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Lukashenko Suspected Russia of Attempting to “Absorb” Belarus

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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said that Moscow could "incorporate Belarus into Russia" under the guise of deep integration, Interfax reports.


Lukashenko Suspected Russia of Attempting to “Absorb” Belarus


Responding to questions from Russian journalists at a press conference in Minsk, Alexander Lukashenko noted that Russia is trying to incorporate Belarus into Russia. He said that he understood Russian “hints”: get oil, but let's destroy the country and join Russia. Russia "by hook or by crook incorporates the country into another country," he added.

According to Lukashenko, the idea of ​​absorbing the Belarusian state comes directly from Moscow under the guise of "deep integration", which is necessary for Belarus to receive compensation for the tax maneuver in Russia. At the same time, some people in Moscow speak directly: we are ready for Belarus to become part of Russia in six regions. But this will not happen, he added, for Belarus, sovereignty is "this sacred."

On the eve of Brest, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev at a meeting of the Union Council of Ministers of Belarus and Russia said that Moscow was ready to further deepen integration with Minsk, up to the creation of joint courts, a central bank and other bodies.
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  1. Sergey39
    Sergey39 14 December 2018 15: 43
    +43
    They’ve been hinting to him for 20 years, but it’s only now.
    1. A good one
      A good one 14 December 2018 15: 49
      +25
      He voiced such a secret and decisiveness, apparently for the West he set his head to stroking and approving.
      1. For example
        For example 14 December 2018 18: 53
        +6
        incorporate

        Yes, you are already there for the most part "incorporated" by the West.

        Who was he talking to?
        They communicate with Russians in Russian.

        It turns out to those who live west of the borders of Belarus.
        1. For example
          For example 14 December 2018 19: 22
          +20
          for Belarus, sovereignty is "sacred."

          And in kueva they pray to such "shrines".

          And we are old-fashioned. We are Orthodox. Jesus is Lord to us. And all the saints in our Church.

          And the state for us is not holiness, but the way of the modern existence of our country. Thousands of years in our country.
          States have changed, and Russia as it was and remains.

          And Belarus is certainly sovereign. Azhnak is 27 years sovereign.
          And who were you before?

          Who were your fathers and grandfathers? For which country did they shed their blood side by side with my grandfathers? Although the "grandfathers" were not even thirty at that moment, they were not. Both died.

    2. Egorovich
      Egorovich 14 December 2018 15: 53
      +34
      And the faster we get together, the better. Long mustachioed in power, it's time to rest.
      1. Machito
        Machito 14 December 2018 16: 09
        +7
        In the confrontation between Russia and the West of Belarus it is necessary to choose a side, otherwise they will tear it into two parts, like Ukraine. The only question is how much is Belarus incorporated? Should a referendum be held? The people will not mind unification? In what form? The Confederation, I think, will be just right.
        1. Vladimir Postnikov
          Vladimir Postnikov 14 December 2018 16: 27
          -2
          For starters, we should stop terrorizing Belarus. And do not rush to make decisions for Belarusians. Most Belarusians, just like me, do not sympathize with present-day Russia with its sovereign oligarchic capitalism. Do not force them to choose between Scylla and Charybdis. Perhaps, after all, at first Russia should cease to be a monster, then Belarus would suddenly turn out to be a friendly country?
          1. Irokez
            Irokez 14 December 2018 16: 32
            +36
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            then Belarus will suddenly turn out to be a friendly country?

            You would think that we are now enemies. You express yourself more carefully.
            1. Vladimir Postnikov
              Vladimir Postnikov 14 December 2018 16: 40
              -26
              Quote: Irokez
              You express yourself more carefully.

              It is better for you to advise Vladimir Putin. We are not enemies yet, but with this ongoing propaganda campaign in the Russian media it is "not far off."
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 14 December 2018 16: 53
                +9
                Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                Quote: Irokez
                You express yourself more carefully.

                We are not enemies yet, but with this ongoing propaganda campaign in the Russian media it is "not far off."

                Here, our propaganda really works to its fullest, but about Belarus, there is practically nothing .. What exactly do you mean?
                1. Vladimir Postnikov
                  Vladimir Postnikov 14 December 2018 17: 07
                  -16
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Here, our propaganda really works to its fullest, but about Belarus, there is practically nothing .. What exactly do you mean?

                  You are joking?! You don't have to go far. Look here in the archives of the Military Review. Read news, articles, and comments to them. Read the comments on this article. How much more specific ?!
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 14 December 2018 17: 37
                    +15
                    Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Here, our propaganda really works to its fullest, but about Belarus, there is practically nothing .. What exactly do you mean?

                    You are joking?! You don't have to go far. Look here in the archives of the Military Review. Read news, articles, and comments to them. Read the comments on this article. How much more specific ?!

                    Oh, come on ... commentators, active, then there’s a maximum of 1000 typed .. it’s active, a total of 4 ml .. if I’m not mistaken, he’s visiting the site .. well, this is kalya at sea .. I mean the official Russian media .. Russia loves and appreciates Belarusians, as well as Ukrainians .. well, except for the Nazis .. So, do not confuse the policies of leaders and the attitude of ordinary people, we are strong with our people and this is not unstable .. leaders leave and come ... and we are one people ! Although they were very late, our leaders in power, what you have, what we have .. laughing hi drinks
                  2. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 14 December 2018 17: 55
                    +46
                    Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                    That you better advise Vladimir Putin. We (RB and RF), so far, are not enemiesbut with this ongoing propaganda campaign in the Russian media, it is "not far off."

                    This is a very dubious statement, because in practice we have the following:
                    1. R. Belarus did not recognize and does not recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia for pro-Western and NATO-oriented Georgia against Russia. Where is the unity of Belarus in the CSTO?
                    2. The Republic of Belarus supplies military products for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is fighting in the DPR and LPR, and will supply them even after military mobilization and the civil war in Ukraine, as well as in the event of an armed conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
                    Where is the unity of Belarus in the CSTO?
                    3. Despite the ban of the Russian government to import products from Ukraine, R. Belarus supplies them to Russia and has its own gesheft from trade with Ukraine. Where is the unity of Belarus in the CSTO?
                    4. The organization of a joint Russian military base on the territory of the Republic of Belarus was denied. Where is the unity of Belarus in the CSTO?
                    5. On the other hand, Belarus wants to continue receiving Russian oil at discounted prices for Belarus. Here we have "UNITY" RB with Russia as part of it in the CSTO.

                    TOTAL. It turns out that in relations between Belarus and the Russian Federation, Lukashenko plays manipulatively against Russia on the side of the "collective West" and tries to sit on two chairs - Russia and the "collective West". Moreover, not having any benefits from the West in general, but only debts to the IMF and their foreign interference in the sovereign affairs of Belarus!
                    1. VeteranVSSSR
                      VeteranVSSSR 14 December 2018 21: 16
                      -13
                      Tatyana, answer my questions:
                      - who recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia
                      -what is the money turnover in the business of Russia in Ukraine
                      -all products that are imported from Ukraine through the Republic of Belarus to Russia is Russian business
                      -military base in Belarus is so vital to Russia
                      ?????
                      1. Petrograd
                        Petrograd 17 December 2018 00: 20
                        0
                        Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                        VeteranVSSSR
                        Offline
                        VeteranVSSSR (Gennady) December 14, 2018 21:16 p.m.
                        -13
                        Tatyana, answer my questions:
                        - who recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia
                        -what is the money turnover in the business of Russia in Ukraine
                        -all products that are imported from Ukraine through the Republic of Belarus to Russia is Russian business
                        -military base in Belarus is so vital to Russia
                        ?????

                        A NATO base in Belarus is needed, and for what purpose? For Russia, military bases are needed, we want to protect ourselves and you potatoes, well, if you’re a shit, then you need NATO bases, Pepsi with a Coke and a burger to eat, eat this miracle of food and die from cancer, apparently this is your limit Dreams der..mantirovanny you ours.
                        Independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, we recognized the Russian Federation, you were the people of the Republic of Belarus sitting and increasing fat at that time (not a single citizen of the Republic of Belarus responded and helped them, whose people were crushed by Mishiko tanks), in Serbia you weren’t-bulbash, were afraid I’ll take care of everything. For Crimea, you’re afraid of recognizing sovereignty, you’re afraid of everything, look for cookies, decide at least, or should you wear a democratic saucepan all your life (like in / in Ukraine) or be part of the Russian Federation?
                    2. kiril1246
                      kiril1246 14 December 2018 22: 01
                      -8
                      Quote: Tatiana

                      4. The organization of a joint Russian military base on the territory of the Republic of Belarus was denied. Where is the unity of Belarus in the CSTO?

                      I only recall that in the 1940 year the Baltic states were included in the USSR, starting with the deployment of their military bases there. Old scripts.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 December 2018 23: 25
                        +7
                        Quote: kiril1246
                        I only recall that in the 1940 year the Baltic states were included in the USSR, starting with the deployment of their military bases there. Old scripts.

                        Your statement in the historical plan is absolutely incorrect. Namely.

                        First of all. And what do you need - so that the poor Balts in 1940 continue to be under the boot of Nazi Germany? And so that they continue to hunt for the destruction of nothing more than the mass destruction of the Jews brought in for destruction, for example, in the same Lithuania from all over Europe? So what?
                        Now you are essentially the genocide of the same Jews from all over Europe in the Baltic states - before the accession of the Baltic states to the USSR in 1940 - JUST!

                        Secondly. And what do you think the sovereign R. Belarus without a Russian military base allegedly guaranteed on the eve of the TMV war of the "collective West" with Russia and "the Russian world - in view of its buffer geographic position in Eastern Europe -" will not be under the boot of NATO troops?! and it won’t take part under the leadership of the Pentagon in the NATO war with Russia on the side of NATO for the transatlantic globalist interests of the United States over Washington’s dominance around the world ?!
                        What sovereignty of R. Belarus - in principle - in this case, as you say, can there be a conversation in the future? If, in your opinion, R. Belarus does not need a Russian military base and Russia itself.
                      2. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 20: 01
                        -3
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Your statement in the historical plan is absolutely incorrect. Namely.

                        in 2014, there was a Russian military base in Sevastopol.
                        Where is Crimea now?
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 15 December 2018 20: 51
                        +3
                        Quote: prosto_rgb
                        in 2014, there was a Russian military base in Sevastopol.
                        Where is Crimea now?

                        In 2014, there was no RVB in Kiev. What is now in Kiev?
                      4. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 23: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: prosto_rgb
                        in 2014, there was a Russian military base in Sevastopol.
                        Where is Crimea now?

                        In 2014, there was no RVB in Kiev. What is now in Kiev?

                        the question was that:
                        availability grew. bases and the inclusion of a country (or part thereof) in the Russian Federation is historically incorrect
                        however, we have what we have
                      5. Petrograd
                        Petrograd 17 December 2018 00: 24
                        0
                        Quote: kiril1246
                        I only recall that in the 1940 year the Baltic states were included in the USSR, starting with the deployment of their military bases there. Old scripts.

                        What are you. In the Baltic states (Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia) initially there were not (from the word at all) any military bases, after joining the USSR, garrisons were, yes.
                    3. Adimius38
                      Adimius38 15 December 2018 07: 13
                      -10
                      why should Belarus dance to the Russian tune?
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 15 December 2018 12: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: Adimius38
                        why should Belarus

                        Because she cannot defend herself. Lukashenka was able to keep the country from the chaos of the 90s, well done, I do not argue, but if our "partners" take it seriously, he will not be able to do anything.
                      2. Adimius38
                        Adimius38 15 December 2018 19: 25
                        +3
                        I agree, but the defense of Belarus is primarily in the Russian interests, in the interests of Russia's national security. Therefore, Belarus does not have to dance to our tune; I’ll even say more than this and should not do it. It is enough to be just our equal ally and partner, if this really worked in full, then there would be no offense. Those who already have three citizenships and are ready to ruin Belarusian industry for the sake of profit cannot be allowed into Belarus, and there are enough of these in the Russian elite
                  3. Svetlana
                    Svetlana 14 December 2018 23: 54
                    -3
                    Yes, he likes to spread rot in the Old Man, as, indeed, all federal channels on TV. And Old Man, like that cat Vaska, listens, but eats. Well done! And his suspicions are well-founded.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 15 December 2018 05: 11
                      +11
                      Quote: Svetlana
                      Yes, he likes to spread rot in the Old Man, as, indeed, all federal channels on TV. And Old Man, like that cat Vaska, listens, but eats. Well done! And his suspicions are well-founded.

                      stop If in such cases the cat Vaska was a fine fellow, Krylov would not write a fable about such "cats Vasek"! sad
                      And now Russia’s suspicions are well-founded!
                      1. Petrograd
                        Petrograd 15 December 2018 23: 20
                        +3
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        If in such cases the cat Vaska was a fine fellow, Krylov would not write a fable about such "cats Vasek"!
                        And now Russia’s suspicions are well-founded!

                        I absolutely agree with you, Tatyana, as soon as the problems are critical in Russia, this "former city committee member" jumps around, as it is good in our country, so it becomes a best friend, behavior like women with low social responsibility.
              2. You Vlad
                You Vlad 14 December 2018 16: 59
                +8
                Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                ... We are not enemies yet, but with this ongoing propaganda campaign in the Russian media it is not far off.

                Which one, if not secret?
                1. Vladimir Postnikov
                  Vladimir Postnikov 14 December 2018 17: 12
                  -13
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  Which one, if not secret?

                  See above. I close my comments on this article, and on this topic on this resource. If what I mentioned here is irrelevant, then good. So these are my fantasies. So nothing threatens our good relations with Belarusians. hi
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 14 December 2018 17: 19
                    +11
                    Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                    So these are my fantasies. So nothing threatens our good relations with Belarusians.

                    I do not know exactly how in Belarus to the Russians laughing They treat us, but we only feel warm feelings for Belarusians! Well, until I noticed that we manage to get rid of us, as with the Ukrainians, to whom we also feel only warm feelings and pain, that a civil war is going on in their country. hi
                    1. Vladimir Postnikov
                      Vladimir Postnikov 15 December 2018 01: 33
                      -2
                      Quote: You Vlad
                      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                      So these are my fantasies. So nothing threatens our good relations with Belarusians.

                      Please do not distort, and do not pull out of context. In the context of the subjunctive mood. IF A ...
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              4. Turist1996
                Turist1996 14 December 2018 19: 59
                -4
                And I, nevertheless, in support of Comrade Postnikov: before inviting others to your "fair", you create for your own conditions: lower the retirement age, lower the VAT, and seriously bomb the "fat-ass" people with the same money.
                Do what we would like in China !!
                That's when the whole Tribaltic and Belarus and the outskirts - "all the flags are on a visit to us!"
                And then we all are in the style of the 90s - we want to put everything on the counter ..
                The faces of those who are few are already bursting with fat !!
                "I want to be a shareholder of OAO Gazprom" (c) Semyon Slepakov.
              5. not main
                not main 14 December 2018 22: 57
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                Quote: Irokez
                You express yourself more carefully.

                It is better for you to advise Vladimir Putin. We are not enemies yet, but with this ongoing propaganda campaign in the Russian media it is "not far off."

                Here is the answer! Russia is to blame for everything! And the rest are out of business!
              6. AlexG83
                AlexG83 15 December 2018 03: 16
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                Quote: Irokez
                You express yourself more carefully.

                It is better for you to advise Vladimir Putin. We are not enemies yet, but with this ongoing propaganda campaign in the Russian media it is "not far off."

                That’s why nuclear power plants are being built for you?
              7. serg.shishkov2015
                serg.shishkov2015 15 December 2018 11: 13
                -1
                I will not stop at VO will declare their love for your country! Events dedicated to the 60th anniversary of the USSR. My class for the whole school had to prepare an evening about Belarus, and I, as the main chef of the school, about your literature. And in 1983 in * Artek * in my detachment there were many from the BSSR, one girl lived not far from Khatyn. We have not forgotten anything, brothers !!
            2. Ural-4320
              Ural-4320 14 December 2018 16: 47
              -7
              Mentally, it’s not enemies, but economically very different. Do you think Belarusians will be happy with fuel at gas stations at prices of the Kaliningrad region at 43-44 rubles for the 92nd?
              1. Turist1996
                Turist1996 14 December 2018 20: 18
                +7
                And I, from Siberia, are terribly interested in the very same question - what the hell is gasoline so expensive for us ?!
                And from all the explanations I made the one and only, but the most correct conclusion: I want them so much !!
                They do not care about the development of the country - the main thing: their pockets!
                Only one nuance - I will not go to war, like my grandfather in the Second World War.
                And I will not send my son, despite propaganda!
                For I do not want to die myself for the interests of Sechin, Miller or Rotenberg, and even more so to ditch my son there!
                1. kiril1246
                  kiril1246 14 December 2018 22: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: Turist1996
                  I will not go to war, like my grandfather in the Second World War.

                  Ie if tomorrow the Americans invade, will you serve them?
                2. Stalevar79
                  Stalevar79 14 December 2018 23: 45
                  +6
                  And I, from Siberia, are terribly interested in the very same question - what the hell is gasoline so expensive for us ?!

                  Every night, Putin tries to lower gas prices and retirement age, but as soon as he is going to sign the necessary papers, Chubais and Sechin fly into the office, Chubais threatens Putin with a gun while Sechin wringes his hand and removes the fountain pen. laughing
                3. SASHA OLD
                  SASHA OLD 15 December 2018 10: 01
                  -4
                  Only one nuance - I will not go to war, like my grandfather in the Second World War.
                  Do not disgrace the Siberians, cowardly hyena!
              2. Svetoch
                Svetoch 15 December 2018 00: 58
                +2
                Of course they will be delighted. In Belarus it is more expensive laughing If you translate into Russian rubles, then somewhere will be 45 rubles)))
          2. Eragon
            Eragon 14 December 2018 16: 38
            +15
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            For starters, we should stop terrorizing Belarus. And do not rush to make decisions for Belarusians. Most Belarusians, just like me, do not sympathize with present-day Russia with its sovereign oligarchic capitalism.

            M-yes ... And to whom do you sympathize? Just wondering. I am from Russia. Are you Poland, the Baltic states, Ukraine, Germany, the USA? ... What country is an example to follow? And most importantly, did you live in that country, or so, all the knowledge from the Internet? Not a tourist or student, but a simple local man in the street.
            And who is terrorizing Belarus and in what form is this terror expressed?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 14 December 2018 16: 43
              +11
              So the Old Man appeared ... After all, he understands that within Russia, when the enemies are fierce, it’s time for a long time .. and it will be beneficial for the Belarusians themselves, but damn, how come ... you’ll have to be governors from the Presidents ... it’s impossible .. Tatarstan, the same thing, the only president remained .. What kind of people have the beyond pride ..
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 14 December 2018 17: 04
                +1
                Quote: Svarog
                What is beyond the pride of people ..

                This is your first time in first grade! Power !!! Power !!! What could be sweeter? laughing Many go to her in different ways, but byala, not everyone reaches. And those who criticize the authorities also seek her darling, power !!! yes
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 14 December 2018 17: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  Yes, byad, not all reach.

                  The fact that not everyone arrives is not a problem .. trouble, when they do not leave during time ..
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                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 14 December 2018 18: 16
                      +2
                      Quote: you Vlad
                      Quote: Svarog
                      trouble when they do not leave during ..

                      And you decide when the time has come laughing I look you are a democrat, my friend, and drown for the Communists who are such a country pr - and !!

                      To be precise, I consider myself to be a socialist .. Communists are the same socialists, but more radical .. of course, I will be on the side of the communists always when I’m next to be liberal or democrat .. I don’t decide when the time has come. Liberals adopt the Constitution first, and then, what they themselves have accepted, for the sake of their loved ones, in every possible way seek out loopholes to circumvent laws .. we are talking about Putin, of course .. A person degrades when so much is in power ... not only about Putin , he doesn’t change people at key places, despite obvious failures am What is this talking about? Yes, that they propagated nepotism and corruption ... and Putin propagated it .. with their strange approach .. we don’t plant our own .. That's it, everyone is now striving to become their own and then steal ..
                      1. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 14 December 2018 18: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog
                        A person degrades when so much is in power ... not only about Putin,

                        But what do YOU ​​know about power, managing people and the country? NOTHING !!! People have been taught this since childhood and pass on management experience from generation to generation.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Yes, that propagated nepotism and corruption ... and Putin propagated it .. his strange approach .. do not plant their own ..

                        Do you think if they stop stealing, you will get more? No, they won’t! You know, I don’t care how much they put in their own pocket to work for the interests of the country! And honest fools, I’m not interested! If you think that theft can be eradicated, you are a naive person yes Opposition parties in the struggle for power usually remember about theft, when they get it, they already steal laughing So all this is water ..
                      2. Svarog
                        Svarog 14 December 2018 19: 02
                        +3
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        What do you know about power, people management and the country? NOTHING !!!

                        I’m a manager for 20 years .. in Western corporations .. and who are you? And what do you know? laughing

                        Quote: You Vlad
                        If you think that theft can be eradicated, you are a naive person

                        You can’t eradicate - this is the nature of man .. but to reduce and in our case to reduce by several orders of magnitude .. this is quite realistic ..
                      3. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 14 December 2018 19: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I’m a manager for 20 years .. in Western corporations .. and who are you? And what do you know?

                        I noticed how you work here from morning to evening! Do not pull on your personality request
                        Quote: Svarog
                        but to reduce and in our case to reduce by several orders of magnitude .. this is quite realistic ..

                        Well, yes, we will steal quietly, not even anyone will recognize good
                      4. Svarog
                        Svarog 14 December 2018 19: 43
                        -1
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I’m a manager for 20 years .. in Western corporations .. and who are you? And what do you know?

                        I noticed how you work here from morning to evening! Do not pull on your personality

                        Well, I'm out of work now laughing I’ve been sitting for three months .. so there’s time ..
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        but to reduce and in our case to reduce by several orders of magnitude .. this is quite realistic ..

                        Well, yes, we will steal quietly, not even anyone will recognize

                        I didn’t talk about that ..
                      5. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 14 December 2018 19: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Well, I’m now without work. I’ve been sitting for three months .. so there’s time ..

                        Yes, you’re already sitting here for a year, if that!
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I didn’t talk about that ..

                        Well, yes, you told a fairy tale for the night. It is only necessary ... whom do we have in power? laughing Manager with 20 years of experience belay , you are transparent and with logic, it’s really hard for you! And I am a simple hard worker and I do not whine.
                      6. Svarog
                        Svarog 14 December 2018 20: 07
                        0
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        And I am a simple hard worker and I do not whine.

                        Yes, employers like them wink
                      7. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 14 December 2018 20: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Yes, employers like them

                        And people like you, apparently not very request
                      8. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 15 December 2018 01: 32
                        0
                        People have been taught this since childhood and share management experience from tingling в tingling.

                        From the word cripple chtol?
                        Theft is usually recalled by opposition parties in the struggle for power, so when they get it, they begin to steal. So all this is water ..

                        And that’s why none of those influencing
                        party country management should not be
                        the ability to make decisions alone.
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              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 14 December 2018 18: 31
                0
                So Old Man showed up ..
                You are very wrong. Forgot what is happening in Russia? Someone increases the VAT, someone increases the retirement age. Taking the eighth skin from the people, they want to stick to Belarus.
                Be consistent. In other topics, you know who is responsible for the mess in the country.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 14 December 2018 19: 00
                  +4
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  So Old Man showed up ..
                  You are very wrong. Forgot what is happening in Russia? Someone increases the VAT, someone increases the retirement age. Taking the eighth skin from the people, they want to stick to Belarus.
                  Be consistent. In other topics, you know who is responsible for the mess in the country.

                  This time, I don’t think that the government is to blame for relations with Belarus .. The authorities say you want big nishtyaks than now, be a part of Russia, Old Man doesn’t want this, but nishtyaki wants .. And I think that Belarus and Ukraine should to become part of Russia .. it doesn’t matter how it looks .. but it’s not separate states ..
                  1. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 14 December 2018 19: 05
                    +3
                    Old Man does not want this, but nishtyaki wants ..
                    There were nishtyaks in the Union, for example, free education and medicine, paid leave, and so on. But the authorities asked for the provided nishtyaki. Now they have raised the retirement age, and in return we ask you to be sympathetic, he recently said that the state should not owe you anything. And under these conditions Belarus should, and to whom it should. These are afraid from Poland to ask for demolition of monuments to Soviet heroes, and they want to nightmare Belarus.
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 14 December 2018 19: 22
                      +2
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      Old Man does not want this, but nishtyaki wants ..
                      There were nishtyaks in the Union, for example, free education and medicine, paid leave, and so on. But the authorities asked for the provided nishtyaki. Now they have raised the retirement age, and in return we ask you to be sympathetic, he recently said that the state should not owe you anything. And under these conditions Belarus should, and to whom it should. These are afraid from Poland to ask for demolition of monuments to Soviet heroes, and they want to nightmare Belarus.

                      Well, in that case too, I don’t want to pay Lukashenko’s Wishlist from my taxes .. as a result, it falls on the population .. Nevertheless, I think if you want to receive everything from Russia at Russian prices, etc., then be part of Russia .. And then we’ll deal with liberals and democrats .. One doesn’t interfere with the other .. in this case it is necessary to separate flies from cutlets .. Liberals will not be in power forever and by their actions they only bring their flight abroad .. but Belarus should be with us no matter what the power is now ..
                      1. Ivan Ivanov
                        Ivan Ivanov 15 December 2018 16: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Nevertheless, I think if you want to receive everything from Russia at Russian prices, etc. then be a part of Russia

                        But here it’s not a fact, it’s possible to become a part but still not to deal with the liberals and their bulk reflection, Belarus can be understood, Stalin is here for us as a tyrant, Solzhenitsyn’s year and GDP reveals monuments to him, what can they expect from us?
                  2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke 15 December 2018 01: 47
                    +1
                    This time, I don’t think that the authorities are to blame for relations with Belarus .. The authorities say you want big nishtyaks than now, be a part of Russia, the Old Man doesn’t want this, but the nishtyaks want ..

                    "Father" just does not want capitalism in
                    its wild Russian version. And he is right.
                    He was the only (!) Who in the USSR Armed Forces voted against the dissolution of the Union.
                    His answer to the question of juveniles in "Jubilee" in St. Petersburg
                    "How are Belarusians different from Russians?":
                    - "Nothing. The same Russians, only with a quality mark."
                    1. prosto_rgb
                      prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 20: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                      He was the only (!) Who in the USSR Armed Forces voted against the dissolution of the Union.

                      only not in the USSR Armed Forces, but the BSSR Armed Forces
                      and not against, but abstained
            2. Vladimir Postnikov
              Vladimir Postnikov 14 December 2018 16: 56
              -13
              Quote: Eragon
              And who is terrorizing Belarus and in what form is this terror expressed?

              Who, who? Probably a horse in a coat!
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 14 December 2018 17: 08
                +6
                Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                Who, who? Probably a horse in a coat!

                Well, you do not leave the topic, you wrote, people are interested yes
              2. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 20: 12
                0
                Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
                horse in coat

                horses in the finger they are
            3. white.eagle
              white.eagle 14 December 2018 19: 07
              +2
              Germany is a strategic partner of Russia. Russia will live without Belarus. Without Germany, Russia will lose its position not only in Europe. On the other hand, the fate of Belarus also depends on Germany. If Nord Stream II is created, Putin will completely stop gas supplies to Belarus. And then this country will quickly collapse.
              1. Naive
                Naive 14 December 2018 20: 08
                +1
                Sometimes you even want something like this to happen. Maybe people will stir. ps. But this will not happen!
          3. Konstantin Shevchenko
            Konstantin Shevchenko 14 December 2018 16: 44
            +11
            It's strange, but they cooperate with oligarchic capitalism, and Lukashenka also complains that it is weak. Russia is a monster shipping gas, oil and more loot in the mouth so that socialism does not rot. Turn to the "beautiful Poland" and be in the trend of the market economy.
          4. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 14 December 2018 17: 26
            +17
            Tell me about the methods of terror?)
            Do not want to feed like in the USSR?
            Cleverly invented, you customize the sweets for us, and we take you to gilyaku .. Somewhere I have already seen such "wise men", though they were too clever 5 years ago ... but that is.
            I think that if you want to be given something, then you yourself would have to fork out.
            And then "let us into your markets, give us oil land, a discount on gas" - Mr. Luca hinted at this more than once and took offense .... But I didn't see something, so that he gave something in response, except for reproaches.
            Wanguyu, if you ask for a pie, even from the most dry and unprofitable enterprise, Luka will scream about "an attempt on sovereignty." Very strange things.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 December 2018 18: 34
              -4
              Do not want to feed like in the USSR?
              Well, to America your millions of money are transferred and nothing.
          5. Altona
            Altona 14 December 2018 17: 47
            +8
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            For starters, we should stop terrorizing Belarus. And do not rush to make decisions for Belarusians. Most Belarusians, just like me, do not sympathize with present-day Russia with its sovereign oligarchic capitalism.

            -----------------------------------
            Have you decided to transfer your antipathies to us? Why are you so "terrorized"? Free weapons, gas discounts? You are "nezalezhnie".
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 December 2018 18: 36
              -6
              You decided your dislikes
              And are you Brutus? Forgot what power in Russia? Hello! Macaros is not a pity.
          6. vitvit123
            vitvit123 14 December 2018 17: 48
            +7
            [quote = Vladimir Postnikov] First, you need to stop terrorizing Belarus. And do not rush to make decisions for the Belarusians. Most Belarusians, like me, do not sympathize with today's Russia with its sovereign oligarchic capitalism. Don't make them choose between Scylla and Charybdis. Maybe, after all, first Russia should stop being a monster, then Belarus will suddenly turn out to be a friendly country? [/ Quote
            THOSE. Stop Containing Belarus ???
          7. shans2
            shans2 14 December 2018 18: 09
            +5
            Zmagars are the same scum as Bandera .. well, you understand .... although this is the same only under a different name and with the same sponsors.
          8. SSR
            SSR 14 December 2018 18: 37
            +11
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            Perhaps, after all, at first Russia should cease to be a monster, then Belarus would suddenly turn out to be a friendly country?

            That is, your socialism at the expense of our capitalism with its terrible face is comme il faut for you, and when you are told, well, live on equal terms and extend your socialism independently and at your own expense, then you will not immediately comme il faut.
            They settled comfortably, like oil and gas at a preferential price, so for a mile a soul, but how to recognize Ossetia or Abkhazia, so just turn up the "snout"?
            I understand that you have your own situation and your own moods there, but being a "proud parasite" somehow does not fit.
          9. viralig
            viralig 14 December 2018 18: 38
            +9
            Vladimir, can we have a viable economy now? Can I find out what she is? Apparently SOCIALLY DISORiented. Only heard on TV about improving the business climate. Digitalization of the economy ??? - try the bitcoin to taste with us. In fact, money can be poured into our economy, but withdrawal is not possible. We actually live off loans, Russian oil and cheap gas. The polarization of society is in full swing - divide and rule - heard hopefully. Can I find out? As the products of our enterprises, in the same Russia, are cheaper than ours, moreover, they are of better quality, and they push us illiquid assets. Russia has resources. Belarus, what in fact remains for 20 years ??? Science-ditched. About agriculture, you can not tell me - without processing it is deeply unprofitable. Post-production, too. What will we do when Russia refuses military orders (for example, wheeled heavy tractors, in 10 years they will do it at KAMAZ). Yes, and for the majority of Belarusians you are enough. People think more about how to stretch from paycheck to paycheck. Friendly Belarus was and is, as is Russia for us. I confirm from my own experience that even when I arrived in Moscow for the first time, to whom I spoke to people only via the Internet, I received a warm welcome. But you still need to choose, and not try to sit on two chairs. Yes and there is no sense for Russia to join Belarus. They do not need this hemorrhoids - it is even trite economically disadvantageous.
            1. Altona
              Altona 15 December 2018 19: 20
              0
              Quote: viralig
              Friendly Belarus was and is, as is Russia for us. I confirm from my own experience that even when I arrived in Moscow for the first time, to whom I spoke to people only via the Internet, I received a warm welcome.

              ------------------------
              Yes, Peter, we have common problems, and you and I absolutely don’t need to have a dog. I mean you and me personally. Having divided the country, our economies joined the maelstrom of the global division of labor to replace the intra-union one. And this is a fact that is called reinforced concrete, and you correctly pointed to it. This does not at all cancel our good attitude towards both Belarusians and Ukrainians who understand this factor and do not participate in the internecine clique imposed on us from above.
          10. stalki
            stalki 14 December 2018 18: 40
            +7
            I wonder what side are we monsters? I also do not like the position of Belarus that has developed at this political moment. But I do not allow my neighbors to call such words. We are all the same Slavs, fraternal peoples. Much survived together. It is necessary to agree and support each other. Separately, we will break it all know. And no Slavs will want to, do not sit aside. History has confirmed all this more than once. Slavic peoples only united were indestructible.
            1. viralig
              viralig 14 December 2018 19: 07
              +5
              Sergey - I, like most people with whom I have to communicate, DEEPLY not enthusiastic about such a position of our elite, not counting those units to whom the zomboyaschik brainwashed until they were completely zeroed. When they say one thing in the eye and do another thing for the eyes. They can only punish directly. And I apologize for people like Vladimir. Only in our country it is impossible at all for ordinary people to influence the decisions of the authorities at all. Just be sure that if the authorities really choose the west side, the eastern part of Belarus, to put it mildly, will not support them. I can’t say for the western one, there are too few friends there.
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          12. Dart2027
            Dart2027 14 December 2018 19: 18
            +6
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            And do not rush to make decisions for Belarusians.

            Do they have the ability to make decisions? They have two options.
            1) Belarus really smoothly and painlessly integrates into Russia.
            2) Russia will cease to "protect" it and the EU and the US will make another "Somalia" out of it.
            This is called politics.
          13. The Little Humpbacked Horse
            The Little Humpbacked Horse 14 December 2018 19: 27
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            Most Belarusians, just like me, do not sympathize with present-day Russia with its sovereign oligarchic capitalism


            Well, they again dragged on the old song about the evil Russian aligarchs, at first they feed cheap oil and gas from the hands of these very oligarchs, and then they stand in a pose like the kitty of sparrows in twelve chairs
          14. Separ
            Separ 14 December 2018 20: 07
            +4
            And why are we so scary? The poor have terrorized you .. You at least recognized our Crimea, but would support us in international affairs ... and then you will be rewarded a hundredfold ..
            1. Antares
              Antares 14 December 2018 22: 53
              +1
              Quote: Separ
              You would at least recognize our Crimea, and would support us in international affairs ... and then you will be rewarded handsomely ..

              I wonder why Belarus is blamed for not recognizing something from the list of Russian "sanction products" (territories)? Logically, after all - then you need to keep the advice with RB, is it necessary for RB? RB recognition will result in the loss of the second largest partner, it will not receive compensation for this.
              RB asked before the recognition of the Russian Federation in something? Hardly. Just confronted with the fact. What then is the collision? Recognize this, admit it ... even US satellites may refrain from decisions, but here they directly demand.
              The Republic of Belarus, therefore, strongly supports pro-Russian positions, for which it is harshly criticized. From sports to politics, the Republic of Belarus also bears this difficult cross of Russian politics, but it is unhappy with it in the Russian Federation - they did not recognize it. Gref also did not recognize him. He can, RB can not.
              Instead of the Russians, I will say thanks to the Republic of Belarus for the fact that, to the detriment of itself, it tried to help the Russian Federation under severe pressure and between two fires.
              I advise the Russians to remember about the logs, before searching for specks in the eyes of Belarus ...
              It is such tactics as it is now applied to the Republic of Belarus that saved the Russian Federation from all sorts of allies, satellites and simply loyal people ..
          15. BecmepH
            BecmepH 15 December 2018 07: 08
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            Maybe, after all, first Russia should stop being a monster,

            Isn’t it scary to sit on the monster’s neck?
            Or Belarus, like a fish sticking? The shark is a monstrous fish, but it doesn’t stick. Or Belarus, like that bird dragging, which collects from the body of rhinoceroses of cockroach bugs, and thereby lives?
          16. Petrograd
            Petrograd 15 December 2018 23: 13
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
            For starters, we should stop terrorizing Belarus. And do not rush to make decisions for Belarusians. Most Belarusians, just like me, do not sympathize with present-day Russia with its sovereign oligarchic capitalism. Do not force them to choose between Scylla and Charybdis. Perhaps, after all, at first Russia should cease to be a monster, then Belarus would suddenly turn out to be a friendly country?

            From the article, to whom do you write them or us ???? Stop being a monster is how ?? Feed you for free? Or listen to dashing moves of Mr. Lukashenko, the world leader-bulbash was also found. The indicator is the people, the people of Belarus want to be part of the Russian Federation, and you are local kings against it, for you will lose power and are afraid to lose it and money, where did Vladimir Postnikov think you are orange?
          17. Rustic i ......
            Rustic i ...... 16 December 2018 13: 48
            0
            [quote = Vladimir Postnikov] "First, we should stop terrorizing Belarus ????? And do not rush to make decisions for the Belarusians."
            And what is terror expressed in?
            Is Belarus getting a greater volume of oil products and reselling surpluses to Ukraine so that it is possible to refuel military armored vehicles and carry out shelling of Donbass with less losses for the Armed Forces, and Russia is not happy with this? It’s time to choose which side you are standing on. Or are you trying to get sanctioned products into Russia under the guise of your own?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 14 December 2018 16: 50
          +3
          Quote: Bearded
          In the confrontation between Russia and the West of Belarus it is necessary to choose a side, otherwise they will tear it into two parts, like Ukraine. The only question is how much is Belarus incorporated? Should a referendum be held? The people will not mind unification? In what form? The Confederation, I think, will be just right.

          I agree, the time has already come .. everything too aggravated ..
        3. Stalevar79
          Stalevar79 14 December 2018 23: 26
          -3
          The only question is how much is Belarus incorporated? Should a referendum be held? The people will not mind unification? In what form? The Confederation, I think, will be just right.

          The referendum will be on the topic "Do you want to live in a country where they will remind you that no one forced you to be born, so hang on, eating 3000 wooden a month"?
      2. VIT101
        VIT101 14 December 2018 17: 55
        -9
        Quote: Egorovich
        And the faster we get together, the better.


        Best for whom? Only not for Belarus. Our "investors" rogues will quickly take over all the tidbits that Luke has not allowed to plunder until now. The current flourishing Belarus is the opposite of Russia plundered by privatizers.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 14 December 2018 19: 25
          0
          Quote: VIT101
          Quote: Egorovich
          And the faster we get together, the better.


          Best for whom? Only not for Belarus. Our "investors" rogues will quickly take over all the tidbits that Luke has not allowed to plunder until now. The current flourishing Belarus is the opposite of Russia plundered by privatizers.

          You know about investors ... it's hard to disagree with you .. But then again, this is a technical and legal point .. you can stipulate this all at the legislative level .. We are a federation ..
          1. Naive
            Naive 14 December 2018 20: 22
            -1
            Do you believe that yourself? As if it's not me naive ...
        2. viralig
          viralig 14 December 2018 21: 16
          0
          I ask you to come to our prosperous Belarus, Vladimir, in order to feel those smells and aromas of prosperity from the inside. I do not propose the capital, but I can plunge into the life of the regional center or the hinterland - I can organize it. And the fact that the oligarchs will take something in their hands - so we and our vultures have enough. Torn earlier.
          The biggest trouble is not in this but in the fact that there is no Boss as such. The old Soviet thinking remained - Everything around the collective farm everything around me - but in the end a draw. Private traders periodically pull out tidbits - as soon as they are unfavorable to the authorities or not a hairy hand from the top.
      3. Alber
        Alber 14 December 2018 21: 51
        0
        Quote: Egorovich
        And the faster we get together, the better. Long mustachioed in power, it's time to rest.

        Together, it’s good, but there is another side to the coin:
        Moneylenders Zionists who plundered and destroyed the USSR_Russia sleep and see when they get to the industry of Belarus
        Quote: Bearded
        The only question is how much is Belarus incorporated? Should a referendum be held? The people will not mind unification? In what form? The Confederation, I think, will be just right.

        Perhaps yes, I agree
      4. Adimius38
        Adimius38 15 December 2018 07: 10
        -1
        Do you want Petro Poroshenko 2 to power in Belarus ??? how narrow are you
    3. seti
      seti 14 December 2018 15: 58
      +29
      Yes, he understands everything, but just now he blurted out openly. This only once again suggests that since we are different countries, then the tobacco should be different. Why are we still selling gas / oil and much more at crazy discounts? There is no union state and never was. Lukashenko himself does not want him. What nafig discounts!
      Belarus may collapse say? Yes, it is a pity. But you need to think wider and take care of the Russian citizen. We will not heat all our neighbors at our own expense - there is no longer communism.
      1. atos_kin
        atos_kin 14 December 2018 16: 11
        -11
        Quote: seti
        need to think wider and take care of the Russian citizen

        It is you who are addressing GDP, otherwise he suggests not hoping for a state. He understands that he is not wearing a hat.
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 14 December 2018 16: 28
        -6
        His words are twisted. Use the official source of Belarus.
        1. seti
          seti 14 December 2018 18: 16
          +7
          Quote: igorbrsv
          His words are twisted. Use the official source of Belarus.

          Look for the words of the Old Man on YouTube for a communal apartment. There he makes clear that no Union State will and cannot be. But our politicians as well as GDP can be understood. We do not need another Banderstan with a Belarusian bias. Because while they supplied what they could at bargain prices. But when Old Man became completely insolent and began to fill with fuel and other good, including the military country 4о4, then patience ran out. And do not procrastinate that we are all the same. All are different - someone has a conscience and someone has a transparent one.
      3. Svarog
        Svarog 14 December 2018 16: 57
        +3
        Quote: seti
        This only once again suggests that since we are different countries, then the tobacco should be different.

        We are not different! We are the same, that Ukraine, that Belarus .. There is no need to propagandize the difference here that is not clear .. The whole difference is among the "elite" of these countries .. They use public opinion as they want, for the sake of their interests .. In Ukraine there is money interest .. Father has power and pride ..
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 December 2018 18: 38
        -5
        But you need to think wider and take care of the Russian citizen
        Can I take a closer look at caring for Russian citizens?
        1. Adimius38
          Adimius38 15 December 2018 11: 47
          +1
          takes care of Russian citizens more, it’s like, even to raise prices to lower the standard of living below the baseboard
      5. Naive
        Naive 14 December 2018 20: 23
        -2
        What a pity, I'm talking about communism.
      6. Adimius38
        Adimius38 15 December 2018 11: 45
        0
        and who do you heat at all ??? you and your neighbors are no longer at least friendly. ONE Belarus then remained. You also heat the Germans, and heat the Greeks and Chinese all, but only most of them are NATO. Which is a stone's throw from the Russian border
      7. Adimius38
        Adimius38 15 December 2018 11: 50
        +1
        it can be seen how widely you care about the Russian citizen, general poverty and poverty, dying regions, anti-people’s laws, unreasonable increase in tariffs for housing services and so on. Pension reform about which they did not even ask the people whether it is needed or not, and there were millions of signatures against it. In the Country, a working person is poor, here is your concern
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 14 December 2018 16: 03
      +12
      He thinks a lot about himself. The fragmented Russian people tend to unite as mercury balls together. Liberalism and the specific principalities are alien to him.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 14 December 2018 16: 06
        +13
        People we are of the same blood and we have common ancestors. And the country should be one for all.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 14 December 2018 20: 25
          +5
          Good evening Dmitry! If you remember my comments, then I wrote about Belarus in 2019. And some from Belarus still aggro. In July 2019, Lukashenko will announce an extraordinary election.
        2. Naive
          Naive 14 December 2018 20: 33
          0
          This is the right thought. Just how? Either we do not dance like that, then parasites, then Polish litter. Do you all think that all the years we just ate from your plate without charge? They didn’t give you, but please? Rave.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 15 December 2018 14: 11
            0
            Quote: Naive
            Do you all think that all the years we just ate from your plate without charge?

            very curious, but what paid?
            We think that it’s not only free, but we (the state) also contain you!
            1. Naive
              Naive 15 December 2018 20: 52
              -1
              We have a lot of things in the country that belong to your "rotenbergammileramschins" and it is somehow unclear what else is ours and what is no longer ours ... People say that after the change of the leader we will be provided with mortgages for the whole country and yours will have half, and the second China with the Arabs. Thank you for the "dad". Thanks to him and you, we have a hundred percent dependence on you.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 15 December 2018 22: 36
                +1
                Quote: Naive

                We have a lot of things in the country that belong to your "rotenbergammileramschins" and it is somehow unclear what else is ours and what is no longer ours ... People say that after the change of the leader we will be provided with mortgages for the whole country and yours will have half, and the second China with the Arabs. Thank you for the "dad". Thanks to him and you, we have a hundred percent dependence on you.

                yes it’s always - someone has money, someone doesn’t have it, it is being. there are many nuances why your country has a dependency and most likely will always have, geographical, economic, etc. situation - already tired of pointing out what lies on the surface - there is nothing in the country, more or less worth making money on, therefore it is a dependent country (nothing personal)! everywhere and for everything there are owners, without this in any way.
                1. Naive
                  Naive 16 December 2018 09: 09
                  0
                  As for the fact that there is always a master for everything, I agree with you. The answer was that everything that your "businessmen" have was a bargaining chip for your "free" help, it is also natural that if you count the net money, the account will not be in our favor! But on your side there was also Russia (the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the DR.), Which also had and have their own interests and benefits. Then not everything is so obvious ... As for dependence, I disagree a little, then that we will be completely independent, this is nonsense that does not happen. But what he did is even more delusional. All his independence, he put eggs in one basket and now he complains that they want to take it away from him. And in the country there is more precisely there was a lot of things on what in the world whole countries live exactly live! and not how we survive. But we have practically no more of this, and most importantly there is no time to change something! We have such a joke (more precisely, a statement of fact) in the east, the Arab spring, in Georgia the revolution of roses, in Ukraine the Maidan and only the Belarusians have their own way, they quietly leave the country ...
    5. Halado Romane
      Halado Romane 14 December 2018 16: 03
      +20
      And then Ostap suffered! No absorb it is not right. It is right that Russia is tired of keeping Belarus for free! Heard they say that whoever dines for the girl dances her and dances? And here he dines a lot and is expensive and does not dance at all! Well, not the same order, men ?!
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 December 2018 16: 17
      +11
      Quote: Sergey39
      They’ve been hinting to him for 20 years, but it’s only now.

      He understood all this from the first minutes of rapprochement with the Russian Federation. Only he really wants to sit on his throne, which will not work at all in Russia. Moreover, he is still thinking about his children and grandchildren. He will leave, in his place some Lukashenko Jr. will come.
      1. Black sniper
        Black sniper 14 December 2018 16: 42
        +2
        At the same time, some in Moscow say directly - we are ready for Belarus to become part of Russia in six regions. But this will not happen, he added, for Belarus sovereignty is "sacred."
        --------------------------------
        In how ... but what about the joint project "Russobelia", which was pushed on both sides?
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 14 December 2018 16: 48
          +14
          Quote: Black Sniper
          In how ... but what about the joint project "Russobelia", which was pushed on both sides?

          I have long said that our foreign policy with regard to the near abroad is FAILURE. This has been proven by 30 for years already. If you look carefully, we stupidly failed ... we lost the territory of our political and economic interests and continue to lose. Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states, etc.
          What else should happen for the Kremlin to see and begin to do at least something intelligible in the matter of politics in the CIS?
          It is regrettable that we must admit that we lose the war for the border territories with a bang. And while there are no changes in this.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 14 December 2018 16: 59
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            I have long said that our foreign policy with regard to the near abroad is FAILURE.

            Although I have not heard that you have said so for a long time .. but I completely agree with you ..
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 14 December 2018 17: 00
              +3
              Quote: Svarog
              Although I have not heard that you have said so for a long time.

              He spoke for a long time and often. hi The point is not even in agreement with me personally, but in the fact that what I said is FACT.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 14 December 2018 17: 30
                +4
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: Svarog
                Although I have not heard that you have said so for a long time.

                He spoke for a long time and often. hi The point is not even in agreement with me personally, but in the fact that what I said is FACT.

                I agree! A policy on neighboring countries should be a priority, but it is a failure ..
                1. The Siberian barber
                  The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 18: 15
                  +3
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Although I have not heard that you have said so for a long time.

                  He spoke for a long time and often. hi The point is not even in agreement with me personally, but in the fact that what I said is FACT.

                  I agree! A policy on neighboring countries should be a priority, but it is a failure ..

                  She is not a failure; her, simply, no! At least with a clear strategy !!!
                  As, indeed, everywhere, alas ..
                  1. prosto_rgb
                    prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 20: 26
                    +3
                    Quote: The Siberian Barber
                    She is not a failure; her, simply, no!

                    Well, why not?
                    There is! Simple and straightforward:
                    1. The Siberian barber
                      The Siberian barber 15 December 2018 21: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: prosto_rgb
                      Quote: The Siberian Barber
                      She is not a failure; her, simply, no!

                      Well, why not?
                      There is! Simple and straightforward:

                      I don’t remember the case of being turned off)) although some need a long time!)
                      1. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 23: 38
                        +2
                        Quote: The Siberian Barber
                        I don’t remember the case of being turned off)) although some need a long time!)

                        Well why?
                        On June 22, 1941 , at 2010 am, without a declaration of war, Nazi Germany and its allies attacked the Soviet Union Dmitry Anatolyevich cut off the supply of gas to the Republic of Belarus.
                        Alexander Grigoryevich had to turn to Heydar Aliyev for help.
                        So it goes.
                        Alas, such a policy brings little positive results to the Russian Federation, but there, probably, it is better to see what to do up there.
                      2. The Siberian barber
                        The Siberian barber 15 December 2018 23: 52
                        +1
                        Well, LADIES, he was always distinguished by his "intelligence and ingenuity" !! laughing
                        His policy, certainly positive, brought a little!))
                        Thanks, by the way, for reminding me about this episode! hi
                        "The old became - completely the memory has become" (c) laughing
                      3. prosto_rgb
                        prosto_rgb 16 December 2018 00: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: The Siberian Barber
                        Well, LADIES, he was always distinguished by his "intelligence and ingenuity" !!

                        Here, as it were.
                        But in general ....
                        I have no particular negative attitude towards his decisions, oddly enough.
                        After all, it was thanks to him (the sale of Iskander missiles to the Republic of Bashkortostan and other military-technical cooperation) that Alexander Grigorievich decided to make the Polonaise MLRS and at the same time an analogue of the RPG-32.
                        But Vladimir Vladimirovich in this regard is a much more competent politician. Not afraid to sell air defense systems in Belarus.
                        Here is the recent news confirmation of this:
                        Belarusian anti-aircraft gunners received the fifth batch of Tor-M2 air defense systems
                        https://topwar.ru/150436-belorusskie-zenitchiki-poluchili-pjatuju-partiju-zrk-tor-m2.html
              2. Naive
                Naive 14 December 2018 20: 35
                -1
                And a very sad fact.
      2. Halado Romane
        Halado Romane 14 December 2018 16: 42
        +2
        I think both his children and grandchildren will be in such an order that we cannot even dream of this order. But with the throne, this is of course all in a fog ... And continuing on about the girl speaker who rests in the restaurant at your expense, I will continue regularly and absolutely obliged to you. For a long time, this windy beauty at foreign gentlemen at other tables peeks. Winks. Eyes builds. And you started to be rude to you! What are your actions guys? Will we really endure?
    7. Vend
      Vend 14 December 2018 16: 48
      +1
      They didn’t give the dad a discount on gas, so he sold laughing
    8. XXXIII
      XXXIII 14 December 2018 17: 26
      -2
      “If, as is often customary in Russia, we proceed from the assumption that“ we are so huge, and you are smaller, so this is how it will be, ”then there is nothing to agree on, this is not a union,” the Belarusian leader added.

      The essence of the matter does not change, Belarus pulls out from part because of the kindness of the Russian Federation to the Republic of Belarus, but this is not a handout, as I often distort, it is allied assistance. It will turn out to take Belarus with or without a "dad", the question is who will head the province there, our governors, who take goods out of the Russian Federation, but the government is asleep and the FSB, etc. Let him say that this does not interfere with business, while we still do not see ourselves as different. But I like the other option better, to take Alexander to the government of the Russian Federation in the main place, then there will be a sense ... the cleanup will be in full, the USSR will sprout ... smile
      1. Naive
        Naive 14 December 2018 20: 39
        -3
        Only this sprout you really will not like
    9. StudentVK
      StudentVK 14 December 2018 17: 37
      +3
      Vot such demons are sitting in the Old Man) Here is Minsk crucian, I thought I could eat a fish and fill it up on my head. Belarus has nowhere to go except us.
    10. Defender
      Defender 14 December 2018 23: 18
      +2
      ha ha ha! can a "penny" state be independent from anyone?
    11. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 15 December 2018 16: 44
      +2
      Incorporation is not bad. costs are lower, another question is on what conditions, one’s fears can be understood: industry will be sawed, roles will be deprived.
    12. Petrograd
      Petrograd 15 December 2018 23: 37
      0
      There is an example on / in Ukraine, already Suvorov (monument) will be demolished, and Orthodoxy is destroyed, apparently it is good to be a dictator of a small potato state, always asking for cookies (first of all for himself, i.e. Lukashenka) and if not enough you can be capricious, stomp your feet, cry, lift your snotty nose and shout "the hob was not dead Russian."
  2. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 15: 44
    +26
    Weapons in brotherly Belarus /// read, the Western Military District comes at the prices of Russian factories, read for nothing. We do a gas discount, but we are strangers. Brothers, so your Old Man plays with such reverence on the side of Russia's enemies. I didn’t recognize such a European dictator. Russia cannot create unity because of such partailers as comrade Lukashenko.
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 15: 50
      -10
      Those. according to your understanding, the west of the Russian Federation should be covered at global prices ???))))
      You will decide what is more important: the covered Smolensk, or "retrobonus", for managers, from Oboronexport)))
      1. seti
        seti 14 December 2018 16: 00
        +20
        Are you not afraid that when it comes to shooting, the brave Lukashenko will declare that his hut is on the edge and in general he was neutral? Well, weapons ... and what weapons?
        1. Henderson
          Henderson 14 December 2018 17: 17
          -7
          Quote: seti

          And you are not afraid that when it comes to shooting

          So do not bring to the shooting. Shooting means the failure of foreign and domestic policy. What is the interest of Belarusians to die for Putin’s Wishlist?
          1. seti
            seti 14 December 2018 18: 09
            +14
            Quote: Henderson
            So do not bring to the shooting. Shooting means the failure of foreign and domestic policy.


            Alas, it does not always depend on us. Rather, it is almost always not from us. Remember 41 year. There was an arrangement. And in 91 year too.
            Quote: Henderson
            What is the interest of Belarusians to die for Putin’s Wishlist?


            And what interest do we have to supply Belarus with our irreplaceable blood resources? For a penny. It is not the RF that profits on you, but your leaders. And we have our regions hungry. And those that are not hungry also want life to the fullest. They are citizens of this country and they should be taken care of and not about Belarusians, they are not citizens of the Russian Federation. Is not it ? Moreover, Belarus, represented by its head, is pursuing an openly unfriendly policy. He seems to be with us while it is profitable. But only the flow dries up already with our "partners". And we have a communal apartment, but we are separate. Where am I wrong?
            It's time to understand that you can’t sit around wolves. Or on your way downhill as a country 4o4 or into a friendly family and in equal rights. With all the common prices and benefits.
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 14 December 2018 20: 58
              +3
              Quote: seti
              He seems to be with us so far.

              So it is, and this bastard does not hide yet ..... smile
            2. Henderson
              Henderson 14 December 2018 22: 40
              -3
              Quote: seti
              or in a friendly family and in equal rights

              if this family were friendly.
        2. albert
          albert 14 December 2018 21: 51
          +1
          Quote: seti
          when it comes to shooting, the brave Lukashenko will say that his hut is on the edge and in general he is neutral?

          Well, if so, but what if it also starts to play Petka Valtsman-Poroshenko?
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 16: 08
        +3
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Those. according to your understanding, the west of the Russian Federation should be covered at global prices ???))))
        You will decide what is more important: the covered Smolensk, or "retrobonus", for managers, from Oboronexport)))

        what other bonus if we drive the military commissar to brothers /// true brothers, forever /// Belarusians at home prices for our Red Army? I’ve already decided, for me, the Russian impulse of the Belarusian SN brigade is more important than the rhetoric of politicians.
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 16: 21
          -2
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          Those. according to your understanding, the west of the Russian Federation should be covered at global prices ???))))
          You will decide what is more important: the covered Smolensk, or "retrobonus", for managers, from Oboronexport)))

          what other bonus if we drive the military commissar to brothers /// true brothers, forever /// Belarusians at home prices for our Red Army? I’ve already decided, for me, the Russian impulse of the Belarusian SN brigade is more important than the rhetoric of politicians.

          I misunderstood your previous post hi
          I mean that "someone, someone wants to squeeze something out," no more
          Old Man, played a lot, but ours, no less! Well, the "graters" with the LADY ... Well, you understand)))
      3. vitvit123
        vitvit123 14 December 2018 17: 51
        +3
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Those. according to your mind

        And do you tolerate meanness and arrogance, Russophobia?
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 18: 20
          -1
          Quote: vitvit123
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          Those. according to your mind

          And do you tolerate meanness and arrogance, Russophobia?

          What Russophobia in Belarus, dear !!! ????
          You, at least once, for the sake of interest, visit there !!!! Then we'll talk. Shout slogans on the "Internet", based on stuffing .... Well, your business))))
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 14 December 2018 18: 57
            +5
            Quote: The Siberian Barber
            What Russophobia in Belarus, dear !!! ????
            You, at least once, for the sake of interest, visit there !!!! Then we'll talk. Shout slogans on the "Internet", based on stuffing .... Well, your business))))

            I have a mother-in-law of Belarus - Dear ... Already 15 years (min) - the wife can tell more precisely. Belarus - for mother-in-law - that's all! Although he has been living here for about 40 years. Father-in-law can tell you a lot about them! A neighbor - Belarus - Russia gave her everything - an apartment, a good pension and a good life - for her, Russia is hell, and Belarus is a paradise. You go to western Belarus and praise Russia there ....
            1. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 20: 21
              +1
              Duc, in Brest, and Grodno, I am)))
              Personally / you, there were ????
              I have a wife and mother-in-law Belarusian, too, but I do not observe phobias)))
              And yes: meanness, arrogance)))
              I meet this, more often, among Muscovites, for example))
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 14 December 2018 21: 57
                0
                Quote: The Siberian Barber

                Duc, in Brest, and Grodno, I am)))
                Personally / you, there were ????
                I have a wife and mother-in-law Belarusian, too, but I do not observe phobias)))
                And yes: meanness, arrogance)))
                I meet this, more often, among Muscovites, for example))

                Well, mother-in-law phobias, thank God I didn’t observe, I had a little different in her mind and in my comment I don’t write about this. Well, I already wrote (below) to understand each other it is necessary to communicate live - my opinion, therefore I write a little here. I’ll even write to you that I wasn’t in western Belarus (by the way, one question mark is well typed), I hope this will satisfy you as an opponent, but, as an example (more radical), I did not go to western Ukraine either, but for some reason formed. Something like this ...
                As an example, Muscovites are a well-worn path, I heard a lot about it. I myself live in Ryazan, talked with them, a lot - a little, adequate, kind of like I didn’t think about working with them, I often heard about the stereotype of Muscovites - in the army, etc., but I don’t remember myself, in Ryazan I can name, but I don’t remember anymore. Maybe you're out of luck, you have met such people - it happens.
                Shortly. The meanness of impudence is that they live and exist (as a state) at the expense of Russia and do not understand. Nationalism, Russophobia would be exactly the same as in Ukraine, but there are nuances ...
                about nothing ...
                My wife, by the way, is not really a state. education ... so to each his own. Why write anything at all, if the sense is zero? Often a question arises, but only at the end of reflection. Down below, people very clearly described my opinion. By the way, next summer, my mother-in-law asks to be taken away, we’ll probably go, but she is not far from our east.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 December 2018 18: 43
          -3
          Russophobia?
          do not confuse Russophobia or fear of the Rottenbergs, Chubais, Shuvalovs. Well, the main thing, who will wrap around and say please treat with understanding.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 14 December 2018 19: 11
            +2
            Quote: Gardamir
            do not confuse Russophobia or fear of the Rottenbergs, Chubais, Shuvalovs. Well, the main thing, who will wrap around and say please treat with understanding.

            Such have always been and will be. These are silly slogans, there are enough Rottenbergs, Chubais, Shuvalovs there too - maybe in the person of one family, and ter. - education is small.
          2. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 20: 28
            +3
            Duc, and they are afraid of "Muscovites", that's why))
            "Moscow business", in our regions, is not "very fond of", to put it mildly, then what to say about Bulbasha))
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 14 December 2018 21: 27
              0
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              Duc, and they are afraid of "Muscovites", that's why))
              "Moscow business", in our regions, is not "very fond of", to put it mildly, then what to say about Bulbasha))

              Well this is a little silly. This is our essence, not to get away from it. We ourselves are enemies, but from the outside there will always be one or the other, and we all (many) ourselves strive to be like them, therefore such a type of people will always exist. It is difficult to disclose thoughts of writing here for a long time.
              1. The Siberian barber
                The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 22: 08
                +2
                Why is it stupid?
                The simplest example: an object is being built with federal money, essno, a general contractor in Moscow .. I will not paint about relations with subcontractors on the ground, because everyone understands everything .. A very common topic, at least in my region
                1. Petrograd
                  Petrograd 16 December 2018 00: 11
                  0
                  Quote: The Siberian Barber
                  Why is it stupid?
                  The simplest example: an object is being built with federal money, essno, a general contractor in Moscow .. I will not paint about relations with subcontractors on the ground, because everyone understands everything .. A very common topic, at least in my region

                  So is this a region or a new canada of the eastern hemisphere))))?
          3. vitvit123
            vitvit123 15 December 2018 22: 47
            +1
            Quote: Gardamir
            do not confuse Russophobia or fear of the Rottenbergs, Chubais, Shuvalovs. Well, the main thing, who will wrap around and say please treat with understanding.

            Th everyone is attached to surnames - this being has always been, is and will be. you need to think about something else. well these are my thoughts ...
      4. Petrograd
        Petrograd 16 December 2018 00: 09
        +1
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Those. according to your understanding, the west of the Russian Federation should be covered at global prices ???))))
        You will decide what is more important: the covered Smolensk, or "retrobonus", for managers, from Oboronexport)))

        Watch the film "Come and See" and then blurt out about the strategy, we will cover Smolensk ourselves, don't worry.
    2. seti
      seti 14 December 2018 15: 59
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Weapons in brotherly Belarus /// read, the Western Military District comes at the prices of Russian factories, read for nothing. We do a gas discount, but we are strangers. Brothers, so your Old Man plays with such reverence on the side of Russia's enemies. I didn’t recognize such a European dictator. Russia cannot create unity because of such partailers as comrade Lukashenko.

      I totally agree.
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 16: 09
        -6
        Well, then, we're waiting for a variation on the theme "Maidan2.0,3.0 ..." and so on ..
        Personally, to you, what is the profit from the fact that Minsk will ship gas and oil at global prices, like weapons (see the post of the colleague above) ???
        This is "zilch", for the state, but not zilch, for the oil industry, which is in private hands)))
        An article, from the row: "someone wants something to bite off"
        In the domestic market, by the way, there is also a trend towards pulling up to global prices))) too, "hurray" ???
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 14 December 2018 17: 57
          +8
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          This is "zilch", for the state, but not zilch, for the oil industry, which is in private hands)))

          This oil industry pays taxes to the treasury. I, you know, remember how suddenly the budget was filled up at constant energy prices, when one oligarch went to sew gauntlets - and suddenly it turned out that the oil industry and gas workers did have a profit (before that they declared near-zero income).
          1. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 18: 12
            -5
            Partly yes! But the volumes are slightly different. And, for me, the efficiency of spending! This is the "cornerstone"! We have a "vacuum cleaner", which, no matter how much you throw in, is not enough, because there are always plenty of interested parties. Then, we blame: either on the world market situation, then on investments, etc.
            What RB is asking is not so much as trying to create public opinion, "interested" persons
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 16: 25
        +3
        Quote: seti
        I totally agree.

        I agree completely
    3. atos_kin
      atos_kin 14 December 2018 16: 06
      -2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Russia can’t create unity because of such paratroopers as comrade Lukashenko.

      Because because of such KGB, the USSR was ruined, and the turn of the Russian Federation. It’s better to let Belarus continue.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 16: 23
        +3
        Quote: atos_kin
        Because because of such KGB, the USSR was ruined, and the turn of the Russian Federation. It’s better to let Belarus continue.

        The trick is that the USSR could comfortably live, they decided to pinch the geo-political parallels and pinched that each uterus at the exit without a nipple, a karasupp
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 16: 34
          +2
          atos_kin (Vissarionych) I would be glad to merge in a single alliance, But you understand us to other things, a purely sports bowl, Pobelda, forward forward, special forces, and capraccupa, this is also an alarm button --- a command of the Dzhulbars-border rifle!
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 17: 12
        +1
        atos_kin, dear, I’d be glad to endure the dominance of the party’s partners, but the fact is that new times present completely different criteria .... Forevaa ...
      3. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 14 December 2018 17: 37
        +16
        Do you naively believe that if the Russian Federation collapses, then the Republic of Belarus will remain?) Yes, you will be "democratized" even faster than the Russian Federation collapses)))
        Democratize, fall in love and dry ... then just wash the toilet in Poland, and collect strawberries .... at best.
        The world has long been divided and there is no place for you or us. Here is the bitter truth.
        1. albert
          albert 14 December 2018 21: 54
          +2
          It is true that the Belarusians have forgotten about Rzecz Pospolita, from “Mozha to Mozha”.
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    5. Win1945
      Win1945 14 December 2018 16: 30
      -15
      Are you annoyed that Lukashenko is dancing to his tune and not to the tune of Russia? I visited the Russian Crimea as there was a mess with the Ukrainians so mess now. Will Belarus become part of the Russian Federation, and then what? Paradise will come just like in the Russian Federation? No thanks. Feed your oligarchs yourself.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 16: 46
        +9
        Quote: WIn1945
        Are you annoyed that Lukashenko is dancing to his tune and not to the tune of Russia?

        Yes.
        Quote: WIn1945
        I visited the Russian Crimea as there was a mess with the Ukrainians so mess and now

        These are the problems of the Russian Federation.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 14 December 2018 17: 21
          +4
          Quote: WIn1945
          Are you annoyed that Lukashenko is dancing to his tune and not to the tune of Russia? I visited the Russian Crimea as there was a mess with the Ukrainians so mess now. Will Belarus become part of the Russian Federation, and then what? Paradise will come just like in the Russian Federation? No thanks. Feed your oligarchs yourself.

          I understood you very well .... But you know, in the years of the turnaround, I was in the Crimea --- Simveroprol station, marching companies of Ukraine's morsel went from places in the Crimea. Well, and in the buffet we quickly made contact with the colonel Coast defense. We hobbled and marveled at the chevrons, and agreed that since they taught us how to get up a hedgehog in front of NATO, that’s how they are. That was 1 year ago, now you can see the change of commanders has changed and the technique. But it’s a pity, I’m halfway back he understood the Ukrainian marines when he poured information on a tablet to me. willow ,, brought him to the beach. Full interaction. And the Ukrainian men did not shame, immediately the first wave, under the cover of the Black Sea Fleet, strengthened on their segment of the beach. I say so because I’ll soon leave this idiocy when the Ukrainian MP is considered unfinished. I’m just shocked the flow of soldiers with the chevrons of the Ukrainian army, when the Soviet MP existed.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 December 2018 17: 51
        +9
        Quote: WIn1945
        Are you annoyed that Lukashenko is dancing to his tune and not to the tune of Russia?

        For our money, yes.
        Quote: WIn1945
        Will Belarus become part of the Russian Federation, and then what? Paradise will come just like in the Russian Federation? No thanks. Feed your oligarchs yourself.

        No problem. Just do not forget that sovereign state - sovereign prices.
      3. vitvit123
        vitvit123 14 December 2018 17: 54
        +4
        Quote: WIn1945
        Are you annoyed that Lukashenko is dancing to his tune and not to the tune of Russia? I visited the Russian Crimea as there was a mess with the Ukrainians so mess now. Will Belarus become part of the Russian Federation, and then what? Paradise will come just like in the Russian Federation? No thanks. Feed your oligarchs yourself.

        For the time being, Belarus has to be fed, if it hadn’t been fed, there would have been no Belarus. Everyone feeds from Russia.
    6. the finish
      the finish 14 December 2018 22: 27
      0
      Nothing. Soon, reports will also be made on armaments to foreign ambassadors. The news has already been.
  3. mkop
    mkop 14 December 2018 15: 45
    0
    Infected ... Heal soon - do not run.
  4. antivirus
    antivirus 14 December 2018 15: 48
    +4
    There is an LNG terminal in Poland (nearby) - it smells better, brother and brothers.

    drank together in the evening, and to hang out alone in the morning - ON OWN.
    or at the expense of the owner.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 December 2018 17: 47
      +5
      Quote: antivirus
      There is an LNG terminal in Poland (nearby) - it smells better, brother and brothers.

      In Lithuania, too. Lithuanians are just thinking - what to do with LNG, which they bought from the Norwegians on the "take or pay" principle and which no one else wants to take (because it is expensive).
  5. Invoce
    Invoce 14 December 2018 15: 52
    0
    https://topwar.ru/151145-batka-ne-gazuj-kak-ne-ssorilis-aleksandr-grigorevich-i-vladimir-vladimirovich.html
    Old Man, do not Gaza! How Alexander Grigorievich and Vladimir Vladimirovich did not quarrel
    https://topwar.ru/151044-kto-upravljaet-belorussiej.html
    Who governs Belarus?
    I agree with the authors that Lukashenko is a vice chairman. A sign, a talking doll ...
  6. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 14 December 2018 15: 54
    +8
    If they entered on the rights of autonomy, Belarusians themselves are unlikely to develop alone for a long time, and the Old Man is not eternal. Either Russia will absorb, or the West, but from the second option it will only be worse for everyone ... therefore a matter of time
  7. kventinasd
    kventinasd 14 December 2018 15: 54
    +11
    But this will not happen, he added, for Belarus sovereignty is "sacred."

    Well, let him then take loans from the IMF, but he doesn’t stutter about equality yet, otherwise he wanted gas at Smolensk prices.
  8. vvp2412
    vvp2412 14 December 2018 15: 54
    +15
    for Belarus, sovereignty is "sacred."

    Then pay for energy like sovereign states!
    And then Old Man wants to get free gas, oil and be so independent!
  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 December 2018 15: 55
    +9
    But this will not happen, he added, for Belarus sovereignty is "sacred."

    What did you earlier, Alexander Grigoryevich, not mumble and calve? Or did you think that integration is like just going to a neighbor to satisfy your needs? No, dad! Need to get married ... lol
  10. K-50
    K-50 14 December 2018 15: 59
    +8
    Lukashenko does not want to understand the campaign that without Russia and deep integration into it, Belarus cannot survive, at least in this form. And for sure. An example of Yanukovych.
    Therefore, the resistance to its preservation of independence from the West causes, to put it mildly, bewilderment.
  11. Spine
    Spine 14 December 2018 16: 10
    +3
    Old Man became nervous, but what to do? We need to unite, anyway, this will happen sooner or later ..
  12. taiga2018
    taiga2018 14 December 2018 16: 10
    +6
    apparently senile dementia sets in, he thinks that somewhere besides Russia his tractors, agricultural equipment and dairy products are needed ...
  13. senima56
    senima56 14 December 2018 16: 12
    +4
    Old man, isn't this what you have been trying to achieve for the last 15-20 years? And how else can Belarus get "Russian gas prices" ?!
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  15. lot
    lot 14 December 2018 16: 16
    0
    - A good wife, a good home - what else does a person need to meet old age ?! (with)
  16. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 14 December 2018 16: 17
    +7
    He doesn’t want a big integration, he will get a little one - with organizational conclusions about the Norwegian trout in the Belarusian Sea. Such friends - by the tail. yes to the museum.
  17. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 14 December 2018 16: 23
    -1
    Rave. Do not get fooled. Here is the source
    . The President emphasized that, as history has shown, all sorts of unions that were concluded on unequal terms did not exist for a long time.

    “If, as is often customary in Russia, we proceed from the assumption that“ we are so huge, and you are smaller, so this is how it will be, ”then there is nothing to agree on, this is not a union,” the Belarusian leader added.

    Here are his words.
    1. Key 32
      Key 32 14 December 2018 16: 42
      +6
      Said "a", say "b" .. Maybe then you will give an example when it was "therefore it will be so ..". I have only one example so far - Crimea. And I don't really hear something about oppression.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 14 December 2018 17: 10
        -5
        This phrase is taken out of context by the media and recombined to sow enmity between our peoples. I showed that the media misinterpreted his words. The technology is not new. You can read the full version on the official website of Belarus. It talks about the need to continue integration with Russia. You misunderstood me
    2. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 14 December 2018 17: 53
      +4
      I wonder what he wants? What conditions should there be for unification? 50x50 budget? But this is unrealistic. In Belarus 10 million, in the Russian Federation 140. He offers to make a new "showcase for the West" or what? Sorry, but the proportion cannot be higher than 14k 1 in any way, otherwise we will not pull another Moscow. Sorry
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 14 December 2018 17: 55
        -2
        I was interested in the interpretation of words. The rest is not in my competence
    3. Petrograd
      Petrograd 17 December 2018 00: 04
      0
      Quote: igorbrsv
      Rave. Do not get fooled. Here is the source
      . The President emphasized that, as history has shown, all sorts of unions that were concluded on unequal terms did not exist for a long time.

      “If, as is often customary in Russia, we proceed from the assumption that“ we are so huge, and you are smaller, so this is how it will be, ”then there is nothing to agree on, this is not a union,” the Belarusian leader added.

      Here are his words.

      So we (the Russian Federation) don’t even demand a union, we’re talking about something else, if the Republic of Belarus is an independent and self-sufficient Mr., hold on to this, pay for everything (just don’t offer potatoes) at general world prices, you’ll whack everything, and ask for discounts and soft conditions, do not guys eat your independence.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 17 December 2018 07: 43
        +1
        They are devouring this independence. Lukashenka spoke about pressure on him from individuals. He did not change the general course. And he intends to build further relations with the Russian Federation. I am outraged by the way the media misrepresent words. Reprint by the way from the Ukrainian site. Not journalists but rabble. They are engaged in reprinting news without bothering to verify their reliability. Fake news is a suitable phrase. False news sounds softer in my opinion. You yourself would go to their website and read. No "damaged phone". Read the news - check
  18. Idunavs
    Idunavs 14 December 2018 16: 24
    +2
    I have been saying for a long time that the daddy "radish" is still the same, and Belarus leads anywhere, but not to Russia. Even today he blurted out: "I told Putin: we will soon pray to God that NATO will be there, and not these scumbags, nationalists." , - said Lukashenko ....
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  20. HAM
    HAM 14 December 2018 16: 37
    +2
    This is not father, this is Grandfather Sashka!
    Something he after a conversation with Vladimir Vladimirovich began to fuss: he apologizes, now hesitates, now he openly cried ....
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 14 December 2018 17: 14
      -6
      You shouldn’t be so. Use reliable sources. This article with words taken out of context. I hope the goal is clear. Disconnect
  21. Gerklim
    Gerklim 14 December 2018 16: 41
    +7
    What does he want? Oil without duties, let’s gas, as in Russia, buy Belarusian shrimp, no border needed. Need freebie independence. Well dad.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 14 December 2018 17: 58
      +6
      Quote: GerKlim
      What does he want? Oil without duties, let’s gas, as in Russia, buy Belarusian shrimp, no border needed. Need freebie independence. Well dad.

      The more you give, the more you want. Appetite comes with eating. Russia is like a cash cow for some. Few of their "milkers" still strive to pull their boobs from the outside.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 14 December 2018 18: 43
        -3
        Then see how the news is made:

        "for example, the user Pyramidon believes that the Belarusians are freeloaders:
        "the more you give, the more you want"
        I would like to ask: do Belarusians need such a fraternal people?
        Here are the words of one of the users of the Russian resource VO GerKlim:
        "Buy Belarusian shrimps, you don't need a border"
        And all this despite the negative balance of foreign trade of the Republic of Belarus.
        Are we ready to stand with them shoulder to shoulder and beyond? I will answer you no. Belarus is not a cash cow. We are capable of independent development "

        Sorry I don’t want to fantasize about this topic anymore. It's disgusting. This is how custom articles are made
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 14 December 2018 18: 51
          +4
          Quote: igorbrsv
          I would like to ask: do Belarusians need such a fraternal people?

          Here is the answer. If Russia does not give you anything for free, then it is no longer a brother.
          1. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 14 December 2018 19: 03
            -4
            Understand nothing request
            I am so Russian and Russian. I wanted to show how custom articles are written. Mine don't understand request
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 14 December 2018 19: 55
              +1
              Quote: igorbrsv
              I am so Russian and Russian.

              You already somehow decide who you are. I haven’t added anything to your post. Once again I will quote you Sami wrote.
              I want to ask if I need us Belarusians such a brotherly people?

              But this all the more does not characterize you as a Russian.
              My do not understand.
  22. Piramidon
    Piramidon 14 December 2018 16: 43
    +1
    Lukashenko Suspected Russia of Attempting to “Absorb” Belarus

    "Old Man" and Parasha drink from the same eggplant, or what?
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  23. sergo42
    sergo42 14 December 2018 16: 43
    +5
    He thought that they would feed him endlessly for a beautiful star?
  24. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 14 December 2018 16: 45
    0
    When the rating of the guarantor of the violation of the constitution becomes small, it is possible to make "our Belarus" and the rating to heaven. AHL understands this, it is not for nothing that it has contacts with gunpowder.
    1. Naive
      Naive 14 December 2018 20: 56
      -2
      Closer to the election ...
  25. JD1979
    JD1979 14 December 2018 16: 48
    +4
    But this will not happen, he added, for Belarus sovereignty is "sacred."

    The chair under his f * sing is sacred to him.
    And ordinary people have long been fed up with purely Belarusian crises every 2-3 years, although neighbors are more or less stable. Almost all the acquaintances for joining the structure, at least autonomy, at least the region.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 14 December 2018 18: 03
      +2
      Quote: JD1979
      The chair under his f * sing is sacred to him.

      He already has a "crown prince". The dynasty will continue.
    2. Naive
      Naive 14 December 2018 21: 01
      0
      People’s moods are different, after 14 years old people from the east of Belarus went to Europe and see life there. the difference with Russia is not in favor of the latter. And they have big politics to the bulb.
  26. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 16: 49
    +2
    It’s time, it’s time, it’s time for Lukashenko and Belarus to become part of Russia. And then we’re all brothers, Slavs-Russians-brothers, Belarus is separate. He wants everything at domestic prices, Belarus’s resources, separately. Kuram laughs.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 14 December 2018 18: 05
      -2
      What for? A single market, army and visa-free travel is not an option? We are already together
  27. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 16: 52
    0
    Quote: Halado romance
    And then Ostap suffered! No absorb it is not right. It is right that Russia is tired of keeping Belarus for free! Heard they say that whoever dines for the girl dances her and dances? And here he dines a lot and is expensive and does not dance at all! Well, not the same order, men ?!

    And for this, it is necessary that Belarus be a part of Russia and obey the president of Russia. Then the president of Russia will both have dinner and dance. And when Belarus is a separate state independent of Russia, then sovereign, then Belarus does not submit to Russia, does not submits to the president of Russia, then the president of Russia does not dance Belarus.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 December 2018 17: 00
      +5
      Quote: ludrossia
      And when Belarus is a separate state, independent of Russia, sovereign then Belarus does not obey Russia, does not obey the president of Russia, then the president of Russia does not dance Belarus.

      That's just, according to Belarus, if Russia does not dance Belarus, then Russia should still pay Belarus.
      And why do we need a girl who takes money, and then turns on the dynamo?
      1. Naive
        Naive 14 December 2018 21: 04
        0
        And so that she and John do not dance
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 16 December 2018 09: 06
          0
          Quote: Naive

          And so that she and John do not dance

          one is dancing, the other is dancing. After dancing, they just don’t let go, do not forget, they also use it there.
          1. Naive
            Naive 16 December 2018 09: 12
            0
            And yours will simply lead to the gate?
            1. Naive
              Naive 16 December 2018 09: 15
              0
              I meant after dancing. Your decency is also no longer believed.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 16 December 2018 16: 48
                0
                Quote: Naive
                I meant after dancing. Your decency is also no longer believed.

                Well, what decency .... yours - ours, what does ordinary people change? lived in the USSR, then Belarus, if suddenly Russia, which for ordinary people will change. frankly state. education is dependent, (nothing personal). to be honest - it’s not a hunt to write about the obvious. thank you.
                1. Naive
                  Naive 16 December 2018 17: 10
                  0
                  Ordinary people will change very much and not for the better. Officials, this will open up great prospects for them. And Russia is far from the USSR. But my opinion is that there will be a union, only this will not please anyone, neither us, nor you, and even more so the "world community"
                  1. vitvit123
                    vitvit123 16 December 2018 17: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Naive

                    Ordinary people will change very much and not for the better. Officials, this will open up great prospects for them. And Russia is far from the USSR. But my opinion is that there will be a union, only this will not please anyone, neither us, nor you, and even more so the "world community"

                    Ukrainians are also under the international community - even reluctant to comment on this. But on a more specific basis, about ordinary people? Damn how much I talked with Belarusians - guest workers - well, after all, nothing is behind my soul - it's about the country. Anyway, he lives at our expense.
                    1. Naive
                      Naive 16 December 2018 17: 40
                      0
                      There is less corruption in all spheres of medicine, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, education with which all ordinary citizens deal every day. Yes, there is a lot of insanity, a scoop (not the Union), bureaucracy, but if we add to this the desire of every nit to get a "reward" for their work or not work, this will be a very strong blow for our people. There are even legends about corruption at the top, it is even what it is, but it does not concern ordinary people, only indirectly.
                      1. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 16 December 2018 19: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Naive
                        if we add to this the desire of each nit to receive a "reward" for their work or not work, it will be a very strong blow for our people.

                        This is what stupidity - in my opinion, this is generally stupidity. I don’t even understand how it can be commented on, no one gets a reward from me, it's like a blind deaf person, excuse me.
                        Quote: Naive
                        About corruption at the top, there are even legends about what it is, but it does not concern ordinary people, only indirectly.

                        Well, we don’t concern ordinary people either, about which I’m talking about ,,,
                      2. Naive
                        Naive 16 December 2018 19: 48
                        0
                        As for the blind deaf, you are right, everyone has their own concept. I judge only by what I saw and felt, in Russia, more precisely, in Moscow and the Moscow region I worked for five years, so I understand a little what changes will take place.
            2. vitvit123
              vitvit123 16 December 2018 16: 43
              0
              Quote: Naive
              And yours will simply lead to the gate?

              I already wrote, one is dancing - let the other twitch ...
              1. Naive
                Naive 16 December 2018 16: 47
                0
                Yes, do not be alarmed so, let the young lady break down for a look and what people will say
  28. FOBOSS
    FOBOSS 14 December 2018 16: 53
    +7
    The sad thing is that 80% of all our exports are focused on Russia and now either leave your market and collapse the economy (which is equivalent for you to get off the oil needle). Or integrate into Russia. Worse, it’s difficult to answer, because further development with Lukashenko is not possible (he is stagnant and without ideas), in the West we haven’t fooled anyone, as part of Russia, it’s about 20 years to humble yourself until you get off your knees and defeat all enemies. So personally, in general, I do not see any future prospects for the country. I don’t believe in Belarusian identity at all.
    1. Vlad5307
      Vlad5307 14 December 2018 17: 13
      +10
      And if we recall more recent times - the people of the BSSR lived poorly as part of the USSR? Yes, better than the average in the RSFSR. To achieve their goals, the Anglo-Saxons use their ancient tactics - "divide and rule", but they use it in relation to new conditions and finding the right people for this. Only in unity is our strength!
      1. FOBOSS
        FOBOSS 14 December 2018 18: 10
        +1
        That's right. As part of the USSR, all our enterprises worked for the union, and now Rospotrebnadzor decides to work for us or not for Russia
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 14 December 2018 18: 01
      +1
      Anyway, stand shoulder to shoulder.
      1. Naive
        Naive 14 December 2018 21: 07
        +2
        Well it is clear.
    3. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 14 December 2018 18: 05
      +2
      Well, you can follow the path "nibratyef", but now they will knock about 40 years, if not more
      1. FOBOSS
        FOBOSS 14 December 2018 21: 08
        +1
        The path of the Nibrats is generally pichal. They are so brainwashed that this example is incorrect
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 15 December 2018 23: 33
          0
          Did you hear this from anyone other than fake news? Don't you think that you are being used? And a little not a state
        2. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 15 December 2018 23: 39
          0
          I pichal you nibraty. Get dressed and go to war. I'm the same rat as you. Will you go with me?
    4. Naive
      Naive 14 December 2018 21: 06
      -1
      There are a lot of us ...
    5. Flies
      Flies 15 December 2018 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: FOBOSS
      wait until you get off your knees and defeat all enemies

      Phobos, well, my! Freebie again? Wait until we solve all the problems? Can you decide together?
  29. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 16: 54
    +3
    Quote: FOBOSS
    The sad thing is that 80% of all our exports are focused on Russia and now either leave your market and collapse the economy (which is equivalent for you to get off the oil needle). Or integrate into Russia. Worse, it’s difficult to answer, because further development with Lukashenko is not possible (he is stagnant and without ideas), in the West we haven’t fooled anyone, as part of Russia, it’s about 20 years to humble yourself until you get off your knees and defeat all enemies. So personally, in general, I do not see any future prospects for the country. I don’t believe in Belarusian identity at all.

    We need to be part of Russia. We, Belarusians, have long dreamed about this, since the collapse of the USSR about reunification.
    Without Russia, Belarus is just a corpse. For three days, they will simply smear us and turn it into ashes and ruins. And they will place NATO military bases or camps of mercenaries on our territory in Belarus. Thanks to Russia, nobody attacked us. Russia-all these years- since the collapse of the USSR, it protects us. And you blather something about the fact that Russia must win, YES THANKS TO RUSSIA-BELARUS IS ALIVE! You look at Lukashenka’s agreements on cooperation with Russia and protecting us, since the collapse of the USSR, they were signed under Yeltsin. What’s wrong ??? - Look what’s going on in Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, in NATO.
    1. Hermann
      Hermann 14 December 2018 17: 09
      0
      40% zmagarou where in the afternoon? In Belarus, we do not particularly believe in referenda.
      And few people want their sons to serve urgent a few thousand kilometers from home.
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 14 December 2018 18: 04
        +5
        Quote: Herman
        40% zmagarou where in the afternoon? In Belarus, we do not particularly believe in referenda.
        And few people want their sons to serve urgent a few thousand kilometers from home.

        And our ancestors during the Second World War thought that they were dying for an education called Belarus? It is curious ... Well then, to the sons - Belarusians only to go to slaves, to Europe and this would be an ideal option for them!
        1. Hermann
          Hermann 14 December 2018 18: 42
          0
          And here are the ancestors, if now the Belarusians are used to the fact that the son is at hand, almost every weekend at home in dismissal, and not watching the distant lands of polar bears watching.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 14 December 2018 19: 05
            0
            Quote: Herman
            And here are the ancestors, if now the Belarusians are used to the fact that the son is at hand, almost every weekend at home in dismissal, and not watching the distant lands of polar bears watching.

            Well, the result will be - the perfect option!
          2. Sewer krainiy
            Sewer krainiy 15 December 2018 14: 50
            +1
            I am a Belarusian, my family and I have been chasing polar bears for about 8 years. And you are weak, salaga !!
          3. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 16 December 2018 00: 00
            +2
            And here are the ancestors, if now the Belarusians are used to the fact that the son is at hand, almost every weekend at home in dismissal, and not watching the distant lands of polar bears watching.

            We also do not dramatize. And Syria is not our native land
        2. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 15 December 2018 23: 57
          0
          Interestingly, my grandfather sits next to yours and thinks whether he should die. What are you talking about. Call yourself what you want, yusei is our problem.
      2. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 14 December 2018 18: 07
        0
        But what, are there really such 40%?
        Or is it not so sad?
        1. Hermann
          Hermann 14 December 2018 18: 33
          -1
          Judging by the comments on the same tut.by (a popular news portal), something like this.
          1. Naive
            Naive 14 December 2018 21: 14
            0
            Oh come on, zmagarov 5 percent maximum, here are people who have seen Russia and Poland tighter a lot and they do not want in today's Russia.
      3. FOBOSS
        FOBOSS 14 December 2018 18: 48
        +2
        It is unlikely that there are 40% of them. Rather, 20. And you can serve in the territory of Belarus. The benefit of military units is enough is an organizational issue
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 15 December 2018 20: 41
          +2
          Quote: FOBOSS
          And you can serve on the territory of Belarus. The benefit of military units is enough. This is an organizational issue.

          aha
          as well as conscripts from the Crimea serve only in the Crimea :)
      4. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 15 December 2018 23: 50
        0
        Yes, you will have it tomorrow. And we are tired. Hold on brother
  30. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 14 December 2018 16: 57
    +2
    He said that this is how he understands Russian "hints": get oil, but let's destroy the country and join Russia.

    So the problem is: pay the market price for energy - and no one will force anyone to enter. smile
    1. FOBOSS
      FOBOSS 14 December 2018 21: 13
      0
      It was necessary to agree on this 20 years ago. But mind you, personally, what's the difference Belarus will pay 130 bucks or 70? You don’t feel the profit anyway. Or, as the saying goes, if my cow died, then let the neighbor die too?
  31. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 17: 02
    -4
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: ludrossia
    And when Belarus is a separate state, independent of Russia, sovereign then Belarus does not obey Russia, does not obey the president of Russia, then the president of Russia does not dance Belarus.

    That's just, according to Belarus, if Russia does not dance Belarus, then Russia should still pay Belarus.
    And why do we need a girl who takes money, and then turns on the dynamo?

    So I explain to you — to prevent this — Belarus should become part of Russia. Then it will obey Russia and obey the orders of the President of Russia. And it won’t be an independent girl. BECAUSE SOMETHING BELARUS IS INDEPENDENT AND DOES NOT SUBMIT TO YOU. And in order for Belarus to comply with the orders of Russia, obeying the president of Russia, Belarus must become part of Russia and become Russia. WHAT IS UNEXPECTED HERE ???? You CAN'T ORDER A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY that is sovereign from you and does not obey you. How old are you that you do not understand this? FUCK USSR collapsed-RUSSIA ????
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 December 2018 18: 26
      +4
      Quote: ludrossia
      So I explain to you — to prevent this — Belarus should become part of Russia. Then it will obey Russia and obey the orders of the President of Russia. And it won’t be an independent girl. BECAUSE SOMETHING BELARUS IS INDEPENDENT AND DOES NOT SUBMIT TO YOU.

      So the problem is that some completely satisfied with the current situation, when Russia pays for the sovereignty of Belarus, receiving in return, at best, nothing.
      And any attempts to change the current situation and take into account the interests of Russia in this strange fraternity too, this someone instantly announces an attempt on the sovereignty of Belarus and Russia's desire to absorb Belarus. Although Russia just wants to understand - what is it actually paying for, and is it worth paying for it at all?
  32. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 14 December 2018 17: 06
    +5
    Daddy got scared for his chair so that he did it out of fear. Here is his role in preventing the creation of a unified state-va, but at the same time wants to have gas, oil and other nishtyaki from Russia for free. The policy of the West to oppose the unification of the Slavs (which for them is a threat of their chosenness) in the head of the "father" materialized in his fear of losing power and serves to facilitate the defeat of Russia (in this case, Belarus will be swallowed without even noticing). This is how the "elites" sell their peoples and countries for the "cookies" of the "partners". fool
  33. Tukm
    Tukm 14 December 2018 17: 12
    +6
    I visited Belarus Belarus, such corruption schemes suggested that I would never have dreamed in life. I started digging a little about Belarus, what is there and how, and why the mentality of the Belarusians is a little different (as it seems to me). I’m not saying that they are not Russian, but they are cunning, it seemed that they were similar to the Jews. I came across the Pale of Settlement that seems to have been introduced under Catherine when Poland was divided, and it turned out in my opinion that, in theory, a lot of Jews lived in Belarus, and in my opinion, Belarusians adopted a lot from their Jews. I am not a nationalist, if a Jew lives well, then this is his merit, and he must strive for others, if he is Russian or American, to make him live well due to his qualities. And in this situation, if we want to live together, we need to think about how to outwit the cunning Belarusian. Or a Belarusian to outwit the Russian, but so that as a result the state would be one, and at the same time there would be such an agreement that would suit both the Russian and the Belarusian, one must think how to do it. And who will rule Belarus or Russian in this state, for me, it makes no difference, in theory if we are one people
  34. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 17: 13
    +3
    Quote: Herman
    40% zmagarou where in the afternoon? In Belarus, we do not particularly believe in referenda.
    And few people want their sons to serve urgent a few thousand kilometers from home.

    What are 40% ??? We can have 9% of them by force. In Belarus, they know that in Russia we will be fully protected. Nobody will attack us, because then it would mean attacking Russia. Our sons will not be sent to hot spots on the planet instead of the Americans for the interests of the United States. Yes, and now, no one has attacked Belarus, and us, just because we are under the protection of Russia. That's all.
  35. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 17: 20
    0
    Quote: Tukm
    but so that as a result the state would be one, and at the same time there would be such an agreement that would suit both Russian and Belarus, one must think how to do it. And who will rule Belarus or Russian in this state, for me, it makes no difference, in theory if we are one people

    A state can be one, if it is ONE. -RECONNECTION. The voluntary entry of the weak to the strong-in Russia. Because only Russia is the strongest. It will protect us all from all. Huge reserves of fresh water - Lake Baikal. And in a large, vast territory, you can grow, plant and feed as much food as you like + forests, sea-seafood, rare, medicinal plants and animals, furs, furs, wild animals + in the territory -can be built and placed-EVERYTHING is necessary: ​​military Russian bases, cities, villages, institutes, factories-YES ALL THINGS NEEDED AND REQUIRED. There is no other way.
    We are ONE PEOPLE-RUSSIAN! What language do we speak? - IN RUSSIAN! We all do not speak Belarusian, not Ukrainian, not Kazakh, not Georgian, not Azerbaijani, not Armenian, not Chechen, not Dagestan — WE ALL SAY BETWEEN YOURSELF-IN RUSSIAN! WE TOGETHER ALL-RUSSIAN LANGUAGE !!! RUSSIAN WE !!! Our country is one — Russia. Faith — Orthodox Christian. Everything, period. We were always together: Russia, the Russian Empire, the USSR.
    We and our country, specially divided, it’s easier to destroy us. Consider what the USSR was in territory, population and resources? And now, they cut off the third part from us, for sure. and we have only become weaker. And now all of us are being strangled, bombed and placed at our own military bases by us. And the last strong of us, which can still protect us, are strangled and surrounded by military bases and poison us him-to Russia. Without Russia, we all just kopeck-we are dead.
    1. Tukm
      Tukm 14 December 2018 17: 35
      +1
      Our "partners" have corroded us. Just saying that someone owes someone, I think it is wrong, with such an approach it is unlikely that it will work out to unite. There should be common approaches, and as I understand it, ours and Belarusians are working on this. But it is very difficult to just take and unite, imagine how you will be boiling in the world. But we cannot always come to an agreement between man and man, but here there are two states. How was Muscovite Rus united? Indeed, until the 14th century, Ryazan or Tver were other states. There were approaches, someone was persuaded, someone was bribed, someone was killed in order to unite, and this continued for more than a dozen years. And we will unite, not by skating as Lukashenka said. An ordinary person is only a plus, but different leaders are afraid of losing their power.
    2. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 14 December 2018 21: 48
      -3
      So, you are suggesting that I forget the `` matchynu mov '' ???
      And weakly Kadyrov fat, to which you oh, how you want to feed ???, you speak the same language ...
  36. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 14 December 2018 17: 29
    +1
    Do Belarusians need this? The union is that?
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 15 December 2018 15: 06
      +2
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      Do Belarusians need this? The union is that?

      Unification is necessary for everyone. I do not think that someone will refuse to become stronger, richer, and more protected. That's just what this new state formation will be like, what laws there will be, and how they will be implemented, this is a question that needs to be addressed together. The main obstacle will be those who use disunity for their personal purposes. They will insert sticks into the wheels, sow enmity, and provoke.
  37. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 17: 33
    +1
    Quote: Archivist Vasya
    Do Belarusians need this? The union is that?

    Are you friends with your head ??? Or don't you read the comments? Without Russia, Belarus will be captured in three days, smashed like shit and turned into ashes and ruins. Russian-speaking people will be cut out. They will put up their military bases in Belarus. They will grow fiercely hating Russophobes from the people. Those who are for Russia will simply be killed and cut out completely - they will make genocide, kill 90% of the population of Belarus. And you still ask, do we need it? And + to everything, we will have both oil and gas, then, at Russian prices. Do you still ask? Yes, it’s just our safety itself.
    You generally, blind, don’t see what is being done in Ukraine, that Lithuania, Latvia, are in NATO, that they prohibit the Russian language and citizens don’t have any rights, Russian-speaking, they can’t get a job ???? What is it, they’re just killing people, are you friends with your head? And what happened in Yugoslavia ??? - They cut out the full population. You’d better ask if the Belarusians want to live or die.
    1. Archivist Vasya
      Archivist Vasya 14 December 2018 18: 20
      0
      Unlike you, yes, and I want to hear comments from the Belarusians themselves and not from anyone else and it’s better not to, for more objectivity, there are a lot of haters ...
      Something no one captures Belarus, and they live without sanctions, because they do not openly show their position with the support of Russia. Luke is doing the right thing so far, because if he speaks openly with Russia, he won’t show up a little, and he won’t be able to stretch the country on one potato, it’s not oil. And what will Russia do to help — send a humanitarian convoy? To simplify obtaining citizenship and work in the Russian Federation? Did we protect the DPR and LPR? Judging by the reports of Vladika Sith, no.
      Gas? Ahaha, do we have gas ourselves? A gas pipeline was laid a couple of years ago near my village, how much do you think they ask for connecting gas to the site? From 200 000r if not more! And how many rural and summer residents agreed from 100 sites - 0! Thank you Gazprim for letting the gas down - eat it yourself so that you all rest there in this corporation.
      The Baltic countries have always looked to the west under the USSR, and of course you will not envy the Russians there. Just do not set the whole world as an example, remember Vietnam ... purely about Belarus.
      I am not against the accession of Belarus to the Russian Federation, only if it will be better for the Belarusians themselves from this, I think that to this day the advantages of this are very doubtful.
      1. Naive
        Naive 14 December 2018 21: 28
        +1
        Thank you for your understanding, I really want to go to Russia to that distant, beautiful, fair country and not to the current one.
      2. Win1945
        Win1945 15 December 2018 01: 18
        +3
        Talk business. I am Belarusian. Our brothers treat Russians well, no matter how. Integration is good and important. But no one wants to be part of Russia, because everyone knows how things are done in Russia and money is sawed, but people don’t reach the people (who don’t believe visit the Pskov or Tver regions there regional centers like after the bombing "Nelidovo, for example 250 km from Moscow, and it feels like an abandoned village the extreme north ") let you first figure it out with your territory and bring it to mind, and then you will call all sorts of Belarusians into your composition.
    2. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 14 December 2018 22: 17
      -2
      I don’t know why you are so preoccupied with my country, why, do you know better than me what I need? I was always worried if someone started taking care of my health !!!
      I would like to know, when was the last time you were in the Baltic states or in Ukraine, or maybe you came to us in Belarus?
      As I know,% 60-70 Russians constitute a contingent of our sanatoriums, a lot of Russians come to our dentists, and again they can fix their eyesight. And what is typical is that they come with pleasure, because for not very big money they get quality medical care.
      Why come to repair your car ???
      For spavochki, I have two nephews living in Moscow ...
      And you know what they say? -Uncle of Gene, your eye is resting, there are no black ones ...
      I was born in the USSR, I served in the USSR (training Murom, lineup Moscow, the village of Mary / Turkmenistan), but I DO NOT WANT to live with Abramovich / Chubais / Sechin !!!
      and let me in the first three days (your quote ... how shit they will smear ... ''), but believe me, I'll take a couple / three with me ...
  38. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 17: 54
    +2
    Two options, either Belarus voluntarily becomes part of Russia, the first.
    The second is Belarus being drawn into NATO and under the United States, the West. They unleash a war in Belarus, cut out the entire population and then the Russians send their troops into Belarus as saviors (God forbid miracle) to protect Belarus from aggression by the United States, NATO and the West. to us that then from this, when we will be all dead and killed, and ?????????? And Belarus is like a disabled person, broken and all on fire.
  39. vitvit123
    vitvit123 14 December 2018 17: 56
    +6
    Quote: FOBOSS
    The sad thing is that 80% of all our exports are focused on Russia and now either leave your market and collapse the economy (which is equivalent for you to get off the oil needle). Or integrate into Russia. Worse, it’s difficult to answer, because further development with Lukashenko is not possible (he is stagnant and without ideas), in the West we haven’t fooled anyone, as part of Russia, it’s about 20 years to humble yourself until you get off your knees and defeat all enemies. So personally, in general, I do not see any future prospects for the country. I don’t believe in Belarusian identity at all.

    Just a bullseye. How can you not understand this ...
  40. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 14 December 2018 18: 03
    +3
    So if their sovereignty is so holy, why are they sitting on our neck and constantly begging for loans, lowering gas prices to domestic Russia and generally behaving like an impudent kept woman? Either back to Russia, or forward, to ... Well, it's enough to stretch a point by two chairs.
  41. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 18: 06
    +2
    Quote: stock buildbat
    So if their sovereignty is so holy, why are they sitting on our neck and constantly begging for loans, lowering gas prices to domestic Russia and generally behaving like an impudent kept woman? Either back to Russia, or forward, to ... Well, it's enough to stretch a point by two chairs.

    St. Lukashenko is sovereign. The people understand that without Russia we are corpses.
  42. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 14 December 2018 18: 06
    +1
    Another wave. Before the New Year, the leaders will meet. One will ask, the second one will promise and again roll everything as before. Although the slide should end somewhere.
  43. Alexander not great
    Alexander not great 14 December 2018 18: 09
    +1
    Old Man must understand that sitting on two chairs)) becomes uncomfortable over time)))
  44. ludrosia
    ludrosia 14 December 2018 18: 15
    +2
    Quote: Tukm
    but so that as a result the state would be one, and at the same time there would be such an agreement that would suit both Russian and Belarus, one must think how to do it. And who will rule Belarus or Russian in this state, for me, it makes no difference, in theory if we are one people

    You have Russia-rich-there-ALL the necessary resources: starting from the best army-capable of protecting you all this, ending with all the resources: resources, territories, people-EVERYTHING.
    Return the retirement age to people back: men at 60 years of retirement, women at 55 years old, military and law enforcement agencies at 45 years old. Who wants to work voluntarily, without coercion and can work after 60 years, or let him work 55, only voluntarily, without coercion. For salary, without pension.
    Give apartments to families with children from the state for FREE, at least two-room apartments, with a good repair of comfort class, with a separate bathroom. Pay people such a salary, so that one person can earn a good two-room apartment with a good repair of class comfort, with a separate bathroom for five years. Where to get the money ?? - Cut the salaries and salaries of deputies, officials, or remove those nonsense and traitors and leave those who really do for Russia and the people, for example, such as Natalia Poklonskaya. Take away all the Alexei Kudrins, these idiots-that they are screaming that the state did not ask you to give birth, but those who offer to live on macaroni-fat themselves, or like in a war-fat themselves. The rest is in the comments above.
    Then people, peoples, princes of the former republics of the USSR, themselves will be drawn to you. The people, and so reaches for you. And so, even more drawn. All this I have chewed more than once and about five years ago. When will it reach you?
    1. Naive
      Naive 14 December 2018 21: 33
      -1
      Will not reach. It makes no sense.
  45. Device
    Device 14 December 2018 18: 15
    +2
    Is he the brother of a candy nutcracker? That year already reflects hordes of horns. Now this one got infected.
  46. GUSAR
    GUSAR 14 December 2018 18: 17
    -1
    It's just that someone in Moscow really needs a "new format", otherwise it's impossible more than 2 times in a row. And that Russia, that Belarus is on the side
  47. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 14 December 2018 18: 18
    -2
    How much can you say. In Belarus there is an official site. Read. You reprint reprints. You are being fooled. It is correct that liability for false information is introduced. Swear you can’t fool us? After all, were you?
  48. FOBOSS
    FOBOSS 14 December 2018 18: 18
    +2
    Quote: ludrossia
    Quote: FOBOSS
    The sad thing is that 80% of all our exports are focused on Russia and now either leave your market and collapse the economy (which is equivalent for you to get off the oil needle). Or integrate into Russia. Worse, it’s difficult to answer, because further development with Lukashenko is not possible (he is stagnant and without ideas), in the West we haven’t fooled anyone, as part of Russia, it’s about 20 years to humble yourself until you get off your knees and defeat all enemies. So personally, in general, I do not see any future prospects for the country. I don’t believe in Belarusian identity at all.

    We need to be part of Russia. We, Belarusians, have long dreamed about this, since the collapse of the USSR about reunification.
    Without Russia, Belarus is just a corpse. For three days, they will simply smear us and turn it into ashes and ruins. And they will place NATO military bases or camps of mercenaries on our territory in Belarus. Thanks to Russia, nobody attacked us. Russia-all these years- since the collapse of the USSR, it protects us. And you blather something about the fact that Russia must win, YES THANKS TO RUSSIA-BELARUS IS ALIVE! You look at Lukashenka’s agreements on cooperation with Russia and protecting us, since the collapse of the USSR, they were signed under Yeltsin. What’s wrong ??? - Look what’s going on in Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, in NATO.

    So the fact of the matter is that under Yeltsin, Russia needed us because the industry was tied to Russia, so Luke and built an alliance so that everything would continue to be so and then Russia developed its own industry "import substitution" is called and we are, in principle, not so very much needed. And if we talk about the mess, then in any case, we will be the first to shake off. So geography ordered it. Remember the Second World War, how long the Germans went through the whole of Belarus. I am for Russia with all my heart, but I do not see any prospects not in the composition or separately. Although the lineup will probably be a little better.
    1. Sergei75
      Sergei75 14 December 2018 20: 58
      -1
      Thank you for sharing the people of Russia with Russia itself from those who rule it.
      1. FOBOSS
        FOBOSS 14 December 2018 21: 05
        +1
        As if we have a different way. Even in my small city with a population of 70, the golem executive committee decides who should paint the fence to whom, how much to hand over waste paper, etc. and if you refuse, then forget about business development. Stupidly come to you and say, buy what they need.
  49. admrall
    admrall 14 December 2018 18: 23
    +1
    Old Man is a cunning type of ours and yours
    1. Sergei75
      Sergei75 12 January 2019 01: 10
      0
      And he doesn’t need anyone in FIG, so he ego ...
  50. midshipman
    midshipman 14 December 2018 18: 28
    +2
    It has always been that way. I was subordinate (6 gu of the Ministry of Radio Industry of the USSR) in Belarus there were 9 enterprises. Now they are closed or they are breathing in an incense. What happened to the TZ "Horizon", the Vitebsk TZ, the Grodno plant "Autoradio tape recorder, etc. Everything needs to be raised. And what were the leading research institutes.
    1. Sewer krainiy
      Sewer krainiy 15 December 2018 15: 38
      +1
      Warrant officer honor and respect. Somewhere, it seems, we crossed paths, on Novaya Zemlya, in particular. And the Grodno "Volna", which produced the defense industry, is working. Russian defense orders and supplies of components have ceased - it produces electrical harnesses for Volkswagen and others. Yours faithfully hi Yes, the Minsk Integral, by the way, is working very successfully.
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 15 December 2018 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: Sewer Krainiy
        Midshipman honor and respect.

        well yes . in front of such vanity (with all the extremely great merits), you feel like a dust directly.
        "" "" "" "" "" "" "I am in charge of" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "
        I would highlight these words in bold and underline and write in capital letters (everyone should notice this) in his place and so on in every comment.
        somehow I always remember (after the midshipman) about collective farmers, collective farmers, milkmaids, other hard workers - I think it’s not even worth talking about them - the dust is!
        before, it always sounded so strong - I have the honor - beautiful, awesome.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 December 2018 23: 35
          0
          Quote: vitvit123
          well yes . in front of such vanity (with all the extremely great merits), you feel like a dust directly.

          You shouldn’t be so. Michman has a lot of inventions, both defense and not, he was a member of the Buran launch commission, he was responsible in the USSR for the development of color TVs, automation of air traffic control, more than 250 thousand people worked under his leadership. Our airplanes are equipped with its landing complexes, and on Buran, too.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 16 December 2018 09: 03
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            You shouldn’t be so. Michman has a lot of inventions, both defense and not, he was a member of the Buran launch commission, he was responsible in the USSR for the development of color TVs, automation of air traffic control, more than 250 thousand people worked under his leadership. Our airplanes are equipped with its landing complexes, and on Buran, too.

            yes I read something about him. We were taught that others should talk about you, about your actions, etc. And his comments always and in every possible way emphasize that he is a man of very high flight, and he himself emphasizes. Reading his comments, I just can't imagine him as a wise man (even if he is a hundred times smarter than me). There were enough such leaders in the USSR and it is unknown whether he did people good or bad. Well, in every possible way and everywhere he emphasized that he was at the "helm", personally I find it funny, you see a different perception ...
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 16 December 2018 09: 25
              0
              Quote: vitvit123
              unknown, he did people good or bad.

              Personally, I think yes. The products of "Horizon" were actively used. I just can’t bring my “Ocean” receiver to mind, shaman a little on FM, I’ve already lost my skills, hands-hooks, although in my childhood I assembled the “Yunost” receiver-designer. And it sounds much better than the current squeakers, albeit from the 70s. (78th kind). And the TV was very good. Yes, and you also produced good products in the Baltics. And where is everyone?
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 16 December 2018 16: 57
                0
                [quote = Mordvin 3] Personally, I think yes. The products of "Horizon" were actively used. I just can’t bring my “Ocean” receiver to mind, shaman a little on FM, I’ve already lost my skills, hands-hooks, although in my childhood I assembled the “Yunost” receiver-designer. And it sounds much better than the current squeakers, albeit from the 70s. (78th kind). And the TV was very good. Yes, and you also produced good products in the Baltics. And where is everyone? [/ Quote
                I do not know him . I personally did not work with him, whether he did good or bad for people - I also do not know. I judge only by his very vain comments. I dislike it - as to many bosses (tightly clever) who in every possible way emphasize their position. that's all . I am not saying anything, this is my perception of his comments. By the way, Film: Devil's Advocate, it seems to me very well suited to this case. And, in any case, I advise you to look.
        2. Sewer krainiy
          Sewer krainiy 18 December 2018 19: 05
          0
          somehow I always remember (after the midshipman) about collective farmers, collective farmers, milkmaids, other hard workers - I think it’s not even worth talking about them - the dust is!
          Yes, you are not thinking about anyone, a schoolboy of the 5th grade, and do not remember anything. Learn the rules of spelling, syntax, live for about 70 years, serve in the army and earn 55 years of service like that, then blather. Or express your informed opinion and do not comment on the site. And in general, it seems that you did not hold anything in your hands heavier than a glass, especially an automatic machine.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 19 December 2018 17: 15
            0
            Quote: Sewer Krainiy
            somehow I always remember (after the midshipman) about collective farmers, collective farmers, milkmaids, other hard workers - I think it’s not even worth talking about them - the dust is!
            Yes, you are not thinking about anyone, a schoolboy of the 5th grade, and do not remember anything. Learn the rules of spelling, syntax, live for about 70 years, serve in the army and earn 55 years of service like that, then blather. Or express your informed opinion and do not comment on the site. And in general, it seems that you did not hold anything in your hands heavier than a glass, especially an automatic machine.

            I wrote you a message in PM.
            1. Sewer krainiy
              Sewer krainiy 20 December 2018 19: 43
              0
              In PM I answered you if it worked. I am, after all, an "advanced" computer user. If you haven't received it here, write ... an interesting question.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 20 December 2018 22: 23
                0
                Quote: Sewer Krainiy

                In PM I answered you if it worked. I am, after all, an "advanced" computer user. If you haven't received it here, write ... an interesting question.

                By the way, you too, together with me, should have studied the Russian language, too, not without sin!