Spain joins the development of a future European aircraft

Spain plans to join the Franco-German project to develop a promising European 21 fighter of the 20th century, better known as the “New Generation Weapon System” (NGWS), according to TSAMTO.

The Spanish defense ministry says that Margarita Robles, the country's defense minister, has already sent official notice of Spain’s desire to participate in the design of a European fighter, Florence Parley and Ursula von der Lyayen, the French and German defense ministers. Spain proposes to invest in the project in the next two years 25 million euros. It is assumed that the official signing of the contract will take place in January 2019.

Developed by France and Germany, the NGWS is a promising new generation fighter created to replace, starting in 2040, the Typhoon aircraft of the Eurofighter and Rafale consortium of Dassault Aviation. As conceived by the designers, the new aircraft must be a manned fighter using a swarm of unmanned aerial vehicles, which will carry both armament and means of detection, for solving combat missions. In addition, it is assumed that the NGWS will be integrated with the medium-range shock drone of the long flight duration FCAS (Future Combat Air System).

The developers plan to create a demonstrator of the fighter concept by 2025, a prototype model by the 2030 year. The new fighter should be installed in 2040-2045.

Comments

[Sergey39]

Something tells me that they are late. Spain will not speed up the process.

[Sleeping]

Quote: Sergey39

Something tells me that they are late. Spain will not speed up the process.

At least the terms are realistic, not like Rogozin’s example.

[Sergey39]

Well, yes, 40-45gg. the term is real, it is possible and more realistic to do, for example, 50-60gg. And what does Rogozin have to do with it ?.

[arhPavel]

At least the terms are realistic, not like Rogozin’s example.

Mm .. yes you are an esthete.
25 million euros, in development until 2040 ... Hmm ..
This is 1.19 million euros per year. Almost a hundredth a month. It seems to me that they won't even cover utility bills with this.
And if for 2 years and 25 million, then the deadlines are generally not optimistic even once.
And if you consider that it’s just the price for a finished, manufactured device such as Eurofighter, for example, passes 100 million euros ...

... Rogozin hiccuped

[Sleeping]

Quote: arhPavel

Mm .. yes you are an esthete

Do you know the meaning of aesthetics?

[arhPavel]

Do you know the meaning of aesthetics?

Esthete is a connoisseur of graceful, beautiful.
I called you an estot, I highlighted the subtlety and grace of your joke about the timeline. And below I described why.
As they say in some circles, "you are typing for Rogozin"
Do not you understand?

[dr.star75]

Well that’s it! The arctic fox of Spain. Now the vests will be blown out and they will begin to smash everything! A plane to them, what are you thinking!

[gridasov]

And when money was the basis for brilliant ideas？ Or that fantastic forms of the airframe can give the opportunity to fly and maneuver at hyper speeds. All guidelines for American prototypes. And the task is not only to keep up, but to create something new and effective is unlikely

[g1washntwn]

Something thinly voiced requirements look at this NGWS, on the strength of the generation 5+. The Americans do not hesitate to start ringing about the 6th. How would the Europroject come to 2040 with a "bicycle".

[shubin]

25 lemons - go nuts! One flap is not enough. Lords go to the development!

[Key 32]

Three women .. women are going to develop a promising aircraft ..

[den3080]

3 aunts will have a universal slicer, the Spaniards will add a nozzle for quick, jewelry cutting of jamon. Say no contribution?

[Key 32]

well, taking into account the amount, yes, you get a maximum mixer

[shubin]

Now, if the Italian still tightens, then they will be brought to the level of the food processor for sure!

[Key 32]

Well, actually, looking at the pictures from some Euro-summit of defense ministers, the most formidable thing that comes to mind is a circle of sewing and cutting ..

[Sleeping]

Quote: shubin

Now, if the Italian still tightens, then they will be brought to the level of the food processor for sure!

In vain you are, the Italians have good techies

[Pathos]

So, after assembly, they will process it with a file More files for files

[Hole puncher]

An empty undertaking. According to the experience of eurofighter, a predicted squabble over the size of the contribution to the project of each side, delaying the deadlines because the parliament suddenly cut, etc.

[HMR333]

Since when is Spain an expert in the field of aviation? maybe I missed what they had been doing before airplanes?

[HMR333]

These I do not take into account CASA C-212 Aviocar
CASA C-295
HOUSE CN-235
COLYAER Mascato S100
and military and technological and not old trucks?

[Kawado]

Rafal and Eurofighter are quite good companies, they may well develop something decent, unless of course there is nowhere to put money, because in any case you will have to take LoHid Martin.
Yes, and in 40-45gg it is not clear what will be at all, will airplanes be needed if the surface is crammed with lasers and hypersonic air defense / missile defense missiles?

[kaschey]

"Spain proposes to invest 25 million euros in the project over the next two years."
Have the Spaniards got extra money from our tourists?

[nikolas 83]

By the year 45, either the donkey will die, or the padishahs. The Americans will not allow them to do this. They suck out f35 and cannot refuse, they will find a council.

[Tarhan]

No. It is likely that they will not succeed. But why such neglect and imposingness.
Su-57 did not go into series, the troops are not. Is it a shame? Of course. But others must be given their due. So no, they give out the slogan of the post-revolutionary Com-trouble [the committee of the poor (tramps and lazy people)] in the Russian village against working peasants.

"We don't need anything. If only the others have nothing."

[Vasyan1971]

"Spain plans to join the Franco-German project to develop a promising European fighter of the 21st century, better known as the New Generation Weapons System (NGWS)," TsAMTO reported.
Another wunderwafle, such as fe-35, will once again be sculpted by the entire world of Europe. Pour megatons of dough with an unpredictable result. God help you.

[Maxwrx]

you can not jump over the generation of aircraft even if they create part of the details for the 5th generation. starting from the 4th generation, if you stopped producing aircraft, you will never catch up and no matter which country is economically powerful. even Japan, even south Korea, even India.

[Mikhail Matyugin]

Spain, of course, can plan anything, but how will it participate in the development of a new aircraft, if it has its own aircraft manufacturing base, unlike France, Germany does not actually have?

[Hypersound]

$ 20 million? Suppose that even 25 countries will participate in the program (although it is not a fact that there will be so much) and each will pay 20 million. $ 500 million to develop the latest fighter? : D For such ridiculous money, even the Russian Federation cannot develop, and Europe generally needs several tens of billions of dollars / euros

[Hypersound]

Well, judging by the description, this is still not the 6th generation, it’s manned (albeit supposedly with a swarm of drones). Ok, suppose this is a 5+ or even 5 ++ excellent pupil. But, adoption and the beginning of deliveries (just the beginning of deliveries, which will stretch for years to come! And even if everything goes according to plan) in 40-45, respectively, the saturation of the army with them was already somewhere in the 50s ... just the fifth generation, even if there are pluses? Well, that. The middle of the 21st century is already the time for the 6th generation

[wicked pinnochio]

spain great airplane power