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In the Russian Federation, the question of creating a tank with a railgun is being considered

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Russian scientists are working on the issue of creating an unmanned tracked vehicle equipped with a fundamentally new weapons, transmits Interfax message source in the defense complex.


In the Russian Federation, the question of creating a tank with a railgun is being considered


According to the source, the concept of the idea is as follows: a tracked platform capable of carrying promising types of weapons, with the ability to control in an unmanned mode.

He noted that the most important task of the first stage is to create a powerful power supply system for the combat vehicle, which will allow it to carry the "energy-intensive payload."

In the future, such a tank will be able to get not only an “electrothermochemical artillery system,” but also an electromagnetic gun (railgun) and a combat laser, the agency’s source added.

He recalled that the development of railguns is also actively conducted in several other countries, including the United States and China.

Earlier on the development of unmanned tanks reported in the corporation "Uralvagonzavod". According to the CEO of the company, Alexander Potapov, work is underway on an unmanned version of "Almaty."

At the beginning of last year, the Deputy Minister of Defense (now Deputy Prime Minister) Yuri Borisov stated that the military department is expecting a breakthrough in the field of electromagnetic and laser weapons in the near future as a result of interaction between the Academy of Sciences (RAS) and the Ministry of Defense.

In August of this year, the media, citing the head of the Armored Directorate Directorate of the RF Ministry of Defense Sergey Mayev, said that the latest Russian combat vehicles, including those on the Armata platform, can get a microwave gun, railgun or laser weapon.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 25 November 2018 16: 56
    +48
    In the future, such a tank will be able to get not only an “electrothermochemical artillery system,” but also an electromagnetic gun (railgun) and a combat laser, the agency’s source added.

    And a car with a nuclear reactor will waddle in the back. Yeah ... are we starting to get the same sores as the mattresses? Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 25 November 2018 17: 02
      +7
      Quote: NEXUS
      Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

      I agree with that yes good
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 25 November 2018 17: 14
        +12
        In August of this year, the media, citing the head of the Armored Directorate Directorate of the RF Ministry of Defense Sergey Mayev, said that the latest Russian combat vehicles, including those on the Armata platform, can get a microwave gun, railgun or laser weapon.

        It’s clear: on the approach the laser microwave railgun ... belay wassat
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 November 2018 17: 51
          +8
          The main thing is to announce louder .. lol
        2. kasatky
          kasatky 25 November 2018 20: 27
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Understandably: a laser microwave railotron is approaching ..

          Almost guessed!
          The news is misinformation. A legend that "explains" the motives behind the creation of a heavy tracked vehicle with a weapon that requires a powerful source of energy (information about which probably came to a potential enemy). It is roughly like Skif / Pole / Mir2, only on a smaller scale.
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 26 November 2018 07: 33
            +1
            oil painting. plot - a woman and a pig
        3. astepanov
          astepanov 26 November 2018 09: 07
          +1
          It seems that Rogozin also made his way there. Olegitch, in front of! Give a thermonuclear slingshot! The adversaries will laze with laughter!
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 25 November 2018 17: 27
        +3
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Quote: NEXUS
        Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

        I agree with that yes good

        So do I. Power plant ettto horrrosho. And the barrel cooling system? Well, what kind of monster will the tank turn out to be? And what kind of rate do bright minds suggest?
        Maybe do something more realistic? belay
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 25 November 2018 17: 41
          +2
          Scientists are like small children. Let them fantasize sometimes. Maybe someday something will work out.
          1. REEKMAN
            REEKMAN 25 November 2018 17: 53
            -7
            And will they "fantasize" for free, for food, or maybe for a "thank you" from all the people? Wouldn't it have been better to use these funds to solve more pressing problems than to create new wunderwafels in the long term?
            1. Waldemar
              Waldemar 25 November 2018 18: 48
              +1
              Military technology always falls into civilian products.
          2. Voyager
            Voyager 25 November 2018 18: 19
            +17
            Science fiction has always moved real scientific progress.
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 26 November 2018 07: 35
              +1
              Quote: Voyager
              Science fiction has always moved real scientific progress.

              rather, fiction was a function of progress.
              As a rule, science fiction writers had friends.
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 26 November 2018 09: 55
              0
              But not fantasy, as in this case.
          3. NordUral
            NordUral 26 November 2018 09: 54
            +1
            Do not offend scientists. This statement is not their handiwork.
          4. Galleon
            Galleon 27 November 2018 09: 37
            0
            Quote: Sergey39

            Scientists are like small children. Let them fantasize sometimes.

            Ah, Sergei, scientists are twisting their fingers to their temples at such statements by Interfax and "a source in the defense department."
        2. lev1759
          lev1759 25 November 2018 21: 22
          0
          Well, the fact that a train with a nuclear power plant will go behind the tank is understandable, but I apologize for my French ... why the hell is barrel cooling on a railgun?
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 27 November 2018 07: 38
            0
            Quote: lev1759
            Well, the fact that a train with a nuclear power plant will go behind the tank is understandable, but I apologize for my French ... why the hell is barrel cooling on a railgun?

            the rail overheats there probably or something.
      3. VO3A
        VO3A 25 November 2018 23: 39
        +4
        It's a lot of fun to read these fairy tales, or rather nonsense ... And where will this "miracle" receive target designation or scouts will crawl ahead or the operator will see with the help of a camera on the enemy's tank itself in the distance ... What nonsense !!! We need to make reconnaissance and target designation systems, link it with analysis tools and means of destruction, but we don't have the first one yet !!! The President again only introduced this task as one of the main tasks for the next period of the Armed Forces development. Only he forgot that he already set this task almost 19 years ago with a deadline in 2020 ... Soon he will have to report to the generals ... There is also evidence of their stupid and mediocre work in the form of mountains of scrap metal and electronics called ESU TZ "Constellation -M "and fabulous means thrown to the wind during its creation ...
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 25 November 2018 17: 14
      +4
      NEXUS (Andrei)
      And a car with a nuclear reactor will waddle in the back. Yeah ... are we starting to get the same sores as the mattresses? Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.
      And don’t say. Today, literally on YouTube, the video came as a Bulk Chubais gift. laughing He smashed it to the nines. Then you look at them no matter what. Tank only with a railgun is not enough for complete happiness laughing
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 25 November 2018 17: 15
      +9
      Quote: NEXUS
      And a car with a nuclear reactor will waddle in the back. Yeah ... are we starting to get the same sores as the mattresses?

      Why a nuclear reactor? It was our scientists who invented the device for generating an electrical impulse using an explosion.
      This is another matter, ours are slowly adopting the American method of cutting. It is becoming increasingly clear that under any military nonsense, our money will be quickly found.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 19
        +14
        In the Russian Federation, the question of creating a tank with a railgun is being considered
        typo ... it meant "scam" apparently ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 November 2018 17: 52
          +8
          Well, you can’t be so loud, money loves silence. lol
        2. Altona
          Altona 25 November 2018 19: 09
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          typo ... it meant "scam" apparently ...

          -----------------------------
          So many projects with visible flaws have already been advertised. This is a Mistral-type UDC with a bow gate, which will not be able to approach the coast to use these "gates". This is PAK YES according to the tailless scheme, which exists only in the picture. High-speed helicopter with wings. I'm not talking about the Rogozin missiles. There are many announcements, but at least there are no working models yet.
    4. Machito
      Machito 25 November 2018 17: 26
      0
      Sounds like misinformation.
      For a railgun you need a tank with a nuclear reactor. The laser does not work well in the atmosphere, it is better to use it in aviation. But the robotic armored platform is a cool thing.
      1. NG inform
        NG inform 25 November 2018 17: 50
        +2
        There is no need for a nuclear reactor, it needs a battery of conventional capacitors and non-combustible and non-volatile materials for the barrel, which do not exist.
        1. lev1759
          lev1759 25 November 2018 21: 27
          +2
          And what will capacitors charge with a wind generator?
      2. Waldemar
        Waldemar 25 November 2018 18: 49
        0
        It depends on which laser. Depends on the nature and physical properties of the beam
        1. Machito
          Machito 25 November 2018 19: 43
          -4
          Yes, at least some laser scatters in the atmosphere. The laser needs a vacuum.
    5. Lena363
      Lena363 25 November 2018 17: 39
      +2
      The railgun needs electricity, and with powerful batteries. A steam turbine must also be attached to the reactor to convert thermal energy into electrical energy.
    6. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 25 November 2018 17: 42
      0
      Will there be blockchain in the tank? Without it, the railslotron cannot work in any way. request
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 59
        +2
        I figure out how the "zhovto-blakitnye" laugh ...
        1. Machito
          Machito 25 November 2018 18: 17
          +1
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          I figure out how the "zhovto-blakitnye" laugh ...

          They are not up to tanks now.
          They jump, I can help celebrate that their troughs were not allowed to the bottom.
      2. Altona
        Altona 25 November 2018 19: 10
        +4
        Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
        Will there be blockchain in the tank? Without it, the railslotron cannot work in any way.

        ------------------------
        Do you offer to mine cryptocurrency in idle mode? laughing
    7. Terenin
      Terenin 25 November 2018 18: 15
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      In the future, such a tank will be able to get not only an “electrothermochemical artillery system,” but also an electromagnetic gun (railgun) and a combat laser, the agency’s source added.

      And a car with a nuclear reactor will waddle in the back. Yeah ... are we starting to get the same sores as the mattresses? Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

      Well, that's it, Andrey, you "got" all your colleagues from VO laughing, this is a clear message to the beloved West, within the framework of the information war. By the way, as they do. How did this "letter" get to us? request These are the Anglo-Saxons who believe in the omnipotence of Bruce Willis, even if they prove blue in the face, that Russia is not able to make such a system (or is it able to? recourse ) Let them suffer, we still can’t ... bully
      1. mac789
        mac789 25 November 2018 18: 29
        +2
        And if we assume? ... Not a railgun, but a big Gaussian on a two-link platform ... As an SPG. That is, a conventional powder shot is additionally accelerated by electromagnetic coils.
        1. Waldemar
          Waldemar 25 November 2018 18: 53
          +2
          Gauss was made at the time of the Second World War as an experiment. Shot weakly. But they didn’t have much in technology
          1. mac789
            mac789 26 November 2018 07: 25
            0
            That is why I write "additionally overclocked". When working in combination, a good effect is possible.
    8. dvina71
      dvina71 25 November 2018 18: 17
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

      Since when has Interfax been engaged in the production of armored vehicles?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 November 2018 18: 18
        +3
        Quote: dvina71
        Since when has Interfax been engaged in the production of armored vehicles?

        Ever since the tweeter became a political platform and the voice of decisions of the heads of state.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 25 November 2018 18: 24
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Ever since the tweeter became a political platform and the voice of decisions of the heads of state.

          Do not be offended .. but react in such a way to the stuffing of the media .. paranoia ..? Not?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 25 November 2018 18: 30
            +4
            Quote: dvina71
            Do not be offended .. but react in such a way to the stuffing of the media .. paranoia ..? Not?

            Do you really think that this news or stuffing is the reason for what I'm talking about? What year is all this tyagomotin going on?
            Or for example, today's news about Ukrainian boats? Where is the pride of the people, where is a clear ideology, where is a meaningful program for the rearmament of the army and navy? Where is the unity of the people with the ruling circles? And finally, where is the recognition of the fact that a WAR is being waged with us and we are not partners in any way with either the USA or the greater half of Europe?
            I react like that because I STILL, because I HAVE BEEN PISSIBLE FOR THE POWER.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 25 November 2018 19: 21
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              Or for example, today's news about Ukrainian boats?

              The news must be read to the end .. or as much as possible to find out the details from other sources .., but it's easier for you to shout - MUCH !!!

              As you can see .. the passage under the boat was blocked, civilian vessels are at a distance .. Ships from Sevastopol are pulling up to the bridge .. Ka-52 .. fly nearby .. and they have these ukrolohanks at the click of a button. Ie .. Ukrainians now definitely will not be allowed into Azov .. and there will be no change. Arrange a war with a knowingly weak enemy, in full view of a bunch of foreign ships .. yes and in general .. We must flog in public .. what are they doing now.
              Quote: NEXUS
              where is a coherent ideology, where is a meaningful program for the rearmament of the army and navy?

              Putin has already voiced the ideology-patriotism .. everything .. there will be no others.
              What is meaningful? I wonder .. your meaningful on what experience, education based?
              Quote: NEXUS
              And finally, where is the recognition of the fact that a WAR is being waged with us and we are not partners in any way with either the USA or the greater half of Europe?

              Emotions..emotions..in war is the last thing ..
              Quote: NEXUS
              I react like that because I STILL, because I HAVE BEEN PISSIBLE FOR THE POWER.

              You are offended by your seething imagination .. but it is treatable .. Just go back to earth.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 25 November 2018 19: 31
                +3
                Quote: dvina71
                Arrange war with a knowingly weak adversary

                Why are you smoking there, dear smart guy? You need to be able to read, and not like you, to play a stupid game, "he du.a.k".
                Quote: dvina71
                Putin has already voiced the ideology - patriotism.

                Seriously, since when has patriotism become an ideology? Or did your patriotism appear on command from above? Well then, it all changes.
                Quote: dvina71
                what is your meaningful experience and education based on?

                My is based on the fact that the country has no idea where the helmsmen are leading it, from the word at all. In the USSR there was an ideology, although many did not like it, but it was. Building an enlightened socialist society, equality and so on ... and tell us what ideology we have?
                Quote: dvina71
                Emotions..emotions..in war is the last thing ..

                This is not respected emotion, but a statement of the fact that takes place. You, a patriot, as you scratched here and you apparently are not at all bothered by the fact that we are being sculpted with world Evil, with all the consequences, and they are also at war with us.
                Quote: dvina71
                You are offended by your seething imagination ..,

                Yes, I would be happy to agree with you, but only events, facts and what is happening speaks the opposite. It’s you who flew from Mars and through your lip broadcasts that everyone is a visionary, you are Dartanyan alone.
                1. Machito
                  Machito 25 November 2018 19: 47
                  0
                  I agree with the Nexus.
    9. Genry
      Genry 25 November 2018 18: 29
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

      Throats? This is you to yourself and the journalists coming up with all sorts of reasons to tryndindet ...
    10. Waldemar
      Waldemar 25 November 2018 18: 45
      +1
      Who knows, maybe they have in mind a reactor the size of a washing machine ... and so we are only shown different "pop music". And they themselves go and develop something that does not fit in the head of the layman.
    11. Nick_R
      Nick_R 25 November 2018 18: 49
      0
      And a car with a nuclear reactor will waddle behind

      Maximum machine with capacitors).
      The tank’s power plant generates enough energy to fire a hundred shots per hour.
      1. Nick_R
        Nick_R 25 November 2018 19: 21
        +2
        Muzzle energy of the projectile of a modern 125mm gun 2A82-1M 24 MJ which is 6,7 kW * h. Accordingly, 100 shells is 670 kWh.
        The power of the tank engine is 1000 hp or 745 kW. Accordingly, the power plant of the tank engine is able to generate energy to launch hundreds of shells in 5 hours at an efficiency of 20%. Naturally, with the appropriate system of generators, batteries and capacitors
    12. Arkady Gaidar
      Arkady Gaidar 25 November 2018 18: 52
      +4
      At the expense of Almaty and gorlopanov you are right. But not at the expense of the railgun. The fact is that the tank model of this weapon went to Russia from the USSR. There, it was developed and tested. At demonstration firing, with a simple blank weighing 2 kg, this unit pierced a concrete wall with a thickness of 2 meters, from a distance of 1 km. This was in the first half of the 90's, i.e. long. And an officer from our unit was present at these shootings. In the development of railguns, the USSR was ahead of the United States and the rest of the world, not 20-30 years. Now these projects are just being taken off the shelf. Then there was only one big problem, this was the need for a power plant to ensure its operation. At the beginning of the two thousandths, that is, one and a half dozen years ago, scientists proposed a solution to the last problem. Namely, to use explosive magnetic generators for pumping electricity. And apparently now they will combine all this into one.
      There remains only one important question: How reliable will all this equipment be ?! And how fast can they be repaired in the field ?! And then, in fact, the main capacities for the production of wires and various electrical equipment, the Russian oligarchs have long ago brought to Europe. Here, leaving only the raw material base ((
      1. Altona
        Altona 25 November 2018 19: 16
        0
        Quote: Arkady Gaidar
        Then there was only one big problem, this was the need for a power plant to ensure its operation.

        ----------------------------------
        So this is the point. Maybe the gun itself will be more or less compact, but how to shove an energy power plant into a tank? Or will you need an auxiliary machine, the dimensions of a rocket tractor, if not more? And maybe not just one, to somehow ensure the continuity of firing. In this case, the rails themselves with their wear still remain outside the brackets.
        1. Arkady Gaidar
          Arkady Gaidar 25 November 2018 19: 32
          +1
          Yes, it’s possible a tank with a power plant will be made to the tank. In general, Russian tanks are almost half the size of their Western counterparts. They have room to grow. Moreover, with such a gun the firing range will increase by about half. I will assume that all these statements are ponty. For now, just there is a conceptual study of the layout. And only then there will be factory tests, tests. And already at the very end, the matter will reach the military. So is the modern tank barrel. Designed for 700-800 shots. With heavy wear up to 1.5 thousands. And then change. According to the railgun and the wear of its parts, I can not explain. But, as I wrote above, even if they come up with rails capable of withstanding several hundred shots, all the main electrical stuffing is purchased abroad. The oligarchs have already hidden their business there, but it is generally registered, somewhere in the offshore zone, on the islands. There they will simply take and impose new sanctions on the supply of components used in the military sphere here. Small-scale production will still be mastered here, but for arming tank regiments with tanks with railguns, you will need to rebuild the factories here! And who will let the oligarchs, or officials with children in the West, or dual citizenship do this here ?! The tail of our bosses will be nipped quickly. So without the tank itself there are many questions)
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    14. svp67
      svp67 25 November 2018 20: 17
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

      Well, we must also look at the future. And the railgun, now the tank will not pull, and it is not needed, but you have to start from somewhere, and then I think that we need to start with the creation of mobile air defense systems. That would, if necessary, here and now "descend from heaven to earth" everything flying, up to satellites
    15. Astronaut
      Astronaut 25 November 2018 21: 14
      +1
      Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns

      Well, dear, here you are wrong, the development of new products should never stop, this is the defense industry and must live, and not conversion and diversification!
    16. aiden
      aiden 25 November 2018 21: 18
      0
      On the wire from the nuclear reactor will be powered :)
    17. goose
      goose 26 November 2018 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      And a car with a nuclear reactor will hobble behind.

      People who write similar reports in areas are extremely far from the subject of discussion and are not ready to answer for their words. Any technical specialist, or even a physicist, will immediately understand that 80% of the above is unscientific fiction, and the rest depends on stable and plentiful funding, which will not be.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 25 November 2018 17: 02
    +6
    At the beginning of last year, the Deputy Minister of Defense (now Deputy Prime Minister) Yuri Borisov stated that the military department is expecting a breakthrough in the field of electromagnetic and laser weapons in the near future as a result of interaction between the Academy of Sciences (RAS) and the Ministry of Defense.

    Wherever you look, the expectation of breakthroughs is around ... when will we break through and for this all the money will appear?
    1. Black sniper
      Black sniper 25 November 2018 17: 11
      -3
      It looks like they want additional financial investments for the alleged "innovation". hi
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 20
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      At the beginning of last year, the Deputy Minister of Defense (now Deputy Prime Minister) Yuri Borisov stated that the military department is expecting a breakthrough in the field of electromagnetic and laser weapons in the near future as a result of interaction between the Academy of Sciences (RAS) and the Ministry of Defense.

      Wherever you look, the expectation of breakthroughs is around ... when will we break through and for this all the money will appear?

      hold on. Namesake ... will "break through" someday. hi
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 November 2018 17: 23
        +10
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        will break through someday.

        Usually it breaks down the sewer ... our fleet is decreasing every year, the SU-57 will not be sawed in any way, the T-14 is shown and silence ... Where is the T-15, Kurganets, Boomerang? We are upgrading NNXIMOV 6 for a year ... I don’t even want to know how many summer houses were built by our chief officers for this modernization. They built the East and 5 lard are still looking with lanterns.
        Of course it will burst ... I’m only afraid that we will drown in this breakthrough of the cornucopia.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 39
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          will break through someday.

          Usually it breaks down the sewer ... our fleet is decreasing every year, the SU-57 will not be sawed in any way, the T-14 is shown and silence ... Where is the T-15, Kurganets, Boomerang? We are upgrading NNXIMOV 6 for a year ... I don’t even want to know how many summer houses were built by our chief officers for this modernization. They built the East and 5 lard are still looking with lanterns.
          Of course it will burst ... I’m only afraid that we will drown in this breakthrough of the cornucopia.

          ek you ... well, yes, everything is so ... to do what? deadlock situation. a neighbor's example, I don’t want, as with "Aurora", it will not work ... what a pancake ...?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 25 November 2018 17: 54
            +4
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            what to do damn ...?

            Work, not claim. Do, not fantasize. Our bureaucrats love to reason and declare breakthroughs, but in fact where are we now?
            Words do not mean anything, but deeds and deeds do not deceive. And in this regard, what can we say about affairs in the topic of fleet renewal? For me, pure sabotage.
            And let's talk about such a topic as the adoption of a single machine gun? Lazy and stupid even understands that Kalashnikov pushed this decision and now we already have an 4 machine. Apparently we have not so little money as they say.
            Let's get back to Armata ... in the USSR, a new tank platform from time to time was created over the course of 4 of the year. The T-14 is essentially not new at all, since before it was the T-95, the Black Eagle and many other prototypes. And this is not 4 of the year, but 6, or even all of 7. We’re all dressed up. Which gun to put on it ... isn’t it funny?
            When was the terminator created? And when was it adopted?
            The story of SU-34, again ... what is it? Poor folly, dullness or intent?
            The reduction in the military budget is ambiguous. The army is not rearmed, but only in the process.
            So what to do? Or maybe for a start all sorts of managers and rags from the government to remove and put really understanding people in these positions? At the same time, develop a state ideology, which we do not have at all.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 18: 02
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              Work, not claim. Do, not fantasize. Our bureaucrats love to reason and declare breakthroughs, but in fact where are we now?

              Andryukha ... you know that income is from a pipe, some of which are in pockets ... that’s the whole economy. the rest is taxes, it is already unknown what, and further fantasies go ... this is the edge ....
            2. Altona
              Altona 25 November 2018 19: 18
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              Our bureaucrats love to reason and declare breakthroughs, but in fact where are we now?

              ---------------------
              Our bureaucrats are sometimes directors and journalists. And if things don’t go, then they slide into the vulgar PR of nonexistent so far in nature things.
    3. Machito
      Machito 25 November 2018 17: 29
      +1
      Money will appear when we find the gold of the party and the treasure of Stenka Razin.
      1. Altona
        Altona 25 November 2018 19: 20
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        Money will appear when we find the gold of the party and the treasure of Stenka Razin.

        -----------------------------
        You don't even need to look for wrappers of any "wealth funds".
    4. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 25 November 2018 17: 43
      +2
      Wherever you look, the expectation of breakthroughs is all around ...

      He had in mind option B: a bubble burst, which was inflated by the mind of the disfigured (C) advisers.
  3. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 25 November 2018 17: 07
    +1
    and who will create the old gunsmiths will die, and alas, there are few new youth who don’t go to institutes to technically learn how to cut easy money or crumple in the office
    1. Machito
      Machito 25 November 2018 19: 52
      0
      And Russia has always had enough nuggets, like Kalashnikov or Lefty.
  4. god-given
    god-given 25 November 2018 17: 08
    +2
    The unit will be flying, recycle in hyper sound, shoot shells with antimatter, possess a black hole generator as a kaz, and all this will be driven by a hyper nano-quantum engine.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 22
      +5
      Quote: God-given
      The unit will be flying, recycle in hyper sound, shoot shells with antimatter, possess a black hole generator as a kaz, and all this will be driven by a hyper nano-quantum engine.

      and for the disclosure of "state secrets", you can thunder into the casemates ... yes
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 44
        +1
        and yes: S C R I P A L I !!! - be afraid now ... laughing
    2. Altona
      Altona 25 November 2018 19: 21
      0
      Quote: God-given
      and all this will be driven by a hyper nano-quantum engine.

      ---------------------------
      Go ahead, will mine the crypt on XX and engage in self-financing. laughing
  5. dgonni
    dgonni 25 November 2018 17: 09
    -2
    Railgun on the tank? Oh well. Unmanned Armata? So no question only throw the crew capsule and tone 10t armor, because there is no need for other heaps minus the skating rink on board. As a result, we get a completely different platform.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 25 November 2018 17: 12
      0
      Quote: dgonni
      As a result, we get a completely different platform.

      As a result, we get a trampoline for flying to the moon ... yeah.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 22
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: dgonni
        As a result, we get a completely different platform.

        As a result, we get a trampoline for flying to the moon ... yeah.

        leave me alone from Rogozin, it’s not so easy for him ... wassat
  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 25 November 2018 17: 14
    0
    I’m still not tired of sculpting something for the sake of showing off, so that later, as with the armata platform, it’s not what the military needed to blind, and, slowly, they decided to close the project am
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 23
      0
      Quote: ANCIENT
      I’m still not tired of sculpting something for the sake of showing off, so that later, as with the armata platform, it’s not what the military needed to blind, and, slowly, they decided to close the project am

      the project was not closed, but "postponed", due to "excess capacity" ...
      1. ANCIENT
        ANCIENT 25 November 2018 17: 28
        -2
        Yurievich hi - where the project was transferred across the road belay negative he was just buried, but they could bring to mind the much-needed T-95 negative
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 41
          +1
          Quote: ANCIENT
          Yurievich hi - where the project was transferred across the road belay negative he was just buried, but they could bring to mind the much-needed T-95 negative

          it was "sarcasm" ...
    2. SOF
      SOF 25 November 2018 17: 29
      +2
      Quote: ANCIENT
      slowly decided to close the project

      .... informed the ANCIENT source in the Ministry of Defense .....
      ..... Ofigit informed users on VO are found .... already it becomes terribly .....
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 25 November 2018 17: 30
      +1
      All the big ones, as they appointed themselves, sculpt weapons not for children's games. They then and a great war to dazzle not for long!
      But shaw, it’s difficult to hang noodles on people’s ears ... people, after school, are not overloaded with knowledge about the laws of physics, mathematics and other sciences! And so it is!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 48
        +1
        Quote: rocket757
        And so it is!

        alas ... fear lost ... the computer generation once and updated ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 25 November 2018 18: 09
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          computer generation once and updated

          Exactly, exactly! As you look at many, at many, I would like to ask - Do you have nine lives, like a FRITZA cat ??? -
      2. cniza
        cniza 25 November 2018 17: 55
        +4
        It turns out the cinema steers and they have something to eat.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 18: 08
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          It turns out the cinema steers and they have something to eat.

          request something like this...
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 25 November 2018 18: 12
          +1
          Quote: cniza

          It turns out the cinema drives

          Thoughtful robyats, mass entertainers who muddy various Maidans and other flowers, know the rosary and order what they need! And shooters, catch-ups, and movies with endless lives of "heroes"!
          1. cniza
            cniza 25 November 2018 18: 34
            +3
            Only in reality is life alone and you will not reboot.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 25 November 2018 18: 48
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              Only in reality is life alone and you will not reboot.

              And they WILL NOT be explained to them!
              Well, they’re not all faithful sons, not everyone is in the guri, most likely no one is in a hurry .... but they’ll have to, which they don’t want to understand!
              1. cniza
                cniza 25 November 2018 18: 49
                +4
                And one can explain it only with a real example; they don’t understand otherwise.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 25 November 2018 18: 53
                  +1
                  In the trenches, on the front line, should quickly reach! Only masters are secretaries, they don’t eat their bread for nothing !!! The dill’s brains are so shaken, so there is no other thought than dill there! Experienced guys!
  7. Vinnibuh
    Vinnibuh 25 November 2018 17: 41
    +2
    It seems like Friday has passed, aaa the wrong hangover leads to a binge)))) Th little things, cross armature and drying, shaman and immediately masturbate the death star. Due to cuts, the edges were completely lost. Sadness (((
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 46
      +2
      Quote: Vinnibuh

      It seems like Friday has passed, aaa the wrong hangover, leads to binge))))

      you shouldn’t drink, sir ... but if something happened, pickle, sir ... wink
      1. Vinnibuh
        Vinnibuh 25 November 2018 17: 49
        +1
        So I read the article, I thought: Pale beer and a site about science fiction, I re-read it, but no, it’s not my business wassat
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 56
          +2
          Quote: Vinnibuh
          So I read the article, I thought: Pale beer and a site about science fiction, I re-read it, but no, it’s not my business wassat

          then it’s better to roll ... yes
          1. Vinnibuh
            Vinnibuh 25 November 2018 18: 00
            +2
            No, tomorrow is working. Unlike our boyars, they don’t pay me money for science fiction. laughing it's a pity crying
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 18: 14
              +3
              Quote: Vinnibuh
              No, tomorrow is working. Unlike our boyars, they don’t pay me money for science fiction. laughing it's a pity crying

              similarly sir .... recourse
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 26 November 2018 09: 51
              +1
              Yes, this is not fantasy, but fantasy. Fiction has the property of coming true, but fantasy does not.
  8. Baloo
    Baloo 25 November 2018 17: 43
    +2
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    In the Russian Federation, the question of creating a tank with a railgun is being considered
    typo ... it meant "scam" apparently ...

    No, that's right. Scam is a process, not a product. yes
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 17: 58
      0
      Quote: Balu
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      In the Russian Federation, the question of creating a tank with a railgun is being considered
      typo ... it meant "scam" apparently ...

      No, that's right. Scam is a process, not a product. yes

      I agree ... "process" is in progress ... with "products" ...
  9. Lawyer
    Lawyer 25 November 2018 18: 06
    +2
    Couch volley of local experts.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 18: 17
      0
      Quote: Jurist
      Couch volley of local experts.

      as confirmed by the sofa "pravAveT" ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2018 18: 40
        0
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Jurist
        Couch volley of local experts.

        as confirmed by the sofa "pravAveT" ...

        ah-ah-ah! "save" he gave me a minus! ah-ah ....- ..
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 November 2018 09: 47
      -1
      And you, Lawyerthat push your ass, broadcasting here sinners about us?
  10. kventinasd
    kventinasd 25 November 2018 18: 40
    -1
    There was still not enough microwave in Armata to cook chibupeli on rails lol
  11. fa2998
    fa2998 25 November 2018 19: 12
    +2
    Quote: APASUS
    It is becoming increasingly apparent that under any military nonsense, our money will quickly be found.

    Better bring at least T 14! In a series of start-up, there is no money, but to cut under which crap, they will find billion hi
  12. Stoler
    Stoler 25 November 2018 22: 13
    +2
    Well, of course, there is no money for Armata, but for THIS IS IT! wassat SAW BUBLA !!! GO RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 25 November 2018 23: 34
    +1
    A new BZHRK on "Yarsah" will be made - that will be all "railgun".
  14. earloop
    earloop 26 November 2018 01: 47
    0
    Not a tank, of course, but an unmanned tracked vehicle "Russian scientists are working on the issue of creating an unmanned tracked vehicle," Well done! They do not live "yesterday, but tomorrow". Future victory is achieved with weapons of past designs.
  15. Dead hand
    Dead hand 26 November 2018 02: 47
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    In the future, such a tank will be able to get not only an “electrothermochemical artillery system,” but also an electromagnetic gun (railgun) and a combat laser, the agency’s source added.

    And a car with a nuclear reactor will waddle in the back. Yeah ... are we starting to get the same sores as the mattresses? Bring the armature to the series, gorlopans, and then talk about tanks with railguns.

    Strange you are, still living rIactors .... the size of a house
    Funny ... so how? .... polymers profiled? .... connoisseur of the latest military power plants ... huh
  16. FC_ZP
    FC_ZP 26 November 2018 03: 44
    0
    "with the ability to control in unmanned mode"
    Mehvodami "put" statodrocherov with WoT?)
  17. Vanek
    Vanek 26 November 2018 03: 56
    0
    Here, all such smart people say:

    - Bring to mind!

    - T 14 in the series have not yet been released ..


    And so on.

    And I have a question for you.

    How many years passed before the A-20 turned into a T-34?

    Roughly speaking, you were announced about Armata YESTERDAY, and you TODAY want her (Armata) to be ready tomorrow.

    SO DO NOT HAPPEN!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 26 November 2018 09: 44
      0
      SO DO NOT HAPPEN!
      It was and happens, but not with these.
  18. ivant74rus
    ivant74rus 26 November 2018 08: 00
    +1
    You can still send the railgun into space from there to bullet more convenient wassat laughing
  19. NordUral
    NordUral 26 November 2018 09: 42
    +1
    And what do these guys smoke?
  20. AleBors
    AleBors 26 November 2018 09: 46
    0
    I suspect that this news is another cranberry from UVZ. So that our partners do not relax the rolls. lol
  21. filatik
    filatik 26 November 2018 13: 16
    -1
    Previously, you had to think. Some comparisons with the Americans. You take a look at China. Railguns have been mounted there for a long time on warships!
  22. spectr
    spectr 26 November 2018 14: 58
    0
    I agree with those who consider this a stuffing.
    1. Lawyer
      Lawyer 27 November 2018 17: 11
      0
      Who knows, with the creation of a compact nuclear power plant tomorrow such things will open that you can only dream of today.
      1. spectr
        spectr 28 November 2018 09: 54
        0
        Just not nuclear. Even now, when these technologies are under strict state control, accidents happen. And if released to the masses, then humanity will have a lead.
        From the point of view of quick implementation, IMHO, now it is more promising to increase the efficiency of solar panels or the creation of capacious and compact batteries, and safe compact nuclear / atomic energy is a very distant prospect.