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As the Russian people were sentenced to destruction

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In August — December 1991, the third world war, which the USA and NATO countries, as well as the “fifth column”, traitors in the ranks of the Soviet elite, fought against great Russia (USSR), the Russian people, the peoples of the USSR and the socialist camp, ended -SSR and the complete surrender of most of the socialist countries.




Unfortunately, most people do not even know the elementary history modern times, not to mention the later periods. The true story is successfully replaced by Hollywood tales, where brave Americans defeat Hitler, etc. The essence of the history of the 20th and early 21st centuries. in the crisis of capitalism, the entire Western (biblical) project as a whole. The western project is based on an unfair concept. The West lives only through constant expansion, seizure and plunder. This is a vampire world that feeds on alien energy and resources.that kills neighboring civilizations, cultures, countries, nations and tribes. Capitalism is only a new mask covering the slave civilization, the world of slave owners, the “chosen” and “two-legged tools”, slaves.

As soon as expansion stops, the flow of the stolen gets scarce, there are no new slaves, markets, a systemic crisis begins in the West. The crisis of capitalism. The system begins to break down, devour itself. The first crisis came at the beginning of the 20th century, when the West turned almost the whole world into its colonies and semi-colonies. So, Latin America was under the complete control of the West, Africa was divided into colonies, like most of Asia, the Pacific region. Ancient India was a British colony, and China was a semi-colony, as was the Ottoman Empire (Turkey). In technological, economic and financial dependence was Japan, which was turned into a "ram", directed against China, for its further enslavement, and Russia. Autocracy was preserved only by Russia, although it was partially dependent on Western technology and finance.

To prevent disintegration, the masters of the West, the global mafia that had taken shape by that time (financial international, gold elite, world backstage, etc.) organized the First World War. It was necessary to destroy and plunder Russia, to destroy the thousand-year geopolitical opponent of the West; destroy the old monarchies, the aristocratic empires - German, Austro-Hungarian (the struggle within the Western project, the Anglo-Saxon elites against the Germans), the core of the then Muslim world - the Ottoman Empire. Thus, the masters of the West should have absolute power over the peoples of the planet. Then, on the ruins of the old world, they planned to create a “new world order” - a stable neo-slave-owning civilization. The results: a terrible slaughter, millions of dead and maimed, the destruction of four empires, their total looting, the Russian catastrophe.

However, the owners of the West could not realize all the tasks. The Russian Empire was revived as a phoenix in the form of the Red (Soviet) Empire. Moreover, the Soviet (Russian) globalization project was launched. For the first time in the history of mankind, a country-civilization of systemic anti-capitalism has arisen on the planet, on the basis of social justice begins the creation of a society of the future - a society of knowledge, service and creation. In the world there is a real alternative to the Western project of the enslavement of humanity. In the West, the second stage of the crisis of capitalism begins. The Great Depression. The masters of the West are preparing a new world war. Fascists and nazis are supported in Europe. Allow to restore the German Empire (Third Reich), its military and economic power. They give Hitler much of Europe (even France!), The remaining free countries help to strengthen the power of the Reich. London secretly promises Berlin not to open a second front while the Germans are fighting in the East.

According to the plan of the owners of London and Washington, the German “European Union” and the Japanese empire were to crush the USSR, but incur serious losses, bog down on Russian open spaces. After that, Britain and the United States were going to solve the problem of defeating Germany and Japan. At the same time, there was a “fifth column” in Germany — the military, who should have eliminated Hitler at the right moment and “agreed” with Britain and the United States. Thus, the maximum task was again set - full control over the planet (“new world order”), and the minimum task was the destruction of the Russian (Soviet) civilization.

Thus began the Second World War, which was organized and prepared by the masters of the West, and Germany and Japan acted as "figures" in the Great Game. Again, the West failed to realize all the tasks. London and Washington managed to rob and humiliate Germany for the second time, its western part (FRG) came under their control, and later it was able to subjugate east (GDR). Berlin has so far been under the control of the global mafia. The Japanese civilization was also crushed, robbed and subjugated. But the Soviet Union survived and became even stronger. Moscow is creating a world socialist camp, is receiving in Europe a protective barrier the face of the allies. In the Far East, Russians smash the Japanese, take revenge for the shame of 1904 - 1905, return lost territories and positions in the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin, in Korea and North China. Huge China is being freed from the yoke of the Japanese and Western colonialists, with the help of the USSR, the Chinese Communists are taking over. China recognizes the USSR as “big brother”.

The US masters, who have since become the main “command post” of the western project, have fabulously enriched themselves at the world’s slaughter, but their plans to crush the USSR did not come true, and without this it was impossible to establish full control over the planet. Therefore, the West is unleashing a third world war - the Cold War. In 1946, Churchill and 1947, Truman declare a cold war for Russia. And they start a furious "struggle against communism" inside their countries. In the West, a wave of arrests, reprisals, repression. Thousands of innocent people suffered for "anti-American activities." The atmosphere of fear and horror, rampant "witch hunt" allow the global mafia to mobilize society, turn it into an obedient mechanism of a totalitarian society. The population is intimidated, they create a myth about the “Soviet threat” (“Russians are coming”).

Mankind mastered nuclear missile weapontherefore, the traditional “hot” war with the USSR became impossible. The masters of the West were not going to commit suicide. Therefore, the new world war has become different - irregular, hybrid. It was a new generation war — ideological, informational, secret — against diplomacy and intelligence services, sabotage, economic, technological. The arms race and advanced technology in space. At the same time on the territory of third countries could go and traditional war, as in Korea and Vietnam. There were riots, revolts, coups, revolutions, assassinations of leading political, public and military figures, and so on. There was a clash about who would finally dump someone: the Red Empire or the Western world.

In this case, Since the end of 1940, the third round of the crisis of capitalism began. It was believed that the Soviet project would take up and dump the West, that a world system of socialist countries headed by the USSR would emerge on the planet. Many leading Western and Soviet thinkers believed that the West was doomed in this competition of systems. The only question is when capitalism collapses. In many ways, these were the right conclusions. The West, unable to rob the planet in the previous regime, when the social camp and the countries of the third world appeared, in the 1970s fell into a severe crisis. And the question at this time was who would fall first? USA or USSR? America was morally broken, a massive degradation began (the project “sex, drugs and rock and roll”), there is a mass anesthesia of the population, especially young people. The degradation has also affected the armed forces - the fall of discipline, drugs, alcoholism, suicide. Defeat in Vietnam. The political crisis of President Nixon, who was preparing a dictatorship in America (Watergate scandal). The United States is rolling out a series of space programs related to the Moon and Mars.

At the same time, the USSR was then at the peak of military and political power. It seemed that another breakthrough and the Union would be in the bright future, and the Western world would collapse in agony. However, this did not happen. What happened? The fact is that the West in the "cold war" made a major bet on the rebirth of the Soviet party elite. Formation of the “fifth column” from the nomenclature, national cadres, cosmopolitan intelligentsia and the degenerative layer of the population who want to “live beautifully”, "Like in the West", ready to sell a mother native for a beautiful candy wrapper. And this bid led the West to victory! After the elimination of Stalin, who cleaned and regularly updated the Soviet elite, there were quite a few people in the nomenclature ready to betray for the sake of power and access to the trough. They tried their best to get power and for the sake of its preservation they made a deal with the devil (the “golden calf”), which was played by the masters of the West. Due to their low moral qualities, these people believed that they had the right to transform power into material well-being — capital, property, property. This was how the Soviet elite fell away from the task of developing and confronting the capitalist slave-owners with the Western world. A part of the nomenklatura rotted away, wished to reach an agreement with the West, privatize socialist (popular) property and become “new masters” in the Soviet republics. First, the Soviet elite arranged de-Stalinization (Khrushchev's “perestroika”), abandoning plans for further development and the creation of a future society. Then, instead of developing, they chose stabilization, the Brezhnev "stagnation" began. From the new reality refused. Allowed the peaceful coexistence of socialism and capitalism, began a rapprochement with the West. Thus, the Soviet elite surrendered the Soviet civilization, the great Russia (USSR).

The final phase of the third world war begins with 1985. “Perestroika” is a camouflaged surrender of Soviet civilization. In December 1989, a criminal and traitor Gorbachev signed an advance capitulation on an American ship in the Malta area. In August — December, the outright traitor Yeltsin comes to power in Russia 1991, the USSR is ruined, and semi-colonial “Bantustans” are formed on its ruins. The masters of the West are exporting tremendous wealth and resources from great Russia (USSR). At the same time, colonial models are being built in Russia and the former Soviet republics, which makes it possible to rob them on a systematic basis. A similar scheme is the destruction and looting of the former socialist republics of Eastern and Southeastern Europe. This robbery, unparalleled in history, save the United States and the West as a whole from a crisis that threatened to destroy the entire capitalist, western system. The USA and the West were saved due to the destruction and robbery of Great Russia (USSR).

So ended the third world war. It is known that world wars are characterized by several main features: the division of the world and borders; redistribution of spheres of influence; redistribution of colonies and markets; reparations and indemnities. All signs of an accomplished world war in 1991 years were evident. And only the interests of the semicolonial regimes that served the mainstream media and the court, “official”, pseudocommunist opposition allowed for a long time to hide the monstrous truth from the people. The fact of an unprecedented crime in the world history and the betrayal of the Soviet elite, as well as the “democratic” government that inherited it. The hypocrites "reformers", "optimizers" and the "opposition" serving them hid from the people the fact of a terrible defeat - the largest geopolitical catastrophe in the history of mankind, which V. Putin later acknowledged.

As a result, the miserable fragments and stumps of the once Soviet superpower, crushed to the ground in the third world war, were ruled by the global mafia and the semi-colonial regimes serving its interests. At the same time, the global mafia still in 1960 — 1970-s came to the conclusion that 80% of the population of the Earth are “superfluous”. That people consume too much, that a consumer society is killing the planet, its biosphere. The masters of the West set about eliminating the “surplus population” through wars, permanent conflicts, revolutions, rebellions, diseases, famine, using the weapons of genocide: drugs, alcohol, tobacco, poisoned food, etc.

Since 1991, the peoples of Russia have fallen under the rule of the global mafia and its puppet marionettes, the colonial administration. The genocide of the Russian people and other indigenous peoples of the Russian civilization began: military methods (as in Chechnya and Donbas), using weapons of genocide, mass alcoholism, anesthesia, replacement of high-quality products with artificial ones, genetically modified, etc. Cultural, language genocide of Russians, de-Russification of the territory of great Russia (USSR). Socio-economic genocide. In particular, the last pension "reform" is a vivid example of the methods of the socio-economic genocide of the peoples of Russia. The results were not long in coming — a mode of super-mortality was established in Small and Great Russia. Russian people are rapidly dying out. If the rates of depopulation-extinction are preserved, by the middle of the XXI century, the Russian superethnos will suffer fatal damage, and Russia will not be able to keep its territory. And by the end of the century Russia and the Russian people can be erased from history.
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  1. Severski
    Severski 8 December 2018 05: 23
    -63
    It seems that the author lives in another galaxy. Not far off but parallel
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 05: 37
      +92
      Quote: Severski
      It seems that the author lives in another galaxy. Not far off but parallel

      Which one do you like better?
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 06: 32
        -10
        Oh, where did you get such a screenshot? On TV, it’s a solid false positive and Kiselev’s propaganda, no? laughing
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 8 December 2018 07: 58
          +45
          Quote: tanit
          Oh, where did you get such a screenshot? On TV, it’s a solid false positive and Kiselev’s propaganda, no? laughing

          Kiselev and Soloviev perform later on the time schedule. They are trying to compensate for the gloomy reality with exaggerated patriotism, staples and concentration around the president.
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 11: 07
            -5
            So where does the screen to the left come from? wink
          2. Alber
            Alber 8 December 2018 11: 10
            +16
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: tanit
            Oh, where did you get such a screenshot? On TV, it’s a solid false positive and Kiselev’s propaganda, no? laughing

            Kiselev and Soloviev perform later on the time schedule. They are trying to compensate for the gloomy reality with exaggerated patriotism, staples and concentration around the president.

            Samsonov is right!
            It is the genocide of the Russian people organized by Anglo-Saxon Zionism. First of all, the goal was the genocide of the Russian people. And in 1917, and with the advent of Gorbachev-Yeltsman. And the genocide of the Russian people continues
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 11: 36
              -22
              [quote] [/ Samsonov is right! quote]
              But what of course !!! The genocide of the Hyperborean people (Samsonov often worries about it in the History branch) - to whom do you refer? laughing For reference, there were certainly no Masons at that time. wink
            2. rayruav
              rayruav 8 December 2018 15: 48
              +4
              about Anglo-Saxon Zionism is you cool
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 16: 58
                -8
                It is a fact
                .
                Quote: rayruav
                about Anglo-Saxon Zionism is you cool

                You will not deny the Sino-Zulu genocide? laughing
                1. Vladimir 5
                  Vladimir 5 8 December 2018 20: 00
                  +14
                  tanit. For your reference: from the provincial and trembling England in the 16th century, after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain, those main (richer) moved to England, and gradually the weak state turned into an empire. New migrants contributed by cunning and vile moves to defeat the main enemy - Spain. And over the course of several centuries they have grown into an empire where the sun does not set. (through sea robbery, colonialism and other vileness). Compare the compositions of the feathers of England, there are solid old Jewish surnames. Queen Elizabeth of Windsor herself, after genetic research, was found to have a large share of Jewish impurity. Look at Charles, the future king, in appearance a typical Ashkenazi ... Here you have the Anglo-Saxon-Jewish symbiosis
                  1. Reklastik
                    Reklastik 8 December 2018 21: 52
                    -7
                    Look at Charles, the future king, in appearance a typical Ashkenazi ..
                    You are not from the department of Alfred Rosenberg, where using a compass in the shape of a skull to determine the race? laughing
                    1. Vladimir 5
                      Vladimir 5 8 December 2018 22: 58
                      +8
                      Reclastic. No, the Rabbis Council is a more serious organization, and more accurately determine ...
                    2. Alber
                      Alber 10 December 2018 13: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Reklastik
                      You are not from the department of Alfred Rosenberg?

                      Hm! This Alfred smart man was ...
                  2. Alber
                    Alber 10 December 2018 13: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: Vladimir 5
                    Look at Charles, the future king, in appearance a typical Ashkenazi ...

                    I think why he has such a vile face. It turns out everything is simple ...
              2. Alber
                Alber 8 December 2018 22: 12
                +2
                And for you, the secret is that the monarchs of the United Kingdom (members of the royal family) are of Jewish (Jewish) origin. In principle, like most governments.
                Koroleva Elizabeth herself has a blood relationship with Abraham (Abram) Lincoln. And all the members of the royal family (seemingly Christian) on the male line are somehow circumcised according to the Jewish tradition
              3. Enky
                Enky 11 December 2018 19: 49
                +1
                Quote: rayruav
                about Anglo-Saxon Zionism is you cool

                As far as I remember, the Queen of Great Britain is an honorary member of the Zionist Congress and openly recognized that members of the British Royal House are descended from the "seed of David." The official Jewish directory Jewish World, published in Russian by the Association of Russian-Jewish Intelligentsia in Paris in 1939, provides an instructive list: an amazing list of Jews in the upper and lower houses of the English parliament.

                It turns out that the following Jews are sitting in the House of Lords in the form of English Lords:

                1. Marquis Reading Osterwald

                2. Viscount Birmtad Walter Horace Samuel, Head of the Sheli & Co. Oil Society

                3. Viscount Samuel Herbert Lewis Samuel, former High Commissioner of Palestine

                4. Baron Duvin Joseph [Lord Judear Sir Montefiori, a wealthy Englishman, whose family coat of arms has a lion and a unicorn on the bottom, three stars of David and two flags with the inscription on the top]]

                5. Baron Jussel Herbert

                6. Baron Mycroft Arthur Michael Samuel

                7. Melchett Harry Ludwig, Lord Mond, head of the chemical trust 1.C.1., Zionist activist

                8. Baron Nathan Rothschild

                9. Baron Sotwood Julius Soller Elias, head of the newspaper concern

                In the House of Commons, the same source lists

                1. Sir Leslie Khor Bailish, Minister of War

                2. Sir Percy A. Alfred Harris (from London)

                3. L.P. Glickstein (from Notterham)

                4. Dadley Joel (from London).
            3. Yarhann
              Yarhann 9 December 2018 20: 57
              -9
              where did you get such cavemen from))) There is no 21st century in the courtyard of serfs, you want to live anywhere and bring it down. What the heck is genocide - genocide is possible in a concentration camp or ghetto from which it is impossible to escape. Enough already to promote this bullshit to the masses. the Jews are to blame for everything - of course, look in the mirror and see all the problems and those responsible
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 8 December 2018 12: 16
            -10
            And you propose to shout at every corner "We are in the ass, we were betrayed!"
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 12: 28
              -14
              Quote: tihonmarine
              And you propose to shout at every corner "We are in the ass, we were betrayed!"

              But isn’t that the vast majority on the VO resource? laughing
              1. rayruav
                rayruav 8 December 2018 15: 51
                +15
                the majority on the resource says that we are not going there, or rather we are standing still
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 17: 00
                  -9
                  Quote: rayruav




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                  the majority on the resource says that we are not going there, or rather we are standing still

                  Not really. It yells. And hears himself.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 8 December 2018 07: 36
        -47
        Quote: ROSS 42

        Which one do you like better?

        Left, of course. The achievements were especially impressive:

        The author has the same: capitalism rotted and perished throughout the 20th century (the author counted 4 crises), but disappeared ....... a crisis-free and prosperous social camp.

        and the whole thing, it turns out, is not in the economy, labor productivity, scientific and technological revolution, but in ... a bunch of traitors.
        Author:
        After eliminating Stalin, who cleared and regularly updated the Soviet elite, in the nomenclature turned out a lot of people ready to betrayal for power and access to the feeder.
        how so?!
        what kind of party was that. that after SUCH purges from traitors, these traitors still remain .... so many and so strong? belay
        but the capitalists, so many traitors, it turns out, was not found, (once survived) .. request
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 08: 47
          +43
          Quote: Olgovich
          what kind of party was that.

          A party of shape-shifters. Party of opportunists and nomenklaturars. They did not know how to preserve, multiply, build or create. Their vocation was - to deceive, to drag away, to settle in, to divide, to powder their brains. It was they who came up with the proof that 2 x 2 = 5. This is they BEYOND !!! make people believe in the power of pyramid schemes being created. If earlier they had to disguise themselves, now they are doing their "lawlessness" without hiding, giving absurd explanations and proofs of their deeds.
          Capitalism survived? Yes, I survived. People both survived in concentration camps, and did not starve to death in the war, like my mother. But living and working, they knew that their labor was for the benefit of the Motherland. That is how, working in three shifts and sending children to "round-the-clock" nurseries and kindergartens, they raised the country destroyed by the Nazis, rebuilt cities and villages. Not thanks to the party and the Politburo, but thanks to the concept of a socialist economy. It's not their fault that the party mediocrity climbed into all areas ...
          In a word, who lived and saw all this, he does not need to talk about the pros and cons. And my beads are not endless ...
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 11: 14
            -16
            That's .... The branch is not historical, and Olgovich’s comment (which is already scary laughing ) - but agree. I don’t remember coupons for cowards, in my city there were no such, but everything else is, alas, gentlemen "Bolshevik-Leninists" (eh., If only one of them were alive, from the real ones, now I would see, for me the last of these worthy respect for people - my father, who died in 2007) and the Pol Pot people who joined them, are true. laughing
            1. skullcap
              skullcap 10 December 2018 12: 20
              +3
              Coupons appeared with the disappearance of goods in stores, although all enterprises were working. But the geostrategic operation "Perestroika" began ...
          2. Storog dvornik
            Storog dvornik 8 December 2018 12: 21
            +26
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Party of Changeling.

            Not all party members were like that, my father joined the partisans at the age of 16, joined the party under Stalin ..., and in August 1991, being mortally ill, he regretted that he did not have a "backpack with a YaZ" to go to Moscow, to the Kremlin. .. partisan-saboteur-communist in one word ...
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 12: 31
              +1
              Quote: Storog Dvornik
              communist in one word ...

              Exactly. He is a Communist. Your father, my father, they were Communists. And now the "communist" is Grudinin and Zyuganov. Can't you see the difference?
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 17: 08
                +5
                I will continue. Have you seen the film "Communist"? This guy is a communist. He is a COMMUNIST. And all of these are mold. hi
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 13: 39
                  +1
                  This is mold, his critics who grew up in the USSR, who failed to create anything worthwhile except criminal capitalism.
        2. Nick_R
          Nick_R 8 December 2018 08: 58
          +10
          I agree, you read such articles and you begin to understand where convinced reptilian fans come from.
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 11: 16
            -7
            !
            Quote: Nick_R
            I agree, you read such articles and you begin to understand where convinced reptilian fans come from.

            Are you a Nazi? belay laughing
            1. Alber
              Alber 8 December 2018 21: 51
              +3
              Quote: tanit
              !
              Quote: Nick_R
              I agree, you read such articles and you begin to understand where convinced reptilian fans come from.

              Are you a Nazi? belay laughing

              The most important Nazis on earth are the Zionist Jews.
        3. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 8 December 2018 10: 06
          +49
          Quote: Olgovich
          The achievements were especially impressive:

          I remember coupons for vodka, even for meat, and even under Gorbachev. Ah, here are the cowards? Previously, every woman was a needlewoman. Bullshit is your photo.
          Unfortunately, only in fairy tales does good always triumph over evil. In life, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Chubais ... are floating up. And meanness, meanness, betrayal take over.
          1. justas-xnumx
            justas-xnumx 8 December 2018 11: 15
            +10
            For underpants, shoes, televisions with vacuum cleaners, coupons appeared after the 91st year, in the 92nd he received a ticket for winter boots and a vacuum cleaner :(
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 11: 45
              -10
              Quote: justas-914
              vacuum cleaner tvs

              But I remember the price of Temp color TV, before "coupons for televisions" - which, "coupons for televisions" were not, by the way .. And you? Don't you remember? Let me remind you - 750 rubles. Everyone had such salaries, of course. All the secretaries of regional committees, and other executive committees, regional councils laughing And to Gorbachev and all sorts of different others.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 8 December 2018 13: 48
                +19
                Quote: tanit
                Do not remember? Remind you - 750 rubles. Everyone had such salaries, of course.

                I don’t know anyone, I would have lived in the USSR without a TV! And then, how appropriate is it to compare the price of the first color TVs and modern ones in 30-40 years? The first products are always more expensive! Technology and hardware have changed dramatically. Therefore, your comparison is incorrect. It rather shows not real life in the USSR, but your desire to find than to dirty the Soviet past.
                By the way, the color TV "Yantar Ts-310" cost a little less - 490 rubles.
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 14: 39
                  -7
                  Quote: Stas157
                  By the way, a color TV "Yantar Ts-310" cost a little less - 490 rubles

                  Yeah. When did it go on sale?
                  And so, a black-and-white Record of 66 rubles, it’s quite as strong as it is, right? :
                  But there were no "coupons" as such. There was a recording.
                  Social justice - members of the CPSU. For them, the line moved faster. hi
                  1. Campanella
                    Campanella 11 December 2018 13: 18
                    +1
                    Tanit, you would have studied the question before writing nonsense.
                    The Record 66 TV was never released. Probably, you, with Aibolit 66, mixed up the radio of the same name. As for the first color TVs, they cost 300-400 rubles. Yes, not everyone could initially afford this. In our class, they first appeared in military families.
                2. irazum
                  irazum 9 December 2018 20: 25
                  -14
                  Only all Soviet consumer goods failed with regular and very frequent constancy.
                  1. Glory1974
                    Glory1974 9 December 2018 21: 41
                    +9
                    Only all Soviet consumer goods failed with regular and very frequent constancy.

                    The ZIL refrigerator in the country has been operating for 50 years.
                    Black-and-white TV "Taurus", my age is probably lying on the roof somewhere, a worker is still.
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 9 December 2018 21: 51
                    +5
                    Quote: irazum
                    Only all Soviet consumer goods failed with regular and very frequent constancy.

                    Bullshit. Most often, the electronics failed, but it was repaired - just spit. And now it's all one-time. I have enough Soviet technology at home, and everything works. Now in stores and during the day with fire you will not find anything Russian.
              2. Lyuba1965_01
                Lyuba1965_01 8 December 2018 16: 37
                +12
                Honestly, I don’t remember how much the TVs cost, I was still small at the time my parents bought it, but I know well what could be bought by installments (not to be confused with a loan!) So everyone bought and did not overpay a penny above the store price. But now you can buy everything on credit, crawling into bank bondage and paying crazy interest.
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 13: 27
                  +2
                  I confirm that there was such a practice. And also loans, mutual assistance cash desk. And now the ghoul on the ghoul and happiness with snot, if another cheated.
                  In general, the time of animals that glorify capitalism and pour mud on the USSR.
                2. Karenas
                  Karenas 11 December 2018 20: 48
                  0
                  Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                  So everyone bought and did not overpay above the store price a dime.

                  Dear, you are a little unaware :) In Yerevan, you had to overpay ... 203 rubles for a tape recorder Jupiter-80, and 001 rubles for 'Mayak-150 ". :) Including if the store director has been friends for a hundred years families :)
                  1. Lyuba1965_01
                    Lyuba1965_01 12 December 2018 00: 15
                    0
                    Apparently, if you took it from under the floor, then yes, I don’t argue. But in the early 80s, if I’m not mistaken, we bought an excellent professional two-cassette player, in my opinion, "Mayak". Black, straight-headed. Was great ... The sound balancing was honed to the smallest nuances, quality re-recording, and, as I recall, there was mixing. (I won't say it for sure, but, in my opinion, it was). Bought on free sale in an electrical store.
                  2. Alber
                    Alber 18 December 2018 11: 54
                    0
                    Quote: Karenas
                    Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                    So everyone bought and did not overpay above the store price a dime.

                    Dear, you are a little unaware :) In Yerevan, you had to overpay ... 203 rubles for a tape recorder Jupiter-80, and 001 rubles for 'Mayak-150 ". :) Including if the store director has been friends for a hundred years families :)

                    You Armenians had to overpay for everything! And there has never been a change in Armenia. Because theft, bribery, and fraud that you later brought to Russia were developed in Armenia
                    1. Karenas
                      Karenas 18 December 2018 12: 05
                      0
                      You need to be treated ... Otherwise, I would have known that theft was imposed from Moscow ...
                      In independent Armenia 1918-1920. according to the law, bribe-takers were shot on the spot ...
              3. Freeman
                Freeman 8 December 2018 22: 18
                0
                anit (Vadim) Today, 11:45
                But I remember the price of Temp color TV, before "coupons for televisions" - which, "coupons for televisions" were not, by the way .. And you? Don't you remember? Let me remind you - 750 rubles. Everyone had such salaries, of course.

                Zhvanetsky: "They bought a color TV - this means that life has become better? No, it has become better to watch."

                Compared to the countries of the "socialist camp", the prices for electronics in the USSR were quite acceptable.
                From personal experience - TESLA B93-stereo reel tape recorder, manufactured in Czechoslovakia,

                cost 6500 kroons (650 rubles at the exchange rate). In terms of frequency characteristics (15 KHz), it was worse than MAYAK-203 (18 kHz), which cost 265 rubles.
                1. Karenas
                  Karenas 11 December 2018 20: 55
                  0
                  In the 82nd in Lithuania, I saw a Norwegian bobbin Tandberg for three and a half thousand in a store ... I didn’t understand if I did the right thing, that I didn’t ask my parents to buy me one :) I just knew that I would spoil and spoil, so I didn’t regret :)
              4. justas-xnumx
                justas-xnumx 10 December 2018 19: 01
                0
                TV "Photon" 54 cm diagonally 555 rubles in 1986, refrigerator "Snowflake-2" 720 rubles in the same year. I remembered it because I got married and we bought both a TV and a refrigerator.
                1. Dr. Bermental
                  Dr. Bermental 19 January 2019 11: 49
                  0
                  expensive unreasonably ...
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          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 8 December 2018 13: 02
            -11
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            I remember coupons for vodka, even for meat, and even under Gorbachev. Ah, here are the cowards? Previously, every woman was a needlewoman. Bullshit your photo.

            Of course, specifically to "denigrate" the achievements of developed socialism at its peak: the coupons were only meat, butter, coats, etc.


            Quote: There was a mammoth
            Unfortunately, only in fairy tales does good always triumph over evil. In life, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Chubais ... are floating up. And meanness, meanness, betrayal take over.

            What is evil for their citizens? Switzerland, Denmark, other companies?
            But is this good?
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 13: 07
              -8
              Quote: Olgovich
              But is this good?

              Of course and definitely -Good. laughing
              No socks, no queues for them. laughing
            2. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 8 December 2018 15: 37
              +11
              Quote: Olgovich
              What is evil for their citizens? Switzerland, Denmark, other companies?
              But is this good?

              It is interesting to know where such photos are for what purpose, where they were taken, and what time they are?
              So that domestic shoes would not stand on the shelves! I do not remember. A friend went as a tourist to Czechoslovakia, bought shoes (their shoes were appreciated), at the hotel he considered: "Made in USSR" wink
              The Swiss are a special people in Europe. Back in the Middle Ages, they realized that bankers are cooler than the "Napoleons". By the way, the only military monument to a foreigner in Switzerland is only one of ours. Guess who?
              The rest are Danes, Germans, French, ..., read the whole of Europe more than once "celebrated good" on our land. Honor, every century, sometimes more than once.
              Quote: Olgovich
              to "blacken" the achievements of developed socialism

              Now it’s no secret how the deficit appeared. Under Stalin, it was called sabotage and betrayal. By the way, do not tell me why the Americans awarded Gorbachev a certain medal.
              1. Freeman
                Freeman 8 December 2018 22: 39
                +4
                Was Mammoth (Was Mammoth) Today, 15:37
                The Swiss are a special people in Europe. Back in the Middle Ages, they realized that bankers are cooler than the "Napoleons".

                Actually, there is such a joke about the Swiss
                - Switzerland started with knives. Then she got a watch and money. wink
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 8 December 2018 23: 12
                  +3
                  Quote: Freeman
                  - Switzerland started with knives. Then she got a watch and money. wink

                  good Well said!
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 9 December 2018 09: 17
                -7
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                It is interesting to know where such photos are for what purpose, where they were taken, and what time they are?

                In Germany. yes, in 1985 The goal is to show the truth about the difficult share of working people under capitalism. yes
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                The rest are Danes, Germans, French, ..., read the whole of Europe more than once "celebrated good" on our land. Honor, every century, sometimes more than once.

                And?
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                Now it’s no secret how the deficit appeared. .

                And How?
                you had an interesting "guiding force of society" ": how to organize a deficit, so please, but how to organize production in the required quantity and distribute it — alas. request
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                Under Stalin it was called sabotage and betrayal.

                what discoveries: under Stalin, it turns out ... there was no shortage! belay lol
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 9 December 2018 19: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  And?

                  Quote: Olgovich
                  And How?

                  An exhaustive answer! Five!
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 10 December 2018 10: 01
                    -5
                    Quote: There was a mammoth
                    An exhaustive answer! Five!

                    It was clarifying QUESTIONS on your inarticulate, not relevant topic maxims, such as
                    The rest are Danes, Germans, French, ..., read the whole of Europe more than once "celebrated good" on our land.

                    They checked in with us, we with them: WHAT does this have to do with "coupons for coats, boots, etc." "that appeared in the USSR at the end of the 20th century? The Danes, the French took all the supplies back in the 19th century? lol
                    Develop your "thought". It's funny!yes

                    The same applies to the mechanism known to exist for YOU deficiency. Tell me! yes
              3. irazum
                irazum 9 December 2018 20: 31
                -1
                Was your friend who traveled to Czechoslovakia from a village or a visually impaired patriot? Only this can I explain the purchase of Soviet shoes in Czechoslovakia.
                1. Was mammoth
                  Was mammoth 9 December 2018 20: 48
                  +6
                  Quote: irazum
                  Only this can I explain the purchase of Soviet shoes in Czechoslovakia.

                  Quote: irazum
                  Only all Soviet consumer goods failed with regular and very frequent constancy.

                  Young green! wink
                  Mom still "uses" the Soviet iron, she does not need others (they buy and lie), and in the kitchen there is a second refrigerator - "ZIL-Moscow", born in 1962.
                  How old are you? wink
                  Young green! wink
                  1. irazum
                    irazum 9 December 2018 21: 00
                    -8
                    I am 51 and my Mom also used, at one time, a domestic iron, but not electric, but one that was heated on a gas stove, simply because electric burned with enviable constancy ...
                    1. Was mammoth
                      Was mammoth 9 December 2018 21: 28
                      +3
                      Well I write: "Young green!" : wink.
                      Do not be offended. I'm trying to make a joke. I will be older. Already a senior citizen with experience.
                      It was in the USSR that, in pursuit of the plan, they took the quantity, not the quality of consumer goods. Therefore, for years, some "gray" shoes, coats and other things were lying in stores, which would not have been necessary to produce. But, there were also high quality things for which there was an "eternal" demand. There was also the fact that high-quality goods were exported. On which my comrade "got burned".
                      PS And spirals burned in the irons. Repair a little thing.
                      Your mom’s PSI iron is a rarity. We had one too.
                      PSII. Recently I got caught unknown how the remaining Soviet bandage. Do not believe it, 3-4 times denser than the current production. belay
                2. Karenas
                  Karenas 12 December 2018 01: 13
                  0
                  Quote: irazum
                  Was your friend who traveled to Czechoslovakia from a village or a visually impaired patriot? Only this can I explain the purchase of Soviet shoes in Czechoslovakia.

                  Even too lazy to write about this nonsense ... In Yerevan in the Masis factory there was a workshop for sewing shoes for export ... the head of the workshop was the son-in-law of the famous sportsman Igor Novikov ... So, their products were exported to Italy ... Well, and for the sale of the same shoes here, the cops often broke his fingers with the door of the safe ... or rather, to find out the numbers that were not taken into account ...
              4. Alber
                Alber 10 December 2018 13: 51
                +2
                Quote: There was a mammoth
                to "blacken" the achievements of developed socialism

                Now it’s no secret how the deficit appeared. Under Stalin, it was called sabotage and betrayal.


                And it was the work of the "chosen of God"
            3. ZAV69
              ZAV69 8 December 2018 21: 26
              +7
              When was that? In 91, when the country labeled with Yakovlev and Shevornadze was handed over. And before that, it was quite possible to buy everything. And the shoes that were sold served for several years, and then it was possible to carve out the backs of boots for the boots from the same women's boots (my father did so).
            4. Campanella
              Campanella 11 December 2018 13: 34
              0
              And London citizens live in tents! Judging by your hurt they live? And your pictures are not proof. No author, no year, no place! You are a waste!
        4. O. Bender
          O. Bender 8 December 2018 10: 31
          +20
          Pay attention to the date in the coupons, it was no longer the USSR hi
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 8 December 2018 13: 05
            -10
            Quote: O. Bender
            Pay attention to the date in the coupons, it was no longer the USSR hi

            Well what are you, Alexander! hi request
        5. DPN
          DPN 8 December 2018 10: 34
          -5
          It's just that a person in Soviet times could not drown out the Predator instinct
          1. Alexander Ra
            Alexander Ra 8 December 2018 12: 24
            +3
            The instinct of a predator in the Anglo-Saxons (colonies), do not confuse. Many of us have gained statehood near us; now it’s clear what’s on our head. As in 1863. helped the Americans.
        6. stalki
          stalki 8 December 2018 10: 51
          +8
          but the capitalists, so many traitors, it turns out, was not found, (once survived) ..
          What is the point of betraying the traitor capitalist to the same traitor, when everything human is betrayed already, all of them are there, people do not live there, they died out. hi
        7. Machito
          Machito 8 December 2018 11: 12
          +6
          The next crisis of capitalism is evident: the public debt of leading Western economies has reached incredible values.
          It turns out a paradoxical situation when countries with large debts live better than others, providing their debts with the superiority of their armies.
          Obviously, this cannot continue indefinitely.
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 11: 49
            -6
            public debt of leading Western economies has reached incredible values.

            Surprise, but Luxembourg's biggest debt. laughing And Japan (by the way or not), according to this indicator, is also "ahead of the rest." laughing
            1. Karenas
              Karenas 12 December 2018 20: 47
              0
              tanit, it seems to me that you got 6 "minuses" by accident ... this is when you press your finger a little harder when "paging", and he, your finger, at this moment over the sign turns out to be :) I also had one time ... understand who is undeservedly / deserved :) minus ...
              And that’s all right - Japan’s debt is drop dead ... But they know that it’s justified - they intend to turn the whole nation into development engineers.
        8. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 11: 53
          +7
          Quote: Olgovich
          The achievements were especially impressive:

          Olgovic, I don’t know how in Moldova, but we didn’t have any coupons for a coward.
          1. rayruav
            rayruav 8 December 2018 16: 02
            +3
            in chisinau there were coupons for almost everything, but what does the USSR have to do with it, he’s almost died
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 16: 28
              +4
              Quote: rayruav
              in chisinau there were coupons for almost everything

              We also had coupons, I still had a "buyer's card", but coupons for panties are complete garbage.
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 17: 13
                -7
                And should we believe you? Well you're lying, you yourself wrote, no? wassat
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 20: 14
                  +3
                  Quote: tanit
                  And should we believe you? Well you're lying, you yourself wrote, no? wassat

                  Listen, comrade Paramonoff, where did I write that I’m lying to the FSE?
        9. Cynic
          Cynic 8 December 2018 17: 10
          +5
          Do you have no coupons for the 81st or 71st year?
          For a more complete disclosure of the truth about socialism?
          Quote: Olgovich
          but the capitalists, so many traitors, it turns out, weren’t found

          Why?
          There even entire countries tried to break free. No?
          Capitalism is simpler than socialism, in fact, there is a constant natural selection for survival ...
          Recall their realities?
          Now ours!
        10. Waldemar
          Waldemar 9 December 2018 00: 49
          +3
          They themselves put the photo and notice the inscription 1991 did not have enough mind. 1956 coupon show
        11. NordUral
          NordUral 9 December 2018 16: 11
          +2

          And before that, how many more hard workers were there, starting with Khrushchev.
        12. ruigat
          ruigat 9 December 2018 19: 04
          +1
          but the capitalists, so many traitors, it turns out, was not found, (once survived) ..

          The capitalists found VERY many traitors, because this system gives rise to them in large numbers. That's just their betrayal was not necessary for anyone, because, as the article says, after Stalin, the nomenclature chose the policy of PEACEFUL EXPERIENCE with the Enemy.
        13. Campanella
          Campanella 11 December 2018 09: 01
          +1
          And now there is no money, and no cowards, respectively. Uma, you have to post a stupid chamber.
          At 3500 r, people like you live and rejoice in capitalism.
        14. Campanella
          Campanella 11 December 2018 13: 51
          0
          The French, apparently, Mr. Olegovich did not heed your arguments and storm the Macron residence. Judging by your posts with rage fat?
          And it would seem that cowards and eggs, and even truffles ... everything is there, but not enough .....))))
      3. ammunition
        ammunition 9 December 2018 17: 14
        -4
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Which one do you like better?

        I do not like when we have debauchery and cataclysms. sad But I do not want to say about it.
        --------------------------------
        Alas! But the USSR was doomed to destruction.
        Yes .. With a healthy economy and a healthy educated population. Without a single serious contradiction inside .. - was doomed.
        The USSR was in the same way doomed to destruction, just like the new Rolls-Royce standing on the rails .. with a heavy train in the air.
        A brand new serviceable Rolls-Royce .. and a prosperous USSR.
        And the "west" was not doomed to destruction !!! Yes .. the "west" resembled an ancient .. rusty, patched-up jalopy .. But! this rotten clunker, did not stand on the rails !! .. with a flying train. Dranduletina stood outside the rails. (((( sad
        ------------------------
        The article mentions a fashionable slogan - "biblical project". After such a mention, you could not read the article. Because an article (with such an ideology .. that is, theomachy!) Cannot bear anything good, but only one bitterness, hopelessness and anger.
        --------------------
        The USSR was doomed to destruction, not because it had a bad economic mechanism! Not! Just the mechanism of the economy was much more efficient capitalist.
        But the USSR relied on extremely false ideology. All the life of people in the USSR was permeated the ideology of human omnipotence . And it was the religion of the USSR. .. alas .. !!!! Alas!! but in the USSR, the false goals of being human on this earth were set.
        But!! As far as the life of one blade of grass depends on the Sun, just as much (and even more !!) the life of an individual, society, and country depends on the Lord God!
        ---------------------
        Could a brand new Rolls-Royce (USSR) be pulled off the rails ?? In other words, to completely overturn the ideological basis of the USSR? Through a gradual policy of repentance before God .. and return to the fold of the Church of Christ? With the harsh rejection of this very "Marxism-Leninism" in the part where it is associated with materialism and atheism ...
        .. HARDLY !!!!!
        Why hardly ?? But because even now .. when 30 passed years of our humiliations and our slavery, the majority (the overwhelming majority) of VO readers did not recognize .. that the only source of all life, and every good on Earth, is the Lord God!
        1. ruigat
          ruigat 9 December 2018 19: 20
          0
          And because even now ... when 30 years of our humiliation and our slavery have passed, the majority (overwhelming majority) of VO readers have not recognized ... that the only source of all life and all good on Earth is the Lord God!

          Answer a simple question. What is God?
      4. irazum
        irazum 9 December 2018 20: 19
        -3
        Yes, how do you say, like or dislike, you probably need to ask the following question: the first picture (the one with Igor Kirillov) is mostly a lie, and the second (unfortunately) is mostly true ...
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    2. bandabas
      bandabas 8 December 2018 05: 55
      +31
      Maybe, maybe. However, when I personally was an Octobrist, a pioneer, a Komsomol member, I had pride that I was born and live in this country. And now ... Honestly, I don’t know. But this is our Country, and whatever you say, we and our descendants must live in it. The main thing is that fairy tales like "how our children will heal" do not pass to the next generation.
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 06: 36
        +6
        You know, "how our children will heal" is also important. Personally, I hope that they will not continue their lives under the Pol Pot people. hi
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 8 December 2018 07: 20
          +23
          Quote: tanit
          You know, "how our children will heal" is also important. Personally, I hope that they will not continue their lives under the Pol Pot people.

          +++ The question is different: - what to do? the question of Who is to Blame, in various forms, including in this article, has already been answered many times. I have a thought: If you introduce criminal liability for failure to fulfill election promises ??? After all, almost all deputies and presidents promise to raise pensions and defeat unemployment? So that at any time of service an elected person could be asked a question - but what about the promises ???
          1. atos_kin
            atos_kin 8 December 2018 08: 16
            +32
            Quote: aybolyt678
            . I have a thought: If you introduce criminal liability for failure to fulfill election promises?

            There is an initiative group in Russia called For Responsible Power. They propose, by way of a referendum, to introduce into practice: when a new government is elected, to assess the previous one, from a proposal to reward, to a prison bench, depending on the results of work. So the current government accused them of extremism and "soldered" them real prison terms. Therefore, your idea is good, but the power of thieves will not give it a go.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 8 December 2018 10: 28
              +6
              Quote: atos_kin
              There is an initiative group in Russia called For Responsible Power.

              this group was very interested in slogans, investigations ... I understand. But if you approach a little from the other side? for example, consider breach of promise as a breach of trust for personal gain? I'm not a lawyer, but it looks something like this
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 11: 20
                -1
                .
                Quote: aybolyt678
                I'm not a lawyer, but it looks something like this

                As an option, go along the Chinese path. That is, to shut the mouth of everyone is not happy. including on the Internet. Problems will not go away laughing But - they will not be visible. repeat
              2. 97110
                97110 8 December 2018 15: 14
                +2
                Quote: aybolyt678
                I'm not a lawyer

                I read something about ancient Rome, from the time of the late republic ... It was also decided there to work out a deadline to make a claim to the former consul, for example, on extortion ... This true democracy ended with the Empire ... Maybe it’s just to compile a list of pension deficit Stock? Who will we entrust?
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 15: 40
                  -6
                  Quote: 97110
                  I read something about ancient Rome,

                  decimation! decimation! wassat
                  shouted drunk pioneers (cross out) sober patriots laughing
            2. Matroskin
              Matroskin 8 December 2018 14: 54
              +3
              Well, the power is not just thieves, but thieves from the fact that it is only capitalist.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 8 December 2018 20: 19
                +2
                Quote: Matroskin
                Well, the power is not just thieves, but thieves from the fact that it is only capitalist.

                Capitalist - it is too much honor to be called a capitalist, you must first build a plant
                1. Matroskin
                  Matroskin 9 December 2018 13: 19
                  +3
                  Why build? You can privatize)) The main thing to whom the means of production belong, and not how they were acquired. Substitute concepts (no offense comrade).
              2. Victor N
                Victor N 9 December 2018 15: 38
                -5
                What was stolen from YOU?
                1. Matroskin
                  Matroskin 9 December 2018 17: 00
                  0
                  Firstly, I wrote it under this comment
                  There is an initiative group in Russia called For Responsible Power. They propose, by way of a referendum, to introduce into practice: when a new government is elected, to assess the previous one, from a proposal to reward, to a prison bench, depending on the results of work. So the current government accused them of extremism and "soldered" them real prison terms. Therefore, your idea is good, but the power of thieves will not give it a go.


                  Secondly, my position can be understood from my own comment below (I'm afraid you will not like it laughing ).
                2. ruigat
                  ruigat 9 December 2018 19: 24
                  +6
                  What was stolen from YOU?

                  Our homeland was stolen. Great Russia (USSR). And they don’t want to return, but they want to hand over the leftovers.
                3. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 09: 09
                  +1
                  Victor, N.
                  Our work, the work of our ancestors!
                4. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 06
                  0
                  And you do not know? Ownership and future.
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 09: 25
            +5
            Quote: aybolyt678
            So that at any period of service an elected person could be asked the question: "What about the promises ???"

            To paraphrase the classic:
            Only people do not like power,
            Never sip it
            He often thinks of retribution;
            Time is running out, and the deadline is near.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 8 December 2018 23: 54
              +1
              Quote: ROSS 42
              He often thinks of retribution;
              Time is running out, and the deadline is near.

              speak dangerous. Perestroika was also done in anticipation of change. First you need to think over everything, calculate and go the legal way, well, or almost legal
          3. Boris55
            Boris55 8 December 2018 10: 11
            -11
            Quote: aybolyt678
            The question is different: - what to do?

            Before answering this question, we need to understand how we have come to such a life. Only by understanding this can you change something.

            It all started after the alien gods were imposed on us. As long as we worship the alien gods, until then we will be slaves.

            It is possible to improve the pyramid of power, but only in one direction - an even more sophisticated exploitation of man by man.

            Living arrangements for people states, subject to destruction.

            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 11: 23
              0
              ! [quote] [/ Living of people according to the principle of states, is subject to destruction .quote] Forward to the primitive communal system !!!! Our happy future !! laughing From everyone, that can. to each from the leader with a club !!! laughing
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 8 December 2018 11: 38
                -7
                Quote: tanit
                Go to the primitive communal system !!!

                History has no reverse - only forward!
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 12: 37
                  +5

                  History has no reverse - only forward!
                  And if without jokes .... Lenin wrote about the "era" of socialist revolutions. The era of the piece is very long. but. And no one can prove that it is already over. hi
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 8 December 2018 13: 02
                    -5
                    Quote: tanit
                    And no one can prove that it has already ended.

                    The law of time is not imploring. We already live in new social conditions than our ancestors. If earlier the craft passed from father to children, and from them to grandchildren, today a person is forced to learn new professions, only in his life, more than once.

                    "He brings the stars from the sky,
                    He will whistle - the moon will tremble;
                    But against the time of the law
                    His science is not strong. "

            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 9 December 2018 09: 45
              +4
              Quote: Boris55
              It all started after the alien gods were imposed on us. As long as we worship the alien gods, until then we will be slaves.

              talking about the Gods, this is a very abstract conversation. If you look at religion as an ideology, you get a lot more specific.
          4. Machito
            Machito 8 December 2018 12: 31
            +11
            The current political model of the Russian Federation does not provide for feedback from the people, therefore, the authorities behave irresponsibly and do not take into account the opinion of the people, losing public support for their actions. An external threat rallies the people around the leadership, but exacerbates the poverty of the people and dissatisfaction with existing social injustice.
        2. DPN
          DPN 8 December 2018 10: 37
          +1
          On the gates of Auschwitz it was written "To each his own" that's how they will live.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 8 December 2018 11: 01
            +5
            Quote: DPN
            On the gates of Auschwitz it was written "To each his own" that's how they will live.

            This makes it easier for the owners to manage the herd.
            Only the disunity of a large nation allows a negligible number of bloodsuckers to control us. Our strength is in unity.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 8 December 2018 20: 23
              +3
              Quote: Boris55
              Our strength is in unity.

              ++ unity implies a common ideology, is there any kind of slogan or idea that is close and understandable to everyone?
          2. Navigator Basov
            Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 11: 30
            +11
            At the gates of Auschwitz it was written: labor liberates (Arbeit macht frei), as well as at the gates of many other concentration camps. Caption: to each his own (Jedem das Seine) - was installed above the gates of Buchenwald.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 8 December 2018 11: 41
              -1
              Quote: Navigator Basov
              labor liberates (Arbeit macht frei)

              Physical labor turned a monkey into a horse, but "mental" - into a man.
          3. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 12: 02
            +1
            Quote: DPN
            On the gates of Auschwitz it was written "To each his own"

            Don't ... It said: "Arbeit macht frei" (Labor liberates)
        3. kotvov
          kotvov 8 December 2018 13: 42
          +5
          . Personally, I hope that they will not continue their lives with the half-soldiers. ,,
          You watched the statistics for a long time, Russia is dying. It certainly is not a sweat, but interestingly it turns out, life has become better, and people are dying.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 8 December 2018 20: 27
            -3
            Quote: kotvov
            We’ve looked at statistics for a long time, Russia is dying. It certainly is not a sweat, but it turns out interesting, life has become better, and people are dying.

            everyone is unhappy but the country is in relative order. Around foreign supermarkets there are whole road junctions. Bad roads only in the villages. Therefore, we are dying out
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 8 December 2018 22: 23
              +4
              relative order
              interestingly you measure the order, the presence of roads around the shops. What about medicine. education, security?
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 8 December 2018 23: 51
                +4
                Quote: Gardamir
                What about medicine. education, security?

                the order is external. The medicine is provided with disposable syringes, gloves, but the word doctor in it has returned to its primitive meaning - a specialist in enchanting teeth.
                education is generally not in demand, since there is no domestic production. In addition, the collection of information does not mean knowledge, and even a large amount of knowledge without moral-volitional qualities and an ideological core levels the value of a specialist.
                Security, from what? Brutal violence has become less, because there is virtual entertainment, but I feel completely helpless in the financial sphere. Before the stupidity or cunning of our government.
        4. rayruav
          rayruav 8 December 2018 16: 07
          +4
          here you are mistaken, fascism awaits us as the highest form of the ruling oligarchy, many signs can already be noticed
        5. Campanella
          Campanella 11 December 2018 09: 03
          0
          Tanit, y.
          The hope of youth feeds ....
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 December 2018 05: 57
      +38
      Quote: Severski
      It seems that the author lives in another galaxy. Not far off but parallel

      and in your "galaxy", there was no pension reform? and prices do not climb up FOR EVERYTHING? you have a good "galaxy" .... or maybe just an ass in a warm place attached? Everything is correct The author has painted it as it is.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 8 December 2018 06: 07
        +15
        The Russian people are rapidly dying.

        I don’t quite agree ... in schools, on the contrary, I observe an increase in the number of children ... during breaks, such a din and hum comes from their roar ... sometimes nothing is heard from the other person.
        And so of course I have big claims against the Kremlin and United Russia for three anti-people laws ...
        pension law ...
        self-employed law ...
        law on summer residents ...
        hit what’s called under the breath ... and it does not say goodbye. hi
        1. tanit
          tanit 8 December 2018 06: 28
          -4
          Ahem ... And what is wrong with the self-employed? I’m embarrassed to ask, but I ask.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 8 December 2018 06: 38
            +25
            . And what is wrong with the self-employed? I’m embarrassed to ask, but I ask.

            Went for example to a friend smile assembled the cabinet non-indefinitely of course ... he knock knock ... pay tax ... why the heck is asked, I went to him. what and so for the rest of the little things ... dug up a grandmother's garden pay a tax ... hammered a nail into a stool for a friend pay a tax ... damn what the state is so keen to rip off its citizens wherever possible. hi
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 06: 40
              -21
              Oh how ... belay And have you personally paid taxes from all this already? laughing
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 06: 41
                -9
                I dare to suggest that no. laughing
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 06: 45
                  -11
                  And, you know, for some reason I am sure that you learned about the "self-employed" from articles (certainly true, of course) on the network. But the text of the law itself - and did not see it in the eyes (where to read there) laughing
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 8 December 2018 06: 46
                    -7
                    Sincerely. hi
                  2. Same lech
                    Same lech 8 December 2018 06: 53
                    +22
                    And here is the text of the law itself - and they haven’t seen it in my eyes (where can I read it)


                    Imagine reading and seeing where the bar is for now ... I repeat while it is set and while in some regions this law will be run in ...
                    but from our government I expect any dirty trick ... in five to ten years, if tax collection is successful, this bar will be lowered to the grandmother selling pies at the station.
                    After all, they undertook to cut summer residents, and they will take to cut individual citizens how to drink.
                    1. tanit
                      tanit 8 December 2018 07: 07
                      -6
                      Ahem ... your optimism about tax collection ... laughing
                    2. Pax tecum
                      Pax tecum 8 December 2018 15: 55
                      +2

                      The same LEKHA:
                      ... but from our government I expect any dirty tricks ...
                      ... they will take a haircut and a single citizen how to drink.

                      Your truth!
                      The main thing is to adopt the law in any form, and there, according to the old deputy habit, everything that is needed for the authorities is dragged through amendments, ghouls.
                2. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 15
                  0
                  Tanit, y
                  Freak, the law from January 1, 2019 comes into force as an "experiment".
              2. Same lech
                Same lech 8 December 2018 07: 02
                +16
                Oh, how ... And have you personally paid taxes from all this already?

                God forbid ... once you paid and you're all on the hook ... it's like with the blackmailers ... gave slack and the end.
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 07: 10
                  -10
                  The devil is not so terrible as people in the networks paint him, far from reality. For example, I am faced with the process of visiting the tax (garage cooperative, at the time, stupidly decided to become chairman). And it doesn't hurt. hi
                  1. Semurg
                    Semurg 8 December 2018 08: 02
                    +4
                    It has long been said that the severity of the law is offset by the weakness of execution, I can not vouch for the verbatim but the meaning is clear.
                    1. tanit
                      tanit 8 December 2018 11: 52
                      -3
                      Pay taxes - and live. (c) Princess Olga.
                      [quote] I can not vouch for verbosity [quote] laughing
                      1. Semurg
                        Semurg 8 December 2018 15: 16
                        +5
                        Do not take two skins from the tax-paying population, it is fraught to leave Princess Olga as a widow. laughing
                  2. Good mat
                    Good mat 8 December 2018 13: 54
                    +1
                    And then the matter is this - there would be a formal reason to use some unpopular law, and "formalists" will always be found in order to use it as an "argument of influence" and not even on the case being solved at the moment ... And bam, with An N amount flew off your account ... By the way, they say that the regions for the experiment in collecting taxes on the self-employed were not chosen by chance - Moscow and the Moscow region, for example, are a pretty decent "glass for the storm", don't you think ?!) )))
                    1. tanit
                      tanit 8 December 2018 14: 43
                      -5
                      Quote: Good mate
                      and there are always "formalists"

                      I will say a terrible thing - you can also find lawyers to hire a fraction. hi
                      1. tanit
                        tanit 8 December 2018 14: 44
                        -4
                        And no need to talk about "all sold all." wink
                      2. Good mat
                        Good mat 9 December 2018 00: 45
                        +1
                        You always say out loud that you are writing ?!))) Lawyers ... Zhirinovsky, for example, or that lawyer who invented this very "tax on self-employed" ... what is it ... who is Makarov ?!)))) I think it will really be easier to pay than to "hire", and even more so to find someone who will sue Sberbank. Otherwise, it's okay - please speak up.)
                2. Nick_R
                  Nick_R 8 December 2018 09: 03
                  -3
                  That is, to pay taxes to the state is to give slack? Well, of course, you are a patriot, wholeheartedly rejoice for increasing the country's defense capability. Is this not enough? Well, when it comes to money, then she has her own shirt closer to her body.
                  Comrade Samsonov wrote something about traitors who ruined the country for their selfish interests. But we are not all like that, are we?
                  1. Navigator Basov
                    Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 11: 33
                    -4
                    I will subscribe to every word. I can’t stop wondering how they all fit together in one skull. Probably, some processes are still controlled by the lower hemispheres.
                  2. Matroskin
                    Matroskin 8 December 2018 16: 28
                    +10
                    You really don’t understand?
                    And why do taxes and fees for the population increase, and affordable education, free medicine, pensions, social benefits went under the knife? And why can some oligarchs be helped at the expense of the budget? Can you distinguish an official from a businessman? And how to explain to the citizen why each state project includes a cut? And why is it that our withdrawal of capital abroad is increasing every year? Why do state channels (financed from taxes) say that the economy and wages are growing and producing yellow-chernushnaya malakhovshchina? What the hell are billions of rubles allocated to movies and TV shows, and 10-15% of them pay off? Why are natural resources not nationalized, where is the profit from them in favor of the state formed by the people? The army is numerically reduced (due to conscripts), the National Guard is increasing ... why would it?
                    If citizens don’t like where taxes go, they try not to pay them (and this is a mass phenomenon, people see bad things). If the state does not fulfill the social obligations provided by taxes, citizens do not wish to pay these taxes accordingly. It just so happened that again we have a separate state, Russia separately, as at the beginning of the 20th century. Doesn’t it remind anything?
                    1. Nick_R
                      Nick_R 8 December 2018 23: 36
                      -3
                      And how to explain to the citizen why each state project includes a cut?

                      So how are you better than a thieving official? He simply has more opportunities for theft than yours, and he will learn that he steals millions on kickbacks, and you thousands on taxes. That is the whole difference. If you were in its place, little would have changed. It turns out that a long set of words is just envy. . .
                      1. Matroskin
                        Matroskin 9 December 2018 13: 52
                        0
                        I wrote you a long answer, and then erased it ... Being determines consciousness. I think this is enough.
                      2. Navigator Basov
                        Navigator Basov 10 December 2018 19: 46
                        -1
                        Exactly. And the balance is obtained only because 1000 officials are stolen in a million, and 1 000 000 citizens in a thousand. Or 1000 officials - according to 100 000 000, and 100 000 000 citizens are still stolen for the same thousand - it does not matter. It is important that for some reason many are sure that this is justice. I threw a passing bull-calf - you do not need to force him to pick it up in the ballot box or do it yourself, but hark nearby on the asphalt. Then justice will prevail!
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                    3. Igor Polovodov
                      Igor Polovodov 9 December 2018 13: 46
                      0
                      + 100 (one hundred pluses)
                    4. Navigator Basov
                      Navigator Basov 10 December 2018 22: 12
                      -2
                      I really don’t understand how such bad officials appear from such an ideal society, of which you see yourself as a representative. They are probably coming from another planet to us. Or, nevertheless, the state is a part of society, and an inefficient society has an inefficient state. Hence the plugging of budget holes with an increase in taxes and a reduction in the social sphere, hence the decline in culture. And what have you, so wonderful, done to nationalize natural resources? Many labor collectives at enterprises gathered a council or delegated someone to some committee? (see video)


                      Why would natural resources themselves be nationalized in a capitalist society that had only recently privatized them? And in the end it turned out so that the process of separation of the state from the rest of society is mutual: as a society is separated from the state, so the state, which is part of society and its slice, is separated from the rest of society. And why does something remind you there, but the behavior of the state does not resemble its own behavior? Don't you really understand?
                      1. Matroskin
                        Matroskin 12 December 2018 01: 42
                        -1
                        Not YOU, but YOU (You are not my matchmaker or brother).
                        I really don’t understand how such bad officials appear from such an ideal society, of which you see yourself as a representative.

                        What makes you think that I see myself as a "representative of an ideal society"?
                        and an inefficient society has an inefficient state

                        laughing And how do you measure society? I thought that society is divided into classes. If you mean capitalist society, then yes, it is not effective for the majority.
                        And in the end, it turned out so that the process of separation of the state from the rest of society is mutual: as a society is separated from the state, so the state, which is part of society and its slice, is separated from the rest of society. And why does something remind you there, but the behavior of the state does not resemble its own behavior?

                        Behavior laughing what words, the "deuce" should be put by the "society" and parents should be called.
                        The state is the power of the ruling class, the ruling class is large capital, and there is no need to fill in all sorts of "slices" here. And yes, the oligarchy is building a self-contained elite, cutting off social elevators and this is a natural course of things. The leftist movement is deliberately fragmented, discredited and only gaining strength. The people are deliberately atomized by the power by the consumerist ideology, but the majority of the people, naturally, are drawn to justice (socialism). For those in power and their servants, the people would have to be milked, the people responded with hatred. In response, the capitalists, so as not to lose power, throw up ideas of solidarity (nationalism, rallying in the face of an external enemy, we are all "Orthodox", suppression of the opposition, etc.), that is, the path to fascism and this is also a natural course of things.
                        \ What I still do not understand?
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 December 2018 09: 21
                  -5
                  Quote: The same Lech
                  Oh, how ... And have you personally paid taxes from all this already?

                  God forbid ... once you paid and you're all on the hook ... it's like with the blackmailers ... gave slack and the end.

                  But tax evasion, dear, is the lack of patriotism. Along with the slope from the army, with the slope of children from the army, with the theft of state property, etc.
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 8 December 2018 11: 58
                    -4
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Along with the slope from the army, with the slope of children from the army, with the theft of state property, etc.

                    As for the children and the "slope" .... Believe it or not, sometimes you have to pay for the "call." ( wassat ) And the slope is (sometimes) free. But this is my personal experience (and my son’s repeat ) The statistics in the Kuzbass are not affected laughing
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            3. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 8 December 2018 07: 07
              -4
              Quote: The same Lech

              Went for example to a friend smile assembled the cabinet non-indefinitely of course ... he knock knock ... pay tax ... why the heck is asked, I went to him. what and so for the rest of the little things ... dug up a grandmother's garden pay a tax ... hammered a nail into a stool for a friend pay a tax ... damn what the state is so keen to rip off its citizens wherever possible. hi

              Come on, this is everywhere in the world. In Israel, he paid from 57% of taxes on his income and nothing, he lived somehow laughing
              For your non-royalty-free immediately throw 13% - for every thousand 130 rubles.
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 07: 36
                -3
                Well, how can one not die out here ?! laughing
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 December 2018 07: 49
                  -2
                  Here, in order to become extinct, one must repeat the feat of Vasisualia Lokhankin.
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 8 December 2018 11: 59
                    -2
                    First, one must determine one's role in the Russian revolution. laughing
              2. ROBIN-SON
                ROBIN-SON 9 December 2018 11: 54
                +2
                People pay taxes, they are accumulated by the state and distributed, for example, to medicine, etc. A person may not be sick all his life, but he knows if he is fit, he will receive quality honey. care. In Norway, if my memory serves me right, people pay 50% of salary taxes. But they can, if they feel unwell, spend a couple of days at home without a sick leave. And much more. Do you see this here even in the foreseeable future? Me not. Tell us 13% tax. But in this way, we have hundreds of times more population. Therefore, more taxes are collected in total.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 9 December 2018 12: 33
                  -3
                  Ok, let's not pay taxes. All will switch to self-sufficiency. Doctors, cops, prosecutors, judges, firefighters, army))
                  And the education system. How long will it last?
                  1. ROBIN-SON
                    ROBIN-SON 9 December 2018 14: 50
                    +1
                    I do not urge not to pay taxes !! I consider tax evasion to say the least unethical. But I want to say that many do not pay taxes. Of course, from the middle peasants and below they generally take. But I read that some Rublevsky did not pay for their homes.
                    I'm not talking about indirect taxes on products, gasoline, etc. What is their share? Probably not less than 50%.
                    In addition, we, in addition to taxes on the population, have very good money for the sale of raw materials, gas, oil, etc. probably no less per person than the Norwegians.
                    So why do we live so badly? And I think with an increase in the tax burden, we will not live better.
                  2. Campanella
                    Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 22
                    +1
                    25 years already pulling. And if it were not for the sanctions dragged on. But the nouveau riches were unlucky ....
              3. ruigat
                ruigat 9 December 2018 19: 35
                +3
                In Israel, he paid from 57% of taxes on his income and nothing, he lived somehow

                But for some reason they returned to the Russian Federation. It can be seen from the Russian oligarchy boxes of cookies and jars of jam more than in the citadel of Zionism (fascism).
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 9 December 2018 21: 30
                  -2
                  He moved for personal reasons)) And in the citadel of silnism (by the way, I did not meet supporters of the Duce laughing ) I had everything very good. The Zionist proletariat seems to be too)).
            4. Freeman
              Freeman 12 December 2018 00: 56
              0
              The same LEKHA (Alexey) December 8, 2018 06:38
              dug up a grandmother garden pay tax ...

              what Bliiin ... Here you are puzzled.
              For such work, they usually take in "liquid currency", how can you pay tax with "gurgles"?
              - And how to calculate 4% of the 21st "gurgle"?
              wassat laughing
        2. HDZ
          HDZ 8 December 2018 06: 40
          +28
          I agree! Schools are crowded. My son has a class of 40 people, which is not the norm for the second class.
          Only two out of five schools in the district are no longer schools, but a private clinic and a pension fund. And a third of the Bakhtiyar class are Zhalgenbaevs and Diana Obloevs.
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 06: 50
            -16
            Danila, what's wrong with Bakhtiyar or Diana? Tell, do not be shy.
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 26
              0
              And you are stupid and do not understand?
              I wonder why your civilized capitalist west howled? And did Trump even order a shoot?
              I see that you are tanit, you should not think.
          2. Severok
            Severok 8 December 2018 12: 17
            +10
            Schools and kindergartens are overcrowded for one reason, which has been in Moscow since the 1993 coup. This reason closed down "unnecessary" schools and kindergartens, hospitals and enterprises, deprived our children of the future by taking away the achievements of Socialism and giving in return Malakhov, Norkin, Kiselev, Brilev, Medvedev, Miller, Naibullin, Siluanov, Gref, Matvienka, Sobyanin and other abomination that dictates to the people of Russia the rules of life.
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 09: 36
          +18
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And so of course I have big claims against the Kremlin and United Russia for three anti-people laws ...

          What about the VAT law? What was he taken from? Why, not being able to create the necessary taxes and levy the existing ones, everything has been put on the consumer?
          And the progressive personal income tax scale?
          A moratorium on the death penalty and complete confiscation?
          And the issuance of powers by the Central Bank (the law on the Central Bank) under which speculative banks and various "quick money" have proliferated?
          And what about the law on trade unions and labor legislation that gives the employer the right to put on workers "with the device"?
          Yes, no matter where you go, starting with the court and ending with medical care, the police and the housing and communal services - everything is imprisoned against an ordinary citizen. From this and pestilence in Russia. In the literal sense - the extinction of the titular nation.
          1. Navigator Basov
            Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 12: 29
            -10
            Oh, RLO again! Such extinction, directly such extinction, that there is not enough maternal capital for everyone!


            As can be seen from the graphs, the population only died out under Khrushchev and Gorbachev, Brezhnev, and, admittedly, Yeltsin at least stopped extinction, and then only growth (with a local minimum of the crisis that does not change the trend).
            1. Topgun
              Topgun 8 December 2018 13: 12
              +6
              Where did you see growth on "your" charts?
              there is a slowdown in the rate of decline! population but there is no growth !!!
              and if you were at least a little in the subject, well, at least a little you would understand what the positive dynamics are connected with (peak of the 80-85s) and now they are finishing giving birth - then the abyss ...
            2. minus
              minus 8 December 2018 13: 42
              +4
              Under Yeltsin, extinction has stopped! ??? You are a liar! And these are your charts .. .....
              .. you can’t write, they will be banned right away ....
            3. Campanella
              Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 30
              -1
              Thick tin ....
          2. Alber
            Alber 10 December 2018 14: 18
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            And so of course I have big claims against the Kremlin and United Russia for three anti-people laws ...

            What about the VAT law? What was he taken from? Why, not being able to create the necessary taxes and levy the existing ones, everything has been put on the consumer?
            And the progressive personal income tax scale?
            A moratorium on the death penalty and complete confiscation?
            And the issuance of powers by the Central Bank (the law on the Central Bank) under which speculative banks and various "quick money" have proliferated?
            And what about the law on trade unions and labor legislation that gives the employer the right to put on workers "with the device"?
            Yes, no matter where you go, starting with the court and ending with medical care, the police and the housing and communal services - everything is imprisoned against an ordinary citizen. From this and pestilence in Russia. In the literal sense - the extinction of the titular nation.

            This is not extinction. This is the destruction, the genocide of the Russian people organized by the Zionofashists
        4. Boris55
          Boris55 8 December 2018 10: 30
          -11
          Quote: The same LYOKHA, ROSS 42
          And so I certainly have big complaints about The Kremlin and United Russia for three anti-people laws ...
          retirement law ...
          law about the self-employed ...
          law about summer residents ...


          The laws are adopted by the Duam. The Kremlin issues decrees.


          Are you putting the cart before the horse again? Tell me, what do you think, if the Duma had not adopted all these laws, would the Kremlin have to sign something? But Putin didn’t appoint the Duma, and not Medvedev — we chose this. Would vote for the Communist Party-and there would not be all these laws and there would be nothing for the Kremlin to sign!
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 11: 25
            -1
            Oh how .... belay [quote] The laws are accepted by the Duam [quote] .. Ahem. Is duam one of the reptilians? Or from the annuas? laughing
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 8 December 2018 11: 41
              -4
              Quote: tanit
              Is duam one of the reptilians? Or from the annuas?

              The Duma are those whom we have chosen, but are embarrassed to admit to this.
              1. Severok
                Severok 8 December 2018 12: 28
                +7
                The Duma are those whom we have chosen, but are embarrassed to admit to this.

                None of these thoughts have chosen, because no column against all - deliberately removed, no turnout threshold - deliberately removed. If these two moments are returned in the elections, not a single "candidate" will pass the elections, because the candidates are not representatives of the majority, but are the proteges of hucksters, usurers, speculators and thieves.

                Where do those who vote come from? - either deceived, or naive, or pressed by an administrative resource, or those who are against everyone and spoil the paper.
              2. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 12: 44
                -3
                Quote: Boris55
                The Duma are those whom we have chosen, but are embarrassed to admit to this.

                Why be shy? No, I understand that to vote for United Russia and admit it must have the courage laughing But what is there to fear for the "communists"? Voronenkov-face (and part of the body, about a meter lower) KPRF -You do not like something ?! belay Yes you are putinoid, kremlebot, sodomite and freemason. belay wassat
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 34
                  +1
                  Do you have to think, Gapon?
              3. ruigat
                ruigat 9 December 2018 19: 39
                +2
                Duma are those we have chosen

                You have chosen, and you are shy. Do not spread your erotic fantasies at all.
          2. Giants
            Giants 8 December 2018 17: 57
            +1
            Quote: Boris55
            The laws are adopted by the Duam. The Kremlin issues decrees.

            Boris, you are already tired of this lie. Duma considers bill! After adoption by the State Duma, the bill is passed to the Federation Council. The Federation Council can consider the bill within two weeks and either approve it or reject it.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 8 December 2018 19: 09
              -4
              Quote: Giants
              Boris, you are already tired of this lie. The Duma is considering a bill! After adoption by the State Duma, the bill is passed to the Federation Council. The Federation Council can consider the bill within two weeks and either approve it or reject it.

              I lie?! We read articles of the Constitution:

              Article 105

              1. Federal laws are adopted by the State Duma.

              2. Federal laws are adopted by a majority of votes of the total number of deputies of the State Duma, unless otherwise provided by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

              3. The federal laws adopted by the State Duma shall be submitted within five days to the Federation Council for consideration.

              4. A federal law is considered approved by the Federation Council if more than half of the total number of members of this chamber have voted for it or if it has not been considered by the Federation Council within fourteen days. In case of rejection of a federal law by the Council of the Federation, the chambers may create a conciliation commission to overcome the disagreements that have arisen, after which the federal law is subject to repeated consideration by the State Duma.

              5. In case of disagreement of the State Duma with the decision of the Council of the Federation, a federal law is considered adopted if at the second vote at least two thirds of the total number of deputies of the State Duma voted for it.

              Article 107

              1. The adopted federal law is sent to the President of the Russian Federation for five days for signing and promulgation.

              2. The President of the Russian Federation, within fourteen days, signs the federal law and promulgates it.

              3. If the President of the Russian Federation rejects it within fourteen days from the receipt of the federal law, the State Duma and the Council of the Federation will again consider this law in the manner prescribed by the Constitution of the Russian Federation. If, upon repeated consideration, the federal law is approved as previously adopted by a majority of at least two-thirds of the total number of members of the Federation Council and deputies of the State Duma, it is subject to signing President of the Russian Federation for seven days and promulgation.

              We will assume that your attempt to smear EP - failed.
              1. Giants
                Giants 8 December 2018 20: 36
                +1
                Quote: Boris55
                We will assume that your attempt to smear EP - failed.

                You are tired of nature, if you consider me a fan of edra and Putin. Before writing this, it would be better to look in the mirror.
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 9 December 2018 08: 24
                  -3
                  Quote: Giants
                  You are tired of nature, if you consider me a fan of edra and Putin. Before writing this, it would be better to look in the mirror.

                  I never hid the fact that I am a supporter of Putin, but that you are not a supporter of the United Russia, it’s just in words, and allotted you are trying in every possible way to dissuade her from popular anger for anti-people’s laws and blame everything on the president, about whom he dreams West.

                  In all of this, one thing is good that the people will study at least some of the articles of the Constitution. hi

                  PS
                  From the above articles of the Constitution it follows that the last word always remains with our chosen ones - the Duma.
          3. Borey 53
            Borey 53 9 December 2018 13: 37
            +1
            That's right, if you voted for the Communist Party there were other laws. but I doubt the adequacy of these laws. Not a single party was represented in the elections for which one could vote, one worse than the other. This I call a truly political crisis.
      2. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 06: 27
        -6
        As it is? Let's put it on the shelves? Or is this action unusual for you?
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 December 2018 06: 50
        -2
        Baby boom is present. In my house there are at least two children in the family.
        1. tanit
          tanit 8 December 2018 06: 57
          -2
          Vsevrete, what are you - are not going to die out ?! laughing
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 December 2018 07: 02
            -3
            That is not, I have a fourth (soon) will be born))
            And yes, we’re dying out, sir ..
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 07: 17
              -7
              I already have a grandson (the son of my eldest daughter). But - yes, we are dying out with laughing
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 09: 53
                +9
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Baby boom is present. In my house there are at least two children in the family.

                Quote: tanit
                Vsevrete, what are you - are not going to die out ?!

                Quote: Krasnodar
                That is not, I have a fourth (soon) will be born))
                And yes, we’re dying out, sir ..

                Quote: tanit
                I already have a grandson (the son of my eldest daughter). But - yes, we are dying out with

                Do you know how the number of children in your families affected the number of people in Russia?
                Look and compare, do not forget the year 2014 and the adoption of Crimea with the composition of the Russian Federation:

                And this is the data for my region. Watch the rebirth rush:
                1. tanit
                  tanit 8 December 2018 10: 18
                  -7
                  AND? Are we guilty of not living in Kuzbass? Or is it that there are more than one children? belay
                  1. Ross xnumx
                    Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 10: 48
                    +9
                    Quote: tanit

                    AND? Are we guilty of not living in Kuzbass?

                    Did I blame you for this? I am giving you the factual data of the Federal State Statistics Service, which says that the "Baby Boom" you are promoting is only in your heads, but it is not visible in the country, and you are here "kobenit", reject information and figures and talk about living in Kuzbass. A couple lives opposite my apartment: Igor and Irina. They have three children. But this did not affect the population growth in Kuzbass in any way. But the ex-governor, Aman Tuleyev, who became the rector of the Kuzbass Institute for the Development of Professional Education, contributed his silver coins to the baby boom. Until now, people are shaking at the very mention.
                    No need to give out your wish behind Russian reality. In fact, the population of Moscow has increased since the beginning of the 90s by 30%. What did it affect and how?
                    1. tanit
                      tanit 8 December 2018 11: 27
                      -4
                      Quote: ROSS 42
                      only in your head

                      Really? Personally, I wrote about my family. hi
                    2. Navigator Basov
                      Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 12: 32
                      -7
                      Just in the country it is visible, if it is not visible in your Kuzbass - this is your, including yours, flaw. The other would have long had something to think about, but change his behavior, but there are those who always blame either someone else or their own eggs prevent dancing.
                  2. Alber
                    Alber 10 December 2018 15: 00
                    +1
                    Quote: tanit
                    AND? Are we guilty of not living in Kuzbass? Or is it that there are more than one children? belay

                    You Zionists are guilty of that: you fraudulently destroyed the country, destroyed industry, killed agriculture, created an artificial shortage of products and goods, imported alcohol and drugs through their secret structures, thereby organizing the genocide of the indigenous population, destroying education and healthcare.
                    Bleed peoples among themselves and from the side observe the consequences, meanwhile removing the gesheft from everything.
                    And you think that you get away with it?
                    The people begin to see and understand who is behind all this.
                    And sometime you will have to answer for all that has been done
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 December 2018 10: 52
                  -6
                  In the Krasnodar Territory, other indicators.
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 8 December 2018 12: 01
                    -5
                    Do you believe whom ?! Myself ?! Yes you are a mason !! belay You need to believe the tablets in the comments. soldier wassat
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 8 December 2018 12: 38
                      -5
                      I'm worse. I am a trainer. laughing Just kidding. I'm not a Mason, everything else is true))
                  2. Alexander Ra
                    Alexander Ra 8 December 2018 12: 51
                    +5
                    It would be interesting to see statistics on the structure of the population in Krasnodar from the 80s by nationalities and years.
                    1. Alber
                      Alber 10 December 2018 15: 49
                      0
                      Since these times, several million Armenians have moved to the Krasnodar Territory, gained a foothold and began to actively survive (squeeze out) the indigenous population of the Kuban. As well as in the Stavropol and Rostov-on-Don regions ...
                      This is such gratitude to the Russian people for their help in rebuilding Armenia after the 1988 earthquake, as well as for saving them from destruction by the Turks.
                      What can you do, this is the mentality of this tribe. Even if the Catholicos of Armenians Fasgen, or Phosgene called upon the Armenians to "persuade" the Russians to leave "these fertile lands of the Armenians intended for us ..."
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 8 December 2018 10: 04
          +10
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Baby boom is present. In my house there are at least two children in the family.

          In a four-family cottage? wonderful performance! And in the neighboring nine-story building-Khrushchev, how are things going with the "baby boom"?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 December 2018 10: 54
            -2
            Quote: sabakina
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Baby boom is present. In my house there are at least two children in the family.

            In a four-family cottage? wonderful performance! And in the neighboring nine-story building-Khrushchev, how are things going with the "baby boom"?

            My driver has an 2 child, the former distributor has 3, the 22-24 summer workers have one at a time .. continue?
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 12: 03
              -3
              Do not freemasonry further. The committee of childless mothers and fathers will take you to clean water. laughing
              1. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 12: 07
                -4
                Quote: Krasnodar
                My driver has an 2 child, the former distributor has 3, the 22-24 summer workers have one at a time .. continue?

                Do you have children?
                Nnnet.
                No?
                Nattt. This is our family.
                Yes?
                Tta. My mom and pappa didn’t have any children.
                Yes?
                Tta. My papushka and auntie didn’t have a Tetey.
                Ahem ... And where are you from?
                Yah? Ya from Kuzbass.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 December 2018 12: 40
                  -4
                  good laughing
                  Budding. So the giffem!
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 8 December 2018 14: 04
                    -2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Budding. So the giffem!

                    Do not play around, "nulliparous mothers" and "childless fathers" have already targeted you. soldier wassat
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 12: 14
              +5
              Quote: Krasnodar
              My driver has an 2 child, the former distributor has 3, the 22-24 summer workers have one at a time .. continue?

              A similar garbage, only with the opposite sign and I can bring.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 December 2018 12: 42
                -2
                I mean with a sign on the contrary? The driver’s wife had two abortions, the seller’s wife 3, and the workers one at a time?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 12: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  I mean with a sign on the contrary?

                  In the sense that there are no children. Absolutely.
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              2. tanit
                tanit 8 December 2018 12: 48
                -3
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Similar garbage

                That is, you yourself your data, based on your personal experience, definitely call garbage? Boldly. laughing Do I dare to suggest that all of your (certainly most valuable) statements on this resource in the foreseeable past are the same? belay laughing
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 12: 58
                  +3
                  Quote: tanit
                  That is, you yourself your data, based on your personal experience, definitely call garbage?

                  Naturally, the same as the data of Krasnodar.
                  Quote: tanit
                  Do I dare to suggest that all of your (certainly most valuable) statements on this resource in the foreseeable past are the same?

                  Try to refute my data.
                  1. tanit
                    tanit 8 December 2018 13: 14
                    -3
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Try to refute my data.

                    Why should I do this? laughing
                    Your data is "the same garbage." From your own words. hi
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 13: 21
                      +3
                      Quote: tanit
                      Your data is "the same garbage."

                      My "bullshit" - only in this case. Do not go behind a stone with cancer.
                      1. tanit
                        tanit 8 December 2018 14: 50
                        -1
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        My "bullshit" - only in this case. Do not go behind a stone with cancer.

                        Be warned - when you just drive a blizzard in "this case". And when - just drive. hi
                        Request. hi
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 15: 43
                        +4
                        Quote: tanit
                        Be warned - when you just drive a blizzard in "this case". And when - just drive.
                        Request.

                        Yes, Christmas trees! What, it’s not obvious that I’m carrying the same blizzard as Krasnodar? He points to those who have children, I, in turn, can point to those who have no children. Isn't that a blizzard? No, we must learn from Peskov.
                      3. tanit
                        tanit 8 December 2018 16: 28
                        -1
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        No, we must learn from Peskov.

                        N, I’m learning from Banshee. laughing
                      4. tanit
                        tanit 8 December 2018 16: 32
                        -2
                        The shoulder straps you and the Krasnodar dash are different. And the dash demand is different. laughing
                      5. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 16: 45
                        0
                        Quote: tanit
                        And the dash demand is different.

                        Hehe haha? I also neighing when ...
            3. Campanella
              Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 41
              0
              Do you bother them in shekels?
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 11 December 2018 15: 26
                -1
                In rubles. I live in the Russian Federation.
            4. Campanella
              Campanella 11 December 2018 15: 28
              0
              Krasnodar, just do not assure the people that you have nothing to do with it.
              You have impressive stats.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 11 December 2018 15: 39
                -1
                To what? To workers, to children? To the shekels?
        3. Severok
          Severok 8 December 2018 12: 30
          +3
          Baby boom is present.


          Yeah. This is if there is an opportunity to feed someone, except themselves and one more. Most people are deprived of this opportunity.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 December 2018 12: 47
            -5
            Depends on the needs. In the most expensive areas of Manhattan, there is also one average child per family - but for a different reason.
            I believe in the following - the first commandment: "Be fruitful and multiply." And as soon as you have children, grandmothers come from above - if you yourself are not lying on the sofa, of course. Type of pattern, or something.
            1. Severok
              Severok 8 December 2018 13: 15
              +6
              Sir, I'm not talking about the fact that the family has a car. Not to say that every three days on restaurants. I am talking about the minimum that allows you to support a family of more than three people. This is a father, mother and one or two children.
              I will give an example: Murmansk, family income does not exceed 70 tr with all proceeds (salaries, allowances, tax deductions), two-room apartment, four children, alimony is paid on one of them (-25% of the father’s income - at the output no higher than 50 tr)
              Mandatory payment costs:
              rent - 2300
              heating - 5600
              overhaul - 400
              electricity with electric stove - 1100
              kindergarten - 1100x2 - 2200
              food at school - 3500x1
              Total: 15100

              The cost of products in Murmansk:
              beef shoulder blade from 480 r / kg, pork from 400 r \ kg (also a shoulder blade), Darnitsky bread 350 g 39 r., sliced ​​loaf up to 42 r. (not in accordance with GOST, 300 g - 35 r.), millet 42 r / kg, rice about 50 r / kg, headless cod freezing 320 r / kg, egg 1 dess. 56 r., Dumplings 450 gr. - from 200 p., retail potatoes from 36 p / kg to 52 p. in the spring, onions 24 p / kg, cucumbers from 60 p. / kg and in the spring from 160 p. kg, chicken legs 160-180 p. kg.
              Children's shoes 35 rr new from 3500, tights from 200 r. for height 110 cm, winter jacket from 5000, winter hat half-hat from 800 r, knitted gloves from 150 to 600 r (depending on quality), waterproof gloves 1300 r., notebook 12 sheets ruler 8 r., school backpack below 1200 is not necessary and look, a shirt to school 1500 for 7 years of age, trousers under the arrow and a jacket to school 5-6 tr ..
              And do not forget, adults also need to get dressed, and we get a 32-trolley bus with NG XNUMX r.
              Total 44900 is divided into five - 8980 goes to one. Below the minimum wage per family member in the region and (hello to social workers) above the living wage as much as 1000 rubles.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 December 2018 13: 40
                -10
                I know that is difficult. But you can increase family income, one day off per week, for example, to tax, fortunately, there are offices providing a car, etc. hi
                1. Severok
                  Severok 8 December 2018 13: 49
                  +5
                  Sir, when to tax and to whom? Work from 7 am to the stop, sleep about 6 hours, no more, six days. You sit behind the wheel of a heavy truck and forward according to this schedule! And it is extremely necessary to allocate time for children, otherwise geeks will grow.
                  Sorry, but you are not able to reason normally on this topic. Either you do not work in this mode or you do not have children. This creates an impression. And yet, this is the North. In the soil, except dill \ parsley \ potato, nothing grows, there is no subsidiary farm. Yes, and if there was, there wasn’t any strength left on him - from work, as if to shove his legs, I save on travel. We walk around the city mainly on foot.
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                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 8 December 2018 23: 38
                    -1
                    Why not? Fourth on the road. More precisely, the fourth. In this mode, I really do not work - an office (already home) worm.
                2. Campanella
                  Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 43
                  0
                  Krasnodar, y.
                  You poor fellow also tax? Have you tried to pick berries?
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 11 December 2018 14: 54
                    -1
                    No. I eat moss. From the walls. Penicillin however.
                    1. Campanella
                      Campanella 11 December 2018 15: 20
                      0
                      As I understand it, still mold, if we are talking about penicillin
              2. Campanella
                Campanella 11 December 2018 14: 47
                0
                What do vampires explain? It’s the same as throwing beads in front of pigs. They can only get advice for free, and therefore breed like rabbits.
            2. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 13: 16
              -2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              if you’re not lying on the sofa yourself

              Yes, you are definitely a Freemason with the prefix J. laughing
              How is it - not to lie on the couch ?! wassat Terrible things you write here .... laughing
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 December 2018 13: 47
                -2
                From the sofa Zhdovskie 30 Serebryanikov not earn! crying
      4. rayruav
        rayruav 8 December 2018 16: 13
        0
        Sorry, dear, I’m not against your opinion, but while the streets of the center of the subsidized region are clogged with foreign cars, it’s too early to talk about impoverishment
        1. tanit
          tanit 8 December 2018 16: 38
          -5
          Masons. they everywhere . they all scored .. And yes - they bought foreign cars. And all for just one thing - that would be a Vedic hyperborean shit under the door belay
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        4. Alexander Ra
          Alexander Ra 8 December 2018 19: 16
          +6
          Quote: rayruav
          too early to talk about impoverishment

          Caught up with foreign cars from the fact that they effectively dragged everyone into spinning the wheels of consumerism. This is the appearance of wealth, which draws vitality from the majority. E. Toffler, a hundred years ago, noted that 80% of goods and services are civil. society are not vital.
    4. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 06: 25
      -7
      In perpendicular. In a parallel galaxy, he would be placed in a parallel branch of the Kanachikovo dacha.
    5. Detective
      Detective 8 December 2018 14: 25
      -7
      Quote: Severski

      It seems that the author lives in another galaxy. Not far off but parallel

      By the number of minuses that the Samson galaxy has put to you, it still has its own population ...
      There is absolutely no desire to comment on all these pearls. Why Samsonov stubbornly calls the "Red Empire" of the USSR Russian is a complete mystery of nature, the answer to which is probably in the same Samsonian alternative reality. But he apparently did not find her there either. Perhaps soon, with all the local alternative population, they will master deep space and move to another ... Apparently the leader of the alternative people believes that it is a longed-for happiness for Russians and Belarusians to work hard in the sweat of their brow and from every 3 rubles earned, give 1 to one Georgian, one Latvian, who is an Armenian ... and at the same time live worse than both "brothers" in the USSR and "brothers" in the socialist camp that existed on the same hard and honestly earned money by the Russians! And Samsonov answers this absolutely honestly - yes, exactly! After all, he directly openly calls people who want to live beautifully as a degenerate population! Those. people who have a natural desire to live well according to Samsonov are degenerates! However, apparently the "degenerates" with Samsonov deeply disagree on that at all and did not come out to defend the Soviet paradise! By the way, there were no nondegenerates either, so draw your own conclusions, gentlemen. By the way, I also disagree about the completely decomposed Soviet party chief and the entourage of the leaders. They did not decompose, they were just initially completely far from such goals as to benefit some kind of Russian people! That's all. I am looking forward to the author's article about the deity and the wise brahmana - the guru of the sun of Stalin, who probably came to us also from the star dadekaaaaaaaaa ... How else? Who can compare with a wise father - a leader and a wonderful Georgian man ?! That's right - there are no such and cannot be!
    6. A.Lex
      A.Lex 8 December 2018 18: 51
      +1
      Oleg ... You live in another dimension ... Or blind ... Or maybe you don't live in Russia, that's why you are scribbling this nonsense ... Or maybe (admit it!) You were paid, like a Judas - a tagged bear ? True, "30 pieces of silver" his and yours are not comparable, but the level of betrayal he has with you is different ...
    7. digitalcn75
      digitalcn75 9 December 2018 12: 43
      -3
      You are absolutely right. Samsonov seems to be very bad, it's time to help with medication.
    8. Vend
      Vend 10 December 2018 10: 34
      0
      Quote: Severski
      Since 1991, the peoples of Russia have fallen under the rule of the global mafia and its puppet marionettes, the colonial administration. The genocide of the Russian people and other indigenous peoples of the Russian civilization began:

      And a lot of people minus you in the same place, and now they will begin to minus me laughing
    9. Garri_
      Garri_ 10 December 2018 16: 42
      0
      ... just the author lives in that reality .. and it is very unfortunate ..
  2. tanit
    tanit 8 December 2018 07: 04
    -4
    Samsonov Alexander .. Head of the "History" department at VO ... But not the worst books were published in paper under this name. The truth is in the last century. Sorry to see the "evolution".
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2018 07: 34
      +4
      Quote: tanit
      Sorry to see the "evolution".

      from what? a brief summary of recent history! and not a word about what to do? Is it really like Phoenix through the flames of war?
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 December 2018 09: 50
      +3
      Quote: tanit
      Samsonov Alexander .. Head of the "History" department at VO ... But not the worst books were published in paper under this name. The truth is in the last century. Sorry to see the "evolution".

      Dear Vadim, what is evolution? Or do you have sarcasm? Samsonov Alexander in the last century ---- Academician of the USSR. Indeed, the author of wonderful books. I have a SECOND WORLD WAR, 1985. SOVIET UNION DURING THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR, also 1985, where he is in the editorial board, among others. This is a completely different person. There was the same surname-name at the beginning of the last century, general ..
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 10: 20
        -2
        Dear Dmitry, I wanted to write "degradation", but did not want to receive another warning "for disrespect to the author." repeat
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 8 December 2018 10: 59
          +3
          In my opinion, Vadim, this author is trying to express a Russian idea that could strengthen our country. He searches for words, selects, it seems ---- now! But how can this be done if this idea, the strength of the Russian nation does not correspond to the capitalist system and the liberal path?
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 12: 52
            -3
            Quote: Reptiloid
            , the strength of the Russian nation does not correspond to the capitalist system and the liberalistic path

            And before that - it did not correspond to the feudal system smile And before it - to the slave-owning (the system, it seems, was not there. And the slaves were) smile
            Though. according to V.I. Lenin - now the era of socialist revolutions. It’s a long era. And not every revolution in this era is uniquely successful. hi
          2. rayruav
            rayruav 8 December 2018 16: 24
            +2
            Who will give you the Russian idea now?
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 16: 41
              -4
              Quote: rayruav
              Who will give you the Russian idea now?

              And who dares to ban it?
              You see, my young, not very smart friend ... The Russian idea does not mean cutting all non-Russians
  3. oracul
    oracul 8 December 2018 07: 29
    +12
    Still, the idea that the new is the well-forgotten old is true. The author did not discover anything new, but repeated what has been known since the post-war times about Dulles's words, about the decision of the US National Security Council (1948), which in fact became a program of action to collapse not only the USSR, but also the bloc of socialist countries. The trouble came from where the country, the people did not expect, but it was exactly how it was programmed in the West - the corruption of the ruling elite, the substitution of concepts, ridicule of ideals, the gradual rewriting of history, pushing the necessary people into power, minimizing the power and influence of Moscow, etc. ... It seems that many current politicians, deputies and most of the elite do not bother to study history and documents, they overly trust various interpreters of our history, reducing it to the negative, essentially rewriting it to please the West, live in social networks and on different kind of "tokovischah" on TV, PR and getting money for it.
  4. kalibr
    kalibr 8 December 2018 07: 35
    +18
    Quote: aybolyt678
    So that at any time of service an elected person could be asked a question - but what about the promises ???

    And they will answer you - the machinations of the United States. Military threat. And where did the money go - MILITARY SECRET!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 09: 57
      +6
      Quote: kalibr
      And they will answer you - the machinations of the United States. Military threat.

      They don't have enough sense to repeat Russian words. They will refer to sanctions, inflation, default, stagnation, variable surplus deficits and eternal hungry not so "effective managers" ...
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2018 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      And they will answer you - US machinations

      no need to be answered. It is necessary that they answer competent comrades
    3. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 13: 20
      -5
      [quote] [MILITARY SECRET! / quote]
      Vyacheslav Olegovich - do you not know that "MILITARY SECRET" is the most preserved (sometimes with the stamp "Keep forever") category of archival documents. hi
      And how to access them. You yourself described the procedure, no? hi
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 8 December 2018 17: 08
        -3
        That's why I wrote it!
  5. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 8 December 2018 07: 39
    +5
    Thanks to the author! Awesome article. The theme of these days is not affected, and therefore does not push different groups of readers against their foreheads. In my opinion, everything is brief and objective
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 14: 09
      -2

      Igorbrsv Today, 07:39 AM
      Thanks to the author! Awesome article

      But I will subscribe to every word. And thanks to the author. And the article is amazing. wink
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 8 December 2018 07: 42
    +6
    Everything is fine, deadwood in the forest can be collected for free, there is toilet paper, and the author draws terrible pictures ... smile
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 December 2018 09: 52
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      All perfectly,.. smile
      Pension reform --- this is not something incomprehensible,
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 13: 22
        -1
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Pension reform --- this is not something incomprehensible,

        Oh ... Yes, in general, everything is clear. laughing There are two versions to choose from:
        1. Destroy Russia.
        2. Extend the agony of Russia. And then destroy.
        laughing
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 8 December 2018 10: 04
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      Everything is fine, deadwood in the forest can be collected for free

      Or delay in containers ... belay
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 December 2018 11: 09
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      All perfectly, ... smile
      The pension reform is a continuation of all 26 years, all the changes that seem to have taken place without malice, and finally - here you are! And, as in the old YERALASH: "And he was sick of him and on kumpol, on kumpol," And how the rhetoric changed instantly --- the state should not ... cancel pensions, only benefits for disabled people ... medicine should be paid ......etc..
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 13: 34
        +1
        Do you want in China? laughing Seriously? laughing
        1.Medicine - paid. From the word "absolutely". For those who yell "and we have, and we have" - ​​I will explain. At "us" there was a queue to see a therapist, and he, putinoid Kudrinsky, prescribed medications for you, which are paid (or maybe free repeat ) Bastard? Bastard.
        At "them". In the PRC. I stood in line at the cashier. Paid for a visit to a therapist. And then the same as with "us".
        Did you catch the difference? laughing
        2. Secondary education is paid. How?! You're Typing !!!!
        Alas, I'm not lying. Free education in China - only within the elementary school. Yes, there are options for the gifted - and in modern Russia there are also such.
        3. Pension. The average pension in China is higher than in Russia. Fact.
        And now (not all victims of the USE) - we consider a column on a piece of paper. Data. The number of pensioners in China.
        The total number of people who have reached retirement age in China.
        Counted up? laughing
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 December 2018 13: 51
          -2
          Only in the PRC, EMNIP, have they recently begun to pay it, as such. Prior to this, senior managers of large companies, officials (the Communist Party, after all) and the military with the police received pension.
          1. tanit
            tanit 8 December 2018 16: 43
            -1
            So I'm talking about that. hi
            1. tanit
              tanit 8 December 2018 16: 45
              -2
              It’s just such "ochuchunie" - the Unified State Exam began under Brezhnev .. There are too many victims.
        2. Claymore
          Claymore 8 December 2018 17: 03
          0
          Quote: tanit
          And now (not all victims of the USE) - we consider a column on a piece of paper. Data. The number of pensioners in China.
          The total number of people who have reached retirement age in China.

          The number of pensioners and the total number of people who have reached retirement age in China coincides - the total number of people who have reached retirement age and the number of state pensioners do not match.
  7. anjey
    anjey 8 December 2018 07: 56
    +1
    All of the above seems to be correct, but in life all the fifties are fifties, 50 to 50, so we will live and there God will decide who to die out ....
  8. 1536
    1536 8 December 2018 08: 06
    +14
    So don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t stab, look for quality products and eat only them, don’t look at the garbage media and don’t listen to their Goodwin — great and terrible, don’t choose swindlers and thieves to control, as a rule, people who came from territories already destroyed by them and states. And come to kill, sell your life more expensive ... As the poet and writer Konstantin Simonov wrote there, who knew what fascism and war were, and called things by their proper names:
    "If your house is dear to you,
    Where have you been nourished by the Russians,
    ................................................
    If you do not want sex
    In your house, the fascist trampled,
    So he sat down at the grandfather's table
    And I broke the trees in the garden ...
    ......................................................
    If you are a fascist with a gun
    You do not want to give up forever
    The house where you lived, your wife and mother,
    All that we call homeland
    Know: no one will save her,
    If you do not save her;
    Know: no one will kill him,
    If you do not kill him.
    ...............................................
    So kill the fascist, so that he,
    And you did not lie on the ground,
    Not in your house to moan,
    And he stood by him in the dead.
    So he wanted, his guilt, -
    Let his house burn, and not yours,
    And let not your wife,
    And let him be a widow. "
    (URL: http://thefireofthewar.ru/lirika/?p=2273) date of reference 8.12.18)

    The poem was written in the summer of 1942, and then there was the Battle of Stalingrad.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 8 December 2018 10: 14
      +3
      Quote: 1536
      So don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t thrash, look for quality products and eat only them, don’t watch the garbage media and don’t listen to their Goodwin — great and terrible, don’t choose swindlers and thieves to control, as a rule, people who came from territories already destroyed by them and states. And come to kill, sell your life more expensive ...
      Eugene, I agree with everything, except for the products. Don't tell my sneakers! Where did you see quality products? Where did you see that the letter "E" was absent on the product label? Beer, and then they will be boiled !!!! am
  9. Snail N9
    Snail N9 8 December 2018 08: 47
    +4
    And where - about the "Russian super-ethnos"? "Nizachot" ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 8 December 2018 10: 16
      +2
      Snail, if they did not write about you, this does not mean that you are not. wink
  10. Claymore
    Claymore 8 December 2018 09: 03
    +2
    In August – December 1991, the Third World War
    If interstate competition, figuratively called the "cold war", could be called a world war in the literal sense, then it would not be the third, but the first world - going on from the beginning of the formation of states.

    Those. it is obvious that Samsonov made a substitution of concepts.

    Great Russia (USSR)
    The concept "Russia" can be used in two senses - a country (ie, a territory), or a state (which can be slave-owning, feudal, capitalist, etc.).

    It is quite obvious that a certain “great Russia” is not identical with a socialist federal state, which means that Samsonov has again made a substitution of concepts.

    culminated in the complete defeat of Russia-USSR and the complete surrender of most of the countries of socialism
    There was no war, there was no defeat of the USSR either, and the socialist countries did not capitulate to anyone (counter-revolution with the support of the population is not the surrender of a country or state).

    Those. Samsonov again replaced concepts.

    The essence of the history of XX - beginning of XXI centuries. in the crisis of capitalism, the entire Western (biblical) project as a whole. The Western project is based on an unfair concept. The West lives only through constant expansion, capture and robbery
    1 If the abstraction called by Samson's "Western project" is identical to the abstraction called by Samson's "Biblical project", then it is quite obvious that Samson's "great Russia" has been a part of the "Western project" since the adoption of Christianity in 988 (i.e. . again we have a substitution of concepts in the form of opposing what cannot be opposed).

    2 States become empires exclusively through constant expansion and seizure of foreign territories for the purpose of plunder, and Samson's "great Russia" was an empire (ie, again we have a substitution of concepts in the form of opposition that cannot be opposed).

    To prevent disintegration, the masters of the West, the global mafia that had formed by that time (the financial international, the golden elite, the world behind the scenes, etc.)
    Capitalism is a competitive and highly individualistic system, ultimately leading to absolute monopoly.

    Accordingly, there can be no question of any financial international, world government and other nonsense - they are impossible due to the fact that both the conditional Rothschild and the conditional Morgan will never obey each other and will squabble among themselves until "until there will be only one "(ie Samsonov again substitutes concepts - this time by inventing an enemy that does not exist).

    destroy the millennial geopolitical adversary of the West
    Geopolitics is a concept that uses data from physical and economic geography to justify the seizure of foreign territories.

    Accordingly, if "great Russia" was a geopolitical enemy of a certain West, then ...

    Then, on the ruins of the old world, they planned to create a “new world order” - a sustainable non-slavery civilization
    Feudalism replaced the slave system and capitalism replaced feudalism only because it was economically progressive and profitable.

    So from what hangover would the capitalists begin to create a kind of non-slave civilization and thereby lose their profits?

    There is no desire to disassemble the rest of the nonsense.

    I will only add that the number of approving comments on the Samson text clearly indicates that there is nothing surprising in the breakdown of the socialist system, the destruction of the USSR and the restoration of capitalism.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 8 December 2018 09: 33
      +3
      I have always said (and continue to say) that without having defined the "concepts", it is not possible to determine the causes, and without determining the causes, it is impossible to develop methods. However, the definition of the original "concepts" must be honest, and not end with their substitution. Unfortunately, almost always, when you begin to honestly define the "concepts" digging into the initial reasons, then it comes out that you yourself would not want to listen, and even more so for someone on the side, therefore they are always replaced or "lowered" into to please the moment or the audience. Hence the constant trampling of Russia in one place and her advance on the same rake.
      1. Claymore
        Claymore 8 December 2018 16: 56
        0
        Quote: Snail N9
        Hence the constant treading of Russia

        This is not a stomp, but a conflict of interest in which the class of private owners wins.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 9 December 2018 11: 16
          0
          This is true-private property, selfish vein will always prevail in a person, hence the collapse of the USSR and the "socialist camp". The task of the state is to fully support the class of private owners to make their life comfortable, to do everything possible so that this class develops harmoniously, that is, to simplify the life of private owners in every possible way. However, the state does the opposite, and in this it is facilitated, firstly, by the presence of a large number of social dependents who need to be "fed", and secondly, by the paradigm of capitalism that does not tolerate competitors - lobbying in the power structures of certain capitalist groups and individuals.
          1. Claymore
            Claymore 9 December 2018 14: 36
            +1
            Quote: Snail N9
            It's right
            I'm about a friend.

            "Trampling" is a subjective one-sided assessment of what is happening (for me, subjectively, there is no trampling, but generally degradation).

            But it is worth looking at the situation from class perspectives, it becomes clear that trampling it looks only in the understanding of the small and middle bourgeoisie, as well as working people, while for the bourgeoisie as a whole, and especially for big capital, the situation is not a stomp in place, but very progress.

            a private, selfish streak will always prevail in a person, hence the collapse of the USSR and the "socialist camp"
            This is solved by creating conditions of existence in which collective activity becomes more profitable than private ownership (the experience of the USSR of the 18th - 55th years).

            The task of the state to fully support the class of private owners
            This is the task of the modern capitalist state.

            However, the state does the opposite.
            No, it does just that - it works in the interests of private owners (primarily large).

            However, the flip side of this work is the infringement of the interests of other strata of the bourgeois class, as well as of the interests of the working people, the cause of which is a conflict of interests, which is an insurmountable contradiction.
          2. Alexander Ra
            Alexander Ra 9 December 2018 15: 38
            0
            Quote: Snail N9
            selfish streak will always prevail in man

            Wrong. The primacy of the whole over parts is characteristic of all living things, because there are such organisms as an individual, family, people. . Liberal "atomization" of the people was transferred to a substrate for its assimilation (in the biol. Sense). A medieval proverb - “Fat is made from cattle, money is made from people.”
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2018 11: 27
      +3
      Quote: Claymore
      If interstate competition, figuratively called the "cold war", could be called a world war in the literal sense,

      there are real awards, and the recipients of these awards: medals for victory in the Cold War -
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 8 December 2018 11: 46
        +2
        Quote: aybolyt678
        there are real awards, and the recipients of these awards: medals for victory in the Cold War -

        It seems one of the recipients-Gorbachev? Appreciated his merits.
      2. Claymore
        Claymore 8 December 2018 15: 47
        0
        Quote: aybolyt678
        there are real rewards, and recipients of these rewards: medals for victory in the cold war
        And?

        You did not forget to look at their statute? lol
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2018 11: 37
      +1
      Quote: Claymore
      Accordingly, there can be no talk of any financial international, world government and other nonsense - they are impossible due to the fact that both the conditional Rothschild and the conditional Morgan will never obey each other and will squabble among themselves until "until there will be only one "

      here you gave a weak spot. A specific Rothschild with specific Morgans and Goldbergs will always become allies in front of a particular social SYSTEM threatening them. This system was a pyramid in basis of which was only one person - Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin!
      1. Claymore
        Claymore 8 December 2018 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: aybolyt678
        A specific Rothschild with specific Morgans and Goldbergs will always become allies in front of a specific social SYSTEM threatening them
        At you gave slack, could not resist and tried again to pull the owl on the globe. laughing

        Samsonov, after all, does not write about allies in the class war against a particular social system, but about a certain global and unified the mafia, which for thousands of years (the biblical project) has been trying (and unsuccessfully - despite the roots of Christianity in Russia) to crush everything and everything under itself, creating a kind of slave system that it itself destroyed for some reason (Samsonov has a very inconsistent mafia ...)

        And the mafia, in modern language, is a criminality, i.e. a conglomerate of organized crime groups (Tombovskys + Solntsevskys + Izmailovskys + ...), who seem to live by the same concepts, but at the first opportunity they are ready to cut each other's throats, as a result of which they cannot be single.

        This system was a pyramid at the base of which there was only one person - Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin!
        If the concrete social system of the USSR is presented in the form of a pyramid, then it will be based on the read of Marx with Engels Lenin, and not Stalin.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 8 December 2018 17: 27
          +1
          Quote: Claymore
          At you gave slack, could not resist and tried again to pull the owl on the globe. laughing

          I will not argue, you can smile further ... only I am not discussing with Samsonov. I join you, in terminology you need to be more precise in order to avoid discrepancies.
          Quote: Claymore
          If the concrete social system of the USSR is presented in the form of a pyramid, then it will be based on the read of Marx with Engels Lenin, and not Stalin.

          under the Lenin’s social pyramid was built anew, and based on a dream, Lenin masterly used every opportunity to strengthen statehood ... But do you know what year he died? But Stalin created everything that frightened modern capitalists. And by the way, they still scare me.
          why Samsonov calls the financial structures governing the world the mafia, I’ll try to explain: do you know what the evolution of power is? I will explain. Power has a downside; it is a responsibility. The more power the more responsibility. And she wants less. The evolution of power is an example of an increase in power with a decrease in responsibility. Here is an example - in a primitive human flock the leader has a personal responsibility, in a tribe this responsibility is divided between the leader and the shaman, in ancient Athens, revolutionary responsibility is already transferred to the people who vote. In the modern structure of the state, responsibility is divided between the president, the Duma, the government and the people who elect them. But! I think that by analogy with the natural world, where there are various types of camouflage, real power has an invisible component, very well camouflaged, which we can only guess about. It is she who is called either the world government or the mafia; for her, the term really does not yet exist for her. But I think that Putin, Nabiulin, Zhirinovsky and others ... these are only the external details of that power
          1. Claymore
            Claymore 8 December 2018 18: 23
            0
            Quote: aybolyt678
            But do you know what year he died?
            I suspect that after the formation of a federal socialist state. lol

            But Stalin created everything that frightened modern capitalists. And by the way, they still scare
            What exactly, in what period and how did he create?

            Power has a downside; it is a responsibility. The more power the more responsibility.
            Power has the ability to impose its will - therefore, the more power, the less responsibility.

            But! I think that by analogy with the natural world, where there are various types of camouflage, real power has an invisible component
            And what happens is unreal power? laughing

            real power has an invisible component, very well camouflaged, which we can only guess
            Stop producing unnecessary entities.

            A disguised boss, requiring subordinates to execute their orders, will be sent by them, because they do not recognize him as the boss (i.e., power cannot be exercised until he manifests himself).

            It is she who is called either the world government or the mafia; in reality for her there is no term
            Personalize the abstraction "global mafia", and you will immediately have not only a term, but also a reason to laugh at yourself.
    4. Alexander Ra
      Alexander Ra 8 December 2018 13: 29
      +2
      Casuistry as a crowbar (a serious tool), you can crumble a lot and again the hedgehog in the fog. Who would show a master class with a pencil, trowel, soldering iron.
      Quote: Claymore
      Feudalism replaced the slave system and capitalism replaced feudalism only because it was economically progressive and profitable.

      You should follow: “slaveholding”, “feudalism”, “capitalism” - what progress, if the essence of behavior is the same - predation and parasitism?
      1. Claymore
        Claymore 8 December 2018 16: 26
        0
        Quote: Alexander Ra
        what progress, if the essence of behavior is the same - predation and parasitism?
        Obvious - in the form of exploitation.

        Economic coercion, characteristic of capitalism, has a greater economic effect than
        silovoge coercion, characteristic of the slave system (+ for the exploited it is more preferable).
  11. wooja
    wooja 8 December 2018 09: 06
    -5
    The author says the right thing, only his panicky-style style causes irritation. It seems that the author considers readers to be babies and idiots. It seems that the author successfully collaborated with Jehovah's Witnesses, such generally correct articles do great harm to real patriotism, and destroy the sprouts of sanity and honesty ... and somehow you start to think about special departments and shootings of alarmists ....
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2018 11: 39
      -2
      Quote: wooja
      and somehow it's better to start thinking about special departments and shootings of alarmists ....

      maybe this is what the author seeks?
    2. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 13: 07
      -4
      I always said that people, even if they don’t understand something, feel great. He feels a catch in the articles of Alexander Samsonov, but the cons have not yet been returned to the articles. Without knowing it, the author in his demagogic maxims gets on one level with his own ideological enemies, successfully playing along with them.
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 December 2018 09: 09
    -12
    As the Russian people were sentenced to destruction

    The author has a huge straight and fat minus. fool stop
    The idiot who could do this has not yet been born.
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 13: 53
      -3
      .
      Quote: Ros 56
      The one who could do this has not yet been born.

      "And know
      -that Russian is not defeated,
      not born yet
      who can break it "
      (c) P. Plamenev
      hi
  13. Nonna
    Nonna 8 December 2018 09: 16
    -1
    I respect the Author - Samsonov Alexander. We still have real Russian patriots. The request to write about the current government in more detail and most importantly - what to do, forms of struggle. Navalny has already suggested how to fight the election with unity. The people finally finally received his sight and finally understood - the enemy within the country. Liberal fascists seized power and destroy Russia.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 December 2018 09: 26
      -2
      Navalny proposed an alternative program for the development of the country? )) I, for some reason, have not seen her anywhere.
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 10: 30
        -5
        But you do not use drugs. laughing So you are not visible to all the rightness, width and depth. Here you also cannot collect money from schoolchildren for holidays in Luxembourg. laughing But Navalny-he can and even can. laughing
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 8 December 2018 09: 47
      -6
      Quote: Nonna
      Please write about the current government in more detail

      There is a book "The Garden" grows by itself? .. "There is a detailed description of the government and what to do, the same: http://files.kob.su/books/dotu/07_sotsiolog/00_garden-grows_itself/20090613_tek_moment0690.rar
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 8 December 2018 16: 37
        +3
        Yes, that's right: to unite around the "popularly elected leader" and .... endure, endure ... and his lads will settle everything ..... winked
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 8 December 2018 16: 56
          -2
          Quote: Snail N9
          Yes, that's right: to unite around the "popularly elected leader" and .... endure, endure ... and his lads will settle everything ..... winked

          The reason is not that one has everyone, but because everyone has one.

          People, because of their laziness, have thrown off all responsibility for their coexistence on one and now they are not happy with it, but they do not want to take responsibility, it is easier to blame someone for their troubles than to blame themselves.

          In the same way they act in the issue of adoption of the Laws. It's easier to blame the one who signs them than those who accept them. And I’m sculpting minuses not because I’m wrong, but because I tell them about it.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 December 2018 11: 54
      +4
      Quote: Nonna
      Navalny has already suggested how to fight the election with unity.

      bulk does not offer a system how to live on. This is the problem that there is no leader, there is no ideology uniting the people. Patriotism (love for one’s country) cannot be replaced by love for Toyota (comfort)
  14. tanit
    tanit 8 December 2018 10: 26
    +2
    In general, based on the articles of A. Samsonov in different sections of the VO website, we can conclude: the most fierce and terrible enemies ruled Hyperborea and Vedic Russia. Nothing remained of these "countries" except for the narcotic, that is, of course, sacred visions. belay
    And all the other enemies did not cope with the tasks. laughing
    1. Corn
      Corn 8 December 2018 10: 46
      -7
      This article (and the work of the author as a whole) is another manifestation of the fact that illusion is more important to people than reality.
      They fantasized a wonderful USSR where the sky was bluer, the grass was greener and the girls were more beautiful, they spiced it up with fables about "Tsarist Russia We Lost" and now suffer from phantom pains, writing such opuses in the Medinsky style.
      For some reason, many people do not particularly like the birth rate, while no one can name a single developed country with a positive natural demography ....
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 December 2018 12: 52
        +1
        Israel. Three children on average per family. States - 2,75.
        1. Corn
          Corn 8 December 2018 13: 06
          +2
          Israel - an increase of 1.5-2% per year, taking into account migration.
          USA - an increase of ~ 1%, and also mainly due to migration, blacks and Latinos.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 December 2018 00: 54
            0
            Latinos - there is such a thing. The migration of blacks is not particularly accepted. If you do not take into account that part of the Latinos are blacks
        2. tanit
          tanit 8 December 2018 13: 40
          0
          laughing
          Israel. Three children on average per family. States - 2,75.
          Oh ... And in Egypt, probably less? And Ethiopia, so it doesn’t die out of hunger either. laughing
          Ahem ... M-Freemasonry, is it contagious? I think I got infected ... belay
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 December 2018 00: 53
            -1
            We are talking about developed countries))
      2. Alexander Ra
        Alexander Ra 8 December 2018 13: 47
        +3
        1. Without touching RI and the “wonderful USSR”, it should be noted that the liberal Russian Federation is a dangerous step down after them.
        2. "Developed" countries degenerate, what is surprising if someone does not want to become such degenerates?
        1. Corn
          Corn 8 December 2018 14: 17
          +2
          I won’t even paint why obscurantism is bad, you’ve already decided everything for yourself
          Quote: Alexander Ra
          if someone does not want to become the same geeks

          It's amazing that you want to use the fruits of their scientific and intellectual achievements, you also want to use the Internet, modern technology, high-quality medicine, but you don’t want to become like those who did it all?
          I don’t argue, there are people in the country who dream of living in a concentration camp or in North Korea, but how many are you like? 1-2% or less. And how many are those who do not watch TV? The question is rhetorical.
          Only one thing is pleasing, the marginals who prefer to live according to animal laws under the strict guidance of the next dictator are becoming less and less every year, the majority of young people are much smarter than their parents.
          1. Alexander Ra
            Alexander Ra 8 December 2018 20: 02
            +3
            Quote: Corn
            to become like those who have summoned all this do not want?

            "... created all this" - the authors of 80% of discoveries and inventions are Slavs.
            Modern globalist civilization is a dead end branch of development. 1) Imbalance in the Biosphere - Man system. 2) If at the beginning of the 20s of the 20th century the white population of the planet was 6,8%, today it is XNUMX% of all humanity. If this does not mean anything, then continue to admire the brightly decorated hearse. Don't you find some similarities between the actions of pleasures, "benefits" and drugs? Leonardo called some “fillers of need” and “producers of shit,” we would have to disconnect from the euro-hearse train and start living our own minds. As for marginals - sort this term out - we are more marginal today than North Koreans.
  15. smaug78
    smaug78 8 December 2018 10: 34
    -3
    Samsonov Zhydarius forgot. And so savory
  16. midshipman
    midshipman 8 December 2018 10: 34
    +4
    Thank you tagged and drunk for such things. God sees, they are still waiting for punishment for their deeds. Destroyed such a state.
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 13: 10
      +3
      Khrushchev forgot, it all began with him, if it had not been for Brezhnev, Gorbachev, perhaps, would not have had to take on the titanic work of destroying the USSR, most likely he would have immediately gone to a pizza advertisement from a combine.
    2. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 14: 14
      -5
      Quote: midshipman
      Destroyed such a state.

      Dear Yuri Grigoryevich. Your pain is clear. But, put your hand on your heart, and say -Do you want a civil war? The question is stupid, I realize.
  17. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 8 December 2018 10: 35
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Samsonov
    Since 1991, the peoples of Russia have fallen under the rule of the global mafia and its puppet marionettes, the colonial administration. The genocide of the Russian people and other indigenous peoples of the Russian civilization began:
    Of course, the author is right, what is not, but I would move the border from 1991 to 1917 a year away - judging by what happened to the Russian and other peoples of the former Russian Empire, with their culture, religion in the first decades of early Bolshevism so it will be more correct and accurate (national communism in our country was built much later precisely because of the departure from the original attitudes of the Bolsheviks-internationalists during the Second World War).
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 13: 12
      -3
      Oh, and the monarchists arrived - now everything is assembled. Bust after this article there is not pacified again?
  18. Corn
    Corn 8 December 2018 10: 36
    -5
    Is it generally normal that a website that positions itself as an adequate media publishes such a complete incompetent "creativity" from adherents of conspiracy theory?
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 8 December 2018 13: 15
      -2
      For VO this is normal, regularly add oil to the fire. The audience is expanding very well, not only Russophiles and Russophobes come together, but also sectarians of all stripes: neopagans, Kobovites, roloshniks, monarchists - advertising is spinning, laveha is muddling.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 13: 36
        +3
        Quote: Navigator Basov
        For VO this is normal, regularly add oil to the fire.

        And who is stopping you from publishing your opinion?
    2. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 14: 17
      -2
      :
      Quote: Corn
      Is it generally normal that a website that positions itself as an adequate media publishes such a complete incompetent "creativity" from adherents of conspiracy theory?

      Not okay. But - "this is the Spanish infantry" (cross out) Samsonov. Be patient. request
      Oh .... I definitely infected with Freemasonry ....: belay
  19. let's say
    let's say 8 December 2018 11: 13
    +3
    I support the author. I recommend looking at the Sovetsky YouTube channel about the consequences of the third world.
  20. alauda1038
    alauda1038 8 December 2018 11: 16
    +7
    That's right, now on the territory of Russia there was a replacement of Russian Vanka and Masha with Gaster mahmud, isloma and petro from sumeria, add their litter and small ones and we will get about 15 million parasites of Russophobes whom our government loves so well and apparently GDP personally
  21. security guard
    security guard 8 December 2018 11: 37
    +1
    the communists, then the Bolsheviks, immediately began to beat out benefits for themselves. they lived in a parallel reality. this led to the collapse of their party and country. now in their footsteps, more insolently, having completely missed the shores, are acting edros (most of the former "party"). history repeats itself
    1. Corn
      Corn 8 December 2018 11: 47
      +8
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 13: 49
        0
        FOR CORN
        Beautiful table. I believe you. And I believe that there are no tanks in Algeria (from your words). Yeah. laughing You always write the truth. laughing
    2. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 14: 24
      0
      Quote: wachmann
      communists, then still, the Bolsheviks

      Ahem ... And the Mensheviks — who were they, hesitate to ask?
      1. security guard
        security guard 9 December 2018 00: 37
        0
        well, also from that clip, together with the anarchists and other "Narodnaya Volya" members.
        it's just that no one was so promoting on the oppression of the tsarism and right there: commander's (such as "akhitserskie") toilets, orderlies, orderlies, dining rooms, rations, field wives ...
  22. Fedor1
    Fedor1 8 December 2018 11: 47
    0
    The people themselves make their choice, and will be worthy of what is worthy.
  23. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 8 December 2018 12: 08
    -1
    Samsonov from without an ethnic group, hyperborea, etc. ..... strange ...... that is why this opus is for?
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 14: 22
      -3
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Samsonov from without an ethnic group, hyperborea, etc. ..... strange ...... that is why this opus is for?

      Yes, and "epic" and all other "nyama" have a place to be. You. apparently did not read carefully. belay There, between the lines, and so it goes through. repeat
      But what Samsonov’s wisdom consists of is not given to a mere mortal. request
  24. Force multiplier
    Force multiplier 8 December 2018 12: 11
    -3
    The Soviet project is not Russian, it is absolutely "systemic" and was not antagonistic to the existing economic system and the system of international relations. So the starting point is not 1991, but 1917. But Russia has a chance for rebirth, returning to Odin, and thus to make and lead a real revolution, which the world has not seen for thousands of years
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 December 2018 13: 06
      +2
      Russia to Odin? Is that in Valhalla, with Thor and Locke and the Vikings (slain)?
      Che then not to the Buddha, for example?
    2. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 13: 42
      0
      Quote: Force Multiplier
      returning to Odin

      Ahem ... Why or to whom ?!
      Yes ... Force Multiplayer is great ..
      And as much port as He
      I probably won’t drink ...
      belay
  25. Antares
    Antares 8 December 2018 14: 01
    -1
    The Western project is based on an unfair concept. The West lives only due to constant expansion, capture and robbery. This is a vampire world, feeding on alien energy and resources, killing neighboring civilizations,

    in nature there is no "justice" and injustice .. There is a race to survive. And nature does not care for each individual .. It operates with whole species and systems.
    And the fact that the author wrote an "unfair concept" is the usual description of survival, expansion, evolution "in breadth", the methods of humanity, taking energy from the external environment and, as a result, the struggle for energy within human society / systems ..
    There are no "fair concepts!" because of the animal nature of man. Inside, each has its own justice (survived means justly, others did not survive, but you survived rightly) animal. We are generally primates under a thin film of civilization ... we have the same methods (genocide of competitors, for example - all sorts of Neanderthals there).
    The exaltation of one (Russia / Red Project / RI / superethnos) leads to the construction of a black and white look. It is good, and it is bad. Bad won ..
    Nature doesn’t care about such insinuations .. The evolution of systems, their competition, laws ... it's all devoid of human emotions.
    And Samsonovo has one poor Russia and around it hordes of vicious enemies, every second and millennia weave against it the threads of a conspiracy. The whole world revolves only around one thought-HOW TO ROBBER RUSSIA ..
    I’m afraid in reality I’ll have to upset the author, now it’s easier to buy, not to fight ....
    mythical enemies outside and inside are needed only for "rallying" around something or someone ...
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 16: 51
      -1
      Ahem ... Antares, and you do not consider your president as a person? Peter Alekseevich? SBU is crying for you
      . Can I help the SBU?
      1. Antares
        Antares 8 December 2018 20: 21
        0
        Quote: tanit
        Ahem ... Antares, and you do not consider your president as a person? Peter Alekseevich? SBU is crying for you
        . Can I help the SBU?

        in VO and so there is a fan club of the Ukrainian president. I am not a member of it. In 2014 I did not even vote for him. And now I won’t.
        In my comment there is not a word about him. What can I say about him, he is also a partner, investor, the best choice of the Ukrainian people ....
        it's all offtopic, I personally talked about entropy and systems. I didn’t touch your personal fantasies about presidents.
        are you in the SBU in the state? lol
        interesting threats we have in VO ... what
  26. 123456789
    123456789 8 December 2018 14: 04
    +1
    - Everything secret will become apparent, nothing will be left without retaliation (Quidquid latet apparebit, Nil inultum remanebit).
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 16: 53
      -2
      The crystal cannot be determined either with its gender. Are you talking about the secret ... laughing
      1. Antares
        Antares 8 December 2018 20: 25
        +1
        Quote: tanit
        The crystal cannot be determined either with its gender. Are you talking about the secret ... laughing

        Does this have something to do with the topic or in my comment?
        Or is conspiracy science stronger than physics?
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    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 8 December 2018 16: 10
      +1
      Meehan all alive ... and more!
  28. seacap
    seacap 8 December 2018 15: 11
    +4
    Quote: aybolyt678
    After all, almost all deputies and presidents promise to raise pensions and defeat unemployment? So that at any time of service an elected person could be asked a question - but what about the promises ???

    For starters, colonial administration, i.e. our bureaucrats, and those who grabbed a large chunk, successfully develops national property, representing abroad the achievements and riches of our country and NX in the form of yachts and palaces, calling themselves a businessman and an oligarch, should voluntarily, which is very doubtful, or by force to become national and work in and on their own country and people, and not serve the interests of the overseas metropolis, solving the problems of their economy and ensuring their reform and development at our expense.
  29. seacap
    seacap 8 December 2018 15: 19
    +5
    Quote: Patriarch
    Think and analyze .. There is a wave of hatred and Russophobia

    And what to do if those in power who killed and betrayed their homeland and people, that with their vague foreign policy and total betrayal of their allies, surrendering their interests to the enemy, turned a great country, their people with a great history into a "doormat" about which all and sundry, even the most miserable "wipe their feet" without any consequences for themselves, only with a "quiet whine" (so that the "owner" does not hear) from behind the door.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 9 December 2018 12: 41
      +4
      Almost in the subject: the corrupt human rights activist Lyudmila Alekseeva has calmed down, or rather, had fun (according to her). All "our" elite and its sponsor - the West - have already expressed their condolences.
  30. akula
    akula 8 December 2018 15: 42
    +5
    Quote: tanit
    !
    Quote: Nick_R
    I agree, you read such articles and you begin to understand where convinced reptilian fans come from.

    Are you a Nazi? belay laughing

    Olgovich is a Troll, everything turns upside down, and obviously for money, and you Vadik is a victim of propaganda, learn history, then write comments, it is disgusting to read such illiterate judgments and it's useless to argue with you, as you know, they don't argue with fools.
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 17: 18
      0
      In that case, he’s right ..
      1. tanit
        tanit 8 December 2018 17: 19
        +1
        he is right. humble yourself.
  31. Eirik Krause
    Eirik Krause 8 December 2018 15: 56
    -2
    The Soviet elite did not betray anyone, it was originally an anti-Russian project to create Israel in Russia’s place!
    1. tanit
      tanit 8 December 2018 17: 21
      0
      The Soviet elite did not betray anyone, it was originally an anti-Russian project to create Israel in Russia!

      Well, yes ... What smoked?
  32. kalibr
    kalibr 8 December 2018 17: 14
    -4
    Quote: Claymore
    I will only add that the number of approving comments on the Samson text clearly indicates that there is nothing surprising in the breakdown of the socialist system, the destruction of the USSR and the restoration of capitalism.

    Harasho said, sovsem well, you will be a horse!
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  34. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 December 2018 18: 17
    +5
    From the last
    This time the United Russia party Nikolai Govorin (Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Health Protection) came up with another "caring" initiative.

    According to him, temporary disability is unfairly compensated by all working citizens. In other words, the parliamentarians had the idea to punish the ruble for the Russians because they do not comply with the recommendations of the doctors received after passing the medical examination, writes U74.ru. 4

    Therefore, it is proposed to cancel the total payment for "sick leave", and to pay compensation only to the elite. Govorin is sure that Russians are getting sick due to the fact that they do not pay due attention to their health, despite the fact that the state has created the necessary conditions for them by organizing free medical examination. "Employees should use this opportunity to the fullest. If this does not happen, this is already their personal problem, and not a matter of concern for employing organizations and the FSS," the politician said.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 11 December 2018 17: 28
      +1
      Thin settings of a society. I get the impression that Russia is about to glue flippers. And the deputies as horse-draggers actively help this. Just stunning .... fools.
  35. SHAH
    SHAH 8 December 2018 19: 13
    +7
    If you are not a fool and do not listen to Kiselev, Soloviev, Brilev and K *, but look soberly
    where did Russia and its peoples find themselves after the December 1991 coup, and the results of the 26 years of liberal Zionist rule. , the author is more than right. Genocide is on and a little more Russian people may not exist.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 9 December 2018 12: 36
      +3
      And now we are not a people, but a population that actively or passively votes for the power of their killers, with a few exceptions.
    2. Former gasman
      Former gasman 10 December 2018 13: 41
      0
      But is SHAH a Russian word?
  36. Forestol
    Forestol 8 December 2018 19: 22
    +5
    Unfortunately, all this is like throwing beads in front of pigs (I apologize in advance to these noble animals that have been reduced to mud by a man). Most spit on spirituality, considering it to be the lot of priests, on statehood, until circumstances pressed ... Consumer society, social Darwinism, corruption in everything, all this is homo sapiens for 5800 years, and little is changing. Unfortunately, there are no differences from the Roman plebeians and the current passenger of the Moscow-Petushki train, except for the technological structure. But! All these skeptical faces grinning at social justice will soon, very soon receive a new Internet religion, a new God, from the Web. Or, as now, the universal Devil, giving anyone who wants to virtually sin by any sin without the threat of moral suffering. And nearby, in the Islamic world, the number of radicals, opponents of the current world order, is growing. So this vile world is not so stable, the whole thing is when the nations wake up.
    1. Former gasman
      Former gasman 10 December 2018 13: 40
      0
      So you also live on the net. The new god has already found you.
  37. Sergei75
    Sergei75 8 December 2018 19: 32
    +3
    We were seduced by a freebie ...
  38. A.
    A. 8 December 2018 21: 07
    +6
    Quote: Was Mammoth
    Quote: Olgovich
    The achievements were especially impressive:

    I remember coupons for vodka, even for meat, and even under Gorbachev. Ah, here are the cowards? Previously, every woman was a needlewoman. Bullshit is your photo.
    Unfortunately, only in fairy tales does good always triumph over evil. In life, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Chubais ... are floating up. And meanness, meanness, betrayal take over.

    And also Putin, Fursenki, Livanov, Gref, Medvedev, Kadrina, Dvorkovichi, Shuvalov and their aligarchic piers.
    1. glavserb
      glavserb 10 December 2018 02: 38
      +4
      But I was impressed when Stalin thrice lowered the prices of all goods in the USSR ... after the Victory over Hitler and samurai!
  39. Brigadier
    Brigadier 9 December 2018 00: 30
    +2
    "A part of the nomenklatura rotted away, wished to reach an agreement with the West, privatize socialist (popular) property and become “new masters” in the Soviet republics."

    Then it was just a part... TODAY - at least 90% ... request
  40. wax
    wax 9 December 2018 11: 53
    +3
    Well done, Samsonov!
  41. NordUral
    NordUral 9 December 2018 12: 32
    +4
    Everything is said! It's time to turn on the brain.
  42. brum
    brum 9 December 2018 12: 53
    -1
    it's not even "grass" ... the author is clearly sitting on something heavy .. the question is - why is it published ???
  43. Hypersound
    Hypersound 9 December 2018 16: 27
    +3
    I will only add that the top of "great Russia" is exactly the same mafia as the western one. 2 mafia gangs are fighting for human resources, that's all
  44. Svyatoslav Khorobry
    Svyatoslav Khorobry 9 December 2018 18: 59
    +3
    Today, in the richest country in the world with its natural resources, for the most part, the organizedly dying out Russian people live on the verge of poverty and survival. This is the result of the total power in Russia of secret Zionists, which stubbornly hide behind the masks of Russian surnames. Today a secret dictatorship of secret "Khazars" has been established in Russia; secret - because about 95% of Russians do not know about it yet; secret "Khazars" hide behind masks of Russian surnames. They take revenge on the Russian goyim for the defeated Judean Khazaria in the 9th century, which was in the lower reaches of the Volga with the capital Itil ...
    1. Former gasman
      Former gasman 10 December 2018 13: 37
      +1
      The Jews of Christ escorted them to Calvary with stones.
  45. 1skuns1
    1skuns1 9 December 2018 21: 08
    +1
    Russia as a State exists ... YES ... and will exist ..... that's just ... how many Russians are in the country now, and how many more will die out? ... (
  46. glavserb
    glavserb 10 December 2018 01: 49
    -1
    Ha ha ha, have you already liberated Kvachkova from the TRIPLE conclusion ... about which EVERYONE FORGOTS - who is rotting alive on the bunk of an innocent?
    And not ashamed of you all, pseudo-Russian partriots? After all, all of you have been here for a long time Slaves Lamps, only the air shaking and rabid Claudia fuck ...
  47. KURT330
    KURT330 10 December 2018 08: 36
    -5
    Yeah .. you can’t say anything ..
  48. Larum
    Larum 10 December 2018 10: 16
    -1
    Blah blah blah and pathetic. Something like this has been here more than once.
    It’s better to go to Goblin / Puchkov and listen to specifics on the same topic.
  49. Maverick1812
    Maverick1812 10 December 2018 13: 22
    +1
    I fully support this point of view! I just agree with her and that's it! Two reasons: a decrease in population during the reign of the "great and terrible" and the Central Bank JSC as a branch of the Federal Reserve System of the Main Bourgeoisie (again, without changes and nationalizations during the reign of the main country of all Russia). Cartoons with rockets, cutting budget money for olympulki and mondialki me for urya-i-i-i, do not inspire ...
  50. Former gasman
    Former gasman 10 December 2018 13: 34
    -4
    What kind of test work is it from which institute? I would argue with the author, but no time. Rejoice the author that you are allowed to chat and think. In the USSR, you would not even have a cell phone. Do you know when the serfdom was abolished in Russia? time in the West has not been free labor for a long time, so first study medieval history and then talk ..