The astronauts received a piece of plating "Union" with a hole from drilling

In the course of work in open space, Russian cosmonauts Oleg Kononenko and Sergey Prokopiev investigated the damage site of the plating of the MC-09 Union. Recall that we are talking about the hole, which, as previously established, appeared as a result of drilling. To open the screen-vacuum insulation of the ship, the Russian cosmonauts needed a cutter and special scissors. Micrometeoritic protection of the ship was bent clamping pliers. The work was complicated by the location of the hole, which turned out to be very difficult to reach.

The scheme of works was presented on the Roscosmos website:

As a result, fragments of the ship's skin were obtained, and now they must be delivered to the Earth for research. In addition, for the implementation of investigative actions, samples of a sealant will be delivered to Earth, with which a hole in the skin of a spacecraft will be blocked.

Recall that the return of the mission from the International Space Station is scheduled for December 20.

The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, thanked the astronauts for their work, which, as noted, was fraught with unprecedented complexity and risk. According to Rogozin, the samples taken will give an answer to the question about the appearance of a hole in the plating of the “Union”.

Journalists asked NASA representatives to comment on the work of the Russians in outer space. The American Aerospace Association said they did not consider it necessary to comment on the Russian cosmonauts survey of the Russian spacecraft plating.

TASS cites a statement from NASA representative Cheryl Warner:

It would be inappropriate to speculate on the results of a spacewalk until analysis on Earth is complete.

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

I don’t catch up with something ... there was a hole, they raised noise ... and now they cut out a piece and the norms? not clear from the article.

[Cananecat]

They took a piece of antimonitor protection, as I understand it. If drilled from the inside, then it will be damaged on the inside.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Canecat

If drilled from the inside, then it will be damaged on the inside.

So it is already damaged on the inside, that is, from the compartment, the mass of the photo was laid out with traces of exposure. What are you looking for there?

[Machito]

Now the Americans are not screwed. I don’t understand one thing - what immediately snot chewed. We must learn from the Americans: declare the United States in aggression on the ISS.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Bearded

Now the Americans are not screwed.

The essence of this exit and opening the casing? What did you want to find there? Chip, chip drill? What did they find there so that Amer wouldn’t get away with?

[Machito]

Quote: Sirocco

Quote: Bearded

Now the Americans are not screwed.

The essence of this exit and opening the casing? What did you want to find there? Chip, chip drill? What did they find there so that Amer wouldn’t get away with?

And it doesn’t matter. The main thing is to say that the Americans are to blame, they wanted to deprive the earthlings of the orbital station. Throw more information guano and wave a little tablet in front of the camera, like Petka.
In the 21st century, evidence is not needed. The statement on the zombie hunter is already a proof.
Fake times have come.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Bearded

And it doesn’t matter.

So this must be done immediately, and not after a fight with a fist to wave.

[Machito]

Quote: Sirocco

Quote: Bearded

And it doesn’t matter.

So this must be done immediately, and not after a fight with a fist to wave.

And that doesn't matter either.
New circumstances were revealed and the guano is denser.
The Washington Regional Committee has turned the veracity of the media into unnecessary attavism.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Bearded

New circumstances were revealed and the guano is denser.

If it is a guano (chewing gum) in the form of an American-made sealant, and it was under a protective shield, then yes. It will be hard to spin. Then you need to monitor the container, so as not to be stolen)))))

[Topotun]

Vaughn Bashirov again poisoning the British already sorrel ... And nothing hawala ....

[a.sirin]

"Atavism" with one "t".

[Mestny]

I draw your attention - not just some kind of plank, but a real piece of casing with the same hole. For which it was all, that is, cutting out this same skin was done.
Just in these fake times, this is the only option to really show something to people like you.

[kasatky]

Quote: Mestny

For which it was all, that is, cutting out this same skin was done.

It’s a pity, but the truth in this matter is not needed by anyone except us. If the Americans drilled in space, they will not admit guilt, even if the count on the head is comic. They will also declare us liars and senility. Europeans will play along with them.
If the structure is damaged on the ground, then there may be useful conclusions on organizing production, restricting access, identifying agents, etc.

[Vlad.by]

Well, fear God! The skin of the ship is not smoked. cut off a piece of anti-meteorite casing and made scrapings from the outer surface. As I understand it, they want to receive samples of drill material. It may turn out that it was a Chinese drill. Then, it’s for sure the Americans, our Chinese in orbit do not use.

[Victorio]

Quote: Bearded

And it doesn’t matter. The main thing is to say that the Americans are to blame, they wanted to deprive the earthlings of the orbital station.

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where does the station, if the hole in the docked ship!? instead of pushing disu here, it would not hurt to study the material.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Sirocco

The essence of this exit and opening the casing? What did you want to find there? Chip, chip drill? What did they find there so that Amer wouldn’t get away with?

The bottom line is that there is a need to obtain additional samples, which may contain microparticles of the same drill. Comparative analysis of these particles with particles taken from drill samples available in the "toolbox" of our workers, will give a clear understanding of which drill was used - ours, or foreign, i.e. the one on the American module.

[Letun]

Quote: Nyrobsky

The bottom line is that there is a need to obtain additional samples, which may contain microparticles of the same drill. Comparative analysis of these particles with particles taken from drill samples available in the "toolbox" of our workers, will give a clear understanding of which drill was used - ours, or foreign, i.e. the one on the American module.

You read (look) too many detectives

[Lycan]

Quote: Letun

You read (look) too many detectives

Why not conduct such an analysis? Detectives, by the way, would not be detectives if there were no objective methods of examination.
For example, your girlfriend, having asked you to go to a bachelorette party for 2-3 days, "suddenly" became "rounded" in a couple of months. Surely you think that you always had everything under control with her, but suspicions do not disappear: should you innocently write off her "sudden flight" as "your oversight" (and not sweat detective stories) ... or go through DNA for peace of mind -analysis (quite an accessible procedure) so that there are no omissions?
PS: In my opinion, the analysis of this drilled place is an unprecedented case in world forensics, and it just for the sake of interest should have been uncovered - much can come up there.

[dedusik]

Chemical analysis of the metal will be done in any chemical laboratory of a small plant

[meGrail]

Oh yes, "foreign ..." how much guana is pouring here, about American saboteurs, about foreign aliens from Nibiru, and most importantly, to cover up the obvious - the hole was made on Earth, and it is a direct result of slovenliness in the space industry

[figwam]

Quote: Bearded

Now the Americans are not screwed

While the two of us were outside, the Americans inside, somewhere else, drilled holes.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Bearded

We must learn from the Americans: declare the United States in aggression on the ISS.

And in the toilet our space they are no longer allowed. All. Sanctions.

[Blackmokona]

The article says that they found a sealant, which means it was precisely drilled on Earth.

[Topgun]

it’s very simple: if you drilled in space, then there will be traces on other layers of the ship, but if you climbed at the factory (that piece of iron was drilled in the wrong place and in order not to get stuck the worker who drilled did not mask the correct hole) then there will be no drill marks on other layers .. .
holes are usually drilled on workpieces, parts separately, now everything will become clear ...

[svp67]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

.and now the piece was cut out and the norms?

This fragment will be delivered to Earth in order to understand exactly what the hole was made for, and there it will be possible to establish where and who.
For some reason, he immediately introduced Rogozin, holding a fragment of the skin in front of the cameras, at the next press conference

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: svp67

This fragment will be delivered to Earth in order to understand exactly what the hole was made for, and there it will be possible to establish where and who.

yes it is understandable, the essence is in a piece cut! before there was a hole, but now it's a Hole? or "welded and glued or sealed and smeared"?

[svp67]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

there was a hole before, but now it’s a hole?

This is a fragment from the lining of the compartment that does not come back, it burns in dense layers. Yes, and there I think that this Soyuz, the reserve Soyuz, will be planted without a crew, and a new one will be sent in its place.

[andranick]

Duc fragment not of the body, but of protection

[Piramidon]

Quote: andranick

Duc fragment not of the body, but of protection

Why then did the air come out through this "protection"? The hole and started looking after the pressure began to drop.

[andranick]

because no one promised the tightness of the defenses. A sealed housing case was drilled. Behind it, outside, are leaky thermal and anti-meteorite protection.

[Piramidon]

Quote: andranick

because no one promised the tightness of the defenses. A sealed housing case was drilled. Behind it, outside, are leaky thermal and anti-meteorite protection.

As can be understood from the article, it was a piece of the sealed case that was cut out, in which there was a hole. And the thermal protection was opened to get to the sealed shell. So, apparently, this Soyuz ship is to be scrapped in the ocean. IMHO.

[vadson]

for some reason reminded gunpowder

[svp67]

Quote: vadson

for some reason reminded gunpowder

In, in ... I just did not begin to develop the idea. But the principles of political technology are the same

[vadson]

and if you dig? Colin with a test tube loomed. eh - globalization ...

[Zubr]

For some reason, he immediately introduced Rogozin, holding a fragment of the skin in front of the cameras, at the next press conference

Have mercy on your excellency!
This is only characteristic of the UN Secretary General ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: svp67

and there it may be possible to establish where and who.

You can define it much easier. It is necessary to see which of the personnel of the spacecraft manufacturer has fallen into pessimism, become self-absorbed or gone into a binge from the moment the investigation began.

[Avior]

and if he didn’t go out before?

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Avior

and if he didn’t go out before?

Then it's even easier. "Cant" drunk.

[Finches]

What kind of Jamshoud, since the skilled workers ended, because basically 20 years of lawyers and economists, and all kinds of top managers were trained, by misunderstanding drove the drill into the building in the assembly shop, then twisted his head, no one sees, took out the mouth from the mouth and put a hole in it ...

Joking as a joke, but now the men at a speed of 23000 km / h had to get to this hole and, in general, it’s good, that’s good, because it’s not a joke!

[ANCIENT]

with such neighbors in space, we need our own orbital station.

[Frederick]

Duc was ... Until for the sake of partnership they drowned. Uuh, and what fairy tales the GDP then flooded, worse than Rogozin. Before flooding, he said that we will build better, but! later. There will be Mir-2, only those who were even a little interested in astronautics knew that there would be no Mir-2. Since the construction of Mir-2 was supposed to be gradual withdrawal of old blocks and replacement with new ones, and not construction from scratch. Soon the ISS will end its service life, the partners will build their own, for themselves and their friends, and we will either run to teach the Chinese, or we will listen to Rogozin's tales on Earth ...

[Snail N9]

Yeah. We either enter the new project of the international station, then we exit, then we enter again ... just like a ball from a donkey Eeyore in the famous cartoon .....

[Frederick]

Like an Owl: "Uh-huh." It comes out great!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Friedrich

So it was ... So far, for the sake of partnership, have not been drowned. Wow, and what fairy tales

You are either unfair or little informed. Look, there is infa that the station had two serious accidents. Accident with an oxygen station and fire. One compartment was completely disabled and only thanks to the courage and resourcefulness of our astronauts did they escape death. By the way, when ours fought for their lives and the remaining compartments of the station, the American astronaut could not do anything in horror and simply watched the actions of our astronauts.
So, by the time of flooding, the station was already poorly functional and unsuitable for repair. And the decision to flood was made for a reason.

[Frederick]

I am aware of both accidents and outright underfunding, to put it mildly, simply, after the construction of the ISS on MIR, the bolt was gradually hammered. But the life of the station could be extended and, if desired, MIR-2 could not be rebuilt in full. From Roscosmos, many said that the station could be saved. But I also remember how Putin openly and brazenly lied to the honored Soviet cosmonauts and scientists, to the TV camera, that he would rebuild a new station when they asked him to allocate money for repairs and extend its life. Moreover, the station was not purely "peaceful" because the military had their own interests there. And the main question I have for Putin is, why was there a promise that you can never fulfill ?!

[zlinn]

The station was completed and operated since 1995 for American money, and in 98m there was a default and it was simply not possible to extend its "life", and they began to build the ISS for American money, and even today 90% of the costs for them

[nikvic46]

Something is not logical. Or I didn’t understand something. That ship that flew in August was supposed to burn in
atmosphere? Or reusable?

[pru-pavel]

Disposable. Unions have always been disposable. Otherwise, how do you suggest that the astronauts return.

[nikvic46]

Dear, give me a clueless message. How can one look for a hole in a ship that is no longer there?

[pru-pavel]

There is a ship. It is disposable. It flies once - from the earth to the ISS and from the ISS to the earth, it returns the previous shift of the astronauts. This progress of non-returnable freight burns out in the atmosphere, not unions. If it is more understandable to you, then it is a one-time returnable.

[Avior]

this is another ship

[Mountain shooter]

Every EVA is a mortal risk ... Did the guys risk it in vain? It is so important to know who drilled the Union? So, it’s important ... Okay, let's see how it will turn around ...

[Rurikovich]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Every EVA is a mortal risk ...

Do not tell my horseshoes The Americans won’t fly to the moon for almost half a century, but isho jumped, ran on the surface, fell and got up And you are "mortal risk"
So someone is breshit - either we are at our own mortal risk, or the Americans are playing golf on the moon

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Rurikovich

Don’t tell my horseshoes. Americans flew to the moon for almost half a century, and even jumped, ran on the surface, fell and got up. And you are a "mortal risk"

Well, after all, the Americans did not threaten to fall below the lunar surface. And here, if you come off the hoses, then you have an unplanned excursion throughout the universe. And then where to look for this meteorite in a spacesuit?

Quote: Rurikovich

So, someone is lying - either we are at our own mortal risk, or the Americans are playing golf on the moon

Definitely the Americans are crazy. As practice shows, they can’t be trusted at all. the truth is not their hobby, and in order to achieve their goal they are bored at every step.

[Rurikovich]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Well, after all, the Americans did not threaten to fall below the lunar surface

So I wrote a humorous post. I have long argued that the Americans were not on the moon, because our mortal risk is more likely than their jumps on the moon
And then, readers have forgotten how to distinguish sarcasm from seriousness, then the cons are science
Well, take the victims of the exam ...

[ver_]

... it turns out Chi Sho is Carlson - who lives on the roof ...

[Conductor]

If you drill a through hole in the submarine in the hull at a depth of 200 meters. What will happen?

[rocket757]

Submariners will become real waterfowl ..... joke, there will be nothing, they will find and repair, although they will tarnish the reputation!
By the way, a face driller at such a depth can fly so if not through, then not very weak! External pressure, however.

[Conductor]

20 atmospheres and flies through or not, I don’t know. But definitely not a hydromassage in the spa center))))

[bistrov.]

Quote: Conductor

drill a through hole in the submarine

Here, it is just the opposite, outside is not pressure but depression and temperature - 273 degrees Celsius.

[Conductor]

So they would add to the socializing, and that’s all.

[mac789]

Yeah ... Tongue to cold lumina ...

[rocket757]

Hollywood loves such moments "to draw" when air comes out into a hole the size of a door for half an hour!
Although there would be a hydro-pneumatic blow, with the most unpleasant / catastrophic consequences!

[Sova]

Like the movie "Alien" when the alien was sucked out of the Ship through the hole.

[Snail N9]

If you drill a through hole in the submarine in the hull

You get stuck with a hand drill to drill a sturdy hull near a submarine. Do you have any idea what thickness it is, and even what steel it is made of?

[K-50]

The return of the mission from the International Space Station is scheduled for December 20.

A safe return to the astronauts, well, and the rest too.

[Evil 55]

The module is like a household one, and they did meter-per-meter ventilation there for the sake of testing the metal of the cladding .. The essence of the operation is unclear and the result of the operation is incomprehensible ..

[bald]

--- "... The American Aerospace Association stated that they do not consider it necessary to comment on the examination of the skin of the Russian spacecraft by Russian cosmonauts." - For some reason, this is alarming. Maybe the "cat" is to blame !?

[Cat Kuzya]

"Cat" is definitely not to blame - "I give a grudge."

[bald]

Then only the meteor remains, the green people do not need this, we are the same.

[Cat Kuzya]

green men do not need it

You forgot about the "green crocodiles" who are friends with the "squirrel". Astronauts, especially their female part, have this version of the "space squirrel" sometimes, they say, rolls over ...

[bald]

We’ll wait for the results of the analysis, I wrote above that NASA is keeping quiet, they’re worried what the experts will reveal, and not theirs, but Russian ones.

[Avior]

what analyzes are needed, the hole was closed during the production of the ship, otherwise it was simply impossible to get there from the outside.
and if the Chinese sealant is, what conclusions do you make?

[bald]

All the information for us is diverse - whether from the outside, from the inside, whether it appeared on the earth (hole), in space - they will find out everything, otherwise they would not have cut it. Finger on the water we carry.

[Avior]

you did not understand.
the hole was first covered with sealant, and then the thermo and anti-meteorite protection was mounted on top, which had to be cut now.
This could be done exclusively during the production of the ship and nothing else.

[bald]

It’s clear that the matter is dark - we’ll wait, tired of procrastinating.

[Avior]

after the sealant outside the case under protection was found, the matter became much clearer.

[Loess]

Quote: Avior

the hole was first covered with sealant, and then the thermal and anti-meteorite protection were mounted on top -

Thermo and meteor protection are mounted externally. The hole is drilled from the inside. Drilling a hole from the inside at any time.

[Avior]

and sealant should be applied only when protection is not installed

[Loess]

And where did you get the idea that the sealant was applied from the outside? The sealant that fills the gap on either side is on either side of the hole. Especially under conditions of different pressures. And when a hole is detected in the casing, it is primarily sealed. And in this case, if the hole in the casing was already sealed with sealant BEFORE a problem was detected at the station, then after repeated sealing, traces of the initial sealant can be taken only from the outside.

[Avior]

well yes. someone squeezed the sealant from the inside through a 2 mm hole so that a fungus from the sealant formed on the outside, and from the inside no trace remained.

[Loess]

From the inside, they could (yes, I think that they were obliged to) apply sealant as soon as they discovered the hole. Still, there are not laboratory conditions, people's lives depend on the speed of eliminating depressurization. And by the way, 2 mm is not so small. And in this case, if the sealant was already there, then its traces from the inside were under the sealant layer imposed when the depressurization was eliminated.

[Avior]

they did so, but before that they took a picture.

see traces of sealant there? and no one saw

[Loess]

Quote: Avior

see traces of sealant there? and no one saw

you try to work with a colorless sealant, take a picture and see, and then say a lot you saw or not.

[Avior]

worked a hundred times, it can be seen.
besides it is black

[Loess]

Quote: Avior

besides it is black

Who told you this?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kuzya the Cat

Astronauts, especially their female part, have this version of the "space squirrel"

As for the female part, it sometimes happens without space, it rolls over.

[Cry]

Was it virgin or, as it were, untouched before flying into space or flew away with a hole?

[Avior]

the hole was sealed with sealant on the ground before the installation of the meteor protection, that is, at the factory

[Cry]

Then there was no point in arranging such an expensive enterprise with zero political effect, ringing the whole world, that we would convict Americans, including about a flight to the moon. We should now figure out who by this takes the arrows away from him, shouts to the whole space "stop the thief."

[Avior]

Of course, there was no point; they managed it to the fullest.
Are you looking for Rogozin meaning?

[Cry]

I am one of those who know the rules in this industry during the Soviet era and that people like Rogozin were not allowed to go there for a cannon shot.

[Avior]

in fact, in what industry can Rogozin be allowed to work? Conversational artist in a circus variety school?

[Million]

Rogozin is a place on the TNT channel, and not in such an industry as Roscosmos. Even in spite of his talent: Doctor of Philosophy and Doctor of Technical Sciences!
Lomonosov is resting!

[Professor]

As a result, fragments of the ship's casing were obtained, and now they must be delivered to Earth for research. In addition, samples will be delivered to Earth to carry out investigative actions. sealantwhich blocked the hole in the spacecraft lining.

Sealant? Does anyone after these words have doubts about the origin of this hole?

[Sirocco]

Quote: professor

Sealant?

Let's go about the sealant as a version, where are two types of sealants used? for example, a hole on the ground was drilled, and sealed with one type of sealant, and having discovered a hole in space, sealed with another? Do you mean this? Or are we looking for a trace of the American sealant, because the pressure began to drop gradually until all the sealant was squeezed out of the ship under the skin?

[Professor]

If the hole was closed with sealant, then this could only happen on planet Earth.

[Avior]

no, it was sealed exactly on the ground, sealed with sealant on the outside of the ship’s hull, but there is no access to this place in space under the heat and meteorite protection that is placed on top of the hull outside, the protection had to be opened and deflected to get to the right place

[voyaka uh]

"Or looking for a trace of American sealant," ////
----
So far, they have found a black Russian sealant that sealed the OUTSIDE hole.
The cosmonauts saw a black spot outside - a cap from a "plug-fungus. It remains to investigate whether there was slovenliness in Roscosmos or deliberate sabotage during the installation of the module.

[AlexVas44]

... closed up with one type of sealant, and having discovered a hole in space, closed up with another?

It is necessary to provide in the spare parts self-tapping screws with a press washer and a rubber gasket. Wrapped it in a hole and fly. Very reliable, and if you add a "moment", then generally ....

[Avior]

An example of how to write articles is not necessary. nothing to understand from the article.
Actually, the result of going out into space is the following - a hole was drilled from the inside of the ship and sealed from the outside, but under heat and meteor protection something similar to a two-grade sealant BEFORE the installation of anti-meteor protection and thermal insulation, that is, clearly on Earth during the manufacturing process.
The outer meteor protection is not damaged, and this clearly excludes that it was done in space.
Oh, Rogozin, when are you going to apologize to the Americans, are you going for your insinuations? And before the Russian astronauts it would be nice ....

[Demon_is_ada]

Quote: Avior

In fact, the result of going into space is the following - a hole was drilled from the inside of the ship and sealed outside

Not quite right The presence of sealant on the outside is due to two factors
- the difference in pressure in the housing and outside the housing
- a temporary factor during hardening, or rather, during the polymerization of the sealant
Am I not too sophisticated?
Well, and by the way - while the sealant was still plastic, it was banally pulled into a hole so he ended up outside the casing ... yeah ...

[Avior]

unassumingly - you have written stupidity. Are you not offended?
if they were shut up from the inside, then at least minimal traces from the inside would remain — and everyone would see the photos from the inside — not the slightest trace.
if it was tightened, it would fly away, and not remain glued on the outside, and even with two different grades of sealant.
If they shut up in space and the vacuum dragged on, the leak would begin at the very moment when the hole was drilled.
Now the hole is also sealed with sealant, and nothing is pulled.
So it’s clear or do you need to write more simply?

[sogdy]

Quote: Avior

if they were shut up from the inside, then at least minimal traces from the inside would remain — and everyone would see the photos from the inside — not the slightest trace.

The key word is adhesion. In the polymerization process, adhesion changes.
And yes, the first "pasting" was blown out. This has been reported.

[Avior]

you clearly write do not be shy what is wrong with your adhesion there, you can not even use common banal phrases, but objectively.
and what kind of first taping that was blown out, and who there reported it.
in general, so that you understand what you are writing about

[Demon_is_ada]

Wow, I’m looking at your data directly from orbit Are you not Rogozin’s assistant for an hour? Not? Ah, I get it, you're a fan of Stanley Kubrick Hollywood forever !!! Educated on the couch watching movies ... By the way, the film Testament (Alien, prehistory) was released, so it was touched there, in the episode when the heroine fights on a loading platform in the air with a stranger hitched ... I cried with laughter when they showed the pilot in the moment of the attempt to hold the ship, how it was pulled ... strained ... a song of songs ... straight PE2 at the exit from the dive, there, by the way, on the tidy the place under the leg was blown, Schaub means to rest Well, or the joystick is jammed, well, the button is stuck ... I advise you to like it for sure! There, it’s just about the flight of many-ton colossus into space, though it’s not entirely clear under the influence of what ... but it doesn’t matter, the main thing is the plot of the film, the mood !!! Well that's the lyrics

Quote: Avior

if they were shut up from the inside, then at least minimal traces from the inside would remain — and everyone would see the photos from the inside — not the slightest trace.

And for example, religion does not allow to clean up? Or is such a feint categorically not considered by you?

Quote: Avior

if it was tightened, it would fly away, and not remain glued on the outside, and even with two different grades of sealant.

About flew away, see the movie on my recommendation. Have you ever tried to spray a viscous fluid with pressure? The difference theoretically possible in our case is 1 atm. Try it, learn a lot of interesting things This is just the adhesion from the author below ...
About two varieties of sealant, again the question is in religion, faith and knowledge are not the same thing, rather diametrically opposed and antagonistic ...

Quote: Avior

If they shut up in space and the vacuum dragged on, the leak would begin at the very moment when the hole was drilled.

This is the question above about access to information.
Well, take an interest in where the holes are glued at the pressure difference, you can ask the Mooreans on which side they put the adhesive on the hole, if it was sealed at the factory
For me there is no problem to form a fungus from the sealant on the other side and fill up the hole, whiskers like that ...

[Avior]

and the title of the article for a specialized site is something.
it clearly follows from this that a piece with a drilled hole was cut out of the skin and made ventilation from space into the ship

[Mestny]

I look at forum horses undermining to the fullest. Well, then - Rogozin and Roscosmos should be to blame, but here they understand they are trying to gather evidence to the contrary.
Urgent all to fight! It cannot be that it was not the Russians who were to blame.

[Metamisolatria]

What other evidence is needed? Keep up with the times: hiley likes are striped and louder ..

[Avior]

if you do not understand, they have gathered just irrefutable evidence that the hole was made on the ground during the production of the ship.

I look at forum horses undermining to the fullest.

[loki565]

yeah, I needed special equipment,

[Frederick]

I kept waiting for him to get a grinder and a grinder

[Avior]

I look at forum horses undermining to the fullest.

put down the minuses, this is their method of struggle with reality

[Chicha squad]

A fragment of the UN must be shaken now.

[Avior]

Rogozin is better to shake

[silverwolf88]

For the Qualitative investigation, one more step has been taken ... let's see ... any impact leaves traces identifiable by the microparticles of tools and materials ... whose affiliation (Continent ... country) can be established quite accurately ...

[Avior]

well yes. you can’t buy them ....

[silverwolf88]

If you are familiar with the procurement system for use in Space ... then your question is about nothing ... everything that the Russian side purchased is known ... certified ... and it is clear ... everything that does not look like "OUR" is external peer exposure

[Avior]

taking into account the fact that the sealant was applied at the factory, before installing the anti-meteor protection, your argument does not make sense, in my opinion.
at the station it could not be applied outside for protection

[silverwolf88]

this is purely your opinion as a person far from the production of rocket and space technology and material physics in space ... but you have every right to think so))

[Avior]

Well, well, a respected expert in this matter will tell you how they applied a sealant in space for meteor protection in space? Waiting, all in attention

[silverwolf88]

The expert will wait for the conclusions of the commission ... which I also wish you ... be patient ... and try to choose the areas where you are special ...
Well, for example, it’s stupid for me to teach the assault company commander battle tactics in the city ... or to talk about the temperature regime of the bow of the hypersonic warhead for strategic nuclear forces ... I have very general ideas about the casing (analogue of Buran tiles) and cooling by evaporating copper alloy ??? (also a mystery) ...

[Avior]

Your desires are of little interest to me.
especially considering that you don’t understand what you are writing about.

[silverwolf88]

Well, you’re just a light of wisdom ... but it’s not clear what you have to do with the sun ... space technology ... and the subject of discussion ...
Yes, and your opinion about anything ... a dummy ... with a claim to ???

[voyaka uh]

And they found out that the hole was covered with a black sealant plug OUTSIDE. Visually there was a "black fungus"

[sogdy]

Quote: voyaka uh

Visually there was a "black fungus"

And it should have been different?

[voyaka uh]

If they were glued inside, then the outside would have looked different. A neat mushroom cap would not have been created.

[sogdy]

Quote: voyaka uh

A neat mushroom cap would not have been created.

You tried?!

[voyaka uh]

Of course. Everyone has ever worked with sealants.

[sogdy]

It's strange. Taki tutorial doesn't even agree with you. The handbook contains data on calculating the "mushroom" depending on the diameter and direction. You can take into account the pressure.
For most non-solid sealants, there is a decrease in volume during polymerization. Everything can be done flush in a relaxed environment. Blowing out the mushroom requires too much or too little pressure - computable.

[Avior]

Well, yes, of course, but there were no traces of sealant inside ...

[Roman070280]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Well, after all, the Americans did not threaten to fall below the lunar surface. And here, if you come off the hoses, then you have an unplanned excursion throughout the universe. And then where to look for this meteorite in a spacesuit?

Pfff .. When I was repairing a bridge crane from the scaffolding, I fastened it on top .. and I climbed up a steep and swinging staircase up to 30 meters - I thought I’ll lose consciousness right there ..
And if I "broke away" .. then I would have an "excursion" even much less promising .. I wouldn't even have time to blink, let alone admire the Universe ..

Any builder running around the edge of a high-rise building when laying floor slabs risks no less risk ..

[BAI]

The hole was made at the factory. What's next?

[Avior]

they will look for a saboteur, otherwise nothing

[slipped]

Where is this said? On the contrary, after conducting an investigation at the ZEM, it turned out that they did not make a hole there.

[Avior]

in the article above, the sealant was sealed under protection

[silverwolf88]

unlikely at the factory ... otherwise depressurization would work at the stage of removal during overloads

[Topotun]

Damn, in order to prove - the hole is the machinations of our "partners" men hung out for 8 hours like balloons opening the module shell. God forbid the burr would have pierced the glove of the spacesuit? Dealing with "partners" is getting harder ....

[Avior]

the peasants did not hang out in vain — they proved that they had made a hole at the factory, and they definitely established that the one who installed the protection could not know about it — the sealant is clearly visible.
now they will ask him ...

[Topotun]

This could well be proved by an investigation at the factory. Well, one person could not do this and no one noticed ...

[cast iron]

In order to prove the guilt of the person who pasted the protective fabric on the sealant, FACTS and EVIDENCE are needed. They collected facts and evidence in space. But it is impossible to blame unfounded people. Incidentally, we have not canceled the Criminal Code and the procedure for collecting evidence.

[cast iron]

Likbez especially for you. The suit's fabric is aramid. To make you understand, Kevlar is just aramid fabric. Do you need to decrypt further? Is it clear that no burr will ever break through the spacesuit’s kevlavre perchtaku ???

[Flatter]

Holes in the toilet are needed if the air filters are ineffective. Someone is tired.

[urman]

AMERICOS are not always to blame for fools damn it