Who governs Belarus?

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At first glance, the answer seems to be obvious: for almost 25 for years, the country is ruled by a man named Alexander G. Lukashenko. What could be here news? What discoveries? This man managed to literally get everyone's eyes on him and become the talk of the town. And we are already talking about the hereditary and life-long rule, and then suddenly such an absurd question. It is a well-known fact that the entire Belarusian state is built for one person and around one person (and this is also enough for everyone).





It seems to be something to argue about what to discuss? However, not everything is as clear as it seems at first glance. After all, what does “governing the state” mean? Or, for example, a company? As we know, the current activity and current orders can be given by one person / group of public figures, but completely different people can own the whole “enterprise”. Hence the "sudden" decisions and turns. When the smooth flow of the “managerial process” is suddenly interrupted by some powerful “pitfall”. And then it becomes clear “Who is who”. And also quite a sudden.

Taki Lukashenko defiantly steers the country "in manual mode", censors careless officials at the camera, flies over the country in a "blue helicopter" and tracks failures in agriculture ... and everything himself, everything himself. And he regularly speaks speeches and shows activity everywhere. However ... however, with a careful analysis of his policies (on a long stretch), certain serious doubts begin to creep in his absolute and sole reign.

Just "do not beat" certain things, do not hit. Somehow do not fit. Remember the "legendary film" "Godfather"? Why would she "suddenly" appear on television? For the Kremlin such The moves are absolutely uncharacteristic. It was “something with something”. A kind of "political fiction." Why did it happen? Such are the moves? It all started in the 2008 year, at the start of the “Three Eight Wars”. It was then that everything started spinning. Not particularly reflexing, the Kremlin expected full political (at least political) support from the “union Belarus”.

But I did not get it from the word at all, which was for Russia and its leadership a complete and deafening surprise. That is Medvedev a very long time could not believe that Minsk does not recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Strongly could not believe. It’s just that the very essence and logic of the Union State almost automatically implied such a move. But no. Confessions did not follow. Moreover, being under the most powerful pressure of the Kremlin, the “dad” wrenched out and turned out for a very long time. And, apparently, indeed, in public in the presence of the heads of the CIS, he promised to perform such an action, but he did not.

That is, before the “war of three eight”, the only thing that was required of Belarus was to receive Russian subsidies and to express assurances of sincere friendship. Then everything was relatively good. Once they demanded that Belarus do something in return, global problems began. When the Belarusians dare to mention the Union State, they somehow kindly forget that it worked very well in the “pump mode for pumping Russian money”, in any other modes it turned out to be unable to work in principle.

That is, Lukashenko was literally “wasted”, but he did not recognize Yu. Ossetia and Abkhazia. Such a gentle friendship. In general, already in the tenth “friendship” of Moscow-Minsk by the Belarusians, it was reduced to constant “trading” scandals and accusations of Moscow that she wants to involve Minsk somewhere in the political sphere. In something bad to embroil. That's the whole "friendship." Once again: everything was relatively cloudless, while Russian money and resources flowed in Minsk in exchange for verbal assurances of "unfailing friendship" (many Belarusians remember this time with nostalgia). As soon as they tried to demand something in return from Minsk, endless scandals began.

And that's just the "break point" - this is the very "non-recognition". Here it is, the starting point of serious mutual differences. And here a serious and quite obvious question arises: why? Why did Lukashenka not do what was demanded of him as an ally? In theory, he had nothing to lose at that time, officially he was “the last dictator of Europe” and the persona “non grata” in the EU. All proceeds from trade thanks to Russia. Grants from the same place. That is, by “recognizing” he did not greatly deteriorate his position in the West, where he was so “unshakeable” and seriously raised his shares in Russia.

No matter how you look, no matter how you analyze, the position of Lukashenka is absolutely incomprehensible. What for? What the hell? Simply by that time a lot of things “hung” on it: the disappearance of opposition leaders, their numerous arrests, beating of the protesters, repressions against the opposition. In the West, he could never forgive anything of this and could not. He is, by their standards, “too bad guy.” That is the “rapprochement with the West”, so beloved in Belarus, inevitably comes up against that gloomy figure of the “chairman of the state farm”. And so every time. That is, the problem is just above all in Lukashenka himself.

Therefore, strictly speaking, he personally had nothing to lose if he recognized South Ossetia. The Nobel Prize, which Gorbachev grabbed, was not the only thing for him. He did not receive any major investment projects, no major assistance from the West, “non-recognition”, did not lose and did not continue ... then why? Few people talk about this, but that's good: Lukashenko did not recognize Ossetia, so as not to violate international law and ... in Europe, he is still persona non grata. Then "sense"? I have been trying to understand for a long time, where, strictly speaking, is the “exhaust” from this decision?

And the "negative consequences" were, and serious. In the 2010 year, the next presidential elections in Belarus are taking place, and it was then that Lukashenko categorically required the support of Russia: both economic and political. The condition for receiving such support was just “it” - recognition. By the way, this was clearly and clearly stated. And publicly. That is, the very thing that Lukashenka never joked about was at stake, his personal, personal power. In order to keep it, the support of Russia is necessary: ​​both financial and political. 2009 is the year of the yard, the war in South Ossetia has recently ended ...

And we have to decide something ... So, he never recognized Ossetia. Of course, Lukashenko made a monstrous effort to get out of the situation, 2010-2011 became crucial years for the Belarusian regime. For some reason, little is written about this, but the crisis was most severe: without a sufficient amount of Russian funding, the Belarusian economy literally “began to break.”

And then there's the “presidential election”, and the election of a man whom many already quietly begin to hate. Good it could not end. It is not over. The events of December 2010 of the year are somehow strangely served here, they say almost 100% -but the pro-Russian Lukashenko against the Maidan inspired by the West. However ... however, even then Lukashenko was never pro-Russian. And absolutely no one in Moscow was going to support him. And did not support.

That is, “the best friend of Russia” was given an ultimatum: either you recognize Yu. Ossetia and everything will continue, or excuse me ... In general, before Belarus 2010-11 there existed a “unique Belarusian socio-economic model”. As a matter of fact, many people do not understand that Lukashenko is essentially a dictator-populist. He liked not only power, but also popularity. Well, basically it all worked. Until 2010 year. Could, in principle, continue to work. But the “stumbling block” was precisely that “recognition / non-recognition”. Moscow "rested its horn", but Lukashenko for some reason also did not want to concede.

Once again: there is some beautiful myth about the “cunning Lukashenko of Shklov and the lop-eared Moscow”. However, this is not the case: in the field of military supplies modern technology cooperation was curtailed a long time ago. All dreams of receiving "Iskander" and "Su-30" which year remain dreams. That is, "boundless friendship" took place only at first glance. The credibility of the Minsk leadership did not disappear yesterday. The point of bifurcation is just the moment of “recognition / non-recognition”.

That is, everything could go either in one scenario or in another way. Once again: the Belarusians somehow very quickly “run through” this moment, they say a patter. Say, and what else is there to talk? Everything is clear: Moscow tried to draw Belarus into the last unnecessary confrontation with the West. But wise Lukashenko avoided this.

Forgive my French, but precisely that “non-recognition”, or rather, its “consequences” became for President Lukashenko a complete political catastrophe, and above all just in relations with the beloved by many Belarusians of the West. Just (successfully coincided in time!) Going to the polls without the support of Moscow de facto meant political isolation of Lukashenka. For the West, he is a stranger / enemy, for very many in Belarus, he was already absolutely unacceptable. Many here do not want to understand that without any “agents of the State Department” already in zero, many Belarusians openly hated Lukashenko.

You say he has a low rating today? What do you mean? And when was he tall? Lukashenko’s superpopularity is largely a product of propaganda (he didn’t spare the money for it!). That is, in fact, his position before the elections was peak, no one supports him, there is no money ... there was only one scenario left - the forceful one, which was realized. Acceleration and severe beating of demonstrators. Arrests and Courts. Such is the "popularity", such is the "people's love." As a result, the EU elections did not recognizeUSA elections did not recognize. (And for some reason, Lukashenka did not recognize Abkhazia for some reason ... why, with such a scenario?)

Belarusian propaganda prefers to openly lie, stating that these sanctions are a consequence of the “pro-Russian policy of Minsk”. A little bit wrong, the sanctions imposed on Belarus are the result of frankly wild methods of holding power by one unique character. That is, having avoided “violation of international law” in the case of South Ossetia, Mr. Lukashenko received an economic crisis, growing dissatisfaction, problems in electing his beloved, violent suppression of this discontent and ... the very “Western sanctions” that he allegedly heroically saved the Belarusian nation "Not going in the wake of Moscow".

By the way, yes: Daniel Ortega recognized Ossetia with Abkhazia almost immediately and had no problems. Yes, because by and large in world politics it was not so important. In the sense of "territorial integrity of Georgia." For some reason, the crisis in the elections of 2010 and the general economic crisis of 2010-11 in Belarus are taken to be completely separate from the issue of recognition / non-recognition. But the trick is precisely that these issues were very closely related: Herr Lukashenko literally until the last moment had a chance to solve everything to everyone's complete pleasure, having made that “recognition”. And then everything is “good” again.

That is, this whole crisis 2010-11 could even go in a much softer form, without reaching the "excesses". No, there were problems in the economy, there was discontent, but the decisive factor was the rift with Moscow. Here it is, and all aggravated. 2010-11 are the years of transition from the “paternalistic-socialist” to the openly “repressive-state capitalist” model in Belarus. Everything has become much more serious. "Sharper, darker and harder."

And now the main question: why? Why was chosen such a version of events? Frankly thrash?

Did Lukashenka have any choice at all? For some reason, by definition, we assume that he had the freedom to choose to act on this issue one way or another. But was it so? One gets the serious impression that this option simply did not exist for Mr. Lukashenko. Once again: it is not necessary about “respecting international law” and “maintaining contacts with Europe.” In December, 2010 Lukashenko trampled all the right into the snow and tamped him with batons of special forces. And the question “by recognition” sounded like this: is there life on Mars? That is, in fact was theoretical and hypothetical.

Recognize Lukashenko Y. Ossetia with Abkhazia, that would change little in the political picture of Belarus. So, little thing. And here it is interesting: there is a direct and simple exit through the door on the stairs, but the individual instead crawls through the window, through the fire department (tearing his pants), then jumps onto the asphalt (smashing his face) ... and all this with risk to life and limb. What for? Meaning? Apparently there were some very serious reasons that prevented Mr. Lukashenko from “passing through the front door”. That is, a man who, for the sake of his own power, systematically violated all and all laws, suddenly stopped before a trifle ... sorry. It's not so simple.

“In 2000, the UN Committee against Torture, having reviewed the periodic report on Belarus, noted continuing concerns about disappearances and called on the authorities to“ consider the possibility of creating an independent impartial governmental and non-governmental national human rights commission with effective powers to, among other things, promote human rights and investigation of all complaints of human rights violations, in particular those relating to the application of the Convention " (wiki).

The only reason for “non-recognition” was not Lukashenko’s decision. That is, the final decision was taken by someone else. No matter how you look at it, no matter how you think about the situation, there is simply no other option. All the rest will have to be discarded. The only reasonable option: someone banned Lukashenko do it. And then Alexander G. was already spinning like in a skillet. In the strangest way, the very war of the "Three Eight" very hard hit on in no way directly into it is not involved Belarus. Yes, the 2010-11 crisis is the most direct consequence of that war.

Lukashenka could very easily “bounce off” by signing a few meaningful documents and closing that question (Belarusian special forces are too valuable to be sent to war). But he acted differently. And this decision dealt a “hardest blow” to the “regime”: all the masks had to be dropped and turned to direct repression. Before 2010, in principle, Alexander Lukashenko had serious support (both in Belarus and in Russia!), And then everything changed. That is, no illusions, fantasies and references to a certain right are needed: the decision on Ossetia was gigantic and monstrous for Lukashenko personally, but the interested parties are looking for a “plus” to this day. But do not find.

But if someone is external banned Lukashenko to make such a decision, then all rises to its place. The picture is folded. It happens in life that your boss makes you act in a very unfavorable way for you. Maximum unprofitable. And no "explanation" does not want to listen. That's an order. This is exactly the case. Sovereign and indestructible Alexander Grigorievich looked as foolish as possible: for the sake of the “continuation of the banquet” of the “socially oriented” state (and his own popularity among the people!), He had to take a small piece of paper. But he could not do this categorically.

As a matter of fact, the Russian-Belarusian discussion has been revolving around this small episode (and for world politics this is exactly the case!) For 10 for years. And it spins endlessly. You must agree that in the “Square” version and Belarus, which does not depend on anyone, it looks more than strange, well, why should you take a decision that is so obviously unfavorable and disastrous in its foreign and domestic policy? What for?

There is no need if you make the most important decisions yourself, but if someone else does it for you, then yes ... this “other” may have completely different interests. The clue to the “non-recognition” lies precisely here: Lukashenko did not have the opportunity to make a “other” decision. Did not have he has no “other” choice. If we take this unexpected point of view, then everything becomes clear very quickly: then just all the actions of the Belarusian leadership look quite logical.

They are simply making monstrous efforts to keep control of the situation in 2010 / 2011. At that moment, when literally everything flies to hell. The guys are working literally around the clock unceasingly. Russian aid has drastically reduced and the economy is pouring in ... dissatisfaction is growing ... ahead of the election of the only and beloved "president". After the election, the financial crisis and in February 2011 (that is, immediately after the election!) The last time in the press mentions the “unique Belarusian model” ... because there is no longer any “unique model”.

That is, 2010 is the “election year” under the most difficult conditions, and 2011 is the year of the financial crisis (immediately after the election). And the “election year” ended in brutal beating of demonstrators, mass arrests (including seven presidential candidates!), That is, the political regime itself completely compromised both in the eyes of Belarusian voters and in the eyes of the West (allegedly for the sake of friendship 2 Republic). This is a flop, bro! And the “victorious” 2011 was characterized by the collapse of the Belarusian financial system ... and the terrorist attack in the Minsk metro.

It was then that Lukashenko was forced to sell Beltransgaz. By the way, we have an “interesting” economic cooperation with the Belarusians: they carried out the only action that Russia needed, in essence being on the edge of an economic abyss. That is, they were "very strongly forced" to do this. There was no other way, and so far they are very sorry about it. Such is the "economic cooperation". Do not agree? Name at least one major successful joint economic project with the Belarusians ... We ask affectionately.

And this is the 25 years of "integration." But, returning to our “non-recognition”, it is impossible not to note the extreme degree of strangeness of this decision from the point of view of Mr. Lukashenko and his entourage. It doesn’t draw on “caprice” or “quirk”, it cost too much, and to this day Lukashenka has to “pay the bills”. For all its "unusual and unusual" - it is a bit too much. The logic “we are your best allies, but in Tskhinval we are for Saakashvili” is “difficult to sell” in Russia.

Well, as if this very logic of “external intervention” fits very well with the “non-placement” of the Russian VKS base. How would the “two captains” meet in Moscow, they discussed everything “in an adult way” (the Belarusians are very fond of this approach, they say, the two presidents will meet and decide everything). After that, there, Mr. Shoigu was already going to prepare a base in the Republic of Belarus ... and then Lukashenko, returning home, suddenly declared that he did not know about any base, he had not heard of it.

Gentlemen, do not you think that this is a little over all boundaries? If the issue of locating the VKS base should not be discussed with Lukashenko, then ... with whom? Or do you really think that, without reaching an agreement with the president of Belarus, Putin rushed to place a base there from the bay-flounder? Does it not seem more logical that, acting from the position of the “most important”, Lukashenka in Moscow “shook hands”, and then ... he was corrected and forced play back?

And (let us put aside the military-strategic moment, which is secondary in this case), the situation turned out to be frankly, defiantly stupid ... the matter is not even “pro-Russian”, the matter is elementary logic: first we have complex and long “mega-talks” with a “strong leader”, then during of the very "difficult negotiations" we reach certain "agreements", and then ... they are canceled unilaterally. Explicit order.

Belarusians like to point out that Moscow has not coordinated “counter-sanctions” with Lukashenka, yes, yes, it is possible. But the base just agreed. And what's the point? I know the following argument - Belarus is "unprofitable." “Interesting” such an approach to international agreements ... But seriously, then somehow there is a strong suspicion that the matter is not Alexander Grigorievich’s difficult and complicated “Karachter”, but something else.

No, the myth of a strict and tough leader who leads humanity with an iron hand, ugh, Belarusians, fortunately, looks beautiful, but the truth is not quite similar. Doubts loom. The domination of the “Litvinsky-Polish” propaganda is in fact not useful for the current regime. If you think about it like this ... A complete ideological-political break with Russia (and that’s what we have today!) Is fatal for Belarus.

If we put emotions aside, then the whole strategic course of the Belarusian state looks rather “technocratically” rather strange ... Who is behind all this? Lukashenko? Are you sure? In the excessive "depth of planning" no one suspected him yet. Or is Lukashenka just a “public figure”? Such a powerful, beautiful, "significant", but ... "figure", and someone else makes a strategic decision? You must agree that for Lukashenka personally it was normal to be re-elected and to avoid the shame of the “Godfather Father” was an order of magnitude more important than any “territorial integrity” of certain “tangerine republics”.

You see, the trouble is that all the “explanations” of Lukashenka’s actions (and this is really Lukashenko?) Practically explain nothing. If he "slyly and cynically" acted to his own advantage - this is one thing. Yes, not quite beautiful but is logical. The trouble is that there is no logic at all. In terms of benefits. It acts somehow crookedly and obliquely. Here is the creation of the very super-powerful pro-Western “opposition” (today most of the youth and intellectuals in Belarus are pro-Western) - do you really believe that it was very profitable for Lukashenko? Do not you think that this is somehow wildly: for Poles Lukashenko is a “non grata” person, as well as for Lithuanians, active subversive work has been and is being conducted from the territory of these countries against the regime of Alexander Grigorievich ... - this is what the doctor prescribed ... (this is how, under Brezhnev, officially agitate for America).

What kind of political suicide? I will say more, Belarus in no way 17 does not celebrate September - “Day of Unification”, which, in theory, should be one of the main holidays. In general, this date of the unification of eastern and western Belarus is defiantly ignored, but in the newspapers they openly write that the Belarusians ... were the victims of the Hitler-Stalin attack (the Belarusians are quite logical to be considered as Polish subjects). In general, the Belarusian press actively promotes the idea of ​​Belarus as “Poland-minus”. Russia has been assigned the role of the enemy ...

What is the “profit” of the current government, it is very difficult to understand, almost impossible. A kind of "Ukraine-2", a chronicle of national suicide. That's just who did it all come up? Lukashenko? Are you seriously? How much we didn’t know about him ... maybe he is still reading Schopenhauer at bedtime? You know, very unlikely. Rather, all this is someone else came up with. Too clear, competent and thoughtful campaign is going in Belarus to promote the "Western values" and spit on Russia. Read the Belarusian press - it is almost all pro-Western.

No, if it were “pro-Belarusian” - this is understandable, but there Belarus is not very good, Poland is fine, Russia is the enemy. And so writes almost the entire Belarusian press. At the same time, Poland does not give the official Minsk anything, it is fighting with it ... As a result, as has already been said, the pro-Western mood in Belarus, relations with Russia are spoiled tightly ... And is this all Lukashenko? What for? We must be able to decipher the “Belarusian political jargon”: “friendship with Russia” is the readiness to live at its expense and nothing more, “protecting the national interests of Belarus” is de facto promoting the interests of Poland ... such things. That is, there is a sign - this is one thing, the reality is always something completely different.

At that moment, when the most severe struggle of Russophobes is going on in the leadership of the Republic of Belarus, it’s ridiculous to talk about some kind of “union”. In general, of course, Lukashenka was “brought under the monastery” simply masterfully: the basis of his strength was Russia's support: financial, political, and economic. But he receives information about the world around him from a very narrow circle of people (environment). He completely depends on this environment in the conditions of popular dislike and powerful opposition (pro-Western!). But, in the end, his surroundings in the strangest way turned out to be completely pro-Western (and, perhaps, someone supervised ...) "Smishno", isn't it? So much for the “almighty dictator” ... That is why all the recent “negotiations” with Putin were absolutely meaningless. And this is precisely why this summer Putin decided to actually abandon the one-on-one negotiation format with Lukashenka, because this format does not work with Belarus. Just “expanded” - an attempt to pull into the light of God Belarusian “gray cardinals”. And yes, there is nothing unique here. Even Stalin ate his favorite device in the end (there is such a version).
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  1. +12
    11 December 2018 05: 45
    That is, Lukashenko was literally “punished,” but he did not recognize South Ossetia with Abkhazia. Such a tender friendship.

    Starts to get bored. Ivan nods at Peter, and Peter at Ivan. And who was kicked in Russia and who kicked specifically that a statement was made:
    "There will be no revision of the results of privatization, but if there have been violations of the law and the Prosecutor's Office reacts to this, I cannot prevent it," he stressed (Who is he belay ?), noting that this is outside the scope of his authority.

    We in Russia cannot determine who is ruling it and what "cunning plans" he has.
    1. +24
      11 December 2018 06: 02
      Well, with Russia it’s more or less clear! Who still controls it, the German Minich, long ago, correctly noted:"Russia is ruled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists.", and since Belaya Rus, there is one whole with Russia, then there is such a lady baida ... laughing
      1. 0
        11 December 2018 06: 53
        Quote: Finches
        and there is such a lady baida ...

        With the "baida" too much.
        The rest is true. Russia under God. And White as well.
        That's why we live.

        But the German as an author to present it is at least illiterate.

        We have been Orthodox for hundreds of years.

        And Chubais himself will die. And the loot there will not help him.
        1. -15
          11 December 2018 09: 13
          The Republic of Belarus exclusively under Lukoshenko. The Republic of Belarus has no relation whatsoever to Alba Russia or Russie blanche even territorially, with the latter name referring mainly to the Moscow state.
          1. +5
            11 December 2018 10: 13
            You are mistaken. You. Are mistaken ... Like Professor Pleischner. Having confused the "Moscow State" (within the boundaries of the Garden Ring) and Russia ..
            1. -1
              11 December 2018 12: 07
              I do not give a damn. White Russia, this is a Western European invention, here to them. Although Ivan III, was listed as the king of White Russia once so. laughing
              1. -2
                12 December 2018 17: 50
                And here I am from a long and ornate presentation of one thought that someone still controls Belarus, and I did not understand who!
                Okay, Lukashenko is the vice chairman.
                And who is Bender?
                AU! Author!!!
                1. +1
                  12 December 2018 19: 58
                  The author writes that behind Lukashenka's duplicity are hidden "gray cardinals" from his entourage, who, in turn, sympathize with Poland. You know better from Belarus. I hope you clearly expressed the idea of ​​the author.
                  1. -1
                    13 December 2018 20: 08
                    Well, in Belarus there is definitely no gray over the main cardinal!
                    Mauger somewhere else?
                    1. 0
                      13 December 2018 21: 14
                      Maybe you're right. You are not the first with whom I communicate from Belarus. I have a question for you as well as for everyone. What gives you independence? Key positions or some kind of national identity. Was there even a desire in the Republic of Ingushetia to secede and not consider itself Russian? It was interesting to find out.
                      1. +2
                        13 December 2018 21: 31
                        Personally, nothing to me! Moreover, the constant moral burden is Russian itself, all relatives in Russia, but Belarus is its own. Cool was a republic within the Union.
                        Now it’s not at all ...
                      2. +3
                        14 December 2018 10: 50
                        You are not the first with whom I communicate from Belarus. I have a question for you like everyone else. I have a question for you like everyone else. What gives you independence?


                        Chuystvo svabody ... laughing
                      3. 0
                        14 December 2018 11: 09
                        Rather
                        Separated from Russia, they live in the theory that they would be better off living as in the picture of a happy Europe.
      2. +3
        11 December 2018 09: 11
        Yes, exactly so - Russia is governed by God and over Russia the Protection of the Virgin. It’s not nice, Zyablitsov, to talk about this in such a context.
        As for Belarus, there will be no sense until the Belarusians understand that they are part of the Russian people, and Russia their only great homeland.
        1. +6
          11 December 2018 10: 44
          And how should Belarusians understand this, if it is forbidden to Russians in the Russian Federation. And what happened to the Russians in Donbas, who believed the hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation?
          1. +5
            11 December 2018 12: 06
            Quote: ruigat
            And what happened to the Russians in Donbas, who believed the hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation?

            Donbass with odgim "s" write in Ukraine Donbass is spelled in Russian.
            1. -6
              11 December 2018 14: 35
              Donbass with odgim "s" write in Ukraine Donbass is spelled in Russian.

              Odgim is written in the State Department or victims of the exam, in Russian it is written with one.
              1. +3
                12 December 2018 14: 51
                Quote: ruigat
                victims of the exam, in Russian is written with one.

                Pazzstalom!))))))))))) DONBASS - DONetsk coal basin.
      3. 0
        11 December 2018 17: 54
        Quite the contrary, everything is incomprehensible with Russia since the days of the USSR, the signed agreement on the abolition of the USSR by three half-drunk in Bialowieza DOES NOT HAVE LEGAL LAW, because the signatories did not have ANYTHING AUTHORITY, which means the document is insignificant without consequences ..... and further different tricks with fraud in the 1996 presidential election, when the winner is Zyuganov’s votes, then BN Yeltsin’s TWIN board last 2 years, and the appointment of Acting President VV Putin as an incomplete President’s double, is also invalid - a continuous looking glass in the Russian Federation to this day ..... According to Lukashenko and Belarus, one cannot demand dog fidelity and reflexes from the state, no matter how unrelated friendship, to recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia, political attitude, and here Belarus can also fall into such a situation, therefore not in a hurry to admit ... The author is a little ignorant in interstate relations, but we will forgive, like a loser, and leave for after lessons ...
      4. +1
        16 December 2018 00: 08
        The writer Leskov wrote: "Russia is ruled by the grace of God and the stupidity of the people!"
  2. +8
    11 December 2018 05: 51
    Too clear, competent and thoughtful campaign is going on in Belarus to promote "Western values" and spitting on Russia. Read the Belarusian press - it is almost all pro-Western.
    No, if it was “pro-Belarusian” - that’s understandable, but Belarus is not very good there, Poland is fine, Russia is the enemy
    damn politicians want to fool another Slavic people ...
    1. +7
      11 December 2018 06: 23
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      damn politicians want to fool another Slavic people ...

      I have a timid assumption that most of the "damn politicians" are not Slavs at all and no further, as tomorrow it may turn out that these husbands secretly visit their mistress:

      or like this:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTXUJbhMrdI
      1. +3
        12 December 2018 14: 18
        the mistress is said but in fact there is a "synagogue", you can see on the lips of Mordyukova
        1. +1
          12 December 2018 14: 57
          Quote: Igoresha
          but actually

          What a straightforward you are)) This lip trick has been known for a very long time, and it seems that the respected ROSS 42 wrote about "these husbands" in this very context. Well, what is it, they do not understand jokes at all on VO))
    2. +1
      11 December 2018 06: 32
      quietly begin to hate
      And what will the Belarusians themselves say?
      someone forbade Lukashenko to do this.
      And we are unlikely to find out - WHO?
  3. +2
    11 December 2018 06: 10
    Belarus does not celebrate September 17 - “Day of Unification”
    ... And under what "sauce" of bourgeois Belarus, to celebrate, in fact, a Soviet holiday? ... Here on this day you need to say thank you to Comrade Stalin, and this is bad manners ... History gives bad grades, for their study, only to students in fig ...
    1. +8
      11 December 2018 12: 09
      Then one very knowledgeable comrade told me some backstage things at the last forum where Lukashenko got nervous. So he angered a few people ... He was told something like this - if in the USSR you had the right to self-determination right up to the exit, now you have the right to the entrance!
    2. +1
      11 December 2018 12: 28
      Quote: parusnik
      ... And under what "sauce" of bourgeois Belarus, to celebrate, in fact, a Soviet holiday? ... Here on this day you need to say thank you to Comrade Stalin, but this is bad manners today ..

      C'mon, for the authorities and the media this is a completely solvable problem. We learned how to celebrate Victory Day with virtually no mention of IVS.
      I’ll tell you more - it’s quite possible to celebrate the Day of Association, while blaming the ITT. For example, blame the failure of the Polish campaign on him (which led to the rejection of Western lands), and polish it with howls about the repressions of the Belarusian intelligentsia.
      1. +4
        11 December 2018 12: 57
        I will tell you more - it is possible to celebrate the Unification Day, while accusing the ITT. For example, to blame the failure of the Polish campaign (which led to the rejection of the western lands


        The idea is possible, but they have:
        1 very few educated people in the manual.
        2 "propole vector" selected (Poland as a sample)
        That is, the "success of the Polish campaign" does not roll at all - the Poles are superhumans and genuine Europeans (according to their version of reality)
        1. +2
          11 December 2018 13: 16
          Quote: Olezhek
          2 "propole vector" selected (Poland as a sample)
          That is, the "success of the Polish campaign" does not roll at all - the Poles are superhumans and genuine Europeans (according to their version of reality)

          Ahhh ... if not ___________ (enter the necessary), then would have been drinking coffee in Warsaw would be one with the civilized European world. Familiar song.
  4. +3
    11 December 2018 06: 24
    Lukashenko is a hypocrite, repeatedly confirmed his status. Lukashenko understands that Belarus is a meaningless state, with independence in quotation marks, trying to prove its necessity, essence. Separated from Russia, they live in the theory that they would be better off living as in the picture of a happy Europe. Hence Russophobia and Poland are a mother. Forgetting the modest fact, Minsk rebuilt Russia from scratch.
    1. +2
      12 December 2018 15: 01
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      Belarus is a meaningless state

      There are no meaningless states! If it (the state) exists, then someone needs it. And these somebody have not bad gesheft from the existence of the state, even if according to your logic it is pointless))
      1. +1
        12 December 2018 15: 21
        Correctly written. Thank you for the educational program "divide and conquer."
  5. +4
    11 December 2018 06: 24
    Who rules Russia .... !!! ???
  6. -3
    11 December 2018 06: 39
    Well, if you recall who brought Lukashenko to power, and this is Evgeny Primakov and Henry Kissinger, then a lot of things become clear ...
    1. +18
      11 December 2018 06: 56
      He himself came - I myself voted for him then request
      Just the way you vote for Medvedev with Putin wink
  7. -7
    11 December 2018 06: 41
    And it was not too lazy to depict so many letters ?! Uncle, are you from Dozhd? Or "Echo" coco something ?! You can't figure it out in yourself, but you are climbing into another country. Or Belarus (by the way, the state is called the Republic of Belarus) for you, as Russia (or the RSFSR, if you follow your logic) for your Anglo-Saxon partners ?!
    1. +11
      11 December 2018 06: 51
      Quote: Retired Lieutenant Colonel
      Or Belarus (by the way, the state is called the Republic of Belarus)

      When we explain thoughts in Russian, then we write - Belarus. But
      Quote: Retired Lieutenant Colonel
      if you follow your logic
      for example, should Beijing be called Bejin?
    2. +2
      11 December 2018 08: 57
      Belarus (my mother's homeland) could become our ally. But she doesn't want to. Those are just some puppeteers, not only Lukashenka, but also the mass of the Belarusian people. And it's funny. Reminds the riots of a fourteen-year-old teenager, dependent on his father in everything, but furiously proving to him that he, a teenager, is much more intelligent, independent and successful than the pathetic "daddy".
      But the problem is that teenagers are the newest invention. Previously, there was no "adolescence" at all. The kid either became an adult, or died of hunger, or he was killed for nonsense. And that's all. It is too much food accumulated inside the countries to feed the stupid idiots and tolerate their idiotic antics. Outside - the Middle Ages. Here they kill for nonsense as of old.
      We endured for a very long time, as the article rightly noted. Now, two options. First, we are leaving you. We don’t need you too much, you are like that. Survive. And the second - we "climb". Choose ...
      1. +5
        11 December 2018 10: 51
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Those are just some puppeteers, not just Lukashenko,

        There are no puppeteers. Just those who grabbed a piece of the USSR and lives at its expense, have a terrible dream every night about how everything is taken from them back.
        Hence the non-recognition of those who changed their minds and decided to return to Russia, and the cultivation of nationalism from there, and there, it was not far from Nazism with fascism, as the Ukrainians did.
    3. +6
      11 December 2018 12: 48
      Quote: Retired Lieutenant Colonel
      You can’t figure it out yourself, but you’re climbing into another country.

      What did you think? Even a brotherhood cannot be one-sided. And for loans, quotas and reduced prices, on the one hand, the other side should be the first to provide at least some support. And the situation when "as financial assistance - so the fraternal people, and as they ask for something in return - so soon a sovereign state"leads to only one thing: a sovereign state - sovereign prices.
      Quote: Retired Lieutenant Colonel
      Or Belarus (by the way, the state is called the Republic of Belarus)

      You tell Deutschland, Alemania or Russland. smile
  8. +2
    11 December 2018 06: 54
    but in the newspapers openly write that the Belarusians ... were the victims of the Hitler-Stalin attack (Belarusians are quite logically considered as Polish subjects). In general, the Belarusian press is actively promoting the idea of ​​Belarus as "Poland minus." Russia was assigned the role of the enemy ...

    belay Egorov fool stop Specify these editions, pzhalsta, or a reference
    So it’s really really interesting to me now, but honestly - Oleg, do you (it is you, not the Russians) really REALLY hate us that such articles appear or is it a banal ordering (like, I was told and I write - babos pay that)?
    Or a personal vendetta with Lukashenko? what
    Egorov, I have to go to work, in the evening I read more winked
    1. +2
      11 December 2018 07: 12
      Specify these editions, pzhalsta, or a reference


      Rurikovich, how would you like to read the Belarusian press?
      1) why does it never discuss the "If NATO attacks" scenario?
      instead of "If Russia tries to repeat the Donbass scenario"?

      2) Why Poland in the comments of the Belarusians - always Poland (100% of cases) Poles are always Poles. IS ALWAYS
      Baltic States and Balts always called only in accordance with the official version
      those. Lithuania-Lithuanians Latvia-Latvians Estonia-Estonians. In 100% of cases. In CTA!
      Ukraine and Ukrainians - always Ukraine and Ukrainians !!! I have never met any nicknames.
      Germany and Germans, America and Americans.
      Nicknames are not used never and no!


      Well, as a nice exception, "Russia" and "rusmir / gritty" ...
      Thank you hi
      1. +11
        11 December 2018 08: 40
        I am the daughter of an officer ... pah. I took the wrong training manual.
        I am Minsker, born, raised and live here. what kind of press is the stuffing in which they pump about Russia?

        onliner? tut.by? ONT site? announce the list, otherwise it looks like some kind of stuffing and it looks like an order
        1. +2
          11 December 2018 08: 48
          In the ranking are millions of views:

          1. News Tut.by - 47,725 (all portal - 157,092)
          2. News Onliner.by - 40,091 (all portal - 184,428)
          3. NN.by / Nasha Niva - 8,108
          4. Kp.by / Komsomolskaya Pravda in Belarus - 7,266
          5. Pressball.by - 7,102
          6. Belarusian partisan - 5,911
          7. BelTA - 4,390
          8. By.tribuna.com - 4,048
          9. Citydog.by - 3,384
          10. Naviny.by - 3,02


          The author has been reading tut.by for many years.
          (taking the opportunity I want to advertise it!) hi
          Hello tut.by !!!!

          What a press ... what a press ...
        2. +8
          11 December 2018 08: 50
          but the newspapers openly write that the Belarusians ... were the victim of an attack by Hitler-Stalin

          it's not just a shame, for this you can get in the forehead.
          annual celebrations of the May 9th parade, rebuilt the Second World War Museum with new exhibits, monuments to Pushkin in regional cities are being opened, the holiday of November 7th was saved.
          HATY! remember grieve. 3 July Independence Day - DAY of liberation from the Nazis.

          author, you are leading
          1. +5
            11 December 2018 09: 00
            it's not just a shame, for this you can get in the forehead.

            HATY! remember grieve. 3 July Independence Day - DAY of liberation from the Nazis.


            In vain you are so ...

            75 years since the Khatyn tragedy. Who and for what destroyed the Belarusian village
            https://news.tut.by/culture/585925.html

            comments of modern Belarusians
            In fairness, you need not only to tell about the atrocities of the fascists, but also the same guerrillas, communists, security officers. So that the youth know about the atrocities of the last century, so that in this century there was a peaceful sky over our country, and not only this century.


            Provocation of partisans led to tragedy.


            The guerrilla movement in the form in which it existed in the Second World War brought harm to the Belarusians than to the Germans. Our people were used as hostages from both sides. Some and others killed and intimidated the people to achieve their goals, one to feed and replenish their ranks, others to create whole deserted areas in which the partisans have no place to requisition food and deprive a foothold. And for our rulers for peace it is easier to talk about merit of the guerrillas than about the great damage from it to our people.


            Guerrillas that could not protect the Belarusian village from destruction, probably after the war went to the war heroes


            Kremlin propaganda is trying to blame the Ukrainians for the burning of Khatyn, trying to make it so that the whole police battalion consisted of Ukrainians, and in fact, as correctly noted in the article, there were RUSSIAN. And not only Russians and Ukrainians .....


            This happened because of the partisans who set the village as a human shield.



            Your grandma think and know who did not know the Communists, not that Bandera, do not throw everything in a heap, how to grow. tv to listen to these Bandera people everywhere, and even the poor grandmothers see the store in a shop, we have had enough of our policemen, and the Russian units and divisions under the Wehrmacht walked nemeryanno, and the Ukrainian nationalists were embittered at the councils.


            https://talks.by/showthread.php?t=14362665

            It is possible and in the forehead ... only to whom ???
            1. +7
              11 December 2018 09: 07
              those. not too lazy to find comments zmgarov, and gave them for the majority opinion?
              well, so now I will look for the comments of the white-collar workers and pass them off as the voice of the people of Russia.

              you somehow separate the flies from cutlets. for attributing Hitler, I’m burning really. barely holding back from the mat.
              1. +2
                11 December 2018 09: 22
                those. not too lazy to find comments zmgarov, and gave them for the majority opinion?


                And what to look for them?
                Go to the link to first page comments and read ...
                1. +6
                  11 December 2018 09: 31
                  here from this month there will be fewer such comments.
                  to you note
                  http://www.pravo.by/novosti/obshchestvenno-politicheskie-i-v-oblasti-prava/2018/november/31487/

                  tut.by although I am a top Internet resource, is a private entity.
                  I don’t even want to comment on the partisans, Navinas, and the rest of the Polish-American dirt from your list. If you want to know the opinions of Belarusians, come to Minsk and see how the country lives and how people breathe.

                  and for Hitler I can’t calm down who I need to be in order to put on a par with Stalin and hang on the whole country in which every third died during the Second World War, the label of Russophobia.
                  1. +3
                    11 December 2018 12: 08
                    tut.by although I am a top Internet resource, is a private entity.
                    I don’t even want to comment on the guerrillas, the Nawns, and the rest of the Polish-American dirt from your list.


                    1 That is, de facto, that popular belpressa, which is - is it Russophobic?

                    2 What about a country whose entire press is "Polish-American filth"? What would you say about such a country?

                    3 If that Lukashenka arrested precisely "pro-Russian" (in fact, just adequate bloggers. But not pro-Polish.
              2. -1
                11 December 2018 17: 42
                Quote: belrus
                well, so now I will look for the comments of the white-collar workers and pass them off as the voice of the people of Russia.

                good drinks
                The most offensive is that many others read such as Yegorov, and on the basis of such material a phobia is inflated in relation to a neighboring country.
                Maybe Yegorov would be better off if we had an attitude towards the Russians, as in the Baltic states, Ukraine, Poland, if he did not like writing at least not one-sided materials about the country .... request
              3. +3
                12 December 2018 07: 55
                you somehow separate the flies from cutlets. for attributing Hitler, I’m burning really. barely holding back from the mat.


                And what to ascribe to it - Belarus is quite normal to treat the SS marches in the Baltic States and the torchlight processions in Ukraine.
                late night already "rush"
                1. 0
                  19 December 2018 08: 08
                  At first you thought what to write !!!! This is in Belarus where every fourth died in the Second World War, where more than 250 villages were burned including Khatyn! ??? Yes. .... jelly. ......
                2. 0
                  23 December 2018 20: 51
                  You know Olezhek, while Lukashenko rules us, there will be no Union State. This is true. The Belarus project is to preserve his personal power. The fact that Lukashenko is normal about torchlight processions and SS marches does not mean that the residents of Belarus are also normal about this.
            2. 0
              11 December 2018 17: 38
              Quote: Olezhek
              In vain you are so ...

              Oleg, in addition to the Pro-Western TUT-buy, which even I, neutrally political, do not think is adequate for the media, you could read something else laughing You see, we would have a different attitude to Belarus wink
          2. BAI
            +6
            11 December 2018 09: 37
            Who is threatening Belarus?

            Russia (59%, 54 Votes)
            No one threatens Belarus (32%, 29 Votes)
            NATO (9%, 8 Votes)
            Ukraine (0%, 0 Votes)

            Number of Voters: 91

            https://bsblog.info/
            - The opposition site.
      2. +1
        11 December 2018 09: 00
        All this is a consequence of the near-Russian elite horror. All these children, to swoon, are afraid of entering Russia, to which their peoples are pushing them. Will be worse.
      3. 0
        11 December 2018 17: 32
        Quote: Olezhek
        Rurikovich, how would you like to read the Belarusian press?

        Oleg, I asked you to SPECIFY name the publication or give links!
        And, if you only read opposition publications like "Narodnaya Volya", THEN THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK TO YOU!
        Because in addition to this garbage dump and the Internet newspaper "Salidarnasts" there are a lot of printed publications and Internet resources, where I have absolutely NEVER seen what you claim request Neither in the local "New Palesse", nor in the regional "Gomel Pravda", nor in the republican "SB-Belarus Today", "Transport Vestnik", "Republic" THIS LIES, which you ascribe to us in your post ... Or Do you count only newspapers in opposition to the official authorities as mass media?
        To be honest, I had a better opinion of you request hi
  9. +3
    11 December 2018 07: 40
    Well done Oleg Egorov! A very balanced article, with a specific selection of facts and arguments! It was read in one breath, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! It would be good to continue with a number of other articles about other sworn "friends" of Russia.
    1. 0
      11 December 2018 07: 53
      And more like there was nobody left wassat
      These are the last
  10. +2
    11 December 2018 07: 51
    . Everything is already clear: Moscow was trying to drag Belarus into the last unnecessary confrontation with the West. But the wise Lukashenko avoided this.

    But maybe no one tried to drag anyone anywhere? Initiated disagreements and deal with the end. Belarus has avoided sanctions, and they have trade with us. Is this not a great opportunity to circumvent sanctions against Russia?
    1. +4
      11 December 2018 08: 20
      Belarus escaped sanctions, and with us they trade.

      1 Belarus "bought off" the sanctions by pursuing a pronounced anti-Russian policy.
      paid off at the expense of Russia, if that
      Is this an excellent opportunity to circumvent sanctions against Russia?

      No, not beautiful. Russia bypasses sanctions, but not through Belarus.
  11. +2
    11 December 2018 09: 10
    And yet, there is no answer to the selfless question. Who controls? All my life I have been living in Belarus (anyone who likes Belarus as much as possible), I feel that the rag doll always thought of little things from Moscow. Now I work in Moscow and I am still convinced that the strings are from here. And accordingly, this one player indulges with himself, like she ... m is engaged. And people are suffering.
  12. +2
    11 December 2018 09: 12
    The ghost of a freebie has corroded the brain of many Belarusians, as before - the Ukrainians. I have half of my relatives from Belarus, they behave as if I owe them something a priori. The nephew, without education and work experience, came to Russia and was looking for a job in order not to work and get "normal". As a result, with a big seal and resentment, I did not find it, I went to study as a sailor.
    1. +2
      11 December 2018 09: 18
      Apparently your relatives are inadequate .... This is your personal misfortune. Bulbashs never were freeloaders.
      1. +3
        11 December 2018 10: 20
        Quote: Rollet
        This is your personal misfortune. Bulbashs never were freeloaders.

        Do you think I only communicate with relatives? I compare with the generation of my parents and their siblings with modern students. The difference is huge.
        Among students, one dream is to bite off grants, then dump abroad.
        When grants run out suddenly, as in Ukraine, discontent among active students will sharply increase. And who took the grants from lured fish? Evil Moscow.
        The scenario is carbon copy, but no one compares. Before the Maidan, there were more than 1500 organizations in Ukraine, with grants from Europe and the USA, and after the Maidan, funding collapsed more than 20 times.
        1. +3
          11 December 2018 12: 04
          Before Maidan in Ukraine there were more than 1500 organizations, with grants from Europe and the USA, and after Maidan, funding collapsed more than 20 times.



          Well, like yes - the goal has been achieved - the country has been "de-democratized".

          For some reason, Russia finances the economy as a whole, while our Western "friends" work with the target audience.
  13. BAI
    0
    11 December 2018 09: 20
    In principle, now the same thing can be written about Trump.
  14. +7
    11 December 2018 09: 31
    I have been living in Minsk all my life, I was born back in the BSSR and found my childhood in the 90s. So before the collapse they lived very poorly, after the collapse 3 years survived on one potato. They planted dripping ate, and here not a drop of exaggeration, I saw meat 3-4 times a year. Then every year it became easier and easier, but with big changes in life, my mother and 3 children had to live in a one-room apartment. The younger sister got married 4 years ago and left, I 3 years ago, although I have long been over 30, i.e. without own housing it was difficult to create a cell of society. But with all this, when I started working, I later forgot as a porter at a construction site but at the same time I remembered what hunger was. The state gave me education, Medetsin, and I’m not afraid to go on the basics, that someone should break my head. We Belarusians live peacefully and quietly, but what they recognized or did not recognize, all this is intrigue, and attempts to split us and Russia, but alas, this is not my fault, I think,
    1. 0
      19 December 2018 03: 45
      Only correct, not to collapse, but as if always, but 90-91g. you probably did not have a father and three children, and since 92g it was better, in 93 generally more or less tolerable, there was everything, there was no money
  15. +4
    11 December 2018 09: 32
    About the non-recognition of Ossetia and Abkhazia ... insulting. But, the author. There is still Crimea. And this is doubly more offensive.
    1. +5
      11 December 2018 13: 12
      Quote: Barkhan
      About the non-recognition of Ossetia and Abkhazia ... insulting

      In addition to non-recognition, there was also the laying of a wreath at the Tbilisi memorial to the heroes who died in the struggle for the territorial integrity of Georgia (military operations in Abkhazia and South Ossetia are included in this struggle). Did this the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Belarus Makei.
      Yes, this action is included in the mandatory program of the official visit. It was only when they tried to propose the same to Lavrov that they received a response - either you exclude this item, or we reduce the rank of the visit. Georgians went on principle. Ours refused the official format of the visit - and nobody began to place anything anywhere.
  16. +2
    11 December 2018 09: 42
    And in my opinion, the article adds fuel to the fire, a pitiful attempt to drive a wedge in relations between Russia and Belarus. What no, but the relationship is, quite normal. Belarus is too small for an independent policy, and there are many Russians living in it. Here the ruling elite is balancing on the brink of economic and political absorption by Russia, they are "independent". The rest of this article, this whole conspiracy theory is just chatter.
  17. +1
    11 December 2018 10: 00
    The article calls for reflection, it is a fact. It’s just not clear what our political leadership thinks, especially about the Belarusian media and how our relations are reflected there.
  18. +2
    11 December 2018 10: 40
    it’s not possible with our squinting ones! One stupidity is sitting around (godfathers, brothers, svatya) Zurabov chernymyrdiny or outright traitors warmed by the president.
  19. +3
    11 December 2018 12: 03
    Another very smart, thoughtful and deep article by Oleg Egorov.
    At first, I did not quite agree with the author. Left the folly of Lukashenko, as the second version of the explanation of his actions. But the argument of the "base" outweighed everything.
    Lukashenko, of course, can be crazy, but in order to seriously agree on the base, and then upon arrival "home to the house" to abandon the agreements? Here you need a very serious influence. Such influence can come only from the immediate environment. Including mainly relatives.
    So, the author is right in everything. There is an irresistible anti-Russian influence on Lukashenko. The influence is so serious that he refuses himself. The Kremlin has not learned how to overcome this influence and is unlikely to be able to.
  20. +1
    11 December 2018 12: 33
    Yeah ... Powerfully pushed, no questions. And we have "zmagars" and you, too. With which I congratulate you. Although the old man is tired of it, he successfully closes such "authors". For which many thanks to him.
    1. -1
      11 December 2018 14: 57
      So in the photo to the article’s article, a lady in a white-chyrvonno-white scarf, BNF, however, blinks with riot police. It seems that the author eats from the same boiler with them (zmagars) if he advertises them and their sites.
    2. +2
      12 December 2018 07: 57
      Although the old man is tired of it, he successfully closes such "authors". For which many thanks to him.


      Belarus tse Europe ...

      And yes, those who "drown" for NATO and against Russia feel quite at ease.
  21. 0
    11 December 2018 13: 27
    Quote: Detective
    Belarusians will not understand that they are part of the Russian people

    I recommend reading (watching) the official Belarusian information channels. There Belarusians do not deny the Russian people in any way. If you read what Olezhek recommends, then yes, then of course ... smile hi
    1. 0
      11 December 2018 13: 48
      If we assume that someone is behind the decisions of the President of Belarus ... and his stubbornness is not his desire ... then the question is ... and this or those who are behind him, what place they hold him for, or rather, it turns out they have against it is such that outweighs all reasonable arguments? the question is what? well, just like that, a person with an open eye cannot become a puppet?
      Another question .. please recall, Kazakhstan recognized the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and the fact that our Crimea?
  22. +2
    11 December 2018 13: 34
    Or maybe just some guys froze Mr. Lukashenko’s personal billions in offshore companies.
    1. +1
      11 December 2018 14: 25
      Or maybe just some guys froze Mr. Lukashenko’s personal billions in offshore companies.
      For a long time it was ... the youth does not remember. Lukashenko’s accounts have already been sought, and the CIA, etc. He said: find - take away ... and still silence, yes silence, as if in a cemetery ... smile hi (this is not me, this is Vysotsky).
      1. +3
        11 December 2018 16: 30
        And you can not pick up and just threaten to pick up ...
        1. +1
          11 December 2018 17: 07
          So they threatened to pick it up, as far as I remember - they never found it. Yes, and there is no need to threaten, just show these accounts to our "zmagars" ... oh, what would happen, you have no idea smile
          1. +2
            12 December 2018 07: 59
            So they threatened to pick it up, as far as I remember — they never found it.

            And there is no need to threaten, just show these accounts to our "zmagars"


            it is enough to show these accounts to their owners and explain what will happen in case of "bad behavior".
            1. 0
              12 December 2018 16: 09
              So why not show ... al showed already? I do not believe! Time will tell. Lukashenko will stay in Belarus, or wash off somewhere. Here time will judge us.
              1. +2
                12 December 2018 19: 43
                So why not show ... al showed already?


                read the article
                When a state leader acts clearly against his obvious interests - this is suspicious.
                1. -1
                  14 December 2018 14: 09
                  When a state leader acts clearly against his obvious interests, this is suspicious [/ quote]
                  [quote = Olezhek]
                  So why not show ... al showed already?

                  read the article

                  Question: when does a state leader act clearly against their obvious interests, or against the interests of their state. Against their own - I clearly see, against the interests of their state - time will show and judge.
                  And I read and read your articles. I especially liked the bridge with a crack ... I hinted to you during the discussion that no one was safe from this, Russia too. The bridge is already working for us, in Russia it fell. This is not gloating. I mean, you do not need to look for logs in the eyes of others. This is life, something, somewhere, it will always break, fall ... make this a problem at the state level - not comme il faut, my opinion.
      2. +1
        11 December 2018 17: 01
        Quote: Sewer Krainiy
        Lukashenko’s accounts have already been sought, and the CIA, etc.

        We also had officials who "did not have" accounts, and they also said:
        Quote: Sewer Krainiy
        find - take away ...

        then there were Panamanian documents ...
  23. -2
    11 December 2018 14: 32
    How familiar everything is! In 2012, the same was written for Yanukovych. Lukashenko learned a lesson, voila!
    That is why there is no base, that is why he did not recognize Abkhazia and Ossetia! For the theoretical calculations and passages like someone disappeared and the tyrant of Europe numbered van, this is one. But official recognition closes EVERYTHING! windows for father. Well, Russia's behavior towards Belarus is very inadequate in economic terms. What TV is pouring is one thing, what is it in reality? Let's not talk about sad things.
    P.S. But father took into account the lessons of Ukraine and made conclusions. The base is not comme il faut, for humans are green and quick retirement and the inability to put on the throne of life a small one. Although he does not count on it.
    1. +2
      11 December 2018 14: 36
      And what is the inadequacy of Russia's behavior in relation to Belarus?
      1. -1
        11 December 2018 14: 40
        My opinion is the inadequacy of the media, the opp of Russian and Belarusian. And the leadership will figure it out without ...
      2. -1
        11 December 2018 15: 57
        We look at the contract! We look at the implementation of both one and the other side! We see through and do not ask stupid questions. Profit!
        1. +2
          11 December 2018 16: 18
          Have you personally read the contracts for the supply of oil and gas? Why did Lukashenka hysteria at the last meeting and then apologize? Is it because he is behaving inappropriately? Why there are no such outbursts and trade wars with Kazakhstan?
          Are we not supplying them with gas and oil at the prices that we agreed on? We are supplying ... only Belarus, for some reason, drives sanctions through and through itself, resells oil and gasoline from our oil to Ukraine ...
          1. -1
            11 December 2018 17: 49
            for some reason, only Belarus drives the sanctions through and through itself, resells oil and gasoline from our oil to Ukraine ...
            Well, as much as possible ... Already on the VO resource it has been said a lot that Russia (oligarchs) is driving oil products to Ukraine many times more. Do not read ???
    2. +4
      11 December 2018 17: 46
      Quote: dgonni
      But official recognition closes EVERYTHING! windows for father.

      You see what’s the matter ... you can’t sit on two chairs forever. Judging by the rhetoric of our powers that be, official non-recognition also can already close all the windows for father, but already in the east. If you don’t want to support the policy of Russia - well, no one captives you. But then I'm sorry, there will be no more preferences - everything is on general conditions. What is the point of supporting those from whom for 10 years there is no return?
      Quote: dgonni
      Well, Russia's behavior towards Belarus is very inadequate in economic terms.

      Yeah ... "We will never sell you the MZKT ... How dare you start duplicate developments - you still will not succeed, because you have no brains". smile
      About brains - this is not a polemic exaggeration, but a quote from father:
      We are scared that Russia, they say, will invent its “centipedes” and will transport nuclear warheads on its own - and on health! If they have brains and money today that they don’t have, let them invent!
    3. +3
      12 December 2018 12: 25
      In the year 2012 the same was written for Yanukovych. Lukashenko learned a lesson, voila!


      That is why there is no base, that is why he did not recognize Abkhazia and Ossetia!


      I did not understand that - that is, in 2008, did Lukashenko learn a lesson for 2012? belay
      Cool!

      I also want a time machine and a mustache like papykoli ...
  24. +5
    11 December 2018 16: 01
    Still easier. Do not multiply entities unnecessarily. For the elite of all post-Soviet states without exception, the greatest danger is the return to Russia. The stronger Russia is, the worse we will have relations with all, without exception, the former republics of the USSR. This is an axiom and one must be prepared for this. request
    Belarus is no exception. And Old Man clearly said this publicly. He said plainly that the biggest danger to the Republic of Belarus is that it could become part of another state. I think it’s not necessary to talk about which state we are talking about? request Obviously not about Ukraine.
    But without Russian money Luka will not be able to maintain Belarusian "socialism". Therefore, he has to turn himself out. To be “friends” with the Russian Federation and at the same time not to let it inside Belarus in all spheres of life - economy, politics and defense. His political system is basically the same as in Azerbaijan, for example. The power of one family, supported by power elites. He is going to transfer this power to his children, as Aliyev to his son. What if the Russian Federation does not agree to this? Therefore, one of the main tasks of Papakoli is by all means to prevent Russia from gaining at least some leverage over the situation in Belarus. THIS IS WHY LUKA IS TRYING TO DO NOT ALLOW THE CREATION OF A RUSSIAN BASE IN THE TERRITORY OF THE RB. He is not afraid of a war with the West and that NATO will strike Belarus from three sides. He is afraid that the Russian base will become a factor in the internal politics of Belarus.
    The same goes for resisting any attempts of our business to own something in the territory of the Republic of Belarus. All this nonsense about malicious oligarchs who dream of ruining the successful industry of a small but proud country will be left unicellular. If we have one economic space and the Republic of Belarus wants to have the same energy prices, for example, then the rights of Russian and Belarusian businesses on the territory of a union state should be the same. Is not it so? request
    And hence the question. Here we regularly conduct exercises West. Is there any certainty that in the event of a war, Belarus will not declare its neutrality, for example? And all the plans for a joint breakthrough of the Suwalki corridor will not the cat go down the drain? recourse
    On the other hand, we are not in the right situation to confront Luka with the final choice. We have enough other problems and one more is not needed yet. The question of Luke’s two-vectors and the construction of a small, feudal feud by him and counteraction to any Russian attempts to influence him can be postponed for now. But here I’m wangyu - sooner or later this question will manifest itself. request
    1. -3
      11 December 2018 17: 45
      [i] On the other hand, we are not in the right situation to confront Luke with the final choice. We have enough other problems and one more is not needed yet. The question of Luke’s two-vectors and the construction of a small, feudal feud by him and counteraction to any Russian attempts to influence him can be postponed for now. But here I’m wanging - sooner or later this question will manifest itself. [/ I
      I somehow didn’t understand if you are from Russia or Belarus ... Luke - these are our zmagars. If you are from Russia ... I don’t call your President like Ukrainian banderlogs. If you are a zmagar, then there are no questions. On two-vectors: you refuse the state (anyone) to conduct its independent policy. And you are already breaking through the Suvalkovsky corridor ... And ... everything in a heap, like our zmagars. Wangyu: Russia and Belarus - everything will be as it should for our peoples. hi
      1. +2
        11 December 2018 20: 05
        Quote: Sewer Krainiy
        On two-vectors: you refuse the state (anyone) to conduct its independent policy.

        Independent policy is based on an independent economy.
        If you want to be independent, welcome to market relations. If you want to receive preferences from Russia, at least sometimes provide response services.
        We have already fed one of these two-vector ones on our own head.
        Quote: Sewer Krainiy
        Wangyu: Russia and Belarus - everything will be as it should for our peoples.

        Yeah ... and that we have already passed. And more than once. We had such a brotherly people, for whose freedom Russian blood was pouring - and which fought both World Wars in the camp of the enemies of Russia.
        1. -2
          12 December 2018 16: 41
          This is you about Bulgaria. I agree. But then again - the people or the top ...
      2. +7
        11 December 2018 20: 35
        I'm from Russia. Therefore, I can call your president the way I feel about him. Naturally without insults. When we formed an allied state, did this mean a limitation of our mutual sovereignty? Is not it so? If you want to conduct an independent policy, then we are ready to answer the same. Unilateral friendship does not exist - it is called differently. And if for our part we invest money and energy at ridiculous prices, then we believe that you should invest something on your part. This is strange? belay
        You can not invest economically - invest politically or by military means. And if you do not want to invest anything. that means the degree of support on our part will be reduced every year. And if you do not let our business into your country, then sooner or later we will begin to pinch yours. And there are many of him in Russia. Do you need it?
        If we are not just allies, but even members of one confederation, that is, an allied state, then in this case we automatically count on your support. That is, no one will ask - you yourself must understand how an ally should behave. For example, how the USA and Britain behave. In all the wars that led the United States, they were supported by other Anglo-Saxon countries. It cost you nothing to send symbolic support, for example, to Syria. Georgia, for example, sent soldiers to Afghanistan, where the United States is fighting. Well, such things as recognition, for example, of Abkhazia or the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation are not worth mentioning. You do not want ? Then what is this ally? For example, Iran is fighting with us in Syria, and yet it does not owe us anything. request
        In general, if you think that you can receive and give nothing, then you are greatly mistaken. If you want preferences for Belarusian goods and manufacturers to be preserved, and energy sources to be cheap, then think for yourself what you can offer in return. request
        And as for the Suvalk corridor, then look at the map. Do you see other possibilities for lifting the siege of Kaliningrad in case of war? Or why do you think we conduct the West teachings? To have a good time? If a big war begins with NATO, then Belarus will be a priority TVD. And it depends on whether we manage to place sufficient forces for your defense, whether the enemy’s planes will bomb your house or they will be stopped at a distance.
        1. -2
          12 December 2018 16: 04
          And as for the Suvalk corridor, then look at the map. Do you see other possibilities for lifting the siege of Kaliningrad in case of war? Or why do you think we conduct the West teachings? To have a good time? If a big war begins with NATO, then Belarus will be a priority TVD.
          Sorry, but you yourself answered all the questions about the friendship of Russia and Belarus. Yours faithfully hi
      3. +3
        12 December 2018 10: 33
        You refuse to the state (anyone) to conduct its own independent policy.


        Its "independent" policy is a butterfly polka in front of Western gentlemen ... for the sake of their favorable smile.
        Do you want to crawl on their knees in front of them?
        Crawl! We do not prohibit but there and feed on their mercies.
        1. -2
          12 December 2018 16: 37
          Excuse me, please. Firstly, where did you see the polka-butterfly of Belarus in front of the western gentlemen ... And also, personally я I do not believe (you say - we do not prohibit, i.e. on behalf of Russia), I repeat - I speak on my own behalf, I do not believe feeding[/ b] Russian elite and its [b] mercies. It will sell us ... therefore, some multi-vector. I look forward to firmness in Russian politics and economics.
          1. +2
            12 December 2018 19: 45
            Firstly, where did you see the polka-butterfly of Belarus in front of the Western gentlemen


            And you, forgive me, look from the inside and "hesitate along with the party line"
            Neither in the West / nor in Russia today neither Belarus nor Lukashenko do not respect.
            1. -1
              14 December 2018 14: 35
              Sorry, cali weasel, life weaned from fluctuating with different lines, including and with the Lukashenko line. Life has taught the head to think. And again I repeat to you, if you say that you do not respect - examples, please. So, offhand, Macron, Merkel, Hungary ... everyone respects ... ??? And by the way, for some reason you always speak out like banderlogs from all, like - the whole world is with us, or the whole world does not respect you. It does not remind you of anything.
    2. +3
      12 December 2018 07: 33
      For the elite of all, without exception, the post-Soviet states, the greatest danger is the return to Russia. The stronger Russia will be - the worse we will have relations with all the former republics of the USSR, without exception. This is an axiom and we must be ready for this.


      Are you sure you are ready for the return of the "prodigal" Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan to Russia ??? lol

      Do we support many of them?
      We offered to unite precisely and specifically Ukraine and Belarus, to suggest why?

      The policy of almost all countries in the post-Soviet space is not focused on Russia.
      Therefore, Russia's gain is perceived by them very painfully - they have long since written off us from the account ...

      Once again - what nafiggg "association" with Turkmenistan ??? With Armenia (and Karabakh)?
      What kind of fiction?

      Belarus is no exception. And dad clearly said it publicly. He said in plain text that the biggest danger for Belarus is that it can become part of another state.


      That's just Belarus - a unique exception! This is the only post-Soviet republic that we no questions Were ready to accept in composition.
      The only one!

      This is not the "biggest risk", it was a unique chance for Belarus.
      Otherwise, something averages between Lithuania and Ukraine.
      1. +2
        12 December 2018 20: 16
        It does not matter whether we have such plans or not - it is important that local elites are afraid of this. And the fact that we are not going to return them, they will never believe.
        I, as a person who grew up in the USSR, and also as a convinced imperialist and militarist, am ready to return the borders conquered by my ancestors. The only question is whether there are opportunities for my Wishlist. request Like in an old toast about opportunities and desires. The state is not obliged to fulfill my Wishlist, but my Wishlist may coincide with the plans of the state. wink
        Well, the fact that in case of war it will be necessary to lift the siege of Kaliningrad seems to be silly to challenge. And accordingly, the Poles fully understand this, that the Suvalki corridor is the most effective way for this. And the fact that the teachings of the West are practicing this opportunity, too. Here, as if everything is clearly visible on the map. request
    3. +3
      12 December 2018 07: 44
      Therefore, one of the main tasks of Papacoli is to by all means prevent Russia from getting at least some leverage on the situation in the Republic of Belarus. THEREFORE, THERE IS A BOWING THROUGH ALL THE FORCES ATTEMPTS NOT TO ACCEPT THE CREATION OF THE RUSSIAN BASE ON THE TERRITORY OF THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS


      You know, this horror story about the Russian base as a lever of influence is a very controversial moment.
      Its value is greatly exaggerated both for the situation in the Republic of Belarus and for the situation in Europe - public relations, continuous public relations ...
      Well, there would be a base, there would be airplanes ... The air defense of the Republic of Belarus would increase ...
      And all in general.
      But for the Americans, this base is unacceptable in principle - they are stubborn people and obsessed with complete control of everything and everyone.
      If the base was unacceptable personally for Lukashenka - he would have made it clear at the negotiations in Moscow and not to fuss
    4. +3
      12 December 2018 08: 03
      And hence the question. Here we regularly conduct exercises West. Is there any certainty that in the event of a war, Belarus will not declare its neutrality, for example? And all the plans for a joint breakthrough of the Suwalki corridor will not the cat go down the drain?


      What the hell are the plans?
      There are simply no Russian troops in Belarus.
      1. -1
        12 December 2018 17: 20
        Sorry, but somehow you don’t understand at all, you somehow turned the other way ... I suppose my Cross Almighty helped, citing the state-owned media in Belarus. Yours faithfully hi Or is it not Oleg Egorov ???
        1. +2
          12 December 2018 17: 45

          Sorry, but you somehow do not understand at all, you somehow turned completely the other way ...


          You still know: I’ve been writing about Belarus for a long time already.
          What is the "other side"? What are you talking about?
          No damn, I read the state of the Republic of Belarus and let me go ... belay
          1. 0
            12 December 2018 19: 01
            What is the "other side"? What are you talking about?

            What the hell are the plans?
            There are simply no Russian troops in Belarus.


            You know, this horror story about the Russian base as a lever of influence is a very controversial moment.
            This is Belarus, a unique exception! This is the only post-Soviet republic that we were ready to accept without any questions.
            The only one!

            I about it. You once had a lot of negative things about Belarus. There are problems, it is possible and necessary to discuss, but in a positive, state way. Zmagarov and banderlog not to offer! hi
            1. +1
              12 December 2018 19: 51
              I'm about it. You once had a lot of negativity about Belarus. There are problems, it is possible and necessary to discuss




              Something like that. request
              1. 0
                14 December 2018 13: 54
                And if so somehow - these are our sides, one river bank. Today, by the way, Lukashenko said that Russia gives loans to Belarus at interest three times higher than the IMF. I didn’t track the information, but ... if the president even said something in the heat of the eye ... You understand, there is no smoke without fire.
  25. -2
    12 December 2018 07: 13
    a note about nothing in meaning, and even in terms of presentation in general, game .. "many letters" .. it was possible to outline in two paragraphs, but no ..
  26. 0
    12 December 2018 18: 44
    was in Minsk, 2 years ago, clean, asphalt without holes, in the private sector along the road, all the fences are painted with the same paint, shops, well, like in the USSR for design, the assortment is modern, the left-luggage office at the airport made fun)))) it was kind of from childhood, a grumbling old woman, wooden shelves, a classic shorter.
  27. +1
    12 December 2018 23: 05
    bravo author well done !!! in just one article, he deftly solved several tasks that he was whispered to him from the Kremlin where the occupiers are the proteges of the oligarchs .. the non-recognition by the father of Abkhazia of South Ossetia that should tell us that our government is not occupational and that it is not the most popular government and acts only in the interests of the peoples of Russia and the development of the state .. the author’s very cunning and cynical move, he worked his 30 pieces of silver to the fullest ... the question follows - why should the old man follow the lead and pressure of our anti-people government knowing that he has a bone in his throat like that of the west? and the Kremlin is forced to cooperate with him because it is dust in the eyes of Russians and the fear that Belarus will turn their backs on them, and if they try to gobble up Belarus and the West for a couple, then many eyes will open in our country ... and cave in front of the dad to cave in? Which Putin and Medvediv have been appointed and who are essentially not independent .. that is, the author in a very interesting manner turned everything upside down - we manage our independent Old Man .. the author in this article you have revealed yourself - you are an accomplice of the oligarchs and their hand puppets !!! you are the enemy of the Slavic peoples !!! people think for a moment and imagine how you would act in the place of Lukashenko ... on the one hand, the West, which despises both the Russian and Belarusian and Ukrainian people, which sees Russia only as a raw materials appendage, which it is desirable to divide into several pieces, and Belarus for them is a point in Europe with an unnecessary people and which can be used as Ukraine but Lukashenko does not. . on the other hand, Russia is inhabited by fraternal people, but at the same time with a hostile government of temporary workers of proteges of oligarchs .. who also despise the peoples of both Russia and Belarus, but who at one time have come to their senses and decided that they should give such a feeder to the same huckster only to the same huckster from the west and should be milked by themselves and resist a little and fight while we say so it’s cost-effective and when it will become unprofitable, believe our top will calmly explode over a hill with billions of billions ... and now the West is poisoning its six of Saakashvili to Ossetia, our proteges and borygans understand that they are losing political positions and if Russia does not intervene then the people will naturally understand that the Kremlin’s strong arm can only pull grandmother from the bowels of the country .. the show was held, we prevented genocide, our rulers think about ordinary people, Russia is not only independent but also able to protect a weak neighbor ... and here it is these henchmen and hucksters who are trying to blackmail and bribe you who are trying to draw in the independent autocrat of a small neighboring country lined on all sides by the same hostile appointees .. what will you do in place of Lukashenko? I would do the same - send everyone to the garden ..
  28. 0
    12 December 2018 23: 59
    Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
    Lukashenko is a hypocrite, repeatedly confirmed his status. Lukashenko understands that Belarus is a meaningless state, with independence in quotation marks, trying to prove its necessity, essence. Separated from Russia, they live in the theory that they would be better off living as in the picture of a happy Europe. Hence Russophobia and Poland are a mother. Forgetting the modest fact, Minsk rebuilt Russia from scratch.

    Well, but in more detail you can, how Russia rebuilt Minsk? Well, in order:
    Is Putin a hypocrite ?, Merkel a lycimer ?, Macron a hypocrite ?, ...... a hypocrite?
    -Putin understands that Russia is a meaningless state, hereinafter ... Separated from the whole WORLD !!!
    -and most importantly, why are you everywhere looking for the enemy? why do you convince me, a resident of Minsk, a citizen of the Republic of Belarus, that Poland is my mother mother to me ???
  29. +2
    13 December 2018 00: 30
    Quote: Cosmos
    I have been living in Minsk all my life, I was born back in the BSSR and found my childhood in the 90s. So before the collapse they lived very poorly, after the collapse 3 years survived on one potato. They planted dripping ate, and here not a drop of exaggeration, I saw meat 3-4 times a year. Then every year it became easier and easier, but with big changes in life, my mother and 3 children had to live in a one-room apartment. The younger sister got married 4 years ago and left, I 3 years ago, although I have long been over 30, i.e. without own housing it was difficult to create a cell of society. But with all this, when I started working, I later forgot as a porter at a construction site but at the same time I remembered what hunger was. The state gave me education, Medetsin, and I’m not afraid to go on the basics, that someone should break my head. We Belarusians live peacefully and quietly, but what they recognized or did not recognize, all this is intrigue, and attempts to split us and Russia, but alas, this is not my fault, I think,

    Well, hello land !!! Well, let’s tell how you ... lived very poorly ... how meat I didn’t see how I worked as a saddleman, about meditsina, about your courage, like wandering around at night and no one should give you a head ...
    It’s a shame for you to land, I’m like a Minsker from Minsk.
    Yes, I wanted to ask, where did you grow the bulb in Minsk when it was 8 kopecks in the store, and 10 kopecks in Komarovka?
  30. +1
    14 December 2018 10: 39
    Quote: aws4
    bravo author well done !!! in just one article, he cleverly solved several tasks that they whispered to him from the Kremlin where the occupiers are the proteges of the oligarchs .. --.... all the more, our entire Lukashenka’s government is no match as they just play the rulers and he himself isn’t independent politician and cave in under them to show the weakness of his power, and on both sides 2 is simply humiliating and unworthy !!!

    Is the Old Man’s wallet still popular? The same tolerant bad as Gaddafi with his gold dinar .. I believe that he is still alive only because of the significant difference in the importance of the global turnover of the bulb / oil.
    Any country that is free of goats in the financial garden becomes a handshake. Stuffing articles are very convincing, and rare dogs look into the eyes when teasing with a stick .. Many Slavs have not heard Kozma Prutkov- "Look at the root"
  31. +1
    14 December 2018 19: 24
    The author’s reasoning has something that many analysts lack (Is fecit cui prodest, who benefits). Although it does not give an answer, which is also correct. Of course, you can push on Otchima’s insanity and asshole licked for a quarter of a century, but this insanity is some kind of very fast-acting. I do not quite agree with the time estimate. Here we need to more closely monitor domestic politics. He completely broke down in the year 13.
  32. 0
    17 December 2018 23: 18
    Yes, what is there to say at all! Manages Belarus - one person, for more than 30 years! King! Yes, what kind of king is there - Belarus as a country never existed!
  33. 0
    24 December 2018 03: 18
    Quote: Olezhek
    Specify these editions, pzhalsta, or a reference


    Rurikovich, how would you like to read the Belarusian press?
    1) why does it never discuss the "If NATO attacks" scenario?
    instead of "If Russia tries to repeat the Donbass scenario"?

    2) Why Poland in the comments of the Belarusians - always Poland (100% of cases) Poles are always Poles. IS ALWAYS
    Baltic States and Balts always called only in accordance with the official version
    those. Lithuania-Lithuanians Latvia-Latvians Estonia-Estonians. In 100% of cases. In CTA!
    Ukraine and Ukrainians - always Ukraine and Ukrainians !!! I have never met any nicknames.
    Germany and Germans, America and Americans.
    Nicknames are not used never and no!


    Well, as a nice exception, "Russia" and "rusmir / gritty" ...
    Thank you hi

    We Belarusians want to become part of Russia Belarus. Poland, let it go to battle or also let it be part of Russia!
  34. 0
    2 January 2019 15: 24
    I myself am from Belarus, the situation in Belarus is a little bit not described in this article. There is no absolute pro-Western youth. But propaganda is not in Belarus but in Russia. On all your TV channels, you are throwing mud on yourself. They killed, they stole, impunity in the country is complete. And you want the Belarusians to want this to come from you to us.
    1. Remove chernukha from screens.
    2. Cancel the privatization.
    3. Touch the oligarchs.
    4. Take away the penny boost. age.
    5. Really increase the well-being of the whole people, not Muscovites alone.
    6. And who commands Putin? The oligarchs?
    And much more. And Belarus has almost the same turnover with Russia as with the EU. Although the base of the videoconferencing is necessary.
    About the unification of the two countries I can say this: many want but are afraid of your oligarchs and bandits. And you have more problems with medicine and housing and communal services. Solve these problems at home and there will be a turn for joining Russia.

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