Washington issued an ultimatum to Moscow: in the spirit of the Cold War

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US authorities said they were preparing to withdraw from the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF) within two months. According to the United States Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the United States will exit, "if Russia does not return to its execution."





This statement by the US foreign minister is in fact an ultimatum to Moscow, and its requirements are a priori impracticable for the simple reason that Moscow has repeatedly stated that the INF Treaty does not violate. Washington does not hide the fact that they are ready to speak with the Russian Federation exclusively in the ultimatum order.

From Mr. Pompeo’s statement at a press conference at NATO Headquarters:
The United States declares that Russia has violated the provisions (of the treaty), and is going to stop fulfilling its obligations under the INF Treaty, if within 60 days Moscow does not return to its full implementation. Russia has every chance of this, and we will welcome it. Until the end of the 60-day period, we still will not produce and place systems prohibited by the contract.


Recall that the contract was signed by the heads of the United States and the USSR in 1987 year. Statements by the current US administration to withdraw from the treaty even in the US Congress were criticized. In the US Senate, Washington’s exit from the INF Treaty is called a “gift of Russia,” since “Russia will be able to produce and deploy any missiles where it wants.”

This situation causes the greatest stress in Europe. After all, the Europeans understand that first of all the United States will transfer medium and shorter range missiles (from 500 to 5500 km) to the European continent. Russia will not leave this step unanswered, and the countries of the continent will once again become the main targets for the Russian missiles - “in the best traditions” of the Cold War.
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  1. +15
    5 December 2018 05: 51
    Frenzied bipeds!
    1. +20
      5 December 2018 05: 58
      They are, of course, fucked up. But the world is one step closer to a great war. Probably the last in the history of mankind. And the worst thing is that this is done quite consciously. And this is scary. Scary is not for itself. For children, for grandchildren. Do those who rule the destinies of the world really have no such fear? Suicide ends alone. If the lives of innocents are deliberately taken, this is terrorism. Planetary terrorism.
      1. +25
        5 December 2018 06: 06
        Quote: Stalevar
        But the world is one step closer to a great war. Probably the last in the history of mankind.

        Of course, I am adequate and "the whole world in dust" is not my principle. But America is confidently moving in this direction. Are they hoping to sit behind the Big Puddle? Yes, not a fig! Enough for everyone.

        It’s a pity that the Airborne Forces in that last war will not get a place, otherwise I would once again reduce my battalion to combat ...
        1. +14
          5 December 2018 06: 18
          How can’t get it, don’t worry ... the mess will begin, everyone will get the place! There will be no instant kirdyk, we’ll have to fight all the more .. moreover, we’ve got triebaltos with polyshops near us, and we’ll drop VDVshnikov on them .. soldier )))
          1. +16
            5 December 2018 06: 35
            Quote: igorka357
            especially at our side triebalt with polyshkory

            I don’t even need a machine gun - I’ll just open my weapons cabinet. Son, grandson - I'll arm everyone. And somewhere else, half the platoon will remain.
            1. +3
              5 December 2018 08: 47
              Well, this is not against the striped, there other systems are needed. But calling their liberals to order and putting them in a stall is quite suitable. hi
              1. +5
                5 December 2018 13: 25
                In general, I am not at all surprised at the ultimatum statements of Pompeo, the US Secretary of State, against Russia. He knows that which he does not negotiate and does not speak at all. Namely.

                Well, in what country of the world have you seen that a country's victory in a war is possible if its law on the Central Bank and its Constitution are drawn up by their enemy and act according to the rules and to the benefit of their enemy aggressor ?! How does this take place in the Russian Federation!
                Hence the arrogant confidence of Pompeo.
                And in Russia the people of the IMF (the structure of the US Federal Reserve System) are in power by law: i.e. "Marketers" are Westerners such as Kudrin with "kudrinyats" and the Higher School of Economics, Nabiulin in the Central Bank of Russia, Medvedev in the Russian government - and indeed, the entire Russian oligarchic "trade union" is in power with its "eggs" in the West!
                1. +1
                  5 December 2018 18: 40
                  Tatyana! love love

                  Its .... they are all! Only we and our boys are reliable, but I have not been hoping for power since Brezhnev’s time. But Medvedik is a traitor. To shoot - it’s a pity to shoot bullets. Two fingers strangle .....
          2. -13
            5 December 2018 06: 36
            Quote: Stalevar
            .... the world is one step closer to a big war. Probably the last in the history of mankind. And the worst thing is that this is done quite consciously. And this is scary. Scary is not for itself. For children, for grandchildren. Do those who rule the destinies of the world really have no such fear? ...

            The newspaper Pravda wassat
            No, this is a speech on school political information. good laughing

            When a person has nothing to say, he begins to declare slogans previously heard.
            1. +5
              5 December 2018 07: 10
              I did not find this slogan in the newspaper
        2. +6
          5 December 2018 06: 22
          Eh ... I would join ... With my battery ... At least give them to the end that they deserve ...
      2. +10
        5 December 2018 06: 44
        They have been engaged in terrorism of the planet for a long time, so for them this is the main profession. And their behavior now is just that, because they still can’t live, gigantic debts have increased, there are no new sources of robbery, the empire is moving to collapse .. the only thing that can solve this is a big war with another redivision of the world ..
        1. +9
          5 December 2018 07: 23
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          empire is heading for collapse ..

          humanity is moving towards a shortage of energy
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          no new sources of robbery

          yes the Indians are over, the land is overpopulated by consumers
          Quote: yu-xnumx
          the only thing that can solve this issue is a big war with another redivision of the world ..

          this question can be solved by another social project, like the USSR-2, you just have to take it and set an example of success
      3. +2
        5 December 2018 11: 59
        "Those who govern the destinies of the world" began to resemble airplane pilots in the First World War, flying in their "Formans" and "Sopwiches" like the so-called "head-to-head" ram. As a rule, it never came to a collision, and the one whose endurance was weaker died, and he turned away from the collision at the last moment, losing his composure.
    2. +16
      5 December 2018 05: 59
      Quote: Olegater
      Frenzied bipeds!

      It has already been made clear that they will withdraw from the contract. It’s time to prepare and deploy our missiles where we are comfortable, without regard to this regional committee soldier
      1. +12
        5 December 2018 06: 22
        And where is it convenient for us? Within its borders? Previously, even though Cuba was, right now I think even Venezuela will not agree, because there people with brains, unlike Caucasians, understand in Venezuela that if there are Russian missiles, then it will be the target number one! But Europe doesn’t smoke a campaign that it will live the least in the event of an exchange of blows, and as soon as it does not reach them that they are written down in consumables, in cannon fodder ... Russia will fight against the USA .. cast, they will have to be crushed immediately and hard, so that the mongrel under your feet do not get confused!
        1. +2
          5 December 2018 06: 49
          Quote: igorka357
          But Europe is not smoking a hike,
          She eats everything, just nobody brought cookies recourse , and Europe would be organized long ago and burned the wheels feel
        2. +2
          5 December 2018 07: 25
          Quote: igorka357
          And where is it convenient for us? Within its borders?

          Why not?
          Given that NATO’s infrastructure has helpfully moved closer to our borders for years
      2. GRF
        +7
        5 December 2018 06: 26
        Quote: 41 REGION
        Quote: Olegater
        Frenzied bipeds!

        It has already been made clear that they will withdraw from the contract. It’s time to prepare and deploy our missiles where we are comfortable, without regard to this regional committee soldier

        Intereno, they announced a competition with the urks, who will break more contracts? And what prize?
        1. +1
          5 December 2018 07: 17
          prize - by bread, from the foot wink
      3. +3
        5 December 2018 06: 42
        Quote: 41 REGION
        It has already been made clear that they will withdraw from the contract. It’s time to prepare and deploy our missiles where we are comfortable, without regard to this regional committee

        I even know exactly where - so that Washington's scabies will start. Where our missiles have already been - in Cuba. I personally know many, as we call them among ourselves, "holidaymakers" ...

    3. +29
      5 December 2018 06: 15
      Well, why the frenzied !? Consecutive! Passed the social camp, the Union. There was the expulsion of diplomats and the arrest of the embassy, ​​and the Olympics, and the last major change was the outskirts. We have not defended our interests anywhere. So they are squeezing. And why not squeeze if the enemy is toothless! So we are reaping the fruits of our friendship. As soon as they abandoned the fight against them and went on the rails of peaceful coexistence, so it went, it went! Once they abandoned the struggle, then there is no strength. If you do not answer today, then there is no strength. That's the whole logic of their behavior!
    4. +12
      5 December 2018 06: 24
      Apparently the INF Treaty will cease to exist, and Russia will face new sanctions and a new arms race. We return to the end of the 80s of the last century. I really do not want this, but how to avoid this is not clear. Even concessions from Russia, as history has already shown, will only lead to new requirements and ultimatums. It feels like the world is heading into the abyss.
      1. +10
        5 December 2018 07: 29
        Quote: bystander
        We return to the end of the 80s of the last century.

        In the mid-80s of the last century, the USSR was on the verge of a new economic structure, new interesting industries were laid .... but in parallel there was a process of betrayal and the collapse of the country. Since the late 70s, inflation in the USA has been up to 12% per year. We almost defeated them. BUT they introduced agents into our leadership and played Perestroika as if by sheet music! The trouble is that no one is carrying out Anti-Perestroika.
    5. +1
      5 December 2018 11: 56
      Frenzied bipeds!


      Not a bit fucked up. They act according to a purposeful plan - first to poison Russia, and then China and all the rest. And not the fact that they will not succeed - Russia today does not have an ideology that would unite people. In relation to people today, the Russian Federation is the same soulless, capitalist state as the United States. Only economically does not reach the USSR and the latter's ability to pursue a tough policy.
    6. 0
      5 December 2018 14: 12
      Now you can sleep peacefully - we are doing everything right.
  2. +6
    5 December 2018 05: 55
    Europeans understand that the first thing the United States will deploy medium- and shorter-range missiles is to the European continent. Russia will not leave this step unanswered, and the countries of the continent will once again become the main goals for Russian missiles

    For that fought for it and ran.
    It was necessary to think before acquiring an "elder friend".
    1. +5
      5 December 2018 06: 16
      They did not acquire them, the "elder friend" simply occupied them!
  3. +4
    5 December 2018 05: 57
    Yes, they wanted to spit on this geyropu. Here the goal is to spoil us.
  4. +6
    5 December 2018 06: 02
    Rates are rising ... How do we respond? Pass or ... answer?
    1. +7
      5 December 2018 06: 36
      Something else, strengthening the strategic nuclear forces, increasing the number of combat duty of carriers of nuclear weapons, the entire triad! Demonstration exercises of strategic nuclear forces, with launches. It would be desirable to show the Poseidon, at least from afar ... faces of the earth, that would be great! But otherwise we will not answer anything, neither economically nor politically! Only the Russian strategic forces keep the Americans from war with us, only guaranteed retaliatory destruction keeps them in check, but they are losing their heads already, not there is even an hour when they believe in their safety, and therefore every time they need to be reminded and shown "We will destroy you in return, UNIVERSAL" .. By the way, there is a version that the Americans once already believed that they could destroy the Russians without much damage for myself, they say, the equipment is old, the army is in ruin, the crews and commanders are not trained .. but as you know, "Novomoskovsk" showed that there will not be an easy victory, or rather, it will not be an easy victory for the amers at all .. is it a joke that 16 mbr went to the goal in minutes .. Butthese are just versions ..
      1. 0
        5 December 2018 07: 31
        Quote: igorka357
        It would be desirable to show "Poseidon"

        Better yet, really apply a low power charge !!!!!!! angry
  5. +9
    5 December 2018 06: 02
    The counter proposal during those 60 days, the Baltic countries withdraw from NATO and remove NATO forces from the territory, anti-ballistic missiles from Romania and Poland are removed, the Americans are removed from Ukraine and Georgia. then we will decide on missiles.
    1. +1
      5 December 2018 12: 55
      Quote: Conductor
      The counter proposal during those 60 days, the Baltic countries withdraw from NATO and remove NATO forces from the territory, anti-ballistic missiles from Romania and Poland are removed, the Americans are removed from Ukraine and Georgia. then we will decide on missiles.

      NATO troops and anti-missile complexes in the EU, as they "clean up" - they will easily "return"! After all, the infrastructure for them in the West has already been practically created and no one is going to remove them - on the contrary, it continues to be created there!

      Our main enemy is located overseas - the USA! As he was, he will remain so.
      It is against the United States that urgent military and political measures must be taken so that life after TMV does not personally seem like "sugar" to them.
  6. +5
    5 December 2018 06: 03
    when you regret leaving Cuba and our lack of military personnel in Nicaragua and Venezuela.
  7. +3
    5 December 2018 06: 03
    And you want and inject, they want to test our reaction, or maybe they expect that the GDP will talk about something else. smile
    1. +2
      5 December 2018 07: 20
      Her. The United States simply wants to withdraw from this treaty. But they didn’t want an ultimatum of type, but they had to. And Europe seems to have no choice but to die for the owner in the forefront
  8. 0
    5 December 2018 06: 13
    The ultimatum is when such a feint does not pass against the wall and the colt in the face with Russia, the cowboys will taste the good and sharp horn .....
    1. +4
      5 December 2018 06: 21
      They think they have pinned the outskirts to the wall. They haven’t tried Rogatins yet and haven’t raked them. But they do not stop biting the bear. And the flock gathered around is not small.
    2. +4
      5 December 2018 06: 40
      And what will be the stag beetle, there is no Cuba, Venezuela is not Fool like the Caucasians! What is the stag beetle? Only by facts, not idle talk! Except as a demonstration of nuclear power, there is nothing for us to answer, in conventional armaments and on the technological equipment of the army, we unfortunately we concede to the Americans, we have not so many allies, and also say not particularly advanced militarily, I generally will not say anything about the fleet, okay ?!
      1. +2
        5 December 2018 07: 23
        Well, at least we take more people with us to the next world. Someone said: we do not need a world without Russia.
      2. +1
        5 December 2018 07: 30
        Geography, respected, geography ....
        Globe, curvimeter, distance from, for example, Kaliningrad to Ramstein
      3. +3
        5 December 2018 07: 31
        If it’s real, then we don’t have allies ...............
      4. +1
        5 December 2018 09: 02
        Quote: igorka357
        And what will be the stag
        And what do you say staghorn? And in whom Putin will bet, if he only forgets about the close oligarchs and about his people, then a priori he will lose to the West and he will win with our people and with the slings, something like that ...
    3. +2
      5 December 2018 08: 51
      The hypersonic staghorn of course that you are so kinked laughing
  9. +3
    5 December 2018 06: 20
    Americans should be sent in plain text to hell with their ultimatum
  10. +4
    5 December 2018 06: 24
    statement by the head of the US foreign department is actually an ultimatum
    All the American dirty trick lies in the fact that the decision to withdraw from the treaty has been made and taken finally, but lastly another American prank in the form of a direct ultimatum. The "exceptional" just need to show their "allies" how "powerful and terrible" they are that they can afford to openly threaten Russia and make demands. In a word, down and out ruffians.
  11. -2
    5 December 2018 06: 25
    America can afford to talk to us with ultimatums, they are a superpower, and we sank below the baseboard
    1. +2
      5 December 2018 06: 47
      No need to dramatize too much. Of course there is a feeling that the world is heading into the abyss, but in the foreseeable future, the United States will not be able to do anything with Russia militarily. Nuclear weapons are a very good deterrent.
      1. -4
        5 December 2018 06: 59
        Quote: passerby
        No need to dramatize too much. Of course there is a feeling that the world is heading into the abyss, but in the foreseeable future, the United States will not be able to do anything with Russia militarily. Nuclear weapons are a very good deterrent.
        In order to use nuclear weapons, it is necessary that the Kremlin have super steel eggs, and as history shows, they do not have steel, but Faberge hang out, and where to beat it with nuclear weapons? - in the USA and Europe? so there have long been the children of our VIP officials live with their bank accounts and real estate
        1. 0
          5 December 2018 08: 11
          Quote: pro000007
          so there have long been the children of our VIP officials live with their bank accounts and real estate

          And they have no business here request When checking it turns out that even just in a store buy a chocolate bar for a child belay it's their business, so here we are even request
        2. 0
          5 December 2018 09: 23
          And in this regard, will they wait until they are put against the wall or bombed by the "lights of democracy"? If it comes to war, no one will look at children and property. At least, these issues could not be stopped by any of the world wars on earth, and neither children nor business in the enemy country have ever stopped anyone.
          1. -2
            5 December 2018 10: 02
            Of course, they won’t wait when they are bombed, dumped from the country, or most likely agree to surrender while preserving some part of their capital, but they didn’t shoot the labeled bear, well, they won’t shoot them (local natives will come in handy in the occupation administration)
            1. 0
              5 December 2018 10: 46
              There is no logic in your assumption. The question immediately arises, why did they bring the situation to conflict if they have such a chocolate relationship with the West that they can dump it there or agree on surrender? What prevented the earlier dump or agree. I do not see any logic.
              Quote: pro000007
              Of course, they won’t wait when they are bombed, dumped from the country, or most likely agree to surrender while preserving some part of their capital, but they didn’t shoot the labeled bear, well, they won’t shoot them (local natives will come in handy in the occupation administration)
              1. -2
                5 December 2018 10: 52
                the fact that you do not see logic is your problem, but you brought it ... because of your low intelligence, you wanted to prove that they are an equal to the Western aristocracy, that their place is next to them at the table, and not in the servant’s room
                1. 0
                  5 December 2018 11: 08
                  Very unconvincing and far-fetched.
                  Quote: pro000007
                  the fact that you do not see logic is your problem, but you brought it ... because of your low intelligence, you wanted to prove that they are an equal to the Western aristocracy, that their place is next to them at the table, and not in the servant’s room
                  1. -1
                    5 December 2018 11: 12
                    blah blah blah, I don’t see any arguments, live in your pink illusions, the dialogue is over
        3. 0
          5 December 2018 10: 56
          Nuclear war "toy" is disposable, like a condom, used only once!
          After the "game" there will be no players and spectators, and there will be no one to evaluate the result of the victory. Those who survive, resemble radioactive ash and dust for several years and die. Here is such a thing nuclear weapons!
    2. +2
      5 December 2018 06: 50
      Quote: pro000007
      , they are a superpower, and we sank below the baseboard

      If you have not forgotten, our financial system, as it were softer to say, thanks to EBN, is not entirely independent. Plus the priority of international Pgava over national ..
      It's time to remember about sovereignty ..
  12. 3vs
    +4
    5 December 2018 06: 41
    Well, you don’t scare us with ultimatums, we’ll scare anyone you want!

    "The Russian leadership may renew the agreement with the United States on the disposal of surplus weapons-grade plutonium if Washington fulfills a number of conditions.
    The agreement and its accompanying protocols can again become valid if the United States eliminates the reasons that led to a “radical change in circumstances” that existed on the day the document comes into force. In particular, the United States should:
    - reduce the military infrastructure and the size of its contingent in the territory of NATO member countries that joined the alliance after 1 on September 2000;
    - abolish the “Magnitsky law” and all sanctions imposed on certain subjects of Russia, individuals and legal entities;
    - compensate for the damage suffered by the Russian Federation as a result of these restrictions and the introduction of retaliatory measures against Washington;
    - provide a clear plan for the irreversible disposal of excess plutonium. "
    ((C) Vladimir Putin)
  13. +5
    5 December 2018 06: 54
    In fact, after a refusal to fulfill an ultimatum, a declaration of war follows. But in the American world of post-truth, as in Through the Looking Glass, there can be anything, for example, the announcement of an ultimatum for non-fulfillment of an ultimatum for a period of 60 days, and then a vote of no confidence for non-fulfillment of ultimatums. By the way, in accordance with the terms of the meaning in the American concept there is no need - the words are used to cover up the actions of the hands, like all thimbles.
  14. +1
    5 December 2018 06: 58
    Well this must be such arrogant creatures, the stigmas themselves are not just in fluff, but their entire face is smeared with it. and they translate the arrows. that’s their position. and then they ask why America is so hated
  15. -5
    5 December 2018 07: 30
    It proves once again that nobody is afraid of Russia, as the Russian media want to present us. We must admit that Russia is a weak country and avoid problems.
    1. +2
      5 December 2018 12: 23
      Quote: Stalingradpobeda
      We must admit that Russia is a weak country and avoid problems.

      laughing Somewhere we already heard it.
      “Russia is a dwarf, I will put it on its knees.” Karl 12-th, XVIII century.
      Sweden forever lost the status of a great power.

      “I will conquer backward Russia.” Friedrich, mid-18th century.
      In 1759, the Russian army entered Berlin.

      “Russia is a colossus with feet of clay.” Napoleon, 19th century.
      In 1814, the Russian army took Paris.

      “I will conquer the USSR by the end of the year.” Hitler, XX century.
      In 1945, committed suicide when the Soviet army entered Berlin.

      Who is next? ... USA with EU hangers-on?
  16. +1
    5 December 2018 08: 21
    The withdrawal from the INF Treaty is really, in fact, directed against the EU, since it even more "frightens" the Europeans with a "terrible" Russia and forces the EU to continue to keep American forces on the territory of Europe for "protection", that is, to keep NATO, plus - "revolution "In Paris, the CIA is playing against Macron, the main apologist for EuroNATO.
  17. 0
    5 December 2018 08: 25
    Predictable for the Anglo-Saxons. The last cry of the crook is "Stop the thief!" must be done from afar and loudly.
  18. 0
    5 December 2018 08: 27
    So let's see what we need and what we can!
    Shaw ahead of time to puff, we’ll sprinkle drafts on ashes or ashes, SEE!
  19. 0
    5 December 2018 08: 44
    How tired these nonsense. After all, they perfectly understand what will happen to them if the Russian Vanya takes up the club. But just like that grumpy woman can’t stop during a family scandal, so striped, they definitely need to say their own, albeit nasty, word.
  20. 0
    5 December 2018 08: 47
    Look at Mattis, and it seems that he wants to strangle these de-b-fools. Money is one thing, but getting involved in a real fight is not an ice!
  21. 0
    5 December 2018 08: 54
    I really wanted to see an article on Novator 9M729 missiles recently adopted for service on Military Review. It is because of them all the fuss.
    This ground-based missile according to US intelligence has an increased range of more than 500 km. Ours deny this, but apparently the Americans know enough about this project (at full refueling, the rocket has an approximate range of Caliber, and the design is similar). It is still complicated by the fact that this missile was launched from the Iskander complex - according to the INF Treaty, now the Americans have the right to demand the reduction and destruction of this complex, since its radius of operation has exceeded 500 km.
    Apparently our leadership will not take this step, therefore the INF Treaty is doomed. There is no smoke without fire and ... better keep your secrets ...
    1. +1
      5 December 2018 13: 47
      Quote: KachesGM
      I really wanted to see an article on Novator 9M729 missiles recently adopted for service on Military Review. It is because of them all the fuss.

      on the website of the State Department is just about her and the situation around.
  22. 0
    5 December 2018 09: 16
    Ultimate conversations are "forgotten" when the impudent gets a "face about the table".
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  24. 0
    5 December 2018 10: 04
    It certainly, culturally and diplomatically, the Americans need to answer the ultimatum, but according to street hooligan psychology, they will be hollowing us with rudeness and ultimatums until they get the answer!
    Trump, of course, is a sick person on his head, but behind him are cunning guys who play along with him.
  25. -1
    5 December 2018 10: 24
    One clown from Washington has already threatened North Korea with ultimatums.
    After these threats, it became obvious to everyone who had what "Faberge".
  26. +2
    5 December 2018 10: 40
    I read here at the top of the paratroopers - artillerymen: "fire is a battery, fire is a battalion." I served in the construction battalion,
    take care of yourself (this will take care of me), otherwise I will have to dig graves in addition to trenches (old me, I can die on a shovel). It's time for our management to answer the questions of the "American partners" with the same words (or maybe in Khrushchev's way), and not lick the star-striped anus. If we are considered a world evil, maybe it's time to become a "world evil"? not liberals or liberals interfere, but children and money and huts over the hill,
    in "damn America".
    “I do not see a single case in which Russia could resort to its nuclear potential, while the US banks are $ 500 billion owned by the Russian elite. You have to figure out whose elite is yours or is already ours. ”
    Zbigniew Brzezinski, although a Pole, but not durak (does not reproduce in Russian)
  27. 0
    5 December 2018 10: 54
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Quote: igorka357
    especially at our side triebalt with polyshkory

    I don’t even need a machine gun - I’ll just open my weapons cabinet. Son, grandson - I'll arm everyone. And somewhere else, half the platoon will remain.

    Thank. I will know who to contact .... laughing
  28. 0
    5 December 2018 11: 51
    All in the spirit of the states. Put ultimatums on what cannot be fulfilled.
  29. 0
    5 December 2018 12: 19
    )) Well, and WE WILL BE BACK TO CUBA)))) and here the illusions of the top of this GANDURAS with the name FASHINGTON are in vain!
  30. 0
    5 December 2018 12: 43
    According to the modern logic of the universal lies and denial of everything and everything - (in order to stay in the trend) - it is necessary to return the world-famous ships and their brave sailors to the JAPANESE (!), And allow Ukrainian sailors to pass without any pilots at any time of the year, day or night and permits between the islands of the Kuril ridge! Something like that!
  31. 0
    5 December 2018 13: 16
    Quote: Stalevar
    consciously. Suicide life ends alone ..


    But that's not always the case. It happens that the "leaders" of various sects, ending with suicide, take their faithful followers with them to the next world. The twentieth century has provided ample examples of this. But when governments start doing it ...
    It's hard to believe that the world has lost its mind so much. Although, the devil only knows, politics is poker, and who is bluffing here and who is playing seriously, we are not given to know. Nobody will open the cards, we have no admission. I would not be in a hurry with conclusions, and even more so with ravorchik like "hats" we will throw it. We'll throw it in, and they'll throw it at us - do you want it? Children, your grandchildren? It is ridiculous to read the posts of seemingly adults about how good it would be to fight. Go to Donbass and fight even "with weapons from your personal closet," no one bothers you, but this, of course, will be more serious than wagging with tongues here.
  32. 0
    5 December 2018 13: 22
    Everything is logical according to their long-term strategy plan
    briefly them
    BASIC PRINCIPLES
    To limit as much as possible the threat of a preventive or retaliatory military strike against the United States from one or a group of geopolitical opponents who correctly assessed the source and scale of the threat, primarily Russia and China.
    Gain exclusive access to the energy, raw materials and labor resources of both Americas, sufficient for the comfortable functioning of the US economy in a semi-autonomous mode for a long period of time. This should allow the United States to maintain internal stability and economic power in the face of the destruction of most world economic ties and even in the event of a complete economic blockade.
    To completely destabilize the Big East in order to radically limit the energy supply to the main existing and potential competitors and opponents of the United States - the EU, China, Japan, India, and Southeast Asian countries. This will not only provoke destructive economic crises in these countries and unions, but also significantly limit the ability of the economies of these countries to recover, as well as reduce their combat effectiveness.
    Provoke social, interethnic and interfaith conflicts, including large-scale acts of civil disobedience, riots, massive terrorist attacks, aggressive separatism and even civil wars, on the territory of the main existing and potential competitors and opponents of the United States. This will allow weakening state power as much as possible, causing damage to the economy and linking the military resources of these countries.
    If possible, provoke a military clash between the main existing and potential competitors and opponents of the United States among themselves or with other countries, or at least initiate numerous regional conflicts on their periphery in order to link their military and economic resources.
    To inflict a disarming military strike on countries that present a real, but still limited military threat to the United States, eliminating their military and industrial infrastructure - primarily China. To ensure economic isolation and strangulation of countries representing a full-scale military threat to the United States - primarily Russia, without getting involved with them in a real war, which could result in unacceptable damage.
    After some stabilization of the situation in the world, begin to consistently implement the new Marshall plan in the Near and Middle East, Europe, Latin America, Southeast Asia, etc., introducing new long-term political and economic mechanisms of colonial control and taxation.
    When you have to choose between bad and worst, they usually choose ... a chessboard on the head.
  33. 0
    5 December 2018 13: 42
    Quote: "The Europeans understand that the first thing the US will do is to deploy medium and shorter-range missiles (from 500 to 5500 km) to the European continent. Russia will not leave this step unanswered, and the countries of the continent will again turn into the main targets for Russian missiles -" the best traditions of the "Cold War"
    Then the question begs itself - well, what conclusions for the countries of the European continent will make for themselves and the states?
    Or will they again be prompted by Washington?
  34. 0
    5 December 2018 19: 08
    It is not clear why the Americans need this. No matter how many medium-range missiles they deploy in Europe, this will not be able to level the fundamental parity of deterrence of nuclear forces.

    Therefore, the most likely conclusion is that they are trying to impose the most unilateral (for Russia) arms race to weaken the economy. Which also seems unlikely, because at the moment it is impossible to radically change the balance of forces.

    The idea, apparently, is to force the production of new expensive weapons to be boosted with the help of an “ignored threat”. However, they would have been adopted. Therefore, such a move by the United States looks strange, they essentially achieve only a vivid demonstration of their tendency to escalate the situation. Accordingly, a gradual decrease in the level of confidence of European elites in the US.

    The situation as a whole is a classic fork: if the United States does not exert pressure, Russia is developing quietly (let me ask a question: why is it bad?), If they exert pressure, they lose ground in Europe.
    It would be better if they focused on the welfare of their own nation and the whole world in the long run, rather than running around with Russia with their tongue sticking out. The impression of activity for the sake of activity, i.e. they just don’t know what to do.
  35. +1
    5 December 2018 19: 59
    Artist Bryullov: The Last Day of Pompeii.
    Russian Defense Minister Shoigu: Last day of Pompeo. bully