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Old Man, do not Gaza! How Alexander Grigorievich and Vladimir Vladimirovich did not quarrel

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The Belarusian president decided to publicize yet another gas dispute with Russia, but quickly apologized, also publicly, although not entirely and not so brightly. Something similar has happened, and more than once. Constantly making references to the traditions of friendship and cooperation, that in the Union State, that in the EAEU, Alexander Lukashenko does not give up attempts to bargain for Belarus certain preferential conditions for the production of Russian hydrocarbons. Not so long ago, he did not go through with oil, which was thoroughly analyzed by only a few media outlets, including "Military Review", now - with gas.


However, it is possible that the Belarusian leader is just tired of waiting for, when at last, uniform rules for the gas game will be established for the members of the EAEU. After all, this, he said, was promised by Russia, launching a global integration process. However, Russian gas at first remained outside the brackets of the Customs Union, and now remains outside the zone of real regulation by Eurasian structures. From Russia, partners are periodically reminded that Gazprom is a world-class private company, albeit with a huge share of the state in the share capital, and is forced to exist according to the rules of the world market.

Old Man, do not Gaza! How Alexander Grigorievich and Vladimir Vladimirovich did not quarrel


But taking into account this reservation, it is clear that Lukashenko simply could not but inspire the agreements reached by his country with Russia on the oil and gas topic as early as April of 2017. Then Minsk, we recall, in response to the repayment of 726 million dollars for gas supplied earlier, was guaranteed quite reasonable gas prices for 2018 and 2019 years. 129 and 127 dollars per cubic meter, respectively - this is several times less than for Europe. But still much more than for consumers within Russia.

It was on the latter circumstance that the Belarusian president tried to focus the attention of his EAEU colleagues. According to Lukashenko, said at a meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council in St. Petersburg, which immediately replicated news agencies, “the tariff for transporting gas from the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District to Belarus is three dollars per thousand cubic meters per hundred kilometers, while the internal Russian tariff is three times cheaper - about a dollar. ”



The leader of Belarus continued where he was “cooler” by proposing to make the Eurasian Economic Commission a supranational body that would almost be able to ignore the position of any president or state. To control the officials who do not comply with the norms of the EAEU, they really need someone like a "conductor" for whom all passengers are equal. But it turned out that, in principle, a sound idea expressed on emotions acquired rather strange outlines.

On the sidelines, Alexander Grigorievich briefly but distinctly referred to the European integration experience. He did not hesitate and recall that many Russian officials, right up to the prime minister, repeatedly repeated to him that gas prices would be formed in the simplest way — cost plus delivery price. But in practice it turned out that in the structure of gas prices for Belarus, the share of payment for transportation in Russia is 70 percent. This is twice as much as for consumers of the Smolensk region. Lukashenko recalled one more neighboring region of Russia - the Bryansk Oblast, noting that Belarus costs gas in 130 dollars per thousand cubic meters, and Bryants and Smolensk are only in 70. Well, how can you not be offended?

However, as it turned out suddenly, almost during the meeting itself, neither Kazakhstan, nor Armenia, nor even Kyrgyzstan with Tajikistan, actually have any particular problems with Russian gas. “Old Man” in general, it seems, at first, none of the Eurasian leaders and their advisers understood. Understood one thing - Belarus again complains about Russia. But, knowing that the contract of Belarus with Gazprom ends already in 2019, they waited for the continuation. And the continuation is the apology of the Belarusian president.

It was simply impossible to remain silent about this, then you simply won’t end up with interpretations. And it is not by chance that the State Secretary of the Union State, Grigory Rapota, almost immediately reported positively to the official, Rossiyskaya Gazeta:
“Belarus is the closest ally of the Russian Federation. And everything that gives rise even to a hint of suspicion that something is being done there to the detriment of allied obligations is always very disturbing. I will make a reservation - there are often far-fetched anxieties. Observers, experts, sometimes, start up in vain, make hasty conclusions. At the official level, everything is solved much more calmly. Russians and Belarusians have really good contacts and there is always the opportunity to explain everything, to tell, to agree. ”


Returning to the aforementioned contract with Gazprom, we note that Lukashenko arranged something like a tantrum with the obvious goal of bargaining for himself as much as possible a softer version of calculations with the Russian gas giant. The fact that such a scenario is quite real, has been talked for a long time by Russian experts, who believe that the gas companies simply will not be allowed to “open” the Belarusian ally too openly. To which, already by virtue of the geopolitical position of the pro-Russian strategic bridgehead, much is forgiven. Starting with the non-recognition of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and the Crimea and ending with a strange flirtation with politicians of the Maidan, which is given either for wise mediation, or for "honest brokerage" a la Bismarck.



After the apologies of President Lukashenko, few people have any doubts that the “allies” will once again be able to come to some common point of view on the oil and gas problem. For the sake of compromise, prices for Russian gas for Belarus may be slightly reduced, but with a strict condition not to re-export it. Although how can you keep up, if the accounting and control in the Belarusian outback only on paper looks flawless?

At the same time, it is difficult to disagree with the Belarusian colleagues that gas, expensive for an ally, also hits the Russian economy. After all, hundreds of Russian enterprises and millions of Russians are participating in cooperation with Belarusian factories and factories. In every Belarusian tractor, bus or truck almost half, and even more components from Russia. Expensive gas, we inflate the price for them for ourselves. However, price competition with Belarusian products, as well as with the one that we are often given for Belarus, is generally a topic for a separate study.

But the fact that Belarus, flirting with the West at every convenient and uncomfortable event and constantly criticizing Russian anti-sanctions, can still hope for an accelerated transition to domestic Russian gas prices will be a leader in creating a single gas market in the EEU, now there is a lot big doubts. The case when the economy is dictated by politics ...
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  1. rayruav
    rayruav 13 December 2018 09: 09
    -4
    as there is 72 meters: to feed the lazy brother drinking a suitcase-drove-Europe
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 13 December 2018 09: 19
      +8
      He wants to not really bother to stay in the chair. The old man has become Old Man, it has become hard for him, he is getting out of it anyway, and let's join Belarus to the Russian Federation as a subject, so far brothers! In Europe, as Ukrainians did not need to, the people and mentality are not the same for Europe.
      1. Machito
        Machito 13 December 2018 09: 43
        +16
        Belarus allies with Russia when it suits it. Old Man refers to the European Union, which unanimously on command imposes sanctions, expels diplomats, and himself pursues an "independent" policy: flirts with the West, does not recognize Crimea, Abkhazia, North Ossetia, flirts with ukrofascists.
        In short, both ours and yours for a pretty penny are dancing.
        Lukashenka himself needs to decide what he wants: "independence" or a union state. If you are an ally, then support your ally in grief and joy.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 13 December 2018 10: 53
          +1
          In my opinion:

          only in the interests of Greater Russia do the union state
          there is no interest in pulling the strap of Luke - to take our tug on the rights of 2 federal districts.
          IF LUKASHENKO CANNOT SHOW AN EXAMPLE OF POLICY OF INTEGRATION IN A UNIFIED STATE FOR THE WHOLE POST OF THE SOVIET SPACE, AND THEN AND KOKHLOV BY SUCH SCENARIO TO TAKE INTO THIS "ONE STATE". then take everyone in parts on personal-Kremlin terms without taking into account the opinions of those who sat down.
          If the GDP can unite the post-sov space, let him rule from the Kremlin, if not, let him sit and do not interfere with rude purchases for gas debts of the former "saints"
          and gas and other economics are only part of the ties and not the main thing for unification
        2. rayruav
          rayruav 13 December 2018 11: 25
          0
          pseudo states do not live long
    2. rayruav
      rayruav 13 December 2018 11: 24
      -1
      hello brothers thank you for the cons, but objective reality is not a ram sneezed
      1. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 13 December 2018 19: 19
        0
        Like it or not, on hydrocarbons the Russian Federation has opposed itself the whole of Europe, and now it is losing its last ally. And what’s better: it’s more expensive to sell and send the profit to US banks, or to have a reliable last friend of the Russian Federation ... And who rules the whole hydrocarbon policy of the Russian Federation, a public property that citizens do not see benefits, okromy several of the chosen ones ...
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 December 2018 19: 39
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 5
          And which is better: it’s more expensive to sell and send the profit to US banks, or to have a reliable last friend of the Russian Federation ...

          Having a reliable friend is, of course, good. But where to get it? wink
          A reliable friend at least sometimes supports Russia. And it does not go to the principle of "sovereignty" every time it is asked for something. At the same time, regularly receiving preferences from Russia and demanding new ones.
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 13 December 2018 21: 54
            +2
            Not only that - it talks a lot about the equal rights of economic entities, it requires financing of Belarusian exports by Russian, for some reason, banks, preferences for Belarusian goods when holding Russian, well, no doubt tenders .... And in Belarus see KAMAZ with Belarusian numbers - nonsense! And not because it’s better or worse, just LOWER! About harvesters and tractors produced in Russia have generally forgotten. This is a taboo! Although they are at least no worse (in, joking!) And cheaper.
            But, the old man has only one truth - preferences should go to Belarus and that’s the point. And then we, someday, maybe, if ...
            1. Vladimir 5
              Vladimir 5 14 December 2018 12: 12
              +2
              So the Belarusians should thank their "dad" for his efforts to support the country, its citizens and production ... In all states, preference for their products is the first priority, even propaganda - "buy domestic" everywhere in the world, then the head of the BR is doing the right thing. Quote: "But the dad has only one truth - preferences should go to the Republic of Belarus, period. And then, someday, maybe" ... "Dad" is 100% RIGHT, and just use such actions as an example .. Here in the Russian Federation, on the contrary, not for the state, but for your personal pocket more ...
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 14 December 2018 17: 55
                -1
                Quote: Vladimir 5
                So the Belarusians should thank their "father" for his efforts to support the country, its citizens and production ..

                So we are not Belarusians. And an attempt enter paradise on someone else's hump to equip Belarus at the expense of Russia, while remaining a sovereign state, we are frankly not happy.
                Quote: Vladimir 5
                Here in Russia, on the contrary, not for the state, but for your personal pocket more ...

                If the Russian authorities were rooting for the government’s pocket, the father and his current policy would buy energy at Polish prices.
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 13 December 2018 09: 09
    +13
    It’s not necessary to earn money twice or even thrice and everything will be fine.
    1. Machito
      Machito 13 December 2018 11: 07
      +11
      Quote: Svarog
      It’s not necessary to earn money twice or even thrice and everything will be fine.

      Yes to hell with it with earnings.
      Where's the ally’s support? Nicaragua recognized North Ossetia, but Belarus did not. Are we taking gas to Nicaragua? They have the USA close by. Not to be afraid of. Is Belarus afraid? Whom? Russia?
      Old Man wants: to eat a fish, to sit on a pipe, and he won’t choke on Belarusian shrimp.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 13 December 2018 21: 56
        0
        Do you want to write South Ossetia?
        The North, thank God, has long been a resident of Russia and does not require any recognition of the "best friend and brother"!
  3. siberalt
    siberalt 13 December 2018 09: 11
    +4
    Father is afraid that the enemy fleet will enter the "Belarusian Sea" and scare away all the shrimps, so he is holding back in disputes over free gas from Russia.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 13 December 2018 09: 22
      -8
      Quote: siberalt
      shrimp scares

      Old Man is economic and prudent. And friends with neighbors!
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 13 December 2018 19: 37
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And friends with neighbors!

        The most important thing is paying for everything,
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 14 December 2018 03: 13
          -1
          That's right .... And his last name is LUKASHENKO!
  4. BAI
    BAI 13 December 2018 09: 21
    +11
    gas costs Belarusians $ 130 per thousand cubic meters, and Bryansk and Smolensk only 70. Well, how can one not be offended?

    Our people are like "the owner of the subsoil". So why should a landlord pay as much for his property as a foreign buyer?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 13 December 2018 10: 36
      0
      Quote: BAI
      gas costs Belarusians $ 130 per thousand cubic meters, and Bryansk and Smolensk only 70. Well, how can one not be offended?

      Our people are like "the owner of the subsoil". So why should a landlord pay as much for his property as a foreign buyer?

      So you yourself answered this question .. as if "the owner of the subsoil"
  5. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 13 December 2018 09: 27
    +23
    Lukashenko also remembered another neighboring region of Russia - Bryansk, noting that gas costs Belarusians $ 130 per thousand cubic meters, and only 70 to Bryansk and Smolensk residents.

    Alexander Grigorievich! if you want gas at a price like in the Smolensk or Bryansk regions, then become a Belarusian territory within the Russian Federation. And how to support Russia, so Lukashenko says - "I do not trade in sovereignty," but how to get cheap oil and gas, so we "sat in the same trenches" hi
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 13 December 2018 21: 59
      0
      So the regional governor does not have his own currency, and the seal of her rights is not May.
      And so, to myself, the independent ataman Rygorych, I want to - I’ll still print to myself ... laughing
  6. Detective
    Detective 13 December 2018 09: 29
    +22
    Lukashenka’s latest hysteria is caused by the fact that it’s more and more difficult for him to sit on two chairs. Moscow is tired of such hypocrisy, when a comrade, on the one hand, begs Russia all the time (and simply begs) for various expensive nishtyaks in the form of gas discounts and other preferences, and on the other hand, he simply sucks up to the West. By the way, it is time for this "strong business executive" to decide who, in fact, is Russia or Ukraine as his allies. In this matter, his crawling with a fifth point on two chairs is already just plain annoyance. Ukrainian goods go to Russia through Belarus, and energy sources go in the opposite direction ... In any case, the comrade started playing a smuggler. Lukashenka will have to coordinate his foreign and defense policy with Russia. Otherwise, nothing will be agreed with him at all. If earlier they tried to react behind the scenes to “cute Belarusian pranks” such as cooperation between Minsk and Kiev in the military-industrial complex, without bringing up such extreme unscrupulousness of their ally for public discussion, now they talk about it openly. Member of the Council for Interethnic Relations under the President of Russia Bezpalko expressed complete bewilderment at the actions of Belarus in this matter. And this despite the fact that Ukraine calls Russia an aggressor ... "Will they fight together, Lukashenko and Poroshenko, against us?" - Bezpalko asks.
    In any case, Lukashenka’s words about friendship, the only ally, oaths of fidelity, the constant mention of that (even on economic issues) that we fought together, etc. no one pays any attention! Does Lukashenko want money and cheap energy? Lukashenko wants further comprehensive support by Russia of the economy of Belarus? In this case, Russia wants a clear pro-Russian policy from an ally, both foreign and defense. No and no trial.
    1. rayruav
      rayruav 13 December 2018 10: 20
      -1
      if Moscow were tired of it, they would have acted tough for a long time, and so this tyagomotin lasts from the collapse of the USSR
      1. Detective
        Detective 13 December 2018 11: 03
        +11
        Tyagomotin, as you call it, began much earlier than the collapse of the USSR. There is a concept of expediency i.e. to sacrifice something for the sake of a specific goal, there are simply concepts of help or mutual aid. Unfortunately, on the contrary, there are unscrupulous freebie lovers. Moreover, the most interesting thing is freebies from all sides. The most stunning last example of a completely sincere and one can say childish love for freebies from Belarus, I will now give. Belarus is always asking, begging and even trying to demand various kinds of compensation from Russia. This applies to all spheres of cooperation - politics, defense, culture and of course the economy. The Russian government has long planned the 2019-2024 tax maneuver, i.e. increase in the tax rate on minerals. This is a 1.1 trillion rubles cut in budget payments to oil workers. The oil price will become world-wide, and the export duty will be zero. Russian oil refineries will receive assistance. However, Belarus wants to continue to receive Russian oil at a completely non-market, integration, preferential price! Those. In simple terms, Belarus is so used to free oil that it is now trying to demand compensation from Russia for ... "lost profits." Indeed, simplicity is truly worse than theft! Why, if Belarus is independent and sovereign, does it not behave in this way, but constantly begs and throws tantrums? Lukashenko must remember that Belarus on the political map of the world exists only thanks to Russia. In Russia, they speak louder and openly that we are not satisfied with such an ally, whom we feed with energy resources and loans in response to words and already completely undisguised duplicity.
        1. rayruav
          rayruav 13 December 2018 11: 12
          -1
          you know, even though I consider you to be my opponent, but as they say neither add nor remove I put a plus
          1. Detective
            Detective 13 December 2018 11: 22
            +2
            Being an opponent doesn’t mean disagreeing with obvious things because of political preferences if his opponent speaks about them? smile
    2. Antares
      Antares 13 December 2018 12: 33
      0
      Quote: Detective
      By the way, it's time for this "strong business executive" to also decide who his allies are Russia or Ukraine

      these are the two largest economic partners of the Republic of Belarus.
      Do you propose to lose one of them?
      Even Ukraine and the Russian Federation declaring one thing in practice still trade.
      Quote: Detective
      Ukrainian goods go through Russia to Belarus, and energy comes in the opposite direction ... In any case, the comrade played a big smuggler

      energy carriers from the Russian Federation come directly. Through Belarus there are also many Russian firms in transit. Export of Belarus to Ukraine is more expensive than that of Russians. Using a competitive price - Russians easily squeeze RB. Even the politicization of Ukraine does not help.
      Quote: Detective
      cooperation of Minsk with Kiev in the military-industrial complex

      But what should Minsk be limited to? He sells his own. It is not connected with the Russian Federation by any agreements prohibiting sales to Ukraine. And the Russian Federation itself, in addition to the list of counter-sanctions, can also trade and trade. Claims to Belarus should be addressed to the Russian Federation itself. To start. But RB has nothing to do with it.
      In this case, Russia wants a clear pro-Russian policy from an ally, both foreign and defense

      the Russian Federation does not have this clear pro-Russian policy; it doesn’t have it ... it cannot demand from an ally something more than itself.
      But she can declare dissatisfaction with Belarus. It’s easier. Someone to blame is already easier.
      1. Detective
        Detective 13 December 2018 13: 10
        +4
        Quote: Antares
        Do you propose to lose one of them?
        Even Ukraine and the Russian Federation declaring one thing in practice still trade.

        I do not propose anything to Lukashenko. Speaking of alliance, he profits from the re-export of European goods banned in Russia. You do not know about this? Sells gross Russian energy at market prices. Including to Ukraine. Do you know about this? Is this an ally? No, definitely!
        Let us not deal with demagogy, okay? I'm tired yesterday and now I want another nap for an hour. I’ll answer you very simply everything that you wrote yet - the economy of Belarus is fully supported by Russian aid. Yes! And this is exactly so. And it is HELP! Does Russia have its own interests in this world? Does Russia have the right to expect that it will be answered with good with good? Can Russia have its defense interests in Belarus? If we answer YES to all these questions, then Lukashenko right now will have to with tears, groans, groans, but move the seat from two chairs to one. If he is mistaken with the choice of a chair, then he simply will no longer see the Russian gratuitous woman with all the ensuing consequences. That's all. Is Russia entitled to it? Yes, any number! I already wrote about this here, I repeat - at this forum Lukashenko heard about these words in your address - under the USSR you had the right to self-determination right up to the exit, now you also have but up to the entrance! So, if you are so cunning, independent, then live like that. At his own expense and Western handouts of course. If there is anything left in the head besides self-made cunning, let's start talking, but with the life of the Russian Aerospace Forces! The base will be large, beautiful and modern and not only the videoconferencing ... Belarusians will work there and earn money and live better and safer. And further ... smile And yet we need this ... We are allies!
  7. LAWNER
    LAWNER 13 December 2018 09: 35
    -17
    Well done "Old Man" !!! Every penny saved is a plus for the budget of Belarus ... For this you can step on the throat of your pride.
    1. Konstantin Shevchenko
      Konstantin Shevchenko 13 December 2018 09: 44
      +11
      He is not proud. The hypocrite is his name.
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 13 December 2018 09: 48
      +11
      Quote: LAWNER
      For the sake of this, you can step on the throat of your pride.

      And also honor, conscience and decency!
      1. LAWNER
        LAWNER 13 December 2018 09: 50
        -5
        By definition, a politician cannot have such concepts.
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 13 December 2018 09: 56
          +5
          Quote: LAWNER
          By definition, a politician cannot have such concepts.

          Well, you probably know better, I am an ordinary person who appreciates precisely such qualities in people.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 13 December 2018 10: 59
        0
        all of the above does not ring in your pocket
    3. andj61
      andj61 13 December 2018 13: 14
      -1
      Quote: LAWNER
      Well done "Old Man" !!! Every penny saved is a plus for the budget of Belarus ... For this you can step on the throat of your pride.

      They would send him in the corner and in the azimuth at least once — and in general, a penny would not have got into the budget! And so - the scheme works: it will arrange a tantrum, will scream loudly - and will receive additional benefits. Any benefits should be determined by specific political issues - at least the recognition of the Crimea, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. hi
  8. Altona
    Altona 13 December 2018 09: 45
    +2
    If we consider it within the framework of the EAEU, then probably Lukashenko is still right. Because supranational rules and tariffs should be uniform. But at the same time, in our time, excuse the pun, there should be political commitments behind economic preferences, that Belarus unconditionally supports Moscow's policy, and does not flirt with anyone it wants. Although Moscow is capitalist so to speak, and Minsk is conditionally socialist, and this gives rise to a whole host of problems with "responsible entrepreneurs" close to the Kremlin. Only cats are born for free.
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 13 December 2018 11: 15
      +1
      The policy of the Russian Federation is not too far-sighted. Immediate benefits turn into problems in the future that no one wants and will not solve.
  9. 3vs
    3vs 13 December 2018 09: 50
    -1
    Apparently, they told Comrade Lukashenko that when Belarus enters into Russia as a part of all regions, then
    talk about inside Russian prices will be.
    The comrade had to apologize, we are not selling sovereignty for gas ...
    1. rayruav
      rayruav 13 December 2018 11: 16
      0
      then gas should be like a reverse to Hohland 340 wonderful Amerov ruble
  10. Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 13 December 2018 10: 03
    +1
    Natsik Litvinov paid here. Buy navy buy online registration buy wants the geyropa to like and with the State Department officials turns his eyes
  11. HAM
    HAM 13 December 2018 10: 08
    +8
    One wise man barely managed to escape to Rostov, when another appeared.
    He also began to flirt with Europe, he believes that he has already squeezed everything out of Russia, it's time to "milk" Europe ... well, well ... where you sit, you get off ... there are plenty of smart people, the same Baltic states are begging there. , this is old age, however ...
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 13 December 2018 10: 26
    +1
    There is nothing to discuss there, because the game is muddy and its outcome is not clear .... fortunetelling.
  13. avi1301
    avi1301 13 December 2018 10: 27
    0
    Again, as always, they will dispose of our "national property" from their lordly generosity, and we will increase the retirement age to 200 years. Belarus, from our traitors, will soon be taken by Poland. Everything is going according to the scenario of Ukraine.
  14. Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 13 December 2018 10: 29
    -1
    Quote: Yodzakura
    he bred Natsik, Litvinov here. buy a navai buy-on online buy-in wants to like the geyropa and twist his eyes with State Department officials
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 December 2018 10: 33
    +4
    He wants gas at Russian prices, let him become the westernmost federal district of the Russian Federation. and immediately all questions will disappear. Why is Luke pretending to be a fool.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 December 2018 13: 38
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      He wants gas at Russian prices, let will become the westernmost federal district of the Russian Federation

      To do this, father will first need to capture Poland. smile
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 13 December 2018 16: 14
        0
        Leave Lyakhov Ukrainians.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 13 December 2018 17: 44
          0
          Quote: Ros 56
          Leave Lyakhov Ukrainians.

          Then to become the most western federal district of the Russian Federation is not fate, but Kaliningrad is still west. smile
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 13 December 2018 17: 47
            0
            This is our resort area, it’s good there. I had to be in my youth.
  16. rayruav
    rayruav 13 December 2018 11: 20
    -1
    how much will that Belarus have at these gas prices for two months if the interest on loans is paid
  17. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 13 December 2018 15: 43
    +1
    As already this Lukashenka got it. Yeltsin hovered unification, and VVP has been telling fairy tales for almost 20 years. - "We are fraternal republics," so why are you bowing to the West ?? Zhirinovsky told you a few years ago, if you want gaaaaaz at a price like in Smolensk, give it a 86 governor, but if you want your own nezalezhnasti, pay like in Germany, at $ 250 per thousand cubic meters. ... Russia subsidizes you every year for $ 10 billion and you still cry that you are not enough.
  18. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 13 December 2018 22: 22
    -2
    Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
    He is not proud. The hypocrite is his name.

    Is it you who promised not to raise the retirement age?
  19. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 13 December 2018 22: 29
    -3
    Quote: Ros 56
    He wants gas at Russian prices, let him become the westernmost federal district of the Russian Federation. and immediately all questions will disappear. Why is Luke pretending to be a fool.

    Have you asked me ??? do I want to see you ??? When will you deal with your easternmost federal district ?, and if in short, don’t choke ???
  20. Letnab
    Letnab 14 December 2018 04: 45
    0
    Just the other day there was an article on this subject in the internet, an interesting situation arose. First, there was a run over by Lukashenko about the difference in internal and external prices for gas and oil. Now another situation that he does not like. As a result of the Medvedev tax maneuver, that is, shifting the tax burden from exports to the domestic market, and bringing fuel prices to world prices inside Russia, Lukashenko has no options for competition with Russia. T e will have to buy fuels and lubricants, taking into account the reduction in export prices to Belarus, essentially the domestic prices of Russia, it seems like fair competition, but this does not suit him ...
  21. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 14 December 2018 23: 51
    -1
    gas will be generated in the simplest way - cost plus delivery price

    Suppose I made a shovel and want to sell it. But sell at cost? And do I need it? What's this? Business in Russian? Spent - 3 rubles - sold for 3 ... but can good people sell for 2 rubles? And then what should I and my family live on?
    It's just that no one in my family will appreciate my "brotherly" help. They will call him an idiot and do the right thing. Their children are not yet rushing. You know, there is a good Russian saying: to give to everyone - the bed will break.
    Well, and across the country - how the Great and Terrible will decide ... no one will call him that word. Maybe they just think ...
    For free, all the bowels are now owned by someone unknown.
    It’s just that they will rip off this discount for their Belarusian brother from their people. Gasoline or something else will increase prices. But the capitalist will not miss his.
    Perhaps the Russian people are already living under communism? Oh, byad ... I didn’t notice.
  22. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 15 December 2018 16: 00
    +1
    I can say so: after analyzing the latest articles and comments regarding Belarus - there must be something ... as if anti-Russian, anti-Belarusian gentlemen were sharply excited, they sprayed with saliva. Wait and see.