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Kiev began negotiations on the creation of a US base in the country

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Kiev is interested in creating an American military base on the territory of Ukraine and is conducting relevant negotiations with Washington, according to News with reference to the Ukrainian diplomatic source.



The information was confirmed by the deputy Rada Ivan Vinnik ("Petro Poroshenko Bloc"), who said that the new military facility would provide the country with security from threats from Russia and solve some "issues of military deterrence."

According to a newspaper source, Kiev sees that Warsaw is actively negotiating with the US administration on the deployment of a military base on its territory. The length of the Ukrainian-Russian border is much larger than in Poland. "Therefore, we believe that we should have an American base," said the source.

So far, so-called backroom negotiations are taking place, in which the Ukrainian side is trying to justify its request. Today, against the background of “aggravations in the Sea of ​​Azov”, this issue has become particularly relevant, he added.

At the same time, Washington is not in a hurry with promises. As the former Pentagon adviser Richard Weitz noted, such a move (the deployment of a military base in Ukraine) would make the US position more vulnerable to retaliation from Moscow.

In addition, there is a danger of losing a military base in the event of a Russian strike. Troops and equipment should be placed elsewhere that could be better protected, he explained.

Many experts are confident that Russia and its CSTO allies will take the initiative to create a base as a provocation, therefore, most likely, we can expect continued rotation of US forces stationed on Ukrainian territory to conduct joint exercises.

Among other things, the question arises: who will finance the base? Given the economic situation in Ukraine, the Americans will have to do it. They are unlikely to be inspired by such a situation, political analysts say.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 28 November 2018 12: 46
    +7
    The American base is what Poroshenko and Co. need, for guaranteed flight from the country.
    1. Zubr
      Zubr 28 November 2018 12: 51
      +5
      They do not even need an American base for this.
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 November 2018 12: 54
        +5
        Quote: Zubr
        They do not even need an American base for this.

        Need, need. Only American bayonets will protect them
        1. Zubr
          Zubr 28 November 2018 13: 03
          +10
          They will run much faster, but the Americans will not be able to quickly withdraw their base, in the event of a mess.
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 November 2018 13: 32
            +3
            They do not dare to create a base in Ukraine, although the rudiments in Nikolaev are already being created.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 November 2018 13: 39
              +5
              Quote: cniza
              They do not dare to create a base in Ukraine

              Why?
              1. cniza
                cniza 28 November 2018 13: 49
                +4
                Because they understand that Ukraine is bursting at all seams, and they don’t want to spend money either, in Poland they haven’t decided yet ...
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 28 November 2018 14: 05
                  +10
                  Quote: cniza
                  Because they understand Ukraine is bursting at all seams

                  and what follows from this?
                  She has been cracking for a long time.
                  1. In 2015, the fact of default was forgiven
                  2. The active population is actively leaving; children, pensioners and radicals remain in the country.
                  3. The remaining population is actively pumped up with Russophobia.
                  4. The masses are inert; an active minority is governed. The vast majority of supporters of friendship with Russia in Ukraine is not.
                  5. Ukraine is a good geographic base against Russia
                  6. A truly pro-Russian leadership in Ukraine will not be in the near future
                  I believe that it will be kept afloat for a very long time
          2. Machito
            Machito 29 November 2018 15: 46
            0
            The offensive of the LDNR NM in Kiev and Lviv will sweep the eurofascists and their masters from the territory of Ukraine.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 28 November 2018 12: 54
      +11
      Quote: svp67
      The American base is what Poroshenko and Co. need, for guaranteed flight from the country.

      If she appears there he will not have to run .. And she will certainly appear there if we continue to be inactive ..
      1. Sayan
        Sayan 28 November 2018 13: 00
        +5
        In this situation, it is unlikely that the mattresses are very afraid of a direct collision with us, they want to put the Urinians under the rink, and the Sumerians want to hide behind them, so they don’t agree
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 November 2018 13: 07
          +10
          Quote: Sayan
          In this situation, it is unlikely

          July 25, 2017 in Ochakovo, located 150 km from the Crimea, the ceremony of laying the naval operational center intended for combined-arms and naval exercises was held, the website navy.mil reports. The military base will be built by members of the US Navy construction battalions. In the future, the United States plans to turn the entire Black Sea coast of Ukraine into its base.
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 November 2018 13: 33
            +3
            This is a trial ball and they are waiting for our return step.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 November 2018 13: 39
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              This is a trial ball and they are waiting for our return step.

              eg..? Only real step
              1. cniza
                cniza 28 November 2018 13: 46
                +3
                Cuba, Venezuela and much more can be called, but we do not decide.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 28 November 2018 14: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  Cuba, Venezuela and much more can be called, but we do not decide.

                  This is a hypothetical opportunity. But practical implementation is important.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 28 November 2018 14: 53
                    +2
                    Yes, of course, everything is in theory, but the practice does not begin in another way.
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 28 November 2018 16: 01
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: svp67
        The American base is what Poroshenko and Co. need, for guaranteed flight from the country.

        If she appears there he will not have to run .. And she will certainly appear there if we continue to be inactive ..

        The appearance of such a base is a matter of the near future. This is what the Minsk Agreements achieved, regrets, recognition of the current Ukrainian government and other misconceptions and cowardice of the current government.
      3. Machito
        Machito 29 November 2018 15: 47
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: svp67
        The American base is what Poroshenko and Co. need, for guaranteed flight from the country.

        If she appears there he will not have to run .. And she will certainly appear there if we continue to be inactive ..

        It's time for Cuba's GDP to fly to negotiations.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 28 November 2018 12: 56
      +4
      The roof of the embassy is enough to escape. Remember Saigon.
      1. svp67
        svp67 28 November 2018 12: 57
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        The roof of the embassy is enough to escape. Remember Saigon.

        Yes, but there should be an American base at a distance of the helicopter radius, as it was in Vietnam.
      2. Black sniper
        Black sniper 28 November 2018 13: 36
        0
        If the Sumerians, dissatisfied with the power of gunpowder and Co., are furious, and this will happen sooner or later, then no amer’s base will help him (gunpowder); his own radicals will hang on the first lamp.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 28 November 2018 13: 47
          0
          Kiev began negotiations on the creation of a US base in the country
          coordinates please, so as not to strain ....
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 28 November 2018 12: 48
    +6
    in creating an American military base in Ukraine

    This will be the last line for us.
    1. svp67
      svp67 28 November 2018 12: 56
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      This will be the last line for us.

      This is behind her .... It seems that as soon as the Americans agree to this, something interesting may appear on the American continent
      1. ghby
        ghby 28 November 2018 13: 21
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        This is behind her .... It seems that as soon as the Americans agree to this, something interesting may appear on the American continent

        No, it’s foolish to allow the appearance of an Amer base in Ukraine. It is thought that the prerequisites for its occurrence, or the first steps in agreeing on a project to deploy a base, should entail a reaction to prevent the creation of a base (it seems that the likelihood of an Amer base appearing is calculated by the corresponding comrades, as well as ways to prevent its occurrence). And on a statewide scale, when choosing from: sanctions for aggression or an American base in Ukraine, it is more logical to choose sanctions, especially since there are enough of them, and the rest can be applied without harm to oneself (and Europe).
        As there are many forerunners at once, here both the VP and the Amer’s base are announced, they are rightly waving a red rag in front of us.
      2. Avior
        Avior 28 November 2018 14: 42
        -1
        where can it appear?
    2. kjhg
      kjhg 28 November 2018 13: 01
      +6
      This will be the last line for us.
      Do not make me laugh! How many of these red lines have the West crossed in the past 28 years? Do not count. The latter is the overthrow of power in Ukraine. I have no doubt that the military base will soon appear in Ukraine. This is all the result of HPP.
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 28 November 2018 13: 18
        0
        And what, unless someone has declared these red lines ??? Did not hear. Moreover, there is already an American base on the ruble.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 28 November 2018 13: 50
        -1
        Quote: kjhg
        I have no doubt that the military base will soon appear in Ukraine. This is all the result of HPP.

        and what? we have a dozen "armatures" and a dozen 57x ... paragraph amers ...
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 28 November 2018 13: 11
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      This will be the last line for us.

      Director of the NATO Information and Documentation Center in Kiev Barbora Maronkova. "In Ukraine, significant changes are taking place in the citizens' understanding of the goals and objectives of NATO, attitude to the actions of this political-military organization, especially when NATO strengthened its support for Ukraine after the events of 2014. The Alliance actively cooperates with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the National Guard of Ukraine, the Border Guard Service of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine on the implementation of civil protection projects and finances the participation of representatives of Ukraine in these events. This work will continue in the future. ”
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 November 2018 13: 34
        0
        They can say anything, but actions are completely different.
    4. figwam
      figwam 28 November 2018 13: 17
      +4
      This will be the last line for us.

      The US Naval Operations Center in Ochakovo has been under construction for a long time, and I won’t be surprised that the construction of the next base or ground military center will be approved.
    5. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 28 November 2018 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      in creating an American military base in Ukraine

      This will be the last line for us.

      The line is passed, long ago !!! Time "beats" the countdown, unfortunately ((
    6. sak1969
      sak1969 28 November 2018 13: 39
      -2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      in creating an American military base in Ukraine

      This will be the last line for us.

      This is the fulfillment of the Americans' promises to disrupt the construction of the Russian gas pipeline.
      Last line for us!? Our state is so squeezing us that we can’t stop breathing.
      If only the oligarchs did not run away.
    7. Antares
      Antares 28 November 2018 23: 53
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      in creating an American military base in Ukraine

      This will be the last line for us.

      it will be difficult then to do
      they will say that they redirected Iskander to her and that’s all. And in general, more bases, more goals.
      Isn't that "Fighting bases"?
      a couple of US military facilities already exist.
  3. Boris Nevzorov
    Boris Nevzorov 28 November 2018 12: 49
    +5
    Patsyuk opened his mouth, looked at the dumplings and opened his mouth even more. At this time, the dumpling splashed out of the bowl, plopped into sour cream, rolled over to the other side, jumped up and just hit his mouth. Patsyuk ate and opened his mouth again, and the dumpling in the same order set off again. He only accepted the labor of chewing and swallowing.
    ______________
    Nikolai Vasilievich was a radiologist of the Svidomo attitude to life)
  4. lot
    lot 28 November 2018 12: 56
    +1
    Well .. - find out how much "dead donkey ears" cost
  5. Sergey39
    Sergey39 28 November 2018 12: 59
    +2
    "Kiev is negotiating" - this is from the series "Kiev has been at war with Russia for the fifth year." Washington then denies.
  6. BAI
    BAI 28 November 2018 13: 02
    -1
    Kiev sees that Warsaw is actively negotiating with the US administration to deploy a military base on its territory.

    Poland itself a billion bucks will pay for this base. And who will pay for the Ukrainian?
  7. Comrade Beria
    Comrade Beria 28 November 2018 13: 02
    +1
    Poland is ready to invest up to $ 2 billion in the creation of a permanent US military base. The American armored division stationed in the country should restrain Russia's aggression, Warsaw believes

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/28/05/2018/5b0b62c59a7947b2a573b305


    Does the father of the ataman Peter Vrichesky have a gold reserve?
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 28 November 2018 13: 26
      0
      Personally, he has !!)) And you?))
      I don’t) I don’t even know if this is good or bad)))
      I think that an extra fear, for him, will only harm me ..)) because it needs to be preserved / increased / protected laughing
      It is better to take care of the family, health, positive impressions than its safety)))) drinks
      1. Comrade Beria
        Comrade Beria 28 November 2018 13: 49
        0
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        And you?))

        Why are you interested in? )))
        1. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 28 November 2018 13: 53
          0
          Tax ins
  8. LMN
    LMN 28 November 2018 13: 07
    +15
    The last time the mention of the "US military base" ended for Ukraine with the loss of Crimea.
    Let's see how this time ..
    1. cniza
      cniza 28 November 2018 13: 35
      +4
      Do not frighten it quietly, otherwise you will change your mind.
      1. spec.78
        spec.78 28 November 2018 18: 14
        +1
        Similar bases are created as bases of the occupying forces. The most interesting thing is that the Americans do not stand on ceremony with the local population, just look at Japan and the latest teachings. Then the Natsiks themselves will cry that they don’t have much fun for their dressing-up girls, or they will just use it for free. And in the case of a real war ...... if we normally survive the first disarming strike (which is most likely), then any of these bases is just a target with suicide bombers
  9. AlexG83
    AlexG83 28 November 2018 13: 07
    +4
    I hope our government will not chew snot on this occasion. As I imagine the NATO base in Kharkov, hanging around like at home, some English soldiers, horror.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 November 2018 13: 11
      0
      Why are you laughing about "our government" ... sad
  10. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 28 November 2018 13: 14
    +1
    The situation is like in an old joke. And for not able to fly Poroshenko too much is produced.
  11. sgr291158
    sgr291158 28 November 2018 13: 15
    +2
    Vryatli amerikosy subscribe to the base. They needed Crimea, there is already a ready base.
    1. Avior
      Avior 28 November 2018 14: 40
      -4
      nafik them Crimea?
      1. spec.78
        spec.78 28 November 2018 18: 16
        +1
        There is still not the worst port in Odessa. Only if there are Balls and Bastions in Crimea does it become a trap. One salvo and the entire base will go under water
      2. ALEXXX1983
        ALEXXX1983 28 November 2018 18: 28
        0
        Quote: Avior
        nafik them Crimea?

        They were going to base their fleet there, and this would be a complete northern furry animal for the Russian Federation. For this reason, Crimea is now again Russian.
  12. shans2
    shans2 28 November 2018 13: 20
    0
    US bases no longer save anyone, the Taliban and others go by in droves in droves, and Russia is not a hindrance at all, they will knead it along with the base)))
    1. sak1969
      sak1969 28 November 2018 14: 41
      -1
      Quote: shans2
      US bases no longer save anyone, the Taliban and others go by in droves in droves, and Russia is not a hindrance at all, they will knead it along with the base)))

      Any war is an economic component. Our economy is geared towards export ...
      And what is “our elite” they did not buy villas over the seas, oceans. For hard-earned money. And with the departure of the problem, Blood money (or bloody) is wrung out. Well, who will like it.
      And then some kind of Crimea, the DNI, the LC, Syria, Ukraine. Damn them.
      The Russian Federation seems to be inside the "iron maiden" (especially not to move, you are being pressed for, moved, sanctions).
      Unfinished projects of the Russian Federation such as gas pipelines. (these are pain points.)
      Russia will jerk a lot, turn off SWIFT. But we have our WORLD. The truth is on their hardware, with the components of their software. And with agents of influence in Russian banks. (Sabotage is provided.)
      The Russian Federation will behave exactly as much as it has the strength.
  13. senima56
    senima56 28 November 2018 13: 30
    +2
    For that, everything was started to shout to "Uncle Sam": "Help! They are killing! Create a base! Take them to NATO!"
  14. pros000007
    pros000007 28 November 2018 13: 43
    +2
    MDA, proser in 2014 in New Russia, we will still have a long whiff (We’ll just be a scribe if the Americans deploy their medium-range missiles somewhere near Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, or Nikolaev
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 28 November 2018 13: 43
    0
    Invest in dill, sales in the form of a military base ??? Let's see how much and with whom the durimeter is over the top!
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 28 November 2018 14: 14
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Invest in dill, sales in the form of a military base ??? Let's see how much and with whom the durimeter is over the top!

      He is preparing to cover himself, and if it doesn’t work out, then to wash away in time with the fattened, but the Americans will not let him go so easily. The states will skim the skin off him, this is not "yanyk" from houses in the Russian Federation, they will let this in full flow ... yes
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 November 2018 14: 19
        +1
        Yes, at the pan of a chocolate pig, a couple of airplanes are standing in pairs! Drifting to friends in .... the choice is really not great. You can’t reach where you want on a light airplane, without refueling, and where you don’t really want to, there its owner easily sniffs it!
  16. XXXIII
    XXXIII 28 November 2018 14: 11
    -1
    Kiev began negotiations on the creation of a US base in the country
    Yeah, they will feed the beggars and fight for them, the "petrokh" campaign received an overdose, after the attack on the maritime borders of Russia ... fool
  17. Berg berg
    Berg berg 28 November 2018 14: 25
    0
    as soon as the Ukros announce the creation of a western military base on their territory. Russia immediately recognizes LDNR in its historical borders and introduces its troops or sends troops of South Ossetia there.
  18. Avior
    Avior 28 November 2018 14: 39
    -2
    Putin's great success, however.
    Mnogohodovshchik is strong! lol
    PS Interestingly, but in Tula might organize an American base? laughing
  19. brn521
    brn521 28 November 2018 14: 43
    0
    And what is the use of this for the Americans? They needed a base in Crimea. To replace the Russian.
  20. Yeraz
    Yeraz 28 November 2018 16: 04
    +1
    Many experts are sure that Russia and its CSTO allies will take the initiative to create a base as a provocation
    I see directly how Armenia next door to which the country of NATO and Kyrgyzstan with Tajikistan (which also has a huge contingent of troops of Western countries in Afghanistan), uhh, they will take it as a provocation, they will probably call ambassadors, they will give notes of protest)))) except for laughter does not cause anything.
    Only Russia and possibly Belarus will take it that way, well, certainly not the rest of the allies in the CSTO, especially against the backdrop of the crisis within the CSTO between the allies.
  21. 046
    046 28 November 2018 16: 08
    -2
    Americans did not yet understand who they were dealing with when they got in touch with Ukraine, Ukrainians will ruin NATO by their actions
  22. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 November 2018 16: 11
    0
    ..but what about Trump's base in Poland?
  23. Mgero34
    Mgero34 28 November 2018 21: 17
    0
    Vas uje nekto ne pomojet.
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 28 November 2018 22: 02
    0
    Let them not dream! Rowing chestnuts from the fire is the lot of servants, not the owners!