Direct channel of communication with Khmeimim is now more important for the Israeli Air Force

On the eve, according to media reports, the Russian and Israeli soldiers agreed on the format of using a direct communication channel between Hmeimim Air Force Base in Syria and the Israeli command center of the air force. It was noted that only the timely use of this channel will help to avoid tragedies and other incidents in the airspace of Syria and on the approaches to it.

Against this background, the Israeli media stated that the “hot line” by the Israeli command was “always used in a timely manner”. In the case of the tragedy that befell the crew of the Russian IL-20, according to the Israeli side, the Russian military base was warned about the start of the operation of the Israeli Air Force more than an hour before the C-200 SAR air strike on the Russian Federation Air Force. Recall that the Russian Ministry of Defense accused Israeli pilots of provocation, due to the fact that one of the F-16 deliberately went for IL-20 while Syrians were using their air defense system. In addition, the Russian defense ministry notes that the start of the operation sent a signal to the special line from the Israeli command just a few minutes before the tragedy.

In general, each of the parties remains in its opinion. However, in Israel they do not hide the fact that now the situation for the IDF Air Force has seriously changed. And these changes are primarily associated with the appearance of the Russian anti-aircraft missile systems C-300 by the Syrian air defense forces. This is despite the fact that recently enough notes from the series could be seen in the Israeli press: “no C-300 will be able to prevent the Israeli Air Force from performing tasks related to the Iranian military presence in Syria.”

Russian experts note that there was an arrival of the Israeli delegation to Moscow, and not vice versa: the Russian - to Israel. This fact suggests that now the use of the very direct line of communication between the military of the two countries (a direct contract with Hmeimim) becomes more important for the Israeli Air Force. For obvious reasons, no one in the Israeli government wants to face a situation where the Syrians will shoot down an Israeli plane during attacks on Syrian territory from his side. Indeed, as a result of this, Israeli pilots may die.

In fact, it is now in the interests of the Israeli command to warn Russian colleagues about an air operation in order not to get the tragic result of “contact” with Syrian calculations of air defense systems, which by definition should be engaged in protecting their air borders.

Comments

[BAI]

no one in the Israeli government wants to face the situation when the Syrians knock down an Israeli plane during attacks on Syrian territory.

This will be the end of the export of this aircraft. As a product, its value will be zero. Here the States are more interested.

[voyaka uh]

Or the end of S-300 exports. They are vulnerable just like the Israeli F-16s.
Russia is also not interested in such a result. Therefore, peaceful contacts are useful to both parties.

[rayruav]

yes it’s clear that everyone is afraid of both yours and ours

[cniza]

Quote: voyaka uh

. Therefore, peaceful contacts are useful to both parties.

It has always been useful to everyone.

[Kent0001]

What are you really? then there’s nothing to get angry, but you have to sit quietly, well, if you are still afraid, then?

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports.

Yesterday we talked about this with Aron. C-300 is and so far with the Russian officers. So sit quietly on the pope. Better put up with Palestine. VKS gives you a full carte blanche

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Tusv

Yesterday we talked about this with Aron. C-300 is and so far with the Russian officers. So sit quietly on the pope. Better put up with Palestine. VKS gives you a full carte blanche

You might think this is the first Russian officers in the BV.
In general, until you and Ukraine again become friends, do not teach us how to live.

[Trol_2]

Offer us to be friends with Bandera? Who operated in "Babi Yar" and Mogilev ... Themselves seem to have become friends with them. https://vk.com/photo102290147_456239663

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports. They are vulnerable just like the Israeli F-16s.
Russia is also not interested in such a result. Therefore, peaceful contacts are useful to both parties.

Yeah. Why then put the S-300 ?!

[voyaka uh]

Missiles for the S-200 are no longer produced. And they are nearing Syria’s air defense. And the S-300 in Russia is decommissioned and replaced with the S-400. It is logical that the S-300 began to be delivered to Russia's allies and other customers.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: voyaka uh

Missiles for the S-200 are no longer produced. And they are nearing Syria’s air defense. And the S-300 in Russia is decommissioned and replaced with the S-400. It is logical that the S-300 began to be delivered to Russia's allies and other customers.

Israel was against it. Did not know or how?

[Major Yurik]

Israel is one of the few countries in the world where preliminary state censorship exists and where for the first time in history after Nazi Germany there is a ministry of state propaganda.

Therefore, it is futile to argue with our Jewish opponents, all of their references to their sources of Jewish factual coverage have been filtered and cleaned up for the good of the promised land!

[IAF]

Quote: Major Yurik

Israel is one of the few countries in the world where preliminary state censorship exists and where for the first time in history after Nazi Germany there is a ministry of state propaganda.

Therefore, it is futile to argue with our Jewish opponents, all of their references to their sources of Jewish factual coverage have been filtered and cleaned up for the good of the promised land!

Only by the freedom of speech rating of Israel at 100! points ahead of the Russian Federation. It does not somehow fit into censorship.

[Killemall]

Sorry, I’m embarrassed to ask, whose rating is this?

[Major Yurik]

Quote: KilleMall

Sorry, I’m embarrassed to ask, whose rating is this?

Ministry of State Propaganda of Israel!

[Krasnodar]

There is military censorship in Israel, of course. Otherwise, the press is anti-government a priori.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports. They are vulnerable just like the Israeli F-16s.

And are you 100% sure of that? Do you believe that the S-300 complex, which is in position, is not protected by anything? Naive.
Anyway, who gave you the right to strike at Syrian territory? Or is everything possible for the Jews based on their exclusivity?

[XXXIII]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports. They are vulnerable just like the Israeli F-16s.
Russia is also not interested in such a result. therefore peaceful contacts useful to both parties.

The contacts are as peaceful as before, they were afraid of nothing, the S-300 is not at all dangerous, its own ....

[Livonetc]

And the beginning of a serious increase in commercial supplies of C400.

[Kent0001]

Listen, warrior, it was your fault that our servicemen died - this is for reference, and then everything else. It’s a pity that Russia is not the USSR, otherwise your flymen and from the bases could not fly high.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Kent0001

Listen, warrior, it was your fault that our servicemen died - this is for reference, and then everything else. It’s a pity that Russia is not the USSR, otherwise your flymen and from the bases could not fly high.

We believe that your pilots died due to the fault of your ground services and lack of coordination with the Syrians, and the "blood libel" of your Defense Ministry is due to the desire of your generals to cover their own ass and avoid responsibility.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

your MO's "blood libel" stems from the desire of your generals to cover their own ass and avoid responsibility.

You're partly right about covering your ass. Only this does not change the fact that your "genius squadron commander" decided to hide behind our plane. Interestingly, and if it was a Pin-do-ssky reconnaissance plane, would yours be covered in the same way?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Misha Honest

Quote: Aron Zaavi

your MO's "blood libel" stems from the desire of your generals to cover their own ass and avoid responsibility.

You're partly right about covering your ass. Only this does not change the fact that your "genius squadron commander" decided to hide behind our plane. Interestingly, and if it was a Pin-do-ssky reconnaissance plane, would yours be covered in the same way?

The F-16 took cover behind the reconnaissance from the S-200 - this is the biggest stupid thing I've heard.
S-200 beats in speed, range and angle. If the F-16 is located more than 100 meters from Il, and along Konashenkov it was a few kilometers from the reconnaissance, then the angle is already different. Let's say slowed down. Let's say the Syrians did not shoot at range. The corner still remains - that is, where is the hide and seek here? The radar seeker is guided by the guidance beam, neither the size nor the temperature of the aircraft plays any role. In order to hit Ilu, it was necessary to spot two targets at the same time, which required a special talent, because IL and F-16 look completely different on radar.
In addition, what, 13 minutes after a successful attack, do the F-16 comezka at a large, unsafe height with entry into the SAR air defense strike zone ?? As a rule, after the attack, everyone goes down, on the smallest and rushes home in full steam. The story is far-fetched, Russian specialists spit on it ...

[Misha Honest]

If you accept your version of the events, it turns out that either the Syrians fired specifically at our plane. Or it turns out that the F-16 shot down our plane. Since you, as you say, deny cover or an accident, did I understand correctly?

Quote: Krasnodar

IL and F-16 look completely different on radars

By the way, do not a few F-16s (there were 3 or 4 of them like that) not shine on the radar as one big target?

[Krasnodar]

1) I will say what I think. There are two options:
The Israelis used electronic warfare, probably before the "hill" to attack and, most likely, after the attack, to go to the smallest. Perhaps, by such a label, it was lupanuli, and the IL fell into the backlight beam.
The second option is more banal - Il was mistaken for a jammer and lupanuli, glad that at least they saw something. I don’t think about the deliberate actions of the Syrians. About the intentional actions of the F-16 - too.
2) I do not think that 4 F-16s look like the only target on the radar.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Krasnodar

1) I will say what I think. There are two options:
The Israelis used electronic warfare, probably before the "hill" to attack and, most likely, after the attack, to go to the smallest. Perhaps, by such a label, it was lupanuli, and the IL fell into the backlight beam.
The second option is more banal - Il was mistaken for a jammer and lupanuli, glad that at least they saw something. I don’t think about the deliberate actions of the Syrians. About the intentional actions of the F-16 - too.

Honestly, such a hit is more a miracle (in the sense that the chance is almost zero ...) looks like it.

Quote: Krasnodar

2) I do not think that 4 F-16s look like one target on the radar

Well, the Americans confused the Japanese with their bombers on the radar during a raid on Pearl Harbor ... And do not say that the radars were old then ... The technology is the same, only the sensitivity has slightly improved. At least the S-125 and S-200

[Krasnodar]

What hit? From a distance of + -100 km of the S-200 m on a large airplane? Yes, in my opinion, it was a miracle to miss.
The fact that the Amers who did not have combat experience confused the Japanese with their own in 1941 is not surprising. The Syrians in 82nd from S-125, EMNIP, fired on a flock of cranes. What is something incomprehensible? How to distinguish a turboprop airplane on a radar from 4 jet flying in tight formation?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Syrians in 82nd from S-125, EMNIP, fired on a flock of cranes.

Then it is clear. I didn’t know about it ...

[Killemall]

yeah, expert ... we certainly don’t remember how the Ukrainian 5V28 lost the target and instead aimed at the passenger TU-154.

[Krasnodar]

Because the Tu 154 flew into the beam of guidance, or the Ukrainians captured the plane with the beam along with the target, and she immediately went to a larger signature. On its own, the S-200 missile in the air is not redirected.

[Killemall]

On its own, the S-200 missile in the air is not redirected.

yes ... and that is true ...
in the case of the Black Sea, the capture of the Tu-154 most likely took place, because the distance to the target was 28 km, and Tu was at a distance of 300.

[Krasnodar]

When a ray captures two, say, objects, then the rocket initially goes to a larger signature and this is logical, because in this case, the use of traps, the rocket will go to the plane.

[Trol_2]

Duc Americans and bungled this setup. And among the Israelis there are not many fools, and everyone understood how it could end. But since Israel is completely dependent on the United States, they cannot refuse them. And I had to take a chance, maybe ... It didn't carry over. Ha ha ha !!! I wanted to write instead of the word Americans the common word "p_n ___ s"! The auto editor leaves only the last letter "s". I tried it several times ... So soon the word Negro will not be allowed to write.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

We believe that your pilots died due to the fault of your ground services and lack of coordination with the Syrians

naturally. and what else do you consider? The US is sure that the Japanese are to blame for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: SanichSan

Quote: Aron Zaavi

We believe that your pilots died due to the fault of your ground services and lack of coordination with the Syrians

naturally. and what else do you consider? The US is sure that the Japanese are to blame for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

According to recent polls in Japan, some Japanese have already stated that the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was carried out by Russia (not the USSR), namely Russia.

[Pimply]

Quote: MKPU-115

According to recent polls in Japan, some Japanese have already stated that the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was carried out by Russia (not the USSR), namely Russia.

More, plz

[Trol_2]

Do not carry garbage. The IL-20 route was regular. Which is what the United States tracked. And then they carefully provided the Israelites with a lure in the form of a target on Iranian bases. Strongly indicating the time. IL-20 flew to itself as usual. When the crew saw the whole movement, he immediately crumpled the route and turned to land. All transcripts of conversations and locators were provided. It was necessary for them to fly further, for Israeli planes.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports. They are vulnerable just like the Israeli F-16s.
Russia is also not interested in such a result.

Vulnerable from the ground. But for this they have a security perimeter. But even the F-35 will not help you from the air ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports.

Well, for now, the United States is afraid to transfer the F-35 contractual provisions to Turkey, and Russia clearly adheres to its agreements on the supply of C400.
IMHO it is obvious who is afraid of the joint exercises of this air defense and aircraft

[Halado Romane]

Peace is generally better than war. However, it is the Jews who are going to Moscow and it is not a secret for anyone that it is the Jews who have long sought such contacts. So, who needs this, the first question is not worth it. Of course vulnerable and C 300. In general, any technique is vulnerable. It’s just that the Jews are very well aware that they will have to bury themselves from the sky regularly. Here is their race and hid away.

[Halado Romane]

Right! Total ambition left for quiet cons!

[Yeah]

I completely agree with you, but it is more interesting to me that the children of the promised land offered us that we would forget about our ...

[Polkanov]

... C300 is a kosher product, do not hesitate ...

[APASUS]

Quote: voyaka uh

Or the end of S-300 exports.

S-300s are no longer manufactured, which means I don’t export. Deliveries to Syria were from the existing air defense units with replacement for the S-400.

Quote: voyaka uh

Therefore, peaceful contacts are useful to both parties.

Peaceful contacts are useful to all parties and not even participating in battles, but you have only military and advisers with specific functions coming to Russia. Is this what peaceful contacts are for you?

[Machito]

It seems that F-35 banned flights in Syria. It's a pity if they hit an expensive plane. But reputation losses are even worse: S-300 advertising, F-35 anti-advertising.

[cniza]

We can only guess, but something is happening for sure.

[voyaka uh]

"It looks like the F-35 has been banned from flying ..." /////
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F-35s recently bombed a pro-Iranian Shiite police camp in eastern Syria.

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

F-35s recently bombed a pro-Iranian Shiite police camp in eastern Syria.

Yeah. In eastern Syria, the Shiite police are very close by, and Hizbala can finally stand on one leg because there is nowhere to enter the second leg. You yourself believe in your words

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: voyaka uh

F-35s recently bombed a pro-Iranian Shiite police camp in eastern Syria.

Yeah. In eastern Syria, the Shiite police are very close by, and Hizbala can finally stand on one leg because there is nowhere to enter the second leg. You yourself believe in your words

Hezbollah, Fatimune, Zaynabyun, the IRGC .. little?

[Machito]

Quote: voyaka uh

"It looks like the F-35 has been banned from flying ..." /////
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F-35s recently bombed a pro-Iranian Shiite police camp in eastern Syria.

Is there an S-300 in eastern Syria? Israeli planes bomb where there is no air defense.

[voyaka uh]

Israeli planes bombed loads from an Iranian plane at a military airfield in Damascus just a week ago. There, the density of air defense is one of the highest in the world. And it worked.

[Machito]

Quote: voyaka uh

Israeli planes bombed loads from an Iranian plane at a military airfield in Damascus just a week ago. There, the density of air defense is one of the highest in the world. And it worked.

Well, what is it proud of?
The fact that Israel is bombing Syria defeated by the civil war? It's like a drunken sick patient powerless old homeless with a baseball bat.
If you are so brave, declare war on Iran, and do not beat stealthily, like cowardly youngsters.

[Alexey-74]

The fact that you weren’t shot down is not the fault of the air defense, but some agreements.

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

Israeli planes bombed loads from an Iranian plane at a military airfield in Damascus just a week ago. There, the density of air defense is one of the highest in the world. And it worked.

Some say they bombed, others that shot down. Ours, that there was a raid and FSE. Not you killed or wounded, as usual Our media say To whom to believe Lech?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tusv

Some say they bombed, others that shot down. Who to trust then Lech?

No one.

[XXXIII]

Quote: voyaka uh

"It looks like the F-35 has been banned from flying ..." /////
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F-35s recently bombed a pro-Iranian Shiite police camp in eastern Syria.

Where is the official source of this information ??? or time?

[Halado Romane]

Is that what you learned from the Israeli media?

[Egorovich]

The Jews will still substitute, well, they can not honestly fulfill contracts, a priori can not.

[cniza]

Life will force and not everything will be done.

[Tusv]

Quote: Egorovich

Well, they can’t honestly fulfill the contracts, a priori they can’t.

They do not know how, by science, they cannot by force. Ancient folk military wisdom, widely distributed in the Russian troops

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: Egorovich

Well, they can’t honestly fulfill the contracts, a priori they can’t.

They do not know how, by science, they cannot by force. Ancient folk military wisdom, widely distributed in the Russian troops

Forcing Israel to do anything by military means is very problematic today. the quantitative and qualitative composition of the Jewish Armed Forces is quite solid and modern.
Here you need a whole combination of factors, such as:
1) Systematic attacks on the Israeli rear
2) Disproportionately large losses of their own civilians, widely covered in the Western media
3) Sensitive losses caused by the IDF
4) Economic leverage
That is, the first and second can be achieved by shelling from Gaza and Lebanon, and firing should be carried out, as usual, and from residential areas. Israeli rivals more important than success
Point three requires the entry of Jewish ground forces into Gaza, Lebanon and Syria - otherwise the loss of the IDF will be tolerable.
Point Four requires the involvement of the countries of the European Union, the United States and the developed countries of Asia. Most likely, only China will be able to agree on this, which is not critical for Israel. There may be some pressure from the European Union, but things will not come to full-scale sanctions.
Therefore, the event of forcing the Jews to do anything military requires quite serious tension from the diplomatic corps and the financing of terrorist groups. The purely military force of the regular troops is impossible to accomplish.

[Pimply]

Quote: Egorovich

The Jews will still substitute, well, they can not honestly fulfill contracts, a priori can not.

With you can argue Egypt and Jordan for example

[Hto tama]

Anyway, nothing but provocations should be expected from them.

[cniza]

It is quite, but not necessary, how their big brother will behave.

[Hto tama]

Their big brother is always in favor, all the more so now. The tension is growing, a big confrontation begins. The other thing is more interesting, namely where it will explode. The Matrauses more and more need a war, and preferably a big one.

[cniza]

It’s yes more, but not the world one, they don’t know how to organize it yet, all the scenarios lead to the world one and the last one, and this holds them back, but for now.

[Hto tama]

I am not sure that they do not know how to organize. There are no problems with the organization, the problem is that the remnants of sane people are "for now" against. The question is that there are fewer sane people left. You know, I agree with our propagandists from TV that the elites of the West are degenerating, it's easier according to Zadornov, they are stupid. I agree with Sheinin (1st channel) on this issue, they do not have a genetic memory of the war, we are afraid, so ??? I do not presume to speak for the entire American society, but the elites, they have degenerated ... you look at their faces, or rather their expressions, this is the Cabinet of Curiosities

[XXXIII]

It is noted that only the timely use of this channel will avoid tragedies and other incidents in Syrian airspace and on approaches to it.

Israel will not have time to warn in time about its planes in the sky, which means they will be shot down. That is exactly what the question was probably posed with an edge. Now Israel needs to speak on time, otherwise it will be an unpleasant situation. Let now risk their intractability and pride ....

[Hypersound]

Let them apologize and pay compensation to the relatives of the victims and Russia for the plane

[irazum]

Does Assad have money?

[Tusv]

Quote: irazum

Does Assad have money?

At the moment, We have money for the disposal of marmots. And Assad or another will have to

[irazum]

Will we write off the debts, as usual? For me, as a taxpayer and a citizen of the Russian Federation, it would be better for this money to be "written off" for health care, education, and retirement accounts of Russians.

[Tusv]

Quote: irazum

And debts, as usual, write off?

So, penalties and part of the interest are written off in exchange for preferences, and no one writes off the debt body, since the time of the rich Pinocchio Yeltsin

[Hypersound]

Speech, of course, about Israel

[voyaka uh]

Mossad can kidnap the Syrian major who launched the rocket into a huge slow-moving Il-20, and bring it to court in Russia.
Interview him yourself and determine his sentence.

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

Mossad can kidnap the Syrian major who launched the rocket into a huge slow-moving Il-20, and bring it to court in Russia.

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Lesha, Brezhnev promised you a nuclear strike on Tel Aviv, if that? Wait.

[voyaka uh]

Duc ... Brezhnev is dead?

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

Duc ... Brezhnev is dead?

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So what?

[voyaka uh]

I agree. Died Schummer ... if only he were healthy.

[irazum]

Is resurrected? Holy, holy ...

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

Duc ... Brezhnev is dead?

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Duc Brezhnev and the Jews let go home, to Israel, in the sense. And you are still afraid to see him.
PS Whoever puts a minus is a Jew.

[voyaka uh]

I put you two pluses for posts about Brezhnev.
You are a miracle!

[irazum]

And who is the plus? That Assad?

[Altona]

Quote: irazum

And who is the plus? That Assad?

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He is against the Israeli military.

[rayruav]

that I don’t remember such

[rayruav]

they didn’t shoot down, and if the qualification of our Syrian friends does not allow, let our operators sit

[Guru]

warn Russian colleagues about one or another air operation so as not to get tragic for themselves the result of "contact" with the Syrian air defense calculations

And what if they warned, then the Syrians will not shoot them down? Or will we again rub ourselves and bend like with the Su24?

[rayruav]

wiping has become our outwardly political brand, one pleases our swans over the Caribbean

[akims]

What is this talking about? The fact that Israel, as it bombed, will continue to bomb the territory of Syria. But now under the control of Russia. It has become much easier ...

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Well, then faith is still no Israel. Let them fly and look back ...

[rocket757]

Yes, at least ten arrivals and arrivals!
Anyway, this ..... well, how would I say, Schaub was not removed from the discussion again?
These guys, with a pei-pe-hairstyle like that, are vengeful without measure.
Of course, I’ll see what will happen and how, and then I will speak out about all the negotiators, from one side and the other!
The text is ready, because everything is clear and true!

[rotmistr60]

In general, each of the parties remains at its own opinion.

Which is natural, because Israel will never plead guilty. They are used to the fact that they have every right to act exclusively as they are profitable and necessary, and nothing else. And therefore, it is impossible to exclude another incident in the sky of Syria. The fact that they flew to Moscow for negotiations indicates a desire to exclude the possibility of their losses, but with attacks on Syrian territory. Let's see what happens.

[taiga2018]

how interesting it was for the "chosen of God" to go to bow to Moscow, because they used to bow only in Washington ...

[Alex Nevs]

The catch is not visible ... But! He is!

[voyaka uh]

As in a joke:
The trainer leads the crocodile to the circus, who plays the piano, and the kangaroo sings arias.
Checked - class!
The director of the circus paid a substantial advance and asks: "The catch is not visible ... But! He is!"
Trainer: "Okay, I'll split ... the crocodile plays and sings. But the kangaroo only opens its mouth to the beat."

[Professor]

Russian experts note that there was an arrival of the Israeli delegation to Moscow, and not vice versa: the Russian - to Israel. This fact suggests that now the use of the very direct line of communication between the military of the two countries (a direct contract with Hmeimim) becomes more important for the Israeli Air Force. For obvious reasons, no one in the Israeli government wants to face a situation where the Syrians will shoot down an Israeli plane during attacks on Syrian territory from his side. Indeed, as a result of this, Israeli pilots may die.

Of course. The Russian delegation would not have come to Israel even if it was a question of the life of the 1000 Russian military. After all, it is not a good thing for a great country to be so humble.

[Victorio]

[quote = professor] Indeed, as a result of this, Israeli pilots may die.

Of course. The Russian delegation would not have come to Israel even if it was a question of the life of 1000 Russian military. After all, it’s worthless for a great country to be so humiliated.
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give up, shekels and power, and not the possible death of Israeli pilots, cares your elite. however, it is not only with you

[Professor]

Quote: Victorio

give up, shekels and power, and not the possible death of Israeli pilots, cares your elite. however, it is not only with you

Do not judge others by yourself. Look better as Defense Minister Lieberman recently abandoned shekels and power.

Quote: Tusv

Well, so, the other day you are on a visit to us with a petition, not We to you

I have already written and will repeat. If our prime minister or any general can save the life of even one of our soldiers by crawling on his stomach in Moscow or elsewhere, then I will only be glad. For this we Bibi and chose. You do not understand this. Yours is the one who came to whom, and not how many lives of your soldiers were saved.

Quote: XXXIII

Why are you making up some kind of garbage here, this is a standard protocol of meetings, this is not a recording of conversations in private. There is a whole museum of such photos with a trolley, but this does not prevent you from breaking agreements and pretending to be "ostriches" ...

The fact is that yours didn’t even think of a delegation to equip to Israel. But it was your officers who died, not ours. Does it bother you that this could happen again?

[Victorio]

Quote: professor

Do not judge others by yourself. Look better as Defense Minister Lieberman recently abandoned shekels and power.

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so you don’t judge by yourself, the whole world dances according to your fucking rules, worshiping the golden calf

[Professor]

Quote: Victorio

Quote: professor

Do not judge others by yourself. Look better as Defense Minister Lieberman recently abandoned shekels and power.

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so you don’t judge by yourself, the whole world dances according to your fucking rules, worshiping the golden calf

Is this about our Bible? So think up your God for yourself, write yourself your Holy Scripture and go. Nobody bothers you.

[Tusv]

Quote: professor

Of course. The Russian delegation would not have come to Israel even if it was a question of the life of the 1000 Russian military. After all, it is not a good thing for a great country to be so humble.

Wow. Today, as many as two. And then we were angry yesterday why one Aron puffed
Well, so, the other day you are on a visit to us with a petition, not We to you
Just in case, I put a plus for both

[XXXIII]

Quote: professor

Of course. The Russian delegation would not have come to Israel even if it was a question of the life of the 1000 Russian military. After all, it is not a good thing for a great country to be so humble.

Why are you making up some kind of garbage here, this is a standard protocol of meetings, this is not a recording of conversations in private. There is a whole museum of such photos with a trolley, but this does not prevent you from breaking agreements and pretending to be "ostriches" ...

[Guru]

XXXIII (Vladimir)

pretend to be "ostriches" ....

This is probably a head in the sand and I'm not me, and the priest is not mine.
DANGEROUS non ostrich being

[Altona]

So it is necessary to establish a very simple rule that "airborne objects, whose presence in the sky is not declared one hour (or better, 4 hours) before the flight, will go astray without warning." And there is no need to shaggy grandmother here. It is quite a democratic measure. And here we are democrats, here we are patriots, here we are humanists, here we wrap up fish.

[IAF]

Quote: taiga2018

how interesting it was for the "chosen of God" to go to bow to Moscow, because they used to bow only in Washington ...

Some of your slavish perceptions of interstate relations. I suspect this mentality makes itself felt. Get well.

[Corsair0304]

The channel is definitely needed. At least in order for the war to end in Syria as quickly as possible. Then other people's planes in the sky will stop flying and air defense in their own thrash, and the cost of all this bodyagi will be reduced. But Israel should still compensate Russia for the loss of the Il-20, payments to the families of the dead crew. Otherwise, the whole thing seems to be unpunished.

[Altona]

Quote: Corsair0304

But Israel should still compensate Russia for the loss of IL-20, payments to the families of the dead crew. Otherwise, the whole thing seems to be unpunished.

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Well, here you need either a court decision or a guilty plea ... Who will do such a thing?

[Professor]

Quote: Corsair0304

But Israel should still compensate Russia for the loss of IL-20, payments to the families of the dead crew. Otherwise, the whole thing seems to be unpunished.

Why on earth? Il shot down your ally asad, sent him under fire your flight director. Ask them.
IMHO, the topic of compensation will never be raised by the Russian side, otherwise it will be necessary to present not cartoons and fairy tales about the fire on board, but material evidence. And with this, the Russian side was very tense. It’s not that the decryption of the black boxes was not shown to us, but they didn’t even show a single fragment of the plane.

[XXXIII]

Quote: professor

Why on earth? Il shot down your ally asad, sent him under fire your flight director. Ask them.

Just stick out your allied "snobel", there will be a flight director for you and ask them yourself, take a chance, they are waiting there for your brother as a dear guest .... In the name of our friendship, find a couple of F-16s there ....

[Guru]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)

We are not that the decryption of the black boxes was not shown, but not even a single fragment of the plane was presented

And what did you do off-request? If they did, then your media would probably have trumpeted it, but you don’t have to use the debris.

[Professor]

Quote: Guru

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)

We are not that the decryption of the black boxes was not shown, but not even a single fragment of the plane was presented

And what did you do off-request? If they did, then your media would probably have trumpeted it, but you don’t have to use the debris.

Have you, Russian taxpayers, been shown the wreckage? Maybe shooting from the funeral of the crew? Decryption of recorders? Anything?

Ours acted wisely without getting involved in public polemics with your MO and letting it save face in front of your audience. This is what made it possible to establish contacts.

[Forest]

And how much ostentatious pathos was and so quickly accepted the conditions of the Israelis, they did not even ask for compensation. Loud statements - the circus, and wandering.

[Jacques]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Anyway, who gave you the right to strike at Syrian territory? Or is everything possible for the Jews based on their exclusivity?

Israel and Syria have long been at war.

[rayruav]

I’m just wondering how these people would speak when they knew that a Nurs from an adjacent territory could fall on their child’s head

[rayruav]

where you actually came to the tan or the war, you can’t provide security and cover for sorties, but as far as I understand, there is every sortie sortie

[IAF]

Quote: Bearded

Quote: voyaka uh

Israeli planes bombed loads from an Iranian plane at a military airfield in Damascus just a week ago. There, the density of air defense is one of the highest in the world. And it worked.

Well, what is it proud of?
The fact that Israel is bombing Syria defeated by the civil war? It's like a drunken sick patient powerless old homeless with a baseball bat.
If you are so brave, declare war on Iran, and do not beat stealthily, like cowardly youngsters.

Well, yes, about how to enter the Crimea in the most difficult time for Ukraine without identification marks and trumpet "nastamnetu" to the whole world. Not at all on the sly. I’m already silent about the east of Ukraine, there, too, everything is not surreptitiously and have you declared war on Ukraine too?)))

[XiaoTou]

yes, you are a mentally undeveloped person .... would you say this to all your compatriots who lost loved ones in WWII from fascism burn you for it

[VVK_VDB]

And you do not create "hard" times. And do not say that it happened by chance - they flogged Svidomo for 25 years.

[IAF]

Quote: Guru

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)

We are not that the decryption of the black boxes was not shown, but not even a single fragment of the plane was presented

And what did you do off-request? If they did, then your media would probably have trumpeted it, but you don’t have to use the debris.

Petya wanted to hit Vasya, while drunk Petya brandished his fists, Vasya went home, and in the face he got Misha, who came to Vasya's place. Question. Why is Vasya an X-ray of Misha’s broken nose?

[K-50]

according to the Israeli side, the Russian military base was warned about the start of the Israeli Air Force operation more than an hour before the erroneous attack of the S-200 SAR on the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

When they always shamelessly lie. They themselves said before that one minute before the strike there was a warning. Now their own words have changed.
In general, believing a Jew is like entering a cow "cake" ..

[zlinn]

In addition to the RF Ministry of Defense, no one spoke about one minute more

[IAF]

Quote: K-50

according to the Israeli side, the Russian military base was warned about the start of the Israeli Air Force operation more than an hour before the erroneous attack of the S-200 SAR on the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

When they always shamelessly lie. They themselves said before that one minute before the strike there was a warning. Now their own words have changed.
In general, believing a Jew is like entering a cow "cake" ..

Who, besides your MO, was talking about a minute? For example, after taking pictures of a Ukrainian fighter jet that shot down a Boeing over the Donbass, your MO will never believe in my life ... A blatantly egregious attempt to deceive.

[arnulla]

Ha ..)) as if you are the standard who should be trusted)) Correct the cocked hat, it slides ...

[Strategy]

Yes, no one believes you for almost 2000 years after you sold and betrayed Christ on the death of the cross!

[IAF]

Quote: arnulla

Ha ..)) as if you are the standard who should be trusted)) Correct the cocked hat, it slides ...

We are in the standards and do not rush like. I'm more interested in what for the pictures were faked if the Russian Federation was not involved in Boeing. This causes some suspicion ...

[IAF]

Quote: XiaoTou

yes, you are a mentally undeveloped person .... would you say this to all your compatriots who lost loved ones in WWII from fascism burn you for it

But you shouldn’t lose your sense of tact; I don’t be rude to you, it seems. If you have nothing to answer on the merits, you'd better just shut up.

[forest park 86]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

We believe that your pilots died due to the fault of your ground services and lack of coordination with the Syrians, and the "blood libel" of your Defense Ministry is due to the desire of your generals to cover their own ass and avoid responsibility.

That's right, but our escort aircraft should have been only next to our IL. And they themselves are to blame, as well as with SU24.

[vitvit123]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Israel was against it. Did not know or how?

Like these comments. Not always quickly figure out what to answer.

[Polkanov]

Quote: voyaka uh

"It looks like the F-35 has been banned from flying ..." /////
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F-35s recently bombed a pro-Iranian Shiite police camp in eastern Syria.

... a fake to help you.

[Polkanov]

Quote: IAF

Quote: Bearded

Quote: voyaka uh

Israeli planes bombed loads from an Iranian plane at a military airfield in Damascus just a week ago. There, the density of air defense is one of the highest in the world. And it worked.

Well, what is it proud of?
The fact that Israel is bombing Syria defeated by the civil war? It's like a drunken sick patient powerless old homeless with a baseball bat.
If you are so brave, declare war on Iran, and do not beat stealthily, like cowardly youngsters.

Well, yes, about how to enter the Crimea in the most difficult time for Ukraine without identification marks and trumpet "nastamnetu" to the whole world. Not at all on the sly. I’m already silent about the east of Ukraine, there, too, everything is not surreptitiously and have you declared war on Ukraine too?)))

... keep quiet - for the clever one ...

[Polkanov]

Quote: professor

Quote: Corsair0304

But Israel should still compensate Russia for the loss of IL-20, payments to the families of the dead crew. Otherwise, the whole thing seems to be unpunished.

Why on earth? Il shot down your ally asad, sent him under fire your flight director. Ask them.
IMHO, the topic of compensation will never be raised by the Russian side, otherwise it will be necessary to present not cartoons and fairy tales about the fire on board, but material evidence. And with this, the Russian side was very tense. It’s not that the decryption of the black boxes was not shown to us, but they didn’t even show a single fragment of the plane.

... you can only show a fig.

[VVK_VDB]

Well, in general, Israel is given the go-ahead. Which of ours is next?

[Vlad5307]

In fact, it is now in the interests of the Israeli command to warn Russian colleagues about an air operation in order not to get the tragic result of “contact” with Syrian calculations of air defense systems, which by definition should be engaged in protecting their air borders.

They should not warn, but ask permission to strike, because otherwise they will be lost not only by Syrian calculations, but also ours. :: soldier

[IAF]

Quote: Vlad5307

In fact, it is now in the interests of the Israeli command to warn Russian colleagues about an air operation in order not to get the tragic result of “contact” with Syrian calculations of air defense systems, which by definition should be engaged in protecting their air borders.

They should not warn, but ask permission to strike, because otherwise they will be lost not only by Syrian calculations, but also ours. :: soldier

Well, this is aggression towards Israel with all the consequences. I am afraid in this case, within 15 minutes from the Russian group in Syria, horns and legs will remain.