Military Review

Washington Post: If you did not know this - the USSR defeated Nazi Germany

102
The American newspaper writes about the anniversary of the beginning of the Soviet offensive 1941 of the year in the Battle of Moscow [material from December 5] - the battle that ended with the first major defeat of Nazi Germany. The Washington Post adds that this battle may have been the most important (turning point) of World War II in Europe.


"This is a day to remember the enormous losses that the Russian and other peoples under Soviet rule suffered in the war, and to recognize their central role in the victory of the Allies".

This opinion was expressed by Matthew Leno in his article posted by the above-mentioned American edition. Her translation is presented below. Some passages in WP are at least surprising.

Washington Post: If you did not know this - the USSR defeated Nazi Germany

Ceremonial march on Red Square on November 7 2014 of the year


In the two years preceding the battle of Moscow, German troops won rapid victories in Poland, Norway, France and the Balkans, giving Adolf Hitler power over Europe. Joseph Stalin, fearing Germany and hoping to avoid war, signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazi leader in 1939 and helped him crush Poland. But Hitler's ultimate goal was the USSR, which he considered to be the center of the “Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy,” who intended to rule the world. 22 June 1941, Germany attacked the Soviet Union.

In the first five months of the invasion, German troops constantly inflicted disastrous defeats on the Red Army. Soviet military power was listed only on paper, most of its equipment was outdated, training was often conducted very poorly, there were not enough critical means — radio, optics, and even maps of their own territory. By early December, total losses in the USSR were approaching 3 to millions, American and British intelligence feared that the Soviet Union might collapse in a few weeks.

That was the moment when Soviet General George Zhukov decided to strike back. In one month of the desperate battle near Moscow, the Germans were thrown 100 miles from the capital. She demonstrated the absolute limits of human endurance. Soldiers on both sides often survived, feeding on the flesh of dead horses and frozen potatoes found in the fields. One of the Red Army men, arrested by the "secret police," as a "defeatist," wrote:

We fight for villages and forests ... [our officers] lead us like cattle ... winter struck us, cold, hunger and typhoid.


16 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

But the battle for Moscow also reminds us of the truth that many Americans do not know: it was the Soviet Union that made the biggest contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany. The USSR suffered the greatest losses than any other ally: 11 millions of military dead and 16 millions more civilians. Between the years of 1941 and 1945, it was the Soviets that fought with most of the German armed forces and caused them maximum losses. The defeat of Nazi Germany - the merit of the USSR

The high price of war has changed Soviet strategic thinking and continues to influence Russian international politics. The USSR dominated Eastern Europe for 40 years, partly in order to have a buffer zone covering up from a possible attack from the West. The current Russian concerns about a possible expansion of NATO at the expense of Ukraine have similar roots, although Putin’s aggression in the region is clearly unfounded.

For Americans, it is important to recognize and take into account these realities. Russians are keenly aware that the scale of their victims is not understood in the United States. Indeed, Vladimir Putin’s regime gained popularity in part because of the resentment of the Russians that their country was not respected in the world, and their история remains misunderstood. Therefore, in order to improve Russian-American relations, it is necessary to pay tribute to the overwhelming contribution of Soviet citizens to victory in World War II, which will help to calm this feeling of bitterness.
Photos used:
https://function.mil.ru/
102 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 6 December 2018 06: 42
    +34
    A drop of truth in a sea of ​​Western and American lies ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 December 2018 07: 10
      +34
      "This is a day to remember the enormous losses suffered by the Russians and other peoples under Soviet rule in the war and to recognize their central role in the Allied victory."

      What a bastard! Yes, their one invitation to the Victory Day Parade in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 thrills. With the passage of military equipment they begin to beat convulsions. The immortal march erases all the jewelry they have stuck around the enormous role of the Allies in the victory over Nazi Germany. Mad dogs at the sight of the St. George Ribbon begin to rush at everyone in a row.
      Yes, such a confession is worse than a public slap in the face ... Without them, we would not know with whom our fathers and grandfathers fought and what "American aid" is.
      1. krot
        krot 6 December 2018 09: 00
        0
        If it will be necessary to defeat them, striped!
      2. DarkMatter
        DarkMatter 6 December 2018 12: 27
        +18
        And this is what then))

        In general, I now see more dirt in Russia in relation to the USSR than in the USA. Amazing right? And for our money.
        1. stalker 75
          stalker 75 6 December 2018 17: 53
          +8
          anti-Soviet propaganda is thriving, just look at the products of the modern cinema salute
        2. Macross
          Macross 7 December 2018 14: 13
          0
          Because, Stalin is not enough for that last Soviet power!
    2. Gorjelin
      Gorjelin 6 December 2018 07: 16
      +52
      A drop of truth in a sea of ​​Western and American lies ...

      a drop diluted with a liter of nonsense and stamps, the liver and lungs that are eaten
      1. qvazar
        qvazar 6 December 2018 08: 12
        +9
        Well, these are Americans, what else can you expect from mattresses besides lies? Nothing!
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2018 08: 19
        +7
        about the lungs generally smiled
        1. ankir13
          ankir13 7 December 2018 11: 57
          +2
          He smiled a lot, light smoked, and therefore smoked, a delicacy!
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 7 December 2018 13: 18
            0
            Quote: ankir13
            light smoked, which means smoked, a delicacy!

            I don’t think that I would try to refresh someone thread, I wouldn’t write such garbage
      3. Machito
        Machito 6 December 2018 08: 51
        +18
        Hitler’s fascists of the European Union were engaged in cannibalism during the Second World War, especially in Stalingrad.
      4. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 December 2018 10: 13
        +16
        Quote: Gorjelin
        a drop diluted with a liter of nonsense and stamps, the liver and lungs that are eaten

        Because for the West, Russians have always been barbarians. And nobody there is confused by the fact that Slavic civilization has several thousand years of its history. Despite the fact that our Bolshoi Theater is older than the general state of the United States.
        We are shown to the western man in the street exactly as barbarians, non-humans who are "capable of people and eat" as well. A deceitful move by Western propaganda.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 December 2018 14: 59
          0
          Who are the barbarians.
      5. Cheshire
        Cheshire 6 December 2018 16: 17
        +7

        A drop of truth in a sea of ​​Western and American lies ...

        a drop diluted with a liter of nonsense and stamps, the liver and lungs that are eaten

        It is interesting, where did the Red Army soldiers who left without commanders took vodka on the snowy expanses? Probably the same place where millions of raped Germans came from.
        1. Eirik Krause
          Eirik Krause 6 December 2018 20: 58
          +6
          It was the Germans who gave them vodka so that the Russians would not rape them (they paid off with schnapps)
        2. Tarasios
          Tarasios 7 December 2018 07: 11
          +3
          where did they get it, where did they get it ... they ordered an aliexpress, with delivery ...))))
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 6 December 2018 07: 17
      +10
      Quote: Tatar 174
      A drop of truth in a sea of ​​Western and American lies ..

      even in this drop - a sea of ​​lies about cannibalism, about cattle for slaughter ...
    4. Detective
      Detective 6 December 2018 07: 56
      +16
      A drop of truth in a sea of ​​lies is called Goebbels propaganda. The reception is famous. To what extent does it all look miserable. These propagandists frightened the entire Western world with a Russian threat and, as a result, they themselves were scared! Even when they try to write something that is similar to the truth, they get such opuses.
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. vkl.47
      vkl.47 6 December 2018 08: 24
      +10
      If the Americans make a film about the war, they will certainly put in a moment about the eaten lungs. We must also show that the Red Army men were animals and savages.
    7. 11 black
      11 black 7 December 2018 05: 28
      +1
      Quote: Tatar 174
      A drop of truth in a sea of ​​Western and American lies ...

      Truth? About Russian soldiers devouring the Germans or about "the officers are leading us like cattle"?
      This drop was added only to dilute another bucket of excrement - they decided to repel at least a little stink.
  2. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 December 2018 06: 42
    +33
    "Washington Post: If You Didn't Know It - The USSR Crushed Nazi Germany."
    Lies! Everyone knows that America, Britain and France defeated Hitler.
    And the Russians ate prisoners at that time. Mostly liver preferred, sirloin disdained.
    1. Petr1
      Petr1 6 December 2018 06: 45
      +6
      No, they nevertheless made a greater contribution to the way of Hitler, but the liver was eaten, just like the Syrian rebels.
    2. Graz
      Graz 6 December 2018 06: 52
      +23
      Hitler was destroyed by Superman, Captain America and Batman with Robin. All Americans know for sure.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 6 December 2018 07: 03
        +8
        Quote: Graz
        Hitler was destroyed by Superman, Captain America and Batman with Robin. All Americans know for sure.

        These later connected. And the main damage was caused by Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. I saw cartoons with my own eyes.
        1. poquello
          poquello 6 December 2018 07: 31
          0
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Quote: Graz
          Hitler was destroyed by Superman, Captain America and Batman with Robin. All Americans know for sure.

          These later connected. And the main damage was caused by Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. I saw cartoons with my own eyes.

          come on, Christopher Robin is generally a beast, the king of beasts - he commanded Winipuh
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 6 December 2018 07: 09
        +2
        Quote: Graz
        Hitler was destroyed by Superman, Captain America and Batman with Robin. All Americans know for sure.

        A few years ago I watched a movie about Captain America. Laughed like a horse, in a voice, the whole film. We must also see about Batman - there, probably, is even funnier ... wassat
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 December 2018 10: 18
          +5
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          A few years ago I watched a movie about Captain America. Laughed like a horse, in a voice, the whole film. We must also see about Batman - there, probably, is even funnier ...

          Alexey! hi
          I’ve never thought about this ... in all American films, the American hero is sure to save the world. At the same time, looking at such films, one gets the feeling that mattress directors with geography and history are all bad, because everything happens in the USA, and on the rest of the planet apparently monkeys live on palm trees.
          The paper majesty of the American nation, invented by Hollywood.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 7 December 2018 11: 36
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            The paper majesty of the American nation, invented by Hollywood.

            You watch Indian films
      3. ghby
        ghby 6 December 2018 09: 17
        -1
        Quote: Graz

        Hitler was destroyed by Superman, Captain America and Batman with Robin. All Americans know for sure.

        you forgot transformers, I personally saw on TV))))
        1. glum
          glum 7 December 2018 12: 06
          0
          I confirm that I also saw Bumblebee and Optimus bunker uncleared laughing
    3. PalBor
      PalBor 6 December 2018 07: 08
      +14
      While drunk. From the drunken blood of unhappy innocent Germans. It’s necessary to throw Kolya’s little idea with Urengoy.
    4. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 6 December 2018 07: 10
      +3
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      sirloin disdained

      Harsh. recourse
    5. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 6 December 2018 08: 57
      0
      One who repeats someone else's stupidity is doubly a fool.

      Even if he tries to laugh it off after this stupidity blurted out. Could it be enough to hide behind sarcasm?
      Although ... the likes are still underway. Go on.
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 December 2018 15: 14
      0
      I forgot about the Poles from the Regional Army. "
  3. Bator
    Bator 6 December 2018 06: 43
    +9
    soon the Yankees will write that the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West
    1. Yngvar
      Yngvar 6 December 2018 07: 10
      +2
      So our emigrants prompted them ...
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 December 2018 06: 44
    +5
    and recognize their central role in the victory of the allies .... The defeat of Nazi Germany-the merit of the USSR
    What happened to the Washington Post? But thank you for reminding the Americans who made the main contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany.
  5. Ushly_bashkort
    Ushly_bashkort 6 December 2018 06: 44
    +5
    16 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

    Russia's current fears of a possible NATO expansion at the expense of Ukraine have similar roots, although Putin’s aggression in the region is clearly unfounded.

    Marijuana will be chopped off and let's scribble articles in your Washington posts! fool
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 6 December 2018 06: 49
      0
      Quote: Ushly_bashkort
      Marijuana Chips

      laughing You probably wanted to say - get smoked wink lol
      1. Petr1
        Petr1 6 December 2018 07: 19
        +2
        Yes, he knows everything, then he and the cunning Bashkor t laughing
  6. Ural cossack
    Ural cossack 6 December 2018 06: 46
    +2
    No offense. Just have a sense of dignity. When you understand, then it will be possible to talk.
  7. Imper
    Imper 6 December 2018 06: 52
    +4
    In the original article, there is probably an inscription like "The opinion of the author categorically does not coincide with the position of the editorial board of the VP"
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      6 December 2018 11: 07
      -1
      This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners: "This article does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners."
      1. Imper
        Imper 6 December 2018 11: 22
        0
        The article is in the Washington Post, and in Bloomberg there are more or less adequate publications regarding Russia. So my version of the label is more likely for VP)))
        1. Eugene-Eugene
          6 December 2018 12: 16
          -1
          Yes, I made a mistake, this is WP, by the way, they have nothing to do with it.
          1. Imper
            Imper 6 December 2018 16: 05
            +4
            I looked at the comments in the original - the Americans recall the landlisse, whose role we are supposedly belittling, losses due to incompetence of the command staff, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, etc. and it is unlikely that anyone will convince them.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 6 December 2018 17: 38
              +2
              Nobody tells or writes to them that about 80% of the personnel of the Wehrmacht was destroyed by the Soviet Union. If memory serves, then this is somewhere around 190 divisions from 220-230. I do not speak for Hitler's allies. Also for the Manchurian operation against the Kwantung Army of Japan. By the way, many military historians consider it a reference offensive operation during WWII. hi
              1. sah4199
                sah4199 7 December 2018 18: 05
                -2
                The Manchurian operation against the Kwantung Army of Japan is really a reference - it was carried out against the CAPITULATING ARMY. Well, krysyatnichestvo - the USSR did not fight with Japan, but took the territory.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 10 December 2018 05: 15
                  0
                  Over 30 thousand losses from our side. Of these, almost 10 thousand were killed ... August 9. the operation began, and only 14 issued a decree of the emperor, which was brought on August 19 to the Japanese army. By this time, everything was over: the enemy was dismembered and the encirclement of scattered groups was completed ... But some did not understand and in some cities they had to land troops and send mobile mechs until August 28. groups. 220 conn. and the units were given the honorary name "Harbin", "Higanskie", etc. 301 were awarded orders.
  8. Vanek
    Vanek 6 December 2018 06: 53
    +16
    Therefore, to improve Russian-American relations due * the overwhelming contribution of Soviet citizens to the victory in World War II, which will soothe this feeling of bitterness.

    Each, EVERY family in the USSR, and now in Russia, has experienced the Second World War.

    And the fact that they recognize the victory does not know how to bite that bitterness.

    Great-grandfather lies in Novorossiysk.

    His brother is missing.

    Grandfather near Königsberg in the tank burned down.

    Grandma spent the whole war in the field on a tractor.

    * What credit they want to give me.
  9. IGOR GORDEEV
    IGOR GORDEEV 6 December 2018 06: 59
    +6


    16 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

    Without such "details" the material would not have been allowed to "print". What will be the impression of the teachers of this edition after reading such lines?
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 6 December 2018 07: 12
      +2
      Quote: IGOR GORDEEV


      16 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

      Without such "details" the material would not have been allowed to "print". What will be the impression of the teachers of this edition after reading such lines?

      And I would try the American liver after such an article ... I think that it’s no worse than beef ...
  10. Ham
    Ham 6 December 2018 07: 02
    +3
    what is this totalitarian, non-shaking article ... everyone knows that Hitler was defeated by Popeye the sailor, Private Ryan, Brad Pitt and the grandfather of Barack Obama ...
  11. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 6 December 2018 07: 03
    +1
    and then the Yankees remained true to themselves, without a barrel of shit in our direction they could not do.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 6 December 2018 07: 05
    +4
    Therefore, to improve Russian-American relations, it is necessary to pay tribute to the overwhelming contribution of Soviet citizens to the victory in World War II, which will soothe this feeling of bitterness.
    ... Hollywood, the film will remove how the American and English special forces wanted to save Stalin, but they were late .. The Red Army won near Moscow ... smile
  13. Zubr
    Zubr 6 December 2018 07: 11
    +4
    An article full of porridge. Are they really such nonsense in such an eminent publication? For finally remembering our merits, thank you. But then a complete nonsense raced, they dragged everything together, and the impression was that a poorly prepared schoolboy was writing an article. No style, consistency.
  14. 501Legion
    501Legion 6 December 2018 07: 17
    +6
    but this garbage about the liver and lungs must be inserted. can't write normally
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 6 December 2018 07: 27
      +5
      And be sure to mention that the Russians were drunk.
  15. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 6 December 2018 07: 24
    +3
    "... lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander, she killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs."
    If we set aside the "honesty" of Goebbels' propaganda, aimed at making the Germans hate the Russians, and soldiers, including - it is better to fight to the last than to be captured by cannibals. Americans are generally more inclined to believe the Nazis as being close in spirit. Remember the episode when the blacks from the military police, escorting the SS, were not allowed into the dining room where the Nazis dined (a white black is not a comrade). The abolition of segregation in the United States was after the flight into space of Yuri Gagarin, and in fact - after the assassination of Martin Luther King. During the war, the United States supplied Hitler with strategic materials through Portugal and Spain, as well as Sweden.
    But remembering how the Japanese ate American and Australian (British) prisoners alive (they especially liked to cut off the breasts of living nurses) is not comme il faut. By the way, what kind of tastes does a German have? Lungs ... However, sausages also love blood sausage. By the way, about food. Some call their neighbors "macaroni", the neighbors say: "paddling pools". Yesterday I heard that in Spain Russians are still called "turnips", although we switched to potatoes long ago (however, "it's easier than a steamed turnip"). Anyway,
    1. ghby
      ghby 6 December 2018 09: 20
      0
      Quote: pafegosoff
      although we switched to potatoes long ago (however - "easier than a steamed turnip"). Anyway,

      Turnip is delicious, potatoes are easier to grow.
  16. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 6 December 2018 07: 27
    +2
    "... The current Russian fears about the possible expansion of NATO at the expense of Ukraine have similar roots, although Putin's aggression in the region is clearly unfounded."
    =========
    And what is "reasonable" from the perspective of the god from Washington? "Katz offers to surrender"?
  17. faiver
    faiver 6 December 2018 07: 34
    +6
    Well, not so without the details, but the journalist does not want to remember how brave American warriors took the island of Kysk, where there was not a single Japanese and lost about three hundred people dead and missing, not counting the wounded? The pattern of warfare ...
    Well, at least remember who the third Reich rolled out ....
    1. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 6 December 2018 11: 04
      +2
      Well, they and the opening of the second front took place without heroism. Though the landing, even battles with battered Germans. History buffs could refresh their memory with a series of narrations about the opening of a second front. Faced in the 41st army of Hitler and our allies, there is no doubt that the allies would quickly surrender.
  18. Well, how else
    Well, how else 6 December 2018 07: 44
    0
    I will not juggle. Everything is written in the article.
    ..was the USSR, which he considered the center of the "Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy", plotting to rule the world ..?
    Well, at the end the most important thing ....
    ... that will soothe this feeling of bitterness ...
    Well, what to say ...
    Grieved, reassured, pleased .....
  19. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 6 December 2018 07: 51
    +1
    a drunk group of Red Army soldiers, lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander, killed prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

    So they believe in this nonsense of a madman.
  20. 123456789
    123456789 6 December 2018 07: 53
    0
    It was that moment when the Soviet general George Zhukov decided to strike back.

  21. Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 December 2018 07: 59
    0
    On December 16, a German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunk group of Red Army soldiers, lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander, killed prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs. ------------- Sorry not Hitler himself)))
  22. oracul
    oracul 6 December 2018 08: 09
    +2
    The article is written solely on the tracing of propaganda - true, true, false, false, true. And then everyone chooses for himself: the liberals gladly pick up and duplicate the lie, referring to the truth given, and the patriots good-naturedly drop the lie and blame the author for it, but note as an achievement that they finally recognized the truth. In fact, this article is nothing more than a tiny episode, which the majority will not even notice on the grand Russophobic Sabbath.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 6 December 2018 09: 01
      +1
      Ordinary propaganda, once again proving that the proverb about a fly in the ointment and a barrel of honey is relevant. As well as the statement that negative interrupts the positive at the subconscious level. Rat hamburger.
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 December 2018 08: 24
    +4
    Let them chatter what they want, but I congratulate all those who are not indifferent on the next anniversary of the beginning of the defeat of the Nazis near Moscow. For us, this is a story, but for participants, it may be an unconscious, but a step into immortality. And the price is worthless if we forget it as banderlogs. All happy anniversary. soldier love
    1. Vasily Yurievich
      Vasily Yurievich 7 December 2018 13: 50
      0
      Join us!
  24. K-50
    K-50 6 December 2018 08: 29
    +1
    6 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

    What only xren pin dos do not come up with !!!
    Even in the besieged Leningrad there wasn’t such rats of spruce, cats and dogs, but only thugs ate food. So no one counts them for people. Here, about the military personnel, the soldiers talk that after the loss of the commander decided to eat prisoners. Ours does not drink so much. fool negative
  25. sergo1914
    sergo1914 6 December 2018 08: 37
    +1
    16 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.



    Where is Olgovich ??? !!! Here about the cannibalism of the Bolsheviks topic.
    1. renics
      renics 6 December 2018 09: 38
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      Here about the cannibalism of the Bolsheviks topic.

      (But Hitler's ultimate goal was the USSR, which he considered the center of the "Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy")
      Rather, about anti-Semitism, if Jewish organizations and lobbyists in the US Congress see such a characteristic, they will certainly announce the bloating of anti-Semitism.
  26. BAI
    BAI 6 December 2018 08: 57
    +2
    Yesterday there was such an anniversary, and not a single article on this topic was published at VO in History, Analytics, or Opinion. Not even in the News. If it weren’t for VP, would you not have noticed the date?
  27. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 6 December 2018 09: 26
    +1
    Has it really begun to reach slowly? belay
  28. The comment was deleted.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 6 December 2018 17: 58
      0
      Quote: renics
      An amazing site where comments are written exclusively from the standpoint of pessimism and populism. If about Russia and especially about Putin, discontent and indignation are below the plinth. Also, if there is the same discontent about the USA, not only is it outrage. And nothing more and no thoughts are expressed. Bravado bordering on fear and reckless hatred. And another oddity is that no references are made to the sources of articles or the authors are reported as if it were post-Soviet agitation.

      What is "post-Soviet propaganda"?
  29. Conductor
    Conductor 6 December 2018 09: 47
    0
    Dede during the Second World War was a railwayman near Orenburg, as he said that cannibalism was there.
  30. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 6 December 2018 10: 27
    +1
    In the early 90s, an Israeli teacher was very surprised when she learned about the defeat of the Kwantung Army by the forces of the Red Army. In the lesson, she tried to tell us that the Russian participation in the defeat of Japan was symbolic.
    As for the role of the USSR in defeating Hitler, everything was taught correctly, the students were already surprised at this.
  31. Tochilka
    Tochilka 6 December 2018 10: 35
    0
    Our "article writers" are not far behind. Who cares to read "The first victory in the battle for Moscow" by a certain A. Khokhlov in the newspaper Vechernyaya Moskva №185 dated 8.10.18/4/34 there is such fierce nonsense in half of the article ... The author has 4 T-XNUMX tanks driving the XNUMXth tank division as much as Guderian himself! Which recklessly crushes our infantry surrounded in an open field with tanks ...
    What then to ask from those overseas?
  32. Tutejszy
    Tutejszy 6 December 2018 11: 23
    +1
    16 December A German soldier who escaped from Soviet captivity told his intelligence officer that a drunken Red Army group lost in the snowy expanses and left without a commander killed the prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs.

    An amazingly reliable source! Infa, presumably, from Dr. Goebbels? By the way, samurai often ate the liver of prisoners. Here, after all, how convenient: if the blow "o-kesa" is applied from right to left, the upper half of the body falls, and the lower half of the body stands on its feet - don't yawn here, pull out the liver with your left hand and eat, right in battle! Well, this is civilized Japan, not some bastard Russia!
  33. midshipman
    midshipman 6 December 2018 11: 48
    +3
    I congratulate all the people who once lived in the USSR on the beginning of the Red Army offensive in the battle of Moscow. Zhukov had an excellent operation to defeat the Nazis.
    He also saved Leningrad when he rebuilt the defense structure of Leningrad in 10 days from September 9, 1941. And on December 9, our people will celebrate the defeat of the Nazis near Tikhvin and the liberation of this city from the Nazis (the Nazis were there for two months). On this topic, I published in "VO" with the consent of the abbot of the Tikhvin monastery a documentary article "Wandering and the return of the Tikhvin Icon of the Mother of God." Read interest, you will not regret it.
  34. vvp2412
    vvp2412 6 December 2018 13: 09
    0
    how did the phasington regional committee miss this?
    1. renics
      renics 6 December 2018 13: 39
      0
      Quote: vvp2412
      how did the phasington regional committee miss this?

      There is no such article for the fifth of December 18, as there is no author with the same name, Matthew Leno
      I found only this one, with such a heading and dated May 8, 2015. Do not forget how the Soviet Union saved the world from Hitler. Posted by Ishaan Tharoor, correspondent for The Washington Post, on international relations and US foreign policy. Previously worked in TIME magazine as a senior editor - first in Hong Kong and later in New York. He is the son of the Indian politician Shashi Tharoor. He graduated from Yale University in 2006.
      In this article, preference is given to the USSR in the fight against German fascism.
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        6 December 2018 18: 30
        0
        Lying then why? https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/12/04/why-its-time-give-soviet-union-its-due/?utm_term=.e025c06e3423

        article "Why it's time to give the Soviet Union its due for World War II" By Matthew Lenoe
        December 5 at 6: 14 AM
  35. Maxim NiNo
    Maxim NiNo 6 December 2018 16: 01
    +3
    Amerikosy, as always, in their own way! It would be better if they didn’t write anything! And here! To expose the Russian army to drunken vacations! They were afraid for what? That Hitler would triumph over the USSR? They wouldn’t be against it! Otherwise they wouldn’t allow it! Britain and America just waited for our more to be killed if the USSR didn’t please them. They opened the 2nd front only when they realized that it was no longer possible to lose time. They had their own interests. Putin’s aggression? Everyone knows that America is pursuing such a policy and we have to defend it. Do we disrespect our country in the world? Well, if only they call their America the world, then maybe she does everything for this. It is an abomination and not an article! In general, in almost every American action movie I just see that they drag Russians in like gangsters or just negative people! In the subconscious, the abandoned phrase remains forever as an opinion about the whole people as a whole! And they make good use of it! And then the sacred is hurt! The heroic feat of the people! They gave their lives for freedom from destruction! Where can they understand this? Either write well or not! Here is my opinion!
  36. Doliva63
    Doliva63 6 December 2018 18: 03
    0
    Quote: renics
    Quote: vvp2412
    how did the phasington regional committee miss this?

    There is no such article for the fifth of December 18, as there is no author with the same name, Matthew Leno
    I found only this one, with such a heading and dated May 8, 2015. Do not forget how the Soviet Union saved the world from Hitler. Posted by Ishaan Tharoor, correspondent for The Washington Post, on international relations and US foreign policy. Previously worked in TIME magazine as a senior editor - first in Hong Kong and later in New York. He is the son of the Indian politician Shashi Tharoor. He graduated from Yale University in 2006.
    In this article, preference is given to the USSR in the fight against German fascism.

    Ie, we are "rubbed" here? Funny laughing VO "turns ..., turns ..., turns into ..." ("The Diamond Hand").
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      6 December 2018 18: 35
      +1
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/12/04/why-its-time-give-soviet-union-its-due/?utm_term=.e025c06e3423

      article "Why it's time to give the Soviet Union its due for World War II" By Matthew Lenoe
      December 5 at 6: 14 AM
  37. Panting
    Panting 6 December 2018 19: 34
    +2
    The USSR defeated fascist Germany, but only the USA and England created and supported this Germany. Not everyone in America knows about this, either.
  38. nekromonger
    nekromonger 6 December 2018 22: 26
    0
    killed prisoners of war and ate their liver and lungs .--- Horror nah. plot for Stephen King.
  39. Ryna sydorova
    Ryna sydorova 7 December 2018 00: 58
    0
    It would be nice to give a link to the original article in WP
    1. macgyver
      macgyver 7 December 2018 13: 07
      0
      Link above ...
  40. vnord
    vnord 7 December 2018 09: 50
    0
    I talked somehow with American naval sailors (they are not politicians) over a cup of "tea", they all know and understand very well about the Second World War and the USSR tab, and they are quite sane guys .. And they are not stupid like the ace they like to say, they are just different (mentality) ... And no matter how much I did not communicate with different foreigners with Americans, the easiest way with them is to find a common language ..
  41. businessv
    businessv 7 December 2018 10: 18
    +1
    The author "forgot" to write that the allies entered defeated Europe only to participate in the carve-up of the post-war world order! Well, at least they wrote something and that's not bad, although the author is right, some passages cause, to put it mildly, questions.
  42. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 7 December 2018 11: 10
    0
    Well, Russia also defeated Napoleon. Does this not show that she still remains a great power!
  43. Vasily Yurievich
    Vasily Yurievich 7 December 2018 13: 32
    +2
    Therefore, to improve Russian-American relations, it is necessary to pay tribute to the overwhelming contribution of Soviet citizens to the victory in World War II, which will soothe this feeling of bitterness.

    That's it! Like, let's say to these Russians what they want to hear, “calm down” them, and then we'll do whatever we want ...
    To normalize relations, you do not have to poke your nose out of your business.
    And what the hell to me their recognition ?! They know the story - well, they don’t know - I do not care about them! The main thing for me is that my children and the children of their children know about the Feat!
  44. NordUral
    NordUral 7 December 2018 15: 25
    +1
    Yes, the Anglo-Saxons thoroughly distorted our history, attributing the victories of our grandfathers and our fathers to ourselves. And the author, no doubt an honest man, is still confused in this intricate combination of lies and truths about the Great Patriotic War, although he said the main thing as it was.
  45. Vladimir Demchishin
    Vladimir Demchishin 7 December 2018 16: 14
    +2
    We do not need your respect. We know well who we are and what we stand for.
  46. Alexex
    Alexex 7 December 2018 16: 23
    0
    There are still sane people in the USA ... it’s a pity that there are no such people in power, or so few of them are inaudible.
  47. Alexex
    Alexex 7 December 2018 16: 31
    0
    Quote: Cheshire
    It is interesting, where did the Red Army soldiers who left without commanders took vodka on the snowy expanses? Probably the same place where millions of raped Germans came from.

    But what do you think will tell the escaped from captivity in frosty weather? .... Maybe there were hallucinations from frost ... you never know ...
  48. Alexex
    Alexex 7 December 2018 16: 38
    0
    Quote: Mister Creed
    Faced in the 41st army of Hitler and our allies, there is no doubt that the allies would quickly surrender.

    So Hitler’s army clashed with the French-English army .... Do you remember Dunkirk? That’s why the legs took away Hitler allowed them to take off ...