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APNKSN project 955A "Prince Vladimir" went on sea trials

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The head nuclear-powered submarine strategic-purpose missile cruiser of the modified 955A project (cipher Borey-A) Prince Vladimir 28 November 2018 of the year went to sea for factory running trials, reports bmpd blog.


APNKSN project 955A "Prince Vladimir" went on sea trials

The first night exit on the factory running tests


It is reported that the nuclear underwater missile cruiser "Prince Vladimir" first came out of Severodvinsk to conduct a set of factory trials. The submarine cruiser was laid on Sevmash in Severodvinsk on July 30 2012 of the year, the output from the workshop took place on November 17 of 2017. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the transfer of the nuclear underwater missile carrier "Prince Vladimir" to the Russian Navy should take place in the 2019 year.

Currently, construction of serial submarines of the project “Prince Oleg”, “Generalissimo Suvorov”, “Emperor Alexander III” and “Prince Pozharsky” continues in Severodvinsk.

It also received information that the construction of another two Boreans of the 2018A project was included in the state armament program for 2027-955. New submarine missile carriers must be laid no later than 2024 of the year and come into operation no later than 2028. Given the construction of these two serial submarines of the 955A Borey-A project, the total number of strategic missile submarines of this project will increase to 10. It is also not excluded that after 2027, the construction of submarines for this project will continue.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 1 December 2018 14: 44
    +22
    It would be nice to build Ash trees at such a pace ... one good thing is that in building new strategists we are still ahead of the United States.
    1. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 1 December 2018 15: 04
      +8
      We are ahead of the world in building new strategists. And the United States will have the first Columbia, at best, only by 2031.
      1. Tahtvjd2868
        Tahtvjd2868 1 December 2018 15: 08
        -5
        The USA has so many Virgins and Elks + Wolves that they have our drum strategists!
        1. Sarmat Sanych
          Sarmat Sanych 1 December 2018 15: 16
          +1
          These "virgin moose" are just an empty space for us and they won't save Omeriga even by 1%. And the Russian SSBNs will destroy the Indian subcontinent directly from the pier.
          PS If Yellowstone does not do this earlier, Alaska is already going underground.
          1. Tahtvjd2868
            Tahtvjd2868 1 December 2018 15: 19
            +5
            So Ohio can shoot from the pier once such a batch goes. I'm not talking about that. I'm on the cover! There are boreas - no ashen. Will we shoot from the pier? And if in the oceans we shove there on a tail so many pelvis will sit that mother don’t grieve
            1. Sarmat Sanych
              Sarmat Sanych 1 December 2018 15: 29
              0
              Not all at once, comrade! "Ash" is the second on tests, next year we will hand it over, "Pike-B" will come out of repairs, 6 "Varshavyanka" are being built for the Pacific Fleet.
              1. Tahtvjd2868
                Tahtvjd2868 1 December 2018 15: 33
                +5
                Varshavyanki Boreamians will only help out ... and then Birey only with Pikes, but Pike are not the same ... and the Virginia and especially the Wolves are inferior .. According to a good program, it would be wise to adjust towards multi-purposeists, without them no way .. request
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 1 December 2018 15: 43
                  +7
                  Quote: Tahtvjd2868
                  it would be reasonable to correct the program in the direction of multi-talents,

                  This is a wrong opinion. Strategists are needed on a chessboard, for they are the ones that are included in the NSNF. A multipurpose boat - an application to rpksn. Of course, I would like everything at once ... But for now it does not work. That is why priorities are set.
                  1. gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 44
                    -1
                    Two SSBNs require three MAPLs, not counting the airplanes of the PLO, KPUG, Scouts, minesweepers and diesels. None of this is enough, in Kamchatka.

                    -A multi-purpose boats - an appendix to the RPKSN .-

                    No, this is a single complex. Without MAPL, these are light targets for the most snotty CBD partners, western and eastern.
                2. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 33
                  -1
                  At KTOF, it’s not Pike, but one Pike. And they will soon start cooking for repairs.
                3. Sarmat Sanych
                  Sarmat Sanych 2 December 2018 09: 13
                  +1
                  Virginia and Schuk-B have slightly different tasks, in some ways ours are ahead.
                  1. gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 19
                    -2
                    - something ahead of ours -

                    More lagging behind. Especially in the main thing - in the ability to increase operational reserves.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 1 December 2018 16: 08
              -1
              Quote: Tahtvjd2868
              So Ohio can shoot from the pier once such a batch goes.

              In the case of an exchange of blows, the United States is destroyed by 100%, and the Russian Federation only by 70% ... the territories are incommensurable, as well as the concentration of the population.
              1. Tahtvjd2868
                Tahtvjd2868 1 December 2018 16: 14
                +2
                Why do you consider only nuclear weapons in the USA? We are also angles and francis throws for the collar .. and yapov talk have something to wave. So it doesn’t shine for us to do 70% off. hi
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 1 December 2018 16: 19
                  +5
                  Quote: Tahtvjd2868
                  We are also angles and francis thrown for the collar ..

                  And the Chinese with the Indians throw them at most do not indulge. So in exchange for this, the Anglo-Saxons cannot survive from the word at all.
                  1. gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 19
                    -4
                    Both US major trading partners. Hindus supply software to the US for 50 billion euros. A little less than Gazprom and Novatek are driving the same raw materials. tongue
              2. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 46
                0
                -In the case of an exchange of blows, the United States is destroyed by 100%, and the Russian Federation only by 70% ... the territories are incommensurable, as well as the concentration of the population .-

                It’s unlikely that their specialist operators are so crazy to plan strikes with expensive ammunition in the deserted uninhabited regions of Siberia and the Far East. They read newspapers and guess where the main self-sufficient mass of the able-bodied population of Primorye and Kamchatka migrates. These are people with limited living standards in Los Angeles different from the standard of living in the city of the Yellow Devil.
                1. gor999
                  gor999 4 December 2018 07: 51
                  0
                  The troll on duty has changed. He knows the Russian language worse
              3. Comrade Beria
                Comrade Beria 1 December 2018 16: 54
                +4
                Quote: NEXUS
                In the case of an exchange of blows, the United States is destroyed by 100%, and the Russian Federation only by 70% ... the territories are incommensurable, as well as the concentration of the population.

                Arithmetic is a little different in the case of exchanging attacks and involving all nuclear arsenals.
                The United States and its allies are guaranteed to destroy life on Earth 2 times, but Russia only once.
                1. GibSoN
                  GibSoN 1 December 2018 21: 24
                  -1
                  The United States and its allies are guaranteed to destroy life on Earth 2 times, but Russia only once.
                  And all those who have not decided (India, China, Pakistan, Israel well, etc.) a couple more times! In general, what to discuss? After we talk who was brave ..
                2. Sarmat Sanych
                  Sarmat Sanych 2 December 2018 09: 25
                  +1
                  "Russian Plain" is the most seismically stable place on the planet, only Russia and Australia will survive, everything is logical. Plus, it is incorrect to just count the arsenals, because our SSBNs will easily release all SLBMs at the addresses, and the Indos ones were not initially capable of more than four each, now two are good if they can. I generally keep quiet about the Britos - since 2016 it seems like only 2 launches, 1 unsuccessfullaughing.
                  PS I do not even consider the Chinese and Indians, everything is there at the level of the 70s.
          2. askort154
            askort154 1 December 2018 15: 37
            0
            Sarmat Sanych ....A Russian SSBNs will destroy P.indostan directly from the pier ......
            Alaska is already going underground.

            What, "Russian aggression" is already in Alaska good ! Now it’s clear why Trump crying I was afraid of meeting with Putin. drinks
          3. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 21
            -8
            -A Russian SSBNs will destroy P.indostan directly from the pier .-

            Even without mooring. For gullible coastal civilian readers. Even the salag gut encoder from the seiner will not believe this.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 1 December 2018 22: 15
              +3
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Not even moving off. For gullible coastal civilian readers. In such a salaga, the intestine from the seiner will not believe.

              In vain! Maybe THIS will convince you:
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 2 December 2018 07: 00
                -4
                Every conscript knows that the first is the commander of the SSBN compound - he achieves the maximum possible operational dispersal of his forces. That is, leaving the base. In addition, one salvo of the main ammunition is demonstrated. An abnormal salvo In case of the slightest error of the hold team, the SSBN will sag, damaging the ends, hull, and the pier at the same time.
              2. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 2 December 2018 10: 53
                -1
                I’ll add. There are technical capabilities of the ship according to the project. And there are operational capabilities of the ship. In the PRS (Missile Service Rules) in the section about the SSBN, there are specific instructions and recommendations regarding permissions for firing main ammunition at the pier. Conditions, restrictions and other things are listed. Regardless of the year Editorial staff, they are unchanged. Once, for show, yes. Normally, it is impossible.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 1 December 2018 15: 21
          +4
          Ours, or yours? Who are you, decide
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 1 December 2018 16: 52
          -2
          Did you count them?
      2. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 35
        -8
        -In the construction of new strategists we are in the lead of the whole world-

        Such a construction process is briefly described in Baba Krylova's fable - the Nose was pulled out, so the tail got stuck.
        1. Sarmat Sanych
          Sarmat Sanych 2 December 2018 09: 16
          -2
          What "tail"?)) Why is this rubbishlaughing?
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 23
            -1
            They began to build a regular tail. The SSBNs began to build little by little. But without the main ammunition. We slightly corrected Bupava to be safe for the crew, lost the opportunity to hand over the project MAPL 855M to the customer in an acceptable time. Elva could get the K-560 equipped with instruments and mechanisms from Pike. With unsatisfactory acoustic The living conditions for the crews and the airbase were more or less established, but they did not complete the construction of two piers and the others described above. They could not prepare the forces of the PLO, PMO, and air defense for the new SSBNs. And so a couple of pages of only large remarks niy.
    2. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 1 December 2018 15: 20
      -2
      According to the "Gate" project, everything is not even bad ...
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 48
        -12
        This Wicket, in its current financially unsecured form, will pass more as a holey wattle fence.
        1. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 2 December 2018 05: 43
          +2
          Quote: gunnerminer
          This Wicket, in its current financially unsecured form, will pass more as a holey wattle fence.

          I authoritatively declare to you that work on the "Gate" is being carried out in the form of experimental production. I won't say in terms of quantity, but "I held it in my hands" ...
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 2 December 2018 07: 03
            -3
            -that work on the "Gate" is being carried out in the form of experimental production. -

            This means an imperfection. This product is not of any combat value, in an unfinished experimental form. Even if it is heard after 10 years, it is intended for very narrow, specific tasks, and not for disrupting the operational activities of partners' connections.
            1. Prapor-527
              Prapor-527 2 December 2018 07: 11
              +1
              We will finish the "imperfection" and the "narrow, specific task" will surprise you.
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 2 December 2018 08: 15
                -4
                -We will finish the imperfection -

                The song is famous - we’ll finish it, make it, plan it, hand it over, start it, if so. When you do it, then you will report it. Do not frighten the opponent with promises and discussion of plans.
      2. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 23
        -3
        - According to the "Gate" project, everything is not even bad ... -

        Wicket for solving narrow special problems, in a specific place, during the shortest operational period.
        1. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 2 December 2018 05: 49
          0
          Quote: gunnerminer
          - According to the "Gate" project, everything is not even bad ... -

          Wicket for solving narrow special problems, in a specific place, during the shortest operational period.

          And the Strategic Missile Forces have similar tasks. Doomsday weapon.
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 2 December 2018 07: 04
            -3
            -And the Strategic Missile Forces have similar tasks. Doomsday Weapon .-

            They act in conjunction, and the main ammunition is used regularly, in one gulp. And not like -Wicket-, besides unfinished.
          2. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 2 December 2018 10: 54
            -2
            -And the Strategic Missile Forces has similar tasks .-

            Much wider. In operational and technical sense. Including in terms of support.
    3. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 42
      -6
      Neither Yaseni nor Kalina with Lada will be able to build at such a pace. Shipbuilders cannot build comprehensively. And every year their skills are lost. The attempt of Sevmash’s leadership to solve the personnel problem by recruiting conscripts to start-up companies is reminiscent of campaigns. The growth of educational institutions to train skilled workers and no one is puzzled by the technicians.


      -It is good that in the construction of new strategists we are still ahead of the United States .-

      If you don’t go into details. The USA will provide its SSBNs with new buildings with adequate marine and land infrastructure. And with such high intelligence and all types of defense. Only a year and a half after the arrival of the first Boreev corps to Kamchatka, new lifting units were installed for loading and unloading the main ammunition , this was accompanied by the titanic efforts of the representatives of Gostekhnadzor, who sought the maximum guaranteed safety of their operation. Transhipment stations are located in Primorye. Kamchatsky emontny center, despite the efforts and cavalry assaults Rogozin and Sergei Shoigu, never zarabotal.Dlya PLO Boreas remained two and a half obsolete Varshavyanka, two Il-38H and one Tu-142M.
      1. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 1 December 2018 20: 50
        +4
        IL-38N seven, Tu-142MK / MZ twelve. Why lie?
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 1 December 2018 22: 18
          -3
          -IL-38N seven, Tu-142MK / MZ twelve. Why lie? -

          To all fleets. At KTOF the number of combat-ready LA indicated by mezer indicated by me, taking into account the size of the operating zone.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 2 December 2018 02: 00
            +2
            But still. Why lie?
            But overall it’s not bad at all. Both terms and language are quite decent.
            Do not reduce the intensity of the revelations.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 2 December 2018 07: 05
              -3
              But still. Why lie?
  2. rruvim
    rruvim 1 December 2018 14: 45
    +6
    Seven years for the construction of a serial ship (submarine) with "fine-tuning" is a very long time.
    1. prapor55
      prapor55 1 December 2018 14: 54
      +8
      Yes, long and long, but agree, this is good news.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 December 2018 14: 57
      +6
      Quote: rruvim
      Seven years for the construction of a serial ship (submarine) with "fine-tuning" is a very long time.

      Borey-A is not quite serial. Initially, they planned to build Boreev-A, if sclerosis doesn’t fail me. 3. After that they were planning to build Borey-B. But they refused to build Borey-B. In fact, the Northwind project itself is of limited production. I suppose that even the submarines of the Borey-A series will differ from each other.
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 51
        -5
        That the other modifications, as well as their crews, are not even provided with a minimum anti-aircraft defense in the near zone. Not to mention the distant. Given the start of construction of diesel engines with VNEU and LIAB in Japan and South Korea. Which will greatly facilitate the opening of routes for the American crews, SSBN patrol areas and continuous tracking. In addition, the US command lacks the strength of PLO forces.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 1 December 2018 22: 38
          +6
          Quote: gunnerminer
          crews are not provided with even the minimum PLO in the near zone.

          Well, you "bent" it, however!
          Quote: gunnerminer
          Significantly easier for US ekpazham opening routes, areas of patrols SSBN and continuous tracking.

          How will these "PLO forces" penetrate the Sea of ​​Okhotsk through the densely mined straits between the islands of the Kuril ridge? Look at how the air defense / missile defense system is being strengthened on the islands, how the air defense and air defense system is developing ...
          So, they will not succeed in "autopsy" and "continuous tracking".
          Quote: gunnerminer
          the US command lacks PLO forces.

          But this does not mean at all that they are ready to shove their heads into the mouth of the Bear ... Sea of ​​Okhotsk is our inland sea with all the ensuing consequences ...
          So, "no need to shaggy grandma"!
          Do not frighten the average person: he is so scared !!!
          1. jonht
            jonht 2 December 2018 02: 53
            +3
            Do not pay attention, this comrade knows everything and everything, he was not in Kamchatka, but what does it know better here ...
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 2 December 2018 08: 13
              -4
              -know everything and everything, in Kamchatka not -

              You are not the only resident on this peninsula. Nobody forbids to insert photos of views of the peninsula, as well as to correspond with residents of the Urals, Kazakhstan, Japan and Tafwan.
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 2 December 2018 13: 09
                +2
                Quote: gunnerminer
                and correspond with residents of the Urals, Kazakhstan, Japan and Tafwan

                Murad, undoubtedly, Allah is AKBAR!
                But it would be better if you corresponded with "Tufn"! It would be more useful, by God. For:
                1. Particularly touching is the breakthrough to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk by the PLO planes of Australia ...good
                2. You get a masterpiece about the "first degree" of mine weapon readiness ... Apparently, you don't know about the final preparation of it ... Yeah ... about underwater carriers and aircraft for setting up MZM you, apparently, also do not yet told ... It's sad ...
                3. The term "inland sea" is physico-geographical, properly formalized legally and confirmed by the mn community, through conventions, agreements, treaties, status ... It has nothing to do with peacetime or wartime ...
                4. Your average person is already hefty advanced once newspapers in the languages ​​of NATO countries reads and draws independent conclusions from their "fake news" (Trump, not me, I called them that!)
                Apparently you are also one of them.
                Therefore, it is difficult to talk with the deaf and talk about the rainbow to the blind ...
                Nihilism is an interesting occupation, when it is within the limits of reasonable and relies on knowledge and experience ... And so, this is just throwing guano on the fan! It is an ungrateful and smelly business.
                But.
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 2 December 2018 15: 59
                  -1
                  -You get a masterpiece about the "first degree" of readiness of mine weapons ... Apparently you don't know about its final preparation ..-

                  Ask your sources to read the ICP (Mine Service Rules) series B.

                  underwater carriers and aircraft for the production of MLM -

                  At KTOF, only Kuzbass MAPL can be such a resultant carrier. One combat ready for the entire KTOF. Warsaw PMR-1 and PMR-2 can take quite a bit, a maximum of 20 units. Given GPA devices and torpedoes for self-defense. and for a long time.

                  -The term "inland sea" is physical and geographical, designed -

                  In 1980-1988, the submariners of the USA, Great Britain, and Norway quite actively traveled to Motovsky Bay, and other forbidden places. To the northern part of the Kola Bay, too, as well as to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
          2. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 2 December 2018 07: 13
            -4
            -Well, you "bent" it, however! -

            For the entire KTOF there are three combat-ready morally obsolete Varshavyanki, and even 877 projects.

            -And how these "PLO forces" will penetrate into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk through densely mined-

            Planes PLO Japan, USA, South Korea, Australia. As soon as mass delivery of mines to the carriers begins, partner submarines will break into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. Japanese and Korean are the first building block. Before hiding, the transfer of noticeable quantities of mine weapons began. the first degree of readiness, with delivery to carriers, will not work. Especially given the extreme limitations of the finished piers and access roads to them. For example, not all piers in Vilyuchinsk, the territory around the TTB was brought to readiness.

            - See how air defense / missile defense is enhanced -

            The rates are teaspovernous. In addition, the fighter support is the most symbolic. Like EW.

            -sea while our inland sea with all the ensuing consequences ...-

            In peacetime.

            -Don't scare the average person: he’s so scared !!! -

            An attentive layman reads newspapers, especially with the basic official language of NATO, and can draw conclusions.
            1. jonht
              jonht 2 December 2018 13: 43
              0
              Here, I don’t even know what to say ...
              Although there is an aerodrome in Kamchatka, there is aviation and it hasn’t gone anywhere, and all that aviation rabble will very quickly detach Mig 31 from the Yelizovsky airfield. And if all of a sudden this is not enough for you, there are two more airdromes in Primorye and they make a jump airfield in the Kuril Islands. And check everything that they write to you ....
              Chukchi is not a writer, Chukchi is a storyteller ...
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 2 December 2018 15: 53
                -1
                - there is aviation and it hasn’t gone anywhere-

                Quite a modest aviation, given the size there. Just indicate your presence so that the population does not forget that it is.

                -Mig 31 from the Yelizovsky airdrome will be very quickly divided

                Their combat-ready two links, from strength.

                -and make a jump airfield in the Kuril Islands. -

                They promise, discover, do, plan, create, if.
          3. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 2 December 2018 16: 02
            -2
            -Put your head in the jaws of the Bear-

            The bear can’t repair the fangs at all. The zoo keeper, instead of the guards, steals meat and money infinitely. Despite the fact that the partner is pounding the gate open.
    3. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 24
      -4
      There are no dreams for the expectation of a shorter construction time. New equipment arrives at Sevmash with homeopathic doses.
  3. sergo1914
    sergo1914 1 December 2018 14: 46
    +6
    Before this blogger, naval counterintelligence ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 1 December 2018 14: 52
      +6
      Times are different. Earlier it was in the press - "... a launch vehicle with a satellite" Cosmos-number is like that .. "That's all.
    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 1 December 2018 14: 56
      +4
      Earlier, they did business, and "spawning" was in operation. Now, more pathos. Moreover, the more problems, the more pathos
    3. Gray brother
      Gray brother 1 December 2018 14: 59
      +5
      Quote: sergo1914

      Before this blogger, naval counterintelligence ...

      If you take a picture of a screw, then you can now.
      1. Sarmat Sanych
        Sarmat Sanych 1 December 2018 15: 11
        0
        So there, if you want, figs you take a picture, like there is a water jet.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 1 December 2018 15: 17
          -1
          Quote: Sarmat Sanych
          like there is a water jet.

          But where is the water cannon from? How will he take water?
          1. Sarmat Sanych
            Sarmat Sanych 1 December 2018 15: 18
            0
            Standard. As on "Halibut", the same "Sea Wolves".
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 1 December 2018 15: 21
              +1
              Quote: Sarmat Sanych
              Standard. As on "Halibut", the same "Sea Wolves".

              The screw in the ring casing is now called a water jet? Did not know.
              1. Sarmat Sanych
                Sarmat Sanych 1 December 2018 15: 32
                +1
                Are you seriously?))
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 1 December 2018 15: 36
                  -2
                  Quote: Sarmat Sanych
                  Are you seriously?))

                  Absolutely. In my understanding, a water washer is when there is an intake pipe through which a pump (no matter which one) sucks in water and throws it out of the exhaust pipe and the movement is carried out due to the ejected stream of water. And the screw in the casing is not a water washer, it is the screw in the casing.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 1 December 2018 15: 43
                    +2
                    Sorry, as far as I understand, this is just protection against ice.
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 1 December 2018 15: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: cniza
                      Sorry, as far as I understand, this is just protection against ice.

                      There is also sense from the nozzle, the speed and orderliness of the water flow driven through it will be slightly higher.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 1 December 2018 15: 57
                        +2
                        Yes, and it also reduces cavitation and other troubles.
                    2. dolphin27
                      dolphin27 1 December 2018 16: 19
                      +3
                      No, this is a reduction in noise and cavitation. The rest is nice bonuses
                  2. dolphin27
                    dolphin27 1 December 2018 16: 17
                    +1
                    You have a wrong understanding. The water cannon is an axial pump, and it is the pump that stands on the boreas, not the "screw in the casing"
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 1 December 2018 16: 19
                      0
                      Quote: dolphin27
                      and it’s the pump on the boreas,

                      Centrifugal?
                      1. dolphin27
                        dolphin27 1 December 2018 16: 21
                        0
                        Axial, centrifugal as a means of creating traction are not used
                      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
                        GELEZNII_KAPUT 1 December 2018 16: 45
                        0
                        Axial, centrifugal as a means of creating traction are not used

                        The axial pump is very much inferior to the centrifugal in pressure.
                  3. Sarmat Sanych
                    Sarmat Sanych 2 December 2018 09: 33
                    -1
                    Good good))). You probably know better than "Ruby" and "General Dynamics"smile.
              2. dolphin27
                dolphin27 1 December 2018 16: 20
                +1
                Search the Internet for pump-jet
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 1 December 2018 16: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: dolphin27
                  Search the Internet for pump-jet

                  Found. It looks like a water cannon)))
                  1. dolphin27
                    dolphin27 1 December 2018 16: 30
                    +1
                    Well this is a diagonal with a surface discharge. And pump-jet is a short pipe in which there is an impeller. The principle of operation for VD and GV is different: for the first thrust is provided by the flow of water, for the second - by creating a lifting force on the blades
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 1 December 2018 16: 35
                      0
                      Quote: dolphin27
                      in which there is an impeller.

                      Yeah, like a screw, with blades.
                      1. dolphin27
                        dolphin27 2 December 2018 17: 15
                        0
                        If only visually. I repeat once again - the principle of operation of these movers is different, therefore the purpose of the RC VD and GV is different, different diameters, the shape of the blades, and parameters. Everything is different. Kettle and pan also look similar
          2. Prapor-527
            Prapor-527 1 December 2018 15: 31
            0
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Quote: Sarmat Sanych
            like there is a water jet.

            But where is the water cannon from? How will he take water?

            As previously reported, in 2018, the outline design of advanced submarines of project 955B with new water jet
            Apparently about this ...
    4. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 52
      -5
      Her efforts did not save the collapse of the Soviet Navy.
  4. Proton
    Proton 1 December 2018 14: 51
    0
    The good news laughing The nuclear "club" will reliably stay above the heads of sworn partners with such submarine cruisers.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 1 December 2018 16: 53
      -10
      There is a cudgel, but fingers are stunted. Without the minimum necessary support forces. Yes, and this cudgel flies - a pin where Allah sends.
      1. Sarmat Sanych
        Sarmat Sanych 2 December 2018 09: 42
        +3
        Overslept 10 years, comradesmile... "Bulava" long ago in full order, 4 pieces in 20 seconds easily flies out. Not that the galimous "trident", which was unsuccessful for the Britos in 2016, the unsuccessful ones were hidden in 2011, and besides, there were no volleys for more than two years, and the last conditionally double was with a difference ... 20 hourslaughing! The hike was completely consumed by the rusty "Ogiki" resource ...
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 29
          -3
          -Mulava "a long time ago in full order-

          Quite the same. With the efforts of the General Staff General Army General Makrov, she was sacked by the fleet. To complete the process of eliminating comments, and to justify herself for the additional not weak expenses, they called her Mace M. In sweat of the face, continuing to increase its reliability.

          -Not that galimous "trident", -

          Even if Triydint refuses to shoot at all, the reliability of Mace M will not be affected by this light fact.

          -Rusty "Ogiki" completely consumed the resource ...-

          Maybe so. They have submissive allies. With RPKSN. Moreover, with a full set of all types of support, a repair base. Doctrina - In the world and death is red - it will not work here.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 1 December 2018 14: 51
    +6
    Once in my life a boat walked / rolled us t.s.
    The memory has remained forever, I will tell my grandchildren as well.
    Our submarine fleet is our peaceful life, one of the important elements of protection.
    Seven feet under the keel and peaceful sea you guys.
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 1 December 2018 16: 43
      +7
      (Victor) Today, 14: 51, well, they do not want the submariners 7 feet.
      Let the number of dives, always equal to the number of ascent, well, and I already voiced a toast for the strength of the durable body drinks
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 December 2018 18: 44
        +4
        Quote: VALERIK_097
        Let the number of dives, always equal to the number of ascent, well, and I already voiced a toast for the strength of the durable body

        I did not have time to find out the Spesfiss folk from submariners !!! only once worked on a boat. Mostly on surface ships.
        I join however !!! I remember it will not happen again!
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 26
      -2
      You are lucky that you did not get in fresh weather, under the airborne wave. Otherwise, your impressions would be green, and palpable bitterness. The romance blows away at the moment.
    3. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 30
      -2
      You are lucky that you did not get in fresh weather, under the airborne wave. Otherwise, your impressions would be green, and palpable bitterness. The romance blows away at the moment.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 December 2018 18: 52
        +4
        Quote: gunnerminer
        You are lucky that you did not get in fresh weather, under the airborne wave

        There is no special pitching in the Gulf of Finland, and so, I went \ work on ships, large and very large, not in a carriage, but worked with them ....... and yes, I crossed the Atlantic twice, not in the most calm season .
        In short, with the vestibular everything is OK, I’m not green and I am eating with appetite!
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 1 December 2018 19: 30
          -3
          The submarine puts in a surface position more than the ship, due to the shape of its hull.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 December 2018 19: 43
            +1
            Modern submarines do not need to hang upstairs for a breath of air and charging batteries.
            Even diesel engines can go under water for a long time.
            However, not special, did not try.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 1 December 2018 22: 22
              -2
              - There is no need for modern submarines to hang upstairs for a breath of air and charge batteries.

              We are talking about diesel submarines 877 and 636.3. They can be under water for a maximum of 72 hours, due to the impossibility of primitive chemical air regeneration to get rid of monoxide.

              - go under water for a long time .-

              No, there are no diesel boats with VNEU or LIAB in the Russian Navy.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 2 December 2018 08: 23
                0
                This is understandable, but diesel boats are all the same to the forces of the near zone, not far from their bases, ports. They do not operate in the ocean zone. All times, these are sho far boats of a different class go.
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 2 December 2018 10: 59
                  -4
                  But diesel boats are all the same forces of the near zone, -

                  Not at all. This is if the maritime infrastructure is poor and there are no support forces. If there are reliable travel companions as well, not to mention the allies, then with excellent reconnaissance and stable combat control, the diesels are effective. Read the educational program about the actions of German and Italian boats during WWII . Including the Soviet Arctic. Or the author Kovalev-Swastika over Taimyr .-
                2. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 01
                  -3
                  - times such, sho go into the distance boats of another class .-

                  This is only the Norwegian or Dutch divers to laugh at. They and at this time perfectly perform the main activities in the Mediterranean Sea.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 2 December 2018 11: 17
                    0
                    Flies separately, we will use cutlets ..... the battle for the Atlantic as an object of study for all submariners to introduce, yeah, especially for nuclear-powered missile carriers!
                    Do not confuse strategic forces with coastal and inland seas!
                    Japa can finally get a boat on batteries, without launching an internal combustion engine. The main thing HIDDEN !!! For greater autonomy, this is a completely different fleet!
                    1. gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 31
                      -4
                      -Do not confuse strategic forces with the coastal and inland seas! -

                      I recommend reading a literacy program about submarines. And even better to talk, slowly, with submariners.

                      -Main HIDDEN !!! For greater autonomy, this is a completely different fleet! -

                      Noble vinaigrette. I recommend not to neglect communication with submariners.
                3. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 08
                  -3
                  IDF submarines carry out military service in the Persian Gulf. Read an educational program about the 5th operational squadron in the Mediterranean, about KTOF diesel submariners. They carried out combat services at very remote theaters, provided they had the support indicated above.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 2 December 2018 11: 49
                    +1
                    Flies cutlets, who has, and who plays those sho IS!
                    A pointless argument, I can’t have my own opinion, not my topic .....
                    And so from communication and with submariners .... a boat, this is for any compromise with a bias towards the goals and objectives that are posed before this model.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 December 2018 14: 52
    +1
    They tightened the construction ... Head, modernized ... But still for a long time.
    A dozen of such cruisers are a serious help ... In conversations with the "red carpet" ...
  7. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 1 December 2018 14: 53
    +2
    The news is good, but the pace of construction, to put it mildly, is not very good. With Ash, not very much at all ((
  8. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 1 December 2018 14: 54
    0
    "Partner" Trump will be offended again. That's bad luck .....
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 1 December 2018 15: 07
      +1
      can give a bolt-put on the trump smile
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 1 December 2018 15: 08
        +1
        Quote: ANCIENT
        can give a bolt-put on the trump smile

        There, China has long scored.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 29
          -2
          While remaining their most important trading partner.
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 1 December 2018 17: 13
      -2
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      "Partner" Trump will be offended again. That's bad luck .....

      To make it even more offensive to him, I propose to slightly change the name of the cruiser to "Prince Vladimir Vladimirovich"
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 28
        0
        It is necessary to be careful with the princes. The Romanov princes profiled RI.
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 1 December 2018 17: 49
          -1
          Quote: gunnerminer
          Romanov princes profiled RI

          But the pre-Romanovskys created it. Everything depends on the scale of the person.
          Quote: gunnerminer
          With princes must be careful.

          That's right. I hope that ships with the names "Prince Boris (Nikolaevich)" and "Prince Mikhail (Sergeevich)" will never appear in the Russian fleet.
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 1 December 2018 18: 02
            -2
            - I hope that ships with names never appear in the Russian fleet -

            If naval construction will follow the current channel, then the problem of names of new buildings will not be the most important.
          2. irazum
            irazum 1 December 2018 23: 01
            -2
            Will definitely be: "Grand Duke Isaac Abramovich"! There is no other way.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 2 December 2018 11: 32
              -3
              That's what matters.
        2. gor999
          gor999 4 December 2018 08: 03
          0
          Yes, when will this troll be banned ???
  9. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 1 December 2018 15: 06
    +1
    if only they did not become wise here, and, the whole series was built, otherwise with our `` fixers '' on the week of 8 Saturdays am
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 1 December 2018 16: 08
      -1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      at least they didn’t make smarts here, and they built the whole series

      EMNIP, the change of 7 and 8 Borea was moved to the end of 2020 and 2021, respectively. So until 2020, all 8 strategists fail to pass. But this is not critical in this case, because the delivery of 8 APKSN is a lot of work. For the sake of surrendering these boats, they even sacrificed the surrender of Ashen, as Sevmash is building them all, nowhere else.
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 1 December 2018 17: 27
        +2
        The customer is not interested in the intensity of the discussion of the size of the work, but technically ready for the transfer of the SSBN.
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  11. rruvim
    rruvim 1 December 2018 15: 12
    +2
    It's good that we returned to the construction program again with 10 and not 8. On the other hand, in five years, they will stop at seven. After all, the state armaments program is constantly shifting "to the right" or is being reduced.
  12. cniza
    cniza 1 December 2018 15: 40
    +1
    It is also possible that after 2027 the construction of the submarines of this project will continue.


    If only there was enough political will.
  13. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 1 December 2018 16: 10
    0
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    These "virgin moose" are just an empty space for us and they won't save Omeriga even by 1%. And the Russian SSBNs will destroy the Indian subcontinent directly from the pier.
    PS If Yellowstone does not do this earlier, Alaska is already going underground.



    Still, the Mace would fly stably, otherwise it would be somehow scary to stay with her after the BDRM was written off ....
    1. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 2 December 2018 09: 50
      +1
      Everything is fine there. By the way, the last brilliant fourfold volley in 20 seconds (Ohio can't do this with T2 anymore) in the English-language YouTube gained tens of millions of views. I am familiar with the language of the native speaker, and there, in the comments and former overseas sailors on the campaign, words of envy and delight.
      1. jonht
        jonht 2 December 2018 13: 48
        0
        I would like to read how they reckoned operations "Begimot" and "Begimot 2" when they fired a full or almost full salvo.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 2 December 2018 15: 48
          0
          They were excellently appreciated. The SSBN naval combat crews were given a unique opportunity to work out practical skills regularly. Those submariners are already retired.
  14. VRF
    VRF 1 December 2018 19: 16
    +2
    Here I read the comments and the question arises (every time) - gentlemen, (comrades, misters, etc.) "couch strategists", do you really think that smart uncles from the Ministry of Defense are stupider than you?
  15. irazum
    irazum 1 December 2018 22: 54
    -1
    Finally, Glory to you, Lord!
  16. navy33
    navy33 1 December 2018 23: 42
    0
    Good! Good watch Good Ship. And so that the anxiety would be training.
  17. Old26
    Old26 2 December 2018 19: 45
    -1
    Quote: gunnerminer
    Not at all. This is if the maritime infrastructure is poor and there are no support forces. If there are reliable travel companions as well, not to mention the allies, then with excellent reconnaissance and stable combat control, the diesels are effective. Read the educational program about the actions of German and Italian boats during WWII . Including the Soviet Arctic. Or the author Kovalev-Swastika over Taimyr .-

    You would still remember the First World War. It is about the "here and now" situation. In coastal defense, diesels can act and act productively. But they will not be able to compete with atomic ones either in speed or in diving depth ... So there is no need to extrapolate the events of World War II (then there were simply no other boats) to the current situation
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 2 December 2018 21: 43
      0
      -But they can’t compete with atomic ones either in terms of speed or depth of immersion ...-

      Read carefully. Excellent reconnaissance, especially aerial reconnaissance, active operations by air defense missile defense, identifies the most probable areas of MAPL operations. They have depth limits, including cheats and remote areas, in archipelagos. For example, in the first Persian Gulf war, it was the British diesel engine Opossum that attracted for landing reconnaissance and other supporting operations. Currently, Turkish, Dutch, Norwegian, Italian submarines are engaged in military service in the Eastern Mediterranean. US and British MAPLs only for launching missile strikes, or demonstration actions. Follow the news. No need to drive costly to operate nuclear submarines against the modest forces of the Russian operational group. Let me remind you that two units of the Russian 636.3 project are by no means nuclear.

      -So you don’t need to extrapolate the events of World War II (then there were simply no other boats) to the current situation

      Such a straightforward approach for coastal civilians.
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 2 December 2018 21: 44
      0
      Old 26 -But they cannot compete with atomic ones either in terms of speed or depth of immersion ...-

      Read carefully. Excellent reconnaissance, especially aerial reconnaissance, active operations by air defense missile defense, identifies the most probable areas of MAPL operations. They have depth limits, including cheats and remote areas, in archipelagos. For example, in the first Persian Gulf war, it was the British diesel engine Opossum that attracted for landing reconnaissance and other supporting operations. Currently, Turkish, Dutch, Norwegian, Italian submarines are engaged in military service in the Eastern Mediterranean. US and British MAPLs only for launching missile strikes, or demonstration actions. Follow the news. No need to drive costly to operate nuclear submarines against the modest forces of the Russian operational group. Let me remind you that two units of the Russian 636.3 project are by no means nuclear.

      -So you don’t need to extrapolate the events of World War II (then there were simply no other boats) to the current situation

      This is a straightforward approach for coastal civilians. Keep an eye on the Mediterranean.