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In the Armed Forces of Ukraine declared a "devastating otvetka" and called the number of deaths in LDN

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Ukrainian security forces carried out the most massive shelling of the territory of the DPR in recent years. The report of the headquarters of the so-called Operation of the combined forces refers to the alleged "return fire". At the same time, the published facts about the losses give an obvious reason for doubting that the fire of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was exactly the "retaliatory."




The environmental protection headquarters declares that there are no casualties among the Ukrainian servicemen, and two wounded. In the same press release stated that the DNI forces suffered more serious losses - 8 killed and 3 injured. Fire on LDNR called "crushing otvetku."

Ukrainian troops fired on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic in the Mariupol-Novoazovsk and Donetsk directions. In addition, the territory of the Luhansk People's Republic was also shelled.

On the night of Monday (December 17), the Armed Forces of Ukraine not less than five times violated the cease-fire regime in the Luhansk area. The defense department of the LPR reports that the Ukrainian security forces fired at the villages of Donetsk and Frunze, as well as at the settlements of the Bold and Kalinovka. During the attacks, mortars of 120 and 82 mm calibers were used. Also used easel anti-tank grenade launchers.

The Ukrainian media are mostly enthusiastic about the murder of their compatriots in the Donbas by the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The day before, the head of the press service department of the DPR NM, Daniil Bezsonov, reported on the tense situation in the south. According to him, the assault was transferred to Berdyansk aviation. We are talking about Su-25 aircraft that were flown from the Melitopol airfield. Bezsonov also notes that as part of the 79th and 128th brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, SBU employees intensified their work. It is noted that the Ukrainian special services are trying to identify those who transmitted secret data to the DPR.
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press service of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
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  1. pvv113
    pvv113 17 December 2018 10: 40
    +18
    Something is not heard the groans of liberoid media. I’m silent about the West - they won’t notice it at all.
    1. Machito
      Machito 18 December 2018 21: 45
      +2
      Another peremogu, and the front stands rooted to the spot.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 18 December 2018 21: 59
        0
        Quote: Bearded
        Another Peremoga

        Dill learned to classify even its failures as great achievements. wink
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 17 December 2018 10: 44
    +9
    "The Armed Forces of Ukraine violated the ceasefire five times"

    Fivefold may be superior, but break five times.
    1. Stils
      Stils 17 December 2018 11: 16
      0
      If the DNI was violated once, then everything is correct)
    2. Slinqshot
      Slinqshot 17 December 2018 14: 17
      +5
      You're not right. In this case, I mean - repeated 5 times, and not more than 5 times. Learn Russian language.
      1. Stils
        Stils 17 December 2018 20: 40
        +3
        The Russian language needs to be taught to the one who cooked this news. Five times should have been replaced by "five times", then there would be no questions. Five times more often it is used as an adverb - "superior to five times." It is clear that after googling, all of us are masters of the Russian language!
        1. Slinqshot
          Slinqshot 18 December 2018 00: 16
          0
          What does "more often" mean? Let's get statistics - with numbers, calculations. And then we have found a non-googling guru of the Russian language, Stills. The adverb "five times" is permissible to use as the author used - the rest is your personal sexual difficulties. And one more thing - if you, due to your own ignorance, constantly use search engines, you don't need to project it onto others.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 17 December 2018 10: 46
    +4
    It will only be our headache, after all! With imperfections, it is always so.
  4. Anatol17
    Anatol17 17 December 2018 10: 49
    +8
    What else is “attack aviation” in Berdyansk? The local military airfield ceased to exist more than 20 years ago when a regiment of fighter aircraft was withdrawn from there. The passenger terminal ceased to exist simultaneously with it. Now there are only the remains of the runway. Well, you can’t bear such an open blizzard. .Yes, periodically it is a question of restoring the airfield, but so far this is nothing more than talk.
    1. The black
      The black 17 December 2018 11: 01
      +6
      A drunk pig doesn’t need elections .... it will be worse further. Unfortunately, the ukrovermah will drive its flock to slaughter for the sake of Poros, for the sake of prolonging the VP and canceling the elections. How many of these cattle will die at the same time - I do not care, but civilians will suffer and die, that’s bad ....
      The answer should be tough and convincing. I don’t know the guys from the DPR themselves can handle it or we will help them (and we must help), but not a single Nazi scum should remain on the territory of the LPR.
    2. Anatol17
      Anatol17 17 December 2018 12: 31
      +2
      By the way, there was never an SU-25 in Melitopol either; there is a regiment of military transport aviation.
      1. Random
        Random 17 December 2018 14: 55
        +2
        Quote: Anatol17
        By the way, there was never an SU-25 in Melitopol, there is a regiment of military transport aviation

        And what ... is this a "problem" for basing the Su-25s there? belay
    3. gurzuf
      gurzuf 17 December 2018 12: 42
      +4
      SU-25, carries everything with it for maintenance. So that he needs a runway for the intended use.
      1. Anatol17
        Anatol17 17 December 2018 12: 54
        -2
        I doubt it. What is the point of transferring attack aircraft from permanent bases to an airfield unsuitable for military aviation? To be closer? So what is the distance? For example, there is a tactical aviation brigade in Mirgorod, it’s only 300 km superfluous. Judging by everything, The DPR decided to make more noise. Maybe it is justified. But one should at least ask about the real state of affairs, and not make such mistakes, talking about the transfer of aircraft to the long-existing Berdyansk airfield.
        1. Pathos
          Pathos 17 December 2018 13: 22
          +4
          Well, here’s like in a joke: Winnipuh and a piglet are floating on a boat, blame on a paddle a piglet is sleeping. Vinny beats a patch on the snout with a paddle: - Piglet: for what? Vinnie: - you can expect everything from pigs laughing
          PS Well, you understand me laughing
          1. Fayter
            Fayter 17 December 2018 14: 17
            0
            The second option:
            -Shoes not sleep?
            - To the cellars!
        2. Random
          Random 17 December 2018 14: 47
          +6
          Quote: Anatol17
          What else is “attack aviation” in Berdyansk?

          Ordinary, in service with the 299th air brigade (Kulbakino, Nikolaev).
          Quote: Anatol17
          The local military airfield ceased to exist more than 20 years ago when a regiment of fighter aircraft was withdrawn from there.

          Not quite "fighter", and by 29, the 1990th UBAP was already in service with 62 Su-24s.) However, until 1985 it was almost "fighter" (MiG-21 and Su-17-e) wink
          Quote: Anatol17
          The passenger terminal ceased to exist simultaneously with it. Now there are only the remains of the runway.

          And why for an operational airfield .. a passenger terminal? The main thing is the runway and the parking area .... to drive the company, "screw up the" grass "in the seams, put the drive and ... sit down on the OSP in the PMU.
          ATO funds will arrive on their own from Zaporozhye
          What is the problem or ... "blizzard"? wassat
          1. Anatol17
            Anatol17 17 December 2018 15: 30
            +1
            It’s a blizzard. In Berdyansk, nothing can be based for a simple reason - for a long time there has not been a military airfield as such. Only the remains of the runway. There you need to build a new one.
            1. Random
              Random 17 December 2018 15: 33
              +4
              Quote: Anatol17
              Nothing can be based in Berdyansk for a simple reason - for a long time there has not been a military airfield as such

              Now it's too lazy to look for pictures from 2015 ... there are runways and taxiways and MDs ... and in order to "sit" there, I wrote you a list of events ... if you "want", you only need a DAY, so that this airfield would become acting soldier
              1. Anatol17
                Anatol17 17 December 2018 15: 59
                +5
                Yes, I am writing - I AM LIVING THERE. On the runway in such a state in which it can’t land anything today and fly up too. Maybe something will be done once, there was talk about it, although only about civil - a couple of years ago there were some negotiations with Akhmetov’s structures. In Mariupol, it’s not working right now, but there are two ports nearby. Like, there will be such a logistics hub. Well, it eventually died out. And certainly nothing came to us and could not fly.
                1. Random
                  Random 17 December 2018 16: 21
                  +3
                  Quote: Anatol17
                  On the runway in the state in which it today can’t land and fly, too.

                  Well, it remains to take your word drinks Although what could be wrong with the runway? Plates stole ... then yes ... that's the problem wink
                  So you want to say that even in Mariupol there is no airfield as such? belay
                  1. Anatol17
                    Anatol17 17 December 2018 16: 35
                    +4
                    In Mariupol there is, and in a completely working condition. But it is not used because of the proximity to the anti-terrorist operation zone, that is, the danger of its use. And the plates at us, yes, partially parted.
                    1. Random
                      Random 17 December 2018 16: 37
                      +3
                      Quote: Anatol17
                      But it is not used because of proximity to the anti-terrorist operation zone

                      Well this is understandable ... although the turntables could be "placed" .... until ... "discovered" bully
        3. Random
          Random 17 December 2018 15: 09
          +5
          Quote: Anatol17
          I doubt. What is the point of transferring attack aircraft from places of permanent deployment to an airfield unsuitable for combat aircraft? To get closer? So what are the distances?

          And in order not to "doubt", take a ruler and a map in your hand and ... measure the distance, then "somewhere" or from "someone" you will find out the tactical range of the Su-25 at low altitude and ..... . get answers to all your questions and .. "doubts" wink
          Quote: Anatol17
          Say, in Mirgorod there is a tactical aviation brigade, it’s only 300 km of superfluous

          This is precisely the tactical range at low altitude without PTB (i.e. on one "internal fuel) soldier
          And by the way, Poltava is even closer, and if Kramatorsk were "alive", then in general ... "side by side" would .. "sit" sad
          Therefore, when the "dill" still used aviation against the LPR and the DPR, they relocated to the Chuguev airfields (the former HVVAUL_ airfield and Dnepropetrovsk (joint-Kaydaki) wink
          1. Anatol17
            Anatol17 17 December 2018 15: 36
            +2
            C'mon, the SU-25 will not fly from Mirgorod to the ATO zone and vice versa? Also with a margin. I can only repeat that only slabs remained from the airfield in Berdyansk. In order to get an airfield from this, you need to rebuild everything. In Melitopol, however, it’s based military transport aircraft. Well, it can be assumed that combat will be based in Melitopol. But about Berdyansk stupidity. I live here and personally saw what he is like today.
            1. Anatol17
              Anatol17 17 December 2018 15: 52
              +3
              So the "news" about the transfer of any aircraft from Melitopol to the nonexistent airfield of Berdyansk is definitely a fake. The DNR leadership needs to take a more responsible approach to its statements.
              1. Random
                Random 17 December 2018 16: 33
                0
                Quote: Anatol17
                So the "news" about the transfer of any aircraft from Melitopol to the nonexistent airfield of Berdyansk is definitely a fake

                In principle, we can agree with you, since Melitopol and Berdyansk are practically nearby ... and it is incomparably better to be based in Melitopol, and even Donetsk is ... "within reach" soldier
            2. Random
              Random 17 December 2018 16: 28
              +2
              Quote: Anatol17
              C'mon, the SU-25 will not fly from Mirgorod to the ATO zone and vice versa?

              No soldier Unless you hang the 4th PTB and at high altitude, but take just a couple of FAB-250s and a couple of UBs and then ... just for one run and go home fast soldier
              I don’t understand ... A runway with slabs whole? ... so what else do you need?
              Quote: Anatol17
              In order to get an airfield from this, you need to rebuild everything

              I have described everything for you in detail ... "what is needed for this" ... you either did not read carefully or did not understand ... then here's a "movie" ... look ... maybe you will understand that in order to "get an airfield, you need to build everything anew "... NO NEED TO BUILD AGAIN soldier
              1. Anatol17
                Anatol17 17 December 2018 16: 40
                +2
                The fact of the matter is that the runway with the plates is not a whole, the plates are partially pulled apart.
                1. Random
                  Random 17 December 2018 16: 47
                  +2
                  Quote: Anatol17
                  The fact of the matter is that the runway with the plates is not a whole, the plates are partially pulled apart.

                  Then yes .. I agree ... although depending on where it was taken away and how much "working" runway length remained wink now the temperatures are low, so the takeoff run will be "shorter", but the run on the Su-25 is already ... normal soldier
                  So if there are "live" 600-700 meters of runway, then in winter it is quite possible good , well, from the ground (though it needs to be prepared "and 1000 meters ..." behind the eyes " soldier
                  1. Anatol17
                    Anatol17 17 December 2018 17: 07
                    +3
                    Well, maybe there are such plans, but so far nothing has been done for sure. The city is small, it would immediately have become known.
  5. Conductor
    Conductor 17 December 2018 10: 50
    +2
    And who is there, if this is about the offensive, speaks of fraternal peoples?
    1. Free man
      Free man 17 December 2018 10: 56
      +14
      This was the case in the history of Russia - Novgorodians and Kiev were chopped into cabbage. Current events are sad, but not unique. We will shed blood to each other, but in the end everything will be fine, Kiev will be Russian again. IMHO.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 17 December 2018 11: 42
        +4
        Quote: Free man
        In the history of Russia, this was

        You are right, everything is old as the world, only this is a new type of hybrid civil war in Ukraine, what is its hybridity? oligarchs on both sides push their brothers' foreheads with the help of the media, and they are happy to try. Now, if the good fellows Poroshenko and Akhmetov had gone out into the field, they would have hit their foreheads and the earth shook so much and sparks fell from their eyes. That was the case. But this is a fairy tale)))))
        The media is a terrible force, because in such a war, any two regions of the Russian Federation can be pitted against each other. It is enough for the third force to throw some money to the local corrupt oligarchs - businessmen, and the crowd will go to the crowd.
  6. Jerk
    Jerk 17 December 2018 10: 50
    +1
    Come on. Against the background of the usual fairy tales for them earlier, "it was they who fired at themselves" - no, but progress
  7. NordUral
    NordUral 17 December 2018 10: 51
    +4
    What are the retaliatory strikes? Donetsk residents have to cruelly respond to such "retaliatory" bandit shelling.
  8. sabakina
    sabakina 17 December 2018 11: 11
    -4
    What kind of miracle weapon is an easel anti-tank grenade launcher?
    1. fuel oil
      fuel oil 17 December 2018 11: 17
      -5
      There is also a caterpillar anti-personnel rifle, I think ...
    2. Aloemc
      Aloemc 17 December 2018 11: 17
      +7
      Quote: sabakina
      What kind of miracle weapon is an easel anti-tank grenade launcher?

      SPG-9 (in common people - "Boot"), for example.
    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 17 December 2018 11: 26
      -2
      Quote: sabakina
      What kind of miracle weapon is an easel anti-tank grenade launcher?

      Most likely there is no comma or "and" between easel and anti-tank ... Or SPG-9.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 December 2018 11: 45
      +3
      Quote: sabakina
      What kind of miracle weapon is an easel anti-tank grenade launcher?

      SPG-9 "Spear" - Soviet easel anti-tank grenade launcher. Adopted in 1963
    5. 72jora72
      72jora72 17 December 2018 11: 49
      +6
      What kind of miracle weapon is an easel anti-tank grenade launcher?
      I understand that you did not serve in the army. At a glance I can name SPG-82, SPG-9 "Spear" (9M, 9D, 9N), PF98, Tarasnice T21 ...............
      1. pvs512
        pvs512 17 December 2018 17: 46
        +1
        Of the latter - probably the laser "Cornet", also easel. But dill hardly has such.
    6. Vasily Yurievich
      Vasily Yurievich 18 December 2018 22: 03
      0
      . What kind of miracle weapon is an easel anti-tank grenade launcher?


      Perhaps you misunderstood the adjective "easel". For example, they took the word "tank" as its basis, not "machine tool" ... :)
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 December 2018 11: 16
    +3
    named "devastating response"
    Such statements solely for raising morale to ourselves no more. How tired they are, especially over the past five years.
  10. Sergg
    Sergg 17 December 2018 13: 14
    +4
    The most important thing to prevent the Russian leadership from assisting the fascist outskirts if misfortune happens to them, and misfortune happens to them, the business of the near future. If the Kremlin provides assistance to the Outskirts, it will be a betrayal of the Russian people, who themselves constantly need help.
  11. Avior
    Avior 17 December 2018 13: 49
    +2
    like old posts in Soviet newspapers from the Iran-Iraq war.
    every day the parties report on their successes, as if you’re not reading messages from the same war
  12. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 17 December 2018 14: 06
    -1
    And what prevents to beat the concentrated forces of Bandera? If again this notorious Minsk, then this is stupid.
  13. O. Bender
    O. Bender 17 December 2018 14: 40
    +6
    The SBU is looking for informants who have merged the su25 transfer !? Clowns! Read the apostrophe, there is all the info in the direct access. Kindergarten, GARBAGE! In Mariupol, the stirring of the school students and other things ... for fun.! What the juntari are stirring up for ... 15 ... .30 km from the contact line were overtaken by artillery and rocket launchers, tanks. That's where the point U and a song like it exploded itself!
  14. Likant
    Likant 17 December 2018 22: 34
    0
    Quote: Stils
    If the DNI was violated once, then everything is correct)

    If the DPR was "allegedly" violated, then Russian troops "allegedly" also exist! Read ALL the news and you will understand that a "screwdriver" without the first shot is a stupid attack! And the APU for this it is enough to indicate "supposedly" and you can figure it out, hop like! The bottom line is that a full-fledged shelling begins without real reasons, which means Petka begins a provocation and a further offensive. And before the end of "martial law" it must begin, or Petke skiff! And his own skin is more dear to him!
  15. ilik54
    ilik54 17 December 2018 22: 37
    +3
    Death ukro-Bandera fascists!
  16. Likant
    Likant 17 December 2018 23: 04
    +2
    Quote: bratchanin3
    And what prevents to beat the concentrated forces of Bandera? If again this notorious Minsk, then this is stupid.

    I told Zakharchenko the same thing about "Minsk-1"! But there is "our own armor" and we have what we have! We all consider these "Minski" stupid, but the management knows better! We did not join the DPR army (and who left the "front line" after "Minsk-1"), but we conduct shooting and training consistently after the militia. We have no less militias than the DPR army, but until there is full-scale hostilities, we are working! Someone needs to work! The friend in the "cyber-golden eagle" "works", in the Crimea now, lazy! .. :)
  17. Likant
    Likant 17 December 2018 23: 15
    +1
    Quote: Sirocco
    Quote: Free man
    In the history of Russia, this was

    You are right, everything is old as the world, only this is a new type of hybrid civil war in Ukraine, what is its hybridity? oligarchs on both sides push their brothers' foreheads with the help of the media, and they are happy to try. Now, if the good fellows Poroshenko and Akhmetov had gone out into the field, they would have hit their foreheads and the earth shook so much and sparks fell from their eyes. That was the case. But this is a fairy tale)))))
    The media is a terrible force, because in such a war, any two regions of the Russian Federation can be pitted against each other. It is enough for the third force to throw some money to the local corrupt oligarchs - businessmen, and the crowd will go to the crowd.

    Aren't you from Donetsk? Akhmet was pinched "nuts" as soon as he pulled from Donetsk to Kiev in 2015, and Buratina was trotted out in Kiev! So he's not Batman for a long time, but bast! And he already only with Klitschko, but with Lyashko to compete! .. He is held as "the owner of the papers" for Donetsk real estate for "nuts" hard! :)
  18. av58
    av58 18 December 2018 14: 29
    +1
    If we calculate the losses of New Russia from the words of the Armed Forces, then in Donbass and Lugansk there should be no one left smile