Why in Donetsk began to forgive participation in the "Maidan"?

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The famous Donetsk poetess Anna Revyakina published a material, the leitmotif of which is an attempt to whitewash the Kiev poetess Yevgeny Bilchenko, noticed in support of the coup in Ukraine, the help of the terrorist organization Right Sector banned in the Russian Federation and other arts in which Bilchenko now repent. Earlier, a similar material was published by a journalist from Donetsk, Alexander Chalenko.





The Kyiv poetess, in her own words, by the end of 2016, stopped supporting the clique that had come to power, this year more and more often appears in the media sphere with statements that she recognized her past views as erroneous and in general was “for all good”.

The situation in which Bilchenko fell is not an isolated case. Recently, actor Alexei Gorbunov, who had previously actively supported Maidan, pleased the Ukrainian Armed Forces with concerts and humanitarian aid, announced his desire to act in Russian cinema. What can you do if Ukraine is slipping deeper into poverty, and the only state in which it is possible to more or less comfortably realize its talents is Russia?

If ordinary laborers have a choice (for example, they can go to pick strawberries in Poland or work at a construction site in Croatia), then people from the intelligentsia have nothing to offer to the Western world. Houses do not feed them corny, and therefore urgent need to bring hasty apologies, then to profitably sell their acting or poetic talent in St. Petersburg or Moscow. If, of course, apologies will be accepted.

Evgenia Bilchenko, with her deliberately clown appearance and impudent ability to wonder “why me?”, Is like a prototype of the modern Ukrainian intelligentsia, which, even before it was time to wash its hands smeared with blood, under the yoke of economic realities, it is increasingly demanding from Russia that understood and forgiven, and most importantly, provided good fees.

However, few are ready to rehabilitate the “color of the Kiev intelligentsia”, and the role of its lawyers was assumed by representatives of the same class, aptly called in past years “creacles”. Much more mysterious is the situation when a person who has contributed to a coup in Ukraine occupies a high post in the DPR.

We are talking about the recently appointed speaker of the People’s Council of the DPR, Vladimir Bidevka, who, in 2014, performed the duties of a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine from the Communist Party, actively voted in support of the rebels.

The deputy voted for the “early termination of the powers of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych”, for the “amnesty of Maidan activists”, for “preventing manifestations of separatism” and even for appointing Verkhovna Rada head Oleksandr Turchynov, widely known as the “bloody pastor”. Curiously, many party members of Bidevka refused to vote or voted against these decisions.





Probably, it would be possible to find excuses for the political omnipotence of the ex-People's Deputy in 2014, however, it is not possible to present him as a DNR patriot actively working in the field of strengthening the economy and defense capability of the republic, even with the most honest efforts.

In fact, among the representatives of the so-called Ukrainian elite, formed in the fat zero years, there is little respect for one or another flag. Maybe these are the peculiarities of the national mentality, or perhaps the specificity of the sociopolitical processes that took place in Ukraine during the systematic marginalization of political life since 1998.

As the political life of the country increasingly resembled the nativity scene (with the struggle of the first media nationalists against Kuchma, the dioxin president Yushchenko and other amusements), most likely something bad happened to the "elitarians" who eventually killed Ukraine. Well, let them burn down the last tires, but the problem is that a significant number of them break through into the Russian sphere of influence.

The fact that today representatives of this elite turned out to be on one side or the other of the barricades does not mean at all that they do not maintain friendly relations with colleagues "behind the flags" and, if the situation changes, they will not go over to the enemy’s camp, but before , and without all these equivalents. Because the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian politicians, businessmen, court journalists, poets and singers really do not care about flags and emblems: grown under the banner of progressive Ukrainian insanity, they don’t believe in these symbols.

And therefore, no matter how many “curators” struggle, it is impossible to wipe out the representatives of the Ukrainian elites from the authorities in the LDNR completely, as well as completely separate them from property and business interests in the republics.

No matter how many border guards, fiscals and other regulatory agencies fight, smuggling from LDNR continues to go in all possible directions: metal products and coal from the republics; food, mobile phones and other goods - in the republic. Isn't it indicative that in Donetsk stores you still can buy candies from the Roshen factory, Odessa brandy, and mineral water from western Ukraine, and there is no objective need for Ukrainian products since winter 2015.

As for organically associated with the very Ukrainian "elite" representatives of the "creative class", they will always be ready to support and forgive their colleagues in the shop, who did not break off from the bloody Kiev pie.

Because all this is a fairly homogeneous space in which everyone knows each other. Often since the reign of Kuchma.

And the only way to somehow calm the "fraternization" of the Ukrainian elitarians, striving for status consumption in any case, is to consistently force them out of all vital areas and replace them with new, newly formed elites.

The only question is where to get the new elite in conditions of hard time pressure?
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  1. +20
    24 November 2018 06: 19
    What's new here? The whole metropolitan party lives on and actively pushes the cult of venality.
    1. +17
      24 November 2018 07: 47
      good
      What's new here? The whole metropolitan party lives on and actively pushes the cult of venality.


      You are one of the few who didn’t name these ...... Respect svp good , and the Moscow party.

      As they were in the 1980s, the Moscow party still remained, some increased their titles of cultural figures, while others had money in green lards of U.E.
      And about the slaves of the dollar whose symbol is the all-seeing eye, according to my observations, you can write the following .....

      If you be careful, and systematize everything that is noticed simplifying to a few sentences, we get an interesting picture.
      Exactly as long as the head of the Fed can rely on legislation in the form of a heap of interconnected acts of legislative-executive-judicial power, he will be able to lower the dollar interest rate to zero and even go to minus -0,2% and so on.
      Thus, the US debt can grow forever, and will not be burdensome for the United States, from the word at all.

      And so that the elites at the head of the most powerful nations would not be able to notice having bought them a little with offal, all elites need to learn at least economic theories, the market economy of the Anglo-Saxons, and a maximum of one of the universities in the United States or Britain.
      (According to the theory of Installation (Uznadze) and the theory of dominant (Ukhtomsky), the essence of which is as follows, the focus of excitation in one of the sections of the cerebral cortex is maintained due to inhibition of the neurons surrounding this focus.
      Installation Theory sets the direction and retention of worldviews in the focus of dominance and the worldview of a person, once formed in youth or youth, his whole life will be saved)


      This liberal market audience ((((elite)))) will have a stable tunnel perception of the surrounding reality with pink glasses in the center of the tunnel, and black glasses in dark colors on the sides of the tunnel.

      That is, our sworn friends were able to create epodromic horses from all the elites of the leading nations, with eyes blinkered on each side.

      Now, over the past 50-70 years, they have been organizing races around the world according to the rules of the Stanislav Govorukhin Ass film. Namely, according to the rules of the global mafia.

      That is, the government debt of the bearers of democracy is dimensionless and rubbery, and its sum from the word is not at all burdensome for the US economy, any $ 100 trillion at least.
      1. SOF
        +8
        24 November 2018 09: 30
        good
        ... support ....
        ... and I will add: and the course of the world economy can only be within the corridor provided by the FRS ... and of course - the dependence of the world economy on the FRS printing press is the only correct one and ... there is no alternative ... this nonsense rushes from all the mouths of the "leading" economists of the Russian Federation, brought up on the "deep knowledge" of the "economists" of the Bilderberg Club .....
        ....... and ...... sorry for the offtopic, but ..... can we help the Murmansk International Airport not get the "proud name" of the tsar who destroyed the Russian Empire ..... "Ivan Papanin", on my opinion would sound much better ...
        1. +2
          24 November 2018 15: 35
          It is deployed in simple terms, they explain who all 100% professors of economic universities are, who the hellish monsters of Gaidar-Chubais economic reforms are.
          In general, this is called betrayal of the homeland, with the corresponding article in the USSR, now request ??

          Anyway, whoever finds this, I personally read his book in 2005.
          Liberal Model and Protectionism (French protectionnisme, from lat. Protection - protection, patronage)
      2. 0
        25 November 2018 17: 36
        There is one problem - in China they shot their "elite" Bo Xilai, and now, relying on the industrial capacities selected by the Anglo-Saxons, are breaking this system. A system with an infinite debt would be good for everyone, but here and there there appear "non-elite" local comrades from the Power who do not want to be such racehorses at all and begin to move away from this step by step. The same China - hacked the key element of the Anglo-Saxons in the management of other countries "free media" - putting them under complete control and, most importantly, its own Internet. good Thus, in essence, destroying the very idea of ​​a "tweeter revolution" in China. good ... A similar tendency to "nationalize the elites" is under way in India and in other countries. The Anglo-Saxons, out of their own stupidity, create that very mythical Heartland. lol . By uniting the largest countries of Eurasia into a huge conglomerate, which will no longer depend on anyone else.
        Do you know what the problem of the "dimensionless debt" is - not that it cannot be paid, but that all this money can someday become Real, that is, it first gets into the economy and then into debt or from these debts there can be "materialized" ... And here is the problem, the Earth has nothing to offer for such an insane amount of "money", which means either you will have to recognize the "zero dollar value" or one of two things. Added to this is another crisis, well, the capitalist economy cannot develop linearly, well, in any way, only along a sinusoid and the higher the "top", the correspondingly "lower the bottom". Many no longer spoke and wrote - the fall will be terrifying that the Great Depression of the 30s will seem like childish pranks.
        1. +1
          26 November 2018 08: 45
          There is one problem - in China they shot their "elite" Bo Xilai, and now, relying on the industrial capacities selected by the Anglo-Saxons, are breaking this system.


          They have been breaking this system since the beginning of the 19th century opium wars.

          You, like many, do not understand the specifics of the East, China, Japan, Korea.
          This is not the Christian culture of East-West Europeans.

          Look for a long explanation on the net and find ...

          In China, the millennial doctrine of the peoples of the common path, which is not affected by either feudolism, communism, or capitalism, and which cannot be influenced from above by the word at all.
          The words mentality, the words ethnos, the words culture, they will not explain anything to you.

          1. First, try to understand what a Chinese, Korean, and Japanese character is.
          2, Then study what is available about Chinese philosophy, from Confucius onwards.
          And only then you will begin to understand something, do not go on the road Bushev-Trump.
          3. And for a complete understanding, live in China for about five years, and that may not be enough.
        2. 0
          26 November 2018 09: 01
          Many didn’t talk and write anymore - the fall would be terrible that the great depression of 30 years would seem childish pranks.


          There will be no fall of the United States, only by military means like the Third Reich, or the second civil war of the north with the south.

          The perfect dollar fraudulent currency in the history of the earth, whose stability is supported by aircraft carriers, not what you wrote.

          Added to this is another crisis, well, the capitalist economy cannot develop linearly, well, in any way, only along a sinusoid and the higher the "top", the correspondingly "lower the bottom".


          The dollar has no bottom, and not when it will not, like in a game of thimbles, literally the same thing.

          And just like in the game of thimbles, even if you are a super-fighter of all styles, a multiple world champion, and have sat down to play alone, this will not save you, because you will get corny at the back of the head when you don’t expect it, and when you wake up will not be in your pocket.

          It is not possible to compete with them alone in the financial field, because you cannot invent so much vileness. You can only fight with them, but in no case do not play the war.
  2. +18
    24 November 2018 06: 23
    There is nowhere to take new elites. Have to deal with such. Now they are looking for channels to surrender, some to Russia, some to the West. And why in the Donbass forgive? The war will end all the time, LDNR will remain part of Ukraine. So they make connections for later life
    1. 0
      24 November 2018 09: 09
      Quote: Silvestr
      There is nowhere to take new elites. Have to deal with such.

      There is an option - to become the elite. How does a boss differ from a subordinate? Knowledge. And how does one boss differ from another? Degree of enlightenment. Having mastered the knowledge of an accessible elite, which by the way are freely available on the Internet, we ourselves will become an elite. The catch is that the school did everything in its power so that the vast majority of students, by the end of their education, would hate to learn. The school under capitalism is one of the tools to keep the crowd in bestial condition.
      1. +8
        24 November 2018 09: 40
        Quote: Boris55
        There is an option - to become the elite.

        it's not gonna go.
        In our country, the way up is personal devotion, family ties, or money.
        In any case, someone will force them to work out and do the wrong thing. What do you want.
        1. 0
          24 November 2018 10: 27
          Quote: Silvestr
          it's not gonna go.

          In order for the "elite" to get everything rolling, they spend a lot of money on psychological treatment of the population: the media, TV shows with morons, paid bloggers on social networks, etc. and all this is completely free of charge for us. Do you think it's just that, from the kindness of your soul? No. They understand perfectly well that "Until the idea has taken possession of the masses, it is dead." So they push us their idea in a beautiful package, behind which we do not see its contents ...

          In order for it to work with us, we need to have a distinction: what is good and what is bad. See not only the packaging, but also its contents. Distinction will come only with the acquisition of knowledge, and as soon as we acquire this knowledge, no one else in the World will force us to sell our Homeland for two Volga.
          1. +5
            24 November 2018 14: 53
            “The main task of the elite is to fight for power! Not for money! If you have Power, then the question of money is not even worth it. Others will bring and offer themselves!
            But if there is no change in the elite (“variability”), then it degenerates after several generations. The environment is changing, but the elite is not. It is for this reason that feudalism, with its invariable class, loses to capitalism.
            The trouble is that at the same time people come to the elite (that is, to the tops of power groups) for whom the laws of power are poorly mastered, or even simply not known.
            And for this reason, capitalism has created a whole bunch of institutions in which people, first of all, are checked for knowledge of the rules, and if the next exam is not passed, they are not allowed to the next level; and secondly, they teach.
            The Russian elite is changing rapidly, and there is a huge number of people who are sincerely convinced that power is money! All the time they run into circumstances that show them that this is not so; they lose this money, they don’t understand what is happening, then they “see clearly”, they see their tactical mistakes, but nothing can be done.
            The USSR handed over a new generation of leaders who did not fully understand the laws of power. And in Russia there are practically no such people
            The trouble with Russia is that we do not have institutions for preparing people for advancement in power. There are institutes for training managers, but there are no people of power!
            In our country it is not mice, not frogs, but unknown animals that fall into power. Who themselves do not know where they got to, what to do and how to resolve issues. But they know for sure that in the West there is a "sacred right" of private property, but we do not! Well, they are trying to sell part of the Motherland in exchange for the preservation of the acquired millions and billions by "overwork". "
            M. Khazin
            1. 0
              24 November 2018 15: 07
              Quote: Silvestr
              "The main task of the elite is to fight for power!
              M. Khazin

              I'm not going to argue with Khazin.

              Book: "Garden" grows itself ?:

              "On ethics, managerial professionalism, on the full function of government in Russia and in the United States, on the general crisis of capitalism and Marxism, on theory, practice, problems and prospects of" convergence "and on some other details during the global historical and political process":

              http://files.kob.su/books/dotu/07_sotsiolog/00_garden-grows_itself/20090613_tek_moment0690.rar
        2. +1
          24 November 2018 13: 11
          Quote: Silvestr
          it's not gonna go.

          "... Previously, scientists thought that only an experienced male, who already knew this path, could become the leader (of a flock of birds). But it turned out that the leader of the flock can also be a very young bird that has never flown this way." The laws of life for populations of humans, animals, plants are the same.

          Quote: Oleg Zhepalov
          new elites find themselves.
    2. +1
      24 November 2018 11: 33
      LDNR will remain part of Ukraine only under one condition ---- A FULL change of power and dispersal of national-armed groups!
  3. +20
    24 November 2018 06: 51
    Is it better here? You can insult the Russian people, Russia and continue to act and earn money. Directors and producers, for the most part also hidden enemies, but since they have more brains than actors and singers, try not to advertise their antipathy. Why to the Russians? So this is the safest way, for the rest of the nations, in view of their small size and great arrogance, you can get the accusation of inciting ethnic hatred. There is probably no more such a country where freaks are allowed on official channels that offend the history of the country and its leaders.
  4. +11
    24 November 2018 07: 12
    Oh, they saw the light ... For the last 30 years, we (like ukram, by the way) were actively told that the main thing in life is to make money. And they told it right. The main principle of capitalism, (not formed by Karl Marx, he just voiced it in the most famous way - this is making a profit .. PROFIT !!!!!!. Not growing bread, not mining coal, gas or oil, not trading in Roshen candies or Western soda - and GETTING PROFIT! And while it is profitable - they will do it, nothing personal - just business.
  5. +6
    24 November 2018 07: 23
    Behind the backs of the guys in the trenches "bidovki" were registered ... request .... The letter "H" can already be dropped from the name of the republic.
  6. +4
    24 November 2018 07: 29
    We are kind of like "Big Brother" for Donbass. Should we set an example ???
  7. +12
    24 November 2018 07: 45
    And V. I. Lenin was right! The whole intelligentsia is ... obviously! And it really does not sink and pops up! Many condemned him for these words. But today they are fully confirmed! Take many intellectuals today and listen and read their speeches (thoughts) !? There is no money and pasta is not the proletarians said. The state did not ask for birth, these are not the words of a lupman and a gopnik. Yes, you still can say much! And divide Russia along the Urals, and repent, and condemn the resistance to fascism, and much more. And all this, after all, was spoken by far from stupid people (or, conversely, very stupid) considered the color of the nation! After their pearls, and moans about the expulsion and destruction of the color of the nation after the Revolution, their sayings are perceived in a completely different way.
    1. +3
      24 November 2018 09: 18
      Quote: Mister Creed
      And it really does not sink and pops up!

      Do you know why? Because only it possesses management knowledge. As Comrade Stalin: "Cadres decide everything." So they decide.


      The same old-time cadres were engaged in training workers and soldiers. And as they say, what kind of teacher, such and students.
      1. +1
        24 November 2018 22: 42
        maybe Lenin and a populist! but what! I am the first time from him bastard
  8. +1
    24 November 2018 09: 27
    Reformatting started?
  9. +4
    24 November 2018 09: 34
    There is an opinion: in the class struggle, the most corrupt is the class of the intelligentsia.
  10. +2
    24 November 2018 10: 40
    Remember, so this whole pseudocultural party is generally unnecessary to anyone, only to ourselves. Revolutions and collapses begin with them, their ambitions are higher than the roof, and the exhaust is zero.
  11. +4
    24 November 2018 11: 26
    Recently, actor Alexei Gorbunov, who had previously actively supported the Maidan, was delighted with the APU's concerts and humanitarian aid, his desire to act in Russian films

    as for me, Russia and the Russian Federation are not the same thing. Since the ruling class does not represent the interests of Russia, do not confuse it against the country or against the country's policy.
    Desire and support of the Maidan ... somewhere I already saw

    for some reason his career is rushing ...
    and not only him
    to represent him as a patriot of the DPR, who is actively working in the field of strengthening the economy and defense of the republic, fails even with the most honest efforts.

    they choose to power not according to their abilities, but according to their connections and devotion (in most cases). If in Russia otherwise, I’m ready to take my words back.
    These are partners and differences between Ukrainian and Russian-NO.
    No matter how much the border guards, fiscals and other regulatory bodies fight, smuggling from LDNR continues to go in all possible directions: metal products and coal from the republics; food products, mobile phones and other goods - to the republic

    bees against honey. It’s put on stream. Whether they’ve done a gray zone or something ... Already they reported on the organization that controls this
    Is it not indicative that you can still buy Roshen sweets, Odessa cognac, and mineral water from western Ukraine in Donetsk shops, and there has been no objective need for Ukrainian products since the winter of 2015.

    Eared nannies, Pearl paste, and much more, on the shelves of the country ....
    It is corny cheaper. Those products that are better (cost quality) are more likely to enter the market. They are competitive.
    And the only way to somehow calm the "fraternization" of the Ukrainian elitarians, striving for status consumption in any case, is to consistently force them out of all vital areas and replace them with new, newly formed elites.

    no difference, if in the Russian Federation there are none, then where to import from? From China?
    It's like with Dutch cows and English sheep .... degenerate after a couple of generations. With people faster.
    This is a system.
    1. +1
      24 November 2018 14: 01
      About "not the same" - more than true. Many bought into this in 2014 ... Now the fate of Mozgovoy, Ishchenko, Dremov, Bednov explains everything to everyone.
    2. +2
      24 November 2018 18: 58
      Quote: Antares
      somewhere I've seen

      Here is another shot from the same films.
  12. +1
    24 November 2018 12: 08
    Evgenia Bilchenko, with her deliberately clown appearance and impudent ability to wonder “why me?”, Is like a prototype of the modern Ukrainian intelligentsia, which, even before it was time to wash its hands smeared with blood, under the yoke of economic realities, it is increasingly demanding from Russia that understood and forgiven, and most importantly, provided good fees.


    This madam is like a woman with low social responsibility.
    Insight? God is merciful, he will forgive. Actions-a measure of man. Like there in the Bible: May yours be yes, may yours be no. And that’s over from the evil one. Judge them by their deeds. Although, I can not vouch for the accuracy of citation, but the meaning is as follows.
  13. +1
    24 November 2018 14: 42
    But what can I say th .. but it always floats on top. And we have, starting with a letter to the Japanese Mikado with congratulations on the victory over Russia in 1905, 1991, 1993, etc. and now these "figures", the "conscience" of the nation, etc., are looking for how they call themselves, how to betray someone for their own benefit.
  14. +2
    24 November 2018 14: 46
    A correct and relevant article, the author promptly raises the topic on which the moral side of society depends. Surely volunteer managers will be in Russia (like volunteer fighters) and will go to LDNR to restore the national economy of Donbass, and Russia will provide normal (and not corrupt) bohemia, I think that not everyone is trying to jump into the last wagon heading west .
  15. +1
    24 November 2018 15: 58
    Thanks a lot to the author! I did not know about the "famous Donetsk poetess" (there is no time to travel along the road "Donetsk-Makeevka". I respect the ticket !!!
  16. +4
    24 November 2018 16: 17
    Probably all people (of course reading) remember the image of the unforgettable Judushka Golovlev, described by ME Saltykov-Shchedrin in his novel "The Lord Golovlevs". I never cease to be amazed at the historical cyclical nature of events, images, trends and human deeds. And this time everything repeats itself, like a carbon copy. Learn history from archival records by heart, so that you can see, understand, evaluate everything in time, so that there are no such Bilchenko, Gorbunovs, Bidevko, and other creatures of our time - "politicians, businessmen, court journalists, poets and singers ..." , in fact, "do not care deeply about flags and coats of arms" and who, sensing the "loot", will quickly overstep into the camp of the enemy and sell the most expensive and the most expensive, not for the smell of tobacco and will delight in tearing, biting and eagerly sharing suggested bloody pie.
  17. Yat
    +3
    24 November 2018 18: 26
    Is everything safe in the Russian ruling elite? Are there any positions of Kudrin, Yumashev, Voloshin, Chubais, Surkov, Kiriyenko?
  18. +5
    24 November 2018 18: 50
    Why did Donetsk begin to forgive participation in the Maidan?

    Maybe because the Kremlin has forgiven everyone for a long time. They called the pig "the best choice" and reaped the hoof. Pushilin is also not "from the plow" and not from the trenches, but from the Kremlin.
  19. +2
    24 November 2018 20: 01
    The main thing for this party is to change the headpiece on time (Wedding in Robin),
  20. +2
    24 November 2018 20: 05
    yes what for we need our parasites enough
  21. +1
    24 November 2018 22: 38
    In general, everything is correct - to realize your creative potential in Moscow ... but why only actors and poets? why not engineers? here what can expect from them "Elite" which has real estate abroad?
  22. +2
    25 November 2018 01: 13
    If Putin is talking about the growth of trade and investment in Ukraine, then what to look at nervous intelligence ....

    And what are the dreams of a new elite in the article? goes against the government?
  23. 0
    27 November 2018 09: 34
    But is Evgeny Bilchenko so bad that he is not even proud of Polish brothels?
  24. 0
    29 November 2018 19: 26
    The conclusion of the article is wonderful. Only in Russia it is necessary to carry out the same work with the elites, only tougher.

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