In the "Tank Biathlon" may appear the night stage

The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of inclusion in "Tank biathlon ”, which will be held in 2019 as part of the Fifth Army International Games, an additional night stage, the newspaper reports News.

According to the Chief of the Main Directorate of Combat Training of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Ivan Buvaltsev, the fifth games provide for a number of features, including the possibility of conducting the night Tank Biathlon stage and rally raid in the Military Rally competition.

The general promised that the competitions will be complicated and will become more spectacular. In some trials, female crews will take part.

It is also planned to appeal to the participants of the competition and the spectators of the crew of the International Space Station, added Buvaltsev.

According to him, the Army Games in 2019 will be held from 3 to 17 in August at 24 training grounds in ten countries. For the first time, competitions will be held in Uzbekistan, Mongolia and India. In total, 32 contests will be held as part of the games.

Recall, “Army Games-2018” took place from 29 July to 11 in August on the territory of seven countries, including Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, China and Iran. Military experts from 32 states came to try their hand.

This year, the Russian team won the first place in the “tank biathlon”. As Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu noted, this victory was a triumph for the Russian team, which demonstrated excellent tank control and precise fulfillment of the tasks set.

Comments

[Samara_63]

It’s bad that there are no normal countries among the participants ... maybe only China

[Yujanin]

And still bad, not all crews on their tanks perform.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Yujanin

And still bad, not all crews on their tanks perform.

For some it is expensive.

[Yujanin]

For some it is expensive.

You convinced me)

[neri73-r]

Quote: Yujanin

For some it is expensive.

You convinced me)

And thank God!

[Yujanin]

It’s bad that there are no normal countries among the participants

What did Kuwait not please you with?

[abrakadabre]

I almost twisted the carrier from Kuwait to stand on the tracks. We need to practice more.

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: abrakadabre

I almost twisted the carrier from Kuwait to stand on the tracks. We need to practice more.

Verily! But you rarely see this ... Kuwait is a great tank power ...

[abrakadabre]

I liked the most in this video that, despite such a high lateral load, the track on the T-72 did not fly off.

[dvina71]

Quote: Samara_63

Bad that normal

Normal? go nuts .. what is going on with VO ..

[Doliva63]

"The general promised that the contests ... will become more spectacular. Female crews will take part in some of the tests."
And always in miniskirts! What other entertainment?

[prior]

For male teams, the form is "naked torso", for women 's "naked ass". For entertainment.

But did the military play their war games?
Real military training is different, it’s completely different.
Not to mention military exercises, for example, to repair and modernize ships and equipment, lift the PD-50 from the bottom, and clean up abandoned garrisons and landfills after themselves ...

[NEXUS]

Here is a story about a Soviet tanker who was told by an American marine.

[Doliva63]

Quote: NEXUS

Here is a story about a Soviet tanker who was told by an American marine.

I wonder what year? On the one hand, the T-54 with red stars, on the other - a German guide in Treptower Park, who brazenly and without consequences pours mud on the USSR. Does not fit. Fake.

[Fedorov]

Patriotism is a good thing! Pride in power and incentive to study equipment, dexterity, etc.
But how much does it cost when airfields, military schools (according to Banshee Roman Skomorokhov and not only) are not quite according to plan in the right form, ?? I’m not an all-round fan, but it’s worth considering.
Maybe "Serdyukovshchina was a cunning plan, but so far the opening is only beginning to emerge ... And I already see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[alekc75]

no one will say how much money it takes, sorry !!!

[lot]

I agree. This is a pity.
Toad also strangles his son with a melee.

[Spine]

In the "Tank Biathlon" may appear the night stage

The United States would have appeared there with Israel, that would be more interesting .. Until they sit back and shit from the underwear, as usual ..

[raw174]

Why do they need it? These games are not an indicator of the strength of the army, they only show the level of training of individual crews, in general, the show ...

[Spine]

Quote: raw174

Why do they need it? These games are not an indicator of the strength of the army, they only show the level of training of individual crews, in general, the show ...

Well, you can arrange duels Merkav, Abramsov and ours. Is it better to check in the game than when the battles begin? They are cowardly and rely on aviation and drones ..
Let's check in the air strike? The pride of the United States with Israel will destroy ..

[raw174]

Quote: Spine

Well, you can arrange a duel Merkav, Abramsov and ours

A duel, this is a convergence in the field, but the Americans do not need it either, because their concept of using a tank does not imply serious battles with enemy tanks, roughly speaking, if the T 90 cuts off Abrams (which is not an axiom at all), this does not mean that we are on the battlefield we will win ... Pampering is all and fun. And the same thing for airplanes, if we have a dozen or two over maneuverable aircraft and a dozen aces, we can take the upper hand on darts, but this does not mean that our VKS are stronger, because we have not dreamed of their novelty park yet ...

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Quote: raw174

These games are not an indicator of the strength of the army, they only show the level of training of individual crews, in general, the show.

Unfortunately, yes, the event, which was perfectly conceived with the aim of raising the overall level of ALL crews, turned into a showy show. And the reason is simple, that in fact (as the people involved told me) there is no qualifying stage in parts (only on paper). The command chooses a pair of the most prepared and intelligent crews (one main and one reserve in case of emergency) and begins to "roll in" and "train" them, while the rest are almost "slaughtered" for training. Therefore, "tank biathlon" turns out, which does not affect the GENERAL level of training of the crews of the Russian army.

[Lost heaven]

Well, if the participants who did not bring tanks with them again "for free" are given the old T-72b, then night shooting will become a good comparison of the capabilities of the old and new night sights, especially if they prohibit illuminating and turning on IR searchlights and do not multiply the distance to targets.

[dvina71]

Quote: Lost Heaven

Well, if the participants who did not bring the tanks with them again "for free" will be given the old T-72b

These T-72 sighting system Sosna-U..IK floodlights DEMOUNTED, as unnecessary ..

[Lost heaven]

by the way, you are right from 2018 for all b3, although for several years only ours spoke at them https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5251753

[dvina71]

Quote: Lost Heaven

by the way, are you right since 2018 for all b3

2015 ..

And only in 2013 were the T-72b .., but then it was an internal competition.

[bald]

The biathlon will undoubtedly be still spectacular - though, at the expense of shooting, we will not see everything, except for diode lighting for the towers from above, for shooting from above. Well, if also female crews !!! - Cool - I can imagine what a sight it will be!

[rayruav]

yes younger and harder

[bald]

Such ammunition will not be delivered to the tank, except perhaps by a support group.

[romb]

That would have not charged cars exhibited. And then, with a sly squint, they bashfully did not make excuses. Here then. And so ...

[dvina71]

Quote: romb

That would not have charged cars exhibited

Everyone’s cars are the same .., the preparation is different .. And even the T-90 didn’t help the Indians, and the Chinese lite is forever the second .. Because the Chinese built a copy of the Alabinsk test site .., but you had a copy of that ..

[romb]

Sure? You yourself in that ... believe
There, even the Russian media acknowledge this fact:

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201708070752-wuij.htm
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201711281457-j66r.htm

For example, among tankers of Kazakhstan, these "competitions" cause only a smile.

[dvina71]

Media such media ..
Quote from the article ..

In fairness, it should be noted that this year the Chinese tankers shoot in the same way as everyone else - with practical cumulative shells, and not with armor-piercing-submunitions, as in previous years. The fact is that firing armor-piercing-caliber projectiles (BPS), which have almost twice the flight speed compared to cumulative, at targets at the same range is much easier, since the BPS flight path is more laid out. This year, the chances of gunners almost leveled.

Vidio from the stage ..

At 2.23 the crew loads BOPS ... and how should I relate to the media after this? Some kind of pioneer organization ... sheer enthusiasm ..

[romb]

Well, here in general, if you look at it that way, these "games" are all a matter of prestige. And in this regard, it was initially clear with the Chinese. They did not hide their ambitions: both in terms of engineering solutions and technical capabilities of their industry, and in training their crews. But with

The cars are the same for everyone .., the training is different ..

here it is clearly not the way it was in reality. In fact, the Russians have a different, more powerful car - "pumped up". You will not deny this.
And for the Indians on the T-90, what can I say. Here - yes, it was clearly not a matter of technology. But rather in the training of crews. As these competitions showed, of these, tankers, in general, are not so hot. To kill such a machine, you still have to try ..

[dvina71]

Quote: romb

In fact, the Russians have a different, more powerful car - "pumped up".

No ... since the 15th year of all T-72B3M participants .. for everyone, except for those who brought their own ..
Here even here it is ..
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201708020843-mdci.htm..

[rayruav]

read the magazine equipment and weapons, including about this biathlon, the firing distance is known to everyone in advance 1800 m and with all ballistic calculators from the first shot few people get it, I don’t think up read about this window dressing to mine in 2017

[dvina71]

Quote: rayruav

everyone knows the firing range in advance 1800

The distance is definitely known. 1800m is the line .. on it targets are scattered with a difference of several tens of meters in range.
And yes .. this is a show-off .. If all foreigners are allowed to qualify for the Russian .. with night firing, ground ranges, in winter, using a UAV .. they will howl with good obscenities ..

[rayruav]

reaping man answered thanks

[rayruav]

and when women add in swimsuits, the percentage of hits will fall below the baseboard

[APASUS]

So I would play this card at the highest level. Putin would have invited the Germans, French, Americans to the tank biathlon to show his skills and the reliability of design decisions.
The refusal of countries can also be beaten in their favor, because the refusal must be well thought out, because it can be beaten like this, more than one buyer will not fit the tank anymore

[RL]

It will be better if they will compete only in their own tanks and with their own maintenance teams and fuel will be poured "from the same barrel." If this is interesting to the Russian Ministry of Defense, then let a penny be spent on transport services - equipment to Russia for competitions and for returning equipment to the places of deployment. In what percentage the penny will be - negotiate with the participants.
And the female crew? I see Israel, maybe China will scrape together, Russia, of course, it will gather and train for such a thing.
And, most importantly. Russian crews train on the tank biathlon field all the time and this is a great benefit for them. They know all the bumps, koldodyrins and water - they will go through everything on their own skin and rehearse "many, many times." Therefore, Russian crews must start with a certain minus points. Or drawing of polygons in the participating countries. It is the draw, not the rotation. And the lot is 35 days before the start and immediately to the cars. And if there are delays on the way from the country - the transport corridor and from the hosts of the competition - these countries have negative points. It is not necessary to travel across the ocean, and in Europe there are a lot of tank courses, and there are quite a few in China. Transportation will not be a hassle. From Israel, no problem, and the US from Germany, their old stuff, also no problem.
You can play summer and winter biathlon, and the best - autumn, under a shallow rain with snow. Spectators will only be very small, the idea will not pay off. And to foreign spectators in a simplified sports visa.
I dreamed, however.

[Aleks2048]

Very crazy with fun ...

Some trials will involve female crews.

In such or what?