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The rate is higher than life. New Year's gift from the Central Bank

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The Board of Directors of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation made a very unexpected decision on Friday. The key rate was raised again: by another 0,25 percent, to 7,75 percent per annum. Almost all analysts, analysts, all domestic bankers had no doubt that they would not raise rates now. Moreover, it seemed to many that they would lower it. If not in December, then certainly on the February Board of Directors of the Central Bank. And thus now, in anticipation of relative financial stability and growing revenues to the treasury, they will resume the process of lowering bank rates, that is, the Bank of Russia will finally, after a four-year pause, soften monetary policy, actually stimulating both the banking sector and the real economy .


In the Central Bank of the Russian Federation know how and love It is beautiful to give your own, to put it mildly, not entirely logical, and sometimes very unpopular decisions. And it is not so important that the practice later refutes these explanations. For example, when the rate was raised to 7,5 percent, the head of the Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina tried to convince everyone that after that the mortgage rates will be surely reduced. They did not fall - they grew up, putting the entire construction industry on the brink of crisis.



However, the industry will somehow get out of it - there will be, for example, a bridge to Sakhalin, which few need to actually build, but people are sorry. They face a far more terrible revision of the terms of mortgage contracts, after which many will simply have to part with the dream of new apartments. I don’t even want to talk about what the mortgage holders will haunt one more increase in the Central Bank’s rate.

In the Central Bank of the Russian Federation know how and love justify the decision to change or maintain the key rate at the current level, linking it, this rate, to the consumer price index. Hence the conclusion: they lied to us for a long time and selflessly about the fact that inflation in Russia has greatly decreased. The rate is raised a second time in just a few months, and this is certainly a direct evidence of rising prices and, accordingly, an increase in inflation.

However, now speaking heads from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation are not fooling us and they recognize that inflation in November accelerated to 3,8% on an annualized basis. It is also recognized that by the end of 2018, it may diverge from the forecast in 4% and in reality range from 3,9% to 4,2% for the entire year. But please excuse me, because it is almost twice lower than the key rate. And no one in the Central Bank is even trying to explain why we need such a solid margin, that is, such a gap in percent. Explanations from the side, when analysts say about the need to return to buying currency again, somehow do not convince us that Russia really needs such expensive money.

An attempt by the Central Bank to further complicate access to a monetary resource is most likely connected not so much with currency problems, as with the willingness of many already to raise prices. Without waiting for the increase in VAT, growth of utility tariffs and even some New Year gifts, including from the Central Bank. On the eve of the New Year holidays, paying attention to the updated price tags in Russia is somehow not accepted, so why not spread straws ...

The Central Bank itself, playing with stakes like a roulette, also actually lays the straw on itself, since there, judging even by external signs, they do not really believe in low inflation in the 2019 year. After all, the damned sanctions, the risk of falling oil prices and the same increase in VAT have to be added to the increase in utility tariffs, and problems with the funds of pension or insurance funds, which will be much more still very, very soon.

It seems that such a strange construction as “expensive rubles and expensive gasoline” in Russia can be stable only under the most severe pressure from the state. With regard to gasoline, the pressure, as you know, worked, but you can be afraid that it worked only until spring. But in that it will work in respect of rubles, there are very big doubts. And the sluggish reaction of the currency market, where the dollar rose quite a bit on Friday, and the euro even fell, should not mislead anyone. Everything will start on Monday, and then a lot will become clear. Well, the trend for months ahead can be determined after the Central Bank actually resumes the purchase of foreign exchange earnings.

So, money in Russia is becoming more inaccessible and more expensive, while inflation has been replaced by the effects of inflation or demand that was characteristic of earlier, in obese 2000, when the product has sometimes not kept up with growing consumer demand, inflation of expectations comes. Experts prefer to call it inflation costs. Both manufacturers and retailers (sellers), many of the costs in our time are growing compared with the consumer sector, as it were in advance. Although they are caused either by fluctuations in exchange rates and a fall in oil prices, or by rental rates, as well as utilities and other services.

As a result, banks, deprived of access to cheap resources from the West, and now in fact also domestically, compensate for all overpriced rates, and enterprises - by increasing the selling prices for their products. But instead of supporting the bankers and, as a result, the enterprises, helping them to reduce costs through a cheap loan, the Central Bank makes the loan disproportionately expensive.

In the Central Bank of the Russian Federation know how and love correctly use theses from the government, to which the Central Bank, in fact, is not included in the law. One of them is about a direct link between inflation and economic growth. At one time, being a privatization deputy prime minister, a well-known character deftly used high inflation to form a budget nest egg, which could then be scattered over his own without asking permission from either his patron or the State Duma or the president himself.

At that time, enterprises simply did not keep up with their prices following tariffs and exchange rates, so Chubais used it. But his “stash”, even with the money from privatization, is generally scanty, still not enough to save the country from default. In principle, in developing economies, and in Russia, we hope, it is developing, and inflation can be released if this can really stimulate more substantial economic growth.

However, it seems that our economy gurus are more in favor of crises that can be heroically overcome, or something like stagnation, and they don’t want to allow any relief or changes in government policy. Or can not. As economist Valentin Katasonov, well-known for his anti-liberal views, noted, they will "adhere to the course until the last minister, paying no attention to any consequences."

In the USA and Europe, the practice of quantitative easing, when the cost of a centralized loan was reduced almost to zero, has worked for many years, and in a number of areas it is still working. However, even with almost zero inflation, neither in the USA nor in the European Union there is any significant economic growth. But we have even less growth - Russia has become special again, and with inflation, which should help, we are fighting the exact opposite, making money extremely expensive.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 17 December 2018 05: 16
    +31
    Russia is again special to become, and with inflation, which should help, we are fighting exactly the opposite, making money extremely expensive.

    Everything in our country is obtained through an unnatural place ... therefore, we have what we have.
    The Central Bank is coordinating its dealings with the IMF and that it wants to and turns it over ... yesterday I read about Chubais’s affairs in RUSNANO ... as he was a rogue and remained ... some untouchable man ... even the FSB cannot get it .. . the roof of his horseradish will break through.
    What can I say about the Central Bank ... in general, an impartial and uncontrolled office.
    In general, this year is rich in nasty gifts from the ruling class of Russia to our people ... or else there will be ... the mood is nasty. what
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 17 December 2018 05: 26
      +24
      I'm afraid that Chubais has compromising suitcases for all of our management. That's why they don’t touch him.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 17 December 2018 05: 52
        +12
        ... that neither - he is from the caste * untouchables * - well, as in India, only a short cut ..
        1. Mr Credo
          Mr Credo 17 December 2018 05: 57
          +15
          Well, Gref was talking about strata! And probably he is not the only one who thinks so. And if you look at our society, then we are building a caste society. We can say that India is taken for the ideal of society.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 17 December 2018 06: 29
            +24
            Found something to be surprised. It was necessary to come up with the following structure for Russia:
            The CBR is given a special constitutional legal status. Its functions and powers and status are established by federal law No. 86-FZ. Legally The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a non-governmental body, i.e. it is not the property of the stateand its employees are not civil servants, the status of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is defined as a legal entity. But in fact, according to its authority and goals, it refers to state bodies, since the exercise of its functions provides for measures of state coercion.
            Who owns the Bank of Russia? The authorized capital and all property of the Central Bank are federal property, at the same time Gold and foreign currency reserves and the Central Bank disposes of its property independently. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not calculated for the obligations of Russiaequally as Russia does not pay debts of the Central Bankunless otherwise provided by law. You can interpret it like this: the state may go bankrupt, even if there is a reserve of gold reserves stored in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

            The state of affairs is such that in order to receive income, Ms. Nabiullina at her discretion (as the best head of the Central Bank according to the Euromoney magazine) can pursue her well-known financial and credit policy (+ 14 members of the board of directors). You can as far as you like to build "cunning plans" for the development of the economy and the creation of 25 million highly qualified jobs, but:
            NO MONEY BUT YOU KEEP!
            The Central Bank was established in 1990 and is the legal successor to the State Bank of the USSR. But, what a strange feature - the management of the entire credit system as a whole was carried out by the USSR Ministry of Finance. Such an organization of the management of the credit system ensured the linking of the financial and credit plans of credit institutions with the basic financial plan of the socialist state — the state budget of the USSR. On this basis, the Soviet state was able to make full use of the financial and credit methods of the planned distribution and redistribution of national income in the interests of the steady rise of the national economy and the growth of the material well-being of the people.

            It remains to clarify (ONLY, HERE, WHOSE?) IN WHOSE INTERESTS DOES THE CREDIT-FINANCIAL POLICY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION CONSTITUTE THE LOGIC AND THE MUCH OF THE SMOKER WILL BE CONTINUED ... stop BREAD?
            belay
            1. nickname7
              nickname7 17 December 2018 08: 12
              +10
              IN WHOSE INTERESTS
              The Central Bank pursues a policy of maximum withdrawal of money from the Russian economy and support of the West.
            2. Claymore
              Claymore 17 December 2018 10: 04
              -3
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Legally The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a non-governmental body, i.e. it is not the property of the state
              1 The Ministry of Defense (Finance, Education, etc.) of the Russian Federation is also not the property of the state (it, like the Central Bank, is not an object of property at all) - does this mean that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is a non-governmental body?

              2 What legal aspect indicates that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a non-state body if its founder and owner of the authorized capital is precisely the state that exercises direct control over the activities of the Central Bank?

              The status of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is defined as a legal entity. But in fact, according to its authority and goals, it refers to state bodies, since the exercise of its functions provides for measures of state coercion
              Regulations on the Ministry of Defense.
              5. The Ministry of Defense is a legal entity, has an estimate, seals, stamps ...

              Who owns the Bank of Russia?
              And who owns Uncle Misha’s panties, if it is known that these are Uncle Misha’s panties? )))

              This can be interpreted as follows: the state can go bankrupt, even if there is a reserve of gold reserves stored in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
              And you can not interpret, but carefully re-read your copy-paste - "Russia does not pay on the debts of the Central Bank, unless otherwise provided by law"- who makes laws in the Russian Federation?

              The second point - how many states do you know (and not one of the existing Central Banks is responsible for the debts of its state) that have become bankrupt due to the fact that they could not pay off their debts?

              I’m sure that you can’t even name one, because in case of inability to pay debts, the debt is either restructured or stupidly debited.

              In the same case, if the Central Bank bears responsibility for the debts of its state, no one will restructure and write off anything - they just arrest the accounts, assets and foreign real estate on the balance sheet of the Central Bank, and a mustache. )))

              The situation is such that, in order to generate income, Ms. Nabiullina, at her discretion
              1 In accordance with the law, "making a profit is not the goal of the Bank of Russia"

              2 In accordance with the law, Ms. Nabiullina cannot take a step without the approval of the National Financial Council.

              REMAINED TO FIND OUT (ONLY, HERE, WHOSE?) IN WHOSE INTERESTS DOES THE CREDIT AND FINANCIAL POLICY OF THE CBR
              You need to find out where you got this conspiratorial copy-paste about the independent "credit and financial" policy of the Central Bank.

              Indeed, in the law on the Central Bank, Russian on white says:

              "The Bank of Russia performs the following functions:

              1) in collaboration with the Government Of the Russian Federation develops and pursues a unified state monetary policy;

              1.1) in collaboration with the Government The Russian Federation develops and implements a policy of development and ensuring the stability of the functioning of the financial market of the Russian Federation; "


              AND HOW MUCH STOP STATUS WILL CONTINUE WHEN HAVING HUGE RESOURCES
              Until the conspirators understand that the gold reserves of the Russian Federation cannot be used within the Russian Federation, because they were already used there - the banks bought rubles for foreign currency that got into the gold reserves.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 17 December 2018 10: 33
                +5
                Quote: Claymore
                Indeed, in the law on the Central Bank, Russian on white says:
                ... 1) in cooperation with the Government of the Russian Federation

                I repent. Sinful. I thought the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - the Fed branch - how many dollars they earned - they printed so many rubles ... But it turns out that the Russian government is also guided by the instructions of the State Department wassat Then, probably, the State Duma is also a branch of the Senate? For free there are people with dual citizenship.
                Tell me then, if you have such a dock in financial matters, where did such hatred of Russian creditors towards Russian borrowers come from and why are deposit holders not gifted with banking generosity? I believe you. Directly unconditionally and categorically. What then is Medvedev, who is not the first year and last in the government, in the presence of huge gold reserves, claims that the government has no money?
                If everyone understands and knows everything so well, tell me why unaccounted cash flows come from Russia? Why did the Central Bank spread a herd of commercial banks, whose activities are similar to keeping "common funds"? Even in the regional center, in search of an ATM of a well-known bank among state employees (the successor to the Bank of Moscow), you can knock your legs ... Who needs and who benefits from this, in your opinion, largely controlled and dependent banking policy. And Gref is really "right":
                “How to live, how to manage a society where everyone has the opportunity to judge directly, to receive unprepared information, not through analysts trained by the government, political scientists, and huge media from the media that are seemingly independent, but in fact, we understand that are all the media busy with strata? ”
                wassat
                1. Claymore
                  Claymore 17 December 2018 11: 28
                  -1
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  I repent. Sinful
                  Moreover, along the way, more than you think. lol

                  I thought the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - a branch of the Fed
                  The Fed is the US banking system (i.e., a system of relations between entities similar to healthcare or education systems).

                  But there can be no branches of the social system - neither within the state, nor outside of it (only organizations can have branches).

                  Then, probably, the State Duma is also a branch of the Senate?
                  This will be likely only if you find a regulatory act of the Russian Federation in which this nonsense will appear. laughing

                  where did such hatred of Russian lenders towards Russian borrowers come from and why deposit owners are not gifted with banking generosity
                  This is not hatred, but the desire, quite usual for capitalist relations, to cut down as much dough as possible.

                  Moreover, this desire was stopped by the Central Bank by law (making a profit is not the goal of activity).

                  What then is Medvedev, who is not the first year and last in the government, in the presence of huge gold reserves, claims that the government has no money?
                  He has no money for social services.

                  As for the gold reserves, I repeat - the gold reserves of the Russian Federation cannot be used within the Russian Federation, because foreign currency inside the Russian Federation does not go, as a result of which the currency that got into the gold and foreign currency reserves has already been exchanged for rubles.

                  To stimulate the economy of the Russian Federation, only budgetary funds and extra-budgetary funds can be used, but only the State Duma, the government and the president, who will never agree to this, can make decisions on this issue. this kind of incentive contradicts the existing economic model and the interests of the ruling class (raw material and financial capital), which is sitting on a budget drain.

                  Putin, however, clearly said in 2009 - "Russia will remain a market liberal economy", so everything that happens is natural - for what they fought ...

                  If everyone understands and knows everything so well, tell me, why are unaccounted cash flows coming from Russia?
                  Recorded flows are coming from the Russian Federation, which are profit after tax.

                  And the owners manage the profits at their own discretion, and it is impossible to do anything with this under the existing conditions and the economic system (and the leadership and the ruling class of the Russian Federation are not going to go beyond the bounds - their current situation as a whole is completely satisfied).

                  Why did the Central Bank spread a herd of commercial banks, whose activities are similar to keeping "common funds"?
                  It was beneficial to large owners.

                  And Gref is really "right":
                  Gref only honestly voiced the position of the capitalists, which Marx and Lenin talked about more than a hundred years ago (but the "most well-read" people 30 years ago decided that Marx and Lenin were lying).
          2. Ajevgenij
            Ajevgenij 17 December 2018 22: 17
            +3
            This is a funny paradox, we are struggling with Euro values, but at the same time we are doing eastern values ​​- fi. So we want both in India or in Europe?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 17 December 2018 10: 08
          +5
          what the year 2019 is preparing for us .. Prices will soar for everything, but people don’t have money anyway ..
      2. invisibility
        invisibility 17 December 2018 09: 05
        +6
        Quote: Mister Creed
        I'm afraid that Chubais has compromising suitcases for all of our management.

        Nonsense. There is no compromising evidence. Just one gang ...
      3. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 17 December 2018 17: 08
        +2
        What dirt, when Chubais pulled the unknown V.V.Putin out of the wilderness and put him in the presidency ... He is the main overseer in Russia, so he is untouchable, but with such a baggage of crimes from the Yeltsin period, he "oversees" all Putin's, with all the tricks presidency and replacement doubles ... Tom and the FSB are also in the pocket ...
    2. KOCMOC
      KOCMOC 17 December 2018 08: 07
      -19
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Everything in our country is obtained through an unnatural place ...

      Here it is freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, that this opinion is stupid, it doesn’t matter, the main thing is freedom laughing the author, either completely far from the economy, or a deliberate provocateur, did not write an article, presented the conclusions on a silver platter to a stupid electorate, you see, people are robbing you, be outraged, raise this power to forks fool what for to think, for you already thought over the hill, in short, the whip clicked the sheep bleated and ran, the shepherds are happy.
      Nabibulina is great! She, unlike stupid "patriots", understands that the Russian economy is part of the world economy and is interconnected, heterogeneous and represented by different legal entities. persons, and this is the defense, fuel, public sector of the economy. It also contains various types of Western representatives of banking and all other financial structures, including the type of any dummy Browders and all others, including local speculators, whose true intentions are far from the well-being of Russia, freedom allows them to do this. Well, the third part is small business and the people themselves. In addition, we must not forget the West and the United States are waging a real economic and sanctions war against Russia, and this somehow needs to be resisted. And in the current conditions, in this confrontation, Nabibulin is no more, no less, is the general of the economic troops of the Russian Federation, like Zhukov on the front line. And what does she do, firstly, as a good housewife, she rolled up a whole bunch of dubious banks to zero. Secondly, it restricts access to loans to all crooks who withdraw money from the Russian Federation, while leaving debts. Yes, it limits consumer loans to stupid people, in general to take out a loan unnecessarily is this stupidity. The less money the people have, the less stupidity they will do, again they will acquire less foreign gadgets, thereby financing the Western economy, and this also contributes to, albeit a crap, import substitution. Well, their own, necessary, state, defense enterprises, etc., there are also many people working there, if necessary, they will receive money directly from the gold reserves and without interest. And let the West take care of its business in Russia. So Nabibulina does everything, in general, it is reasonable, but in a war it doesn’t happen differently, but you gentlemen-comrades all the same get ready, it will be even more difficult, but the Russian economy is becoming stronger.
      PS People are getting stupid ...
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 17 December 2018 08: 42
        +9
        Demyan. "The less money the people have, the less stupidity they will do ..." Such a quality as stupidity,
        should be determined by the social rung?
      2. invisibility
        invisibility 17 December 2018 08: 56
        +11
        Quote: KOCMOC
        PS People are getting stupid ...

        And this can be seen in your example.
        Not taking into account your libel, about stupid people taking loans, I note that in addition to stupid people, there are also stupid enterprises that need loans like air. And the general of economic troops makes the products of these enterprises much more expensive than those of competitors, therefore less accessible to stupid people.
        Although if you think about it, your general is a real sector of the economy and a gift for nothing.
        Money must be made out of money. And the stupid people have a paw, even if it sucks.
        1. depressant
          depressant 17 December 2018 09: 32
          +9
          We will be so under the leadership of General Nabiullina. The recent statements of forum users caused bewilderment: "Here comes the 19th, oh, prices will skyrocket!" I am reporting. In May, chicken legs with ridges - 109 rubles. Further - a consistent increase in the price to 150 before the world championship, now - 155 rubles. I don't know how Nabiullina calculates inflation and calculates the rate on its basis, my inflation is shown above. The rise in prices a month ago seemed to have quenched - the shops were empty, the sellers complained: no one takes anything, the products began to go out of date, whatever you take - you can feel the rotten stuff. Now, of course, before the New Year, prices have gone up - so they won't lower them later! And they will raise it too - because of the rate. And then the roll-up of small business will begin. In my opinion, this is the goal - to crush everything that still somehow breathes. Excommunication from old format capitalism. And the new one - what?!?
          1. invisibility
            invisibility 17 December 2018 09: 47
            +4
            Quote: depressant
            Excommunication from capitalism of the old format. And what’s new?!?

            There is no old or new format. There is simply capitalism.
            1. depressant
              depressant 17 December 2018 10: 44
              +1
              "There is just capitalism."
              You are mistaken! Foreign developers of a new type of capitalism format it like this: only large assembly-type enterprises (cars, large mechanisms) will remain, and all other products will be produced by very small industries located in places of its direct consumption - food, clothing, shoes, furniture, household appliances and other things that can only come to mind. That is, such industries will be located in residential areas. This becomes possible due to the already sweeping scientific and technological revolution and allows us to restore the middle class where it sank, and create it where it was not. Due to the financial practices of Nabiullina, this does not threaten us.
              1. invisibility
                invisibility 17 December 2018 10: 55
                +6
                Sorry, but I don’t see any examples of the situation voiced by you ...
                I see the gradual destruction of small and medium enterprises, for the sake of large, transnational capital.
                Go to the store. P&G, Nestle, Unilever, PepsiCo, Mars, Kraft Foods and Groupe Danone ...
                All as the classics said ...
                1. depressant
                  depressant 17 December 2018 11: 24
                  -1
                  And you go to reddit and see what people do by installing 3D printing in their apartment or garage! Physicists do not sleep, new materials appear every day, everything can be printed - not only disposable weapons, but even aircraft parts - non-disposable ones are already possible ... Yes, now the developers of such installations are also quite slow, but the productivity of the latter is steadily increasing , but now people are making money on this without leaving home. And on the way a new technique. Even in Russia they started to print at home. But the house is a large production. And Nabiullina will not let you put the installation at home and print the part for the superjet or, what is simpler, clothes, shoes, dishes, etc. And the government will not give it - what if you start to produce weapons! After all, the internet is full of drawings. And countless regulatory authorities are interested to join the process ...
                  1. invisibility
                    invisibility 17 December 2018 11: 49
                    +4
                    Good. But I don’t understand where is the new capitalism?
                    Previously, there were also manufactories .. Where are they now?
                    And IBM began with a garage. The result, I think you know.
                    As soon as the smell of serious money starts to flow, the entrepreneur will be put on a "stake" and some General Electric will take the helm.
                  2. Conductor
                    Conductor 17 December 2018 12: 48
                    +1
                    So you ghost it and sell it, but dear.
      3. Altona
        Altona 17 December 2018 09: 04
        +5
        Quote: KOCMOC
        So Nabibulin does everything, generally reasonably

        -------------------------------
        For themselves, they do reasonably. You correctly noted that a multi-layered economy works with different actors. But this policy works to wash money out of the population.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 17 December 2018 10: 10
          +5
          Quote: Altona
          But this policy works to wash money out of the population.

          In my opinion, in general, they all gathered to pump money from the population .. there’s nowhere else to take, but they don’t know how to make money.
          1. Altona
            Altona 17 December 2018 10: 14
            +5
            Quote: Svarog
            In my opinion, in general, they all gathered to pump money from the population .. there’s nowhere else to take, but they don’t know how to make money.

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            Cosmos (Demyan) carries out a simple idea that it’s not bad as it is now. And there will come "red-bellied Trotskyists, Udaltsovites, yellow veterans, Zyugano-Marxists" and kapets economy. Everything will stop until they master the state helm. laughing laughing
        2. KOCMOC
          KOCMOC 17 December 2018 10: 19
          -7
          Quote: Altona
          But this policy works to wash money out of the population.

          This is an indirect problem, in order to cure the body of infection, you have to use antibiotics, and they are known to have no selective effect, so the rest of the organs also get it.
          1. Altona
            Altona 17 December 2018 10: 30
            +6
            Quote: KOCMOC
            This is an indirect problem, in order to cure the body of infection, you have to use antibiotics, and they are known to have no selective effect, so the rest of the organs also get it.

            -----------------------
            Wow "indirect problem". So after antibiotics, you need to restore the microflora, eat yoghurts and kefir, consume B vitamins, all sorts of nicotines, riboflavins. Where is it all? You only offer prednisone and fasting, and also aspirin and all this on an empty stomach. It's easy to accumulate here. And this is all for 90% of the population, the remaining 10% only fortified and varied nutrition without restrictions. laughing laughing
      4. goose
        goose 17 December 2018 09: 10
        +9
        Quote: KOCMOC
        Secondly, it restricts access to loans to all crooks who withdraw money from the Russian Federation, while leaving debts.

        Can you give at least one example of such a restriction for crooks? The outflow of currency abroad with the arrival of Nabiullina increased several times, this is dry statistics. After 4 months, as she became Minister of Economic Development, there was a default in 2008, total capital outflow exceeded the inflow by 6 times, starting in 2008. But the worst thing was in the economy. "Thanks to" expensive money, we have 80% of the budgets of small and medium-sized businesses are directed to servicing debts to banks, which led to stagnation of development.
        1. KOCMOC
          KOCMOC 17 December 2018 09: 54
          -9
          Quote: goose
          Can you give at least one example of such a restriction for crooks?

          If you have a choice and you are not stupid, then you will not take a loan with a higher interest rate.
          Quote: goose
          The outflow of currency abroad with the advent of Nabiullina has increased several times, this is dry statistics. After 4 months, as she became Minister of Economic Development, a default occurred in 2008, total capital outflows exceeded inflows by 6 times since 2008

          It was a consequence of the global economic crisis, and now the consequences of political, investment, Western money are someone else’s money, they have the right to invest it in the Russian economy and earn money on it, they can withdraw Nabiulin and they can’t forbid them, but in due time this money also contributed to the modernization of the economy and industry, Russia's GDP has grown significantly. Profit attracts foreign investment, but against politics it is powerless, the Russian economy is under pressure but surplus, the time has come for domestic investment. In order to saturate the economy with money, you must first plug all the holes.
          PS The sooner you grow wiser, the better for you, the better for the country.
          1. Koshel2901
            Koshel2901 17 December 2018 13: 58
            0
            Hey, wise guy, are you, by any chance, not from the flock of Na-Lina?
          2. goose
            goose 17 December 2018 16: 59
            +3
            Quote: KOCMOC
            If you have a choice and you are not stupid, then you will not take a loan with a higher interest rate.

            There are no other loans on the market, and most people do not have seed capital. Only those who seized power in the early 90s have it. There is cheap money only abroad, but there is a completely different policy of central banks. In fact, only business with the participation of Western capital is successfully developing in our country, because % on servicing Western loans is immeasurably less.
      5. sunzhenets
        sunzhenets 17 December 2018 11: 50
        +8
        The sane oppositionists (Grudinin, Platoshkin) say that the main reason for the economic crisis in the Russian Federation is the lack of purchasing power of the population. I agree with them.
        But from the New Year, VAT and utilities are rising. Accordingly, purchasing power will fall further. Where will the economic growth come from?
        Quote: KOCMOC
        the West and the United States are waging a real economic and sanctions war against Russia, and this somehow needs to be resisted. And in the current conditions, in this confrontation, Nabibulin is neither more nor less than a general of the economic forces of the Russian Federation

        Nabiullina is a general of the economic forces of the Russian Federation, fighting on the side of the West with the Russian people. Shoulder to shoulder with the government and the president.
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        2. sunzhenets
          sunzhenets 17 December 2018 11: 55
          +7
          Recently watched a video with Platoshkin. He talks about a conversation with a German related to a shipbuilding company.
          Platoshkin: - We have an economic crisis ...
          German: - What is your crisis in Russia! We are building for the Russian yacht with a railing made of tyrannosaurus bones.
          1. Altona
            Altona 17 December 2018 12: 08
            +3
            Quote: Sunflower
            Recently watched a video with Platoshkin.

            -----------------------
            I also look at Platoshkin, because he is a diplomat, and often much is hidden in diplomacy that we simply don’t say or hang up with propaganda. It’s a pity, not everyone here likes to read diplomatic correspondence.
      6. AA17
        AA17 17 December 2018 11: 56
        +8
        Dear, KOCMOC (Demyan). Your words: "... So Nabibulina does everything, in general, it is reasonable, ... but the Russian economy is getting stronger ..." - they speak of your stable life, confidence in the future and about belonging to people who have successfully entered the market ... This is your point of view on the Russian economy and on the actions of our Government. And she is worthy of respect. But there is a different point of view on our economy and the actions of our Government.
        "... A well-known economist accused the Russian authorities of unwillingness to create internal sources of growth in the country, reports IA" Regnum ".
        The Russian government has two functions, and not one of them involves the development of the real sector. This was announced on December 14 by economist Mikhail Khazin, commenting on the news of the budget surplus of the Russian Federation, which amounted to 2018 trillion rubles in January-November 3,394, and answering the question why the Russian government does not direct these funds to the development of the real sector of the economy.
        “In order to understand government policy, you need to understand its target focuses,” Khazin said. - The government has two target functions. The first is to ensure the maximum capital outflow to support the liquidity of the global dollar system. And second, a ban on creating internal sources of growth for the Russian economy. In terms of these target functions, the government operates flawlessly - of high quality and confidence. If there is another government, with different target functions, maybe it will change this policy "..."
        P.S. I share the point of view of M. Khzin on the actions of our government. But I do not support his claim that V. Putin is not responsible for the current situation in the Russian economy.
        1. KOCMOC
          KOCMOC 17 December 2018 12: 53
          -6
          Quote: AA17
          why the government of the Russian Federation does not direct these funds to the development of the real sector of the economy.

          And in more detail, what is the real sector of the economy? As you yourself understand this term, in general, who is the physical recipient of this money and for what? think deeper ...
          Quote: AA17
          The government has two objective functions. The first is to ensure maximum capital outflows to support the liquidity of the global dollar system.

          What does maximum outflow mean? How? Whose money? What is their origin? Liquidity support to whom, Americans? Yes, they print without interruption. And the gold reserves of Russia is growing, do not confuse accumulation with outflow. I’ll say it is easier for Russia to have a lot of money, but if you allow them to, then at this stage, you simply burn them.
          Quote: AA17
          And the second is the ban on creating internal sources of growth for the Russian economy.

          What exactly does this prohibition express? high interest rate, a ban on emissions? In what? There are no prohibitions, there is protection and regulation of the market! Protection, from speculation, capital outflows, corruption, etc., is a complex issue of the relationship of production, market and money! If you have no market, no sales, then there is nothing to invest in production, but also people, infrastructure, production, technology, products themselves ... and one will not work without the other! Now everything is going on, it is growing normally, gradually, and wild money is completely unacceptable here.
          Once again, read carefully, I wrote above, do not download to the top, but penetrate insightfully. Do not read the Kasatonovs, Khazins, Glazyevs, Grudinins for the most part it is lyrics and populism, and if you decide, think. The economy is a clean mechanism, everything is in sight. By the way, on YouTube there are videos of one healthy person, I highly recommend for education, type aftershock, on different topics.
          PS And your minuses will not help you, there is no protection against the truth!yes
          1. AA17
            AA17 17 December 2018 14: 39
            +7
            You advise me not to read "... the Kasatonovs, Khazins, Glazievs, Grudinins." Whom do you read? Kudrin, Oreshkin, Chubais, Ulyukaev, Mau, Gref, Medvedev, etc. Or direct instructions from the IMF, from Managing Director Kristen Madeleine Odette Lagard? I think you and I have different attitudes towards the "market". Accordingly, you and I have different value systems. I read authors who think about the current situation in the economy in Russia the same way I do.
            P.S. "... in the opinion of Oleg Komolov, Associate Professor of the Plekhanov Russian University of Economics, Candidate of Economic Sciences, the neoliberal economic concept that the Russian government professes makes it strictly adhere to the rule of a deficit-free budget, which, in turn, prevents the country from solving a number of their social problems.
            “A 3,394 trillion rubles surplus would allow for 10 years to cover the current deficit of the Pension Fund or to provide adequate funding for science, education, culture and healthcare”
            1. goose
              goose 17 December 2018 17: 02
              +5
              Quote: AA17
              You advise me not to read "... the Kasatonovs, Khazins, Glazievs, Grudinins." Whom do you read? Kudrin, Oreshkin, Chubais, Ulyukaev, Mau, Gref, Medvedev, etc.

              Ha ha ha i.e. a direct instruction not to read people with special education and scientific degrees, but to read semi-literate troeshniks from the Government? Plusa is definitely a kind of religion.
              It has long been proved independently by many serious scientists that the additional requisitions are acceleration of inflation, but our Government has some kind of economic science. Why in Russia, thanks to the HSE, Economics is a textbook, if in the USA it was recognized as a harmful pseudoscientific book 60 years ago, and Kensianism rules.
    3. bandabas
      bandabas 17 December 2018 18: 36
      0
      Let's just say this is not a ruling class, but a parasitic class.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 December 2018 05: 57
    +8
    economy guru
    Before becoming these "gurus" they went through, if not full training, then courses exactly in the west under the wing of those who taught Russia economics and the "correct" distribution of finances in the 90s. Everybody knows perfectly well what these "teachers" have brought the country to. Now their disciples are working, who for some reason suddenly became gurus.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 17 December 2018 06: 19
    +10
    We received a New Year's gift from the Central Bank. Thank you. Rady. I would like to tell a poem from the chair, but they will ban me for profanity ... In January, we are waiting for other gifts from the government ... no less joyful ...
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 17 December 2018 06: 46
    +4
    Shaw to write, sho to say .... but there is nothing, because as they put it, they do not give.
    1. Altona
      Altona 17 December 2018 12: 27
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      Shaw write, sho say ...

      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 December 2018 12: 38
        +1
        So there are bulldozers, excavators and all sorts of different ovens !!! Yes, you can still use biogas and sell it to the population !!! If they eat less, it means they will freeze, and here they are with their "warmth, care"!
        World experience t.s., nothing to come up with!
  5. Conductor
    Conductor 17 December 2018 06: 47
    0
    Maybe they are from Maine in Black, not ours?
  6. pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 17 December 2018 08: 03
    +6
    It is necessary for the president to meditate. If he had found out, he would have figured it out properly with these scams.
    1. Vlad 63
      Vlad 63 17 December 2018 08: 13
      +5
      Fine, they don’t understand. lol
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 December 2018 08: 58
        +1
        Quote: pru-pavel
        I would have figured it out properly with these scams.

        Which method? With the help of doors, the process of clamping something with these very doors?
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 17 December 2018 09: 30
      +4
      Like Ilya Muromets, he will sleep on the stove for 33 years. And then the tongue will wake up.
  7. wooja
    wooja 17 December 2018 08: 09
    0
    do not look for enemies, the Central Bank plays as it can ..., within the framework of the existing model, it simply cannot go beyond this model.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 December 2018 08: 59
      +3
      And change the unsuitable model? No way?
      1. wooja
        wooja 17 December 2018 09: 01
        +3
        Only on the Soviet type ... but who will allow it ?,
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 17 December 2018 09: 26
          +2
          Quote: wooja
          Only on the Soviet type ... but who will allow it ?,

          It won’t work now, it’s too radical, and specialists need a high class.
          Within the existing system, the identity is also permissible, even desirable, because there are working models, the system has existed for a long time and collapsed without reasonable modernization, not in one country.
          But then again, the specialists need a completely different type ..... and so it turns out, we’re not doing anything, no matter how often the faq happens!
          All the same, nothing good comes of what they want to achieve by doing nothing ???
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 17 December 2018 09: 32
      +2
      That is - is there a steam engine and for it to the level of the Internal Combustion Engine in any way?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 December 2018 11: 30
        +2
        How, how, only appropriate preparation is needed.
        Those. back to the thesis - Learning, studying and studying again!
    3. Koshel2901
      Koshel2901 17 December 2018 14: 05
      0
      What is the conclusion?
  8. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 17 December 2018 08: 40
    +2
    REMAINED TO EXPLORE (ONLY, HERE, WHOM??) IN WHOSE INTERESTS DOES THE LOGIC FINANCIAL-FINANCIAL POLICY OF THE CBR AND WILL HOW TO STAY A SMOKING CONDITION?

    The Central Bank is a branch of the US Federal Reserve and is controlled by the Americans. Nabiullina is a hired manager on their salary. Does only what is beneficial to the United States ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 December 2018 09: 01
      +1
      Shaw you, sho you! They are the national elite! Oriented .... but we don’t understand WHERE?
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 17 December 2018 09: 34
      +1
      Recognize the Central Bank as a foreign agent, according to the legislation of the Russian Federation.
    3. Ptolemy Lag
      Ptolemy Lag 17 December 2018 09: 53
      +3
      But the "guarantor" Nabiullina is satisfied ...
  9. Loess
    Loess 17 December 2018 09: 08
    -2
    However, the industry will somehow get out - for example, there will be a bridge to Sakhalin, few people actually need to build,
    This is a blunder ... However, some of this
    know how and love
  10. Snail N9
    Snail N9 17 December 2018 09: 14
    +1
    Everyone knows that the Russian BS is a private shop operated by foreign residents and it pursues a policy not in the interests of the Russian state, but in the interests of its beneficiaries. Here, read about the budget and the Central Bank: http://svpressa.ru/economy/article/218401/?utm_source=finobzor.ru
    https://narod-novosti.com/ekonomika/?p=nabiullina-otkatom-rezervirovaniya-po-klyuchevoj-stavke&utm_source=finobzor.ru
    1. Claymore
      Claymore 17 December 2018 11: 37
      -4
      Quote: Snail N9
      BW of Russia - private shop

      Nonsense.
  11. Larum
    Larum 17 December 2018 09: 20
    0
    Again against Putin and his government are speaking out? And the point is zero anyway
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 December 2018 09: 27
      +3
      So at least pamper while you can !!!
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 17 December 2018 11: 21
        +5
        So at least pamper while you can !!! We must not indulge, but to unite. Then, if we don’t, languages ​​will be torn out to us.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 17 December 2018 11: 27
          +1
          Don't you understand the joke?
          And about UNITED already tired of talking. We have solid commanders, just a soldier / workhorse of the Revolution, no one wants to be, because to harness and drag a cart behind it is not .... in short, NOT!
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 17 December 2018 11: 33
            +5
            What a joke, Victor? Not so, I’ll go to the barricades if they trust the Berdank to the old pepper shaker. And in the elections, my conscience is clear, I vote only for candidates from the people.
            And our desires are utopia, everything depends only on actions.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 17 December 2018 11: 24
      +4
      Zero - this is if you grumble from under the couch. All the people have to go to the polls, but the cloud of agitators persuade us that it’s not necessary. No - it is necessary if we all come and vote against these.
      Let them try to refute the victory of the people.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 December 2018 11: 43
        +1
        In this coordinate system, nothing fundamentally changes. The system for this must be changed, BUT! Sales in this system can achieve the observance of our rights and the power to show that we are not a dumb herd. The authorities are afraid of any manifestation of the activity of the working masses, because this can lead to the loss of power by them ..... coercion is the only way. All together, all working people, they can’t do without us anyway.
        Something like this, this is a classic of the genre, a proven way of the struggle of the working class for their rights, for their normal lives .......
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 17 December 2018 13: 07
          +2
          And I constantly repeat this. Only active people will be able to change their destiny. I will say for myself - from the referendum on the fate of the USSR (I voted for preservation) I did not vote for many years, I repent.) But I voted in the last elections, for Grudinin in the presidential elections.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 December 2018 13: 19
            +1
            I always go and teach others to that, my wards.
            I have never voted for this power, but I no longer have confidence in the Communists .... we are t.s. The electorate is against the government, but for whom ???? For us, no one, yet.
            1. Larum
              Larum 18 December 2018 09: 41
              +1
              They voted for the USSR - the top spat, collapsed.
              They voted for the Communist Party - the top spat, they chose first the swaying Yeltsin, then Putin’s newcomer, then Medvedev, whom nobody likes.
              And tsiferki added up to 120% of voters
              Puchkov / Goblin says that voting is a dead end. Unite and go on strike.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 18 December 2018 10: 10
                +1
                Quote: Larum
                Puchkov / Goblin says that voting is a dead end. Unite and go on strike.

                Just on strike, it exists in the current system of government. Then it will not be superfluous to vote.
                Radical changes that are desired for the working people in the system of public administration, system, this is only the way of extreme performances and seizure of power .... but again, it is extreme for ordinary participants in the process, and power goes to the cunning, impudent and organized, interested party, organization . The result may not be exactly what the masses advocated. It happens, this is a classic of the genre.
                1. Larum
                  Larum 18 December 2018 10: 36
                  +1
                  This is all known for a long time. Therefore, it will unite in the party, trade unions, etc.
                  Learn to fight. classics of the genre. Otherwise, no result at all.

                  Over in France, despite the excesses, the rise in fuel prices was canceled ....
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 18 December 2018 10: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: Larum
                    unite in the party, trade unions, etc.

                    With associations, we have so far only negative experience! Forgotten how to do it right, wisely, and those in power do not sleep.
                    In France, nothing has ended so far, what the outcome will be is not clear .... and this is a country whose people have rich experience in revolutions and other miscellaneous. However, again, the authorities are on the alert.
                    1. Larum
                      Larum 18 December 2018 10: 56
                      +1
                      You need to learn. No way without it.
                      Look how in the elections they twist Sobchaks, Grudinins, etc.
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 17 December 2018 09: 26
    +3
    Both inside the West, led by the United States, and we have an irreconcilable war of financial capital with industrial (including innovative and even informational). Financial does not want to have the role of a servant, wants to be the boss and boss. And our Central Bank clearly stands on the side of the financial, as well as the government as a whole. But in the States, Trump’s victory is precisely the movement of industrial resistance.
  13. nikvic46
    nikvic46 17 December 2018 09: 39
    +1
    We often learn about ourselves from surveys of various agencies. In what place this survey was conducted, we often suggest that it was not in the countryside. Accidents with small businesses show that this business
    is not protected by the state. Although it is its child. In order not to miss a loan, you need to go to the website you need. Choose a reliable bank. Why won't the competent authorities look at this website? High taxes on wealth are not forced. Under capitalism, such taxes indicate belonging to
    or another layer of society. Inflation consists of many factors.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 17 December 2018 11: 17
      +1
      Accidents with small businesses show that this business is not protected by the state. Although it is its child. This is a misconception at best. Checked repeatedly on their own skin. And my business has always been production, not trade. And in this case, it’s only harder to survive.
  14. Professor
    Professor 17 December 2018 09: 39
    +4
    In spite of this, I gave the article a plus:
    However, even with almost zero inflation, no significant economic growth is observed either in the USA or in the European Union.

    East GDP in 2017 in the USA was 2.2%. Now 3%. The EU now has about 2%, which is not comparable with China or Moldova, but still not so bad.
    https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/gdp-annual-growth-rate
    Today, Katay has gone to slow down.
    1. faterdom
      faterdom 17 December 2018 20: 44
      +2
      GDP growth is generally an indicator of nothing, and in 2% everyone considers it to be an error.
      What’s the matter: if you made five stools a day at 10 $ last year, and this year you started making five stools at 12, and your baker’s neighbor started selling the loaf at 20% more for you, and here’s the treatment for the dentist powerful GDP growth by 20%! Did everyone feel better? Has everyone become more fun?
      1. pru-pavel
        pru-pavel 18 December 2018 06: 58
        +3
        the fact is that when calculating the GDP, the so-called "cleaning of GDP from inflation" is performed, this is called the real growth of GDP in last year's prices. what you have given is called nominal growth, in current prices, that is, you have not cleared the inflation rate of GDP growth.
        1. faterdom
          faterdom 18 December 2018 11: 28
          +1
          Are you sure that our government likes to clean inflation from GDP? Who is this great economist, please tell us, should we know our heroes of the invisible hand of the market?
          Especially when whole groups of goods move in different directions. If someone bought a Bentley at a discount, then how many grandmothers have added happiness that kefir has risen in price?
      2. Professor
        Professor 18 December 2018 08: 04
        +2
        Quote: faterdom
        GDP growth is generally an indicator of nothing, and in 2% everyone considers it to be an error.

        No, dear. 2% of US GDP is $ 400 billion. Good error. wink

        Quote: faterdom
        What’s the matter: if you made five stools a day at 10 $ last year, and this year you started making five stools at 12, and your baker’s neighbor started selling the loaf at 20% more for you, and here’s the treatment for the dentist powerful GDP growth by 20%! Did everyone feel better? Has everyone become more fun?

        Yes. If I began to sell my stools at 20% more, it means that I have (roughly) 20% got more money and I can buy myself more goods and services. Especially imported. This means that my standard of living has increased. You also listen so if the GDP in your country is 0% then it does not matter. A neighbor baker sells you a loaf at the same price, for a dentist heals. In fact, when you stand still, while others go forward, it means that you are moving backward. At the dentist, the consumable will go up in price as he buys it over the hill, and at the baker the loaf will go up in price, as grain prices in the world creep up. But you have GDP, unlike the rest 0%. Guess what will happen?

        Quote: pru-pavel
        the fact is that when calculating the GDP, the so-called "cleaning of GDP from inflation" is performed, this is called the real growth of GDP in last year's prices. what you have given is called nominal growth, in current prices, that is, you have not cleared the inflation rate of GDP growth.

        I compare apples to apples, GDP to GDP.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 December 2018 09: 53
    +2
    And what did you want from the world's best Central Bank manager. To her, the IMF and the Fed are closer to us.
  16. tech3030
    tech3030 17 December 2018 10: 37
    +1
    A host from the United States said to raise, raised. Or do you doubt who is controlled by Russia?
  17. NordUral
    NordUral 17 December 2018 11: 15
    +2
    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation knows how and love to present their own, to put it mildly, not entirely logical, and sometimes very unpopular decisions. Why illogical? Very logical in the logic of the enemies of the people and the country.
  18. garri-lin
    garri-lin 17 December 2018 12: 25
    0
    I really liked about the almost zero inflation rate in the United States and especially the European Union. Yes, and the very understanding of economic growth can be interpreted in different ways.
  19. Conductor
    Conductor 17 December 2018 12: 51
    +1
    Nabiulina is a financier, an economist, for her there is no concept of a long-term perspective, fast money is all. She grew out of the nest of Gaidar and Chubais. Onazhedeti of the liberal economy))))
  20. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 17 December 2018 15: 53
    +1
    Bashkir, together with the HSE, ruin the Russian economy.
  21. high
    high 17 December 2018 16: 21
    +1
    Who needs the incomprehensible figures of the Central Bank, if 22 million citizens are considered poor, but really 36 million
    https://www.gazeta.ru/business/2018/05/09/11745109.shtml
  22. Catfish
    Catfish 17 December 2018 23: 40
    0
    Quote: rocket757
    For us, no one, yet.


    Hi, hi. hi

    So, in fact, this is so, and the top therefore feels calm and comfortable, there is no leader in the country, there is no unifying idea, but there are a lot of pocket parties that only bring confusion and stagger. request

    Although with regard to the calmness of the elite: nevertheless, apparently, not very much, otherwise why the hell did they need a new gendarmerie.
  23. faterdom
    faterdom 19 December 2018 00: 08
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    there is more money and I can buy myself more goods and services

    Simon Kuznets, who coined the term and the GDP tool (GDP), did not directly and primitively consider this indicator and did not consider it an absolute measure. Just one indicator of the economy.
    But modern ultra-liberal economists have made him a fetish, a deity.
    It is not for nothing that on all our talk shows with characters screaming at the same time, American citizens like Grisha Vinnik and our compradors-apples as the main argument cite only one mantra: "What do you mean, the US has a GDP of 40 trillion, and you?"
    Type of victory was awarded in advance. And the Americans are rudely invading where they want all over the world stupidly afraid to fight with North Korea, China, and even more so with Russia. Although they really want, and they have a dime a dozen allies - but scary!
    That is, type GDP is 40 times less, and the country is 40 times weaker, if weaker at all ... It’s only NI who likes to rank everything: 1st place is the most powerful US army. 2nd place - Russia. Is this really so? God forbid to check, but only the journalists of some journal and their curators in the CIA will no longer compare in reality. And the outcome is not clear in advance.
  24. Forever so
    Forever so 19 December 2018 12: 58
    0
    America urgently needs a social explosion in Russia, because it is the next revolution that will allow the Liquid Anglo-Saxons to write off all their debts and get a new gesheft. So it was twice in the 20th century, why not play now ?? Therefore, the corrupt government of Medvedev, the head of the central bank of Naibulin, Madame Gref and others make every effort to comply with the instructions of their owners. If you cry out with a question - what about Putin ??? I’ll answer right away. TSSSSS !!! wise Putin is in ambush.