Huawei's financial director released on bail, but her extradition is demanded by the US

According to a ruling issued last Tuesday by the Supreme Court of the Canadian province of British Columbia, the founding director of Chinese company Huawei Meng Wanzhou, who was detained in Vancouver on charges of attempting to violate US trade sanctions against Iran, was released on bail of Canadian $ 10 million ).

For the period while the investigation is underway, the woman is obliged to wear an electronic bracelet and not leave the house from 11 in the evening until 6 in the morning. In addition, the United States demands the extradition of Maine Wanzhou.

In connection with the arrest of Wanzhou, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China protested to the Canadian and American authorities and demanded that the order to detain the Huawei top manager be canceled.

Huawei also made a statement in which it expressed hope for a fair and timely completion of this case.
“We are convinced that the legal systems of Canada and the United States will make a fair decision during the subsequent hearings”, - said in her statement.

However, China, apparently, decided to force the solution of the issue of the liberation of Meng Wanzhou. Today, representatives of the non-governmental human rights organization “International Crisis Group” reported that former Canadian diplomatic staff member Michael Kovrig was detained in China, who was in the Middle Kingdom on official business.

Meanwhile, the Canadian government is not inclined to associate the detention of a Canadian diplomat with the arrest of Huawei's CFO.

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[Vasyan1971]

The shirt went to tear! Chubby servants cracked ...

[Svarog]

Crisis Group ”reported that a former Canadian diplomat, Michael Kovrig, who was in the Middle Kingdom on official business, was detained in China.

Pay attention to how the Chinese act .. this is how it is necessary .. and our citizens of different states can only chew snot .. When they steal Russian citizens, they need to act symmetrically.

[mirag2]

There are questions to China on December 5, 2018, on theaviationist.com mailbox (the most famous resource in the USA dedicated to aviation topics), a sensational photo of the top and top secret Chinese fighter Chengdu J-20 "Black Eagle", standing on ... American Georgia’s military base, or rather, the military’s parking lot at Savannah-Hilton Head Airport, and zerohedge.com wrote that it’s about to go to war ...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-10/usaf-confirms-chinese-stealth-jet-georgia-mock-war-preparations

[72jora72]

came the sensational photo of the top and top secret Chinese fighter Chengdu J-20 "Black Eagle", standing at ... an American military base in Georgia, or rather - used at the military parking lot at Savannah-Hilton Head Airport. A zerohedge .com wrote that it was a war ...

The photo shows not flying Replica J-20 .......

[genisis]

Reactions in the style of "Well, now Beijing will suit the Americans" are understandable and logical. But, most likely, no "suit" will be. For there is a nuance: Canadian sources from the financial sector (so far it has not been officially confirmed, but it looks very realistic and explains a lot) - indicate that the Huawei financial director entered Canada with (attention!) A Canadian passport, that is, Ottawa is here in its right in terms of punishing their own citizen and this explains the Canadian courage in the execution of the American "order" for arrest. If this is true (I emphasize once again - the information has not yet been officially confirmed), then the most likely reaction of Beijing will be something like this: an official protest at the diplomatic level (so as not to lose face) and the maximum use of this incident within China to nationalize the elites (and among Chinese officials A Canadian or Australian passport is like a villa in Spain or Montenegro for Russian officials) with the message: "bastards, we are at war, here you have to decide: either a house in Vancouver or, after all, earnings in Shanghai!"
The soft coup against Trump has probably already taken place

The most interesting thing in the story of the arrest of the daughter of the founder of Huawei is at what level the decision was made and who knew about it. For example, CNBC reports that John Bolton was aware of the arrest, and Donald Trump - (attention!) Did not, and negotiated with Chairman X in complete ignorance.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/06/national-security-advisor-bolton-knew-before-huawei-executive-arrest.html

If (!) This is true, then this means that the Trump administration no longer submits to him and actively takes strategic decisions, as well as goes for tough foreign policy provocations without coordination with Trump himself. In essence, this means that the US president no longer leads the country, and, unfortunately, negotiating with him is a pointless undertaking, at least until he can prove that he controls at least the White House.

[genisis]

Jack Ma's People Finish Huawei's Leadership

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2177157/surprise-surprise-vancouver-huawei-cfo-sabrina-meng

The South China Morning Post, Hong Kong's most influential newspaper, owned by billionaire (and "secret" CCP member) Jack Ma, indirectly confirms what your humble servant wrote based on his Canadian sources - https://t.me/crimsondigest/635

So, here's what happened about Meng Wanzhou, the daughter of the founder of Huawei (she is also the Huawei Fund Director), who was arrested in Canada by order of the United States:

- Meng Wanzhou very patriotically owns two villas in Vancouver
“The whole Meng Wanzhou family has residence permits in Canada.” She herself refused him in 2009, but it is still not officially clear whether she has Canadian citizenship.
- All children studied in Canadian schools as patriotic as possible
- Son Meng Wanzhou - continues to patriotically continue his education in the USA at a school in Massachusetts
- Lawyer Meng Wanzhou showed the Canadian judge "family photos of 2018", patriotically taken in Vancouver and which capture the whole family, children and even "the husband's elderly parents" - which may indicate that part of the older generation of this family of exemplary Chinese patriots lives in Canada.

Of course, an impressive portrait of the daughter of a senior Chinese military man, whom the party entrusted to create in 1987 the technology company Huawei, which was to provide China's technological leadership. And one more stroke to the portrait: Meng Wanzhou was to become the next leader of Huawei after retiring from the affairs of its founder.

In this context, it is not in vain that Reuters writes that China is trying to distance the problem of the arrest of the heiress Huawei from other issues of negotiations with the United States - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-huawei-trade/chinese-state-media -distance-huawei-arrest-from-us-trade-talks-idUSKBN1O912T

PS: It's good that this arrest took place. There is yet another reason to poke offensive facts at those who still believe in the "kRRRRanny Chinese project" and the "Communist Party of China - which includes real communist patriots and unmercenaries."
Patriots - it’s quite possible, the communists - no, the moneyless - don’t tell me the slippers of the billionaire-oligarch-communist Jack Ma :)

PS2: And the most interesting question in this whole story: why does Jack Ma's newspaper "media finish off" the heiress of the Huawei empire?

[APASUS]

Quote: mirag2

And zerohedge.com wrote that it was a war ...

How do you imagine this ? Exchange of strategic missile or naval strikes on Spratly?
China may not be able to withstand a real military clash, but it has a trillion American debts in its reserve. I don’t think it is possible at all, at the last moment, China can drop the US financial system simply by dropping its debts.

[Altona]

Quote: Svarog

Pay attention to how the Chinese act .. this is how it is necessary .. and our citizens of different states can only chew snot .. When they steal Russian citizens, they need to act symmetrically.

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Volodya, well, treat you with understanding.

[Svarog]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Svarog

Pay attention to how the Chinese act .. this is how it is necessary .. and our citizens of different states can only chew snot .. When they steal Russian citizens, they need to act symmetrically.

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Volodya, well, treat you with understanding.

I can’t .. takes anger .. After all, it’s clear that our authorities justify their cowardice in every way .. and if you look the truth, they don’t give a damn about the citizens of their own country, even those who work for the state abroad .. because they’re afraid that the seizure of real estate accounts abroad will begin .. but its always closer .. not statesmen and hucksters ..

[Nasrat]

Quote: Svarog

. not statesmen and hucksters ..

Saakashvili, are you? (joke)

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Well, the fact that some Canadian was detained is all crap, because the USA will spit on it ...
Qualcomm and Apple’s beating is another matter - that’s where the Chinese came from ... Qualcomm filed a lawsuit against an apple in a Chinese court .. billions of dollars are at stake ... and you are talking about some kind of Canadian - but a dog with him ...
http://voskhodinfo.su/panorama/geopolitika/42141-kitay-vystavil-ssha-na-48-mlrd-dollarov-za-findirektora-huawei.html

[Nasrat]

And yet ... this whole situation is very incidental .. the more these guys butt, the better.

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

And yet ... this whole situation is very incidental .. the more these guys butt, the better.

This is undeniable! I would very much like the United States and China to butt before the bloody snot, but we would stand by and make money on it ..

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

Well, the fact that some Canadian was detained is all crap, because the USA will spit on it ...
Qualcomm and Apple’s beating is another matter - that’s where the Chinese came from ... Qualcomm filed a lawsuit against an apple in a Chinese court .. billions of dollars are at stake ... and you are talking about some kind of Canadian - but a dog with him ...
http://voskhodinfo.su/panorama/geopolitika/42141-kitay-vystavil-ssha-na-48-mlrd-dollarov-za-findirektora-huawei.html

The information is interesting, thank you .. But, it only emphasizes that the Chinese are able to defend their interests .. it is clear that citizens of other camps are detained under different pretexts and goals may be different, but the state is obliged to protect them, and not just express concerns ..

[Nasrat]

Quote: Svarog

But, she only emphasizes that the Chinese are able to defend their interests ..

we’ll see, we’ll see ... the USA has just begun ... now we will regularly hear about such a bicker ... they have not defended their interests ... this is only the beginning ... 1,5 billion Chinese people - everyone needs work, and China, as the world factory is known. The main consumers of this factory are the West ... You understand - cut from the beginning one thread, then another .. This is a story for years ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

Quote: Svarog

But, she only emphasizes that the Chinese are able to defend their interests ..

we’ll see, we’ll see ... the USA has just begun ... now we will regularly hear about such a bicker ... they have not defended their interests ... this is only the beginning ... 1,5 billion Chinese people - everyone needs work, and China, as the world factory is known. The main consumers of this factory are the West ... You understand - cut from the beginning one thread, then another .. This is a story for years ...

There is no doubt .. China is very vulnerable .. today there was information that they reduced duties by 40% for cars from the USA .. This all speaks of bargaining, it is clear that the United States and China are interdependent and I think they will eventually agree .. but the Chinese already have something to learn .. but what can we learn from ours?

[Nasrat]

Quote: Svarog

. but the Chinese already have something to learn .. and what can we learn from ours?

We have different economic and political steps with China ... I think you can learn from ours ... At one time, the right to reign was received in the horde ... and nothing, then everything changed. And with a stupid knocking of a boot, one can lose statehood as well, as events with migrants and national self-awareness show ..
Yes, and there’s nothing to knock with us .. there is neither economic leverage on the United States, nor political, nor military ... the USSR was closed on itself .. - where did the economic leverage on the United States come from? ... Our view shows that we want to be with you - until they take us to their sandbox ... China has been taken ... and for a long time, in contrast to the USSR, by the way ... as the practice of China’s work with the USA has shown, it has positively affected China ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

At one time, the right to reign was received in the horde ... and nothing, then everything changed.

In general, I agree with you .. but as for the horde, then there was still neither the Russian people as the current, nor the Russian state, the principality was fragmented ..
After the Battle of Kulikovo, we can say that we have gained unity ..
The ratification of Muscovites, Vladimirites, Suzdalis, etc., went to Kulikovo Field, and the Russian army returned

Yes, and there’s nothing to knock with us .. there is no economic leverage on the USA, neither political nor military ... The USSR was closed on itself ..

The United States would never have thought of treating the USSR like it is with present-day Russia .. I mean the theft of our citizens .. And you have a strange concept of isolation, with respect to the USSR, the floor of the world beneath us ..

[Nasrat]

Quote: Svarog

.. And you have a strange concept of isolation, with respect to the USSR, the floor of the world beneath us ..

Rather, the Soviet Union was under this half of the world, judging by the fact that we supported them with money, and not they us ... It was a pity for this money .. The USSR was closed unambiguously.

Quote: Svarog

The United States would never have thought of treating the USSR like it is with present-day Russia .. I mean the theft of our citizens ..

Yes. It's right. The strength was ... by inertia inherited from Stalin ....

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

Quote: Svarog

.. And you have a strange concept of isolation, with respect to the USSR, the floor of the world beneath us ..

Rather, the Soviet Union was under this half-world, judging by the fact that we supported them with money, and not they us ... It was closed unambiguously.

If the floor of the world is under one castle, then accordingly the other half of the world should be under another castle is logical? As for the content, yes, they did, but the USA did as well .. Germany, Japan and other countries they raised after the war .. another question is that our starting positions were not equivalent because of the Great Patriotic War. The USA earned so much on the Second World War and so successfully used this war that of course the USSR was much more difficult .. during this period of time, the United States and I were in completely different economic conditions .. What actually didn’t prevent us from developing successfully .. And if you imagine, that conditions would be equal, do you think the United States and capitalism would last long?

[Destiny]

Quote: Svarog

and our citizens of different states can only chew snot .. When they steal Russian citizens, it is necessary to act symmetrically.
Reply

Who is this emotional speech addressed to? Authorities whose children have long been abroad, or me, a citizen of the Russian Federation? Who should act?

[Machito]

Quote: Svarog

Crisis Group ”reported that a former Canadian diplomat, Michael Kovrig, who was in the Middle Kingdom on official business, was detained in China.

Pay attention to how the Chinese act .. this is how it is necessary .. and our citizens of different states can only chew snot .. When they steal Russian citizens, they need to act symmetrically.

The Chinese - well done, took hostage. This is no longer a trade war with the United States, it is a slave trade.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Svarog

Pay attention to how the Chinese act .. that's how it is ..

They were not in a hurry either, but on the whole better than us, no words.

[SSR]

Quote: Vasyan1971

The shirt went to tear!

We would be so!

However, China, apparently, decided to force the solution of the issue of the liberation of Meng Wanzhou. Today, representatives of the non-governmental human rights organization “International Crisis Group” reported that former Canadian diplomatic staff member Michael Kovrig was detained in China, who was in the Middle Kingdom on official business.

This is where it is really necessary to take an example from the Chinese - an eye for an eye

Meanwhile, the Canadian government is not inclined to associate the detention of a Canadian diplomat with the arrest of Huawei's CFO.

How is it not so "inclined"? Hands off! This is our position.
How many of our citizens were detained and extradited and we never answered in the mirror.

PS.
There is probably a reason for this, these are relatives and friends of politicians and businessmen living in the USA and Europe.
Earlier, princes and so on openly pledged their children, now they are doing it in a veiled way.

[Egorovich]

Our method for any incident with our subjects is to show concern, and the Chinese fellows - respond to arrest with an arrest, then an exchange is possible. You should learn from visual actions, and not verbiage.

[Russia]

An interesting situation, if Canadians believe in China’s resolve, then Americans will wipe themselves off to the joy of everyone. Third countries also handed over ours to the states, and painlessly for themselves. Maybe this case will be the kick for Russia, which will educate and show how to fight and value their citizens.

[maiman61]

I don’t get it! But what is Russia kicking for? We have a president, and we MUST constitutionally protect our citizens. And if he does not protect, then he does not fulfill his constitutional duties.

[igorbrsv]

I thought for this case other structures are provided
I’ll go mutt the cat, because the toilet did not fix

[maiman61]

Other structures are not subordinate to the cat, and there is no need to mutate him. They report to the president.

[depressant]

it's just a test of opportunity. Another way get

[depressant]

It’s clear how this is done. I'm sorry, I won’t

[Jack O'Neill]

In connection with the arrest of Wanzhou, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China protested to the Canadian and American authorities and demanded that the order to detain the Huawei top manager be canceled.

And if the requirement is not met, then what? Last Chinese warning? ..

[Conductor]

Che kanukov little chtoli, hold another hundred.

[BAI]

In Canada, Michael Kovrig, a former diplomatic official of Canada, who was in the Middle Kingdom on official business, was detained in China.

But we never said that. Either the figures are not of that scale, or too odious, so much so that their detention caused delight.

[Same lech]

“We are convinced that the legal systems of Canada and the United States will make a fair decision in subsequent hearings,” her statement said.

We know how this is done according to Butina ... yesterday the GDP mentioned it ... it is unfortunate that she was given to these wolves from the FBI and the US Department of Justice ... prick her for self-talk.
Unfortunately, our state fights poorly for its citizens abroad ... let's see if the Chinese succeed in protecting their people from the arbitrariness of the United States ... American impudence has reached the Chinese.

[NordUral]

Alexey! It our state long ago not ours.

[Snail N9]

Modern China is not the present Russia. Nobody calls the USA and EU partners there. Let's see how events will develop ....

[bk316]

Modern China is not the present Russia.

Yeah they are called dear friends there.

[stalki]

Well done Chinese, and you have to work with the Western scum. Tooth by tooth. And our snot chew.

[bk316]

Gentlemen, let's look at the result.
And then you will find yourself in an uncomfortable situation if with Wanzhou everything will be like with Butina. Although I'm certainly for the Chinese.

[Ros 56]

The Chinese, unlike our neighbors, will not simply leave the matter of arrest and extradition. And they’ll do it right. They took striped people, they need to have someone from the striped ones by the scruff of their neck and a fur coat, before finding out and resolving all the points. We took a little fashion into the camera, we need to accustom them to the order that it is impossible to do this with foreign citizens.

[maiman61]

Well done Chinese! The Canadian was arrested in response and these immediately became smart and understanding !!! Not like some related ones. Our citizens will soon be full of American prisons!

[Fantazer911]

The answer should always be semmetric, if Russia did the same, then they would know in fashion how people would steal and hang on all of their dogs!

[3vs]

The Chinese did not express concern as our Foreign Ministry, but answered in a mirror and this is correct,
with boors it is necessary to act by their own methods, otherwise they do not understand.

[ruigat]

The Chinese woman will be released, because the CCP leadership does not chew snot and one of the Canadian citizens is already preparing to get acquainted with bamboo chips under the nails. Unlike the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, which expresses only regrets and concerns.

[NF68]

The Americans are not badly settled. That way you can come up with anything you like and at any time put the "right" person.

[Zaurbek]

However, China, apparently, decided to force the solution of the issue of the liberation of Meng Wanzhou. Today, representatives of the non-governmental human rights organization “International Crisis Group” reported that former Canadian diplomatic staff member Michael Kovrig was detained in China, who was in the Middle Kingdom on official business.


I have long had a question: Why aren’t ours doing this?

[Rzzz]

There is an assumption that these "ours" are not really ours anymore.

[bone1]

“We are convinced that the legal systems of Canada and the United States will make a fair decision in subsequent hearings.” Do you understand what they said?