DNI: Extractions irrefutable evidence of the preparation of the APU to the offensive

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The command of the People’s Police of the DPR publishes an urgent message about a sharp complication of the situation in the Mariupol-Novoazov direction. We are talking about the southern part of the region - access to the coast of the Azov Sea. A spokesman for the command, Colonel Edward Basurin, reports that the DPR military intelligence "produced irrefutable evidence of the preparation of Ukrainian troops for an offensive" in the Mariupol area mentioned.

According to Basurin, the main goal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is to seize the territory of two regions - Novoazovsky and Telmanovsky - to reach the borders of the Russian Federation in the south of the republic.



It is noted that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are preparing a strike in the area of ​​such settlements of the DPR as Kholodnoye and Konkovo.



We will remind that earlier Ukrainian politicians and high-ranking representatives of the Ministry of Defense have repeatedly stated about the "readiness" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to take control of the border with Russia in the Lugansk and Donetsk directions.

The goal of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the situation with readiness to launch an offensive in the south of the Donetsk region is not only access to the Russian border, but also to gain control of the Azov coast and simultaneously deprive the DPR of access to the sea.

Colonel Basurin notes that in total, the enemy in the area of ​​the contact line at Novotroitsky and Shirokino formed a large strike force of over 12 thousand people. To the contact line in the south direction additionally deployed units of the airborne assault troops of the Armed Forces, several dozen tanks, MLRS, large-caliber artillery guns, mortars.

From the report:
The first echelon is made up of 128-I Mountain Assault and 79-I Air Assault Brigade. In the second echelon - 56-I motorized infantry brigade and 36-I brigade of marines.


Armed militants of the extremist battalion (regiment) "Azov", which is banned in the Russian Federation, are located behind the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who, presumably, could be assigned to act in the format of defensive squads in case Ukrainian soldiers did not launch an active offensive.
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  1. BAI
    -3
    10 December 2018 14: 34
    1. There is no week, so that there are no statements on the completion of preparations for the transition to the offensive of the Armed Forces.
    2.
    act in the form of barrage detachments in the event that Ukrainian soldiers do not go on the offensive.

    Barrage detachments act only when "advancing" into their own rear.
    1. -62
      10 December 2018 14: 52
      Quote: BAI
      1. There is no week, so that there are no statements on the completion of preparations for the transition to the offensive of the Armed Forces.
      2.
      act in the form of barrage detachments in the event that Ukrainian soldiers do not go on the offensive.

      Barrage detachments act only when "advancing" into their own rear.

      Basurin really does not remember his own pearls and repeats the same thing every week.
      In the course, it does not dry out at all.
      1. +26
        10 December 2018 15: 17
        Quote: BAI
        Barrage detachments act only when "advancing" into their own rear.

        You really can not imagine the actions of detachments in the offensive? Well, Ukrainians will soon demonstrate this to you. If you can’t wait to find out faster, read the Greek historian Xenophon about the functions of the last line. This problem was interestingly solved by Napoleon, putting cannons behind the advancing Spaniards ... Normal ok, I’m very glad to hear your comment. And of course, this Ukrainian lad hates Basurin. About non-drying Petya Normalek this is for you to Petro Poroshenko. I see that in general you have a completely sore topic, that in the Armed Forces, that in the government’s offices!
        1. -3
          12 December 2018 00: 26
          He is absolutely right, Bassurin is a talking head in whose adequacy there are doubts. I bet with you for any money (name the amount) that there will be no offensive. You are ready?
    2. -38
      10 December 2018 15: 34
      Basurin, of course, turned down about detachments, I wonder what he’ll come up with next time?
      1. +9
        10 December 2018 16: 00
        "Presumably" easily .. this role was played in 2014, normal people from the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not want to fight
      2. +13
        10 December 2018 16: 28
        Quote: Sleeping
        Basurin, of course, turned down about detachments, I wonder what he’ll come up with next time?

        I don’t know what Basurin will come up with and whether he will come up with, but I’ll try to formulate an idea that I heard more than once and not from random people:
        We Russians, for some reason, have forgotten the true meaning of life. We have betrayed the foundations of morality and allow, yes, yes, allow us to guide us in our (not stranger, not native, but in our personal) life along the wrong path. We are offered some kind of body of meaningless concepts that do not give either a sense of satisfaction or consent. We do not have our true faith. We repeat someone’s commandments without understanding their meaning, break our tongue with alien words and strange sentences, accept established canons by someone and worship saints whose “holiness” is ordained by ordinary people. In the same way, we are silent when rogues wedge next to real heroes. We do not say a word when impudent looters who have taken away wealth created by generations are awarded with awards and titles, and those who continue to create values ​​that are not yet divided and not capitalized by anything are given incentives for high life expectancy in the form of labor for penny wages. Can it be that apathy and passivity will give us a chance to live life anew, change later, when ...
        And the most vile is that we listen to some kind of persuasion to suffer when nearby, in the next house they kill, blow up and burn people who speak and think like us. Perhaps those who feel pain are more direct and more acute. But these are our blood brothers with you. Not far - through the hundredth knee, but relatives, yesterday’s friends and relatives, which we forgot about ...
        It’s good that not everyone has fallen to that baseness, when there is a desire to judge someone else’s grief sitting on the couch. It is also good that if not everyone is given, then everyone will be rewarded according to their deeds. If he dodges himself, then the generation will receive the most "colza" ...
        1. +1
          10 December 2018 16: 52
          Sooner or later the fog will dissipate and everything will be visible! It looks like a turmoil, the plan of Dallas in all its glory
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      3. IAF
        -2
        11 December 2018 19: 34
        Well, punitive, foshizdah, junta, crucified boys and so on have been hawking for almost the fifth year, so why not add detachments?
        In general, it’s time to end with these under-republics.
        1. 0
          12 December 2018 06: 43
          In general, it’s time to end with these under-republics.
          So what's the deal bro? Come, take the machine gun in your hands, and start "FINISHING". Do you know how many such finishers were dug in the landings in due time.
    3. +3
      10 December 2018 16: 42
      Do you know a lot about detachments? Of fables such as the deceased L. Alekseeva and other Svanidze?
      1. +1
        11 December 2018 10: 55
        Of course from Svanidze !!!! He said in plain text that his father raped and robbed German women. Or first robbed, and then raped. He himself was undecided. In general, he knows firsthand. Only sorry for the memory of his father. His father fought for the Motherland, but "this" betrayed the Motherland.
    4. -18
      10 December 2018 17: 15
      Quote: BAI
      There is no week, so that there are no statements on the completion of preparations for the transition to the offensive of the Armed Forces.
      2.

      Basurin is a "boy" from Tolstoy's parable "The Boy and the Wolves".
      1. +8
        10 December 2018 18: 11
        Quote: Sleeping
        Basurin is a "boy" from Tolstoy's parable "The Boy and the Wolves".

        And you, bloodthirsty Maxim, evidently cannot wait for all Basurin's dire warnings to come true. So that the roar of the connade, the clang of caterpillars, the mighty "hurray" over the fields and forests? And I will definitely drink tonight so that today's message from Basurin does not come true. This means that many, many people will be alive, thousands of people will not writhe from unbearable tearing pain. Let them live more ...
        1. +4
          10 December 2018 19: 44
          Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
          Quote: Sleeping
          Basurin is a "boy" from Tolstoy's parable "The Boy and the Wolves".

          And you, bloodthirsty Maxim, evidently cannot wait for all Basurin's dire warnings to come true. So that the roar of the connade, the clang of caterpillars, the mighty "hurray" over the fields and forests? And I will definitely drink tonight so that today's message from Basurin does not come true. This means that many, many people will be alive, thousands of people will not writhe from unbearable tearing pain. Let them live more ...


          about warnings - this is a preemptive game, sometimes it works, as in the case of the chemical attack in Syria. The meaning of provocation is in surprise, who will figure out who was the first to start? example - 2008. Therefore, if Basurin's statements do not come true, this does not mean that he is "driving a blizzard." Although, if you just list a number of events - a provocation at the bridge, martial law, which even in the West surprises many with the inadequacy of the Kerch conflict, mobilization of reservists - under 200, pulling in equipment, a thousand British specialists transferred to the "consultation" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, frequent flights of an American spy along the borders - this is offhand, it turns out to be a very alarming situation. Besides, Poroshenko is also running out of time - instead of two months, they gave only one to commit at least some "act." He can only sober up a statement by Russia, or even better by Putin, that when a massive strike is delivered, the firing points of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be suppressed. Yes, and the UN Security Council would not hurt to shake it up with an urgent convocation, petka just starts screaming at once, we also need to answer - they go to their brains at all meetings
          1. 0
            12 December 2018 00: 31
            "mobilization of reservists - under 200, pulling in equipment, a thousand English specialists transferred to the" consultation "of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, frequent flights of an American spy along the borders" - respected, are you not a relative of Bassurin? You also forgot the Latvian snipers and chemical. weapon.
            1. 0
              12 December 2018 10: 42
              Quote: kutuz
              "mobilization of reservists - under 200, pulling in equipment, a thousand English specialists transferred to the" consultation "of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, frequent flights of an American spy along the borders" - respected, are you not a relative of Bassurin? You also forgot the Latvian snipers and chemical. weapon.


              good morning! wassat waking up tokmo? everything that I have cited is from open sources, and not even Russian ones. By the way, have you heard about the "Kerch aggression of Russia against Ukrainian ships"? Yes, the president of Ukraine has also declared martial law! and about reservists, technique - this is for him, unless of course he accidentally blabbed a military secret from a hangoverhi
        2. 0
          10 December 2018 20: 29
          Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
          You, the bloodthirsty Maxim, apparently can’t wait to see all of Basurin’s terrible warnings come true

          No, this is not so.
    5. 0
      11 December 2018 08: 41
      Quote: BAI
      We did not go so that there were no statements about the completion of preparations for the transition to the offensive of the Armed Forces.

      The fact that you are preparing for a grandmother is not necessary and without proof the last layman is clear. Poor deceived, loyal people who live in a state of war for 4 years. They could not even defend humanly. At least according to the Abkhaz-Ossetian scenario.
      1. +1
        11 December 2018 11: 00
        How do you know that they don’t protect? Or do not want to know? The Internet is a noble garbage dump, but there are enough facts in it. Even in advertising (even in VO), some conclusions can be drawn.
  2. 0
    10 December 2018 14: 35
    Will Petsya decide on a war?
    1. +2
      10 December 2018 15: 33
      He has no other way to try to stay in power. On the other hand, in case of an attempt to extend the VP, most likely they will be eaten by their own people (Tymoshenko, Lyashki, Gritsenko and others) by Maidan-3. But there is at least some chance to resist with war, so he wants to try, and without it there is no chance at all
  3. +40
    10 December 2018 14: 35
    By the way, a map of the planned offensive
    1. +18
      10 December 2018 14: 40
      Still in the south? I also think that there ... Hang on, guys.
      1. -13
        10 December 2018 17: 11
        Quote: GKS 2111
        Still in the south? I also think that there ... Hang on, guys.

        Does it ever occur to you that they are throwing a misinformation to you?
    2. -24
      10 December 2018 15: 35
      Any student on a computer will draw such cards.
      1. +8
        10 December 2018 15: 58
        Quote: Sleeping
        Any student on a computer will draw such cards.

        The schoolboy will not form a shock fist. There would be proactive, as in the 43rd, on the Kursk Bulge.
        1. -12
          10 December 2018 16: 52
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          There would be proactive, as in the 43rd, on the Kursk Bulge.

          Think of the tactics and strategy of the times of the Second World War, now other times and wars are different, one artillery bombardment will not work.
          1. +2
            10 December 2018 18: 13
            Sleeping, one artillery fire doesn’t work. Speak? Need two more boats and a tug?
          2. +2
            10 December 2018 18: 18
            On the Kursk Bulge, minefields were the main ones (more than 20 million different mines were installed), where most of the Wehrmacht tanks were lost. So in Mariupol to build a system of managed minefields. when they’re on, they’re safe, the enemy has gone, they are on the platoon .. More modern active mines are unlikely to get from the military, but it would be of great help ... A mine war of a modern level gives great advantages over the advancing enemy. ...
        2. 0
          11 December 2018 11: 02
          There was no preemptive (oncoming) strike on the Kursk Bulge. There was preemptive artillery fire.
      2. 0
        11 December 2018 11: 47
        Quote: Sleeping
        Basurin is a "boy" from Tolstoy's parable "The Boy and the Wolves"

        Quote: Sleeping
        Does it ever occur to you that they are throwing a misinformation to you?

        Quote: Sleeping
        Any student on a computer will draw such cards.

        Maxim, you are not sleeping, you are restless. What kind of misinformation are you talking about? Basurin voices the information received from various sources. Intelligence in the DPR is well-established, and Basurin is the voice of the DPR. Do you seriously think that faith is more to sleeping Maxim than to the voice of the DPR?
    3. 0
      10 December 2018 15: 37
      Yum-yum, from the sea, the Russian Federation can deliciously crush the fascists for meat. By the way, the same Balls and Bastions, in spite of the fact that they are considered sea complexes, can hit so deliciously on land (suddenly, who does not know :)). I think the range is enough. Well, from the land Iskanders, aerial bombs, artillery of norms so shreds the Nazis into slices. It is desirable, of course, first of all, to destroy the main excesses - the "Azov" detachment, maybe then the ukroarmiya will stop. If not, then you will have to
      1. 0
        10 December 2018 16: 08
        The problem is that such launches, unlike long-range artillery, are easy to track from the opposite bank.
        1. +2
          10 December 2018 17: 20
          And what, are we again afraid to defend the Russian world?
        2. +1
          10 December 2018 17: 42
          Well tracked, and what's next?
        3. +1
          10 December 2018 18: 44
          Which shore? Kyrgyz Republic launches from the Caspian?
      2. -1
        10 December 2018 18: 43
        I think "Bastion" with "Onyx" will have enough range to Kharkov. :)
    4. +3
      10 December 2018 17: 14
      In the DPR, 128 Airborne Assault Brigade stands, and next to 56 Airborne Assault Brigade and 76 Airborne Assault Brigade, Airborne Forces, from the side of Ukraine there are also 2 Airborne Assault Brigades and 1 General Assault Brigade. Ukraine's positions are not favorable for an attack, but who is there taking into account the Uk .. If 128 OGShBr from the DPR breaks 128 OGShBr Uk, there will be a "pot" for 56 and 79 ODShBr Uk ..... hi
    5. +6
      10 December 2018 18: 19
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      By the way, a map of the planned offensive

      By the way, an important addition is an excerpt from the same statement by Basurin. For some reason, here in VO it was considered insignificant ... But in vain.
      The reason for the armed aggression will be a terrorist attack committed by the Ukrainian special services in Mariupol. A few days before the planned offensive at one of the industrial enterprises, a chemical storage facility will be undermined ...
      ... According to our information, which is now being verified, sabotage is planned at the Ilyich Mariupol Metallurgical Plant. Significant reserves of ammonia used in industrial production are stored here. In this case, the extent of possible infection can be up to 15 square kilometers. Part of Mariupol with a population of about 50 thousand people will be in the infection zone.
      In the future, the Poroshenko regime plans to lay responsibility for this diversion on the Donetsk Republic. These actions will be accompanied by hysteria in the Ukrainian media, designed to convince Ukrainians and the international community of the justice and justification for unleashing aggression against us.
      Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1544436617

      The diversion is planned for December 11-13. This is tomorrow.
      1. 0
        10 December 2018 19: 41
        Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
        The diversion is planned for December 11-13. This is tomorrow.

        the source is extremely biased; last time there should be a diversion on Styrene (and last time on DFS and so on)
        and all these messages are just as good for your own "just counteroffensive" because of the mythical "offensive" or "sabotage"
        Does anyone else believe a second speaking helmet? he has such a job
    6. -2
      10 December 2018 18: 40
      Ghm, thank you for not giving on the map Krasnodar as you wanted.
      Where did the card crash?
      1. +3
        10 December 2018 20: 28
        Card from the briefing of the deputy chief of the corps Basurin. Journalists forgot to attach to the news.
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    8. +2
      10 December 2018 19: 49
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      By the way, a map of the planned offensive


      so that is why the boats were going "secretly" to the bridge ... most likely it should have started earlier, but the "three green whistles" did not sound
    9. 0
      11 December 2018 20: 46

      Mariupol would not hurt us !?)))
  4. -12
    10 December 2018 14: 35
    Well, of course, detachments, this is pure fiction.
    1. +6
      10 December 2018 15: 38
      Is not a fact. With these fascists, everything is real
      1. -12
        10 December 2018 15: 58
        Yeah, then we have bears walking down the streets, enough of this nonsense to write about detachments, I flew to Lviv just two weeks ago during the events in the Kerch Strait, my friend showed the wife there was hanged the main square in front of the Lviv Theater, one of the militias and hung there a week. Lviv is a tourist city where crowds of tourists scurry around and believe me it was impossible, and of course I am inclined to listen to my friend and not the media, whatever they were.
        1. +8
          10 December 2018 17: 41
          Come to some Nazi battalion like "Azov" and others like them, and you will be made disabled at least if you just give them a speech like "let Ukraine be friends with Russia." Maybe they will. If you say something bad about Ukraine, especially about its independence, 100% will be killed on the spot (although they may still be tormented before death). I write in absolute sober seriousness
        2. +8
          10 December 2018 18: 22
          I also visited Lviv recently. I met my relatives from Poland. I understand you mean the opera house? Have you seen a photographer with a fascist helmet and a Schmeiser ?! And the portraits of Shukhevych with Bandera and other fascist attributes that are sold on benches in this park? And the thugs in paramilitary uniforms on the streets were not noticed in the badges and armbands from these same shops in bandera clothes? No? Your comrade is lying and you are lying, that's all! I will add here also different graffiti on the walls, the content, which I will not give! This is probably all Putin is naughty flying at night in a black cloak over the "peaceful tourist city". Flying in dark glasses because the reflections of fascist torches are dazzling!
          1. -2
            11 December 2018 09: 23
            I saw what they sell in the shops, there’s nothing good there, but it’s the demand of tourists, it creates an offer, he didn’t see the young people, but what about the fact that a woman did not hang there for a week?
            1. 0
              11 December 2018 12: 12
              Earlier they wrote about detachments in VO from the words of prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If this seems to you to be fiction, this is just your problem.
              1. 0
                11 December 2018 13: 51
                Well, yes, it’s entirely true that they didn’t write nonsense.
  5. +1
    10 December 2018 14: 36
    How soon will it blaze ?! recourse This year ?! request I hope our Ministry of Defense has all the trump cards in store for this and other cases !!! angry soldier
    1. 0
      10 December 2018 15: 38
      In that. The other day it’s burning
    2. +5
      10 December 2018 15: 38
      Quote: keeper03
      I hope our Ministry of Defense has all the trump cards in store for this and other cases !!!

      Of course. In Moscow, no idiots are sitting
  6. +7
    10 December 2018 14: 39
    Cooking, pogans something.
  7. -7
    10 December 2018 14: 40
    "obtained irrefutable evidence of the preparation of Ukrainian troops for the offensive "in the aforementioned Mariupol direction"
    But show in any way? As I understand it, this is an offensive plan on which are signed by everyone, up to Poroshenko. So show everyone these aggressive aspirations.
    1. +4
      10 December 2018 16: 03
      Quote: Decimam
      So show everyone these aggressive aspirations.

      The group is formed, that's enough
  8. +10
    10 December 2018 14: 40
    Let them advance. We must be ready to open fire in ten minutes so that LDNR would not be declared in violation of the Minsk agreements. And the fire of everything is the most cruel and the stop is only in Chop.
    1. -1
      10 December 2018 15: 40
      It’s not necessary to go far. It is only necessary to destroy the attackers, especially equipment and not to go further until spring-19. If in 2019 in Ukraine it is not the valtsman who will win at first, but in 2020 Trump will also take a second term, then in 2021-2022 we will return at least all of New Russia to ourselves, and even all of Ukraine
  9. +17
    10 December 2018 14: 41
    There will definitely be a provocation, I think all this clowning in the Kerch Strait was also the introduction of martial law in Ukraine, all these are links of the same chain, the Pentagon has a plan and Ukraine is fulfilling it. DNR and LNR need to prepare, it is necessary to prepare and Russia.
    1. SOF
      +12
      10 December 2018 14: 51
      Quote: Alexey-74
      DNR and LC need to prepare, Russia needs to prepare

      .... it would not hurt to relay this information in the UN Security Council ..... with a proviso ..... that "we warned them that again in the eye".... and ..... damn .... where are our satellites .... with pictures of the concentration area .... ??? .... shaking pictures at the UN is not destiny? .... forever will we make excuses after the fact ??? ....
      1. +7
        10 December 2018 15: 11
        Yes, at least we can shake everything at the UN with them EVERYTHING !!! How do you not understand?
      2. -14
        10 December 2018 15: 52
        Quote: SOF
        .... it would not hurt to relay this info to the UN Security Council.

        For what? That there neighing over Basurin? Unlike many VO commentators, people sitting at the UN are much better informed and much more clear about what is happening in reality. And the fact that a lot of nonsense voiced - so they have such a job))
      3. 0
        10 December 2018 17: 22
        Why are you so naive, how old are you, dear?
  10. +5
    10 December 2018 14: 45
    By the way. Since the Russian Federation has acted as one of the guarantors of the implementation of the Minsk agreements, does this mean that it has the right (or is obliged) to use force to keep the territories of the LPRP within the agreed boundaries? I hope it will not come to this, but some other ending for this "fairy tale" is unlikely. This knot cannot be cut otherwise
  11. +6
    10 December 2018 14: 50
    Without suppressing the DNR's "artillery kulaks", no offensive will work. The attackers will drown in blood. And the APU has no aviation ... The "north wind" has enough shells, and the DNR's barrels are fresh (I think so!) ...
  12. +8
    10 December 2018 15: 05
    Those who fight for a just cause never commit provocations. The methodology of justifying their actions, with dressing in the form of the enemy, has been working since the 30s. Of course it used to be, but it was the fascist clique that has used it publicly in recent history. Americans are worthy successors of Hitler’s business. They understand that they are wrong - they begin any war with a provocation, which they themselves have arranged. And even their own for this purpose are not spared. I hope our people will no longer make excuses for what they did not do this time, but will let the adversary think carefully. Again, 2014 is remembered, then we listened to Ahmetka ..
  13. -16
    10 December 2018 15: 07
    Basurin again pulled the hordes of the enemy, and prepared for the offensive. Year after year ...
  14. -18
    10 December 2018 15: 13
    Basurin is the main alarmist and hollow in the DPR.
    1. +4
      10 December 2018 17: 24
      Sleep further and do not write nonsense.
  15. +2
    10 December 2018 15: 32
    Armed militants of the extremist battalion (regiment) "Azov", which is banned in the Russian Federation, are located behind the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who, presumably, could be assigned to act in the format of defensive squads in case Ukrainian soldiers did not launch an active offensive.


    Tin. Just fascists. They drive them to slaughter.

    Now it is clear what the next provocation of Waltzman will be in order to try to prolong martial law - an offensive on the LPNR. And the Russian Federation will be in a difficult position - whether to answer and give the Waltzman a reason to extend the VP + sanctions and cancel SP-2, or not to respond, but then the DPR may fall. In my opinion, it is necessary to answer (as we simply have to prevent Donetsk from losing), but in a limited way. Roughly speaking, don't go to Kiev. Just help the DNR to defeat the advancing group, and immediately back. Ideally, it would be to maximize the use of non-contact means - long-range artillery, long-range corrected bombs, Iskander, Caliber, as well as shell the coast from the ships of Azov. The ground operation must be mastered by the DNR themselves. We must somehow endure until the election of the prezik in the waltzmain so that the pig will fail. Tymoshenko is corrupt, it will be possible to more or less come to terms with her. She is all so anti-Russian in words, in fact, the main thing is to pay her money - she will do anything. Well, if the Waltzman still manages to prolong the EaP and thereby postpone the elections, then, I hope, the third Maidan will carry him forward with Bankova's paws.
  16. +1
    10 December 2018 15: 38
    Irrefutable evidence of the preparation of the Armed Forces for the offensive


    Potroshenko needs a small victorious war, to raise the zero rating, so to speak, but it may end very badly.
  17. +4
    10 December 2018 15: 47
    "Azov" is cherished for cleansing and looting - so to speak - by the sadistic "elite".
  18. wax
    +5
    10 December 2018 15: 48
    Poroshenko will have no other chance, so the most likely attempt is a blitz krieg during the period of the imposition of martial law. At stake: pan or gone. Victory ukrov - Poroshenko again president and ahead of the war for the Crimea. The defeat of ukrov - the replacement of Poroshenko and reconciliation on the border with the Russian Federation on certain conditions.
  19. -5
    10 December 2018 15: 50
    Shaw, offensive again ...?
    1. -8
      10 December 2018 16: 55
      Quote: Spine
      Shaw, offensive again ...?

      Of course laughing They even showed you an offensive map, soon the date and time will be called Yes
      1. +2
        10 December 2018 17: 05
        Quote: Sleeping
        Quote: Spine
        Shaw, offensive again ...?

        Of course laughing They even showed you an offensive map, soon the date and time will be called Yes

        Tired of waiting for Svidomo already when they decide .. negative In my Kiev, it’s time to give up on the Crimea and the Donbass and take care of the defense of Kiev and escape routes to Israel, Canada, Australia, and the United States of course (naturally, with money, others are not needed there ..))))
  20. -15
    10 December 2018 16: 01
    It is noted that in the DPR and LPR their military are in the form of a sample of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, both daily and field, moreover, cockades completely coincide, this is a violation of the law.
    In accordance with part 3 Art. 39 ФЗ No. 53 - The wearing of military uniforms and insignia of military personnel by citizens who do not have the right to do so is prohibited and entails liability in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      10 December 2018 16: 24
      Do not worry LDNR does not yet have a citizenship law laughing
      1. -6
        10 December 2018 17: 03
        Quote: Paphos
        Do not worry LDNR does not yet have a citizenship law laughing

        Laughter is laughter, but the DNR soldiers and Russian-style helmets П7 (6Б7), Ukrainians more than once presented them as proof of the presence of the Russian army in the Donbass
        1. +5
          10 December 2018 18: 51
          Quote: Sleeping
          Laughter is laughter, but the DNR soldiers and Russian-style helmets П7 (6Б7), Ukrainians more than once presented them as proof of the presence of the Russian army in the Donbass

          And if they also present Russian-style underpants, then we can draw conclusions about the fact that in the Donbass GDP is personally commanded. At the forefront, in the forefront of Buryat divers. soldier
    2. +2
      10 December 2018 18: 57
      Quote: Sleeping
      in the DPR and LPR their military are in the form of a sample of the RF Armed Forces,

      So what,? I also wear it both on fishing and hunting Yes , I'll tell you a secret - "unloading" on a hunt is the most convenient thing good ,
      Quote: Sleeping
      In accordance with part 3 Art. 39 ФЗ No. 53 - The wearing of military uniforms and insignia of military personnel by citizens who do not have the right to do so is prohibited and entails liability in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation.

      belay I probably missed something Yes . But do not tell me when is the laws of the Russian Federation acting on the territory of the DPR and LPR? feel
    3. +1
      10 December 2018 19: 57
      Quote: Sleeping
      It is noted that in the DPR and LPR their military are in the form of a sample of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, both daily and field, moreover, cockades completely coincide, this is a violation of the law.
      In accordance with part 3 Art. 39 ФЗ No. 53 - The wearing of military uniforms and insignia of military personnel by citizens who do not have the right to do so is prohibited and entails liability in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation.


      so go ahead! a bus or bus ticket, here from Rostov a couple of hours and you are there! Tear off their epaulets, cockades, handcuffs on everyone and everyone here! we will judge in all severity wassat
  21. 0
    10 December 2018 17: 16
    It is desirable that the Cossacks of Russia would come out with a statement "On support of the People's Republics." I think it will cool the Ukrainians. Remember how the Cossacks stopped the "friendship trains" in the Crimea and cooled the ardor of the warriors from Kiev?
  22. +5
    10 December 2018 17: 46
    I wonder where so many bots come from, they come straight to diarrhea, trying in every way to divert to the side and refute the information provided by Basurin.
    1. 0
      10 December 2018 18: 28
      Otozh, VO turns into a censor. Slowly
    2. +2
      10 December 2018 19: 59
      Quote: fan_
      I wonder where so many bots come from, they come straight to diarrhea, trying in every way to divert to the side and refute the information provided by Basurin.


      so us their president has long announced an info war! here and work out bots
  23. +4
    10 December 2018 17: 53
    We will deal with the points.
    Basurin is not a clown. Everything that he gives out to the mountain is coordinated with the command of the 1 AK.
    There are plenty of sources for intelligence to obtain such information. The information is clearly believable.
    APU is not able to conduct strategic operations. For this, it does not possess forces or means. Therefore, only in the Mariupol direction, by the forces of 4’s brigades, with the support of 2 artillery brigades, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can conduct a limited operation to operational-tactical depth with a political result (access to the state border of the Russian Federation)
    The forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this sector are opposed by 1 Slavyansk brigade (1 OMRB) and 9 regiment of marines (9 oshmsp (mn). Simply two full-fledged brigades. , professionally with an indication of individual elements of the enemy's combat formation, his revealed basic intentions, other individual elements of the situation. I emphasize - separate. Basurin's words sufficient for visualization.
    But there are a few but ...
    In the area intended for the offensive, it is now raining. Dirt impassable. In such conditions, the offensive is possible only on paved roads. There are only three of them in the eastern section above. Movement outside the asphalt, even for tracked vehicles, is impossible. There is so greasy chernozem that when moving across the field, through 200 m. T-64 buries. I’m silent about the rest of the equipment. I saw it more than once.
    Thus, the start date for the onset of 14.12. doubtful. The forces and means allocated for the offensive under the indicated conditions, in my opinion, are clearly not sufficient.
    Plans for the use of enemy DRG in the areas of Sedovo and Novoazovsk are not clear in plan and are equally unlikely.
    This is if guided by commonplace logic. But, ukrovoiny are not trivial and can once again tear patterns. I won’t be surprised at anything.
    1. 0
      10 December 2018 18: 03
      Won't it dry by Friday? Well, then, they can postpone to the far end for a couple of days. Not 14 so 16 will hit. Not 16 so 19
      1. +1
        10 December 2018 20: 11
        while it is slush ... but according to forecasts, by the weekend there is already a small minus in the afternoon, at nights up to -4. So it is likely that the dates will shift, but it even plays into their hands, they will say - "Baturin as always ..." and further in the text. God grant that everything will work out, but too much has already been done on the other side to stop, and it is not they who rule, but the "pale-faced dog" from across the ocean. As Zhukov said, "maybe they won't attack after all?" - "" ... The military machine is launched, you cannot stop it "
    2. Urs
      +2
      10 December 2018 20: 17
      Well, finally, a pleasantly readable analysis of possible options for the development of the situation.
      Campaign you dear were previously associated with headquarters good
  24. +2
    10 December 2018 17: 59
    They have already stepped near Kerch ...
    As a result, the commander of the border ship had to contrive, so as not to accidentally drown the morons on kayaks ...
  25. +2
    10 December 2018 18: 09
    That's why it was necessary to voice such valuable intelligence data ?! Now a normal adversary will abandon the offensive within these periods or in these directions (if there are others). He could have kept silent, while the main forces of LDNR are being transferred to cover dangerous areas and prepare the area.
    1. 0
      10 December 2018 20: 15
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      That's why it was necessary to voice such valuable intelligence data ?! Now a normal adversary will abandon the offensive within these periods or in these directions (if there are others). He could have kept silent, while the main forces of LDNR are being transferred to cover dangerous areas and prepare the area.


      what's the secret? only on a date ... sometimes it’s better to use any chance to prevent bloodshed than to reconcile the parties, and the process of reconciliation stretches for years, and breaks out in a matter of hours
    2. Urs
      +2
      10 December 2018 20: 20
      Well, if you know that I know that you know belay
      Given the presence of a normal psyche, the attack should be postponed. am
    3. +1
      11 December 2018 06: 15
      All that they could cover and prepare in four years.
      1. 0
        12 December 2018 10: 50
        Quote: ROMAN VYSOTSKY
        All that they could cover and prepare in four years.


        this is what worries ... including they created an illusion in the minds of the military, which they can already support even to Moscow. After all, he was still on all sides on all sides, even frankly delusional.
  26. +1
    10 December 2018 18: 25
    This tyagomotina about the attack ukrovsk lasts more than one year. And Basurin’s words could be considered nonsense, but in reality, the current regime on the remnants of Ukraine is really preparing and waiting for the moment to strike. There are several reasons that prevent Poroshenko from giving the order: firstly, the sad experience of the past years, secondly, there is still a high probability of intervention by Russian troops, and thirdly, Poroshenko’s army does not have so many forces and armaments that are ready to actually execute the order and all sorts of other things little things, including some mess in the system of power in the USA and the same England. Someone must take responsibility and then bear the deserved punishment for it.
    The direction of the strike in the southern direction is the most obvious, but not obligatory. In general, according to the logic of things, cutting strikes are needed, preferably in several directions, so as not to allow the militia, firstly to concentrate forces and secondly, to disrupt the interaction of disparate groups as well as their supply.
    Personally, I, as a couch specialist, and with proper preparation on the spot, the ukrovoyak would strike in the direction of the corner of the border with the Russian Federation, preferably from three to four directions: south of Donetsk (there you can generally make a double wedge and again through Debaltseve and Avdeevka, not forgetting the harassing attacks near Lugansk, but for this you need to have an overwhelming advantage in technology and L / C and in motivation.
    At the moment, all these factors are in their infancy and large-scale military operations by Ukraine are not possible. Although, attempts are likely, but if they are completely sitting there in headquarters.
  27. -2
    10 December 2018 18: 46
    With enviable regularity, "irrefutable" evidence of the beginning of the Nazi aggression is being obtained and, what is most dangerous, is voiced ... but, but all this reminds the story of a shepherd boy who loved to shout "Wolves! Wolves!" ...
  28. 0
    10 December 2018 21: 43
    for 14 rains and slush at the breakthrough site. In general, there the left bank of Kalmius is 30 meters higher than the right and from the side of Solntsevo it can be seen right up to Volnovakha. And then Marik (Mariupol) will do it when Volnovakha lays down. But most importantly, after Zakhar was flooded, the Donetsk people stopped talking about the answer for the demonstration of power, only complaints to the OSCE. Yes, look at Pushilin or the team of accountants Yanukovych, who came into this land tightly, do they remember the dead and wounded during these years of confrontation. - only cache, it turns out that Donbass tore that Yanyk lived beautifully.
  29. 0
    11 December 2018 13: 38
    Basurin again gangs up on someone and breaks through something laughing
  30. 0
    11 December 2018 15: 07
    Yes, for a year now "they are about to go on the offensive."
    Waiting for further

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