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The arrested military servicemen of the Ukrainian Navy hit the guardhouse

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Lyudmila Lubina, the Commissioner for Human Rights in Crimea, reported that the Ukrainian Navy sailors detained in the Kerch Strait area for violating the border of the Russian Federation were kept in the guardhouse on the territory of one of the military units of the Crimea.




At the moment, the detainees were transported to Simferopol to consider the question of their punishment. Today 12 seafarers will be delivered to the courtroom, on Wednesday - another 9, three wounded are in the hospital.

If the court makes a decision on the arrest of the Ukrainian military, they will be detained in the Simferopol SIZO.

One of the detained sailors informed his girlfriend of the instructions received, and she, in turn, transmitted information to the media. According to her, the servicemen were ordered not to stop and, in the event of firing at their ships, to open fire in return.

One of the detainees, captain of the third rank, Vladimir Lisovoi, said that he ignored the demands to stop consciously. It was also noted that the actions of the Ukrainian ships were provocative.

On Sunday, November 25, three ships of the Ukrainian Navy illegally crossed the Russian border in the Kerch Strait area. The ships did not respond to the demands of the border guards of the Russian Federation and made dangerous maneuvers, because of which the border guards had to apply weapon and detain violators. The FSB opened a case of illegal border crossing.
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Press Service of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Crimea
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 27 November 2018 15: 59
    +10
    Well, what .. Guba. And probably they counted on luxury and city tours? It's also good that the "diesel" was closed in Kerch .. And then there the conditions were oh but ...
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 27 November 2018 16: 06
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, what .. Guba. And probably they counted on luxury and city tours? It's also good that the "diesel" was closed in Kerch .. And then there the conditions were oh but ...

      Well yes . And where they could still put it. They took me to the commandant’s office, and that’s all, up to special instructions. Probably also created special conditions ..
      1. The black
        The black 27 November 2018 16: 17
        +36
        In general, we (Russia) fell into the hands of a unique and very cool opportunity if it is competently approached of course. Make an agitation move out of this case. To show these heroes in all their glory in the rollers, and the rollers need to be combined So to say BEFORE (what they chatted and yelled) and AFTER (what are these heroes in reality) And spread 404 throughout the hole and not only across it but everywhere where they try to grow their own young in the spirit of hatred of Russia and the Russians. Then as they say and the Internet in the hands
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 27 November 2018 16: 20
          0
          They will hate more. Let go, and drown the pelvis publicly
          1. IvanT
            IvanT 27 November 2018 17: 09
            +5
            Of course you can, but the Sykuns will sue, and he will award compensation. They do not need buckets, they want loot.
          2. Nick_R
            Nick_R 27 November 2018 17: 37
            +6
            Let go, and drown the pelvis publicly

            Why clog the sea with all sorts of rubbish?
          3. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 27 November 2018 20: 35
            +4
            Quote: igorbrsv
            They will hate more.

            But where, really, more? laughing
        2. Evdokim
          Evdokim 27 November 2018 17: 11
          +3
          Quote: Black
          Make an agitation move out of this case. Show these heroes in all their glory in the commercials

          Che seriously. Let them cry about the cursed gutting and all that, crest surrender will not be fat, but it’s warm. wassat
        3. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 27 November 2018 17: 32
          +12
          No matter how enemy Savchenko was, but in such a situation she behaved more worthily than these guys. The SBUshnik was especially impressed. Of course, I understand that they are not fed there with diapers and wiped snot, but still they do not look like beaten and broken to death, and there is not much patriotic enthusiasm. Although, in theory, they knew in advance what they were going on, and should have been ready to work for the camera.
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 27 November 2018 18: 00
            +2
            Quote: oleg123219307
            from whatever enemy Savchenko would be, and she, being in a similar situation, behaved more worthily

            But don’t tell me ... After the first arrest, she behaved the same way. I asked that she be pardoned and she would conduct anti-war propaganda against the war in Donbass, and she spoke everything in pure Russian. Our government allowed the Ukrainian side to make it an ardent Russophobia. They will start snot with these, and they will become the same. Democracy, human rights, then this fie .......!
          2. major147
            major147 27 November 2018 20: 19
            +3
            Quote: oleg123219307
            Although, in theory, they knew in advance what they were going on, and should have been ready to work for the camera.

            They show us (the Russians) as stupid "quilted jackets", etc. and they are "supermen". And then there is such a breakdown of the image and a break in the template when faced with reality.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 27 November 2018 16: 29
        +1
        And where else could they put

        To the detention center? Where usually in Kerch detainees put that?
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 27 November 2018 16: 32
          +3
          Quote: alexmach
          And where else could they put

          To the detention center? Where usually in Kerch detainees put that?

          The border guards detained, brought to the commandant’s office, and there they started the investigation and transferred to where it should be before the trial. By the way, the court has already begun to arrest - the first have already gone ..
        2. 210ox
          210ox 27 November 2018 18: 06
          +7
          Well, in general, servicemen, even if they are not imprisoned in a temporary detention facility or in a pre-trial detention center, are not imprisoned in the commandant's office. There are "numbers" there. they have their own there.
    2. Vend
      Vend 27 November 2018 16: 28
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, what .. Guba. And probably they counted on luxury and city tours? It's also good that the "diesel" was closed in Kerch .. And then there the conditions were oh but ...

      Well, not to send them to the sanatorium?
      1. egor egor
        egor egor 27 November 2018 17: 35
        -2
        And why not go to a sanatorium only of a closed type, for example, the island of fire or the white swan
        1. Dmitriy66
          Dmitriy66 27 November 2018 17: 49
          0
          Black Dolphin --- Sol-Iletsk !! Only there !!!
        2. major147
          major147 27 November 2018 20: 22
          +2
          Quote: egor egor
          And why not go to a sanatorium only of a closed type, for example, the island of fire or the white swan

          "If necessary, I will accept exile, hard labor, prison. But preferably in July and preferably in the Crimea!" (from)
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 November 2018 16: 37
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      It's also good that the "diesel" was closed in Kerch .. And then there the conditions were oh but ...

      Judging by the stories on Bigler, the Sevastopol "lip" was also a very memorable place.
    4. raw174
      raw174 27 November 2018 18: 58
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      So what .. Lip.

      Almost certainly Sevastopol. More than once I was on guard duty at it, it was our garrison guard, we took turns, we and the crew ...
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 27 November 2018 20: 10
      +1
      Hmm ... saboteurs stale ... and under the pan the thought does not come that they could already feed the fish. fool
      Well this is what you need to be oligophrenics that are not disfigured by intelligence?
    6. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 28 November 2018 09: 51
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      So what .. Lip.

      "Lip" is different, garrison, district ... In the 90s we were frightened by the "Alesha barracks", everyone returned from there in tatters and with a more meaningful life position ...
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 November 2018 16: 01
    +27
    At least a year. Three for the captains. SBU-Schnick - to the fullest. Boats confiscate.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 27 November 2018 16: 07
      +17
      Captains? There is a captain who pointed a gun at ours. With him a special account.
      1. The black
        The black 27 November 2018 16: 29
        +16
        Quote: 210ox
        Captains? There is a captain who pointed a gun at ours. With him a special account.

        There is the one that is named after the wood lice, generally not a scary hero. Solvim sang how the Black Sea Fleet would sink, about the tactics of a wolf pack he was broadcasting ... now here's the truth, he doesn't sing. The centaur is mooing like not a milking .... in general, it turned out to be not a wolf in the sea, but a jackal-lizobut
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 27 November 2018 16: 59
          +5
          Yeah, it’s not real Donets ...
        2. iaroslav.mudryi
          iaroslav.mudryi 27 November 2018 17: 07
          +17
          From a neighboring thread from a forum member Alena Frolovna (Alena) literary masterpiece on the topic:
          Lightning flames played in the sky
          The anchors sparkled in the darkness.
          “To break through,” said Nebylitsa.
          “Let's get through,” Mokryak answered.

          A bird barked over the boat
          It turns out that soon the earth.
          “Break through,” said Nebylitsa.
          - Break through! - answered Mokryak.

          - We go into foreign borders!
          The sailor gave a report on the watch.
          - Well, with God! - said Nebylitsa.
          - Aha! - agreed Mokryak.

          -I command you to stop! -
          The team pierced through the darkness.
          - According to the plan! - said Nebylitsa.
          - By the notes! - added Mokryak.

          - Let the tugboat pile up,
          Whistle a command on the tank! -
          The commands were given by Fiction,
          Dubbed famously Mokryak ...

          It was getting dark. Walked inland from the border
          Tugging along the waves.
          “Come,” said Nebylitza.
          Mokryak was surprised: Well, nah ?!

          Here’s Kerch’s dry earth,
          On the pier there is an autosack:
          “We’ve reached ...” said Nebylitsa,
          “It seems ...” added Mokryak.

          - Wash in warm water,
          And sleep in a hammock!
          - Dreamed starly Nebylitsa,
          “Citizenship would be,” Mokryak repeated.
          laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    2. Horon
      Horon 27 November 2018 16: 29
      +3
      And what about the border guards who were captured by the Armed Forces during the exercises in the Crimea? Have they been released yet? There were no officers at all, only conscripts!
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 November 2018 21: 02
        0
        Quote: Horon
        And what about the border guards who were captured by the Armed Forces during the exercises in the Crimea? Have they been released yet? There were no officers at all, only conscripts!

        two as Ukrainians (they got the Russian without leaving the Ukrainian) were tried and sentenced them to treason.
        They are serving sentences like ours in Russian prisons. partners especially do not spare ordinary people.
        If you are about those who crossed the administrative border and were detained at the transition.
        1. Horon
          Horon 27 November 2018 22: 05
          +1
          I'm talking about those who got lost during exercises in the Crimea and landed on the Ukrainian coast.
      2. Marconi41
        Marconi41 28 November 2018 00: 05
        +1
        There were no officers at all, only conscripts!
        Border guards have not had conscripts for a long time.
    3. egor egor
      egor egor 27 November 2018 16: 31
      0
      That would be to solder espionage and prepare for the terrorist attack (there were weapons after all), plus the illegal storage and carrying of weapons to solder, then beauty would, of course, take into account upright recognition and cooperation with the investigation, we are a rule of law state
    4. novobranets
      novobranets 27 November 2018 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Three for the captains.

      It will not be enough. It would be necessary to add, master. lol To such assholes as this for example.
      As it turned out, the commander of the Nikopol boat of the Ukrainian Navy is one of the same Crimean sailors who swore allegiance to Kiev after 2014. The so-called "Ukrainian patriot" who abandoned Crimea was the first to surrender FSB special forces during the incident in the Kerch Strait.
    5. major147
      major147 27 November 2018 20: 24
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Boats confiscate.

      Why do we need this painted plywood !?
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 November 2018 21: 04
        +1

        Why do we need this painted plywood !?

        they’re not joking with 30 mm. There the armor is not intended from 30 mm
        Stripes on the Emerald, they would also gap ...
        1. Horon
          Horon 27 November 2018 22: 11
          +4
          A 30 mm ship’s gun leaves a small hole in the side and explodes overboard, causing maximum damage inside. There is a delay in the detonation. This hole is not from a gun!
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 28 November 2018 11: 13
            0
            Quote: Horon
            This hole is not from a gun!

            When the team was knitted, the border guards accidentally hit with a butt. Come on, they’ll hammer something.
            1. Horon
              Horon 28 November 2018 11: 21
              0
              It's ridiculous! But what really pierced the hole, I don’t understand. If the ammunition was without delay, then where are the traces of fragments? If you’ve got a sack, then what should be the caliber? I saw how the ammunition works with a delay, there are several small holes on the wall, everything is splintered behind the wall. Such ammunition would not leave the team a chance to remain intact!
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 28 November 2018 11: 31
                +1
                Visually, the caliber of the disc (the most likely way to dig such a hole) should be about 60 mm, if not more. On boats, border guards do not have such weapons. RPG also disappears, no traces of soot. Please note that the paint on the rails near the hole is not even scratched. It may have been damaged during towing or mooring. The devil knows what it’s about. what
                1. Horon
                  Horon 28 November 2018 12: 29
                  +1
                  The devil knows what it is

                  Here I am about that! hi
  3. Elephant
    Elephant 27 November 2018 16: 11
    -5
    Strange methods - all to the guardhouse! I do not understand. It was necessary immediately after the capture (while in a state of shock) to isolate the uko-sailors from each other, to exclude their conversion. Interrogate and work with them. We could learn a lot more interesting things. But they have been teaching poorly lately in the academies. On the other hand, the "newly minted" people love to ride on heliks and celebrate on a grand scale ...
    1. Zaval
      Zaval 27 November 2018 16: 42
      +12
      Do you, dear, probably about 10 years of investigative experience or about 20 years of opera? Of all the detainees, 2 SBU officers and 3 ship commanders are of interest, to a lesser extent. On the issue of joint content: on the lip, officers will hold back separately from the rank-and-file and sergeant, sorry senior officers, staff. In addition, their line of conduct in case of detention was probably already agreed upon during the training in Odessa and they will adhere to it. And a lot of interesting things: this is from ZAS equipment and documents. Their guilt was proved upon the fact of being detained in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation on warships with uncovered weapons, a chronology of events and a record of negotiations.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 27 November 2018 17: 04
        +2
        I really doubt sooo that there is an AAS on boats.
        1. Zaval
          Zaval 27 November 2018 17: 17
          +7
          The fact that the ZAS equipment was in good working order and with documents was on the boats and "got" to our border guards. It was with the help of her that the SBU officers coordinated their actions and received instructions from the command. This was said both on television channels, as it was on our website.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 27 November 2018 17: 35
        +4
        Quote: ZAVal
        You, dear, probably about 10 years of investigative experience or about 20 years of opera? Of all the detainees, 2 SBU officers and 3 ship commanders are of interest, to a lesser extent

        Alexander, I have neither one nor the other. Apparently, therefore, I can’t understand why 23 people need these pelvis? Can you explain? belay
        Why so many weapons? Let no one go, let them sit down. I would have organized an excursion for them along the Crimean bridge and, in general, to look at the Crimea. Maybe then they will understand why the Crimeans do not want into their wretched Bandera.
        1. Zaval
          Zaval 27 November 2018 19: 46
          +3
          Well, nobody is going to arrange a tour of the Crimea for them, and rightly so, we ask you to go for a guided tour at any time, but without weapons and through the existing checkpoints. They will sit in the Simferopol pre-trial detention center, and then, as the FSIN orders. But why double crews on boats? It is necessary to ask the commanders and SBUshnikov, although this is not important.
      3. Elephant
        Elephant 27 November 2018 17: 42
        +1
        Alexander, the human factor has not been canceled. I would have looked at lice iron composure after capture with shooting and kicks in the ass. And what Odessa suckers, and could not have calculated the possibility of force majeure and the destruction of the ZAS?
        1. Zaval
          Zaval 27 November 2018 19: 38
          0
          Until recently, I also thought that: "There are no sick or sick people in Odessa," but it turned out
          that in Odessa, suckers, and could not figure out the possibility of force majeure and the destruction of ZAS
          repeat
          1. Antares
            Antares 27 November 2018 21: 07
            -1
            Quote: ZAVal
            that in Odessa, suckers, and could not figure out the possibility of force majeure and the destruction of ZAS

            why did they get that they had it or was not destroyed?
            The statements of the FSB are much for internal use. Yes, and an urgent search for trump cards for playing political games.
            1. Zaval
              Zaval 27 November 2018 21: 34
              +3
              And do not have any trump cards already. The faults of the crews of the boats and the tugboat were proved by the very fact of their detention in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation, notice in the part that they were without the Crimea, on warships, with uncovered weapons that do not comply with the requirements of the border guards. Everything else: the presence of SBUshnikov, double crews, ZAS equipment, documents, this is a bonus. Additional material for investigators in the evidence base of planning, constant coordination and willingness to open fire. Ukraine has played political games and for this it is time to punish it.
    2. Tamek
      Tamek 27 November 2018 16: 44
      +2
      Well, what can you find out? The boys just followed orders. And in order to learn the secrets of the royal court, the king needs to insert a microphone in his ass. it's complicated
    3. IvanT
      IvanT 27 November 2018 17: 10
      +2
      Do not mind it. Not your level ....
    4. Dmitriy66
      Dmitriy66 27 November 2018 18: 27
      0
      Majors ride on heliks, then they shuffle at headquarters, they serve them in the fields.
  4. Black sniper
    Black sniper 27 November 2018 16: 18
    +2
    In Simferopol, by the decision of the court, the first detained man in custody was arrested until 25.01.19/5/XNUMX on TV for XNUMX minutes. reported back.
    1. iaroslav.mudryi
      iaroslav.mudryi 27 November 2018 17: 50
      +4
      From Kassad:
      The Simferpol court arrested two Ukrainian violators for 2 months - until 25 January 2019 years.
      Today, in working order, 10 people will be considered, the rest a little later.
      The arrest for 2 months transparently hints that they will not be given them away for nothing, and, perhaps, they will be offered to exchange them for Russian citizens held in Ukraine - the captain of "Nord", an RT journalist, and so on.
      With regard to boats and a tug, it would be appropriate to consider the option of exchanging them for Nord and other vessels seized by Ukraine.
      All in all, a great catch for the FSB.

      https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/4606581.html
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 27 November 2018 16: 25
    +2
    Again, some rumors, damn it .... He told the girl (and why not grandmother?) And she quickly disheveled the whole world ...
    And the phrase "I ignored the command to stop deliberately ..."
    Is it possible not consciously? Like I accidentally? !!
    And how else can a military man, an officer, act ?!
  6. The whistle
    The whistle 27 November 2018 16: 25
    +4
    These heroes are probably happy ... They will obviously be well paid for this action! I hope they will be sent somewhere to the tundra after the trial. For such a punishment is strictly necessary! Otherwise, others will climb.
  7. purple
    purple 27 November 2018 16: 40
    +2
    One of the detained sailors informed his girlfriend of the instructions received, and she, in turn, transmitted information to the media. According to her, the servicemen were ordered not to stop and, in the event of firing at their ships, to open fire in return.


    The girl finally burns ... her boyfriend was too tired of her to hike, "gave him a harmelon on the air"
  8. dr.star75
    dr.star75 27 November 2018 16: 41
    -1
    What is a guardhouse? Are they military men of the Russian Federation? They should immediately be sent to jail.
  9. BAI
    BAI 27 November 2018 16: 53
    +4
    There are injuries from fragments of armor. Some kind of strange armor - is it cracking? And what was they shooting at?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 27 November 2018 17: 01
      +4
      There wasn’t enough denyuh for alloying additives.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 27 November 2018 18: 37
        0
        Quote: BAI
        Some kind of strange armor - is it cracking?

        And what did you want - it's candy wrappers from "Roshenok". smile
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 27 November 2018 17: 07
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      There are injuries from fragments of armor. Some kind of strange armor - is it cracking? And what was they shooting at?

      They write that 30 mm shells And what kind of armor this is, they could be made of pressed cardboard under the authority in Ukraine and issued at a price for the armor
    3. iaroslav.mudryi
      iaroslav.mudryi 27 November 2018 17: 35
      +1
      I would not trust sources with a dubious reputation (DonPress) and still quote from there:
      according to operational information from the SBU, one of the Russian attack aircraft used two unguided missiles against Ukrainian boats, as a result of which one of the SBU officers was seriously wounded
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 27 November 2018 18: 25
        +2
        Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
        I would not trust sources with a dubious reputation (DonPress) and still quote from there:
        according to operational information from the SBU, one of the Russian attack aircraft used two unguided missiles against Ukrainian boats, as a result of which one of the SBU officers was seriously wounded

        From NURS the hole would be like a "gate"
    4. Antares
      Antares 27 November 2018 21: 10
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      Some kind of strange armor - is it cracking? And what was they shooting at?

      Reservation
      both towers: 7-33 mm steel armor,
      superstructure and partially side: 5-10 mm steel-aluminum composite materials
      And all this for 30 mm is not a problem ...
    5. Boribor
      Boribor 28 November 2018 15: 26
      0
      Why shoot? The explanation is simple. The cabin was closed from the inside. One punch solved the problem. soldier
  10. vitvit123
    vitvit123 27 November 2018 16: 57
    +4
    And who knows what, after all, happened to the Emerald? Where did he get the damage, I can’t find the information anywhere.
    1. BAI
      BAI 27 November 2018 17: 17
      +1
      Yes, in the bottom line - where are the pictures of 3 articles, just the video flashed. Apparently, he was the first to try to press the tugboat, it did not work, then "Don" intervened.
    2. HUNTERDON
      HUNTERDON 27 November 2018 17: 24
      +1
      http://k-politika.ru/novejshij-storozhevik-izumrud-tozhe-poluchit-povrezhdeniya-v-kerchenskom-prolive/?utm_source=warfiles.ru
    3. LeonidL
      LeonidL 27 November 2018 19: 55
      0
      They say - photoshop. Quite possible. A little "peremogi" is also needed for the inhabitants of Absurdistan.
    4. Antares
      Antares 27 November 2018 21: 15
      0
      Quote: vitvit123
      And who knows what, after all, happened to the Emerald? Where did he get the damage, I can’t find the information anywhere.

      border patrol ship "Don" made a bulk on the tug and immediately rammed the Emerald.
      Well, they both walked together clamping the unfortunate tugboat because attempts to make a pile on the MBAK were pointless because of the maneuverability of the latter.
      Campaign Emerald decided on a fire attack to defeat and it was all over .. all the maneuvers.
  11. Scud
    Scud 27 November 2018 17: 14
    -5
    I'm a little about the other, about the bottom line.
    Three Russian warships were damaged and robust on the network, radio communications were laid out with maths by rematches with the mention of the surname Medvedev; growing border guards blocked the passage under the bridge with a barge, thereby creating hassle and a queue when passing ships.
    And this rascal created only two dill half-sea troughs and a forty-year-old tug.!
    Or am I wrong?
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 27 November 2018 17: 37
      +3
      Quote: scud
      I'm a little about the other, about the bottom line.
      Three Russian warships were damaged and robust on the network, radio communications were laid out with maths by rematches with the mention of the surname Medvedev; growing border guards blocked the passage under the bridge with a barge, thereby creating hassle and a queue when passing ships.
      And this rascal created only two dill half-sea troughs and a forty-year-old tug.!
      Or am I wrong?

      Right Billing the Banderbab Wonderland is a must. I hope that they are already working on this. yes
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 November 2018 18: 30
      +7
      Quote: scud
      Damaged and robust three Russian warships

      Three already? What specific ships are damaged (except "Emerald") and who writes about it?
      Name, sister, name! ©

      And then the reports of severe damage to the sea icebreaking tug when piled by the bow with a raid tug five times smaller in displacement do not cause much confidence. smile

      At this pace, soon the number of damaged ships will exceed the number of participants.
    3. Dmitriy66
      Dmitriy66 27 November 2018 18: 32
      0
      But right!
    4. Antares
      Antares 27 November 2018 21: 17
      -1
      Quote: scud
      Three Russian warships were damaged and robust on the network, radio communications were laid out with maths by rematches with the mention of the surname Medvedev; growing border guards blocked the passage under the bridge with a barge, thereby creating hassle and a queue when passing ships.

      Happenes. If they hadn’t opened fire, the score would have been 1-3 (the tug was damaged)
      the course of events was probably controlled by the deputy head of the FSB border service Gennady Medvedev
  12. Dmitriy66
    Dmitriy66 27 November 2018 17: 47
    +1
    But how to shoot?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 November 2018 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: Dmitriy66
      But how to shoot?

      All the same, my friend! But spe'gwa - give me some tea! ©
  13. LeonidL
    LeonidL 27 November 2018 19: 53
    +1
    They violated the order of the authorities, didn’t open fire - they got on the lip. But they wouldn’t violate it - in the cemetery!
  14. Antares
    Antares 27 November 2018 20: 52
    -2
    One of the detained sailors informed his girlfriend of the instructions received, and she, in turn, transmitted information to the media. According to her, the servicemen were ordered not to stop and, in the event of firing at their ships, to open fire in return.

    this is not information but OBS ....
    He could even "inform" his grandmother about the plans for a tunnel to Stockholm and the attempt on Stalin's life ...
    The facts that the gun was put in full dress mode. Ukrainians did not open fire. Although both of them have penetrated the corps (their ram + 30 mm Emerald according to MBAC)
    All this "illegality" of crossing always makes me smile. If you want to go to the Mediterranean, you are a violator of the Turkish borders. If you want to go to Red, you are an enemy of the people among the Egyptians. laughing
    In the Kerch Strait, everyone is so detained as border violators? Or just these because you needed a revealing flogging?
    I am of the opinion that the mutual show dance partners. Under the existing agreement, both parties decided their unnecessary, but very high-profile demonstration actions. For the sake of ifosum and further action.
    1. jonht
      jonht 28 November 2018 00: 45
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      Quote: Antares
      One of the detained sailors informed his girlfriend of the instructions received, and she, in turn, transmitted information to the media. According to her, the servicemen were ordered not to stop and, in the event of firing at their ships, to open fire in return.

      this is not information but OBS ....
      He could even "inform" his grandmother about the plans for a tunnel to Stockholm and the attempt on Stalin's life ...
      The facts that the gun was put in full dress mode. Ukrainians did not open fire. Although both of them have penetrated the corps (their ram + 30 mm Emerald according to MBAC)
      All this "illegality" of crossing always makes me smile. If you want to go to the Mediterranean, you are a violator of the Turkish borders. If you want to go to Red, you are an enemy of the people among the Egyptians. laughing
      In the Kerch Strait, everyone is so detained as border violators? Or just these because you needed a revealing flogging?
      I am of the opinion that the mutual show dance partners. Under the existing agreement, both parties decided their unnecessary, but very high-profile demonstration actions. For the sake of ifosum and further action.

      Whenever you want to go somewhere, you take permission to enter, subject to the presence of a pilot on board at that time, which means you are also waiting for the pilot and only after obtaining permission and the pilot you go on board ....
      In the Kerch case, they didn’t take permission, they turned to the TV from international waters, they didn’t react to the demands of stopping and leaving the TV, there was a dangerous maneuver, as the former border guard I could say about the use of weapons were all conditions. And they worked for defeat after a warning at the rate of succession.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 28 November 2018 15: 09
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      Quote: Antares
      In the Kerch Strait, everyone is so detained as border violators? Or just these because you needed a revealing flogging?

      In the Kerch Strait, everyone is detained who did not consider it necessary to obtain a permit for passage in accordance with the requirements of the law.
      ICHH, last time the Naval Forces of Ukraine did everything as required - and their ships "Donbass" and "Korets" quietly passed into the Sea of ​​Azov. At first, they inflated a breakthrough - about the breakthrough of the valiant Ukrainian sailors, but then everything was somehow blown away - when it turned out that the ships were sailing in compliance with all the rules.
      Ukrainian ships, like other ships, appealed about entering the Kerch Strait. They were informed about the need to include in the composition of the caravan, preparing for passage and taking on board the pilot
  15. NF68
    NF68 27 November 2018 21: 23
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    Sleeping on the lip. And they will be fed properly. Just the same romance.
  16. arhPavel
    arhPavel 28 November 2018 01: 14
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    I think we just need to post footage of the naval exercises, where "ships similar" to these three are used as targets.
  17. pros000007
    pros000007 28 November 2018 11: 12
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    you need to give them about ten years of jail for violating the state border with weapons, so that it would be disgraceful for others!
  18. PValery53
    PValery53 28 November 2018 14: 20
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    "Detained servicemen of the Ukrainian Navy ended up in the guardhouse"
    - Now it remains to send Petka Potroshonkin there. Deserved it!