in history, so that Russia will not only survive it, but it is now absolutely necessary for it. Of course, the lackeys of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and their owners will try to prevent this from happening.
      3. 0
        21 December 2018 20: 48
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        The Tambov uprising had the character of a real war

        The Tambov uprising was generally ideological — not to pay taxes, so the whites were sent, and 7 thousand red completely opposed 30 thousand tax evaders (at the peak of the 10 thousand red against 50 thousand) tax evaders. And as soon as the state got the power they began to pay as nice and not they squeaked.
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        White movement found strong support

        At first it was until the population began to flog, burn and hang. (As an example, Pskov, Izhevsk)
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        subsequent repression

        Googling Defarming in the USA-Stalin with his repressions looks unconvincing.
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        Stalin’s most important mistake was his ignoring of numerous information about the impending attack on the USSR by German troops.

        I wonder what would you do in that setting?
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        Stalin's collectivization took property from the peasants and drove them into collective farms.

        And in what developed country did the peasants remain?
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      1. +8
        21 December 2018 11: 34
        Photo of a German concentration camp.
        1. +6
          21 December 2018 17: 41
          In my opinion, still Finnish.
          1. 0
            21 December 2018 20: 59
            Concentration camp in Petrozavodsk. The picture was taken in 1944. Photo: fotokto.ru - "Republic"
      2. +13
        21 December 2018 11: 36
        Quote: 777-3-59-97
        Thanks to comrade Stalin for our happy childhood

        You cut off the photo for what purpose?

        1. +11
          21 December 2018 18: 57
          Quote: Claymore
          Quote: 777-3-59-97
          Thanks to comrade Stalin for our happy childhood

          You cut off the photo for what purpose?

          Yeah. The troll was caught fat and lazy. If only I looked at the "wiki".


          Description: "Prisoners of Fascism" (the author's name of the photo).
          Soviet children-prisoners of the 6th camp in Petrozavodsk, 1944.
          The picture was presented as part of the evidence at the Nuremberg trial of war criminals.
          Creation Time: June 1944
          Author: Galina Sanko
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Файл:Fin_Con_camp.jpg
          1. +9
            21 December 2018 19: 38
            What do we want with the feeding up of pseudo-Leninists, Alekseevs and the like ..
    5. +6
      21 December 2018 12: 23
      In Solovyov's program, J. Kedmi said the right words about the phenomenon of Stalin: "Stalin" lived in the USSR, "when he died, his entire legacy was. A military uniform without shoulder straps, a military-style overcoat, a cap, a pair of boots and a country that won the war, which was recovering after the war ".
      1. +4
        21 December 2018 13: 19
        You also forgot the state of Israel. Although the Jews deceived the brilliant leader of the peoples, he is rightfully the father of this state. Of course, we will not discuss the consequences of this creation ... Jacob Kedmi is simply a grateful and decent person. Hebrews Stalin made a truly invaluable gift.
        1. +1
          21 December 2018 15: 39
          I completely agree with you.
    6. +4
      21 December 2018 17: 30
      And DR Rokossovsky
      Marshal of the Soviet Union, Marshal of Poland, and also the outstanding strategic mind of the 21th century - Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokossovsky was born on December 1896, XNUMX in Warsaw
    7. -1
      26 December 2018 21: 31
      The article is a set of mythological cliches that are just as harmful to the present case as the modern propaganda of the fascists. (Fascism is the power of the most nationalist-minded, most reactionary part of financial capital. In domestic politics, solidarism, pseudo-patriotism, in foreign politics - the inhumanization of representatives of other nations and peoples, their merciless exploitation and physical destruction).

      Stalin is not an emperor. The USSR is not an empire. Learn the story.
  2. +11
    21 December 2018 06: 33
    After the death of I. Ilf and the tragic death of E. Petrov, 12 chairs and the Golden Calf were not republished .... In 12 chairs, an interesting moment in 1927, citizens calmly travel along the Georgian Military Highway, painting beauty with all kinds of inscriptions ... This is in 10 years after the revolutions and the civil war ... I remember the tear-off calendars ... on the sheet on December 21 it was noted that on that day I.V. Stalin was born with a portrait of course ... and on the sheet on December 30 the USSR emblem and a reminder that this day the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was created .. It was mountains spine and regret, why not the output that would not go to school ... smile Moreover, it's still 31 New Years ...
    1. 0
      21 December 2018 10: 08
      Quote: parusnik
      In 12 chairs an interesting moment of 1927 year, citizens calmly travel along the Georgian Military Highway, painting the beauties with all kinds of inscriptions
      -There are nuances: Koreans could quite drive there and went ....
      the owner of "Odessa Public Artel - Moscow Bagels" was milked several times by Ostap (in "12 chairs") in the South
      And in Esentuki, and the Cavminvodvod ... there were many wealthy people in the country, many ...
      By the way, a demonstration book - you just need to carefully read it. However, this is about all the books ...

      ZY When I was aged I re-read "Virgin Land Upturned" and still could not understand how this anti-Sovietism was allowed to enter the USSR (and it was republished many times !!)
      1. +5
        21 December 2018 10: 26
        Did you notice that in Soviet times and later the book is perceived differently?
        1. +1
          21 December 2018 11: 45
          Quote: Avior
          Did you notice that in Soviet times and later the book is perceived differently?
          -naturally + age of reading (life experience)
          1. +4
            21 December 2018 11: 53
            this by itself, but also additional information that changes the attitude to the written, reveals its various nuances, understandable to Sholokhov himself, but not very clear to a person of the 70-80s ..
      2. +1
        21 December 2018 12: 40
        They staged performances, radio shows, literary readings on the radio and a film was made ...
  3. +14
    21 December 2018 06: 40
    A phenomenon? There is a Great Person-Stalin! A true statesman, not a couple of the current politicians bashfully calling themselves!
    1. +5
      21 December 2018 07: 34
      The one who worked without thinking about the benefits for himself, which is what he demanded from his environment. This is not a phenomenon. For those people, this was the norm.
      1. +6
        21 December 2018 08: 40
        Of course, there is no phenomenon. There is efficiency, integrity, perseverance.
        1. +4
          21 December 2018 09: 46
          Quote: 210ox
          There is performance, integrity, perseverance.

          As well as determination and faith, faith in the people and the desire for national well-being and prosperity of the country and citizens!
        2. +1
          21 December 2018 09: 49
          Quote: 210ox
          Of course, there is no phenomenon. There is efficiency, integrity, perseverance.

          A goal that meets the interests of the working classes.
      2. -3
        21 December 2018 12: 12
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        The one who worked himself not thinking about benefits for yourself , which is what I demanded from my environment. This is not a phenomenon. those people it was the norm.
        -
        I speak Slogans - there is always a risk of tripping over TRUTH(well, she doesn’t want to cram into Slogansdoes not want !!) ......
        J. V. Stalin's "environment" and their understanding "norms":
        Marshal Zhukov
        "As a result of the search, it was found that two rooms of the dacha were turned into a warehouse where huge the amount of various kinds of goods and values.
        For example:
        woolen fabrics, silk, brocade, panne velvet and other materials - total over 4 000 meters (4 Kilometers !!!!!);
        furs - sable, monkey, fox, fur seals, astrakhan, astrakhan - all 323 skins;
        top chevro - 35 leather;
        expensive carpets and tapestries of large sizes, taken out of Potsdam and other palaces and houses in Germany - all 44 pieces, some of which are laid out and hung around the rooms, and the rest are in the warehouse; especially noticeable is the large size of the carpet, laid out in one of the rooms of the cottage;
        valuable paintings of classical painting of large sizes in the artistic framework - only 55 pieces, hung in the rooms of the cottage and partially stored in the warehouse;
        expensive dinnerware and tea-ware sets (porcelain with artistic decoration, crystal) - 7 large drawers;
        silver cutlery and tea sets - 2 drawer;
        richly decorated accordions - 8 pieces;
        unique hunting rifles of the company "Holland-Holland" and others - only 20 pieces. "- kilometers of fabrics and silver dishes are not piece - but in boxes

        General Kryukov
        "On February 5, 1949, he stunned her with such news that she barely regained consciousness.
        - An additional search in a special cache in the kitchen under the stove in the apartment of your former nanny Egorova, who lives in Petrovka, 26, seized your property Xnumx diamonds and, in addition, emeralds, sapphires, rubies, pearls, platinum, gold and silver products. Why did you still hide that you possess such great values?
        - I was sorry ... I was sorry to lose these diamonds. After all, I gave them all the last years to acquire! As soon as I heard from the bottom of my ear that a rare ring, pendant or earrings were being sold somewhere, I did not hesitate to buy them so that ... so that there would be more and more diamonds.
        - And where did you get the money?
        - I made good money by playing Russian songs. Especially during the war, when the "left" concerts became much more. And I began to buy diamonds and other values ​​from the 1930 of the year and, I confess, I did it not without excitement.
        - With no less excitement, you also acquired paintings by collecting a collection of 132 paintings, whose place is in the Tretyakov Gallery.
        - I will not deny that I devoted myself to the acquisition of art canvases with all my passion. "
        The Kryukov-Ruslanov family had two dachas, three apartments, four cars, antique furniture, many kilometers of fabrics, hundreds of astrakhan and sable skins, pianos, accordions, radios, rare sets and ... 4 paintings by Nesterov, 5 - Kustodiev, 7 - Makovsky, 5 - Shishkina, 4 - Repin, 3 - Polenova, 2 - Serov, 3 - Malyavina, 2 - Vrubel, 3 - Somov, 1 - Vereshchagin, 1 - Vasnetsov, 3 - Aivazovsky, as well as canvases by Surikov, Fedotov, Myasoedov, Tropinin, Yuon, Levitan, Kramskoy, Bryullov and other world famous artists. "

        Z.Y. I do not belittle the role of Zhukov in the Victory, I completely agree that these are trophies and he, as a commander, deserved them
        Just throwing Slogans leads to the emergence of new conditional "Rezuns" - which will have nothing to oppose. And already soon 30 years - how can we wash ourselves off the dirt that he dumped on us, simply because during the Soviet era, everyone modestly hushed up everything unpleasant about the Second World War
        1. +4
          21 December 2018 15: 16
          Quote: your1970
          Z.Y. I do not belittle the role of Zhukov in the Victory, I completely agree that these are trophies and he, as a commander, deserved them

          Trophies such as 4 thousand. meters of fabric, hundreds of skins, dozens of paintings, hundreds of gold items, dozens of gold watches, six concert accordions - shameful trophies for the marshal.
          They are conquered primarily by a simple soldierwho bore the brunt of the war on his shoulders. A simple soldier who fought on the sidelines of human capabilities, suffered from wounds, died on the battlefield, in hospitals, in captivity. This is primarily his trophies, and not Marshal Zhukov.
          Trophies conquered by women, the elderly, adolescents in the rear, who also worked in the aisle of human forces in the field, in factories, even went down into the lava of mines underground to replace their husbands and brothers who went to the front. Who lived in the most difficult conditions, eating somehow on cards, dressing and shoeing somehow, but they uninterruptedly supplied the army with first-class weapons, good-quality clothes, shoes, and food.
          Zhukov himself was provided during the war at 100%, and his family with his mistresses at 100%, did not starve, did not live in barracks, dugouts, did not work at machine tools, in the fields, underground in lavas. They didn’t work at all, no where.
          Therefore, Zhukov could have been more modest, rather than grabbing trophies for free to the eyeballs.
          I had to see, but what I had to see, Zhukov saw that the whole country was in ruins, he saw that thousands of villages were burned, he saw tens of thousands of children left without parents, he saw that tens of millions of people became disabled, crippled by the war, millions people died in general.
          Against this background, against the background of life in dugouts, against the background of women, old people, children dressed in horrible clothes, against the background of half-starving hero of the Soviet Union, Marshal of the Soviet Union Zhukov with four thousand meters of fabric, with hundreds of fur skins, with six concert accordions , with three dozen gold watches, paintings, porcelain, crystal looks like a huckster.
          Zhukov is not the environment of Stalin IV.
          1. +9
            21 December 2018 16: 29
            Quote: Ivan Tartugay
            Zhukov is not the environment of Stalin IV.

            Well, for all this Zhukov was sent ... to the Odessa district. And Ruslanova was jailed for speculation. But then both became "victims".
          2. 0
            22 December 2018 19: 42
            Quote: Ivan Tartugay
            Zhukov not Stalin's environment IV.
            "Are you embarrassed to ask who then you belong to Stalin’s circle? Posrebysheva / Vlasik and all? If this circle is so narrow, then what difference does it make that he inspired a couple of people not to care
            Quote: Vladivostok1969
            about the benefits for themselves, which is what I demanded from my environment. This is not a phenomenon. For those people, this was the norm.
  4. +9
    21 December 2018 06: 43
    It began in 1927 grain crisis. Cities with their outdated, weak industry could not provide the village with all the necessary goods. The village refuses to sell bread. We have to re-enter food cards. The village is on the verge of a new peasant war and famine.

    Not for the sake of truth, but for the truth. It was not the village that refused to sell bread, but the fist - a rural moneylender, a world-eater.

    By the end of the 20s, thanks to the NEP, a situation arose in the village, which was the situation before the revolution - land was again and again lacking. Put on a feeder allowed to pay tax and barely meagerly soak. Sometimes it was not enough. It got to the point that the peasants, as in the best traditions of Westerns, stopped trains and robbed them. In order to pay tax and not starve to death.
    Against the background of such rural poverty, the class of the rural bourgeoisie — the kulak — very quickly stood out. Everything was given in growth - bread, seeds, stock, draft power, money. The interest was predatory - in the spring you take a bag of grain, in the fall give two. Or even half the crop. For non-payment of land the land allotment was squeezed out. And so it was - from the neighbor on the right for the debts took the land, and the neighbor on the left for the debts processed it. Thus, the commodity grain was in the hands of a fist.

    It was a kulak, not a village, that in 1927 did not want to sell grain to the state at a fixed price. The poor man just handed in bread, and held his fist until better times. "The best times", according to the kulaks, are when people in the cities will naturally die of hunger - then the price can be increased such as in besieged Leningrad. Nothing personal just business.

    So collectivization was prepared by the fist throughout the 20s. Just like the present bourgeoisie, it is carefully preparing the revolution. Pension reform was one of the ingredients. There are still a lot of similar spices.

    It is a great happiness both for the country and for the peoples of Russia, that at that dashing time Stalin was at the helm of the country. It is still unknown how everything would have unfolded if it had happened otherwise.
    1. +7
      21 December 2018 07: 25
      Quote: McAr
      collectivization all the 20s was preparing a fist

      My father-in-law told me that it was so. And if it were not for the collective farms, the country could go on the spree without bread.
  5. +1
    21 December 2018 06: 43
    Putin, the lower rank, who stole general's boots (s)
  6. +8
    21 December 2018 06: 46
    How the USSR was restored after the war. "Stalin's miracle"

    Stalin raised the country 10 years after the war.
    The restoration of the USSR after the war is also called the "Stalinist economic miracle." Cities were rebuilt again, prices fell annually, workers had the opportunity to earn money and take an apartment on a mortgage at 1 percent per annum. With zero inflation.

    The Soviet Union suffered the most severe losses in the Great Patriotic War. It was wiped out 1710 cities, 70 thousand villages and villages, 32 thousand industrial enterprises, 65 thousand kilometers of railways, 98 thousand collective farms and 2890 machine and tractor stations. Direct damage to the Soviet economy amounted to 679 billion rubles (comparable to the total capital investments of the USSR for the first four five-year periods). The total damage, including the costs of reconstruction of factories and the conduct of war, is estimated by economists at 2 trillion. 596 billion rubles And this despite the fact that the budget revenues of the USSR in the 1940th amounted to 180 billion rubles. The national economy, metallurgy, and agriculture were thrown back 10 years ago, to levels as far back as the 1930s.

    THIS IS HOW TO WORK
    1. -7
      21 December 2018 07: 11
      Quote: Nonna
      THIS IS HOW TO WORK

      Well, for the sake of truth, it is necessary to clarify that it was unlikely that without the Germans and Americans, Stalin could carry out industrialization! Here, somehow it did without sanctions.
      1. +6
        21 December 2018 09: 31
        Quote: You Vlad
        Here somehow it did without sanctions.

        Well, we were without sanctions until 2014, and there was no breakthrough in the economy ...
      2. +4
        21 December 2018 09: 54
        Quote: You Vlad
        Well, for the sake of truth, it is necessary to clarify that it is unlikely that without the Germans and Americans, Stalin could carry out industrialization!

        For the sake of truth, it must be clarified that with industrialization it was not ethnic groups and nations that helped, but foreign workers with engineers.
      3. +3
        21 December 2018 09: 56
        Quote: You Vlad
        It is unlikely that without the Germans and the Americans, Stalin would be able to carry out industrialization! Here, somehow it did without sanctions.

        Pay the money, everyone will help vividly. And they won’t look at the sanctions. Only ours do not need it. They are waiting for investors and chatting about 25 million jobs where future pensioners should be planted.
        1. +1
          21 December 2018 13: 14
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Pay the money, everyone will help vividly. And they won’t look at the sanctions. Only ours do not need it.
          - Siemens was paid ... And where is Siemens now ??
          Or did you have to pay 5-10 times more ??
          1. +4
            21 December 2018 14: 45
            Quote: your1970
            - Siemens was paid ... And where is Siemens now ??
            Or did you have to pay 5-10 times more ??

            Maybe so, if necessary! And better - you didn’t have to ruin your own!
          2. 0
            21 December 2018 21: 11
            Siemens so in Russia and works:
            December 19, 2018 The first power unit of the Grozny TPP turbine of E- and F-class was commissioned. Siemens Transformers delivered five power transformers. In addition, new HB3-80 kA generator modules manufactured by Siemens were used at the facility.
            Installation supervision and commissioning works were carried out by Siemens Gas Turbine Technologies LLC specialists.
            December 14, 2018 Siemens increases the capacity of the substation Yoshkar-Ola TPP-1
            December 06, 2018, Energoservice of the North-West and Siemens signed a cooperation agreement.
            1. +1
              22 December 2018 12: 21
              and Where are Siemens with turbines in Crimea? there are now looking BOOtire turbines belay
              no need to crush - it's a bit BEFORE it was necessary
              1. 0
                23 December 2018 13: 12
                June 27th, 9: 18


                Everyone had already forgotten how the turbines got to the Crimea and how Siemens rebelled because of this and was going to almost leave all the projects in Russia and sue everything back. But ... in this situation, the main thing is to make a formidable face and puff out cheeks for American partners. And then you can work as you worked ...

                A Taurian TPP near the Crimean capital supplied the first megawatts to the power system. The first unit produced 45 megawatts of electricity.

                The government decided to support Power Machines with a project to create high-power turbines in our country. Siemens has completely transferred the production of turbine blades to Russia.
  7. +8
    21 December 2018 06: 51
    A good article that gives some people the opportunity to analyze historical events based on the realities of that time, and not myths created by Russian liberals who hate everything Soviet.
  8. +14
    21 December 2018 06: 59
    Unlike Stalin, Putin rolled back to capitalism, and some republics of the USSR rolled back even further to feudalism and the tribal system. On this basis, all Putin’s words about the breakthrough sound absurd, it’s populism or distraction from the process of exporting resources from Russia. We are constantly told that the USSR was backward, while raising prices for everything, robbing the poorest in the first place. They say that we don’t have money, we need to save on the old people, but how could everything be enough in the USSR, Russia pulled on a dozen more republics, built housing, sanatoriums, factories, paid salaries, just imagine these costs. Now everyone has shifted to us, where is the money? In the Fed, on the islands or stupid isn’t it not for people?
  9. 0
    21 December 2018 07: 04
    Hmm, but the situation is somewhat reminiscent.
    By the way, another 5 kopecks about Stalin. There is such a term - "spiral of revolutions". To put it simply, once started, revolutions follow one after another - until a dictator appears, and the more turns the spiral has made, the bloodier the dictator is, there are simply no other options.
  10. +7
    21 December 2018 07: 14
    Glory to Comrade Stalin!
  11. +6
    21 December 2018 07: 15
    The most voluminous description of the Soviet leader was Prime Minister of Great Britain W. Churchill in his speech on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of the birth of I.V. Stalin:
    “It was great happiness for Russia that during the years of difficult trials, Russia was headed by the genius and unshakable commander I.V. Stalin. He was an outstanding personality, impressing the cruel time of the period in which his whole life passed. Stalin was a man of extraordinary energy, erudition and unbending will, sharp, tough, merciless both in business and in conversation, which even I, raised in the English parliament, could not oppose. Stalin, above all, had a great sense of sarcasm and humor, as well as the ability to accurately express his thoughts. Stalin wrote speeches only himself, and gigantic power always sounded in his works. This power was so great in Stalin that it seemed unique among the leaders of all times and peoples. Stalin made the greatest impression on us. His influence on people was irresistible. When he entered the hall of the Yalta Conference, we all, as if on command, stood up and, strange thing, for some reason held our hands at the seams. He possessed a deep, devoid of any panic, logical and meaningful wisdom. Stalin was an unsurpassed master in finding in difficult moments the way out of the most hopeless situation. In the most difficult moments, as well as in moments of triumph, he was equally restrained, never succumbed to illusions. He was an unusually complex person. He created and subjugated a vast empire. It was a man who destroyed his enemy with his hands and made us, whom he openly called imperialists, rebel against the imperialists. Stalin was the greatest, unparalleled dictator in the world. He accepted Russia with a plow, and left it equipped with atomic weapons. No! No matter what they say about him, such stories and peoples do not forget. ”
    1. -5
      21 December 2018 07: 58
      Churchill did not say this, all the more so these days he did not leave home due to illness. And how could they get up if Roosevelt was paralyzed. Stalin is a great man, did a lot for the country. without staples, etc. But he was not emperor.
      1. +1
        21 December 2018 09: 26
        Spoke. By the way, Hitler characterized Stalin very similarly in Mein Kampf, believing that the USSR was created only by the iron will of Joseph Vissarionovich !!!
        1. -2
          21 December 2018 09: 38
          Quote: Ptolemy Lag
          Spoke.

          I used to think so too. And, of course, it is a pity that Churchill did not say such a thing, because everything said is true. Most likely this is framed in one statement by different people about Stalin.

          Churchill about Stalin. To the source:
          https://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/1701527.html
    2. 0
      21 December 2018 08: 44
      I wonder why on the Internet quotes are attributed mainly to Churchill, Bismarck and de Gaulle?
    3. -1
      21 December 2018 10: 02
      Quote: Nonna
      He accepted Russia with a plow, and left it equipped with atomic weapons.

      As much as possible: Churchill never said this!
  12. -5
    21 December 2018 07: 20
    I read the title of the article and immediately began to search for the words “Russian superethnos”, “millennia-old history” and Samsonov’s authorship. I was not mistaken. He simply moved from “History” to “Opinions”.
    1. -1
      21 December 2018 08: 39
      And what, one wonders, is the “Russian superethnos” better than our “great ukrov”?
      1. +1
        22 December 2018 14: 30
        Quote: Anatol17
        And what, one wonders, is the “Russian superethnos” better than our “great ukrov”?

        You are right, in principle, no better.
        With the only amendment that the "Russian superethnos" includes not only "Great Russians" - but also "Little Russians" and "Belorussians".
        True, with various variations in the relationship between them - from "equality" to the position of the "younger brothers" of the latter, in relation to the "Great Russians".
        "Great Ukrainians" declare only their own "greatness" and the rest, they do not consider them "brothers" in any way.
        IMHO.
  13. +4
    21 December 2018 07: 30
    Why is the red emperor?
    The Latin imperātor was originally just “chief”, “leader”, later it began to acquire a monarchical character, “ruler”.
    Now often the emperor is just an official, practically nothing decisive. Like an English queen or a Japanese emperor. Nothing depends on them. They live simply as parasites, but are considered emperors.
    Stalin IV is more suitable for the head, leader.
    Both the boss and the leader are active individuals. These are people of work, people of work, who influence the development of the country. As they cease to work, work, they cease to be chiefs or leaders and the country collapses. These were Khrushchev, Brezhnev and further on the list with their parasite, members of the Politburo, ministers, marshals, generals, secretaries of regional committees and others.
    1. +4
      21 December 2018 08: 28
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Stalin IV is more suitable for the head, leader.

      ------------------
      And even the theorist himself wrote scientific works.
    2. +4
      21 December 2018 08: 33
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      Both the boss and the leader are active individuals. These are people of work, people of work, who influence the development of the country. As they cease to work, work, they cease to be chiefs or leaders and the country collapses.

      That's right. Here is the picture for your post:

  14. +13
    21 December 2018 07: 38
    Everyone spoke out well. What can be added here. Stalin did, but did not speak. Citizens did not occupy empty chatter for many hours and there were results.
  15. +11
    21 December 2018 08: 27
    Stalin kept the whole world with the Yalta Conference. All! Say thanks. You will never see such titans of politics again. And here everything rests on little things, some kind of "repression", "excess losses in the Second World War." And Putin generally disgraces himself with his "executioner walls" and "human rights activists". He ate the legacy of his grandfathers, and also sticks to them "the USSR produced galoshes", and that he himself has been sitting in a halo for a long time he does not see.
  16. -3
    21 December 2018 08: 59
    All is true.
    And who is the Leader for today? And ready to fight for power and your idea? Who is ready to bring himself or his loved ones, like Stalin (suicide of his wife, drunkenness of his son, revelry of his daughter) as a conscious and necessary sacrifice of his Idea and Purpose? Is there such a team that is also ready to sacrifice everything for the achievement of the Goal?
    So far, people supporting Communism / Socialism (by the way, it is necessary to precisely state what it is and how to implement it) will not have a Leader and a Team ready to put their own life and destiny to achieve the announced Goals and objectives, we will only cry for the lost USSR.
    I clarify that now there is no declared Civil War, comparable from 1918 - 1920. And I hope so. that the new Leaders will not allow it.
    Putin, no matter what they say about him, stands firmly for his power and at the same time he has a team going towards its Goal and hard pushing its decisions.
    PS: I apologize, which is a bit messy, but as it is.
  17. +2
    21 December 2018 09: 03
    Putin, the uncle is touchy, and under the USSR they offended him, well, he was not a less valuable person in the Committee, even less likely. He sat in the GDR, did not work in the cold, Drew to the underground, and there the whole thing escaped, now the USSR is not in favor.
    1. -2
      21 December 2018 13: 26
      Quote: Conductor
      Putin, the uncle is touchy, and when USSR offended him well was not he is more or less valuable in the Committee, even, most likely, less. sat in the GDR, did not work in the cold, I reached the underground, and there the whole thing broke out, now the USSR is not in favor.
      -And you didn’t live clearly under the USSR-because you don’t understand what it is officially live in the GDR during Soviet times...
      fool fool fool fool fool fool
      Do not disgrace !!!!
      Z.Y. who would offend me so ......
      1. 0
        21 December 2018 16: 28
        from 1972 of the year he lived in the USSR and what
      2. 0
        21 December 2018 16: 29
        I’m not talking about the standard of living and his career
        1. 0
          22 December 2018 12: 41
          Quote: Conductor
          from 1972 of the year he lived in the USSR and what

          Quote: Conductor
          I’m not talking about the standard of living and his career
          career of a person who left and worked in the USSR Beyond the border (and not in Mongolia / Africa, but in the GDR !!) and received there Colonel - HEAD-ROUND !!!- he was already automatically in reserve for the general post ...
          About such small nishtyaki - like imported things and the ability to import a foreign car from there I generally keep quiet ...
          if they gave 2 prices for the Volga easily, I don’t even dare to estimate how much you could earn on a foreign car. About prestige, if you don’t sell it, I’m silent at all.
          Vysotsky a little earlier on a Mercedes traveled around Moscow without observing any rules - and not because he was Vysotsky, but because Mercedes
    2. +7
      21 December 2018 16: 05
      Quote: Conductor
      only escaped, now the USSR is not in favor.

      Putin did not break free, he was dragged by the Yeltsin team to the top.
      Literally at a gallop, in less than four years, they dragged from the assistant rector of the university to the President of the Russian Federation.
      The president’s administration, the FSB, the Security Council, and the post of Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, acting President of the Russian Federation.
      So he himself would never have escaped.
      Only a team, and the main team of the country can do this.
  18. 0
    21 December 2018 09: 06
    Soviet Russia in isolation. A strong Russia is useless to the West. There are no external investments, just as there is no access to advanced technologies.
    Everything is as it is now.
    The difference was that under the Stalinist course, the victims were meaningful, expedient - a new reality was created, a new world-civilization, a society of the future were being built.
    The sacrifices are meaningful, yes. But this meaning was seen by the "top authorities". Did the "victims" themselves know that they were "meaningful"? And modern "victims" begin to moan even when they are only trying to prevent them from swearing on the Internet. Eh ... "Victims" ...
    Stalin is a great man. And as the leader of the state, he was clearly in "his" place. But if you praise him daily, and even lusciously idealize him, then sooner or later there will be rejection. Especially after articles like: everything was bad, bad, bad, but Stalin came and immediately felt good.
    The greatness of people like Stalin does not need eulogies, it is erased by them.
    1. +1
      21 December 2018 09: 44
      Quote: Less
      Stalin is a great man. And as the leader of the state, he was clearly in "his" place. But if you praise him daily, and even lusciously idealize him, then sooner or later there will be rejection. Especially after articles like: everything was bad, bad, bad, but Stalin came and immediately felt good.
      The greatness of people like Stalin does not need eulogies, it is erased by them.

      I agree!

      And during his lifetime, Stalin did not like the blessings addressed to him. And now ...
      It is not necessary to glorify the name of the Leader, but to study his works and the works of his teachers - Marx and Lenin. Those. to do what Stalin called for. This will be the best glorification of both his deeds and his name.
    2. +1
      21 December 2018 10: 04
      Quote: Less
      Stalin is a great man. And as the leader of the state, he was clearly in "his" place

      Tell Loess, how do you feel about falsifying history?
      1. 0
        21 December 2018 10: 15
        Quote: Claymore
        Tell Loess, how do you feel about falsifying history?

        There is no falsified story. History itself is a collection of known facts and events and nothing more. But to submit these facts and to place emphasis or to keep silent about something is a normal phenomenon. And in my, my personal understanding of the story should be presented as follows. so that people are proud of their history, regardless of the period studied. Perhaps it is worth making exceptions for revolutionary moments. To avoid clouding of minds. Did I answer your question?
        1. -1
          21 December 2018 10: 29
          They did not answer, because I did not ask about the existence of an unfalsified history, nor about its presentation.

          I am asking specifically about falsification - i.e. about your attitude to the distortion of historical facts.
          1. +1
            21 December 2018 10: 31
            Well, if you and I don’t understand each other, then I think it makes no sense to continue the dialogue.
            1. -2
              21 December 2018 10: 40
              I can explain with an example.

              What is the meaning you put into the phrase "the leader of the state" you used above?
              1. 0
                21 December 2018 10: 43
                Quote: Claymore
                What sense do you put into the phrase "the leader of the state" you used above?

                Extremely direct.
                Can you directly ask or say what you want to ask or say? Your walks around frankly tire.
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                  1. +4
                    21 December 2018 11: 43
                    "the leader of the state" is the head of state, and Stalin was never the head of state.

                    In order not to go into empty talk, you are familiar with this expression:
                    "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."
                    1. +2
                      21 December 2018 18: 04
                      I am also familiar with the meaning contained in it.

                      Therefore, if it forms a government as head of state, accepts credentials as head of state and rewards state awards as head of state, then it is probably the head of state.

                      If it distorts historical facts as a falsifier of history, then it is a falsifier of history.


                  2. +3
                    21 December 2018 21: 21
                    Quote: Claymore
                    Khrushchev did not even think of calling Stalin the head of state - it was invented by anti-Soviet propagandists from the time of the Gorbachev perestroika.

                    This topic is not yours at all, in vain you write about it. Regarding what else, you have balanced, objective, interesting judgments. And in this - a complete fiasco.

                    You have a formal approach. That’s why it’s unproductive.
                    This de jure, Stalin was not the head of state, but de facto was its head, and leader, and master. And people are mostly not lawyers, but people.

                    Try to find somewhere among contemporaries a statement like "the leader of the world proletariat", "the leader of the peoples", "the leader of the country of Soviets" about Kalinin, Shvernik, Voroshilov, Mikoyan, and indeed any of the chairmen of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. The peoples of the USSR / CIS / RF, both then and now, considered and still consider Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, the patter of Andropov, Chernenko and Gorbachev as the leaders of the Union.
                    1. -1
                      22 December 2018 00: 30
                      Quote: McAr
                      This topic is not yours at all
                      I do not see the facts confirming this opinion.

                      You have a formal approach. That’s why it’s unproductive.
                      This is de jure Stalin
                      Dear McAr, we are not talking about a world created by a novelist, but about the state and state power, which, for objective reasons, are as formalized as possible.

                      The state is such a thing in which de jure always coincides with de facto, everything legal is factual, and everything factual that goes beyond legal is called a crime.

                      So what are you trying to convey to me when you say that Stalin was the head and master of the USSR?

                      You are aware that by making such a statement (the reasons for which are lacking due to the lack of facts confirming your position), you are thereby stating that Stalin violated the Constitution and laws of the USSR, carried out counter-revolution, and instead of the power of the Soviets established a regime of oligarchic dictatorship ?

                      In general, what does the phrase "de facto head of state" mean in your understanding, if the head of state is a specific position or body, to which a number of functions and powers are legally assigned, historically characteristic of the heads of state?

                      And people are mostly not lawyers, but people
                      Looking at the quality of today's industrial relations, it becomes clear what this kind of "humanity" leads to.

                      Try to find somewhere among contemporaries a statement like "the leader of the world proletariat"
                      Once again - we are talking about to the head of state.

                      The proletariat is not a state, and Marx and Engels, who were called leaders, did not head any state.

                      Those. the word "leader" at that time was not called the head of state, but public figures, moral and moral authorities, leaders of social movements, creators of theories, etc., and not heads of state.

                      But this is logic, and people are not lawyers, so we turn to dictionaries.

                      Ushakov: leader - leader of a social movement, party; ideological leader. Lenin and Stalin are the leaders of the working class.

                      Dahl: leader - ideological, political leader (social movement, party). People's The leaders of the revolutionary movement.

                      Ozhegov: the leader is the universally recognized ideological, political leader of the masses ... The head of the ideological trend, scientific direction (obsolete). The leaders of enlightenment.

                      Naturally, Kalinin was not called the leader - he was the chairman of the body that was the head of state, and not the leader or theorist of the social movement.
                      And precisely because he held the highest state post, and not the position of moral authority, the playful nickname "All-Union Headman" (an elected (or appointed) person to conduct business) was assigned to him.

                      The peoples of the USSR / CIS / RF, both then and now, were considered and still are the leaders of the Union by Lenin and Stalin
                      And we can see very well what such "bookkeeping" leads to.
  19. +1
    21 December 2018 09: 21
    I hope that Stalin is not the last emperor. Emperors will still be.
  20. -2
    21 December 2018 09: 35
    According to all objective, analytical estimates, it turned out that in the current situation ahead - the final death of civilization and the country. The party elite could still use huge raw materials and a thousand-year cultural and historical heritage (priceless artifacts of Russian history, art objects, etc.) for personal enrichment and creation of capital for the well-fed and beautiful life of their families in the West or East for another two or three decades.

    It’s direct, like about today's ones.))) It seems that the author has not analyzed for a long time, but ascribes his fabrications to historical periods.
  21. +4
    21 December 2018 09: 54
    STALIN was able to, he is a LIKE and he is recognized as a LOBE all over the world, GDP growth is from 15 to 40 %% per year, (now 1,5%), the total gross product by December 31, 1940 increased 26 times compared to 1913, the highest year in tsarist Russia. After the Great Patriotic War, the economy of the USSR was restored in seven years. So draw a conclusion about the effectiveness of ONE and the effectiveness of the current "sitting in high chairs." Only one conference on 20.12.2018 showed who is who. One has an affair, the other has only talk and promises.
  22. -7
    21 December 2018 10: 06
    Many facts of history do not correspond to the conclusions of the article. For example, I. Starinov wrote in his memoirs that the pledge of I.V. Stalin's rise to power was precisely the reliance on the bureaucracy. Under him, the party maximum was canceled and a closed distribution of goods was introduced. For example, after that, an official pleasing to Stalin began to receive more than the official salary in envelopes. His book "Mines are waiting in the wings, published with bills under Khrushchev, quite interestingly conveys the events of Stalin's repressions. Samsonov writes emotionally about the idlers clumsy of the NEP times who interfered with the development of the country. But as we know from history, almost all outstanding designers or scientists under Stalin were repressed: Khalepsky, who bought a prototype of the BT and T34 undercarriage from Christie (known as BT-1 in the USSR), the real developers of the T-34 (as far as I know Koshkin did not work at the drawing board), all the leading designers of the Tupolev Design Bureau, Bartini, rocket engineers, for example Korolev, IP Grave invented in 1916 the technology for the production of gunpowder for "Katyusha", the developers of vaccines and antibiotics .. In general, Simon Shnol did a detailed study of Stalin's influence on science in the USSR, for example, "Geniuses, villains, conformists of domestic science." In this work, you can find many more reliable facts, and the author's comments are more reasoned.Of course, Shnoll has newer works and no lessinteresting for example about the influence of the Germans on the development of science in Russia.
  23. +9
    21 December 2018 10: 20
    He didn’t steal and didn’t let others. He did not bow to the West. And what do you think? Stalin's works in American universities are studying! Everyone thinks, and suddenly such will appear again, as to fight with it. And here ..... Here the people of Comrade respect. I.V. Stalin for honesty, integrity, modesty. Therefore, his name will be glorified over the centuries, no matter how you try to forget today.
  24. -9
    21 December 2018 11: 15
    To understand Stalin and his time, you need to look at the time when he had to take the burden of power.
    The difference was that under the Stalinist course the victims were meaningful, expedient

    Nobody and nothing forced. Moreover, no one has ever elected anyone anywhere in any elections of the people and did not entrust anything: no "jerks", no "meaningful" sacrifices (as soon as it came to mind to say this, even Stalin did not say that).

    What are the author's endless "would" about the apocalypse without it? Yes, they are worth nothing, as evidenced by the experience of many centuries: Russia lived thousand years without the Bolsheviks and the leaders were dozens, who built the largest country in the world and continue to live. Only with the destroyed demography, the catastrophe of which began in the 1930s - with "meaningful victims." Which were completely meaningless and were only the result of inability to manage.

    NEVER, these victims, by the way, become victims, and even in peacetime, they did not agree. Who asked them? Or maybe the people asked for consent to the victims somewhere? no!
    Moreover. of these victims, according to OFFICIAL propaganda-did not exist in general, on the contrary. everything was amazing. and millions of peasants who died of hunger turned out to be ... already "wealthy people"

    And it was not without reason that they hid: How many votes in the REAL elections in 1937 would such leaders receive if the people knew the TRUTH about the millions who died of starvation in just a few months of 1932-33? Yes, they would not have received anything, which they were mortally afraid of, for which they spread an endless lie about everything.

    NOBODY repented for this catastrophe, shot himself, did not resign, like ... there was nothing.

    Results: reaching the level of food consumption. clothing housing of the level of 1913 only after FORTY years of "improvements". many millions died of hunger in the 20th century (nowhere else in the world was there such a thing), uninterrupted birth rate decline (depopulation since 1964), contraction of territory Russia-RSFSR after Education of the USSR -for 4 million km2 and a population of tens of millions of peopletoday's borders Russia-within the borders of the 17th centuryirreversibly aging The Russian people by 91, the destroyed Russian village by 1985. Where did all this come from? Are the "traitors" (a handful) to blame again?
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  26. +4
    21 December 2018 11: 37
    With age, understanding comes. So I came to understand that despite the efforts of liberals and democrats to want to slander, Stalin is a great leader of the country! And he did the right thing in terms of repression. The model of society and government at first was very similar to the present. Well, of course, at his dialectical turn ... And who is not stigmatizing the government and reproaching him for betraying his people? So then ... And the only means of treating the government were precisely repressions, for it was necessary to act cruelly with the enemies of the people ... IMHO ... But what about the pests on the ground? Now it’s already scary to go to the doctors - they will die by imposed procedures, illiterate diagnoses ... But then, was it different? And unscrupulous manufacturers of MIG 29- are not pests? And who drowned the dock? And who is cutting the budget? And who builds roads from sand? Well, then it was like. So it was necessary to punish severely, so as not to be common. But under Stalin, at first there was a Great Victory in the war and then an annual decline in food prices, etc. etc. Grandma told me about this. And the country was revived from ruins. And the country became a mighty power. And there were free pioneer camps and education was free, and every smart and diligent citizen could get higher education. And there was a unity of peoples. And not like now ...
    1. -3
      21 December 2018 13: 33
      Quote: Alexander X
      and then the annual decline in food prices, etc. etc. Grandma told me about this.
      - but she did not tell - that the cards were canceled and people began to buy goods at "commercial" (yes, the official name !!!) prices, there was a denomination - when the money was cut 10 times and only later(when people began to grumble and quite hard) - they reduced prices but not 10 times ...
      denominations remember xnumx's
      1. +8
        21 December 2018 14: 41
        She told everything. And the denomination has occurred in prices. And there were commercial shops, yes. But even then all was lacking for completely objective reasons. She told me how she went to such a store and cut a piece from her gold chain, hung it and converted it into rubles. This paid for the products for the holiday. She talked about how, with a disabled grandfather (from the war he came without an eye), she basically did not work, but raised children and ran a household. And he worked and provided for his family. The master of a model workshop at an aircraft factory (Mikoyanovsky) ... And the daughters grew up and learned. And one Baumanka finished another MISIS ... And how did you get the room after the wedding on 2nd Brestskaya, and then the apartment from the factory. And then the daughters got married and also received housing from the research institute, where they began to work ...
        And I remember the denomination of the 90s. And I remember how, with 2 graduates, a graduate school and a dissertation, I had to leave the research institute and go to a private office to set up computers, and write programs to feed my family. As in the 90s, on the birthday of a little daughter, a little one bought 2 bananas due to lack of money and cut them into pieces so that all the invited kids had enough. As in old age, I had to relearn no engineers were needed ...
  27. -5
    21 December 2018 12: 02
    Stalin --- Prometheus of our time .... The double-headed eagle of Zeus torments the flesh of a Titan chained to a rock, the people are silent as always ...., to the cries of holy fools-- Crucify him .... He left the atomic bomb ...., but he didn’t get rid of the plow ...., the dialectic of the plow and devastation, the Sharikov cadres decide everything.
  28. -11
    21 December 2018 13: 25
    He got a completely finished, killed country.
    - Did he have a hand in this?
    Thus, the USSR could become a typical finished country, a state without a future.
    - And before the October coup, Russia was in the lead of economic development ...
    According to all objective, analytical estimates, it turned out that in the current situation ahead - the final death of civilization and the country.
    - the same question: who brought the country to such a state by 1920? Who are the saviors of the Fatherland - the very ghouls / revolutionaries who unleashed the Red Terror? There were no others, either they were shot, or they left ....
    That is, the great sacrifices made by Russia and the people, for the sake of salvation, were inevitable.
    - I wonder if the author’s opinion about the inevitable (impersonal) victims would have changed if he (or his relatives, for example) were among these victims? About the suffering of other people is always easy to reason .... soulless.
    I will not even repeat the last paragraph as a quote.
    Stalin - the bloody executioner! As a result of his (and his) adventures, millions of innocent people died.
    He did not produce or discover anything - on the blood and bones of his kingdom was ...
    1. +8
      21 December 2018 13: 47
      Quote: swyatoslav
      He did not produce or discover anything - on the blood and bones of his kingdom was ...
      -And Nikolay- 2 what I am embarrassed to ask - produced?
      Due to concessions on the Yalu River, he built the Russo-Japanese War, during which the empire lost its fleet altogether ..
      I got into absolutely unnecessary RI PMV ...
      I looked through the February revolution ...
      Even his own convoy, where the king was a godson at a bunch of children of a military convoy, betrayed him on 4 Revolution Day .....
      1. -9
        21 December 2018 14: 34
        Quote: your1970
        and Nikolai-2, what am I shy to ask - did you produce?

        The COUNTRY produced, together with its ancestors, the largest in the world and with the fastest growing, FULL FORCE, people, with freedom, parties, newspapers, juries.

        Under the next ruler (even after the formation of the USSR), the territory of the RSFSR-Russia decreased 4 million km2 and tens of millions of peopleth: today's state borders of Russia of the 17th century, its cutting.

        From freedom, not a trace.

        And the population ceased to give birth, grew old and entered into a depopulation since 1964.

        When Nicholas русские settled Central Asia, the Caucasus. DV Siberia. Poland had an excess population.
        After the following rulers already jamshuts populate the empty Russian cities and villages.

        but- class close, true. But this is the main thing, right, your own?
        1. +4
          21 December 2018 19: 03
          hey Russian lost in chisinau, stop your inventions about the activity if 2 he was what is confirmed by his diaries
          1. -4
            22 December 2018 07: 38
            Quote: rayruav
            th Russian lost in chisinau, stop your inventions about activity if 2

            Statistics are not fiction: see demography and borders of Russia under the Emperor and after your idols. Tears do not choke?
        2. +3
          22 December 2018 11: 44
          Quote: Olgovich
          The COUNTRY produced, together with its ancestors, the largest in the world and with the fastest growing, FULL FORCE, people, with freedom, parties, newspapers, juries.
          - you still separate flies(Nicholas!) From cutlets(his ancestors).
          1) The country was not collected by him - his only acquisition (and that is very controversial, has begun to him) is Kushka. He (Port Arthur and the like), he missed everything else, or rather profiled. He could not keep Poland / Finland after his abdication - he would have brought the country to such a state. Even Stalin's 1945 sample of the year
          2) A fast-growing yes, I agree. 10 of children per family on average. But the trick is that a person reproduces quickly only where he lives poorly and hard (there are plenty of living examples in the world — Asia, Africa, South America, Asia) .Then in RI, it was a way to at least somehow survive - many workers / employees are free.
          And vice versa, when a person is relatively comfortable, he stops multiplying sharply. He begins to move the slogans: "We need grandmothers - to raise children, wean them, etc. We need grandmothers to buy a modern car / go to Turkey / Maldives / buy an iPhone / etc. .d. ". This is how Europe / USA / and even us live now. In the USSR, depopulation began when there was a separate housing (Khrushchevs) / TV / stable work with sufficient pay. And this immediately killed large families - why do 10 children when parents earn so much - that they can even postpone a little?
          3) Freedom, parties, newspapers ... why is this not there now? As far as I can see, neither you nor me are imprisoned. Regardless of the fact that you and I express ourselves in a completely media outlet ("Certificate of media registration El No. FS77-56354 ") - and sometimes it is quite impartial to the current government
          Parties? As with Nicholas - liberal, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Social Democrats, conservative, communist, right-wing ...
          Ultra and the Nazis there is no glory to God! Everything else is available ....
          Xnumx) jury? how many revolutionaries so unloved by you have you justified? a wagon and a small cart. What is wrong with them now?

          Z.Y. I am quite loyal to all the ancestors of Nicholas, who really did everything for Russia.
          I think that he and his wife received the bullet in the basement quite deservedly - for their affairs, for the ineptly fucked-up Russia.
          Here are his children (unlike him) really were villainously killed for nothing
      2. -5
        21 December 2018 20: 15
        And the article about Nicholas II? request
        The author praises the killer - Stalin, according to Nikolai, apparently in another article will go through ....
  29. -3
    21 December 2018 14: 14
    If we talk about politics, then there is no point in inventing a bicycle, the Americans invented it 200 years ago and everything goes and does not break, everything is simple:

    The state should have a social contract (constitution), but the most important thing is that the people should be its subject, that is, a party and not an appendage, and for this people should be able to audit, which is expressed in the free possession of automatic weapons and the right to rebel in case of violation of the constitution or usurpation of power, only the armed civilian police can keep the power of the servant to go into a state of mastery, only animal fear of violence.

    If, according to the Stalinists, Stalin was good, good, but he didn’t create a car, according to the Stalinists, bad people got behind the wheel and the people couldn’t prevent this from happening in Stalin, it makes no sense, the ruler should not be good and wise, but the system.
    1. +1
      22 December 2018 08: 55
      Just possession of automatic weapons in the United States is now not allowed. And by the way, can you cite the facts when the American people took advantage of the right to rebel after the formation of the United States? By the way, the US Constitution does not have such a right. This is a phrase from the Declaration of Independence.
  30. 0
    21 December 2018 14: 59
    Quote: Thus, Stalin managed to do the almost impossible. The end of the quote.
    Be realistic - demand the impossible!
  31. +4
    21 December 2018 15: 03
    Quote: Claymore
    The head of the USSR was a collegial body - the Presidium of the Supreme Council.

    It would be better if you didn’t get smart, it won’t give anything. Everyone understands perfectly well what it is about and why you decided to speak .... with such a long approach. In your opinion, the head of state was legally not the Presidium, but the Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Council, that is, a significant period under Stalin M.I. Kalinin. And you will insist that he should be called the head of state? And do not carry nonsense about the falsification of Gorbachev, etc. period ... if you do not understand the issue.
    1. -5
      21 December 2018 18: 25
      Quote: victor50
      You better not be smart
      For you, obviously, clever is everything that is a little more complicated than felt boots.

      The head of state, if you think, was not the Presidium legally, but the Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces
      The head of state is determined not by your ideas about the legal, but by the set of functions and powers characteristic of the head of state, which in the USSR was legally assigned to the Presidium of the Armed Forces, and not to its chairman.

      And you will insist that he should be called the head of state?
      I will insist that Kalinin was one of the leaders of the USSR, and the Presidium of the Armed Forces was the head of the USSR - since all this, unlike your fantasies, is documented.

      For now, you can continue to falsify history and declare Stalin "head of state" and "ruler", which in relation to the conditions of the collegial leadership system that existed in the USSR is equal to accusing Stalin of usurping power.
      1. +1
        22 December 2018 09: 02
        Do you really not know that in the USSR the Soviets were crushed by the party and their own executive committees? And their activity was largely formal? The main person in the region, after all, was not the chairman of the district executive committee or regional executive committee, but the first secretary of the district committee or regional party committee. But at the grassroots level, in rural areas, the main people were not the chairmen of village councils, but the chairmen of collective farms and directors of state farms.
        1. +1
          22 December 2018 11: 56
          Quote: Claymore
          I will insist that Kalinin was one of the leaders of the USSR, and the Presidium of the Armed Forces was the head of the USSR - since all this, unlike your fantasies, is documented.
          Den Xiao Ping in China at xnumx in general had no posts - however, was the most influential person in China
          1. 0
            22 December 2018 15: 50
            Quote: your1970
            Deng Xiao Ping had no posts at all in China in the 80s
            Well, yes - he only served as chairman of the Central Military Council, while "not occupying" any posts. laughing

            however was the most powerful man in China
            How did you define this?
            1. 0
              22 December 2018 16: 20
              Quote: Claymore
              Well, yes - he only served as chairman of the Central Military Council, while "not occupying" any posts.
              -helped from all posts at the end of 80's
              In this setting, at the beginning of 1992, 87-year-old Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping, no longer holding any official posts, He visited the most advanced in the sense of economic reforms southern regions of the country specifically to call for the continuation and deepening of the policy of openness to the outside world, proclaimed by him at the end of the 70's.
              Why Dan decided to perform outside of Beijing, it soon became clear. Dthe fact was that the party leaders, who had already gathered to lead the country in a different way, who believed that the “old man” had retired and would agree with all their plans, were at first confused and were not even allowed to publish messages about this trip. The first to break down was the new Central Secretary General of the Central Committee, Jiang Zemin, who publicly supported Dan a month later, probably deciding that this would be a good way to demonstrate the continuity of power. The further course of events showed that Jiang himself was a supporter of deepening reforms, but, apparently, at first he was afraid to openly express his views.
              After that, the situation quickly changed: they gradually got rid of frank retrogrades in the leadership, and Deng Xiaoping's position was recognized as official. What was Dan talking about? Briefly, his ideas were as follows: strengthen the power of the CPC, deepen market reforms, interest the West economically, trying to get everything that is possible from it. The living classic supported reform ideas and projects: special economic zones in Shenzhen and Zhuhai, the creation of joint ventures, the development of the coastal zone, the attraction of foreign investment and technology, and the increase in exports to developed countries.
              Dan’s trip actually launched a new phase of reforms implemented in 1990.
              1. 0
                24 December 2018 00: 37
                Quote: your1970
                -helped from all posts at the end of 80's
                Deng Xiao Ping in China in the 80s did not have any posts at all "

                The fact is that those who were already about to lead the country along a different path
                Tralyalyalya - where are the facts confirming the version of events described in the copy-paste?
        2. 0
          22 December 2018 12: 04
          "Oh, don't you know ?!" laughing

          The facts confirming your position - in the studio.
          1. +1
            22 December 2018 13: 57
            the facts are simple - our collective farm chairman could NOT to give the car to the chairman of the village council for a trip to the region or to give some sort of trakhoma - so that he appears in the region like a damn whole in the dust ....
            Chairman + party organizer - this is the main power in the village
            In the army - in our unit they elected an 20 summer conscript (a student at Moscow State University who had been expelled from some course). He was a member of the CPSU already before the army. And we systematically observed a funny picture - as a soldier at a party meeting puts the unit commander at attention and begins to tear him .Also, he’s getting rid of it, but God forbid, they will slap a reprimand on the party line, a scribe ...
            1. 0
              22 December 2018 15: 28
              Kindergarten. laughing

              Collective farm - collective nota state-owned enterprise, and a car purchased with collective farm funds is his property, which the owner (or his authorized representative) is free to dispose of at his discretion.
              1. +1
                22 December 2018 19: 51
                golden words !!!! NOT state, exactly !!! yeah-yeah ... only the PLAN let them down the state and tear the state for not fulfilling ....
                Therefore, I went to the district for a party activist meeting in connection with the sowing on the Volga - and the village councilor in the Lawn .... Although he had more power, as you say, ...
                The building of the district committee was newer and prettier than the executive committee, and the Canadian Christmas trees were planted in front of it - and not in front of the executive committee. NOT State collective farms-1 secretary of the district committee, not the executive committee.
                And yes, oddly enough, all of the above applies also to directors of state farms ...
                1. 0
                  24 December 2018 00: 29
                  Exactly.

                  The "plan" that goes down is a tax, and the state usually fights for non-payment of taxes.
                  1. 0
                    24 December 2018 13: 11
                    The descent plan had nothing to do with taxes. The state took its analogue of the current Treasury through the State Bank.
                    1. 0
                      24 December 2018 20: 20
                      You are not tired of writing nonsense yet?


                      SNK of the USSR
                      Central Committee of the CPSU (b)
                      Decree of January 19, 1933.

                      1. To cancel the existing contractual (contractual) system of harvesting grain crops and establish for collective farms and individual farms strong tax liabilities for the delivery of grain to the state at established state prices.


                      ZY
                      The Treasury is not an analogue of the State Bank.
                      1. 0
                        25 December 2018 09: 29
                        and you? The question of the times of 60-70 was discussed, and you pulled out 1933 ...
                        and yes - these are "firm obligations", even if they have tax force, but NOT tax

                        ZY
                        With the State Bank was not quite right, I admit my guilt
                        "In 1965-69, in the course of the economic reform, the activities of the State Bank underwent changes related to lending and settlements, planning and regulating money circulation, financing capital investments and organizing savings. The main types of lending to industry were lending for the turnover of material assets and costs. for wages and simple loan accounts. "
                      2. 0
                        26 December 2018 02: 01
                        Quote: your1970
                        the question of times 60-70 was discussed
                        The title of the text, under which we leave comments, consists of 4 words - "What is the phenomenon of Stalin" (which seems to be hinting).

                        Accordingly, the content of my comments, which became the object of your objections, refers precisely to the "Stalinist" period.

                        and yes - these are "firm obligations", even if they have tax force, but NOT tax
                        Risk to try to identify the conceptual difference? lol

                        He was not quite right with the State Bank
                        Not at all right.

                        The State Bank (aka the Central Bank, aka the National Bank) is engaged in monetary policy, ensuring the operation of the payment system and regulating the financial sector throughout the state.

                        And the Treasury is a kind of "financial secretariat" and deals with the execution of the budget (distribution of budget funds in accordance with the prescription).
  32. +3
    21 December 2018 16: 01
    Like Pushkin in literature, so Stalin in politics - "our everything."
    "After 1953, Jewish nationalists and careerists-bribe-takers wrote to power in the USSR. Covered from the Kremlin, when the time comes, they will throw off their masks, throw away their membership cards and openly rule their counties like feudal lords and serf-owners." © Mao Zedong
    He said this in 1964, and after 30 years began to come true. And now it is already taking on real shape.
    1. 0
      21 December 2018 16: 42
      Mao was wise ...., the environment of Stalin was not wise ....
    2. +1
      21 December 2018 17: 50
      Mao did not say that.
  33. 0
    21 December 2018 18: 12
    Quote from the article:
    "That is, the great sacrifices that Russia and the people made for the sake of salvation were inevitable."

    A thief will never be a fellow worker.
    The thief will always rob the worker, thanks to the robbery, robbery, deception of the worker, the thief exists. A thief will fight to the death and is fighting for his existence, it is vital for him to steal, rob, deceive.
    If a worker wants to get rid of a parasite thief, a robber, a bloodsucker, then victims will be inevitable.
  34. +2
    21 December 2018 18: 58
    as soon as I read about the matrix code, I immediately recognized the author, if you really respect Stalin, do not carry nonsense, he adhered to dialectical materialism and not some kind of medieval mysticism and outright lies
  35. -1
    21 December 2018 23: 08
    Comrade Samsonov writes:

    “To understand Stalin and his time, you need to look at the time when he had to take on the burden of power. 1920s. Russia barely emerged from the horror of world massacre, bloody turmoil and intervention. Millions of victims, refugees, beggars and cripples The catastrophe of the previous development project almost killed the Russian civilization and the country. The Bolsheviks literally miraculously saved the country and the people from death. But the situation was extremely difficult. Economy and transport in ruin. Industry collapsed, degraded, the industrial rise of the beginning of the XX century is long in the past. not a single large enterprise, power plant has been created, there are no large-scale construction projects for transport projects. "

    Real power, i.e. "when he had to take on the burden of power," Stalin began to possess after 1928. Until that time, Soviet Russia was being restored under the leadership of Dzerzhinsky, whose feat was kept silent by many, and Samsonov was among them. The desire to ascribe to Stalin the achievements of the first years of Soviet Power in restoring the national economy can be done in different ways, but it is possible and so "the obliging ***** is more dangerous than the enemy."
  36. +2
    22 December 2018 03: 27
    The one who writes about him never lived in those days. It doesn't matter what they write, good or bad. The country rushed forward, and the "top managers" he had the best in the world. For example, Lavrenty Beria!
  37. +1
    22 December 2018 12: 51
    Happy Birthday, Comrade Stalin!
  38. 0
    22 December 2018 17: 04
    But at a banquet in Tehran, Churchill, in the presence of Stalin and Roosevelt, raising his glass, said: "I get up in the morning and pray that Stalin was alive and well. Only Stalin can save the world!" Marshal Alexander Golovanov in Tehran witnessed this. This is power!
    1. -1
      22 December 2018 17: 12
      Quote: Metaphor
      But at a banquet in Tehran, Churchill, in the presence of Stalin and Roosevelt, raising his glass, said: "I get up in the morning and pray that Stalin was alive and well. Only Stalin can save the world!" Marshal Alexander Golovanov in Tehran witnessed this. This is power!

      Tell the fables of Kryladze. And you think someone will believe you.
  39. +1
    22 December 2018 17: 17
    At first I decided that this is a prokhanov epic. No. next generation
  40. 0
    22 December 2018 18: 43
    The key mechanism for the restoration of industry during the NEP years was the loading of available capacities. At the same time, the growth rate gradually faded, especially in agriculture, where in 1927–1928 a grain procurement policy was introduced, which created price scissors — high prices for industrial goods relative to agricultural ones. This changed the terms of trade between town and country and discouraged peasants. In fact, since 1925, agriculture and small-scale industry have entered a stage of stagnation.
    The violation of the exchange of goods between the city and the village created deficits and could be restored only in two ways - either by adjusting relative prices, that is, the conditions of exchange, or by force. Stalin chose the second option.
    Another important point. There is another important criterion for assessing the success of NEP - the return of the economy to the trend of normal years. If we think that every national economy has a long-term, “centuries-old” trend of natural development, then the years of crisis are losses not only due to a decrease from the pre-crisis mark. It is also a deviation from the potential trajectory, which is always greater. So, the average growth rate of the Russian economy in terms of per capita GDP up to 1913 was 1,74 percent per year. Therefore, by the end of the 1920s, actual per capita income was a quarter lower than potential. And only in the late 1930s did the Soviet economy return to the pre-revolutionary trend. At the same time, she made the main breakthrough from 1933 to 1937.
    1. 0
      24 December 2018 03: 17
      Quote: Tomic3
      Moreover, she made the main breakthrough from 1933 to 1937

      Dzerzhinsky died in 1926. The national economy is at the very least, but has already been restored. Why did the jerk happen only from the 33rd year, and not much earlier?
      History is basically politicized. A number of circumstances are ignored or interpreted for the sake of various political predilections. Such a circumstance was the World Economic Crisis of 1929-1933. Indeed, it was thanks to this crisis that the beneficial cooperation between the USSR and the West was organized for US. Their crisis, which is called very useful to us, incidentally came. Comrade Stalin used it very competently. But for many, this was not even a jerk, but a leap into industrialization was incomprehensible and was perceived as something incomprehensible, something on the verge of a miracle.
      At a very good time, I.V. Stalin came to power in the USSR. A worthy leader of the USSR.
  41. 0
    22 December 2018 18: 44
    Therefore, the Stalinist industrialization touted by many only returned the country's economic power to its potential, nothing more.
  42. -2
    22 December 2018 21: 35
    Stalin managed to do the almost impossible.

    Yes, impossible, by the end of 1941 the Red Army was defeated, lost 7 people in the first six months of the war:
    2 people were killed and wounded (100% of all losses).
    3 800 000 - prisoners (about 45% of all losses).
    1 - 000 - deserters evading the front and captivity

    We must believe the recognition of Marshal Zhukov:
    ,, But one cannot deny that the Americans drove us so much material without which we could not form our reserves and could not continue the war ...
    We had no explosives, gunpowder.
    There was nothing to equip rifle cartridges. The Americans really helped us out with gunpowder, explosives.
    And how much they drove us to sheet steel!
    How could we quickly set up tank production if it weren’t for American steel help? .... ,,
    1. -3
      22 December 2018 22: 57
      Quote: alta
      The Red Army was defeated, lost 7 people in the first six months of the war:

      This was not a problem for the USSR. They would also have gained 7,5 million.
      The problem was hardware support. And serious, because the USSR was not capable of anything else but a small local war and a "Stalinist blow". There was virtually nothing, from food and boots to high-octane gasoline, gunpowder and TNT.
      If the consumption of these (and not only) components went beyond what was prepared in the warehouses, that's all, the USSR came to the kirdyk. Because "powerful Soviet industry" existed only in the propaganda campaigns of Sovagitprop.
      This happened in 1941. On September 24.09.1941, 2, the USSR was forced to end an independent German-Soviet war and enter 14.08.41MB on the side of the Anglo-Saxons. Although Roosevelt announced that this would happen as early as August 2, 4, i.e. in less than XNUMX months of waging war on their own, the Bolsheviks began to ask under the roof of the Anglo-Saxons. Stocks have run out. Further, the main supply of the Red Army went from other sources. And this is by no means XNUMX%, as Sovagitprop declared it.
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    3. +2
      23 December 2018 05: 45
      Quote: alta
      We must believe the recognition of Marshal Zhukov:

      In his memoirs Zhukov for help, about Lend-Lease wrote:
      No words, help with gunpowder, high-octane gasoline, some types of steel, vehicles and food, of course, played a positive role. But her specific weight was negligibleif we talk about the general needs of our country in the agreed volumes of supplies. As for the tanks and planes that the British and American governments supplied to us, frankly, they were not popular with our tankmen and pilots, especially tanks that burned like torches when working on gasoline.

      Any help is unconditional, even the smallest in this bloody war saved the life of a soldier or commander of the Red Army, brought Victory closer. And the Soviet Union gratefully accepted it.
      But exaggerate its significance, as many are now doing, is also not needed.
    4. 0
      24 December 2018 06: 33
      At the beginning of the war Zhukov was the beginning. General Staff. So he has no one to blame
  43. +3
    23 December 2018 03: 15
    Stalin won by building a just society for all people in Soviet Russia - the USSR. And the liberals hate him fiercely for this ... https: //mtdata.ru/u12/photo7007/20917692751-0/original.jpeg
  44. +2
    23 December 2018 20: 09
    Yes, unlike the current president, Stalin made a breakthrough. But the GDP is looking for everyone who would have made this breakthrough. He, as a leader, sets ambitious goals and ambitiously fails them (officials are bad). And who is pleased with the work of the Medvedev government? Vasya Pupkin?
    Some kind of split personality turns out.
  45. +2
    24 December 2018 06: 36
    Leaders like Stalin I.V. appear once every 1000 years. So we are lucky that we had it
    1. -4
      24 December 2018 14: 13
      The photo in the article is a double of I. Stalin. I.V. Stalin in the history of Russia is ambiguous and similar to Peter -1. The empire expanded, but the people completely bled and drove them into poverty ... The state needs many decades to at least restore its strength to its previous level without development ... The consequences of the extermination of the best strata of Russian citizens accused and robbed of Russia - the Russian Federation All this is incorporated in the Stalinist rule - bleeding and destruction of the upper layer of society and in the sense of the leadership of Russia. are felt today. Therefore, in the government of the Russian Federation, the majority are not Russians, and often citizens with Israeli passports, because. there is no one to rule and remove them from power, destroyed and there is no continuation ...
  46. 0
    25 December 2018 20: 53
    [quote = waqsa] The USSR was a country that all working humanity looked with hope at and that all non-working people hated. [/ quo
    Judging by the comments, they still hate him - how afraid they are that they will one day ask for everything laughing laughing
  47. +1
    26 December 2018 08: 55
    Was there a personality cult in the USSR? It was. But there was a Person.
  48. 0
    26 December 2018 17: 28
    based on the basic principles of the Russian matrix code, that is, social justice and ethics of conscience.
    That's just nothing like Stalin never did, which ultimately ruined the great project. Neither ethics nor conscience were welcomed in the USSR, much less used in the production and resolution of various issues. Alas.
    We've made progress in equality, that's right. But that's all. And as for the rest ... "without a piece of paper you are an insect! And with a piece of paper a man ..." If anyone used conscience at the level of government, it was Tsarist Russia. Excuse me ...
  49. 0
    26 December 2018 19: 23
    The Red Emperor and really a Slave on the Throne.
  50. 0
    11 February 2019 15: 19
    VO took over the constant practice of "trolling" readers with this controversial topic for many!
    Provoke comments and debate. Let them curse, scold, write hundreds of comments!
    Thus, the readers rating of the publication is maintained ....
    It would not be necessary to quarrel, but to bring together different opinions.
  51. -1
    24 February 2019 15: 05
    Another set of primitive slogans. It is clear why communist ideas became the lot of narrow-minded marginalized people.
  52. 0
    19 March 2019 14: 24
    there is nothing to argue here. a great man, and deeds, too. All opponents of I.V. Stalin completely forget at what time he had to raise the country. look at his affairs from the point of view of the current realities of the day. but it’s also impossible. At that time there was a completely different country and a different world. here is P.M. , and civilian, and most importantly millions of men who went through the crucible of two wars. Human life was not worth anything. on hand, a lot of small arms. A man doesn’t need any power at all, neither red nor white. Well, if only anarchists. rob everyone, and, going home, divide the goods. Illiteracy is terrible. It’s a dense savagery; it’s simply terrifying to read the early Chekhov when he was a zemstvo doctor. infant mortality, epidemics, outbreaks of sexually transmitted diseases, and not just gonorrhea, but syphilis, in its final stages. plus, our original, maybe, I suppose, yes, somehow,,. and how, in such conditions, to raise the country? I wonder what methods? I had to start everything from scratch. Learn by myself and teach others. Here's an educational program for you. There is no electricity in the country, this is GERLO's plan. and so on in everything. Some industries had to be created from scratch, for example, chemical industry. and for it it is necessary to train, starting from engineers, ending with ordinary workers. so, to fools, everything seems simple, that we should build a house! let's draw, let's live,,. no, it’s not that simple at all. To do such a gigantic job on the eve of the coming war, one must be truly great.