The Japanese continue to hope for the return of the islands

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More than half of Japanese citizens believe that the government should focus today on negotiations on the return of the first two islands of the Kuril ridge - Habomai and Shikotan, and determine the status of the remaining disputed territories in the course of further consultations, leads RIA News the results of a survey conducted by the agency Kyodo.





It is reported that the majority of respondents - 53,2% agreed with the proposal to “return the first two islands with further determination of the status of the remaining two islands”. More resolute Japanese, who turned out to be 28,6%, insist on the return of "all four" islands at once. A smaller part (7,3%) fears that the authorities will be able to agree on the return of "only two islands."

At the same time, the “zero” option was not considered by the respondents at all. The survey was conducted this weekend.

Recall that the meeting of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe took place in Singapore on November 14. During the meeting, the two heads of state agreed to speed up the negotiation process, the outcome of which should be a peace treaty on the basis of a joint declaration of the 1956 year.

This document spelled out a provision on the willingness of the parties to further conclude a peace treaty, after which the Soviet Union would transfer the islands of Habomai and Shikotan to Japan. The declaration was ratified by both states, but then Tokyo refused to implement it, insisting on the return of four islands: the two mentioned, as well as Kunashir and Iturup. This requirement became the condition of the Japanese government to conclude a peace treaty.

Until now, the official position of the Japanese authorities was the condition: first the transfer of the 4 islands, and then the signing of a peace treaty.
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  1. +11
    16 December 2018 14: 44
    Our islands! Do not even hope.
    1. +15
      16 December 2018 14: 46
      You can hope, you can’t count ..
      1. +19
        16 December 2018 14: 50
        the position of the Japanese authorities was a condition: first transfer of 4 islands ...

        What is another peace treaty with the country in whose territory are the enemy military bases located?
        1. +12
          16 December 2018 14: 59
          In the east, we are short of stationary missile defense installations with dual-purpose mines, into which tomahawks can be loaded ...
          Shikotan Island, Spanberg Lighthouse.

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        3. +4
          16 December 2018 15: 15
          The hopes of the Japanese are completely in vain.
          Hunchback, you get a donut hole, not Volodya Sharapova. (WITH)
          1. +3
            16 December 2018 19: 39
            Quote: Bearded
            The hopes of the Japanese are completely in vain

            When we talk about the Japanese, breathlessly noticing the development of technology, they forget one thing, that by mentality they are very primitive and straightforward. Therefore, they were sent once, they do not understand, they were sent a second time, they do not understand. Pin-pong has already dragged them for a concept, no. Therefore, this story until Fujiyama floods them with lava wassat
      2. +2
        17 December 2018 15: 11
        Quote: Svarog
        You can hope, you can’t count ..

        Come on ... With the current government in Russia, so dearly loving money, big money, the Japanese have a very good chance of getting islands for only promises not to deploy troops there and big money in the economy of our country. That's just 100% sure that having received the islands, military bases will instantly be located there. And our economy will not see any money either - it’s in vain that we have so many "effective managers" who also need villas and vineyards in foreign countries.
        Well, looking at our political elite, you understand that for a lot of money they are ready for anything. Otherwise, why start these "negotiations" when Japan has not fulfilled the main condition for return - the presence of foreign military bases on its territory?
    2. +17
      16 December 2018 14: 58
      If you transfer the islands of Japan today, tomorrow they will have American military bases.
      Or have we not passed this in Europe and the Baltic ?!
      1. +7
        16 December 2018 18: 02
        Quote: prior
        If you transfer the islands of Japan today, tomorrow they will have American military bases.
        Therefore, it is necessary to raise the issue of transferring only one island.
        Hokkaido bully
      2. +8
        16 December 2018 18: 04
        Quote: prior
        If you transfer the islands of Japan today, tomorrow they will have American military bases.
        Or have we not passed this in Europe and the Baltic ?!

        If I am not mistaken, then in the 56th year, the condition for the transfer of 2 islands was the withdrawal of amers from Japan.
      3. PFT
        +1
        16 December 2018 18: 30
        Quote: prior
        tomorrow they will have American military bases.

        As you can see, Medvedev is free and he will be the next president of the Russian Federation. And he will give everything to the United States and the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad and the Crimea will return to Ukraine !!!
        1. +1
          16 December 2018 21: 24
          Will be the same "throne warmer" as last time
    3. +4
      16 December 2018 16: 15
      Hope dies last. It happens for a long time and it hurts ...
    4. -1
      16 December 2018 18: 39
      Quote: Destiny
      Our islands! Do not even hope.

      Local liberal all-ringer and Putin all-alms have long given everything to the samurai.
  2. +16
    16 December 2018 14: 46
    Something is not visible that they want to return, they do not recognize the return of Crimea, they do not sign a peace treaty, the American bases are warmed ... ... .. no, they won’t get anything!
    1. +8
      16 December 2018 14: 52
      first two islands
      Their appetites do not decrease! Generally need to close the question of
      discussing the transfer of OUR islands. Forever.
      1. +8
        16 December 2018 15: 03
        An old joke is known: “If a diplomat says yes, it can be, if he says maybe, it is no, if a diplomat says no, then this is not a diplomat.”
        In the second half of the XNUMXth century, the ending of the joke was developed: "... then this is Gromyko."
    2. +1
      16 December 2018 21: 26
      So it’s not they who warmed the bases, but the USA warmed Japan, so much so that it’s not going to get off it.
  3. +11
    16 December 2018 14: 48
    This is already pointless.
    They opened their mouths for a long time, they cannot close it by definition. Only ours to hand over .... and there only begin, pritenzy will be sprinkled as .......
    Just refuse, immediately everything is more stable and everyone will have it in their heads.
    They are the enemy and have always been / always will be.
  4. +6
    16 December 2018 14: 49
    Russia always has lip-rolling machines
    1. +7
      16 December 2018 19: 01
      Cars of course will be! We are afraid that they will allow it to be applied, and it will definitely be "ours", most likely very top ones.
      Think of the iPhone, Kinder Surprise and Mr. "what you please"! Shaw can't do this again?
      We yell, because we don’t want it, Schaub repeated this!
  5. +4
    16 December 2018 14: 56
    Why in general are we talking about transferring the islands in the concept of concluding a peace treaty? We had one foreign minister: Mr. NO. Where is he? Lavrov? No, I have not heard.
  6. +5
    16 December 2018 14: 57
    Maria Zakharova demanded that Japan take into account the conditions of the USSR in the Kuril Islands 13.12.2018/16/59 - 27:24 Russia believes that in diplomatic negotiations with Japan on the conclusion of a peace treaty all diplomatic correspondence on this issue should be taken into account, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria said Zakharova. “We proceed from the need to take into account all available diplomatic correspondence, including memorial notes of the government of the Soviet Union of January 1960 and February 1951, 1960,” she said. Both notes relate to the conclusion of a security treaty between Japan and the United States that secured a defense alliance between the two countries and legitimized the presence of the US military in Japan. Appeal of the Sakhalin Regional Duma: Exclude the question of transferring the Kuril Islands to Japan! World War II officially ended with the signing of the San Francisco Peace Treaty with Japan in 1956. However, the Soviet delegation refused to sign it, citing the fact that the interests of Moscow were not taken into account in the document. In particular, the rights of the USSR to territories belonging to Japan before the war were not recognized. Five years later, Moscow and Tokyo signed a joint declaration that ended the state of war between the two countries. The document stated a waiver of mutual claims, and the USSR also agreed to transfer to Japan part of the Kuril ridge - the island of Shikotan and the Habomai ridge. In 2018, Japan and the United States signed an agreement on mutual cooperation and security guarantees, which fixed a military alliance between the two countries. The Soviet government noted in notes that the Japan-US Security Treaty "seriously affects the situation in the Far East and the Pacific." Moscow considered that a military alliance with the United States deprives Japan of its independence, which makes it "impossible to fulfill the promise of the Soviet government to transfer the islands of Habomai and Sikotan to Japan." In conclusion, it is said that two islands can be transferred to Japan only under two conditions: the withdrawal of the American contingent and the conclusion of a peace treaty. In the second, February note, Moscow confirms its previous position: the Japanese-American treaty contradicts the promises made by Tokyo in the 2019 Soviet-Japanese declaration. In XNUMX, Russia and Japan intensified discussions on a peace treaty. So, in September, President Vladimir Putin proposed concluding it before the end of the year without preconditions. And the remaining problems of the country, “as friends”, will be solved later, he said. However, the position of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has not changed after that. Speaking to parliament in late October, he confirmed that Tokyo would sign the peace treaty only after the Kuril problem was resolved. Nonetheless, Japanese media reported that Tokyo seeks to intensify negotiations with Russia on this issue and achieve the transfer of the islands in XNUMX

    Source: http://rusnext.ru/news/1544709579
  7. +6
    16 December 2018 14: 57
    Why do we need a peace treaty? In general, and so we feel normal on our territory laughing how many years have passed and nothing interfered. Let them hope, otherwise they will lose the meaning of life, be upset lol
  8. +7
    16 December 2018 15: 00
    "The" zero "option was not considered by the respondents at all"...

    Hm. Tired of talking about this topic ... Are we being prepared for the transfer of the islands of Japan?
    I just want to say, for the "understanding Japanese": "In the fall, nightingales fly away, and the Japanese with the Kuril Islands remain" in flight over Paris "" ...
    1. +11
      16 December 2018 15: 18
      Quote: denart50
      Are we being prepared for the transfer of the islands of Japan?

      That's right, they cook. And quite successfully cooked. Otherwise, there would have been no talk of negotiations at all.
      1. +3
        16 December 2018 15: 21
        Quote: Henderson
        That's right, they cook. And quite successfully cooked.


        Not successful ... Me and my environment are not ready !!! ... laughing angry
        1. +10
          16 December 2018 15: 23
          And what will you do in case of transfer? If nothing but evil emoticons on the Internet, then you and your environment are already ready. The task of the cook is not at all a change in your opinion, the task of making you passive and humble.
          1. 0
            16 December 2018 15: 26
            Quote: Henderson

            And what will you do in case of transfer? If there is nothing but indignation in the Internet, then you and your environment are already fully prepared.


            Ugh on you ... bully You are trying to build a strategic political discussion from a half-joking phrase of a kitchen politician ... Holy, holy ... hi
            1. 0
              16 December 2018 15: 27
              Well, I'm sorry I won’t wink
  9. +2
    16 December 2018 15: 04
    The Japanese continue to hope for the return of the islands

    What are they hoping for?
    They cannot clear their own islands from the presence of others, and they have already opened their mouths on the "alien loaf".
    It’s possible to choke. Yes lol
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  12. +8
    16 December 2018 15: 07
    For the most part, the Russian people are against the transfer of the islands. But you can expect anything from our rulers. Five years of our life have been taken from us, what can we say about the islands. They won’t even ask us
  13. +1
    16 December 2018 15: 19
    The Japanese continue to hope for the return of the islands
    Hope ... hope dies last, hope influences the decision. We give this hope, and therefore have an impact on ... bully
  14. +5
    16 December 2018 15: 24
    During the meeting, the two heads of state agreed to speed up the negotiation process,
    ------------------------------
    What process to speed up ?! The Japanese need to make clear that they can’t see the islands like their ears !!! am
  15. +2
    16 December 2018 15: 26
    I believe that Russia generally should not conduct any conversations with promatras mongrel until the lifting of all restrictions, sanctions and other crap that the Japanese announced to Russia after the Mattresses ...
  16. 0
    16 December 2018 15: 50
    Hope dies last. Let them hope if it’s easier for them.
  17. 0
    16 December 2018 16: 44
    There is even an island on the Kuril ridge named after me "Yuri". How could I be without him? Why did our command of the Air Force, Air Defense, and the USSR Navy assign this name to the island (Habomai Archipelago).
  18. 0
    16 December 2018 16: 47
    And before talking about the peace treaty, the complete and unconditional liquidation of military bases of any state without the possibility of their restoration without the consent of Russia.
    1. 0
      16 December 2018 20: 01
      not quite instead of the pindo-their bases of the Base of Russia, the infrastructure must be left
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  20. 0
    16 December 2018 16: 57
    [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = lqhMrhxBzjM] Add video
  21. +6
    16 December 2018 17: 32
    After all the surprises presented to us in recent months by Mr. Putin, the surrender to the Japanese Kuril Islands will not even be a surprise.
  22. +7
    16 December 2018 17: 33
    On December 16 this year, an unauthorized rally against the transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan was held in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk! Not sanctioned because the local authorities, to please the Moscow regime, are trying in every possible way to "suppress" this topic! The fact that Putin, our "guarantor guaranteed from Above," raised the "Kuril wave" is a "bolt from the blue" for Sakhalin residents! Even such "super.hpunches"like Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they did not dare at one time on such a mean thing! Really 999,999%" I swear by my mother! "and 1001%" will not see the century! "The GARANT decided to be" meanest of all ........ "? How many people know that in 1945 in the USSR the" Victory Day over militarist Japan "was approved on September 3 as a holiday!? But they managed to celebrate it only twice: in 1945 and 1946. Since 1947, the holiday was canceled! Formally, no one canceled the holiday on September 3 (!), but no one in the USSR has officially celebrated since then ... (except for Sakhalin residents, at the level of local authorities ... unofficially). Meanwhile, Victory Day over Japan officially ( !) approved in Great Britain (August 14), USA (September 2) and China (September 3, recently)! Repeatedly, the Sakhalin authorities asked Moscow to restore the holiday on September 3, but they were refused! Sakhalin Oblast to close the "question" of the transfer of the Kuril Islands forever! Such a position as personally "gara nta "and the Moscow regime as a whole! Especially now, when the number of countries putting forward territorial claims to Russia is growing! China, Germany, Poland, Ukraine, the Baltics, Japan and, in my opinion, this is not the whole "list"! As Gorbachev once said, the main thing is to start! He didn't start ... didn't have time ... so what? Putin decided to correct this "mistake" and start to ruin Russia? And this happens when the Unity of the Whole People is of paramount importance in front of the threat of an approaching war! Doesn't Putin understand (or doesn't want to understand ...) that giving up the territory of Russia will cause a split in society into "red" and "white" !? And this is at such a difficult time! (In this case, I personally do not intend to defend the Moscow Putin regime!)
    1. +2
      16 December 2018 19: 36
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      On December 16 this year, an unauthorized rally was held in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk against the transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan!

      Fuck, twenty-one exclamation points ... wassat
    2. Alf
      +3
      16 December 2018 21: 10
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      (In this case, I personally do not intend to defend the Moscow Putin regime!)

      You will simply be called a non-patriot, an agent of the State Department and a bulk.
  23. +2
    16 December 2018 17: 36
    The point is to change a piece of paper on the islands? I hope 20 12 2018 will ask this question to Putin.
    1. Alf
      +3
      16 December 2018 21: 11
      Quote: Conductor
      I hope 20 12 2018 will ask this question to Putin.

      They will ask, ask and hear the next stream of verbiage.
  24. -2
    16 December 2018 17: 51
    All these polls, discussions, expectations are a pure product for domestic Japanese consumption. Japanese politicians make points on this without fail, but these hopes themselves are ridiculous.
  25. +1
    16 December 2018 18: 03
    The country (Japan), which lost the 2nd World War to the Soviet Union and other countries, SHOULD NOT dictate conditions to the winner, but obediently fulfill his will !! Who of the Japanese is not accessible to understanding ?! - Then IT is dangerous for their lives !!
    1. Alf
      +3
      16 December 2018 21: 13
      Quote: PValery53
      Country (Japan) losing World War II to the Soviet Union

      Where is the Soviet Union now? That's just the same .. And with modern Russia, the West can talk in whatever tone and set its own conditions, on which our wisest only expresses concern.
  26. 0
    16 December 2018 18: 09
    Holes to them from bagels, not islands.
  27. -3
    16 December 2018 18: 09
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    On December 16 this year, an unauthorized rally against the transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan was held in the city of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk! As Gorbachev once said, the main thing is to start! He didn't start ... didn't have time ... so what? Putin decided to correct this "mistake" and start to ruin Russia? And this happens when the Unity of the Whole People is of paramount importance in front of the threat of an approaching war! Doesn't Putin understand (or does not want to understand ...) that the return of Russian territory

    Already wrote to your “colleagues”: lies and slander cannot serve as the basis for something good. You lie and slander. Will you answer at least to your conscience or shake it off like dust from a sleeve, and continue to carry nonsense? Shame didn’t even appear on the horizon?

    The fact that Putin, our "guarantor guaranteed from Above," raised the "Kuril wave" is a "bolt from the blue" for Sakhalin residents! Even such "super.hpunches"like Gorbachev and Yeltsin, did not dare at one time on such a prank!

    In fact, Yeltsin was just about to do this. The process was stopped by security. Broaden your horizons.

    Is it really 999,999% "I swear by my mom!" And 1001% "there will be no freedom!" GARANT decided to be "meanest of all ........"?

    Are you okay? Why are you even writing this?

    They also received a refusal to appeal to the Sakhalin region to close the "issue" of the transfer of the Kuriles forever!

    Give links to media coverage of the event, or document numbers. Confirm your words. Or another empty yap from the Internet?

    This position of both the "guarantor" personally and the Moscow regime as a whole causes great bewilderment!

    Your writings cause enormous bewilderment. The President has repeatedly stated that no transfer of islands is out of the question and cannot be discussed. Everything is on the Internet: videos, media articles, interviews that directly contradict your nonsense.

    For example:
    “Yuri Trutnev, Presidential Envoy to the Far Eastern Federal District, told reporters that Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe have never discussed the transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan in recent negotiations.
    "As for the periodically discussed rumors about what will happen next with the Kuril Islands, I can tell you that on duty I participated in a number of negotiations between Putin and Abe - no problem of transferring the islands was ever discussed there," Trutnev told reporters "(https: //ria.ru/20181210/1547714459.html)

    “During a November 15 press conference, President Putin made the following statements:“ Russia has no problems with state borders, ”“ The Soviet-Japanese declaration says nothing about the conditions for the transfer of the two islands, nor about sovereignty ”(https: // inosmi .ru / politic / 20181123 / 244076965.html)

    So why are you scribbling lies, nonsense and your negative fantasies on the forum?
    1. 0
      17 December 2018 07: 45
      ((Shame didn’t even appear on the horizon?))
      I get a feeling of shame and annoyance when all sorts of dirty tricks like you "get in" on the VO and begin to shame "off the beaten path"!
      ((You lie and slander.))
      What is the lie and slander? request
      ((Actually, Yeltsin was just about to do this. The process was stopped by security agencies. Expand your horizons.))
      Yo-mine! At least stand, at least fall! Where am I to your "horizon", if you know everything for sure ... incl. and the fact that the country was ruled by "security organs", not Yeltsin! And where do I go with statements that then not only in Sakhalin, but also in Russia there were numerous protest rallies! We then "with a fool" decided that the "authorities" still heard the opinion of the people!
      ((Provide links to media coverage of the event, or document numbers.))
      Wait! Has overclocked your "jumps" to indulge! Contact the government, regional council of the Sakhalin region! Appeals of the Sakhalin Oblast Duma to Moscow: September 1, 1997. ; 2. March 2000; 3. July 2002 4. November 2003; 5.May 2004; 6. September 2016. Demands of the people at the rallies timed to the visits of "heads": Gorbachev, Yeltsin. Is it not enough for you, very much not respected by me?
      ((Your writings cause enormous bewilderment. The President has repeatedly stated that there is no talk about the transfer of the islands and cannot go.))
      I believe that the bewilderment that the Sakhaliners (Kuril residents) have been beating their nerves for decades ... and not only them, has more common sense! Neither I, nor anyone else would have said a "bad word" about Putin if the "Kuril issue" had been "closed once and for all"! And that's it !!! So no! Something (someone) is profitable for the Moscow authorities to keep this trump card in their sleeve. Such petty behavior causes shame for the ruling regime!
      ((So why are you scribbling lies, nonsense and your negative fantasies on the forum?))
      Do you want the people to be "silent in a rag" ... and then the authorities could "dirty" without looking back, as they please? Oh well...
      1. 0
        17 December 2018 10: 03
        You know Vladimiras long as the law exists, Federal Law 473 The Law on the TOPs allows you to pound yourself with your heel on your chest, nothing will change. Let’s say the Russian Federation doesn’t officially transfer the two islands, and according to this law, it is not leased for a period of 60 years to the officials. The Japanese will not be there where they need to. And you can say anything.
  28. 0
    16 December 2018 18: 10
    But the opinion of Russian citizens is asked or is it important only the opinion of Japanese citizens? So fuck you, not pork. And the skeleton of Hokaido was not always Japanese territory. It would be necessary to raise the question of his belonging to Russia. Most Russian citizens agree with this that Fr. Hokaido is a disputed territory and may, and should, even belong to Russia.
    1. 0
      16 December 2018 18: 43
      And in Manzhetten they dug up the Russian ruble, from the time of Ivan 3!
  29. +2
    16 December 2018 18: 43
    Exchange two real islands for a contract? At the same time, Toyota, Mitsui, Nissan, Mitsubishi are building factories in Russia, officially in the war with us. Even a little, China will be the main investor in Russia and the Japanese will have to work very hard to limit China's power. Japan’s self-restraint will not benefit , so you just have to wait until the corpse of your enemy swims past the river ......................
    1. Alf
      +1
      16 December 2018 21: 15
      Quote: APASUS
      so you just have to wait until the corpse of your enemy swims past the river ......................

      We will wait, so our corpse will float.
      1. 0
        17 December 2018 19: 51
        Quote: Alf
        We will wait, so our corpse will float.

        And what are worthy offers, to sell a little bit of land? Maybe you know what other recipe?
        1. Alf
          0
          17 December 2018 20: 11
          Quote: APASUS
          Maybe you know what other recipe?

          I know. The theme of the islands does not raise at all, under any circumstances. But! Not with this government.
  30. +1
    16 December 2018 19: 04
    Hope, as you know, is also worth something. For free, as they say, and the sore will not sit down. You have to pay money for everything, and by paying, you can dream.

    Dunno on the Moon))

    Japanese pay and dream laughing
  31. 0
    16 December 2018 19: 12
    With the Japanese, it is clear, it is not clear what kind of game our authorities started with the working groups on the islands
  32. 0
    16 December 2018 19: 47
    want a lot wassat
  33. +1
    16 December 2018 21: 20
    Stop clanking with them, the Foreign Ministry and the president should clearly indicate that Japan will not receive any islands from Russia, for the simple reason that it is Russian land and Russia does not give anything to anyone and does not sell it !!!
    And often remind them of the crimes that they committed against the occupied countries and peoples, otherwise I’ve completely lost my conscience.
  34. +1
    16 December 2018 21: 38
    Hope is a dubious haven.
    “The hopes of young men feed,
    The elders are given joy ”
    But still gradually melting.

    And finally, on the slope of days
    Suddenly understands man
    The vanity of hope, the futility of ideas ... (c)
  35. 0
    17 December 2018 00: 13
    Georgians and Abkhazia, Ukrainians and Crimea, Japanese and Kuril Islands, ...
    There are always those who want to bite off our land.
  36. 0
    17 December 2018 01: 23
    "The Japanese continue to hope for the return of the islands"
    Along the front and in depth! But the enemy is dangerous !!! Remember the war!
  37. 0
    17 December 2018 04: 03
    Hope nourished the samurai in front of the hara-kiri ...
  38. 0
    17 December 2018 05: 46
    let us hope further, the country occupied by the USA hopes for something else
  39. -1
    17 December 2018 11: 40
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    I get a feeling of shame and annoyance when all sorts of dirty tricks like you "get in" on the VO and begin to shame "off the beaten path"!

    You are a banal one, like Solzhenitsyn, who scribbled, scribbled fables, pressed himself, sucking out stories from his finger, and then it turned out that he had not harmed communism, but his country, by his own admission.
    You have exactly the same thing - with the help of fables, you achieve the overthrow of the current government, while at the same time you are engaged in slander, lies, and the dissemination of absurd, baseless claims that you cannot prove in anything. It does not stop you. How do you not linger, and before you start insulting your interlocutors. Your personality looms more and more clearly.

    Will you confirm your words, are you responsible for them? Where are links to media materials or document numbers of requests?
    Or do you want to establish yourself in the role of yap from the Internet, which the word conscience met only in the dictionary?
  40. 0
    17 December 2018 12: 14
    Wow, these Japanese ... They lost the war, the Second World War, they are weak-willed under the USA, and they don’t even return the gold taken away by civilians to civilian life, and besides, all the sanctions against Russia are supported ... What are the Karl Islands !! It's Russia !!! Since they consider these islands their own, after their loss, according to the code of samurai, they must make themselves hara-kiri))) We must lose with dignity. It’s even disgusting to look at their pathetic attempts to get the islands. It’s wrong, gentlemen, samurai or who are you there now? ((((
  41. 0
    17 December 2018 12: 45
    Hope dies last.
  42. 0
    17 December 2018 13: 30
    Sometimes it seems to me that the Japanese have been taunted with sophistication lately, keeping them on a short leash.
    If you want islands, it’s not a question, - Shikotan and the Habomai ridge according to the 1956 declaration, - well, - let's make plans to build, discuss and speak. Long. Often. To no avail.
    And the facts?
    Recently (December 13), M. Zakharova confirmed the Foreign Ministry’s commitment to the January and February statements of the USSR Government in 1960, and their text clearly states:
    "... only on the condition of the withdrawal of all foreign troops from the territory of Japan and the signing of a peace treaty between the USSR and Japan, the islands of Habomai and Shikotan will be transferred to Japan as provided by the Joint Declaration of the USSR and Japan of October 19, 1956. Source: Izvestia from January 29, 1960
    And when all foreign troops withdraw from Japan, it is clear that, at least, not during our lifetimes.
    So, - "We are waiting, sir".
    Why at one time they agreed to transfer Shikotan and Khabomai - obviously, due to the fact that in this case the Sea of ​​Okhotsk does not lose the status of the internal sea of ​​Russia (USSR). Here Kunashir and Iturup are all, goodbye, the inland Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and the straits are not freezing into the Pacific Ocean.
    But still on Iturup is Hitokappu Bay (now Kasatka), a cult place of Japanese militarists, from where the Japanese fleet went to Pearl Harbor.
    PS I do not think that something will fall into the hands of the Japanese, I do not believe, more precisely. Such a spit in people's memory will not be tolerated. This must be understood by the powers of our world. Grandfathers avenged Tsushima, returned Sakhalin and
    Kuril Islands!
    1. Alf
      0
      17 December 2018 18: 24
      Quote: Wizard_57
      Such a spit in people's memory will not be tolerated.

      What about the enclosed Mausoleum? And what about boards for Solzhenitsyn, Mannerheim in Leningrad, statements about the crimes of the "Stalinist regime", the Yeltsin Center?
      1. 0
        17 December 2018 22: 43
        As for the mausoleum and its inhabitant - it is debatable that there is a lot of blood on his hands, as for the fact of the Stalinist repressions - it was so, it’s stupid to deny the facts, as well as belittling I.V. before the USSR, but I can’t object to the planks and the Yeltsin center, it disgusts me.
        But this all leads to the side, we are not discussing the benefits of any social system.
        Essentially, on the Kuril Islands, have questions for me?
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    18 December 2018 04: 06
    As correctly noted, the Japanese are one of the most aging nations. Whom will they settle there (on Khabomai and Shikotan)? Soon the largest islands will be depopulated so that it will be like that proverb: I went out into the field, I sat down ... - I can see you far laughing