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Experts ask themselves the question: Does the Russian Federation recognize LDNR in response to the creation of the Kosovo armed forces?

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It became quite obvious that the Pristina initiative to create a Kosovo army is in fact an initiative of the main ideologues of Kosovo (Albanian) separatism, which are located across the ocean. During an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council on the Kosovo issue, the political coordinator of the US permanent mission in the organization (his name was Rodney Hunter) expressed support for the idea of ​​creating full-fledged Kosovo armed forces.


Experts ask themselves the question: Does the Russian Federation recognize LDNR in response to the creation of the Kosovo armed forces?


According to him, "an independent Kosovo has the right to have its own full-fledged army."

Rodney Hunter quotes TASS:
The United States reaffirms its support for a gradual, transparent transition to professional, multinational, NATO-related forces that serve and represent all of Kosovo’s communities.


Recall that on the eve of the "president" of Kosovo, Hashim Thaci said that he would "allocate" the 5-percent quota for ethnic Serbs as part of the Kosovo army.

The initiative to create an army of Kosovo contradicts the UN resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999, but the representative of the United States said that he did not see any contradiction.

Experts note that if Kosovo builds its army by violating the UN Security Council resolution, this could lead to a new armed conflict in the Balkans.

It also adds that Russia will not disregard this step of the United States. What could be the Russian answer? According to one of the expert versions, against the background of all the evolving events with Washington’s provocative actions, Russia can go for recognition of the independence of the people's republics of Donbass with simultaneous support in the formation of full-fledged state structures in these republics (including army ones). But for now this is only an expert opinion, which for a number of reasons may have nothing to do with what the authorities of Russia mean by answer. If any answer at all will be.

Recall that earlier in Moscow they made it clear that Russia cannot be "greater Serbia than Serbia itself."

On the eve of President Vladimir Putin held a meeting with the permanent members of the Security Council of the Russian Federation on the situation in the Balkans and Ukraine.
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  1. Cheslav Tsursky
    Cheslav Tsursky 18 December 2018 08: 23
    +4
    The statement of the question "recognizes in response" is not correct. Russia recognizes Novorossia without it, but of course the creation of an army of Albanian separatists will be an additional argument in the foreign policy field.
    1. just exp
      just exp 18 December 2018 08: 30
      -2
      let it not be. because it’s short-lived, after 5 years there will be no ruin, there will be the Kiev Federal District (money is already being saved for it). and Kosovo is for a long time.
      and we don’t need that in 10-30 years in response to our presentation on Kosovo mattresses answered us - you recognized the LPR.
      1. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 18 December 2018 08: 58
        +4
        Quote: just explo
        and we don’t need that in 10-30 years in response to our presentation on Kosovo mattresses answered us - you recognized the LPR.

        You think in 10-30 years the US will continue to impose sanctions request What will they show when their sanctions run out request And at such a pace they have everything that can be presented to us will end earlier than in 10 years
        1. just exp
          just exp 18 December 2018 09: 02
          -1
          it’s not about sanctions, but about propaganda.
          for they make themselves cute and fluffy, and we are so angry and aggressive.
          and when there is a dispute, debate, debate, between people, politicians in the media, or else, the arguments are equally valid for both sides (this does not work with the sacraments, no one asks the other side there), and if they have counterargument to our argument, then this is already bad.
          and why should we give them this counterargument when recognition of LDNR will not give us anything, and in a couple of years it will still be the Russian Federation?
          1. 41 REGION
            41 REGION 18 December 2018 09: 09
            +1
            Quote: just explo
            and why should we give them this counterargument when recognition of LDNR will not give us anything, and in a couple of years it will still be the Russian Federation?

            I am not a government, so I can’t give any argument yes The government is unlikely to recognize it in the near future, although they could recognize LDNR as a response to the imposition of sanctions against us, and in this vein this is our counterargument wink Everything is relative in this life. drinks
            1. just exp
              just exp 18 December 2018 09: 12
              -2
              But what does the government have to do with it?
              to take at least the situation when a NATO representative came to Solovyov and there he leaked to us at the debate, and leaked because he really had nothing to put up with ours.
              and if you give them counterarguments, then they will have something to say in return and their line will be - maybe we are {cut out by censorship}, but you are the same.
              and recognition of LDNR will not give us ANYTHING. NOTHING.
              1. 41 REGION
                41 REGION 18 December 2018 09: 19
                +1
                Quote: just explo
                But what does the government have to do with it?

                Despite the fact that the government recognizes or does not recognize, and no one will ask us and you yes
                and if you give them counterarguments

                And where do I write it request
                I have written that it is necessary to introduce it as their counterarguments yes
                repeat:
                although they could recognize LDNR as a response to the imposition of sanctions against us, and in this vein this is our counterargument wink

                Read carefully .............................................
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 18 December 2018 19: 47
                  +2
                  Donbas and Lugansk it is high time to recognize it regardless of what NATO is doing there in Kosovo.
                  And build good neighborly relations with them without Kiev mediators.
        2. zloybond
          zloybond 18 December 2018 10: 07
          +3
          Anyway, it's time to create a movement for the recognition of New Russia. And then they will mumble about the Minsk agreements.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 18 December 2018 09: 14
        +6
        Quote: just explo
        let it not be. for it’s not long, after 5 years there will be no ruin

        I hear that Ukraine is about to fall apart already 10 years ago ... however, as about America ... Ukraine is not needed for a long time, Ukraine is needed until the moment when the percentage of those who hate Russia does not grow from 30%, as it is now, to 80% and then they will be sent to us like cattle for slaughter ..
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 18 December 2018 09: 26
          -2
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: just explo
          let it not be. for it’s not long, after 5 years there will be no ruin

          I hear that Ukraine is about to fall apart already 10 years ago ... however, as about America ... Ukraine is not needed for a long time, Ukraine is needed until the moment when the percentage of those who hate Russia does not grow from 30%, as it is now, to 80% and then they will be sent to us like cattle for slaughter ..

          Ukraine did not wait for you for 6 years. Crimea for 4 year your expectation left and Donbass too. Excuse me. "Prophet" You are our ...
      3. Warrior Hamilton
        Warrior Hamilton 18 December 2018 09: 18
        +1
        Quote: just explo
        let it not be. for it’s not long, after 5 years there will be no ruin

        The Patriotic War also did not last long, only 4 years, so they will suffer any 5 years .....
        Quote: just explo
        and Kosovo is for a long time.
        and we don’t need that in 10-30 years in response to our presentation on Kosovo mattresses answered us - you recognized the LPR.

        So, it’s better to take all the chiki-buns with money good soldier
    2. demo
      demo 18 December 2018 09: 38
      +2
      To whom is this "argument" interesting and important?
      Those who lead their part, sometimes rudely, sometimes "out of notes", sometimes from a different score altogether, will not listen to our assurances and conclusions.
      What is permitted to Zeus is not permitted to the bull.
      This expression characterizes the current state of affairs in the world.
      Now, if the bull lifts Zeus on the horns, then the matter will change.
      But I do not observe the desires of the bull.
      New Year on the nose!
    3. buywol
      buywol 18 December 2018 11: 25
      +3
      Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
      The statement of the question "recognizes in response" is not correct. Russia recognizes Novorossia without it, but of course the creation of an army of Albanian separatists will be an additional argument in the foreign policy field.

      Lavrov’s answer to the recognition of LDNR read? There he gave a definite answer to the account of recognition, no. The Russian government will give a damn about the death of Russian people here, the main west does not touch their loot.
  2. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 18 December 2018 08: 23
    +2
    No, he doesn’t recognize, Lavrov explained everything to the patriots yesterday, later.
  3. olhon
    olhon 18 December 2018 08: 24
    +12
    Concern and concern again. No more.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 December 2018 08: 26
    +7
    Stripes are like pyromaniacs, they set fire to everything that can burn. Just farther from your home ... I just want to "throw a felt boot on the remote control", as in an old anecdote about the Strategic Missile Forces ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 December 2018 08: 32
      +2
      Wait, the times are not those when you could hide behind a puddle.
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 18 December 2018 08: 46
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Striped like pyromancers set fire to everything that can burn.

      Self-ignition will occur - do not give a fire extinguisher, do not call firefighters! soldier
      1. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 18 December 2018 09: 00
        +3
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Self-ignition will occur - do not give a fire extinguisher, do not call firefighters! soldier

        Throw firewood, coal, pour gasoline, etc. etc. laughing hi
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 18 December 2018 09: 07
          +4
          hi
          Quote: 41 REGION
          Throw firewood, coal, pour gasoline, etc. etc.

          - Dad, why does grandma over there in the sea wave her hands and shout?
          - Son, because someone is a grandmother, and someone is a mother-in-law. You wave too - say goodbye ...
          1. 41 REGION
            41 REGION 18 December 2018 09: 13
            +2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            You wave too - say goodbye ...

            laughing It’s time to say goodbye to this striped mother-in-law for a long time, but it still doesn’t sink recourse
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 18 December 2018 09: 20
              +3
              Quote: 41 REGION
              it does not sink yet

              So, as long as "it" is swimming in the same "one", it will not sink. Do not think that I am aggressive - but with the disappearance of the United States as a hegemon and dictator, the air on the planet will become cleaner!
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 18 December 2018 09: 14
            0
            I never understood such idiotic, hateful anecdotes about mother-in-law, about mother-in-law.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 18 December 2018 09: 42
              +3
              Quote: Sergej1972
              I never understood such idiotic, hateful anecdotes about mother-in-law, about mother-in-law.

              So you are lucky with the mother-in-law, and your wife with the mother-in-law.
            2. demo
              demo 18 December 2018 10: 07
              0
              You are lucky!
              And many still understand and appreciate such jokes.
              God grant you not to experience what many have experienced.
              Do you understand that a joke is an expression of a tendency formed on the basis of a multiplicity of facts !?
  5. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 18 December 2018 08: 36
    +4
    The more instability and lack of unity in Europe, the better for the US, the old proven method. Russia, as always, is watching. What steps will be taken apart from protests and concerns?
    1. Ampere
      Ampere 18 December 2018 08: 52
      0
      Which, for a number of reasons, has nothing to do with what the answer means the Russian authorities. If there is any answer at all.
  6. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 18 December 2018 08: 47
    0
    It is also added that Russia will not disregard this step by the United States. What could be the Russian answer?

    If any answer at all will be.

    And everything is in order, we in our invincible Foreign Ministry stocked up with preoccupations and regrets.
    Russia can go on to recognize the independence of the People’s Republics of Donbass while supporting the formation of full-fledged state structures in these republics (including army ones)

    That would not be bad. Only with a prerequisite for the displacement of the Poroshenko regime and the dismemberment of the entire territory of Ukraine into small states. wink
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2018 08: 58
    +3
    ideologists of Kosovo (Albanian) separatism, located overseas.
    This American animal, anti-human policy every day pushes the world to new and new armed conflicts. Just they can not understand that today overseas opportunities to sit out are not expected. And the American people, who are held not only by the idiot but also the hostage, must be aware of this, with the expectation that Russia, by its generosity, will not respond to the American strike.
  8. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 18 December 2018 09: 02
    +4
    The worst thing in creating this army is that it, like a vacuum cleaner, will absorb a lot of radical Islamists with vast experience in military operations in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen .... and no one will ask for citizenship or anything else .... and in the end we get on the map of Europe a terrible ulcer
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 18 December 2018 09: 04
    +3
    Our deficiencies are very bad for us and end!
    Unfinished always there are those who want to flip, reverse!
    Most importantly, people who for the most part have already made the final choice suffer!
  10. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 18 December 2018 09: 05
    +1
    Lavrov announced yesterday that the Russian Federation would not recognize LDNR for fear of losing Ukraine. I did not expect from an experienced diplomat. that he will freeze obvious stupidity, because you can only lose what you have. And Ukraine is just overseas partners of Lavrov. Maybe Lavrov hopes that someday we will establish friendly relations with Ukraine? You do not need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand that in the foreseeable future this will never happen. Across the ocean is not foolish. To release such an enviable prey as Ukraine. On the contrary, we will wait until the appearance of American military bases in Ukraine, about which Lavrov will express his deepest regret.
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 18 December 2018 09: 27
      0
      You do not understand Lavrov, or you specifically. Lavrov, for example, the German authorities noted and stated that we want the same diplomat. Can he work with us afterwards and will represent the interests of Germany. It’s hard for you to understand it. Getting old I am not forty, but I understand and support him!
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 18 December 2018 10: 19
        +3
        Ruslan! When you want someone to oppose something to your opponent, you need to submit not assumptions about the state of mind and age of the opponent, but arguments in support of your opinion. Frankly speaking, I myself would not mind if someone refuted my opinions, but not like you. I perfectly understand that the diplomat does not say everything that he knows, and I am not trying to penetrate the secrets of the Kremlin. But I have the right to respond to how our policy is presented to the people. because in the end I'm a voter. And the idea that Russia has the right to defend its national interests, but Russia is still weak (is it interesting how long it takes to strengthen Russia?) Is being advanced to the masses, so we should not twitch, but we need to deal with the economy, but somehow it’s very slow, so as not to offend anyone (except the people). But this policy does not logically lead to victory, because its basis is concessions and verbal tinsel.
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 18 December 2018 10: 23
          -1
          Mikhail, I will once again tell you Lavrov a brilliant diplomat and this can be seen with the naked eye. In Germany, people envy us that we have such a Foreign Minister. There are no fools sitting if they want to transfer him to Germany as a football player. What is your argument?
          1. Leshy1975
            Leshy1975 18 December 2018 11: 26
            0
            Quote: Tank jacket
            Mikhail, I will once again tell you Lavrov a brilliant diplomat and this can be seen with the naked eye. In Germany, people envy us that we have such a Foreign Minister. There are no fools sitting if they want to transfer him to Germany as a football player. What is your argument?

            Because Lavrov really declared not just stupidity, but such a dimension STUPIDITY. And he stated the following (source KP):
            "If we want to keep Ukraine as a neutral country, we must make sure that everyone who lives in Ukraine is in a comfortable state."
            "We are not at war with the Ukrainian regime. Citizens of Ukraine who live in Donbass are at war with the Ukrainian regime, which has all the features of the Nazi and neo-Nazi."

            And now let's think and ask questions arising from Lavrov’s statements.

            1) how he imagines the preservation of a neutral Ukraine, which he himself defines as neo-Nazi, especially with an explicit Russophobic state policy.
            For reference: Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including chauvinism, fascism, racism, xenophobia, homophobia and anti-Semitism. The denial of the Holocaust is its characteristic, as well as, for example, the use of Nazi symbols and the praise of Adolf Hitler. This is due to the rise of the movements of NS-skinheads in many countries of the world. Will everything resolve itself?
            2) the phrase "everyone who lives in Ukraine was in a comfortable state" should be taken literally? Those. will we help those groups in Ukrainian society who declare their aim to destroy Russians? And medals and gum. help, if necessary, including those who burned and killed the Russian people in the Odessa House of Trade Unions, too? If everyone.

            to the question of journalist D. Aslamova: "When will we finally recognize the DPR and LPR?" Lavrov replied: "And you want to lose the rest of Ukraine, leave it to the Nazis?"
            Let's ask questions:
            1) and now, we did not leave it to the Nazis? He himself declared that there is neo-Nazism !!!
            2) according to Lavrov, it turns out that if we recognize the DPR and LPR, then we will lose the rest of Ukraine. How shoud I understand this? The rest will be offended? And what about Crimea, have already been forgiven in Ukraine and do not remember ?!

            "I want to explain to you once again. Now we are obliged to fulfill the Minsk agreements. And the treachery of the West has manifested itself ..."
            I don’t even want to analyze these long-term mantras about the Minsk agreements and the betrayal of the West. This song will be "eternal".

            journalist D. Aslamova's question: "But what are we going to do when our priests are killed?"
            Lavrov's answer: "We will not be at war with Ukraine, I promise you that."
            1) that our priests, Lavrov does not even argue with this, i.e. recognizes ours.
            2) it turns out that whichever of us (but as I understand it is not them, the highest authorities of the Russian Federation) would not be killed, there is nothing to do at the top, we are only worthy of concern.

            and another "snack" from Lavrov: "I understand that if we break off all relations with this regime now, yes, in the village of Zaitsevo they will rejoice for a week. And then what will happen? Then you will explain why we lost Ukraine for a progressive, civilized humanity."
            Who's that talking about? Whose interests are we looking for? It's simple BOTTOM.

            Who cares, read the text of the interview yourself. In part of Ukraine, this is a disgrace.

            And yet, to understand the completeness of the picture.
            In Ukraine, this interview is already "savoring" in full. In the sense that this is precisely why we do not want with the Russian Federation, that there is kidnyak and terpilki, and you (Donbass) are not getting anything good, come back on good terms.
            In the Donbass, in the comments, bitterness and hopelessness.
            In the Russian Federation, even with quite about power political scientists (for example, Vlad Shurygin). I will not bring it, there with obscenities, I do not want to get a ban. If you wish, find it and read it yourself.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 18 December 2018 11: 54
              0
              Point by point:
              1) how he imagines the preservation of a neutral Ukraine, which he himself defines as neo-Nazi, especially with an explicit Russophobic state policy.
              Answer: "We are not at war with the Ukrainian regime. Citizens of Ukraine who live in Donbass are at war with the Ukrainian regime, which has all the features of the Nazi and neo-Nazi." Hybrid support and support LDNR, gum. convoys.
              2) "I understand that if we break off all relations with this regime now, yes, the village of Zaitsevo will be happy for a week. And then what will happen? Then you will explain why we have lost Ukraine for progressive, civilized humanity."
              Who's that talking about? Whose interests are we looking for?
              Answer: progressive, civilized humanity-Russia and all who supported the resolution against the glorification of Nazism.
              1. Leshy1975
                Leshy1975 18 December 2018 12: 30
                0
                Quote: Tank jacket
                Point by point:
                1) how he imagines the preservation of a neutral Ukraine, which he himself defines as neo-Nazi, especially with an explicit Russophobic state policy.
                Answer: "We are not at war with the Ukrainian regime. Citizens of Ukraine who live in Donbass are at war with the Ukrainian regime, which has all the features of the Nazi and neo-Nazi." Hybrid support and support LDNR, gum. convoys.
                2) "I understand that if we break off all relations with this regime now, yes, the village of Zaitsevo will be happy for a week. And then what will happen? Then you will explain why we have lost Ukraine for progressive, civilized humanity."
                Who's that talking about? Whose interests are we looking for?
                Answer: progressive, civilized humanity-Russia and all who supported the resolution against the glorification of Nazism.

                1) You can not fight the Ukrainian regime, but if it is Nazi and Russophobic (you will not argue with this?), Then it can hardly be NEUTRAL with respect to the Russian Federation !!! Precisely because it is already Russophobian and Nazi! Nazi doctrine includes including chauvinism, fascism, racism, xenophobia, homophobia and anti-Semitism.
                Xenophobia (from the Greek. Ξένος "alien" + φόβος "fear") - hostility to someone or someone else's; perception of someone else as unpleasant. Raised to the rank of worldview, it can cause hostility on the basis of national, religious or social division of people.
                HOW, I ask you, IT can be neutral ?! Especially in relation to the Russian Federation?
                2) It's really funny here. In your opinion, Lavrov suggests explaining to yourself. And often, in your opinion, he talks to himself and explains to himself. So and before the visit to the doctor is not far away.

                Do not try to fashion something smart out of stupidity (Lavrov’s statement), it’s empty, there’s nothing to do with it.
                1. Tank jacket
                  Tank jacket 18 December 2018 13: 20
                  -4
                  1. Are we officially fighting with Ukraine?
                  I like it, I don’t like it, value judgments — when the countries do not officially fight — the relations between them are officially neutral laughing
                  "Do not try to mold something smart out of stupidity (Lavrov's statement), it’s empty, there’s nothing."
                  2. Question: Do you think Lavrov is stupid? laughing
                  1. Leshy1975
                    Leshy1975 18 December 2018 13: 49
                    -1
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    1. Are we officially fighting with Ukraine?
                    I like it, I don’t like it, value judgments — when the countries do not officially fight — the relations between them are officially neutral laughing
                    "Do not try to mold something smart out of stupidity (Lavrov's statement), it’s empty, there’s nothing."
                    2. Question: Do you think Lavrov is stupid? laughing

                    1) The question concerned the neutral status of present Ukraine, which is impossible under the current regime. I think you agree with that.
                    2) I find his last interview with KP stupid (because of his answers to questions from journalists). I myself do not think it is stupid. It’s just that the Kremlin’s policy, in this case in Ukraine, looks completely stupid that even Lavrov couldn’t say anything inspiring and smart to justify such a policy. That's all the conclusions.
  11. smaug78
    smaug78 18 December 2018 09: 37
    +3
    Lavrov yesterday answered this question in the negative. Why is this article needed?
  12. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 18 December 2018 09: 38
    0
    If any answer at all will be.


    Key phrase. Will there be an answer?
  13. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 18 December 2018 09: 49
    +1
    It means a boom to demand that every Indian reservation, every state can have own the army.
  14. Larum
    Larum 18 December 2018 10: 04
    0
    What stupid thing? - calls, does not recognize ... and even in response to Kosovo
    The current situation is beneficial, so it will remain for now.

    Stupid article
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 18 December 2018 10: 28
    0
    Serbs have long needed to become conventional "300 Spartans", and not look towards the EU, then there will be respect for them. And then they hang out like horseradish in the washstand, and yours and ours, and we'll sing and dance.
  16. loginovich
    loginovich 18 December 2018 10: 30
    +1
    Experts ask themselves the question: Does the Russian Federation recognize LDNR in response to the creation of the Kosovo armed forces?
    I advise experts not to bathe LDNL leaked GDP back in 2014.
  17. kakvastam
    kakvastam 18 December 2018 10: 43
    +2
    Lavrov seemed to quite intelligibly explain that no one was going to recognize anyone.
  18. snake
    snake 18 December 2018 11: 25
    0
    Experts ask themselves the question: Does the Russian Federation recognize LDNR in response to the creation of the Kosovo armed forces?

    You know, not only experts are occupied with this issue. Russian Russians are also interested in this topic.
  19. Berg berg
    Berg berg 18 December 2018 11: 41
    +1
    Russia has long recognized New Russia, but not officially! And support will still not be from the authorities, but from the people! The question is, you only need one coast or all your native land, not shreds !?
  20. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 18 December 2018 14: 04
    -1
    1) The question concerned the neutral status of present Ukraine, which is impossible under the current regime. I think you agree with that.

    Answer: I do not agree, officially Russia and Ukraine are neutral states.

    2) I find his last interview with KP stupid (because of his answers to questions from journalists).

    What kind of answers do you think is his last interview stupid?

    Next is your value judgment.

    “I don’t think he’s stupid. It’s just that the Kremlin’s policy, in this case in Ukraine, looks completely stupid that even Lavrov couldn’t say anything inspiring and clever to justify such a policy. That's all the conclusions. [/ Quote]
    The silly policy of the Kremlin (who is this?) Is compared to an inspiring masterpiece. laughing
  21. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 19 December 2018 00: 39
    0
    and, as usual, everything is possible for mattresses and NATO! and nothing else for others. This is their democracy!