Media: Poliment-Redoubt air defense missile systems will be adopted in the first half of 2019

The anti-aircraft missile system of the ship-based (ZRK) "Polyment-Redut" will be put into service in the first half of next year, according to TASS with reference to an informed source in the Russian defense industry.

According to the agency’s source, by the end of this year, it is planned to complete the entire complex of tests of the Polyment-Redut air defense missile system on board the 20380 project corvette. At the same time, firing is planned both at air and at sea targets. After completing the entire test cycle, the complex will be put into service in the first half of 2019. Earlier, the air defense system passed a test cycle on the main frigate of the 22350 “Admiral Gorshkov” project, the tests were considered successful.

According to the plans of the Navy command, in the future, the Polyment-Redut air defense system will be put into service with all new and modernized ships of the corvette and frigate classes. In addition, the complex will be installed on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft-carrying cruiser and on the Admiral Nakhimov and Peter the Great heavy nuclear-missile cruisers after repair and modernization.

"Polyment-Redut" - a shipborne anti-aircraft missile system with a vertical launch.

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[Tektor]

Particularly encouraging is the recent report that there will be a long-range missile system in the composition of Polement-Redoubt: up to 400 km ... Probably there is an opportunity to adapt the launch to 40N6.

[vkl.47]

(off-topic) By the way, here comes the hole

[Alex777]

Duc these "armored boats" have armor from 7,2x54. AND EVERYTHING.
Any heavy machine gun through these products draw up.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: vkl.47

(off-topic) By the way, here comes the hole

And what is it about him? It’s not like 14,5mm.

[alexmach]

30mm high-explosive fragmentation?

[Wiruz]

There is probably an opportunity to adapt the launcher to 40N6

Are you sure that this fool will fit there? So long ago, the dreamers that Project 22350 can carry 32 48N6, or 128 9M96, or half-hours with something 9M100, have already ended. Everything rested on the fact that 48N6 would not fit in stupidly, but 40N6 would be later.
It seems to me that we are talking about a new missile based on 9M96M, or something like SM-6, we finished

[antivirus]

by 22 g will go out into the ocean with "400" or later?
but better late than never ... said the Jew looking after the departing train and laid his head on the rails
still to come ...
how av \ nose prince will be ready in 22 g?
what will happen to the "partners" in the Wed sea and Vost whale sea ???
and shaving can take off from their airfields near London?

[Mountain shooter]

As far as we know, this is a marine analog of the S-400. There were some problems with the location station. Have you won? If so, then such a club in the middle of the sea - wow ... Yes, and on ships relatively small.

[kjhg]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

As far as I know, this is a marine analogue of S-400

This is a completely different system. The ground analogue of Poliment-Redut is the S-350 Vityaz.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: kjhg

This is a completely different system. The ground analogue of Poliment-Redut is the S-350 Vityaz.

No, the comrade wrote everything correctly, namely C400. As part of this air defense system was supposed to be 9M96 missiles, but due to the fact that it didn’t work, they took her into the S350, which was not accepted for service because the missile does not want to go anywhere.

[NEXUS]

Quote: kjhg

The ground analogue of Polement-Redoubt is C-350 Vityaz.

Which is not in terrestrial execution from the word at all. Although it is necessary to the Vityaz land explorers yesterday. But they gave it to the sailors, and apparently they left a BEECH.

[kjhg]

Quote: NEXUS

Which is not in ground execution from the word at all

There is a S-350 launcher, there is a radar, they were shown to the president 3-4 years ago. As soon as they pass Polyment-Redoubt, news on Vityaz will immediately sprinkle. Buk-M3 - it is still more military air defense, and not object.

[NEXUS]

Quote: kjhg

There is a C-350 launcher, there is a radar, they were shown to the president another 3-4 years ago.

Yeah ... they can show the president anything. Four years ago, if sclerosis does not change me, it was promised that in the 15 year Vityaz will go into series. So what?

Quote: kjhg

As soon as they pass Polyment-Redoubt, news on Vityaz will immediately sprinkle.

Yes, yes, yes ... but what prevented them from developing Vityaz and putting him into series in parallel with Polyment? Religion does not allow two complexes to be done simultaneously?

[kjhg]

Several years ago there was news that the director of Almaz, the lead developer of the S-400 and S-350, was removed from Polyment-Redoubt for putting all his efforts into bringing the development of the S-400 to the detriment of other projects. I do not know how much this is true, but he was "left" from his post.

Quote: NEXUS

Religion does not allow two complexes to be done simultaneously?

[bayard]

Donetsk.
Lack of qualified personnel does not allow. Ashurbeyli removed from all directions, even from the marine theme, all design personnel and threw them on the topic of land - S-400. Now the cadres have freed up a bit and the progress has begun along Poliment Redoubt. He had flaws with the software ... and with fashionable-kinetic missiles ...

[Alex777]

As far as we know, this is a marine analog of the S-400.

There is no marine C-400 in nature yet.
IMHO therefore delays in the repair of the cruiser Moscow (this complex is planned there).
And with Nakhimov, too, difficulties. USC complained that a major alteration would require innovation from the Ministry of Defense. C-400 KMK is an innovation.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Alex777

And with Nakhimov, too, difficulties. USC complained that a major alteration would require innovation from the Ministry of Defense. C-400 KMK is an innovation.

Not only a problem in the C-400 messed up. There is an opinion that they are going to stick in Nakhimov’s numbed analogue of C-500, although I personally have big doubts about this, as there isn’t even a land analogue for now.

[Alexey RA]

According to a source of the agency, by the end of this year it is planned to complete the entire complex of tests of the Poliment-Redut air defense system on board the corvette of project 20380.

Is there a "Polyment-Redut" on avenue 20380? There is also a clean "Redoubt".

[Chicha squad]

And how do they differ. I thought a redoubt is a coastal missile system.

[san4es]

Quote: Chicha Squad

And how do they differ ...

3K96-2 "Polyment-Redut" is a shipborne air defense missile system, it has four types of anti-aircraft missiles - short-range (9M100E), medium (9M96E) and long (9M96E2 and 9M96E2-1), unified with the ground-based air defense system S-350 "Vityaz" ... The new generation missiles are distinguished by very high maneuverability. The frigates of the Admiral Gorshkov class are equipped with a full set of Polyment-Redut missiles (UVP 3S.97, radars and control systems), they are also in service with the corvettes of the project 20380 (with the exception of the lead ship "Guarding"). The frigates of project 22350 are armed with four UVP 3S.97 with a total of 32 missile cells.
Almaz-Antey demonstrated these missiles at the MAKS-2017 air show. Long-range variant 9M96E2-1 is designed to destroy modern manned and unmanned aerial vehicles, weight 598 kg, warhead weight 24 kg, TPK length 5,608 m, width 0,42 m, firing range from 2,5 to 120 km, damage height from 0,005 to 30 km, maximum target speed 4800 m / s.
Option 9M96E2 is also designed to defeat airborne and surface targets, weight 449 kg, warhead 24 kg, missile length 5,35 meters, width 0,273 m, feathering range 0,676 m, firing range from 2,5 to 120 km, damage height from 0,005 up to 30 km, maximum target speed of 4800 m / s.
The 9M96E medium-range missile version has a mass of 370 kg, a warhead of 24 kg, a length of 4,522 m, a diameter of 0,273 m, a tail range of 0,676 meters, a firing range of 1,5 to 40 km, a strike height of 0,005 to 20 km, and a maximum target speed of 1000 m /with.
9M100E short-range missiles are designed to combat high-precision weapons, including anti-ship and anti-radar missiles and other unmanned and manned aircraft, can be placed on ships of small displacement. The mass of the rocket is 140 kg, the warhead is 14 kg, the length is 3,165 m, the diameter is 0,2 m, the feathering range is 0,536 m. The firing range is from 0,5 to 15 km, the height of destruction from 0,005 to 8 km, the maximum target speed is 1000 m / s.
https://vpk.name/news/231922_polimentredut_problemyi_pozadi.html

[Alex777]

A valid educational program!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Chicha Squad

And how do they differ. I thought a redoubt is a coastal missile system.

At 20380, the completeness of the air defense system has been cut down - the Redut air defense system itself is, but the Polyment air defense system does not. Instead of them, "Furke-2" is used.

[Wiruz]

Is there a "Polyment-Redut" on avenue 20380?

There is a redoubt, no polement. On the new corvettes they promise to put the Barrier. And the worse it is, the better I can’t say Polement, I’m not rummaging

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Wiruz

And the worse it is, the better I can’t say Polement, I’m not rummaging

Basically - with power, the radar at the Barrier is rather weak.
That is, it can do a lot, sees in both centimeter and decimeter, and in the passive mode, and can interfere, but the power allows you to see the target with ESR 1 sq m at 75 km and point. For a corvette it’s normal, for something more - it’s not enough

[Alex777]

allows you to see the target with an EPR of 1 sq m for 75 km and a point.

Underestimate the Barrier. Factor of.
On the K-52, the radar sees targets at 200 km. And then a whole corvette.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Alex777

At K-52, the radar sees targets at 200 km

Do you know what EPR is? :)))) Then answer the question - the purpose with which EPR sees the K-52 radar at 200 km? :))))

[Alex777]

I would even say that there is a "naked" Redoubt.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Alexey RA

Is there a "Polyment-Redut" on avenue 20380? There is also a clean "Redoubt".

Duc news that clearly smacks of yellowness! I thought the same - where did they see on the corvettes "Polyment-Redut"?

Quote: Mountain Shooter

As far as I know, this is a marine analogue of S-400

Well, only you know! Well, never an analogue of the s-400

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sandor Clegane

Duc news that clearly smacks of yellowness! I thought the same - where did they see on the corvettes "Polyment-Redut"?

He-he-he ... I've met "experts" who wrote that since Project 20380 fired off normally with the Redoubt several times, it means that Polyment-Redut has no problems. And they were very surprised when they were told that the Corvette "Redoubt" and the frigate "Poliment-Redoubt" are not the same thing.

[egor egor]

From ce garno ce we need

[Genry]

Do not distort ...

[antivirus]

will fly?
wait ..
or should I go back there?

[Galleon]

Media: SAM "Polymer-Redut" will be adopted in the first half of 2019

Moderators, correct the heading: POLEMENT - Redoubt.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Galleon

Moderators, correct the heading: POLEMENT - Redoubt.

That's right, namely POLYMER, the one that ... Well, everyone remembers ...

[antivirus]

the one that ... Well, everyone remembers ...
"buoyancy" is increased?

[Alexey-74]

This will very seriously increase the air defense / missile defense of our Navy. Good luck in completing the tests and successful adoption. Waited a long time!

[rocket757]

Let's wait. This article is not the first on the topic, boom to wait when the job is done!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Everything is great, only for some reason retyping the news, the words were removed from it

TASS does not have official confirmation of the information provided by the source.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Everything is great, only for some reason retyping the news, the words were removed from it

Because it sounds more convincing. I believe the military will be forced to sign an acceptance certificate, having promised to finalize the rocket afterwards, but they will throw it. The military understands this and in every possible way delay the inevitable, but they will not be allowed to do this indefinitely.

[gunnerminer]

Fleet command will be removed Poliment with Redoubt. Not the first time.

[Hole puncher]

Media: Poliment-Redoubt air defense missile systems will be adopted in the first half of 2019

Oh, it’s just 20 years since the development of the mega-super .... flightless 9M96, anniversary!

[gunnerminer]

It's time to accept.

[Old26]

Quote: Tektor

Particularly encouraging is the recent report that there will be a long-range missile system in the composition of Polement-Redoubt: up to 400 km ... Probably there is an opportunity to adapt the launch to 40N6.

Can. Sledgehammer. Tell me, how are you going to drive a TPK with a 0,273N40 missile with a diameter of 6 m into a cell designed for a TPK with a missile with a diameter of 0,575 m? That is, twice the diameter. Exclusively a sledgehammer. At the same time, it will still be necessary to cut the rocket along the length of the meter by 3-3,5. Tat only with a hacksaw, in extreme cases, a grinder

Quote: Wiruz

Are you sure that this fool will fit there? So long ago, the dreamers that Project 22350 can carry 32 48N6, or 128 9M96, or half-hours with something 9M100, have already ended. Everything rested on the fact that 48N6 would not fit in stupidly, but 40N6 would be later.
It seems to me that we are talking about a new missile based on 9M96M, or something like SM-6, we finished

That's for sure. Will not fit. "Gorshkov" has an announced ammunition load - 32 missiles of the 9M96 family or 128 of the 9M100 type (although they want to place 273 containers with a rocket with a diameter of 4 mm in the same cell where the container with a 200 mm missile is located - I don't know

Quote: Mountain Shooter

As far as we know, this is a marine analog of the S-400.

This is not a marine analogue of the S-400. It still does not seem to exist in nature. Unless only in the drawings. The S-400 is capable of using missiles of the 48M6 family in addition to the 9N96 family of missiles, engaging 4 TPKs instead of one standard one. "Polyment-Redut" is rather an overwhelmed "Vityaz" with 9M96 missiles.

Quote: Puncher

No, the comrade wrote everything correctly, namely C400. As part of this air defense system was supposed to be 9M96 missiles, but due to the fact that it didn’t work, they took her into the S350, which was not accepted for service because the missile does not want to go anywhere.

If it were a naval version of the S-400, it would have to use the entire range of missiles, these systems. And he uses only one - 9M96. So, in fact, it is still the overwhelmed Vityaz, the same missile will be used on both systems