In the UK, called the cause of the fire on the icebreaker "Viktor Chernomyrdin"

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The fire at the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker being built in St. Petersburg was caused by workers' failure to observe safety rules during construction work, reports RIA News the message of the North-West Investigation Department of the Transport Committee of the Russian Federation.



According to the department, a criminal case has been initiated, an investigation is underway.

The fire became known on Tuesday around 17: 00. As reported by the Emergencies Ministry in St. Petersburg, fire exploration found a fire on the third and fourth decks of a diesel-electric icebreaker under construction. The fire spread to the area around 300 square. m. The rank of fire increased to third.

By now, the fire has been completely extinguished. Two people were injured. One of them is a contractor employee. With the burn of both hands, he was taken to hospital. The condition of the worker is assessed as heavy.



Fire damaged cables, ship equipment, plating technical premises. A special commission has been established at the enterprise to determine the causes of the incident.

Earlier, the press service of the shipyards reported that according to preliminary data, the fire started in the boiler room of the vessel due to violation of safety regulations during the execution of works by the contracting organization.

Recall the construction of the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker began in 2012 year by order of the FSUE "Rosmorport". It was originally intended to transfer it to the customer by the end of 2015. However, the construction was delayed. At the beginning of 2016, the manufacturer announced that the vessel would be commissioned in the 4 quarter of 2018.

The icebreaker displacement is 22,25 ths. Tons, length is 142 meters, width is 29 meters, power is 25 MW.
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  1. +26
    28 November 2018 11: 47
    For what merits did the icebreaker be named after Chernomyrdin? Or is it some other Chernomyrdin?
    1. +22
      28 November 2018 11: 50
      For aphorisms))), for example, this "wanted the best, but it turned out as always"
      In principle, it was necessary to call the icebreaker
      1. +9
        28 November 2018 12: 05
        Quote: vkl.47
        "they wanted the best, but it turned out as always"

        Yes, there are many things you can use:
        "We always have the wrong thing in Russia."
        "At least put you on the priest, at least in a different position - all the same there is no sense!"
        "Here you are not here!"
      2. +6
        28 November 2018 13: 36
        Quote: vkl.47
        for example, this "wanted the best, but it turned out as always"

        And this one too - "It never happened and, suddenly, again."
      3. +8
        28 November 2018 14: 31
        "What do you call a yacht" - well, further in the text
    2. +13
      28 November 2018 11: 52
      Chernomyrdin, we must pay tribute to the fact that he did not allow to give the gas industry to private hands, following the example of the oil industry, despite the most powerful pressure. In this, his unconditional merit. Another question: what has become the largest state corporation. But this question must be asked to other persons.
    3. +1
      28 November 2018 12: 01
      They even called my "Alma Mater" .. Former VZPI ..
      1. 0
        28 November 2018 22: 17
        So how is it? Now all graduates speak exclusively aphorisms?
    4. +7
      28 November 2018 12: 06
      Quote: solzh
      For what merits did the icebreaker be named after Chernomyrdin?

      Everything is simple, he answered: "My life was spent in an atmosphere of oil and gas."
    5. +7
      28 November 2018 12: 19
      "whatever you call the boat, so it will float" .... but if in essence, then apparently the contractor's personnel do not have the proper qualifications and discipline.
      1. +3
        28 November 2018 15: 07
        At the beginning of 2016, the manufacturer announced that the vessel will be commissioned in the 4th quarter of 2018.

        I think the reason is precisely this. So that the Bosko don’t fly by the end of the year (for gouging and theft), we decided to write off everything to a fire. Well-known and well-known reception
  2. +7
    28 November 2018 11: 48
    The name of the icebreaker is just inspiring. Why not Boris Yeltsin?
    1. +10
      28 November 2018 11: 51
      Boriski has a whole center. Good.
      1. +3
        28 November 2018 11: 59
        It will not be enough. Center on earth. Must be still on the water. Still in the air (You can assign a name to the father of Russian democracy to some Tu-95 (160).) But it’s better for the airplane whose chassis he sprinkled for doggy. And as the top of the epic in space, call him the name of the newly discovered star. Why not. And the hydrant of the constitution will certainly not be against such an honor to honor its predecessor. He, too, must think about his honors.
        1. +1
          28 November 2018 12: 26
          Quote: Vlad 63
          It will not be enough. Center on earth. Must be still on the water. Still in the air (You can assign a name to the father of Russian democracy to some Tu-95 (160).) But it’s better for the airplane whose chassis he sprinkled for doggy. And as the top of the epic in space, call him the name of the newly discovered star. Why not. And the hydrant of the constitution will certainly not be against such an honor to honor its predecessor. He, too, must think about his honors.

          I wouldn’t envy those pilots whose board would have intended to call them by that name ((Probably, for this reason, no ..!
        2. +3
          28 November 2018 12: 28
          Or maybe his name is such a name? You can also go to Mikhail Gorbachev, and to Mazepa, and Vlasov with Mannerheim and Kolchak!
          1. +1
            28 November 2018 13: 02
            My post is just sarcasm, Mister Creed. About Kolchak, by the way, the film for the state. millions have removed "Admiral" names. A commemorative plaque about Mannerheim was pinned, if I am not mistaken, in the homeland of the sun, and perhaps there at the opening of the Min-r Cult lit up (this is not accurate, there is no time to check.) In some cities of this country, during the procession, the immortal regiment banned the Victory Banner and portraits of I.V. Stalin. The Vlasov case lives on. So timidly, but incrementally. Well, Mazepa is a crest! It's too early to make heroes. We are walking along Ukrainian rails, at the head of the great helmsman.
          2. +2
            28 November 2018 13: 11
            Quote: Mr Credo
            Or maybe his name is such a name? You can also go to Mikhail Gorbachev, and to Mazepa, and Vlasov with Mannerheim and Kolchak!

            Yes, it is better to call the ships by the names of animals, for example - "Arctic fox" ..... fellow

            In general, I don’t understand why to call the names of people "objects", you can just put a monument. There won't be enough for everyone, but there are many names. And this icebreaker was probably named that because "Chernomyrdin" had great success in diversifying the natural resources of the Russian Federation .... hi
        3. +3
          28 November 2018 13: 40
          Quote: Vlad 63
          It is possible to assign a name to the father of Russian democracy to some Tu-95 (160).

          I would refuse to fly on this.
          1. +1
            28 November 2018 13: 44
            Stepan, hi . Question. Name the names of the sides with the consent of the crew? And can a pilot refuse to fly a car due to the fact that he does not like the name or board number, for example 13 or 666? Just wondering .
            1. +1
              28 November 2018 13: 52
              Quote: Vlad 63
              Stepan, hi . Question. Name the names of the sides with the consent of the crew? And can a pilot refuse to fly a car due to the fact that he does not like the name or board number, for example 13 or 666? Just wondering .

              You can think of any reason, for example - "I can't fly, something has taken my stomach."
            2. 0
              28 November 2018 15: 10
              Do flyers have tail number 13?
              1. +3
                28 November 2018 16: 48
                Quote: Serg 122
                Do flyers have tail number 13?

                We had such a number in the regiment until 1970. Then renamed.
    2. +1
      28 November 2018 13: 03
      there are enough names ..., it is not clear why the icebreakers will drive them ...
      1. +3
        28 November 2018 16: 12
        At one time, the neighbor called Chernomyrdin the piglet, an excellent hog has grown.
        Until this icebreaker drowned, it should urgently be renamed.
        The name of any settlement is suitable, well, at least, Kem or Chupa.
        Everything is better than Chernomordin.
  3. +8
    28 November 2018 11: 49
    Ignition at the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker under construction in St. Petersburg

    What do you call a yacht ... recourse
    1. +1
      28 November 2018 12: 07
      What can you say about the ships named "Admiral Nakhimov"?
      1. +1
        28 November 2018 12: 08
        Quote: alexhol
        What can you say about the ships named "Admiral Nakhimov"?

        There are simply unlucky names, but there are names in which it is already incorporated.
    2. +4
      28 November 2018 12: 32
      Well, Chernomyrdin doesn’t cause negative emotions. More likely a native of the people. His sayings are somehow very appropriate and reflect the essence of the issue. This has never happened! And here again!
      1. +1
        29 November 2018 11: 30
        It was a very simple and correct man. Aphorisms from the fact that without a mat could not be explained physically, but, possessing inhuman willpower, forced himself. No luck to him over time. In Stalin's days, he would have been like Ustinov, and in Yeltsin’s, Chubais was in favor and people like Primakov, Vyakhirev, Chernomyrdin, formally occupying a very high position in society, could not oppose Berezovsky, Chubais, Gaidar etc, etc.
  4. +2
    28 November 2018 11: 51
    ... another human factor ... victims of a speedy recovery ... but everyone knows that TB is written in blood, and whoever sacrifices it becomes a victim ...
    1. +2
      28 November 2018 12: 00
      Apparently many have forgotten how to work. Or the younger generation did not learn in shipyards, fires are already in the order of things.
      1. +8
        28 November 2018 12: 04
        It's not about "forgotten how" or the younger "generation". It's about the system. Uncles are bosses, they save on everything. On safety as well.
      2. +2
        28 November 2018 12: 22
        Quote: DenZ
        Apparently many have forgotten how to work. Or the younger generation did not learn in shipyards, fires are already in the order of things.

        There is no control, and elementary sloppiness is obvious.
        In 2012, a fire at the dock at the Yekaterinburg nuclear submarine, in 2015 at the Zvezdochka dock, a fire at the Oryol nuclear submarine, and it burned so that the dock had to be submerged.
        Apparently, the conclusions of the investigation remained only on paper.
      3. +1
        28 November 2018 13: 42
        Quote: DenZ
        Apparently many have forgotten how to work.

        Razdolbaev enough at all times. The question is different - who allows them to work?
  5. +1
    28 November 2018 11: 51
    Once again we bang our heads against a wall called "negligence, non-observance of safety measures." It is clear that the human factor is always present, but you need to carry out appropriate work to improve compliance with safety requirements and the general consciousness of workers!
    1. +3
      28 November 2018 12: 43
      What kind of employees are we talking about? About effective managers? What kind of security? Will manage to spend an extra penny! Fire extinguishers There is water! So stress! Turn off the voltage! Well, who will buy powder fire extinguishers for walking distance? What a cost! And how many cases when the state of emergency in production is hidden and offered to be agreed? Well death cannot be hidden. But the injury is possible. If you increase the awareness of workers, so are the guidelines. Nefig create conditions when you have to work more than 8 hours.
      1. +1
        2 December 2018 20: 46
        I do not argue with your opinion at all. "Effective" in words, but in fact "defective", managers have already gotten everyone. And yes, the fish rots from the head. And working conditions also depend on the management. But in collectives there are people everywhere, and the corresponding work must go on at all levels. IMHO
  6. +4
    28 November 2018 11: 52
    Again headache and sloppiness. It is necessary to punish the leaders of the contracting organization and those who hired them, most likely, possibly for kickbacks. am Guys from the TFR to send there.
  7. 0
    28 November 2018 11: 52
    This is a hello to us from the western intelligence services. Do not doze off.
    1. +9
      28 November 2018 11: 59
      Quote: Tank jacket
      This is a hello to us from the western intelligence services. Do not doze off.

      Yeah! Especially if the enemy is in our heads. They call greed, according to ... changes, and a desire to earn as little work as possible by stealing posts, that's why the deadlines are postponed, prices go up, and professionals leave, not wanting to work for nothing. Uzbeks or brothers from 404 were involved in the decoration.
      1. +2
        28 November 2018 12: 01
        Well, you yourself answered and there was a greedy person who wants to be lifted from him. Who is he?
      2. +1
        28 November 2018 12: 44
        Mar. Tira - it is likely that this is exactly the case. I drove along Obukhovskoy Oborony Avenue in St. Petersburg, past the Almaz-Antey plant ... and so, I was surprised and shocked by the number of Asians from the former Soviet republics coming out of the gate of the plant, this is not a construction site for a residential complex, and the military-industrial complex
        1. 0
          28 November 2018 13: 19
          Quote: Sayan
          Mar. Tira - it is likely that this is so. I drove along Obukhovskoy Oborony Avenue in St. Petersburg, past the Almaz-Antey plant ... and so, I was surprised and shocked by the number of Asians from the former Soviet republics leaving the gate of the plant, it's not a building site of a residential complex, and the enterprise MIC
          Well, why not the construction site, they are building premises, repairing, demolishing old buildings, working a lot .... hi
  8. 0
    28 November 2018 11: 54
    ,,, And with whom to ask, I ask you? These are there, those are here, and those still no one has ever ... © Man and Icebreaker smile
    1. 0
      28 November 2018 13: 17
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, And with whom to ask, I ask you? These are there, those are here, and those still no one has ever ... © Man and Icebreaker smile

      Ask the factory management and in full, before asking, the chief, deputy, accountant, will be removed from work for the period of the investigation ..... hi
  9. +1
    28 November 2018 11: 55
    As always - a contractor. If already hired from the side, then watch how they work!
  10. HAM
    +5
    28 November 2018 11: 58
    "... Initially it was supposed to transfer it to the customer by the end of 2015. However, the construction was delayed."

    There are vague associations with Ukrainian military depots ... don’t you find it! ??
    1. +1
      28 November 2018 12: 16
      + to you for your foresight.
  11. +3
    28 November 2018 11: 59
    Quote: REEKMAN
    Once again we bang our heads against a wall called "negligence, non-observance of safety measures." It is clear that the human factor is always present, but you need to carry out appropriate work to improve compliance with safety requirements and the general consciousness of workers!

    Elementary. Staff cut. Skilled workers themselves leave.
    The submarine over there was on fire. There should have been a fire post installed from 2 (and suddenly one went pi-pi), if I'm not mistaken by the attendants who are standing and ready to eliminate the fire at the very beginning. But this is uh what kind of money O__O pay two workers who "do nothing" for several months. As a result, billions of losses.
    For such "economy" of leaders for deliberate sabotage and treason to the Motherland should be judged.
    1. +1
      28 November 2018 12: 49
      So Duc capitalism! Why pay to someone who does not produce? This is not a core asset! The main economic efficiency! Well, optimization and cost reduction have come out!
  12. +1
    28 November 2018 11: 59
    Ignition at the Viktor Chernomyrdin icebreaker under construction in St. Petersburg occurred due to non-compliance by workers with safety rules during construction work
    Recovery at the expense of all the perpetrators, ranging from workers to the topic, who had to control all this. Otherwise we won’t bring order
    1. +2
      28 November 2018 12: 50
      About the workers disagree. Which team was given, that one was executed. hi
      1. 0
        28 November 2018 12: 52
        Quote: Mister Creed
        About the workers disagree. Which team was given, that one was executed.

        Well then let them say who gave them the command to burn this icebreaker. No, everyone should be responsible, otherwise there will be no order
        1. +1
          28 November 2018 13: 30
          Quote: svp67
          Well then let them say who gave them the command to burn this icebreaker. No, everyone should be responsible, otherwise there will be no order

          Most likely this is a safety precaution, where something is not seen or worked with flammable and combustible liquids .... request hi
        2. +1
          28 November 2018 21: 13
          Of course, no one gave commands to shoot. But perhaps there was an instruction to do something contrary to safety precautions. It is strange that similar cases occur in similar organizations. In theory, everything should be clearly and observed under the record.
  13. +1
    28 November 2018 12: 02
    what you call a ship, so it will sail))))
  14. 0
    28 November 2018 12: 24
    "Whatever you call a yacht, so it will float" © Captain Vrungel. Although Chernomyrdin is now represented as a statesman and the head of the highest flight. Compared to the current ones, yes. At least his aphorisms were funnier "No money, but you hold on" nedimon.
  15. 0
    28 November 2018 12: 35
    ... the Yeltsin Museum ... the icebreaker Chernomyrdin .... what's next ...? - Lada shakelgruber ....?
  16. 0
    28 November 2018 12: 43
    Using the example of this icebreaker, you begin to believe in the magic of the name of the ship wassat It was built and built at the Baltic Shipyard, and as a result, it wasn’t completed - it was handed over to the Admiralty Shipyards, for which they were always an example for the rest, and here you have a fire! Until they re-name it, there won’t be any sense, even if they finish building it, it will fly at something and again recall the next quote from Viktor Stepanych. Yes
  17. +1
    28 November 2018 12: 44
    I goof in this zoo !!! At once rake, one and the same!
    He worked in the Baltic, put their equipment on ships! People worked, it was difficult and a glove compartment — with some, usually before testing .... for 8 years, not a single fire on ships! The inspectors are different, a bunch of instructions that had to TEACH, REDUCE and FOLLOW!
    Ugh, no words, only expressions left!
    1. +1
      28 November 2018 13: 39
      Quote: rocket757
      Ugh, no words, only expressions left!
      +
      I've seen the working kitchen of the work of one VPK plant with contractors, money laundering and winning tenders, it’s 110% affiliated. And everything else is in the background .....crying hi
      1. +1
        28 November 2018 13: 51
        Quote: XXXIII
        money laundering and winning tenders

        This is the well-known TROUBLE / CRIME! We, the Soviets, cannot understand this, cannot accept it!
        Again I can say that Chubais is not to blame for everything !!! These are concrete faces sitting in very high offices ..... everything else, these are consequences!
        There will be no such thing, the master will come, the master will judge us! The master is clearly in SHARE! soldier
        1. +1
          28 November 2018 14: 00
          Quote: rocket757
          There will be no such thing, the master will come, the master will judge us!

          Well, they will pass first with those who were responsible for the place of work and in a row, etc. But who compensates the costs for losses after the fire, the plant from its own funds, which is already lacking. And if the contractor is charged a fine, then he declares himself bankrupt and it turns out that no one is to blame, but it happened .... negative
          1. 0
            28 November 2018 14: 25
            Rake, rake .... although for some reason we call it, effective management !!!
            EVERYBODY KNOW EVERYTHING, the natural course of events ...... WHY no one will answer for this, so sit down for a long time, although it would be more efficient if you smear foreheads with zelenka beforehand, they would not be forgotten!
            I don’t feel like talking about every little thing that will be appointed ....
  18. Kaw
    +1
    28 November 2018 12: 46
    In vain the name of the ship. Still they would have called Mikhail Gorbachev.
  19. BAI
    0
    28 November 2018 13: 04
    It was supposed to transfer it to the customer before the end of 2015. However, the construction was delayed. At the beginning of 2016, the manufacturer announced that the vessel will be commissioned in the 4th quarter of 2018.

    At that pace, but with fires (not to say - with a twinkle), it is good if they surrender after 1920.
  20. +1
    28 November 2018 13: 21
    Found what to call the ship!
    "We wanted the best, it worked out - as always ..."
    As you call a ship, it will sail!
  21. 0
    28 November 2018 13: 51
    I don’t want to whine, but in the USSR, whatever it was, for such an emergency the head would be immediately deprived of the annual bonus ... and the office would pay for disability for life ... Now everything is much simpler. The employee's health - his personal grief, technical safety - did not rest against anyone .. Losses? Yes, we will shift the terms - just business! Why did they stick to the name? )) And in the Soviet Union the ships were called randomly .. I remember a series of river-sea called "try-you-you some party congress number such and such" is a great name. Especially when the port dispatcher negotiates with him on the radio .. The most useless in my memory the renaming of the ship was also in the Soviet era .. this is when the nuclear-powered icebreaker "Arktika", the world's first surface vessel that reached the North Pole in 1977, was renamed a few years later in "Leonid Brezhnev" .. and after all "Arctic" is an order-bearing ship, the Order of the October Revolution was attached to the wheelhouse .. Tore it off .. painted over .. such nonsense. Chernomyrdin is not the worst name for a ship .. But it would be better if diesel locomotives were named after those who, together with Yeltsin, never got on the rails ..
  22. +2
    28 November 2018 14: 06
    Interestingly, the ship "Chubais" will be? Sobchak? "Naina Yeltsina"? Gaidar?
  23. 0
    28 November 2018 14: 15
    As you call a steamboat, so he will walk (swim). The unenviable fate will be for those servants who work on it.
    Remember the readers of "VO" how this prime minister spoke with Basayev. He turned to him when he captured Budyonnovsk. The address was as follows: "Comrade Basayev .........."
  24. 0
    28 November 2018 14: 46
    As you call a ship, so he ...
  25. 0
    28 November 2018 14: 54
    Well, "We wanted the best, it turned out, as always" .. All the bulkheads in the aphorisms of this atheist in any way ..
  26. +1
    28 November 2018 17: 04
    as you call a ship, it’ll float))) found who to call, no words ..
  27. 0
    28 November 2018 17: 28
    What do you call a yacht, so it will sail ..
  28. +1
    28 November 2018 17: 56
    the fire occurred due to the fact that the icebreaker was badly called
  29. 0
    28 November 2018 22: 31
    Jokes are jokes, but the number of all kinds of "accidental" fires is annoying. The number of fires and other "incidents", including naval ones, has increased since 2014 more than is possible due to the natural course of events.
  30. 0
    29 November 2018 11: 32
    Well, as always, we pay big losses for a cheap contracting company. Now it is necessary to dismantle and replace the damaged equipment, cables, etc. Everything is according to the fairy tale of A.S. Pushkin - "you wouldn't be chasing cheapness, your forehead would not suffer!" Workers with high qualifications are paid more expensively, and open-minded owners save on wages, trying to grab as much as possible into their vast pocket. The employer and the contractor are to blame, but the sucker "Vanya" will answer as always, ie inept bonded hard worker. Problems will recur periodically, since the root of problems lies in the ugly laws that govern economic relations.

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