The contract for the transfer of India to lease the submarine project 971 close to signing

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Indian Navy is close to signing an agreement with the Russian side on the conversion and transfer to the Indian the fleet for the long-term lease of another nuclear project 971 multi-purpose submarine from the Russian Navy, the bmpd blog reports with reference to Indian media.

The contract for the transfer of India to lease the submarine project 971 close to signing




The 971 project submarine, which they want to get in India, already has a tentative name, Chakra 3, should replace the Navy at the end of the lease with the current Russian nuclear multipurpose submarine S 72 Chakra (formerly K-152 "Nerpa") of the 971I project.

The Indian Navy was offered a choice of the Russian Navy's nuclear submarine K-295 "Samara" and K-391 "Bratsk" of the 971 project, which are currently being repaired at the headquarters enterprise Zvezdochka Center in Severodvinsk. Submarines were examined by a commission of the Indian Ministry who arrived on a visit last week Negotiations were held on the financial issues of the contract, India agreed to pay 3,3 billion for one submarine for leasing.

According to the agreement, the selected submarine by India (most likely - "Samara") will undergo extensive repairs and upgrades, including the replacement of the reactor core. Repairs will be carried out at the Russian enterprise, 72 is assigned to this month.

The Chakra lease (the former K-152 “Nerpa”) expires in January 2022, since the submarine was leased for 10 years in 2012, but could be extended for three years until the new 971 project boat was introduced to replace it . Currently, the Chakra is the only multi-purpose nuclear submarine of the Indian Navy, since the first submarine of Indian construction, the S 73 Arihant, is a missile boat and it faces constant technical problems.


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  1. +22
    6 December 2018 11: 06
    I don’t understand yet? Have we already filled ourselves with submarines? Are there not enough piers? Can Kuzyu also be leased back? No, well, why, we’ll earn some money.
    1. +2
      6 December 2018 11: 11
      The whole question is about money, which MO does not have for the Navy. For three billion dollars, you can build 2 Ashen for yourself and besides, the boats will return to Russia after the lease. Let us hope that Nerpa, upon returning to his homeland, will still serve the fleet. Although the age will already be very solid.
      1. +7
        6 December 2018 11: 21
        Quote: kjhg
        For three billion dollars, you can build 2 Ashen for yourself and besides, the boats will return to Russia after the lease.

        I would also add that the repair and modernization of the submarine, which will be leased, will be at a Russian enterprise, which will provide our people with work
      2. +15
        6 December 2018 11: 22
        Quote: kjhg
        For three billion dollars, you can build 2 Ashen for yourself and besides, the boats will return to Russia after the lease.

        Well, for the money returned by France, we have already built 3 Mistrals for ourselves, and they transferred the technology. Now we do everything ourselves.
        1. -1
          6 December 2018 11: 34
          The money returned for the Mistral went to the construction of other ships, primarily MRK. In connection with the reduction of the defense budget and the large expenditures of the Defense Ministry in the Syrian campaign, plans to build new ships had to be substantially reduced. I had to choose smaller and cheaper ships.
          1. +5
            6 December 2018 11: 49
            Quote: kjhg
            The money returned for the Mistral went to the construction of other ships, primarily MRK.

            Yes Yes. There is an old Soviet cartoon about a greedy merchant and tailor who sewed 8 hats for him. Take a look. How do you imagine transferring equipment and hp RTOs? Syrian Express to help you. And how many RTOs were mortgaged and handed over after the refund by France?
            Quote: kjhg
            large expenditures of the MO in the Syrian campaign had to significantly reduce plans for the construction of new ships.

            Yes, but the Commander-in-Chief says that everything is within the framework of the exercises. Or do you have other information? Then share.
      3. +9
        6 December 2018 11: 24
        Quote: kjhg
        For three billion dollars, you can build 2 Ash for yourself
        And, if you rent out 2 "Ash", then, with the proceeds, you can build 4 "Ash"? Here the question is not in price, but in time, how many years, and, most importantly, when, for ourselves, we will build something, if the world does not even smell, but smells like war ... They say, "The road is a spoon to dinner" , and this spoon is needed yesterday. As for money, it is not their absence that matters, but rather its theft and misuse, in their leakage abroad.
        1. -1
          6 December 2018 11: 40
          As for the money, it is not their absence that matters, but rather their plundering and misuse, their leaking abroad.
          This is a systemic problem and cannot be solved under the current government, since the theft process is launched by the leaders of the state. But ships need to be built today, even though most of it will be stolen.
      4. -1
        6 December 2018 11: 43
        A cool way to replenish the budget ... Especially against the background of the fact that to please our (and not ours too) oligarchs, we are deliberately breaking the agreement with OPEC, increasing oil production. Now, by leasing everything and everyone, it will be possible at least partially to compensate for the treasury losses from the exorbitant appetites of our oligarchs and the complete stupidity of the "economic bloc" of the Russian government.
      5. +4
        6 December 2018 12: 10
        Correctly! Green indicates which of the 971 submarines we have. It was proposed to correct the catastrophic situation by modernizing several boats for our Navy. These are nuclear submarines of the Russian Navy K-295 "Samara" and K-391 "Bratsk". Then I propose to think about it.
      6. +4
        6 December 2018 14: 05
        Quote: kjhg
        For three billion dollars, you can build 2 Ashen for yourself and besides, the boats will return to Russia after the lease.

        How many ships were stolen abroad in the 90s under the guise of scrap metal. Something I don’t see, for the proceeds the fleet will grow with new ships sad .
        I would like your perky optimism and confidence in at least one of your "Ash"
      7. +3
        6 December 2018 15: 26
        Oh, holy naivety! With what fright leasing money will go for the fleet? The budget grabs them and does not notice. It’s better to take offshore economy to clean water, and make Miller with Sechin and Co. patriots of the Russian Federation, but this is out of the realm of fantasy, for now.
      8. 0
        6 December 2018 15: 50
        Quote: kjhg
        The whole question is about money, which MO does not have for the Navy. For three billion dollars, you can build 2 Ashen for yourself and besides, the boats will return to Russia after rent


        Well, what’s there for a fat of three billion, for six years of repair it is 500 us a year, when we sell oil and gas for 000 billion dollars a year, and in six years it’ll run under two trillion
      9. 0
        6 December 2018 19: 52
        Quote: kjhg

        The whole question is about money, which MO does not have for the Navy.

        How do you know how much and for what "money" the MO has ??? ))
      10. amr
        0
        6 December 2018 21: 06
        Leasing is not for rent, leasing is a sale on credit, but unlike a loan, the property is drawn up after payment of the full amount!
    2. -7
      6 December 2018 11: 11
      Well, in principle, not sickly grandmothers, on them it is better to build three "Ash-M" with X-101/102 on 5000 km and hypersonic "Zircons" we will build.
      1. +9
        6 December 2018 11: 28
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        Well, in principle, not sickly grandmothers, on them it is better to build three "Ash-M" with X-101/102 on 5000 km and hypersonic "Zircons" we will build.

        You are naive in a childish way, nothing will break off the fleet from that money, but a new yacht will please someone’s eyes.
        1. -12
          6 December 2018 12: 08
          That's why the trolls grunt so sadlylaughing? Yes, like winding yourself - that's not too lazy to do this self-satisfactionsmile? Are you not sick of your own dullness and predictability? "yachts", "palace", let's talk more about "cartoons" with "pensions" and "the bridge is sinking", otherwise it is not a complete set. By God, like little children.
      2. +3
        6 December 2018 11: 36
        X-101/102 aren't air missiles?
        1. -6
          6 December 2018 12: 02
          Take away. What prevents her from being marine?
          1. +3
            6 December 2018 12: 15
            Well, I think that it also interferes with the X-55 being marine, because it is air-surface
            X-101 (X-102 performed by a thermonuclear warhead), (pronounced "Ha-101") is a strategic air-to-ground cruise missile using technologies to reduce radar visibility. Developed by the Rainbow Design Bureau (1995–2013).
            1. -6
              6 December 2018 12: 25
              There is NOTHING insoluble. Plus, it has already been announced that the Yasen-M will have X-101/102. And where does the X-55?
              1. +1
                6 December 2018 13: 16
                Don’t share the link, who could say that? The point is to fence a fence of missiles for the Navy, when there is a spectrum of ship-to-surface missiles, to solve any problems.
                ---- And where does the X-55?

                The fact that the X-55 should be replaced by the X-101/102, as the next generation. Remaking a purely aviation missile into a sea-based missile is not just the height of stupidity, it's not even funny
          2. +2
            6 December 2018 12: 17
            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            Take away. What prevents her from being marine?

            The fact that they are designed to be launched from an airplane.
    3. +9
      6 December 2018 11: 13
      Quote: dr.star75
      I don’t understand yet? Have we already filled ourselves with submarines? Are there not enough piers? Can Kuzyu also be leased back? No, well, why, we’ll earn some money.

      Considering that the situation in the world is rapidly aggravating, your question is very relevant ..
      1. +2
        6 December 2018 11: 26
        Quote: Svarog
        Considering that the situation in the world is rapidly aggravating,

        Is our MO in your mind?
        1. +7
          6 December 2018 12: 14
          Quote: dr.star75
          Quote: Svarog
          Considering that the situation in the world is rapidly aggravating,

          Is our MO in your mind?

          Management !!! (((They, most importantly, have financial indicators! We are ready to sell and rent, everything and everything! And under a plausible pretext ..
          And so, there are boats left, with Gulkin’s nose, most of which are under repair / sludge .. We have been building ships for decades
          With engine problems ..
          But, for show, "Shark" was brought to the Gulf of Finland. PPC ...
          1. +1
            6 December 2018 12: 24
            Quote: The Siberian Barber
            Management !!! (((They, most importantly, have financial indicators! We are ready to sell and rent, everything and everything! And under a plausible pretext ..

            And where is Shoigu looking?
            1. +3
              6 December 2018 12: 44
              Quote: dr.star75
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              Management !!! (((They, most importantly, have financial indicators! We are ready to sell and rent, everything and everything! And under a plausible pretext ..

              And where is Shoigu looking?

              I guess you should not overestimate it
          2. 0
            6 December 2018 12: 29
            Quote: Siberian barber
            But, for show, "Shark" was brought to the Gulf of Finland. PPC ...

            Why not show the West Dmitriy Donskoy modernized under the Mace with 20 mines?
            The parade is not only a show, but also a deterrent hi
            1. +3
              6 December 2018 12: 33
              Quote: Tusv
              Quote: Siberian barber
              But, for show, "Shark" was brought to the Gulf of Finland. PPC ...

              Why not show the West Dmitriy Donskoy modernized under the Mace with 20 mines?
              The parade is not only a show, but also a deterrent hi

              Question: sc. mines for "Bulava" redone ??
              The West has not seen the "Shark" ???))))
              That's all for the "internal user"
              The best means is not to "cut" the money, but a clear concept of the fleet development, and strict adherence to the implementation of the construction program !!
              And not "difficult childbirth" for decades from the backlog of the Union!
              What is happening is a crime!
              Where it is seen: build ships without an engine !!! Just do not blame ukrov and sanctions !! Our descendants will give an assessment of what is happening !!
              1. 0
                6 December 2018 13: 01
                Quote: Siberian barber
                The West has not seen the "Shark" ???))))

                With Blue Yes, With Mace No. Donskoy also has a different acoustic portrait hi
                1. 0
                  6 December 2018 13: 15
                  laughing Well, yes, an exhaustive answer)
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                  1. +1
                    6 December 2018 15: 55
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Quote: Siberian barber
                    The West has not seen the "Shark" ???))))

                    With Blue Yes, With Mace No. Donskoy also has a different acoustic portrait hi

                    Quote: Siberian barber
                    laughing Well, yes, an exhaustive answer)

                    Quote from rudolf
                    Sharks never had the Sharks, and two mines were converted into two under the Mace. The cruiser actually became an experimental one, it doesn’t stand on the database, it doesn’t go to the BS.

                    The point of discussing a topic with an opponent who does not own the topic at all (Tusv)? )))
    4. +8
      6 December 2018 11: 41
      completely gone crazy. Transfer a boat from the fleet to leasing ... Previously, they spoke about a boat from eternal repair.
    5. -5
      6 December 2018 11: 54
      Quote: dr.star75
      I don’t understand yet? Have we already filled ourselves with submarines? Not enough piers?

      We are rolling out the modernization of the nuclear submarines on the Indian loot, monitoring the results on Indian sailors, while the money is being dripped into the treasury and hard workers. What is bad then?
      1. +4
        6 December 2018 12: 10
        Quote: Tusv
        We are rolling out the modernization of the nuclear submarines on the Hindu loot, monitoring the results on Indian sailors, while the money is being dripped into the treasury and hard workers. What is bad then?

        That's it! 1. we lose the submarine for the fleet.
        2. Who said that the Indians will share with us any information on the operation of the boat;
        3. if there are jambs, as we learn because of what it is: design, workmanship, or crew jambs;
        4. let's give them a peresvet leasing. Well, not what? Well, with the proceeds of money 2 we will build ourselves!
        1. -1
          6 December 2018 12: 43
          Quote: dr.star75
          That's it! 1. we lose the submarine for the fleet.

          Stop the panic.
          Do the Indians have specialists in servicing the reactor, in eliminating jambs? So they will share the info as pretty, but with Peresvet you bent hi
          1. +5
            6 December 2018 12: 52
            If Japan drives the aircraft carriers to the Kuril Islands and tries to squeeze them out, will we pull up the Indians, or will Shoigu drop the leasing contract on the table?
      2. 0
        6 December 2018 12: 16
        Ck them acting in the fleet ???
      3. +6
        6 December 2018 13: 20
        Tusv
        We are not running around anything. The upgrade to 4 apr 971 should have been done, because they simply are actually not there now. I threw off the tablet above. So, Leopard and Wolf were the first to leave her, then Samara and Bratsk would take their place. So your assumption about some kind of break-in is not true, this boat will be the third or fourth in a series after modernization in any situation. The only thing is that she will leave for India, and will not defend now virtually the bare shores of our country. Many here do not understand the situation as I see and do not want to understand, which is even worse.
        1. +3
          6 December 2018 13: 33
          Quote: DarkMatter
          Many here do not understand the situation as I see and do not want to understand, which is even worse.

          I agree!
    6. 0
      6 December 2018 14: 04
      Maybe you will pay me sn ?. And it’s not very cheap to live in Severodvinsk
    7. 0
      6 December 2018 16: 15
      Quote: dr.star75
      Kuzyu can also give a lease? No, well, why, we’ll earn some money.

      To whom to lease a dimon ... you can even free. Of course, he does not know how to work, but at least he would tell tales before going to bed. Though the Fatherland would be of any use to him.
    8. +1
      6 December 2018 16: 47
      Does Kuzya need someone? Well, leasing is better than cutting. At least more profitable. It is already clear that our industry will not be able to modernize all Pike-b for itself. The modernization of those already in work dragged on. The scale of work was much larger than planned. It turned out that it was neither faster nor cheaper to build and upgrade the old Pike-b than to build a new apl. So part of the Pike-b just cut. Just because when they reach their hands, they will be already in extremely bad condition, which will further increase the time and cost of their repair. request
      Th in the middle of the 20s I’m wanging, we will have about 20 apl, not counting the strategists. 7 Ash-trees, 8 Anteev and pieces 5 repaired and modernized Shchuk-b for sure. Barracudas are sure to cut, simple pike too. Condors probably still reach this time. In general, there will be from 20 to 25 maples. Plus a dap. What will be ordered after the construction of those Ash-trees that are already under construction - xs. Hardly immediately Husky. Perhaps they will also order Ash or napl if the Kalina project is finished. Wait and see.
      By the way, I did not understand Nerpa. Are they going to return it to us from leasing or to scrap? HZ.
    9. +1
      6 December 2018 19: 54
      Quote: dr.star75

      I don’t understand yet? Have we already filled ourselves with submarines? Are there not enough piers? Can Kuzyu also be leased back? No, well, why, we’ll earn some money.

      Yes, Business babeasters do not smell, in fact, at the moment we are trading with everyone without taking into account Geopolitical interests!
  2. -6
    6 December 2018 11: 24
    Good deal good
  3. +4
    6 December 2018 11: 27
    What a joy. The Chakra / Nerpa means gouging, it is unclear in what condition it is now now, it seems like a year has been under repair due to an accident, now they still want to. And our thieves and happy to shed off ....
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    1. +1
      6 December 2018 12: 07
      The Indians actually wanted to buy Ash, but they have not sold it to them yet.
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        1. +1
          6 December 2018 12: 23
          Ivan Safronov, in his article "India Cannot Live Without Ash", published in the Kommersant newspaper, reported that Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu had discussed the issues of military-technical cooperation with Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar. leasing a nuclear submarine to the Indian Navy. According to Kommersant's information, the situation is complicated by different approaches: in Delhi they want to lease the newest project 885 Yasen multipurpose submarine, but the Russian Navy has its own plans for it As a compromise option, the transfer of a Project 971 submarine to India is being considered. The Russian Navy assigns "special tasks" related to ensuring national security to the Kazan, Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk submarines laid down at Sevmash , says the source "b"
          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2945497
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          2. +4
            6 December 2018 14: 13
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu over the telephone discussed with the Minister of Defense of India Manohar Parrikar issues of military-technical cooperation.

            Well, that’s the blessed pacifist who gives the boat on lease. Apparently, there is not enough money for the next song contest.
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    1. +1
      6 December 2018 12: 08
      Leave better links to the video if there is a mat, otherwise Roskomnadzor will slap a fine.
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    2. +4
      6 December 2018 12: 23
      Another vivid confirmation of the attitude towards people (((what can I say, about the ships !! am
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  7. +2
    6 December 2018 11: 49
    And so there are no boats, we also give them for rent. We don’t build ash trees and Boreas, but give birth, not to mention the surface fleet. Soon we will launch boats into the water instead of ships, and boats with oars as there are no engines either.
    1. 0
      6 December 2018 12: 25
      ... and some kind of "Brilev" will sweetly ventriloquist, about the next "victory", from each iron (((
  8. -9
    6 December 2018 11: 55
    Quote: dr.star75
    I don’t understand yet? Have we already filled ourselves with submarines? Are there not enough piers? Can Kuzyu also be leased back? No, well, why, we’ll earn some money.

    What you do not understand is too obvious.
    The country, or at least the army, needs money for development and modernization. Where does the budget come from? The main thing: to sell goods, technologies, service, sell "something unnecessary", taxes, rent. If the client does not want to buy, then at least for rent. And even more so - leasing is almost a purchase, only in installments, by the way. And even more so - this submarine is already in leasing, and leasing extension is a real benefit. Or would you prefer higher taxes? ;)
    1. +13
      6 December 2018 12: 17
      Quote: Tarasios
      If the client does not want to buy, then at least rent. And even more so - leasing is almost a purchase, only by installments, by the way. And even more so - this submarine is already on lease, and extending the lease is a real benefit. Or do you prefer tax increases? ;)

      Give your wife a lease to a neighbor. And spend the development money yourself.
    2. +6
      6 December 2018 12: 27
      Benefit???? What / who will protect you ???)))
      When, you have temporary financial difficulties, are you leasing your arms / legs / kidneys, give ??
  9. -8
    6 December 2018 11: 57
    Quote: mavrus
    A cool way to replenish the budget ... Especially against the background of the fact that to please our (and not ours too) oligarchs, we are deliberately breaking the agreement with OPEC, increasing oil production. Now, by leasing everything and everyone, it will be possible at least partially to compensate for the treasury losses from the exorbitant appetites of our oligarchs and the complete stupidity of the "economic bloc" of the Russian government.

    hmm, another and unreasoned "cry of the soul." It's so cute...
    1. +7
      6 December 2018 12: 29
      Quote: Tarasios
      hmm, another and unreasoned "cry of the soul." It's so cute...

      Are you kidding? Or "an effective manager who buys everything"? We have a sorely lack of combat units in the fleet, both surface and submarine! NO! From the word at all. And then they also want to give up the leftovers! To fight with what? Contracts?
  10. +8
    6 December 2018 12: 02
    This is a betrayal, what the hell lease? It will take us at least 3-4 years to build such a class submarine, do we have this time? At this rate, the entire army will be leased with Russia along with it
    1. +6
      6 December 2018 12: 28
      3-4 years ?? You are an optimist, however !!!
      1. +5
        6 December 2018 12: 46
        Something wrong is going on in the kingdom. The feeling that everyone wants to sell, give, surrender as soon as possible, have time to chop up the dough and get off with the stolen abroad until the people have time to rise.
        1. +4
          6 December 2018 12: 49
          You are probably not far from the truth ((
          What is happening, in ALL areas, indicates this ((
          For the Navy, it is insulting to tears
  11. 0
    6 December 2018 12: 41
    It is commendable that we are trying to get more advanced types of submarines and lease out the repairs that we have already used submarines. And at the same time, will we be able to replace all retired submarines and increase their required number?
    1. 0
      6 December 2018 12: 51
      "Efforts", somehow, not very
  12. -6
    6 December 2018 12: 54
    Quote: dr.star75
    Quote: Tarasios
    If the client does not want to buy, then at least rent. And even more so - leasing is almost a purchase, only by installments, by the way. And even more so - this submarine is already on lease, and extending the lease is a real benefit. Or do you prefer tax increases? ;)

    Give your wife a lease to a neighbor. And spend the development money yourself.

    Alas, the neighbor does not need this anymore: he uses your wife, as it turned out
    1. +4
      6 December 2018 13: 05
      Quote: Tarasios
      Alas, the neighbor does not need this anymore: he uses your wife, as it turned out

      This question is not for me, I asked you this. As an example of leasing.
  13. -3
    6 December 2018 13: 06
    Quote: dr.star75
    Quote: Tarasios
    Alas, the neighbor does not need this anymore: he uses your wife, as it turned out

    This question is not for me, I asked you this. As an example of leasing.

    so don’t be rude if we just talk
    1. +1
      6 December 2018 13: 22
      Quote: Tarasios
      so don’t be rude if we just talk

      So you started! hi
  14. +1
    6 December 2018 13: 06
    What's again???
  15. +1
    6 December 2018 14: 24
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: Siberian barber
    The West has not seen the "Shark" ???))))

    With Blue Yes, With Mace No. Donskoy also has a different acoustic portrait hi

    And since when has "Sineva" been on the "Shark" ???
  16. +5
    6 December 2018 14: 45
    "Samara" is a very valuable boat for our fleet. It should not be sold for money!
    The Hindus are expanding their naval cooperation with the United States. Exercises and port calls. So. Do you want the Americans to start training on the Samara to drown the enemy?
  17. +3
    6 December 2018 14: 58
    Premier League leasing ... betrayal !!!! Fences fell at home, we are building a gate to a neighbor ... Mess, no words ...
    1. 0
      7 December 2018 02: 49
      Quote: FORCE 38RUS
      Premier League leasing ... betrayal !!!! Fences fell at home, we are building a gate to a neighbor ... Mess, no words ...

      These boats are sky-ready, they’ve been standing near the wall for several years already. We’re not building anything for anyone, but we’re just selling this fallen fence to a neighbor for very good money, for which you can build a new, stronger fence.
      1. 0
        7 December 2018 17: 14
        The "God's chosen" will build yachts for themselves .. and not a fence ...

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