Grand Duke Lithuanian Keystut

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Keistut was the Grand Duke of Lithuania for only a year. Prior to that, he was the de facto co-regent of his brother, Olgerd. Keistut's life is an endless war. And both with external enemies, and with internal. His main battle with Jagiello Keystut still lost. He was captured by deception and strangled. But Keistut's son, Vitovt, after some time managed to take the Lithuanian throne.

Thanks to the feats of arms, nobility and marriage with Biruta, Keistut is one of the main and favorite heroes of the entire Lithuanian people. And even German historians admired him, speaking of him as a real knight. By the way, Keistuta can be seen on the monument “The Millennium of Russia” in Veliky Novgorod. The Grand Duke is depicted on the lower tier (frieze) in the section “Military People and Heroes” (north-eastern side).



Sons of Gediminas

When Keistut was born, it is not exactly known. It is believed that approximately in 1297 year. His father was the Grand Duke of Lithuania Gedimin (his image, by the way, is also on the monument "The Millennium of Russia" on the lower tier in the section "State People"). Since Keistut had several brothers, he received from his father a narrow and long strip of territory adjacent to the lands of the Teutons and Mazovia. Under the rule of Keistut, they were: Samogitia, Troki, Grodno and Berestye. With such a “startup”, Keystut entered the global arena.

If Gedymin had enough strength and authority to keep power in the principality only in his hands, then after his death the situation in the state changed dramatically. The system that worked under the prince simply collapsed because of the large number of applicants for the throne. During the first years of centralized power there did not smell, because the heirs of the Grand Duke could not agree and turned their land into independent inheritances. Although formally the grand duke in the state was, and its capital was the city of Vilna (the grand duke's inheritance). Here he sat on the throne of Evnuty, the youngest son of Gediminas. But none of the brothers considered him, preferring to remain independent with an independent political course (which is internal, that external). It happened that the brothers entered into short-term alliances beneficial to each other. But more often they still preferred to do without the intervention of relatives. This applied to interactions with neighboring states. Even the military campaigns no one agreed with Euntie. In general, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was fragmented with very vague prospects.

Keistut understood that, individually, they were all tidbits for numerous opponents. Therefore, he tried to keep the course, if not to unite, but at least on allied relations with relatives. Therefore, when Monwid (another one of the brothers) got involved in a confrontation with the knights, he supported him. But not by living force, but diplomatically. After several victories (the Germans were not only driven out of Zhmudi, but also suffered a series of defeats on their territory) Monvid sat down at the negotiating table with Master Ludolf Koenig von Wanzau (the twentieth grand master of the order). And in this he was supported by Keystut and Olgerd (another brother). In general, diplomacy was one of Keystut's strongest sides. He managed to negotiate with the Poles that they release another of his brothers, Lyubort, and also managed to conclude a trade agreement with England. But Kestut did not forget about the war either. He periodically formed a company to his relatives during the raids on Mazovia, took part in the defense of Pskov against the Livonian knights (together with Olgerd).

Grand Duke Lithuanian Keystut

Prince Keystut on the Monument "1000 Anniversary of Russia" in Veliky Novgorod


As the situation with the onslaught of the knights became more and more dangerous, the Lithuanian princes were faced with a choice: either to unite efforts to fight, or to become their victims one by one. True, not all the sons of Gediminas were able to pacify their ambitions and agree with the others. Above the Lithuanian state there was a threat of rapid absorption by the German knights. But this did not happen, because the two most intelligent and influential sons of Gediminas, Olgerd and Keystut, understood that unity was necessary for victory. And they began to act. In 1345, Keistut occupied Vilna, which belonged to Eunutia. The younger brother could not prevent this, and the population of the city met the new government loyally. Having achieved success, Keystut gave the capital Olgerdu, that is, inviting him to a great reign. The brothers clearly distributed their responsibilities. Olgerd took over the eastern frontier. He developed relations with Russia and tried to gather under his power fragmented Russian principalities. Keistut also “plowed” in the west, defending the interests of Lithuania and the Sneak. The Crusaders walked in his opponents - the enemies were cunning and ruthless, but He knew and knew how to open German "cans". The diarchy that prevailed in Lithuania was at that time ideal for the state (Vitovt and Yagailo later adopted the same policy of dual rule).

Lithuania regained its strength. And in the 1350 year after successful hostilities, she managed to regain the lost Brest and Volyn. And for a short time even captured Lviv. But the sticks in the wheels suddenly decided to insert the Polish-Hungarian troops. They attacked Brest, Vladimir-Volynsky and Belz. Keistut, of course, was on the front line. He was well aware that he did not have enough strength to withstand a powerful and well-equipped opponent. Therefore, I went to a diplomatic trick. He alone went to the camp of Hungarian soldiers, located near the town of Melnik. Here Keistut met with the King of Hungary Louis. Naturally, when he saw the Lithuanian prince, he was very surprised. But he did not kill him; instead of bloodshed, he invited him to the negotiating table. Keystut told Louis that he would definitely accept the Christian faith if he would withdraw the troops. The Hungarian king, knowing full well about his opponent’s eloquence, questioned the sincerity of the words of the Lithuanian prince. And then Keistut took an oath according to the custom of the pagans. The prince chopped off the ox's head, and then washed his face and hands with his blood. To swear according to the pagan rite that he would accept Christianity - only Keistut could go for it. Louis appreciated the deed of his Lithuanian "colleague". They made peace, and the Hungarian king invited Keistut to come over for baptism. The prince agreed. But at the first opportunity he ran away and remained faithful to his ancestors. Most likely, Louis realized that this was the end of their voyage. Therefore, it did not come as a surprise to him.

But not always Keistut managed to get away from the water. In 1360, he was taken prisoner during a regular battle with the Crusaders. They did not kill him, the Germans knew that the enemy could be profitably exchanged. Therefore, Keistut had no choice but to just sit and wait. Some time after the liberation, the Lithuanian prince again fell into the steel gloves of the Teutonic knights. As a particularly valuable prisoner, he was sent to prison at Marienburg Castle. According to legend, Keystut offered the knight, who defeated him and money, and power, but he refused the "bribe". In prison, the Lithuanian prince did not stay long. It turned out (again, according to the legend) that one of his guards was a representative of the Lithuanian tribes who had gone over to the side of the knights. It is not known what and how exactly Keistut managed to convince the “prodigal son” to reconsider his views on life, but he agreed to help the prisoner. Soon the Lithuanian prince was released and managed to get to Mazovia.

Struggle for power

The co-rule of Olgerd and Keystut ended in 1377. Olgerd died, and he chose Jagiello, his son from his second marriage with Juliana Tverskaya, as his successor. Naturally, the son of his first marriage, Andrei Polotsky, decided to challenge the decision of his late father. But he did not find support, as Keystut and his son Vitovt supported Jagiello.

Keystut's seal, 1379 year

The winter of 1378 of the year began for Lithuania with the next invasion of the Crusaders. And at first success was on the side of the Livonians. They managed to reach Berestya and discovered their way to Vilna. The situation demanded an urgent settlement. Another Gediminovich decided to take on the role of the first violin, Skirgalo, who was Jagiello's sibling. He met with the Master of the Livonian Order, discussed the situation of the current military conflict, the possible ways of the Christianization of the pagan population of the Lithuanian lands, and at the same time asked to stop helping the fight for the throne, Andrei Polotsky. What exactly success Skirgalo has achieved is unknown for sure. By the way, there is a version that from the Livonians, he went to an audience with the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. If this voyage did take place, then reliable information about it was not preserved. True, many historians believe that Skirgalo’s trip to European “partners” is the first intrigue of young Olgerdovichs behind Keistut. The old prince himself did not know anything about it, so he went his own way. At the end of September 1379, Keistut was able to negotiate with the knights to end the war. And in Troka a peace agreement was signed. And in that procedure was present and Jagiello. In fact, it was the last contract, which was signed jointly by Keystut and Jagiello. After that, their, let's say, political paths diverged. It is curious that almost immediately after the contract, Jagiello began to weave his own intrigue web. Moreover, he held negotiations with representatives of the Crusaders on his territory - in Vilna. As a result, they concluded an agreement under which the Germans pledged not to touch the southern and eastern lands of the Grand Duchy, since they were Christian. But the security of the rest of the (pagan) territory the Germans could not guarantee. That is, Jagiello, in fact, defended his ancestral lands, substituting the land of Keistut and other relatives.

Then Olgerd's son committed another very controversial act. If Keystut did not know about the treaty with the crusaders, news that his widowed niece, Maria, was married to adviser Yagailo Voydilo, could not get past him. And Keistut, as they say, exploded. The fact is that Vodilo was a commoner. Once he worked as a baker, and then successfully "flowed into the stream." It is not known what and how Vodilo managed to impress first Olgerd, and then Jagiello, but the latter, along with his niece, handed him to the board and the city of Lida. Keistut in every way demonstrated his dismissive attitude towards the “serf”, however, this did not work on Jagiello. Therefore, when the old prince found out about his marriage, he was greatly offended, considering that Olgerd’s son decided to challenge him with this act.

While Keistut was busy with pressing affairs in his lands and in every way he lamented the power that fell on Vodilo’s head, Yagailo started another tricky deal with the crusaders. Not having informed the old prince, he first took Polotsk by force from his brother Andrew, who constantly, if I may say so, got confused under his feet. Then Jagiello concluded another truce with the Livonian Order (February 1380), and then began to seek a meeting with the great Master of the Teutonic Order, Winrich von Kniprode. The audience with the head of the Crusaders ’head office took place at the end of May of the same year. Jagiello and von Kniprode concluded a secret Dovidishkovsky treaty. The details of this agreement are not known for certain. The remaining information says that Jagiello, as usual, protected himself and his lands from foreign invasion. At the same time, the non-aggression treaty did not apply in the Keystut area. That is, von Knippe could fight with him. Such a nuance is curious: if the old prince, if necessary, turned to Jagiello for help, he could not refuse, in order to avoid suspicion of collusion with the Germans. In general, the son Olgerd spun as he could in the pan of the political arena. There is a version that Jagiello perfectly understood the complexity of the situation at the borders of his country. Europe was actively developing, and no one would have thought to doubt the power of the Christian faith. And therefore, every year it is becoming more and more difficult for the pagans to defend their usual way of life. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania also required changes. In the form in which it went to Jagiello to preserve sovereignty was not real. For all his valor, Keistut, in the eyes of the young prince, looked like an archaic bogatyr who did not want (or could not) change along with the whole of Europe. Therefore, Jagiello and weaved networks of intrigue, trying not to leave the old prince, stuck in the past.


Sculpture "To you, Biruta"


In the new 1381, the German knights appeared on the territory of the old prince. They confidently advanced to Troki using bombers. Despite active resistance, the Lithuanians retreated. Particularly affected by the invasion inhabitants Zhemantii. The interesting thing is this: while the war was going on with Keistut, Günther Goenstein, a commander of Osterode, met. The knight told the prince about intrigues behind his back: “You don’t know that Prince Great Yagailo often sends us Logies, and already conspired with us how to bring you down from your reigns.” There are two versions why the commander decided to tell Keistut about it. The first is that the knights, of course, benefited from a full-fledged civil war in the Grand Duchy. Because they would certainly be able to take advantage of civil strife with the maximum benefit for themselves. The second version is more, let's say, humane. Since Goenstein and Keystut were friends (German was the godfather of Danuta, daughter of the old prince), the German decided to do a favor and warn him. Naturally, Keistut hesitated. On the one hand, he did not want to believe in the betrayal of his nephew, on the other - to ignore the words of the commander, too, was impossible. Therefore, the prince told about everything to his son Vitovt. However, he took the side of Jagiello and said: “I don’t believe that, I don’t think it was so, because he lives in friendship with me, and would have told me.”

Jagiello, meanwhile, helped his main ally Skirgalo in suppressing the uprising in Polotsk. And the Crusaders took direct part in this matter. This angered Keystuta and he told Vitovt about dissatisfaction with Jagiello’s policy: “He had inflicted great damage on me before, gave my niece, and my sister for being a slave, I know well that now he has colluded with the Germans against us; and the third: we are at war with the Germans for the third time, and he with them Polotsk extracts, which belongs to my son, and to your brother, Andrey Gorbaty. This is the second sign of his dislike for us. This already clearly shows that they, together with the Germans, have become against us. ” But Vitovt remained unconvinced. He did not want to believe that Jagiello is capable of betrayal.

Since the support of his son failed to enlist, Keistut decided to act independently. And while Jagiello suppressed the rebellion in Polotsk, he struck. And at first the old prince went to the trick. He led the troops to Prussia, but then abruptly turned them on Vilna. Vitovt was against the conflict with Jagiello, so he did not take part in that maneuver. Vilna, who did not wait for the war, was defenseless before the army of the old prince. And the city was in his hands, as well, by the way, as was Yagailo himself, who was captured. In Vilna, Keystut also found confirmation of the words of the commander (and his suspicions) in the form of a Dovidishkovsky agreement. Soon Vitovt arrived in the city. Despite the evidence of the betrayal of Jagiello, it was he who contributed to the fact that the old prince did not execute his nephew. In general, for the intrigue Jagiello managed to get rid, by and large, only a slight fright. The only thing that Jagiello had to really pay off was because of his own power. Keistut demanded from him to declare himself in writing to be the Grand Duke of Lithuania. Since the prisoner had no choice, he did it.

Soon Jagiello was released. The noble and generous prince (it is clear that under the influence of Vitovt) gave his nephew Krevo and Vitebsk, that is, his original location. Left alone, the authority of Keystut recognized Skirgalo, after which he lifted the siege from Polotsk. And Andrew returned to his patrimony. True, he previously acknowledged the power of the old prince. All other relatives followed the same example. Having established himself on the Lithuanian throne, Keystut established relations with the Moscow principality, making territorial concessions.

Having secured himself, the grand duke took up the crusaders. Having performed several successful operations, the Lithuanians reached the shores of Alla and Pregel. The Germans, of course, attempted to strike back by ravaging the lands of Keystut. But their onslaught was repelled by the troops of Vitovt. And if the situation in the external arena developed for the Grand Duke successfully, then on the inside there was a serious crisis. The overwhelming majority of Keystut's relatives, although he recognized him as Grand Prince, were displeased with the situation in the country. Each of them wanted a “special” relationship. The first to "the path of war" came Prince Koribut, who was sitting in Novgorod-Seversky. Vodilo, who was at the origins of the rebellion, planned to turn everything up with the maximum benefit for himself and further strengthen his influence on the grand throne. But the plans were not destined to come true. He was captured and soon executed. This, in fact, Keystut's success and ended. At first, his army was defeated by the army of Coribut, and then a new insurrection broke out already in Vilna. The uprising was led by a local merchant Ganul, who managed to unite not only the supporters of Jagiello, but also initially neutral traders. The fact is that Keystut introduced a number of serious restrictions on trade with the Germans, which caused anger in the vast German community of the city. True, there is a version that the rebellion was planned and organized directly by Jagiello himself, and Ganul, like the community, became only a tool in his hands. Since Keistu's positions remained weak in Vilna, the insurgents quickly managed to capture him and killed the entire garrison. Vitovt tried to intervene in the case, but his attempt ended in failure. He was defeated under Vilna and returned to Troki. And Jagiello freely occupied the capital. Soon, the Teutonic Crusaders, commanded by Marshal Konrad Gattenstein, came to the aid of the young prince. They headed towards Troki from the north, and Yagailo (along with Skirgalo) advanced to the main city of Keistut from Vilna. Vitovt understood that he alone could not cope with such formidable opponents. Therefore, together with his mother left the city. And soon the Troki were taken, and Jagiello gave the town of Skirgalo. After this, the Crusaders, having reached the goal, returned home.

Keystut arrived in Grodno, where he met with Vitovt. First of all, he sent his wife to Beresten, and then began to think through a plan of action. There was only one way out for him - to go to Zhemantiya and recruit a new army there. And assistance to the military campaign was to be provided to him by Vitovt with the army from Grodno and the only ally Lyubart from Volyn. The pagans were not eager to get involved in an internecine war and take sides. But Keistut put pressure on the most painful point of the Samogitians - their faith. He predicted their Christianization in the event of the victory of Jagiello.



In early August, 1381, the army met at Troc. Despite Keystut’s best efforts, he was unable to gather an army equivalent to the forces of Jagiello and his allies. Therefore, the outcome of the battle was known to everyone in advance (first of all because of the Samogitians, who, although they stood under the banner of Keystut, were not going to die for it). It did not come to a full-fledged battle. Skirgalo arrived at the camp to the old prince. First, he met with Vitovt and convinced him to begin negotiations, they say, why waste blood, if everything can be settled through diplomacy. And he agreed to influence his father. After listening to them, Keystut made, in fact, the only wrong decision in his life - to start negotiations with Yagailo in his nephew's camp. At the same time, Skirgalo on behalf of Jagiello gave the old prince security guarantees. But of course there were no negotiations. As soon as Keistut and Vitovt appeared in the camp of the enemy, they were captured. A few days later, the old prince died. According to the official version, which was promoted by Jagiello, Keystut himself committed suicide. But few people believed this legend. The entire princely elite of Lithuania was convinced that Keystut's blood was in Jagiello’s arms.

The old prince was buried in Vilna, and according to the pagan rite. Together with the body of Keistut, his horses, cannon and jewels were burned on the funeral pyre. This is how one of the most powerful and influential Lithuanian princes passed away. About which even his opponents responded well. For example, in the chronicles of the Teutonic Order, the following record was preserved: “Keistut was a warlike and truthful husband. When he conceived of a foray into Prussia, he always informed the Marshal of the Order beforehand about it and was sure to come later. If he made peace with the master, then he kept it tight. If he considered any of the brethren our man to be brave and courageous, then he would give him a lot of love and honor. ” But what the Pole Jan Dlugosh wrote: “Keistut, although a pagan, was a valiant husband: among all the sons of Gedimin, he was distinguished by prudence and resourcefulness, and, most of all, he was honored, he was educated, humane and truthful in words.”

Unlike his father, Vitovt managed to avoid a sad fate. He managed to escape. True, his mother, Birute, had to pay for this with his life. Wiegand of Marburg wrote that after the escape of Vitovt Biruta and her two brothers were killed. Keistut's son turned for help to Janusz Mazowiecki - Danuta's husband. But Janusz refused. Vitovt heard the same answer from Zemovit Plotsky. And then, being in a hopeless situation, he turned for help to the Teutonic Order.

After these events in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, civil war began again. It lasted until the year 1389. And German knights took direct part in all those events. In the end, in the last civil war, Vitovt was stronger. An agreement was concluded between him and Jagiello on favorable terms for both. So Vitovt became the Grand Duke, and Jagiello - the supreme. Diarchy lasted until the year 1430, when Vitovt died.

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Now - a few words about Birut. To avoid the side of his wife Kaystut impossible. The fact is that after death, she was worshiped as a goddess (an analogue of a Christian saint). It is not known exactly which tribe originated from Biruta. According to some data from Samogitians, on the other - from kurons. But it is known that she was a priestess (vaidelotka) and guardian of the sacred fire of the Lithuanian pagan gods.

According to legend, Biruta, as a worshiper, could not marry. However, Keystut had a different opinion. He kidnapped the girl, spitting on her vow of celibacy. They settled in Troki and played a magnificent wedding. And Vitovt was Keystuh’s fourth son.


Chapel on Biruta Hill, end of 19 century


As mentioned above, after the flight of Vitovt, Jagiello won back on Birutė. True, there is a version that the woman did not die then, but returned to her sanctuary, where she lived for several more years, worshiping pagan gods. One way or another, after the death of Biruta among the pagans, her cult gained great strength. Interestingly, in 1989, on top of a hill in Palanga, named after Keistut’s wife, archaeologists discovered remains of a shrine dating from the fourteenth to fifteenth centuries. After the Christianization of Lithuania, the sanctuary of Biruta was destroyed, and the chapel of St. George appeared in its place. It, by the way, has been preserved to our days.
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  1. +2
    13 December 2018 06: 08
    "By the way, Keistut can also be seen at the Millennium of Russia monument in Veliky Novgorod. The Grand Duke is depicted on the lower tier (frieze) in the Military People and Heroes section (north-eastern side)."
    Is this the same monument where there is no Ivan the Terrible? Although ... And who is he, this John for the German-Lithuanian Romanovs?
    1. 0
      13 December 2018 08: 25
      Quote: pafegosoff
      And who is this John for the German-Lithuanians of the Romanovs?

      This is all the Russian intelligentsia to blame, its individual representatives, who determined who to include and who not, the Romanovs have nothing to do with this. There was generally a lot of confusion, a lot of opinions and disagreements on such issues.
    2. +1
      14 December 2018 01: 01
      Quote: pafegosoff
      Is this the same monument where there is no Ivan the Terrible? Hot

      Yeah, that's weird. but it’s even more strange to see Keistut on this monument, he has nothing to do with collecting the Russian Land under the scepter of Moscow.

      Personally, I liked most of all the seal of this prince given in the text - a beautiful original image of a late medieval Lithuanian warrior in armor.
    3. 0
      14 December 2018 10: 37
      Well, in fact, Oleg the Prophet is not there either.
  2. +1
    13 December 2018 06: 11
    Names of places should be called modern language! At least in brackets.
    1. +1
      13 December 2018 15: 19
      Quote: Theodore
      At least in brackets.

      Vilnius - Vilnius, Troki - Trakai, Berestye - Brest. Grodno remained Grodno. Pregel River = Pregolya
      1. 0
        13 December 2018 19: 16
        Mazovia? Where?
        1. 0
          13 December 2018 21: 17
          Quote: Theodore
          Mazovia? Where?

          Do you know Warsaw? Then it was the capital of sovereign Mazovia!
          1. +3
            13 December 2018 21: 34
            Let's just say, Warsaw at that moment was a seedy little town.
        2. +1
          13 December 2018 21: 21
          Mazovia is a historical region in Central Poland, and it was 700 years ago, and now it is.
  3. +4
    13 December 2018 06: 50
    The article is good, but somehow without the "spark of God". About werewolves, pirates and maniacs, the author turned out more fascinating.
    1. +6
      13 December 2018 14: 20
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      The article is good, but somehow without the "spark of God".

      In my opinion, you are too strict, Anton.
      It is much easier to write about any criminal-mystical public: there is always a certain detective, mysterious component that attracts and even more, attracts the reader's attention. Historical personalities, for example, Keistut, in contrast to "pirates and maniacs", as a rule, are boring people. That is why, it seems to me, such a difference in the perception of articles - the author has absolutely nothing to do with it.
      Keistut was an outstanding warrior, a born leader - a bold, resolute and charismatic, nothing more. Of course, a certain romantic flair with his personality is present, perhaps this was the reason for the choice of this hero by the author, but his life (indecently long for a warrior who personally led the squad and took direct part in the battles until his last days) boring and monotonous: hiking, skirmishes, battles, short periods of rest, feasts, hunting, hiking again. Keistut had too many things in his life, so much that it became a chore and was of no interest, because it was the same from year to year. Year after year: Knightly raises to Lithuania - ten villages were burned, 500 people were killed, 300 was gone, then Keistut's return campaign - 10 farms were burned, 500 people were killed, 300 was killed, two knights were caught and burned alive. Every five years - a big raise by the Crusaders or a campaign of the Lithuanians with sieges and a battle in which the Crusaders alternately defeated, then Olgerd with Keistut. Depending on the outcome of the battle, either Lithuanian villages or German farms are burning in a few large quantities.
      The author should be commended for carefully collecting all the facts known to historians that could revive the story about the hero of the article and not his fault that, despite the hectic and long life of the hero, such facts remained regrettably small.
      1. +4
        13 December 2018 15: 29
        I have already discussed this subject with WikNick. Air, money and text should be easily inhaled and exhaled. Ryzhov’s doing it!
    2. +2
      13 December 2018 17: 33
      Anton, perhaps there was not enough dynamism here. However, I "ate" and then began to analyze "what is missing in the soup?" (Remember: "Culinary College")
      1. +3
        13 December 2018 21: 47
        Svyatoslav, I have been interested in this era in the history of the region for a long time, I know everything stated by the author (however, as well as the information of his many other articles of his, in particular, on the subject of "werewolves-pirates-maniacs"), which allows me to critically evaluate literary qualities of the text.
  4. +2
    13 December 2018 09: 06
    But in the case of the collection of Russian lands real competitor of Moscow?
    1. +6
      13 December 2018 14: 32
      Quote: Adjutant
      But in the case of the collection of Russian lands real competitor of Moscow?

      More than. Start Gedemin, or even Olgerd at the beginning of the reign, profess Orthodoxy, there were real prospects that they and their descendants would have eaten Rurik one by one, and that Russia would accept their power, the Gedeminovich dynasty would be able to strengthen, inevitably Russified and nothing had changed would. smile
      1. +2
        13 December 2018 21: 52
        And a great answer!
    2. +2
      13 December 2018 21: 52
      Great question!
  5. 0
    13 December 2018 09: 33
    water again to someone else’s mill, he was not Lithuanian, but Litvin spoke Russian and this is a question that does not have a clear answer why they went under the Poles
    1. +2
      13 December 2018 10: 59
      But didn’t he speak Lithuanian? And in our time in Lithuania, many people speak Russian, especially the older generation. But his name is pagan Lithuanian, but not Orthodox, which is understandable, because by faith he is a Lithuanian pagan and by origin is not a Slav.
      1. 0
        13 December 2018 11: 06
        you know, I’m especially arguing I won’t be at the prince’s expense, but it’s certain that the main population of the principality was Slavs
        1. 0
          13 December 2018 17: 07
          In the empire of Alexander the Great, the Macedonians made up a fraction of a percent of the population.
    2. +6
      13 December 2018 12: 29
      Quote: rayruav
      he was not a Lithuanian, but a Litvin

      These terms - Lithuanian, Lithuanian, Lithuania (not as a state, but as a people) can be discussed for a long time. If we take the "Word about the death of the Russian land", then there the concept of "Lithuania" is used precisely as the name of the people, among others, surrounding Russia. It is clear that the concept "Litvin" in this context will mean precisely a representative of this people, according to the author of "Lay", different from the Russian people to the same extent as the Poles and Germans, and Mordovians and Cheremis.
      There is an opinion that the name "Litvin" began to spread among the subjects of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania who were not ethnic Litvin in the XNUMXth - XNUMXth centuries. after the baptism of Lithuania, they distinguished Catholics (Lithuanians) from Orthodox (Rusyns). The term "Lithuanian" is much later and most likely has nothing to do with the period under review.
      In any case, Keistut, being a Lithuanian, spoke Lithuanian, believed in Perkūnas and was an opponent of Christianization. He, of course, also knew Russian and spoke his language fluently, as well as in German.
      Quote: rayruav
      Here's a question for which there is no clear answer why they went under the Poles

      You probably did not try to study this question in detail. In fact, there were no particular difficulties in this matter. If the Russian dynasty of Rurik would have dried up by the end of the XIV century, and not the XVI, the gedeminovichs would gladly replace them throughout the territory of Russia and become Orthodox. But Rurik felt at this time themselves relatively well, unlike the Polish Piast, who just ended and had to look for a replacement for them. Jogaila was offered to become the Polish king in exchange for the baptism of Lithuania and its unification with Poland. Who would refuse? True, having become the Polish king, Yagailo completely lost Lithuania to Vitovt, where the latter became the absolute master, nominally submitting to the King of Poland, and in fact possessing much greater power, but these are details.
      In addition to the desire to gain the Polish crown on Khalayav, Yagailo's choice, of course, was also influenced by numerous objective (economic, political, ideological) factors, both for baptism according to the Orthodox and the Catholic rite. But they balanced each other sufficiently so that the proposal to the Lithuanian prince of the Polish crown could be decisive.
  6. +1
    13 December 2018 10: 51
    Very interesting, Dear Pavel.
    And I give preference, personally, to Ivan the Terrible. He began the development and development of new territories for Russia.
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      13 December 2018 16: 37
      Michman, 1) agrees that Paul turned out to be an interesting story. Perhaps dynamism is not enough, but for me it will do.
      2) Ivan the Terrible here I agree with you 50 percent: yes, he is one of the most significant statesmen in Russia, but at the same time he is one of the gloomiest figures in Russia. As it seems to me, Ivan the Terrible, one in 3 persons: the initial period of his reign - achievements, then the beginning is overexcited (again ambiguous) and the third: "I am sinful" as he spoke about himself
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    13 December 2018 17: 27
    The author spoke about a little-known and therefore very interesting period: late paganism surrounded by Christians. An interesting topic in itself. Plus the expansion of Catholics to the east. It was purely by chance that pagan Lithuania was on their way, and if there were lands of Christian Russia, they would simply change the terminology: "the fight against the pagans" turned into: "the fight for the true faith."
    And Keistus reminds me of the Kiev prince Svyatoslav: the same decency and nobility: "I go to you," courage. Agree that few people will refuse to go to unpleasant ones alone. True, I think there was a psychological calculation: apparently, the Hungarian king was not a religious fanatic. Perhaps he was sympathetic to Keystus, because Keystus did not accidentally choose him.
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    14 December 2018 10: 48
    Good article.
    I was here recently in Novgorod and somehow missed the presence of Keystut with Algerd on this monument. And the guide did not focus on this.
    But it turns out like ..
  9. 0
    14 December 2018 21: 47
    In Novgorod to perpetuate Grozny? Ahem ... Apparently, those who erected the monument were still friends with the brain ?, no?
    1. 0
      14 December 2018 22: 18
      The truth was drawn from the annals and from memory. And Novgorod - they cut it.
  10. +1
    14 December 2018 22: 10
    And then both "vile bastards" came together in a battle ... Not among themselves. And the whole Order was sent into the void.
  11. 0
    17 December 2018 01: 41
    Quote: Adjutant
    But in the case of the collection of Russian lands real competitor of Moscow?

    Well yes. Contemporaries of Dmitry Donskoy. Yagailo was even a participant in the Battle of Kulikovo. On the side of Mamai. True, the participant is strange, who most of all played the role of a spectator in this battle, like "did not have time" ...
    And in the Russian principalities there was also commotion and massacre for supremacy and the Grand Duchy, Moscow competed with Tver, Novgorod was generally a separate state, in itself ...
    And it is not known how it would have gone further, collecting Russian lands. The Lithuanians collected a lot of them. Only then Jagaila had such an opportunity: the Sejm of Poland, in its own graters and for its own reasons, elected him a Polish Krul. At first, only his figure united - he was simultaneously the king of Poland and the Grand Duke of Lithuania. And these are already Catholics, and it became somehow not very much about "collecting Russian lands" on a voluntary basis.
  12. 0
    17 December 2018 12: 51
    It’s interesting just like Klim Sanych Zhukov’s. By the way, the author is also Zhukov. Coincidence?
  13. 0
    31 March 2023 12: 52
    After the Partitions of the Commonwealth, the empire diligently transfers the name Lithuania to the ethnic Zhmud. The ideologists of the Russian Empire (primarily historians such as K.A. Gavorsky, M.O. Koyalovich, M.F. Vladimirsky-Budanov, M.K. ”- this is supposedly Zhmud (Zhemogitia), although it was not a member of the ON just when the Grand Duchy was rapidly expanding to the south and east.
    It is clear that the Samogitians gladly accepted such a generous gift - to consider themselves Lithuania, and not Zhmud and a colony of Lithuania. Hence their stubborn unwillingness to part with this myth today. Moreover, the Great Russian historians simultaneously introduced the fable that, they say, the Litvins, whom the empire renamed into Belarusians, never had their own statehood (which Russia liquidated at the end of the XNUMXth century) and that they allegedly languished in the ON under the yoke of the Samogitians, whom the empire renamed Lithuanians.
    Polish (Wikipedia)
    "The birth of the Novolitov nationality. (Respectively, it was different, it was the Litvins, as the ancestors of modern Belarusians were called)
    ... after the abolition of serfdom in 1864, the Novo-Lithuanian people were created from the Zhmud peasantry - Lithuanians, with the Lithuanian language. This process was organized and carried out by the tsarist authorities...."
    In the Middle Ages, all the names of nationalities had the possessive form “-in” at the end: Rusyns, Litvins, Georgians, Armenians, Zhmudins, Nemchins, Tatars, etc. There were some exceptions, but in general this is a clear rule. In 19 Art. in the Russian language of tsarist Russia, a new form “-ets” becomes popular: Azerbaijani, Dagestan, Lithuanian, Korean, Chinese. Prior to that, such words did not exist in the language.
    Modern British historian Norman Davis: "- Back in the late 19th century, the Lithuanians (Zhamoits), who were ahead of the Belarusians (Litvins) with a national revival, RECEIVED THE SUPPORT OF THE RUSSIAN IMPERIAL AND THEN SOVIET IDEOLOGISTS, THANKS TO WHICH THEY MANAGED TO SPREAD THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION OF HISTORY."
    Geographical description of Lithuania in the English encyclopedia of 1845. Lithuania has not yet been renamed into Belarus and the name has not been merged into Samogitia. Lithuania in the north borders on Samogitia in the south with Podolia and Volhynia.
    ENCYCLOPAEDIA METROPOLITANA: OR UNIVERSAL DICTIONARY OF KNOWLEDGE (LONDON 1845) AUTHOR: SAMUEL TAYLOR COLERIDGE
    ENCYCLOPEDIA CAPITAL: OR UNIVERSAL DICTIONARY OF KNOWLEDGE.
    "LITHUANIA BORDERS IN THE NORTH WITH SAMOGITIA AND LIVONIA, IN THE EAST - WITH RUSSIA, IN THE SOUTH - WITH PODILIA AND VOLYNIA, IN THE WEST - WITH PRUSSIA. ITS PROVINCE ...." .

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