Nationalization-2. New battle of Lugansk and Donetsk with Ukrainian business

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After the head of the Ministry of Incomes and Fees of the DPR, Timofeev (aka “Tashkent”) left Novorossia disgracefully, semi-legal production ties with Ukraine began to collapse, for which the industry, which was not under the management of Vneshtorgservice, was destroyed.





Apparently, it was decided to finally break with the Ukrainian business and the pre-war owners of industrial and mining enterprises, to start an active fight against smuggling, etc. Probably, in the future, the industry will continue to come under the control of "VTS", which today is engaged only in the most "tasty »Enterprises of coal mining, chemical and metallurgical industries.

What the “Vneshtorgservice” actually controls, no one in the republics can say with complete certainty, except for the company representatives themselves and the highest echelons of power. According to the latest data, these are metallurgical plants in Khartsyzsk, Makeyevka, Donetsk, Enakievo and Alchevsk. Coke plants in Yasinovataya, Makeyevka and Enakievo. Enterprise chemical industry "Air Likid", Komsomolsk mine administration and mine management in Krasnodon, Rovenky and Sverdlovsk. Recently, the Dokuchaevsky flux-dolomite plant has come under the control of the structure. Probably, new plants and mining enterprises will soon be added.

The first result of the fight against illegal exports was the cessation of the payment of wages in many enterprises, which until recently relatively comfortably existed under the conditions of the implementation of the "gray" schemes. Yes, the income from the activities of these enterprises went beyond the borders of the republics, partially settling in the pockets of representatives of the government structures of the republic, but people were paid and fed families. Therefore, today, when debts for 2-2,5 of the month appeared in many mines and plants, indignant voices began to sound.

In fairness it should be said that wage arrears exist in many enterprises that are hardly capable of working under “gray” schemes. So, for example, Lugansk electrical networks have just begun to pay wages for September. The management complains about the colossal debts of the Alchevsk Iron and Steel Works, which, apparently, the BTS is not in a hurry to pay.

As always, in the republics "is not so simple." But no matter how indignant the workers are, due to temporary financial and production difficulties at their enterprises, it is vital to destroy the heavy Ukrainian legacy in government and business, fight smuggling and transfer the industry of the republics to new rails. And this will have to be done both in the case of recognition of the LDNR and in the case of reunification with Russia.

Another question is how this will happen - how long will it take, how much will it first be elevated, and then will the “effective managers” go missing, how long will people have to wait for salary delays or just sit without work? If the work of nationalizing the economy is carried out fairly quickly and efficiently, it is quite possible to expect some improvement in living standards in the LDNR for the population (and a significant reduction in income for representatives of local and Ukrainian "elites"). If the process is disrupted or degenerates into profanation, the republics will lose first and foremost qualified personnel who will be forced to look for work in Russia, and after that, ordinary workers.

Population outflows and declining birth rates in the Donbas were also a significant problem in the pre-war years, but after 2014, the situation became dangerous. Considering how many men and women have moved to the Russian Federation or to Ukraine, but in fact remain registered in the LDNR, it is almost impossible to ascertain the exact migration situation. Nevertheless, it is enough to look at the birth rates in order to be worried - this year 9,5 thousand children were born in the whole Donetsk People's Republic. For comparison: in 2011, only in the city of Donetsk more than 8,8 thousand children were born.

No, the republics do not become desolate, even if life does not become simpler and easier, and the war will continue. However, the issue of restoring industry, which is vital in the long term, can be closed - the most qualified employees will find themselves in Russia, and the enterprises themselves will become worthless. So, the negative population growth will increase.

Today the situation is approaching a turning point. The challenges facing the “curators”, as well as the price of the issue, are very clear. It remains to hope that the negative experience gained in previous years was learned, and the conclusions were made.
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  1. +5
    25 November 2018 05: 31
    May God grant courage to these people at a difficult time for them.
    1. +5
      25 November 2018 10: 25
      The Ukrainian oligarchs who own the enterprises of Donbass should be condemned in absentia for supporting the anti-constitutional coup and the Nazi regime, and nationalize the property of the criminals.
  2. +2
    25 November 2018 05: 36
    Russia should help deal with business in unrecognized republics.
    1. -1
      25 November 2018 06: 02
      Russia owes nothing to anyone
    2. +7
      25 November 2018 07: 26
      How to figure it out? If Russia constantly calls for privatization of the remnants of state property, then there will also be privatization !? And who will be the privatizer? From Russia or America? The nationalization movement there seems to have been hacked to the bud. Crossed the creeps, so to speak, for fear of their transfer to Russia.
      1. +2
        25 November 2018 13: 39
        Quote: Mister Creed
        If Russia constantly calls for privatization of balances

        Leftovers? Seriously? The state, in one way or another, owns most of the industry. As for the LDNR .. the problem is not in the owners .., but in the sale of the product .. it’s not difficult to guess the lion's share of their product is tailored for Ukraine .., so .. either our producers will be "persuaded" to share .. or .. ...
  3. +8
    25 November 2018 06: 31
    Quote: riwas
    Russia should help deal with business in unrecognized republics.

    I would have to figure it out, let alone others ... stop
  4. +2
    25 November 2018 10: 00
    God forbid we see a Russian rebellion, so senseless and merciless .... But miners can arrange for hungry families ...
  5. +7
    25 November 2018 10: 32
    But no matter how outraged the workers, in connection with temporary financial and production difficulties at their enterprises, exterminating the heavy Ukrainian legacy in government and business, fighting smuggling and moving the industry of the republics to new tracks is vital.
    How interesting everything is. Especially about the "new rails". Talking about the advantages of the "Customs Union" immediately comes to mind. And the reality will be that the gray scheme of direct supplies of products to Ukraine, as well as with coal, will be replaced by a gray scheme of supplies through Russia. One more intermediary will simply be added to the chain. And no one will cry, because the "intermediary" will transfer taxes to the Russian budget. Everyone is happy, everyone wins. Except LDNR, well, that is, "no one promised anything to them." And in general, for whom is it easy now?
    1. +4
      25 November 2018 10: 55
      the gray scheme of deliveries to Ukraine fills the budget of Ukraine, the pockets of the Ukrainian business and the pockets are decided by smugglers in LDNR. the supply of products in the Russian Federation makes it possible to sell this coal more expensively and offset the cost of filling the LDNR budget.
  6. 0
    25 November 2018 12: 18
    Excellent mnogohodovochka turned out. If until 2014 a miner received from $ 1200 salaries at the top to 6000 killed raccoons in underground workings, then right now the ceiling is 15000 rubles. That bish 250 dead raccoons. And yes, but without the junta. 50% of the mines are closed and flooded. In Ukraine, an attempt to close one mine resulted in a lengthy process of 7-12 years old with a howl and squeals. And right now, everything was just docks in the mouth and went outside. Under the machine is not much pitting.
    In general, such a little world was drawn.
    1. +9
      25 November 2018 13: 07
      Quote: dgonni
      And yes, but without the junta. 50% of the mines are closed and flooded.

      Oh yeah! On the other hand, probably 100% of mines are working and miners regularly receive from 1200 to 6000 USD without delays and scammers because "Ukrainian Russia"?
    2. -1
      25 November 2018 19: 35
      This is in which country for 6000 miners are paid ????? You do not confuse with us or with England?
  7. +2
    25 November 2018 19: 49
    Quote: dgonni
    Excellent mnogohodovochka turned out. If until 2014 a miner received from $ 1200 salaries at the top to 6000 killed raccoons in underground workings, then right now the ceiling is 15000 rubles. That bish 250 dead raccoons. And yes, but without the junta. 50% of the mines are closed and flooded. In Ukraine, an attempt to close one mine resulted in a lengthy process of 7-12 years old with a howl and squeals. And right now, everything was just docks in the mouth and went outside. Under the machine is not much pitting.
    In general, such a little world was drawn.

    Although yes, you are right wassat
    Here is what the Ukrainian press writes (only not in raccoons 6000, but in hryvnias!) -

    * In the USA, the salary of miners is more than 4 thousand dollars. The average salary in the coal industry in Ukraine is 6 thousand hryvnias, a little over two hundred dollars. Moreover, it is not yet paid on time, says Mikhail Volynets, Chairman of the Independent Trade Union of Miners of Ukraine. *
    1. +1
      25 November 2018 21: 52
      An average of 14000 hryvnias in the face are obtained from a piece of bucks. But there is a small nuance at the moment there are no subsidies from the state as such! THIS BEFORE THE WAR IN DONTSKY SVERDLOVSK they shielded what you need to live for the rich, and Russia still gave more than Ukraine. Those who wish can come and ask around.
      P.S. And yes for pensions! The maximum for those with mountain experience and the minimum amount of extra allowance for receiving a miner's pension is 6500 hryvnias. Bullshit essno only 200 euros. Well, for those who didn’t work so well, 12-15 oblique in hryvnias. 400-500 euros so suddenly! So pensioners ride for retirement to the junta. Not comme il faut, of course, but with prices like in Moscow, you can’t pull out a handout in the form of dns help. This is selawy
      1. +1
        26 November 2018 12: 48
        Somehow I don’t believe that the miners in the mine receive from a piece of bucks. The news slipped that the miners in Krivoy Rog demand the same thing. From which we can conclude that they do not receive it. And with pensions it is not so simple. Great for those who worked in the face for thirty years. And such, as a rule, do not live long and there are not many of them. And for those who worked in auxiliary sites, the pension is not high.

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