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In the West, presented the scenario of a non-nuclear war between NATO and Russia

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A non-nuclear armed conflict between NATO forces and Russia can begin in the Baltic States, writes in its article for The National Interest military columnist David Ex.

In the West, presented the scenario of a non-nuclear war between NATO and Russia


In this war, opponents are likely to use a large number of bombers, ships and submarines.

Referring to the statements of various experts, the author concludes that if Moscow decides on military actions, then first of all it will direct its forces to the most vulnerable territories of NATO - the Baltic countries. The blow will be struck even before “adequate reinforcement” is deployed there.

In the early days of conflict, the situation may develop in favor of Russia - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will be seized. But then the Russian troops will be forced to spend time and energy on deterring major alliance response, the newspaper writes.

Moscow is likely to use the Northern Fleet in hostilities. Missiles launched from surface and submarine ships will hit targets on land. Cruise and ballistic missiles located on the Kola Peninsula will hit some areas of Norway. And the planes rising from the northern bases are attacked by NATO rear facilities, the article says.

However, today few people will turn the language to call the North Atlantic Alliance, which has a huge mobilization resource, especially in terms of naval forces. Russia cannot boast of such opportunities. Therefore, in the end, NATO will win, the author writes.

He also notes that Russia with the help of submarines will threaten the sea routes of the alliance. For its part, NATO, with bases in Norway, Iceland and Britain, can successfully counter this threat by ensuring the safe transfer of forces and assets from the United States. At the same time British the fleet will have to play a leading role in protecting convoys crossing the Atlantic.
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  1. Vlad 63
    Vlad 63 14 December 2018 15: 43
    +56
    military columnist David Ex writes in an article for The National Interest.
    Take away the keyboard from the patient, crippled.
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 14 December 2018 15: 46
      +28
      In general, the doctor responsible for taking the pills should be fined. the dreams of a schizophrenic should remain a medical secret.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 14 December 2018 16: 22
        +12
        Quote: TAMBU
        In general, the doctor responsible for taking the pills should be fined. the dreams of a schizophrenic should remain a medical secret.

        There are no dreams for a long time. This patient says essentially the same thing as politicians in Washington. War, war, war. No matter what, the main thing is against the Russian Federation.
        And after that, the zealots come here and say that nobody wants to fight with us. That is all Russian hysteria and propaganda.
        Apparently the NATO base at our borders is also the propaganda of the Kremlin.
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU 14 December 2018 16: 47
          +11
          Dreams that the war will not be nuclear ... so calm ohinenu carry and hysteria escalate when it seems that there will be no fungus outside the window ...
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 14 December 2018 17: 01
            +6
            It is strange that this "eksperdit" military observer did not mention the mandatory use of nuclear weapons in such a war on both sides!
            1. parkello
              parkello 14 December 2018 18: 08
              +4
              he’s also an expert) and they better let them remember how they dropped atomic bombs on non-nuclear Japan ... and NATO has nuclear weapons, so let them forget about non-nuclear war forever. let them only fire once ... and the whole world in ruin ... yes, such a world is not a pity, let it burn with a blue flame.
          2. white.eagle
            white.eagle 14 December 2018 19: 17
            -5
            During World War II, Stalin did not use chemical weapons when the German army was near Moscow. Hitler also did not use chemical weapons when the Soviet army was near Berlin. No one will use atomic weapons in the modern world.
            1. DenZ
              DenZ 14 December 2018 21: 18
              +2
              Quote: white.eagle
              No one will use atomic weapons in the modern world.

              They cited as an example the reasoning of two people (Stalin and Hitler) and concluded that everyone else would do the same. Where is the logic?
            2. ilimnoz
              ilimnoz 14 December 2018 22: 58
              +3
              Stalin and Hitler were more adequate than the British and Americans who without hesitation used the atomic bomb against the Japanese. and now they would apply but not everything in the calculations converges. modeling fails if it is amiss :))
        2. The comment was deleted.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 December 2018 15: 49
      +4
      In the West, presented the scenario of a non-nuclear war between NATO and Russia

      Dreamers! The crest on the top of your head. Want to imagine a war?
      Wakes up in the morning, looking out the window at the sea expanses, and the entire area of ​​the Russian buoys is poked ... belay And HANDLES - THERE ARE THEY! fellow
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 14 December 2018 16: 15
      +4
      Quote: Vlad 63
      Take away the keyboard from the patient;

      They completely went overboard with the use of substances ...
      1. Spine
        Spine 14 December 2018 16: 54
        +11
        The USA has its own scenario, Russia has its own .. Let’s check the gentlemen?

        laughing soldier drinks
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 14 December 2018 16: 58
          +1
          Nice drawing! good
          1. Spine
            Spine 14 December 2018 18: 30
            +1
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Nice drawing! good

            Soulful with Russian humor and audacity ..!
        2. northern
          northern 15 December 2018 10: 47
          +1
          Original picture :-)
          1. Spine
            Spine 15 December 2018 10: 59
            -1
            Quote: north
            Original picture :-)

            It can turn into reality, with the same unperturbed face and actions ..
            Russian will be brought up, if our children already draw this in notebooks in a box .. soldier laughing
            1. northern
              northern 15 December 2018 11: 03
              0
              This is not a children's drawing, stylization. And what do our non-nuclear forces do in America? Indians free? I do not remember from our side the wars of conquest.
    4. StudentVK
      StudentVK 14 December 2018 17: 40
      0
      - And I will defeat them all !!! - Into his ward! Lead Alexander the Great.
  2. faiver
    faiver 14 December 2018 15: 45
    +3
    military commentator David Ex
    - a very narrow-minded person ....
    1. A good one
      A good one 14 December 2018 15: 53
      +3
      No matter how he actually became an ex-inhabitant of the Earth.
      1. Comrade Beria
        Comrade Beria 14 December 2018 16: 02
        0
        Quote: Not bad
        No matter how he actually became an ex-inhabitant of the Earth.


        Ex means ex. There was and no. laughing
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 14 December 2018 17: 12
          +1
          Quote: Comrade Beria
          Ex means ex.

          Can be interpreted as Experienced ... probably in this "chic" edition there are observers Coward and Goonies laughing
  3. Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 14 December 2018 15: 45
    +3
    Super exciting plot. Or nonsense. Ely-pala himself got confused.
    1. spec.78
      spec.78 14 December 2018 18: 15
      0
      Only who said that, under a similar scenario, we will stop in the Baltic states? Only on the Cote d'Azur and Reykjavik wink
  4. pavelty
    pavelty 14 December 2018 15: 46
    +9
    The Baltic countries are like that elusive Joe ... will soon cease to exist, and the last one leaving for work will turn off the lights at the Riga airport)
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 14 December 2018 16: 19
      +6
      Quote: pavlentiy
      The Baltic countries are like that elusive Joe ... will soon cease to exist, and the last one leaving for work will turn off the lights at the Riga airport)

      Come on to you ... Not everything is so bad with them.

      They live happily and happily, as they lived in 20-30 before the Russians arrived. Industry was on the rise - an industrial enterprise was considered an economy where there was a boat motor and at least one hired worker. Agriculture too. In each yard there are 2-3 pigs. Noisy, big cities - the city in that Baltic was the settlement where more than 3000 people live.

      They will live happily ever after, catch their sprat and eat it, because I, for example, saw their sprat in their grave - mine, our Volga pike perch, is much closer ...

      That's just about the elusive Joe with both hands I support you. drinks
    2. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 14 December 2018 17: 49
      +2
      Question: Why should the Russian Federation feed new mouths, especially those that openly do not oppose new fascism? Why do we need the Baltic states? To prove that the Russians are such a bargain as they are represented by an propagandized Western audience? Ie Russian just let the war unleash at least somewhere. But seriously, there is anxiety and the expectation of some kind of denouement for the excessively heated tension in Europe and the USA. Well, the USA and their NATO can’t just weird and demonize us from year to year, crush with doping, sanctions and other injustices in order to continue to live like we lived ... Why is this necessary. Passion only grows. And provocations in the general firebox.
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 14 December 2018 15: 46
    +1
    "first of all will direct its forces to the most vulnerable NATO territories - the Baltic states"

    Definitely, Romania will become another important area for the war with NATO. yes And several BDKs for landing in Hawaii. good It is felt that a military observer is a savvy person.
  6. cobalt
    cobalt 14 December 2018 15: 49
    +3
    Everything would be nothing in this fairy tale, only a nuclear cudgel along the ridge of NATO has not yet been canceled.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 14 December 2018 16: 23
      +3
      Quote: cobalt
      Everything would be nothing in this fairy tale, only a nuclear cudgel along the ridge of NATO has not yet been canceled.

      And not just a club. It is unknown how everything will turn there. It may well happen that NATO (read - America) wants to fight in the Baltic states, and the otter will fly not only to Vilnius, but also to New York and Washington. Everything happens in war ...
  7. A good one
    A good one 14 December 2018 15: 51
    +3
    May there be no more tin toy soldiers for the West, they do not want to go down to the sinful earth.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 14 December 2018 17: 56
      +1
      Yes. It seems that the author of the article still transferred to the era of the First World War. As if Yao and rockets do not exist.
      Well, why should Russians rush to the Baltic states? What is the operational and strategic goal? What is there that everyone needs in case of war? Nothing! NATO wants this scenario, but ours clearly have plans for a different development of events. This is the inertness of thinking. The desire to dispense with less blood on their part and with palm off the eastern enemy to the seed of defenseless young European.
  8. spektr9
    spektr9 14 December 2018 15: 53
    +6
    The National Interest - maybe this is the name of a psychiatric clinic in the United States?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 December 2018 15: 59
      0
      There Pushkov in the editorial board and Kissinger as the chief editor (who is the chief doctor)
  9. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 14 December 2018 15: 55
    +3
    Tom Clancy re-read. But he had more interesting painted. The Airborne Forces (for some reason not a Marine) from a vessel disguised as an American cargo ship captures Iceland, thus cutting the sea routes between the USA and Europe, the SA fails to break through the European defenses in Germany, etc.
    The book is called The Red Storm. laughing
    1. faiver
      faiver 14 December 2018 18: 19
      +1
      oh, for a long time I read this miracle, the Americans were throwing down our packs in straight lines, that the planes, that the armored vehicles ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 14 December 2018 18: 23
        +2
        Yes, but in an epic battle over Iceland, the Mig-29 defeated the F-15s laughing
        I was more amused by a group of 3 SAS, marines, surveyor and abused Valkyrie, who fought on equal terms with a platoon of airborne forces with mortar support from the Russians)).
    2. northern
      northern 15 December 2018 10: 52
      +1
      Yes, Clancy even wrote fierce crap sometimes, but beautifully :-)
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 15 December 2018 11: 56
        0
        And a lot of items of equipment, sometimes TTX available to the public)).
        1. northern
          northern 15 December 2018 12: 06
          +1
          Janes Directory has not been canceled
    3. Wildcat
      Wildcat 16 December 2018 17: 00
      +1
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Tom Clancy re-read. But he had more interesting painted. The Airborne Forces (for some reason not a Marine) from a vessel disguised as an American cargo ship captures Iceland, thus cutting the sea routes between the USA and Europe, the SA fails to break through the European defenses in Germany, etc.
      The book is called The Red Storm. laughing

      I recommend reading Clancy’s last book; it wasn’t published in Russian in paper, but on the Internet you’ll find wink ... There, even before 2014, it was written how one country, which borders on Ukraine, enters into a relationship with it ... after which Crimea "leaves" Ukraine, and the troops of "one country" leave other territories of Ukraine and the Baltic states hi
      As Tom looked into the water, God rest his soul, Gd was a good writer. recourse
      He also described the battle scenes well, but everything else is a lie and Russophobia! soldier
      Or play in Navy Fighter from Janes, the company "Ukraine" is also a lie and Russophobia, there are no such Su37 "Stealthy Ivan" laughing . soldier
  10. Samara_63
    Samara_63 14 December 2018 15: 57
    +4
    A non-nuclear armed conflict between NATO forces and Russia would be ideal! In the course of this war, Russia would be in Berlin again in 2 months!
    1. malyvalv
      malyvalv 14 December 2018 19: 44
      +1
      What for? Isn't it better to chop Alaska back?
      1. northern
        northern 15 December 2018 10: 54
        0
        And build a bridge over it across the strait.
  11. Device
    Device 14 December 2018 15: 57
    +11
    They no longer know where to attach this Baltic. She already barks constantly, and throws shit, and a prostitute was appointed president, but still Russia does not notice her. Now they really decided to throw it under the tractor. But the poor can not understand that Russia does not need this bribatika. Need not! In no form. Strategically for war, it is a dead end. Che there to do Russian troops? Only time to waste. They still think of themselves as a showcase of a great country, but in fact, for a long time
    latrine in Europe.
  12. Mouse
    Mouse 14 December 2018 15: 59
    +8
    Non-nuclear armed conflict between NATO forces and Russia may begin in the Baltic

    Now the Ukrainians are upset ... they are at a low start every day, they are waiting ... It's time for them to auction - who will attack Russia first (scuffle is welcome) ...
  13. kventinasd
    kventinasd 14 December 2018 16: 00
    +4
    At the same time, the British fleet will have to play a leading role in protecting convoys crossing the Atlantic.

    I think the UK will immediately go under water along with its convoys ..
  14. Samara_63
    Samara_63 14 December 2018 16: 00
    +1
    The author is inadequate! Why the Fleet, when the entire land direction to Portugal is, and in the Ground Forces the Red Army is still the strongest. The Navy? So why do they need us in Europe?
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 December 2018 16: 30
      +3
      Quote: Samara_63
      and in the Ground Forces the Red Army is still the strongest.

      I am sorry to disappoint you, but the number of ALL Russian ground forces is inferior to only one NATO member - Turkey. Even more sadly, the US Marine Corps alone, although inferior in number to our ground forces, is not too much
      1. KCA
        KCA 14 December 2018 17: 28
        +5
        And in a year or two, this corps will be able to assemble in one place in a single shock fist for attack, but where will it be assembled? in Africa? for all of Europe will be under the fifth bear, Turkey, but will she want to protect her beloved Europe, or will she wait a bit?
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 14 December 2018 19: 34
          -2
          Quote: KCA
          And in a year or two this body will be able to assemble in one place in a single shock fist

          Well, during the "Desert Shield" we transferred 6 divisions and a regiment of ground forces and 2 divisions of marines in 4 months.
          Quote: KCA
          for all of Europe will be under the heel of a bear,

          What a bear? :))))) We have no strength not just in Europe, we are hardly able to occupy Germany
        2. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 15 December 2018 22: 22
          0
          I agree. Something I doubt that in the light of the current stitches, Turkey will harness for NATO.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 14 December 2018 17: 38
        +3
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        but the number of ALL ground troops of the Russian Federation is inferior to only one NATO member - Turkey. Even more sadly, the US Marine Corps alone, although inferior in number to our ground forces, is not too much

        All this is true, but the Americans have a force of 29-30 thousand people in Europe, of which 24 thousand are serving on a permanent basis, and 4 thousand on a rotational basis. The bulk of these people serve not in combat, but in auxiliary units and support troops. Of course, they are building up their forces, creating interspecific multinational formations of up to 50 thousand personnel in the southwestern and western directions, but so far these are very cumbersome formations with a term operational deployment from one to two weeks. For comparison, Russia at the exercises a year ago in 72 hours formed the 100 thousandth interspecific group in the Kaliningrad region. under the very nose of NATO. Hence the hysteria in the Baltics and Poland and the suspicious 'complacent calm' in Germany winked
        If you recall the recent statements by Putin, who, to Macron’s words that Europe is completely dependent on the United States in the field of security, said
        No need to worry! If anything, we will help, we will ensure safety. We will also make sure that there are no new threats. ”And this, as we see, is not empty words.
      3. Samara_63
        Samara_63 14 December 2018 20: 33
        0
        No, we didn’t disappoint ... In NATO in Europe we have to fight on land only with the United States, but they aren’t what warriors are now, and I’m completely silent about Europe, most of them have lost their ability to cope on the street, and about marol strong-willed? Atas, they’ll run away!
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 December 2018 11: 54
          0
          Quote: Samara_63
          In NATO in Europe, we have to fight on land only with the United States

          Mmmm ... But Germany and all sorts of other England where to go? :)))
          Quote: Samara_63
          And about marol-volitional? Atas, they’ll run away!

          Nope, they won’t.
  15. arhPavel
    arhPavel 14 December 2018 16: 01
    +4
    After reading this .. this ..
    Generally
    1. The duty shift orderlies to punish.
    2. Send the attending physician for re-certification.
    3. Isolate the patient.
    4. HR department of the newspaper to disperse.

    However, today few people will turn their tongues. Therefore, in the end, NATO will win, the author writes.
    He also notes that Russia, with the help of submarines, will threaten the sea routes of the alliance. At the same time, the British fleet will have to play a leading role in protecting convoys crossing the Atlantic.

    He, in my opinion, simply confuses the time and the name of the countries
  16. Valter1364
    Valter1364 14 December 2018 16: 01
    +1
    How tired of these Western theorists. stop
  17. Tektor
    Tektor 14 December 2018 16: 02
    +1
    Some kind of nonsense. First of all, the command posts and radars should be pacified. Hybrid (hack) and rocket. And the most important command posts and radars on the continent. The second thing is ships and submarines. Further - bases, fuels and lubricants infrastructure (hack) and airfields. And only after that, you can assign no-fly zones, and move the leaflets forward: "Dry clothes, hot tea with cheesecakes, warm houses. Russian vodka with dumplings." Such a "donkey" will take any city without a fight.
  18. Raptor
    Raptor 14 December 2018 16: 06
    +4
    I would always like to ask the authors of such articles - Why? Why should Russia attack the Baltic states? Why should Russia attack NATO? What is the benefit for Russia in this? Does Russia have little territory?
    1. Dron_sk
      Dron_sk 15 December 2018 03: 26
      0
      In their opinion, Russia has imperial ambitions. Plus, there are a lot of Russian-speaking population in the Baltic States, which is infringed on the rights and, like, we consider the Baltic States to be our territory.
  19. lopvlad
    lopvlad 14 December 2018 16: 07
    +4
    non-nuclear war scenario between NATO and Russia


    you can immediately throw it away and wipe yourself with this scenario. The war between NATO and Russia, if necessary, will be nuclear. These schizophrenics, after the USSR collapsed and there was no serious opponent, began to consider the war an easy walk and a game with tea breaks and rules.
    The war has long turned into a street fight in lawlessness where each of the opponents will use everything that he has at hand for survival and no one there will "wield a knife" with the threat of his destruction.
  20. BAI
    BAI 14 December 2018 16: 07
    +3
    Somewhere I already saw this article.
    Everything at once can be thrown into the trash, given that (as already stated) Russia will be the first to use nuclear weapons if it considers it necessary in the dangerous development of the conflict.
  21. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 14 December 2018 16: 14
    +1
    There were already analogues of NATO, under Napoleon, Hitler and even earlier .... history does not teach you gentlemen. Even remember the First World War, if not for the output of the Republic of Ingushetia after the revolution, then in general history could have developed differently
  22. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 14 December 2018 16: 18
    +5
    Russia should pay more attention to explaining to the Western public that a non-nuclear war between Russia and the West is impossible. That illusions were not built, and idiotic scenarios were not presented.
  23. Dirty Harry
    Dirty Harry 14 December 2018 16: 34
    +1
    The North Atlantic Alliance, which has a huge mobilization resource, especially in terms of the naval forces. Russia cannot boast of such opportunities.

    Yes, in a puddle like the Baltic, their fleet will be an excellent target. And if, without waiting for the British fleet to be driven, Sund and the Kiel Canal can be thrown by mines, it will be very interesting!
  24. LeftPers
    LeftPers 14 December 2018 16: 41
    +1
    I wanted to ask what the author of this shit smokes?
  25. K-50
    K-50 14 December 2018 16: 43
    0
    How they are buggy from products with GMOs. wassat
    What kind of fuck can’t be invented. laughing
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 14 December 2018 16: 51
      0
      I never understood how saving humanity from hunger in the form of products grown by GMOs can affect gene mutations in the human body ... but how the ban on such products helps capitalists to make me work in mines for a plate of food ... winked
  26. akunin
    akunin 14 December 2018 16: 52
    0
    I don’t understand, but what about without a nuclear club? And how without "the whole world in dust"? If you don’t hit the “golden billion”, then there will be no sense, but not to drive the delivery vehicles empty (without a nuclear head) overseas?
  27. Izotovp
    Izotovp 14 December 2018 17: 21
    0
    The whole question is: what genital organ do we need to capture the Baltic states ?! Why do they not give an answer to this question? Okay, it struck us in the head to return home the originally Slavic lands, for which it was repeatedly paid with Russian blood, and, as it is not funny, but also with full-weighted Russian gold rubles. Only forge you to attack other NATO countries? Quickly occupied, put up air defense and coastal anti-ship systems and conduct a quiet clean-up together with very competent authorities. In the queue, however, are lined up from those who want to cooperate.
  28. garik77
    garik77 14 December 2018 17: 37
    +1
    Have you accessed the madhouse? Urgently Margulisa there!
    "Everyone was almost crazy, even who was crazy, and then the head physician Margulis
    TV banned. "
  29. Andrea
    Andrea 14 December 2018 17: 43
    0
    Here's what I will say ... you can’t drink the dope of whiskey!
    The psyche is weak, Russia seems to be everywhere.
  30. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 14 December 2018 17: 51
    0

    if Moscow decides on military operations, it will first of all direct its forces to the most vulnerable NATO territories - the Baltic countries

    why Russia will attack sprats ?!
    Moscow is likely to use the Northern Fleet in the fighting. Missiles launched from surface and submarine ships will hit targets on land. Cruise and ballistic missiles located on the Kola Peninsula will hit some parts of Norway. And planes rising from northern bases will attack NATO rear facilities

    and how will it end?
  31. Katanikotael
    Katanikotael 14 December 2018 17: 58
    0
    Why capture spratland and not Japan for example? The benefits are orders of magnitude greater and the risks are the same. If we write about boats, then Japan is somehow preferable.
  32. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 14 December 2018 17: 58
    0
    Quote: spektr9
    The National Interest - maybe this is the name of a psychiatric clinic in the United States?

    And Donald is the main patient there.
  33. Evil echo
    Evil echo 14 December 2018 18: 03
    0
    My question is - why the hell should we attack the Baltic states?
  34. APASUS
    APASUS 14 December 2018 18: 33
    +1
    This crap again! Once again we are convinced that we will attack the wretched, the light has wedged out on their lands or oil has fallen. Why should we get the land of sprat eaters, can they explain it to NATO?
  35. Tamek
    Tamek 14 December 2018 18: 42
    +2
    Of course, for any normal guy it’s clear that the fight to the death is waged by all available means, therefore it’s logical to call NATO and Russia a nonsense, well, it’s recalled that during the Second World War no one dared to use chemical weapons, even at critical moments . And then personally in my brain is taken 0.5 percent probability for such a war. And since this is not zero, the brain begins to ask what actions the opponents will take in this case, it would be interesting to read options other than hitting the Baltic states, and not comments like this is nonsense, call a psychiatrist, etc.
  36. HMR333
    HMR333 14 December 2018 18: 48
    0
    and what kind of mobilization resources in NATO? three Estonians or Germans with prehistoric semi-broken equipment that brought it because of NATO? or the French? UK fleet? what fleet is he building in the old days of strategy! in general, the next vyser without counting without at least any layouts of the troops of the equipment of the possibilities of territorial and weather moments without the readiness of any troops! yes I know they will bomb bombers!
  37. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 14 December 2018 18: 50
    0
    About the submarine, pleased! laughing
    At DKBF, we have "a lot" of them, it turns out)))
    And in general, there must be a thirst for sprat, bordering on madness, to desire the Baltic states)))
  38. AB
    AB 14 December 2018 19: 54
    0
    Are they crazy? There will be no non-nuclear war with Russia.
  39. Waldemar
    Waldemar 14 December 2018 19: 57
    0
    The enemy must be beaten in the heart and in the head and not in the cut off nail
  40. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 December 2018 21: 10
    0
    Yeah, no mind, no, and no again. But famously wrapped
    For its part, NATO, with bases in Norway, Iceland and Britain, can successfully counter this threat by ensuring the safe transfer of forces and assets from the United States. At the same time, the British fleet will have to play a leading role in protecting convoys crossing the Atlantic.

    They (the Europeans) provide, and they should fight for the striped, I liked it. But it’s in vain, on the striped where you sit, you get down in the same place.
  41. Hypersound
    Hypersound 14 December 2018 21: 25
    0
    Do not hope the conflict will be nuclear
  42. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 14 December 2018 22: 06
    0
    As you see the author, Dave immediately misses the urge to read further, many have already noticed that most of the couch experts of the West are all like two of the casket, one deiva is similar to them
  43. TOR2
    TOR2 14 December 2018 23: 31
    0
    Turning to the statements of various experts, the author concludes that if Moscow decides to take military action, it will first direct its forces to the most vulnerable territories of NATO - the Baltic countries.
    I really want to listen to these experts, but what if the first blow is delivered to where they are not waiting. What interesting they will draw scripts.
    Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

    Russia should pay more attention to explaining to the western public that a nuclear war between Russia and the West is not possible.
    Here it is to the very point. They desperately need a limited war game. Zero your debt, and drive the geyropu into debt, earning on recovery. Recovering anything in the area of ​​radioactive contamination would be pointless, so let them not dream. The public also does not bother to hint that after the first nuclear weapon explodes on the territory of the Russian Federation, it does not matter what power Uncle Semu needs to prepare to catch a similar ball into his own net. They have a collective type of defense, which means collective responsibility.
    At the same time, the British fleet will have to play a leading role in protecting convoys crossing the Atlantic.
    Yes, only ports in geyrop will no longer be.
  44. aerspb
    aerspb 15 December 2018 01: 15
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    British fleet? no, I haven’t seen :)
    Britain - the mistress of the seas - an anachronism. With the fleet, she is now completely ill.
  45. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 15 December 2018 01: 19
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    In an armed clash between Russia and NATO, the use of nuclear weapons will be inevitable. Nuclear weapons are weapons of mass destruction. It makes no sense to use it for military installations with a small number of local population. To destroy military facilities (military bases, missile carriers, aircraft carriers), there is no need to use missiles with nuclear warheads. Nuclear weapons are a weapon of intimidation. 90% of Russian nuclear warheads will hit US cities. In Europe, nuclear weapons must be used according to air defense systems and US military bases, so that the local population understands the truth - saving the drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves.
  46. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 15 December 2018 01: 31
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    The US is not interested in a nuclear war. They need the natural resources of Russia and the local population who will develop these resources. They will even pay a good salary to Russian engineers and workers who will extract minerals for the United States. Only the threat of nuclear war from Russia can stop them.
    1. Self
      Self 15 December 2018 05: 42
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      And on the other hand, why do they need a war for this? They issue colored papers, in exchange of which everyone is happy to drag any resources to them. And they very clearly showed on the example of the USSR that in order to ruin a country, one should not fight with it. It’s enough to buy a few people at the top, and they will already issue laws and decrees by which you will extract minerals for the United States)))
  47. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 December 2018 04: 20
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    Yes, as soon as one of the parties begins to fail,
    so immediately use nuclear weapons.
    And only the presence of nuclear weapons keeps these vultures from another world war.
  48. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 15 December 2018 07: 03
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    sprat states directly dream of being captured and then fed and watered, and they would wrinkle their faces!
  49. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 15 December 2018 07: 12
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    "I am thinking that this frying pan will speak ..." ("Shadows disappear at noon)
    Fantasy of huge size.
    On provocation - with atomic bombs across London and Washington. And there is no need to go there. "Die," as the president said.
  50. Ivanov IV
    Ivanov IV 15 December 2018 10: 27
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    All this talk about a non-nuclear war between NATO and Russia is a provocation. Russia must clearly and quite unequivocally make it clear to NATO that it will use tactical and, if necessary, strategic nuclear weapons as well. The clash with the use of conventional weapons will be prolonged, and Russia does not have the resources for a "marathon".
    Awareness of the use of nuclear weapons by the West will be the best guarantee of avoiding conflict.