Putin: I do not want to participate in the election campaign Poroshenko

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The President of the Russian Federation for the first time commented on the statements of Petro Poroshenko that he is trying to phone him, but every time he is refused by the Kremlin. According to Vladimir Putin, he does not intend to participate in the election campaign of Petro Poroshenko. It is the pre-election actions of the Ukrainian president that the Russian leader considers all his last steps, including the provocation near the Kerch Strait and the events with the introduction of martial law in the 10 regions of Ukraine.

Putin: I do not want to participate in the election campaign Poroshenko




President Putin:
The point is not that I simply shy away and do not want to talk with Pyotr Alekseevich, this is not the point. The fact is that I do not want to take part in his election campaign.


According to Vladimir Putin, Poroshenko artificially creates crisis situations, shifts the blame for this on the Russian Federation, and then tries to demonstrate that he successfully solves the problems that have arisen.

President of Russia:
This is a simple combination, and I do not want to participate in these combinations and I will not.


Recall that Petro Poroshenko in his many recent interviews repeatedly stated attempts to reach the Russian president. The refusal of Vladimir Putin from telephone conversations with him Poroshenko declared "the refusal of attempts to de-escalate the situation."

The President of Russia, meanwhile, clearly makes it clear that talking to frank puppets of the West who are trying to show themselves to be independent politicians is pointless.

The presidential election in Ukraine should take place on March 31 2019 of the year, if until that time the martial law imposed by Poroshenko is not extended. Poroshenko himself said earlier that "the transfer of the election is in the interests of Putin." What exactly is this "interest" is, the president of Ukraine could not explain.
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  1. IGU
    +35
    5 December 2018 15: 01
    The Russian president, meanwhile, clearly makes it clear that talking to outspoken Western puppets who are trying to appear to be independent politicians is pointless.
    Simply put, I do not communicate with mongrel. This is more understandable and much shorter.
    1. +17
      5 December 2018 15: 03
      The Russian president, meanwhile, clearly makes it clear that talking to outspoken Western puppets who are trying to appear to be independent politicians is pointless.

      It is a pity that our president only now understood this .. but what if in 2014? The situation would be clearly different ..
      1. +16
        5 December 2018 15: 20
        To begin with, our "guarantor" of everything and everyone, at least, had to recognize the independence of the DPR, LPR and stop the business of Russian hucksters with the Kiev junta.
        1. +7
          5 December 2018 15: 52
          Yeah! Recognize LDNR! Our guarantor recognized Poroshenko! Like the West! However, in one dudu we will blow! They recognized, we recognized! And how now, after all, to recognize LDNR? Well, if Poroshenko was recognized then, what are we doing now? Changing shoes on the fly?
          1. +6
            5 December 2018 15: 56
            Soft Russian people, what to say .. Both the president and the government incl. Only here with the Anglo-Saxons can not be soft, but with their mongrel, all the more!
            1. +6
              5 December 2018 16: 11
              Need a leader with a steel will and a clear goal! Limp leaders lead the country into a swamp. This is Nicholas II and Yanukovych. Putin also does not see a will and a clear goal.
          2. +2
            5 December 2018 15: 58
            And how now, after all, to recognize LDNR?

            Do you propose not to recognize the DNI, LC?
            1. 0
              5 December 2018 16: 14
              Late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have come off. How does Russia recognize the DPR and LPR if it recognized the Ukrainian regime? HPP has driven itself into a corner!
              1. +2
                5 December 2018 17: 22
                Quote: Mr Credo
                Late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have come off. How does Russia recognize the DPR and LPR if it recognized the Ukrainian regime? HPP has driven itself into a corner!

                It is you yourself who have driven yourself into a corner that is not there. laughing And then the relationship of recognition? One does not interfere with the other at all. We recognize Georgia as a state, and this did not prevent us from recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
                1. -1
                  5 December 2018 17: 48
                  It is logical! When we recognized Georgia and when Ukraine! Why did they recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia and did not recognize LDNR?
                  1. +2
                    5 December 2018 19: 36
                    Quote: Mr Credo
                    It is logical! When we recognized Georgia and when Ukraine! Why did they recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia and did not recognize LDNR?

                    Can you answer why Kvachkov is sitting, but Chubais has a lot of money? The answer is the same as for your many questions.
                2. +1
                  5 December 2018 19: 30
                  Yeah, and therefore, Georgians every day in the markets of Russian cities, Georgian restaurants like dirt, Georgian actors perform in Russia, Russia is the largest trading partner in Russia. And the Georgian government barks at Russia and wags its tail in front of the West.
                  1. 0
                    6 December 2018 10: 57
                    Quote: JääKorppi
                    Yeah, and therefore, Georgians every day in the markets of Russian cities, Georgian restaurants like dirt, Georgian actors perform in Russia, Russia is the largest trading partner in Russia. And the Georgian government barks at Russia and wags its tail in front of the West.

                    In the elderberry garden, and in Kiev, the uncle .... Go deep into the topic of Georgia, and then continue about the uncle in the garden ... laughing
        2. 0
          5 December 2018 18: 06
          Quote: Boris Nevzorov
          To begin with, our "guarantor" of everything and everyone, at least, had to recognize the independence of the DPR, LPR

          And why is he should?
      2. +3
        5 December 2018 15: 54
        Well, listen, if he tried to talk with these inadequate, this does not mean that Putin did not know, he knew everything, but tried to the last chance to use this even small opportunity, or you consider yourself smarter than the president and more knowledgeable in politics (I don’t offended).
    2. +8
      5 December 2018 15: 09
      Petruha has already groaned on this subject:
      “Putin will win,” Poroshenko predicted the consequences of the postponement of the presidential election in Ukraine

      "Only Vladimir Putin will benefit from the postponement of the presidential elections in Ukraine," Petro Poroshenko said in an interview with the American publication Bloomberg.

      “If we postpone the presidential elections, there will be only one winner in this situation, and the name of this winner is Mr. Putin. We will not give him this chance, "Poroshenko said suddenly, without explaining, however, what is the benefit of the Russian president."
      Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1543980692

      Even if Petruha, from the next binge, puts on in his own pants, he will say that Russia benefits from this.
    3. 0
      5 December 2018 15: 11
      Poroshenko, Trump, Macron, May, - losers who will very soon leave the political arena. Merkel is more successful but will also leave. New ones will come, we will speak. There is nothing to talk about with downed pilots - McCain knew that.
      1. +2
        5 December 2018 15: 38
        Are those who became presidents losers? And then who are the lucky ones? Plumbers?
        1. +2
          5 December 2018 16: 05
          Mister! Do you call Poroshenko president? In my opinion this is the appointed administrator of the "all 10" store. If you do not understand my comment, I explain - it was not about the broad masses, but about the administrators ...
          1. +3
            5 December 2018 16: 19
            From the commentary, I realized that losers became presidents. And the fact that Poroshenko is just an administrator is no doubt!
      2. +1
        5 December 2018 18: 20
        Quote: URAL72
        New ones will come, we will speak.

        And who will talk to the "new". You most likely think that in Europe and America something depends on the personality of the president? Then the flag is in your hands. With this "who" will talk in general or will they again refer to some shot down kite or an inflatable boat of a Ukrainian fisherman pierced in the Black Sea? belay
    4. +22
      5 December 2018 15: 22
      The Administration of the President of the Russian Federation reports that on Monday evening a drunken, ill-mannered man phoned the Kremlin again. At first he threatened, asked if they knew at the other end of the wire who was coming for him, called for Nat and demanded financial satisfaction. Then he burst into tears, asked for a loan and snored into the phone.
    5. +1
      5 December 2018 15: 47
      Yeah! I don’t communicate with mongrels !? And then recognized this regime? We recognize, we do not recognize! We’re talking, here we’re wrapping fish! We conclude Minsk agreements with them, or we don’t want to communicate! Che back like in a pan? The cross had to be worn earlier, the cowards had already been removed in the 14th! And who is to blame now? Poroshenko !? And we are all white! Oh well! We whitewash ourselves further!
      1. +1
        5 December 2018 16: 03
        Quote: Mister Creed
        Then we conclude the Minsk agreements with them,

        Have you read them? Not... No. So read https://ria.ru/world/20150212/1047311428.html. The Minsk agreements provide for a set of measures as such, the withdrawal of heavy weapons, the withdrawal of foreign armed groups and the beginning of a dialogue on holding local elections in southeastern Ukraine. Now the question is, who should do all this? Putin? Or Poroshenko?
        1. -3
          5 December 2018 16: 16
          Well, if you made an agreement, then you recognized! The rest is secondary!
        2. -1
          5 December 2018 16: 24
          Quote: Tersky
          Quote: Mister Creed
          Then we conclude the Minsk agreements with them,

          Have you read them? Not... No. Well read it. The Minsk agreements provide for a set of measures as such, the withdrawal of heavy weapons, the withdrawal of foreign armed groups and the beginning of a dialogue on holding local elections in southeastern Ukraine.

          Well, how did they do it? How many times do you need to read them in order for everything written in them to be realized? Or maybe the whole value of these agreements does not exceed the value of the paper on which these tablets are inscribed? I will immediately run ahead, tk. I already had a "conversation" with the troll (troll is not addressed to you), so he made a similar argument: oh, what good Minsk agreements, oh, how well everything is written there, well, it’s necessary: ​​you just didn’t read them. As an intention, for all good versus all bad, the Minsk agreements may not be bad. Yes, only people do not live on paper. But in reality, let me remind you that the Minsk Protocol (Minsk Agreement) is a document signed 5 September 2014 years In Minsk. It's been over 4 years now. And things are still there, how many do not re-read them. Well, and since I love images, I will bring this one: so I decided to become holier than the Pope and I sin. Well, and so, that I am sinning, because I really wanted and my hotness is correct and deserves praise, but I sin. Why, you probably have not read what a righteous person I wanted to become!
          This is the case with the Minsk agreements, they are on paper, but in life they are completely different. Eastern wisdom - "How many times do not repeat" halva ", your mouth will not be sweet."
          1. +1
            5 December 2018 16: 36
            Quote: Leshy1975
            Well, and how did they complete it?

            Well, ask this question Poroshenko, Russia, then under what matters? Do not confuse warm with soft.
            1. -3
              5 December 2018 17: 13
              Quote: Tersky
              Quote: Leshy1975
              Well, and how did they complete it?

              Well, ask this question Poroshenko, Russia, then under what matters? Do not confuse warm with soft.

              Will it help in the same way as reading the Minsk agreements multiple times, or in some other way? So far, the price of the Minsk agreements and questions to Poroshenko is in reality the same, i.e. nor any. And since you defend the Minsk agreements: have you read them? Don't ... Well, read it. "It's true, there are so many good things written there. So you personally, tell me how questions to Poroshenko help to fulfill the good Minsk agreements.
              1. +2
                5 December 2018 18: 18
                Quote: Leshy1975
                So you personally and tell me how questions to Poroshenko help the implementation of good Minsk agreements.

                Repeat again? Ask this question Poroshenko.
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And since you defend the Minsk agreements
                And where did you see me defending them? In what I recommended, before I write something about agreements, it is advisable to get acquainted with them. It was originally about their implementation by those for whom they were developed, that is, primarily by Ukraine, and not about who signed them. Hope clearly explained? And for the future, trolling on VO is very much not welcome.
      2. +1
        5 December 2018 17: 14
        In fact, they recognized the beautiful words about the intention of a peaceful settlement of the conflict:
        https://tass.ru/politika/1398162
        It has long been clear that intentions were empty promises. If Poroshenko then peacefully settles, then he wraps the fish, which means it is also quite reasonable with him. That's when there are so many exclamation points, on the contrary, doubt about the reasonableness of the commentator creeps in.
      3. 0
        5 December 2018 17: 15
        Credo, you are so burning that the glow is even here to seelaughing. Stitch and come back.
    6. -1
      5 December 2018 15: 48
      "If it's hard to get through to Putin, that's half the trouble. A busy person ... If Putin doesn't answer all the time or EVERYTHING is out of the network! We must run! Quickly and wherever they look without looking back!" Ancient Georgian folk wisdom.
    7. +1
      5 December 2018 19: 26
      where has he been since 2014?
    8. 0
      6 December 2018 09: 06
      Petya is in trouble, however. Trump does not want to say hello to him, Putin to talk. Where to go, where to go, to whom to surrender for three rubles? winked
  2. +11
    5 December 2018 15: 01
    Putin is doing the right thing. Too much honor for Poroshenko, and what's the point, to listen to his demands? Full ignore worse than maidanutogo .....
    1. 0
      5 December 2018 18: 35
      Quote: Alexey-74

      Putin is doing the right thing. Too much honor for Poroshenko ...

      It's not a big win to kick dirty ... you get the idea. What about "did the right thing" in meeting Trump? Or Macron? Or Netanyahu? Has anything changed for the better since 1.01.2018 in comparison with 1.01.2017? belay
      A complete "ignore" was supposed to be after the explosion of the power transmission line leading to the Crimea and the embankments made by the Poroshenko authorities in the channel of the NCC ... Ignoring should not enrage. There are plenty of demons in Russia too. The boycott should "sober up", put in place. And to listen to Putin - Russia owes everything and must, and must also be modest in everyday life, moderate in food and restrained in joy ... of course, in the person of the people ... to live long and starving, rejoicing at the imminent end ...
  3. +1
    5 December 2018 15: 02
    Petro himself .. Sam.
  4. +3
    5 December 2018 15: 03
    Ale, Vova! Ale! Vova return my three boats and 24 idiots!
  5. -32
    5 December 2018 15: 03
    Television is a great thing! Washes the brain completely. Everyone believes in provocation. But why Ukraine should not go to its ports in the Sea of ​​Azov. After all, Russia is allowed under the Turkish bridge to the Black Sea.
    1. +25
      5 December 2018 15: 06
      Deck ... Russia has never stated its intentions to undermine the bridge in Turkey, and your brothers are constantly bawing about this, including in the media ..
      By the way, the ships could pass if they complied with the legal requirements of the Russian border guards .. After all, we comply with the requirements of the Turks ..

      And the fact that the brain is washed - I have no doubt about it when I read such a comment as YOUR ...
      1. +31
        5 December 2018 15: 10
        Quote: Gardamir
        But why Ukraine can not go to their ports in the Azov Sea. After all, Russia is allowed under the Turkish bridge into the Black Sea.

        Russia a) warns Turkey 48 hours in advance, b) Russian sailors respond in case of various kinds of situations, c) Russian sailors do not yell good obscenities about "usim ships" and "help". d) if Russian sailors are told that the Bosphorus is temporarily closed, then they patiently wait for the opening of the strait, and do not repeat the text of the treaty with the Turks with parrots on the air ... And yes, as correctly noted, I have never heard from the Russian leadership calls to blow up the bridge across Bosphorus...
        1. +5
          5 December 2018 15: 18
          Quote: Volodin
          Quote: Gardamir
          But why Ukraine can not go to their ports in the Azov Sea. After all, Russia is allowed under the Turkish bridge into the Black Sea.

          Russia a) warns Turkey 48 hours in advance, b) Russian sailors respond in case of various kinds of situations, c) Russian sailors do not yell good obscenities about "usim ships" and "help". d) if Russian sailors are told that the Bosphorus is temporarily closed, then they patiently wait for the opening of the strait, and do not repeat the text of the treaty with the Turks with parrots on the air ... And yes, as correctly noted, I have never heard from the Russian leadership calls to blow up the bridge across Bosphorus...

          exhaustively Alex ... drinks
        2. +1
          5 December 2018 16: 27
          From Russian yes. Even during the USSR, the Turks imposed their pants when they were told if the USSR wanted to have more than one strait (the Bosphorus) but at least three laughing
          1. 0
            5 December 2018 19: 33
            And you are not mixed up? The USSR has not existed since 1991. And no one has canceled the budget rule in Russia.
        3. -2
          5 December 2018 16: 42
          Quote: Volodin
          Russia a) warns Turkey in 48 hours

          Why invent? There is no such requirement, warn.
          According to article 2 of the Montreux Convention, in peacetime merchant ships enjoy the right complete freedom of passage and sailing in the Straits, day and night, regardless of flag and cargo, without any formalities
          1. +3
            5 December 2018 17: 29
            This seems to be not about merchant ships.
            For warships of non-Black Sea powers, class and tonnage restrictions have been introduced. The total tonnage of military vessels of non-Black Sea states simultaneously located in the Black Sea (no more than nine vessels) must not exceed 30 thousand tons (or 45 thousand in case of an increase in the naval forces of the Black Sea countries). The duration of these ships at sea is no more than 21 days. The tonnage of vessels of one non-Black Sea country should not exceed 2 / 3 of the total tonnage of vessels of these countries located in the Black Sea. These countries must, in 15 days, notify Turkey through diplomatic channels of the passage of warships.

            https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Конвенция_о_режиме_проливов_(г._Монтре,_1936)
            1. -3
              8 December 2018 21: 40
              Your quote refers to the courts non-Black Sea powers. It does not concern Russia in any way. The military vessels of the Black Sea powers, unless they are battleships, are not obligated to notify anyone.
      2. +8
        5 December 2018 16: 03
        And if you look at the situation deeper? What does the situation say? And she says that Russia was stalled like a horse. The horse is still kicking and biting, but its fate is already a foregone conclusion! Even the Baltic states bark at her! And this indicates the toothlessness of Russia. Be different, no one would dare blather. We laugh at the Ukrainians here. But to give them a gut in Russia’s teeth! And all this is a run over to Russia, it is an indicator of the place of Russia. And according to him, the place of Russia is below the plinth! And the states didn’t lower it there! Our wise leaders lowered it there! If it were different, Ukraine would be for Russia, and not against it! And Russia shamefully blew this fight! hi Let the ura-patriots be offended, but it is. And their patriotism did not help at all.
        1. 0
          5 December 2018 16: 47
          Mr. .. When the Rottweiler was a skill, he sidestepped all the mongrels blinking at him .. and I know what would happen to them if they had the courage to attack him .. even a pack .. Do you have doubts about the capabilities of the Rottweiler? I inform you ... when it was necessary to calm a violent drunk, he, without any pathos, just bit his hand ... through and through ... and went to bed in his place.
          1. -2
            5 December 2018 17: 35
            I do not detract from the dignity of the Rottweiler. But in this case, Russia has driven itself into a corner. Now the ura-patriots, as drowning, grab onto a straw. Russia today has not bitten anyone or bitten anyone. Our president really justifies his definition as the Darkest! Well, not a damn thing or any certainty! Where is he going? What is the purpose? Such a Moses Susanin! The main thing is. But he doesn’t know where. Where the curve will lead. It has already been withdrawn from Ukraine. And in other aspects similarly. Although he has a motion vector. This is integration with the West. I just can’t understand one thing. Why do we join them? Why do not we want to hold the defense and lead the offensive? I do not see Putin confronting the West! I do not see! There is worship! There is no confrontation! For 18 years, we have not taken a single springboard. But they gave a lot! To be honest, it’s already sick of Russian politics. Some concessions and defeats. Well, after all, we are stupidly surrendering! We are special Russians! In what? Only heard joint projects! This alone we can not pull! Well disgusting to impossibility! I won’t pull my wife alone! Need help from neighbors! And many already agree with this! Reformatting of consciousness has already happened! And this is being touted as patriotism! Well, nevertheless, neighbors are invited for their beloved wife! And I'm worse !? Well, where is Russian pride - Yes, only I can do it! But not her! It's impossible! There are all the neighbors asking for help! And I ask for help! I can not alone! All! Reformat happened! This is clearly visible in VO. Already many refuse to hold the defense. Everyone does it, we can’t do it alone !!! So who are the traitors and who are the patriots? Those who rely on neighbors, or those who rely on themselves? I look here a lot of pseudo-patriots hoping for the West. Now again those who will begin to convince of the inevitability of globalization will fly back. But how is globalization useful to you personally? A world government like the IMF? Or like the UN? How did these organizations help you personally?
          2. +2
            5 December 2018 18: 49
            Quote: dvina71
            when it was necessary to calm a violent drunk, he, without any pathos, just bit his hand ...

            There was an affair on Lake Red. They also brought the Rottweiler there, and he ran without a leash and a muzzle. Three guys were sitting on the beach. When he approached them, the owner was asked to follow the rules for walking dogs in a public place. The owner was smart. He knew the capabilities of the Rottweiler and began to express his disdain and contempt for the trinity. With the words: "Well, here, there will always be a hamlo that will defile the rest", - one of the resting people took out a barrel and shot the dog with his mouth open, and the owner (the second resting man) loaded his foot into a tambourine. I never saw them again, and the dog's corpse lay on the shore for some time ...
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        2. -1
          5 December 2018 17: 00
          Quote: Mr Credo
          And if you look at the situation deeper? What does the situation say? And she says that Russia was stalled like a horse. The horse is still kicking and biting, but its fate is already a foregone conclusion! Even the Baltic states bark at her! And this indicates the toothlessness of Russia. Be different, no one would dare blather. We laugh at the Ukrainians here. But to give them a gut in Russia’s teeth! And all this is a run over to Russia, it is an indicator of the place of Russia. And according to him, the place of Russia is below the plinth! And the states didn’t lower it there! Our wise leaders lowered it there! If it were different, Ukraine would be for Russia, and not against it! And Russia shamefully blew this fight! hi Let the ura-patriots be offended, but it is. And their patriotism did not help at all.

          Everything is correct. Besides patriotism. Patriotism has nothing to do with it, here you need to judge by deeds. Who is for the country, and who is for the power (for some reason, considering that the power is the country). Well, that's not the point. I will support the topic. Here is Mr. Putin declares: "The fact is that I do not want to take part in his election campaign." So it's too late already. So it was necessary to declare in 2014, and now everything is over, that train has left, you cannot catch up. And whether Mr. Putin with the "best choice" or will not talk within the framework of the current electoral campaign (and within the framework of the previous one Putin supported, hence the "best choice"), it makes no difference. We are already accepting it, the whole country, unless, of course, Mr. Putin has in mind something about himself that we do not yet know. Because the issue of relations between the Russian Federation and Ukraine exerts its strongest influence on the electoral campaign, and without the talks between the two presidents. And not in our (RF) favor. Not in ours, because the winner in the current elections is the one who shows himself to be a big Russophobe. Hello to those who are waiting for it to resolve itself. On the contrary, it will flare up if even greater Russophobes come to power, there is someone to throw firewood and add kerosene to it. And if this requires more provocation, there will definitely be as much as necessary, and so will be. And the worst thing is that in this situation, we do not set the direction of the process, because the opportunity to influence is lost, but only forced to react to the situation. Which obviously puts us in a losing position. Because we are constantly forced to choose between two evils and both solutions, which is called worse. There is even a story with boats. Wouldn't detain - weaklings. Detained - violated international law (the West thinks so, not me) get extra. sanctions. Which is better, I personally don't know. Further. Now the West tells us, immediately return the boats and Ukrainian sailors, or you will know what. Again, both options are worse. Let's bring back weaklings. We will not return, again add. sanctions, states are worn with their fleets, Trump did not meet with GDP. (maybe something important for the countries and could have discussed, or maybe not, I don't know. But there are consequences). Which is better, I personally don't know. You can't win by always choosing from the worst two, but losing is easy. Therefore, I agree that we (the Russian Federation) are being "driven by flags."
          1. +2
            6 December 2018 03: 57
            Clever comment. I support! hi
        3. 0
          5 December 2018 17: 51
          There are many, many problems in Russia, inside, but not outside. Ukraine (that is, the future remnants) has no normal "for Russia" ... Only the fate of Greece or some kind of appendage like "round timber and or future victims of the Bandera war"
          1. +2
            5 December 2018 18: 58
            Quote: Alex Nevs
            There are many problems in Russia, very many, inside, but not outside.

            In Russia, there are many internal problems because of the constant "scampering" of the authorities from side to side. The power, which has made support in the development of the economy not on production, but on speculation. All the external problems of Russia lie in the fact that she is trying to show her face in front of those who turn her back on her, and those who extend her a hand of friendship and show sympathy and recognition stand backwards and still strive to foist a bill of exchange.
            And about the alliance between Russia and Belarus, cobbled together from reservations, I do not speak at all. Please name me the world leaders who were "not guilty" before Putin. There are such? I know who are grateful. Their gratitude is generously watered with the blood of Russian soldiers. But who besides ... what
          2. 0
            6 December 2018 04: 07
            Who will be for Russia if it gave Gorbachev a kick for everyone to accelerate? They themselves kicked in due time, and now weep, We for what !? The more we pushed, the worse for us. During the Second World War, we were opposed by many countries. Today confronts even more. Can we butt with the whole world? No. For butting, alternative organizations must be created. That is the whole question of confrontation. hi
    2. +7
      5 December 2018 15: 09
      Yeah, especially if you imagine that the Russian ship went to the Bosphorus without the "go-ahead" for that. Immediately will be at the impoundment. Rules - there are rules. They only work between adequate people.
    3. +7
      5 December 2018 15: 10
      In my opinion, and you washed. Who bothered the first troughs? Request, permission and go. But his Wishlist and the rules of pozhalsta with him.
    4. +5
      5 December 2018 15: 12
      Quote: Gardamir
      Television is a great thing! Washes the brain completely. Everyone believes in provocation. But why Ukraine should not go to its ports in the Sea of ​​Azov. After all, Russia is allowed under the Turkish bridge to the Black Sea.

      You simply confuse the round with the square and do not know the rules of navigation, including warships, which is why the propaganda of the official media of Ukraine causes such sympathy.
    5. +4
      5 December 2018 15: 17
      But not with open guns, but not with silence for requests, but as it should be in accordance with the maritime charter. And the ships of Ukraine passed (military) and no one said a word to them when they did everything right. You understand very well. And on the topic, he sent so much crap to Russia, Russians and Putin that anyone would not talk to him, for this they kick him in the snout.
    6. -14
      5 December 2018 15: 23
      I offer all those who criticize to continue the conversation
      https://topwar.ru/150763-o-vozmozhnoj-kapituljacii-moskvy.html#comment-id-8840477
      1. -1
        5 December 2018 15: 32
        And what did I not see there (according to your link)? Your bunch of "everything is gone" .. already got everyone.
        1. +2
          5 December 2018 16: 03
          Quote: Nasr
          And what did I not see there (according to your link)? Your bunch of "everything is gone" .. already got everyone.

          The same, however, as yours, with whom: everything is fine, beautiful marquise. Here we have mutual "love". hi Of course you would like to discuss this topic with my grandfather from Biysk from a famous video. This one was asked (for moderators, I replaced swear words, but the word itself, mat means, but it’s not one):
          "Tell us about the tree. Do you like the tree?"

          Well, we got the answer:

          - and. Yes. and I get 10 pensions for 10000 years.

          2 higher educations. received a pension of 10000.

          5000 per apartment. what i live on. I’m eating up a mat without salt.

          I like the Christmas tree.

          Christmas tree, mat, I like it.

          The video, so as not to receive a "hello" from the moderators, I do not dare to spread it, whoever wants to will find it himself.
    7. +7
      5 December 2018 15: 32
      Do you seriously think that our, for example, the missile cruiser "Moskva" overcomes the Bosphorus without prior notice, without escorting Turkish border boats and not responding to signals and messages from the military of the Turkish Republic ??? Thus, the world war would have already begun 100 times
      1. -7
        5 December 2018 15: 46
        Do you seriously think
        The argument is about nothing. None of my opponents, like no one showed me any documents, and trust Putin to not respect yourself.
    8. +2
      5 December 2018 17: 22
      Russian ships are allowed everywhere, because they are not trying to penetrate secretly, creating a provocative situation.
      Quote: V.V. Putin
      What objections can there be if the ship's logbook expressly states that these ships are tasked to secretly penetrate our territorial waters and secretly pass the Kerch Strait?

      Before that, we went to our ports, everything was fine, but before the elections did you have to pass secretly? Yes, television is a great thing. Ukrainian television is the greatest! TV tower!
      1. -4
        5 December 2018 17: 26
        and before the election
        or before surrendering the islands?
  6. +1
    5 December 2018 15: 08
    Very correct words BB! Briefly and clearly ..., like: "and go Petro to the farm ..."
  7. +5
    5 December 2018 15: 09
    The subscriber is temporarily unavailable or is out of range ........ And what to say with drunks, he will again cry drunk about the hard life of the executioner of his people.
  8. +5
    5 December 2018 15: 15
    there’s just nothing to talk about with the lying bastard who is killing the people of Donbass, it’s generally better to deal with such well-trained snipers.
  9. 0
    5 December 2018 15: 16
    The answer from the category ... that you are what you ... I have nothing to do with it ... for a long time it will not work
  10. -1
    5 December 2018 15: 22
    . The refusal of Vladimir Putin from telephone conversations with him, Poroshenko declared "a refusal to attempt to de-escalate the situation."

    Maybe Poroshenko wanted to propose a peace treaty, like the Japanese with the islands. But Putin did not pick up the phone. Ay-yay. Such proposals are "not received twice." I would change my phone number. Otherwise it will be like Shinzo Abe
    1. 0
      5 December 2018 15: 26
      Like the Japanese with the islands, there’s nothing to even talk about! But if Pedro, in solidarity with his sailors, is asked to surrender ...
  11. +1
    5 December 2018 15: 32
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    At first he threatened, asked if they knew at the other end of the wire who was coming for him, called for Nat and demanded satisfaction.

    So Zolotov probably was laughing
    1. +1
      5 December 2018 15: 47
      Have you seen the commander of the Rosguard drunk?
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  12. +4
    5 December 2018 15: 33
    Quote: Volodin
    Quote: Gardamir
    But why Ukraine can not go to their ports in the Azov Sea. After all, Russia is allowed under the Turkish bridge into the Black Sea.

    Russia a) warns Turkey 48 hours in advance, b) Russian sailors respond in case of various kinds of situations, c) Russian sailors do not yell good obscenities about "usim ships" and "help". d) if Russian sailors are told that the Bosphorus is temporarily closed, then they patiently wait for the opening of the strait, and do not repeat the text of the treaty with the Turks with parrots on the air ... And yes, as correctly noted, I have never heard from the Russian leadership calls to blow up the bridge across Bosphorus...

    I support. To pass through the Bosphorus, certain requirements must also be observed - the presence of anchors, life rafts and boats. This is checked visually by the pilotage service of Turkey. There was a moment when our ship lost its anchor in Middle-earth and had to make it from emergency bars, paint it with black and voila ...
    1. +3
      5 December 2018 15: 40
      I would add here that worrying about the safe passage of foreign ships, the Russian side DEMANDS the presence of our pilots on board. What if they don’t go there and crash into the bridge? Who will they repair the ship? RF? Fuck. And so everything is decorum and noble. The pilot will hold the handle and start swimming further ....
  13. +1
    5 December 2018 15: 44
    Quote: Topotun
    I would add here that worrying about the safe passage of foreign ships, the Russian side DEMANDS the presence of our pilots on board. What if they don’t go there and crash into the bridge? Who will they repair the ship? RF? Fuck. And so everything is decorum and noble. The pilot will hold the handle and start swimming further ....


    That's right, and it is the pilot who bears all responsibility for his wiring. He is provided with all the data on the maneuvering elements of the vessel before starting the wiring ....
    1. +1
      5 December 2018 18: 03
      In addition to all this, the pilot is also a representative of the port administration. It controls the serviceability of the vessel, the compliance of skippers with navigation rules, port and other rules, legislation. In case of violations, he has the right to stop the ship and report to the administration.
  14. +2
    5 December 2018 15: 49
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    At first he threatened, asked if they knew at the other end of the wire who was coming for him, called for Nat and demanded satisfaction.

    So Zolotov probably was laughing

    Bad joke
  15. 0
    5 December 2018 16: 01
    Putin has every word balanced and polished. Nice to listen to him.
  16. +4
    5 December 2018 16: 38
    Putin did not participate in his campaign either. Where is he still for Poroshenko.
  17. +1
    5 December 2018 17: 44
    And who is this Pat Maldivian to allocate the PRESIDENTIAL time for him? This time, well, it’s very expensive, so it’s kind of croaking ..... there’s nothing even to turn around.
  18. 0
    5 December 2018 18: 07
    "The point is not that I just evade and do not want to talk to Pyotr Alekseevich, that is not the point. The point is that I do not want to take part in his election campaign." - The words of our GDP. And why did you recognize him as the president of Ukraine at all !!!?
  19. -2
    5 December 2018 18: 17
    President of Russia:
    "This is a simple combination, and I do not want to take part in these combinations and I will not." Probably offended deeply. This is not the same as being beaten by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbas! And people REALLY die every other day, everyone !!! I could have sucked this tovarischa! Could .. take and unsubscribe somewhere in Telegram - as everyone does. Express your attitude towards him in letters. And then, refer to them.
  20. 0
    5 December 2018 18: 25
    “Poroshenko himself said earlier that“ the postponement of the elections is in the interests of Putin. ”... If this is so, then Petrushka is Putin's agent. Logically, if there are no elections, then it is Petrushka that remains in power as the President of Absurdistan!
  21. +3
    5 December 2018 18: 32
    Petro Poroshenko’s statements that he is trying to contact him, but each time he receives a refusal from the Kremlin.

    An old template designed for PR and screaming in the "world media" ..
    Putin is well informed who such a garret lad Poroshenko-Waltzman .. AND EVERYTHING!

    Very soon, everything will be decided, here men do not go to the grandmother .... Oh, quick, as all this is already annoying terribly soldier

    The main calm, do not succumb to the provocation. hi
  22. +2
    5 December 2018 19: 26
    It was necessary to stop communicating back in 2014, as with a person who came to power as a result of an illegal armed coup, but, what about, the interests of Russian business in Ukraine. Funny to read.
  23. +1
    5 December 2018 20: 12
    Basically true! At this stage of the dynamics of the "Ukraine" situation, it is inappropriate for the Russian President to "contact" the decommissioned (95% probability, IMHO) "lame duck", let it be "cooked up in its own ... content" ?! winked
  24. 0
    6 December 2018 06: 12
    In general, delicately sent this buffoon on.
  25. 0
    6 December 2018 09: 59
    There are two ways to save Ukraine: realistic and fantastic. Fantastic - if they normalize everything themselves, Realistic aliens will fly in or Russians will come and help ...
  26. 0
    7 December 2018 10: 57
    The Russian president reacts this way because his conscience is gnawing - he missed Ukraine, surrendered Mariupol to the Sumerians in order to please Akhmetov, and now there are no more means of influence but to fight.

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