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Russia transferred to the USA new data on casualties in World War II.

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Moscow handed over to Washington new data on the US military killed during World War II. This happened at the new plenary meeting of the Russian-American Commission on Prisoners of War and Missing Persons, reports TASS.

Russia transferred to the USA new data on casualties in World War II.


According to the deputy co-chair of the commission, Major-General of the reserve Alexander Kirilin, the United States was handed over documents relating to the downed aircraft of the 16 Air Force. It was noted that the Americans wanted to request these documents from Russia, however, “the head of the archive together with the head of the World War II group seemed to foreshadow this desire.” Kirilin also said that the Americans had been given a promise to pick up information on other armies and other areas.

Russia, in turn, is interested in documents about citizens who, at the end of the war, did not want to return to the Soviet Union, after emigrating to other countries, including the United States. This is due to the fact that about two million people are still unaccounted for, and it is important for Russia to establish the fate of these people.
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  1. IGU
    IGU 29 November 2018 14: 45
    +14
    Russia, in turn, is interested in documents about citizens who, at the end of the war, did not want to return to the Soviet Union, having emigrated to other countries, including the United States.
    It is doubtful that the Americans would disclose all the data on accomplices who escaped over the hill.
    1. Machito
      Machito 29 November 2018 14: 58
      +6
      In the USA, many fascists found refuge. Watch the old movie Platoon, where Americans ride a tank with a Hitler flag.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 29 November 2018 14: 59
        +32
        Two million escaped? Get fucked up.
        After the war, there was such a breakthrough in science and technology. I used to be very surprised how after a devastating war, with such monstrous human casualties, after 16 years they launched a man into space.
        And it turns out that a significant part of the lovers of the "sweet life" fled. Well, during the war many embezzlers were shot. So there was no one to interfere with moving forward.
        It is a pity that later new ones grew.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 29 November 2018 15: 26
          +4
          Quote: Shurik70
          Two million escaped? Get fucked up.

          Two million are reported as missing.
          Quote: Shurik70
          And it turns out that a significant part of the lovers of the "sweet life" fled.

          Many of them helped "from there" to make this leap.
          Quote: Shurik70
          It is a pity that later new ones grew.

          Here, with you, I agree.
        2. Kotofeich
          Kotofeich 29 November 2018 17: 41
          +4
          Two million are not escaped, but missing. These are different things. My grandfather went missing near Rzhev. They still find the remains of soldiers, not everyone has medallions.
        3. Maximxnumx
          Maximxnumx 29 November 2018 18: 31
          -12
          So there was no one to stop moving forward

          Doubtful. Without German engineers, there would be no "man into space". As there would be no R-1, R-7, jet engines (of course, the British NINs also helped a lot) Tu-4 (B-29) and much more.
          1. silberwolf88
            silberwolf88 29 November 2018 20: 56
            +5
            Cool look of a half-educated liberalist ...
            if about the United States ... then of course without space officer Venus Von Braun no space))) ... if about the USSR then Korolev was very skeptical of Nazi developments and called copying the FAU-2 a waste of time ... its 7-ka is just a different approach to the design of a carrier rocket ... and domestic engine building has come a unique way ... not everyone can copy now ...
            1. Maximxnumx
              Maximxnumx 1 December 2018 22: 49
              0
              Cool look

              But what, in the USSR were jet engines, strategic bombers (well, except for single TB-3 or TB-7) or advanced rocket science? How could we ferry a bomb across the bay?
              Why did they take out the documentation and engineers, if we had "everything in chocolate"?
              And Tupolev could build a Tu-4 not on the model of a "superfortress", but from scratch, and even better, and Korolev made one missile after another .. only we were lagging then, we are still lagging behind in ICBMs (at least in SLBMs). And real ICBMs that could reach that continent appeared only in the 70s (the last missile under the leadership of the Queen RT-2 was much inferior to its counterpart, Minuteman-2: 2.5 times less throw weight, and 18 tons heavier ..). So why sing praises?
              1. silberwolf88
                silberwolf88 2 December 2018 14: 33
                0
                My dear ... and you don’t juggle ... YES we didn’t even have such a wide range of steels and special alloys ... rubber and much more ... BUT this does not mean that we did not DO IT ...
                you can argue and argue a lot (truth is not born in disputes) we have gone our own unique way ... it’s certainly not at the expense of different Western brains that we built our missile industry ...
                did they use foreign experience ... YES ... (The world is full of ideas ... many bicycles have already been invented) ... but only the Western backlog was not decisive for us ... and for the USA Werner Von B. was a key figure ...
                A lot of things were also emphasized on the nuclear program HOWEVER ... the West is not able to create such centrifuges for uranium enrichment like ours now (and this is a key element) ... and Sakharov created the thermonuclear bomb before anyone else ... CAM proposed an original solution "puff" ... which is now almost a classic ...
                It’s difficult with missiles for the fleet)) ... BUT the fleet was not a determining force ... but 15A14 ... 15A18 and 15A18M were just beautiful 208 tons ... yes, with a mortar launch, beauty / pretty ... and such the United States didn’t ... but how in the USSR they coped with launches in the region of the pole (navigational and sighting tasks are difficult to solve there), and you see, before everyone else ... there was still a lot of technological and different ... BUT certainly Western ideas weren’t defining for us ...
                1. Maximxnumx
                  Maximxnumx 2 December 2018 16: 21
                  0
                  BUT the fleet was not a determining force

                  There was a time, the beginning of the 60's, when only the fleet could reach the states. Since there were only 7 deployed launch complexes for the R-7 and R-5A (the Americans already had hundreds of deployed LGA-30A in the mines and not only). All external and destroyed, and even a little of them were raw missiles, not suitable for mass production. Actually, the Strategic Missile Forces gained strength when the mine R-16 appeared. And 15A18 appeared almost 20 years later .. In 1979 it was tested .. Another time at all.
                  1. silberwolf88
                    silberwolf88 2 December 2018 18: 49
                    0
                    15A14 adopted in 1975
                    And before it was "weaving" ... UR-100 8K84 adopted by the Strategic Missile Forces in 1967 ...
                    And a lot of other things were introduced and maintained in parallel ... for example, a group launch complex in Kamchatka ... for which 5 is quite a range ... and if there are single-unit units of 500 - 1 Mt KVO not a very important parameter
                    And yet ... we never built weapons to enslave the World ... like the United States ... therefore, we often found ourselves in the situation of the need for adequate resistance (catching up is somehow not true) ...
                    1. Maximxnumx
                      Maximxnumx 3 December 2018 02: 01
                      0
                      15A14 adopted in 1975

                      I wrote about 15A18 // http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/15a18/15a18.shtml // 79
                      SS-18 Satana
                      and in the presence of monoblocks in 1 - 1,2 Mt CVO is not a very important parameter

                      KVO is an important parameter when it is necessary to destroy a point target, a mine launcher, aug, Cheyenne, Raven Rock, etc. If the KVO is 3 km, then this is a lot. Only by area (cities).
                      PS: Monoblocks can be shot down, but 10-ok BB, with false targets, figs you will knock. Therefore, they are doing now 10 (Mace) -14 (Trident) BB for 100-150 kT.
                      It is believed that accuracy is more important than power. And 150 m KVO, better than 3 km.
                      1. silberwolf88
                        silberwolf88 3 December 2018 19: 29
                        0
                        I just showed you that we had missiles up to 18 (the same 14 only with a breeding stage) and 18M (a fundamentally different missile in the same dimensions) ...
                        Regarding the strike on Shtatov silos (at the time of the strike, they will be empty at the reciprocal / oncoming strike ... those with a reduced degree of BG will do otherwise) ... too long to explain that these are second-order targets ... they will hit dams .. megalopolises ... chemical industries ... nuclear power plants ... government control centers ... for example, throughout France there are 68 significant goals (I won’t explain this special term) ... this is one regiment of heavy missiles in normal equipment .. .
                        Stop juggling ... this modern missile defense under certain conditions can bring down the BB ... in 60 - 80 x it was not realistic, therefore, all-in-one equipment with a small package of heavy and light false targets and even without them completely coped with the tasks ...
                        Don’t jump from topic to topic and do not confuse times ... we always had an adequate answer ... in accordance with the time and equipment of the enemy ... the lag was in the late forties ... but we overcame ...
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 29 November 2018 15: 17
      +2
      there were good times - under EBN, why didn't you fuss? it was not necessary for the liberals, from "absolutely"
    3. Romka47
      Romka47 30 November 2018 11: 45
      0
      Well, they might not be able to pass on accomplices, but there was a huge bunch of people who moved to them, and lived there quietly and died, they have descendants here. For someone, this information is important!
  2. avia12005
    avia12005 29 November 2018 14: 50
    +14
    Yeah, but then someone used them to write to the victims of the Gulag.
  3. Carib
    Carib 29 November 2018 14: 58
    +7
    "Russia, in turn, is interested in documents on citizens who, at the end of the war, did not want to return to the Soviet Union, having emigrated to other countries, including the United States."
    Suddenly the grandfather survived. I could not return, they didn’t let me ... what difference does it make now. At least some news. All the same, the tears are welling up ...
    October 1941, Black Stream, near Rzhev 250 p. d. 922 s.p. They covered the withdrawal of the army, the front. Regiment to reform, few retreated.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 29 November 2018 17: 03
      +5
      Quote: Carib
      At least some news.

      understand. I was looking for my grandfather because of a lost funeral for 2 years, the search engines helped.
      Uncle's wife, the burial place was known, but on the grave of F.I.O.
      He began to understand, not knocked out on granite.
      I ask, why not on the monument?
      The answer is no money and no one was interested
      I say - how much is needed?
      The answer is not at all, let’s do it.
      Now we need to fly to Kaliningrad, check.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 29 November 2018 18: 02
        +3
        Where to check? If in the district of Koenig, I’ll look ... I’ll take a picture, I’ll report soldier
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 29 November 2018 18: 16
          +3
          Thank. But this is in Primorsk (Fishhausen).
          Mass grave.


          Paramonov Mikhail Vasilievich, Art. sergeant, born in 1914. Killed April 27.04. 1945
          If you succeed, thank you very much, no, I will not be offended.
          To the right of the monument, facing him, is his entire crew. I can’t tell you where to find his last name. Obviously, they should have been knocked out asymmetrically on a tombstone somewhere below
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 1 December 2018 12: 50
            +1

            In PM, it does not work.
            hi
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 1 December 2018 15: 48
              +2
              Thank you very much, my dear! Stone off the shoulders. Thanks and from the wife
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 29 November 2018 14: 59
    +1
    In that war, it’s high time to put all the points over E!
  5. IGU
    IGU 29 November 2018 15: 05
    +1
    in the photo Lightning, by chance not after an air battle over Nish?
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 29 November 2018 15: 26
      0
      in the photo Lightning, by chance not after an air battle over Nish?

      ,,, accidentally not laughing
      1. IGU
        IGU 29 November 2018 15: 32
        +1
        Sorry. A good illustration for the article would be.
  6. XXXIII
    XXXIII 29 November 2018 15: 07
    0
    Russia, in turn, is interested in documents about citizens who, at the end of the war, did not want to return to the Soviet Union, having emigrated to other countries, including the United States. This is because about two million people are still missing, and it is important for Russia to establish the fate of these people.
    Interesting.... good
  7. bubalik
    bubalik 29 November 2018 15: 12
    0
    ,, and the photo fighter which the Japanese slammed,
  8. samarin1969
    samarin1969 29 November 2018 16: 26
    +3
    Americans will be very surprised if they respond to the proposal of the Russian Federation. Neither financially nor ideologically is it disadvantageous for them.
  9. The whistle
    The whistle 29 November 2018 17: 38
    +10
    I’m reading now the memoirs of prisoners of war are different and pretty much with an anti-Soviet scent and without any ideological insertions. There it really wasn’t really destroying ours, bringing them to cattle with hunger and atrocities for tens of thousands died out by a terrible death (shooting it was the most humane way of appeasing) .. And how much civilians were taken to Germany.
    Now in "our media" it often slips that the Soviet soldiers raped and killed the Germans and treated them badly in captivity .. No, the guys, what our Soviet soldiers and the population endured and most of the dead were just stupidly destroyed by hunger and disease BECAUSE THE SOVIET ! Eternal memory to them brutally tortured and murdered. soldier Judging by yet another Russophobia, this should not be forgotten, in which case we all will be even worse off than it was .. It’s better not to bother! And I sense the invasion by genes, it is being prepared very meticulously .. this time ..
    Such things are in tank formations in the west and east ..!
  10. NordUral
    NordUral 30 November 2018 10: 18
    -1
    Another attempt to lick.