Haaretz: Interests of Vladimir Putin limit the capabilities of the IDF

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Israeli newspaper "Ha'aretz"(Haaretz) published an analytical article by Amos Arel about the interests of Vladimir Putin in Syria and Lebanon.





It is noted that in recent years, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), acting in Syria, sought to halt the strengthening of Iran’s military presence in this country. Between the IDF and the Corps of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (an elite Iranian military-political formation) in the winter and summer there were many clashes. "Skirmishes" - probably Israeli strikes on the territory of Syria.

After the strengthening of the Assad regime in Syria and the incident with the downed Russian reconnaissance aircraft Il-20 Syrian air defense, the situation has changed. Although the intensity of the IDF’s operations has decreased significantly, in recent months at least two Israeli strikes against Syria have been reported.

A meeting organized by Israel through tremendous efforts between Benjamin Netanyahu and Vladimir Putin, held in Paris, did not help resolve the crisis. The Russian president said that in the near future he no longer plans to meet with Netanyahu.

Moreover, Vladimir Putin recently noted an increased interest in events in Lebanon. Russia may even more confuse Israel’s maps by giving Lebanon a real or political “protective umbrella”. The publication notes that, according to Arab media, the Israeli Air Force did not conduct air strikes in Lebanon since February 2014. This vision is an Israeli expert.

Earlier in the press were given predictions about the development of the Israeli Air Force.

After Israel received the first squadron of F-35I Adir fighters, the Israeli Ministry of Defense and the Air Force are considering the possibility of concluding a deal with Boeing.

The deal will allow you to purchase F-15IA fighter jets, Chinook transport helicopters, as well as V-22 converters and KC-46 tankers. The amount of the transaction can reach 11 billion dollars.

In 2016, the United States and Israel signed historical a military assistance package, according to which Israel will receive $ 10 billion in defense assistance from the United States over 38 years. Funds for the transaction will be allocated from this package.

At the moment, the Israeli Air Force received X-NUMX fighter F-12I Adir, assembled by Lockheed Martin. It is expected that by the year 35 the number of fifth generation fighters of the same model in service with Israel will reach 2024 units.

Israel’s desire to purchase F-15IA fighters from Boeing is due to lower operating costs relative to previous models, as well as the fact that the old models of this fighter, F-15, were purchased in 70's, and F-15I - in 90 -h.

In addition, Israel is interested in buying F-35B, with the possibility of vertical take-off and landing.

Also, the company Boeing offers Israel to purchase tankers KC-46, created on the basis of civilian Boeing 767. The KS-46 accommodates 207 000 pounds of fuel with a maximum range of almost 12 000 km and can refuel more than 64 aircraft.

By 2025, Israel also plans to replace Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion Yas'ur large-capacity helicopters with CH-47F Chinook.
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  1. +4
    23 November 2018 10: 05
    Do banking, accountants, comrades!
    Where do you go, besiege!
    1. +6
      23 November 2018 10: 14
      Netanyahu began to fuss - he fell into disfavor with the GDP.
      1. +23
        23 November 2018 10: 43
        In 2016 year between the US and Israel was signed historical military assistance packageaccording to which Israel will receive 10 billion worth of defense assistance from the United States over the course of 38 years. Funds for the transaction will be allocated from this package.

        I don’t understand one thing. There is a clear horseshoe on the part of the United States in relation to Israel. Namely.

        When did the US historically provide free and disinterested military assistance to anyone? Yes, never!
        And what then does Washington need from Israel in exchange for "free" military assistance to Israel? Continuation of the US proxy war on BW by Israeli forces? It seems so.
        Well then, what better Israel ISIS? In principle, by and large nothing.

        Israel is a proxy state for US military and economic hegemony in the BV.
        1. +11
          23 November 2018 10: 55
          The Jewish lobby is very strong in the United States, so it is not known who is the commander of this pair to a greater extent, but the fact that Israel is a military club in BV is a fact.
          1. +3
            23 November 2018 13: 22
            The meeting, organized by great efforts on the part of Israel, between Benjamin Netanyahu and Vladimir Putin, held in Paris, did not help resolve the crisis.

            Well, at least they would wait a year before falsifying the story.
            Macron clearly said that this holiday is exclusively French, and he does not want to see any other meetings in Paris these days.
            Putin and Trump agreed, and canceled all the meetings.
            Putin met with Netanyahu in the corridor and greeted ... After this, wishes for health in Israel, another crisis began in Gaza, with corpses, and Netanyahu hastily interrupted his visit to France and returned.
            And after that, "a meeting organized with great effort."
            How then to believe them?
        2. 0
          23 November 2018 11: 53
          In the summer I was on vacation in Israel and a relative living there since 1991 said that the Israeli government wants to transfer all pension savings to American pension funds. This is the price of the historic military aid package
          1. -1
            23 November 2018 13: 31
            And when they flew back, for inspection on a plane, with noodles on their ears they missed without problems?
            1. -1
              26 November 2018 09: 55
              haha, watch your ears, well, track the noodles on your ears)))
              usually with datish Jews something like noodles hangs on the ears)
        3. 0
          23 November 2018 12: 58
          Lend-lease supplies were completely free for the most part, we must pay tribute, completely disinterested, because the United States respected its interests there (the official name of the law is the law to protect the United States; in fact, they successfully paid off before entering the war) . Under the terms of a mutual assistance agreement based on this law:
          - delivered materials (cars, various military equipment, weapons, raw materials, other items) destroyed, lost and used during the war are not subject to payment;
          - property transferred under Lend-Lease, remaining after the end of the war and suitable for civilian purposes, will be paid in full or in part on the basis of long-term loans provided by the United States (mainly interest-free loans);
          - in case of interest of the American side, undamaged and not lost machinery and equipment should be returned after the war in the USA.
          As a result, the USSR received assistance from the USA for 11,3 billion US dollars, but 0,7 billion was paid. Has the US provided more than 10 billion US dollars for free? Yes of course. Was this done selfishly (with a desire for enrichment)? No, no doubt about it. The United States received an intangible benefit in this - providing its protection as they wanted. Admittedly, this was one of the few meaningful, decent and honest actions of the United States in the international arena, on the other hand it was rather funny that the United States provoked the fascist threat by pumping up the German economy, and the United States strongly supported and continues to support certain fascist manifestations after the war, present time. In general, this country is all so sudden, so controversial all.
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          3. +1
            23 November 2018 13: 49
            Ai-ya-yay! You contradict yourself.

            Navigator Basov
            As a result, the USSR received assistance from the USA for 11,3 billion US dollars, but 0,7 billion was paid. Has the US provided more than 10 billion US dollars for free? Yes of course.
            I can't vouch for the numbers. But that's about that "Was this done selfishly (with a desire for enrichment)? No, no doubt about it. "one can argue. Although you yourself are on the right track.
            "The United States received an intangible benefit in this - ensuring its protection, as it wanted. <...> the fascist threat was provoked by the United States itself, pumping up the German economy, and the United States in every possible way supported and supports individual fascist manifestations after the war until the present time. "
            After WWII, all world currencies were dollarized. And where did you see the US STRATEGIC disinterestedness in US military assistance to the USSR at the end of the war against Germany? When you say that "Admittedly, this was one of the few meaningful, DECENT, and HONEST actions of the USA in the international arena."
            Alas, by and large it only seems to you.

            Your view of history in this matter is mosaic, fragmented, historically time-limited - not systemically synthesized - in nature. And this is a logical mistake.
          4. +2
            23 November 2018 14: 31
            States with Lend Lisa learned including material benefit. According to the calculations of amers, they would have costed 100 billion dollars to win Germany without a Union in a war, 11.7 were granted
          5. -1
            23 November 2018 16: 42
            Quote: Navigator Basov
            Lend-Lease supplies were completely free for the most part

            what???? belay
        4. +1
          23 November 2018 13: 20
          "When did the US historically provide military assistance to anyone free of charge and disinterestedly?" ///
          ------
          How, Tatyana? belay Lend Lease. To forget this. Go urgently to the "history" branch, they tell in detail about it.
          Assistance to Israel - small pennies compared with the help of the USSR.
          In 1944-45 years to 50% of the American industry worked for the USSR.
          From food and mining to ships and airplanes.
          That was a help!
          1. +4
            23 November 2018 13: 29
            Write in more detail where did 50% come from?
            1. +3
              23 November 2018 14: 10
              voyaka uh
              Assistance to Israel - small pennies compared with the help of the USSR.
              In 1944-45 years to 50% of the American industry worked for the USSR.
              From food and mining to ships and airplanes.
              That was a help!

              Alexey! So Israel is territorially and in terms of population the size of a penny compared to the USSR!
              And the Arab countries today are not the then Germany, for which all of Europe and the USA worked.
              And Israel does not fight on its territory, as the USSR fought.

              So this is your comparison, that "Aid to Israel is a small penny in comparison with the help of the USSR" , yours is not entirely correct - neither logically, nor historically, nor politically!
              1. +2
                23 November 2018 15: 01
                So I do not argue that the Soviet Union needed thousands or thousands of times more weapons than Israel. This is true. I was simply surprised that you forgot about the fact of help to the USSR.
                Well, in the polemic anti-American enthusiasm - it happens! Excusable.
                1. +2
                  23 November 2018 16: 46
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  I was simply surprised that you forgot about the fact of help to the USSR.

                  the word "help" sounds strange in this context.
                  tell me, would you call the situation in which your neighbor sells fire extinguisher when your house is on fire, even though you know that it is this neighbor who set fire to your house?
                  1. -4
                    23 November 2018 20: 39
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    the word "help" sounds strange in this context.
                    Tell me, would you call help a situation in which your neighbor sells you a fire extinguisher when your house is burning, even though you know that this particular neighbor is setting fire to your house?


                    You somehow forget about a fairly active trade exchange between the USSR and Germany, the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact and much more. The Soviet Union in many ways, if not sadly, set its own house on fire itself. Like Poland, a bit of a piece of Czechoslovakia, for example, like other countries that have committed both the invasion of Europe and the invasion of the USSR. History is not black and white. And, unfortunately, the Second World War, the USSR began to play partly on the bad side. Quickly the truth came to their senses, even before the outbreak of hostilities on its territory, but it was too late.

                    Without military operations in the Pacific Ocean, the USSR would not have the forces that were transferred from the Far East for the battle of Moscow. Without Lendleez and other supplies of the allies of the USSR, it would have been much weaker and the Victory would have been given more blood, and without the bombing by the allies of the Third Reich, Germany would have been much stronger
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2018 18: 03
                      Quote: Pimply
                      You somehow forget about the fairly active exchange of goods between the USSR and Germany, the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact and much more.

                      that is, you do not forget about the "Munich agreement" and the trade between the United States and Germany during the entire war?
                      that when the fascists came to power, economic relations between the USSR and Germany ceased, do you also remember? or forgot?
                      about who was at the Olympics for 36 years and who was not forgotten too, or do you still remember?
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Without military operations in the Pacific Ocean, the USSR would not have the forces that had been transferred from the Far East for the battle of Moscow.

                      shield ???? belay is it serious now ???? or sarcasm?
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Without Lendliz and other supplies of the allies of the USSR would have been much weaker

                      how much? 4%? how much help did the USSR get in lendlize in 1941 when it turned the tide of the war near Moscow? if you don’t know, then 1% of the total volume of lendlization for 41 years, that is, almost nothing.
          2. MMX
            +3
            23 November 2018 13: 42
            Quote: voyaka uh
            "When did the US historically provide military assistance to anyone free of charge and disinterestedly?" ///
            ------
            How, Tatyana? belay Lend Lease. To forget this. Go urgently to the "history" branch, they tell in detail about it.
            Assistance to Israel - small pennies compared with the help of the USSR.
            In 1944-45 years to 50% of the American industry worked for the USSR.
            From food and mining to ships and airplanes.
            That was a help!


            Maybe this is for you in the history section? What is a land lease do you know? How to translate?
            Lend-lease payments were made.
            Well, as for the total volumes, you need to look at the ratio after all. Yes, the total volume of deliveries for the USSR was considerable (especially in comparison with the difference in the scale of the USSR and Israel), but in relation to the total volume of production in the USSR, this is a small fraction.
            But with Israel, a completely different picture.
            1. 0
              23 November 2018 15: 06
              Yes Yes! Right now in the history section there are interesting facts about "lease" - lend-lease.
              Just for you. good
      2. +1
        23 November 2018 13: 09
        Quote: Bearded
        Netanyahu began to fuss - he fell into disfavor with the GDP.

        Everything is much simpler, Putin sent Benya to a well-known address on a long erotic journey, and Israel urgently began to rearm, because at last it came to the God-chosen ones that they would no longer have sex with him.
        1. 0
          23 November 2018 13: 39
          These purchases were approved by the General Staff about a year ago.
          No connection with Putin and Netanyahu.
    2. +1
      23 November 2018 22: 44
      But it will not hurt us to continue to do what we do: sign an agreement with Lebanon, supply them with a complete set of S-300/400, TOP, BUK and the rest of the nomenclature for A2 / AD and make this country a Russian resort.
  2. 0
    23 November 2018 10: 08
    Arabs can arrange a final colocost for you
    1. +8
      23 November 2018 10: 32
      Arabs!? Then I look that over the past half century they all got snotty ..
      1. 0
        23 November 2018 10: 35
        And what if international instructors appear in the ranks of the Arabs?
        We need to think about evacuation. Departure ways to draw, who through Lebanon, who else where. Prepare a disturbing suitcase!
        1. BAI
          +1
          23 November 2018 10: 53
          There were many conflicts. Did not help. Even the Soviet MIG-21s with Soviet crews were lost.
          1. 0
            23 November 2018 10: 57
            But I didn’t mean Russians under the international, there are people who want to around the world.
        2. +4
          23 November 2018 10: 55
          An alarming suitcase I prepared for the final disassembly with Bandera .. hi And these Arabs .. Yes pah on them. They are useless.
          1. +2
            23 November 2018 11: 09
            Bandera nursery was created back in the 70s and 80s, and if you dig deep into it, there Austria-Hungary tried. There for a long time, if not forever. I urge you to just think, count, sort of not stupid people. Why aggravate the situation in BV. Live peacefully, everything is enough for everyone. And food and water and the sun is warm and the sea is near. You can scam the Stalinist inheritance. I appeal to the instinct of self-preservation.
        3. jjj
          +5
          23 November 2018 10: 56
          So inside Israel is not very calm. Repatriates from the countries of the USSR still remain second-class people. And if the child is a Christian, then they try to treat him. It is in Russia - Jews are smart and talented people. In Israel, they quickly begin to resemble Americans
          1. +2
            23 November 2018 16: 03
            Quote: jjj
            But inside Israel is not very calm. Repatriates from the countries of the USSR still remain second-class people. And if the child is a Christian, then they try to treat him.

            share the source of this interesting .. information.
            I live as if in everyday life; I don’t feel the second grade of a deby.
          2. 0
            23 November 2018 19: 25
            Quote: jjj
            So inside Israel is not very calm. Repatriates from the countries of the USSR still remain second-class people. And if the child is a Christian, then they try to treat him. It is in Russia - Jews are smart and talented people. In Israel, they quickly begin to resemble Americans

            Well, of course, only second-class people are appointed ministers, the speaker of the Knesset, the chief physicians of the departments, and the heads of the department of large companies laughing And as for the children of Christians, I also did not understand - to cure for what?
        4. -2
          23 November 2018 11: 20
          And there were also enough instructors. The result is the same.
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    2. -1
      23 November 2018 11: 19
      Already tried several times. How did it all end for the Arabs?
    3. -3
      23 November 2018 11: 32
      "Arabs can arrange for you" ////
      ------
      Did this esoteric clairvoyance tell you? smile Egyptian priests? wink
      Economic comparisons (figures) say Israel’s industry is stronger,
      than all the Arab countries combined. For the firepower of the army - the same thing.
      Only nuclear war threatens us. Like everyone: America, Russia, and Europe.
      But (like everyone else) we are taking energetic measures to prevent this from happening.
      1. 0
        23 November 2018 11: 38
        Well, you yourself have predicted the alignment ... And the Egyptian priests will help.
        Apparently the Scientologists are crowning instead ...
        1. +4
          23 November 2018 11: 45
          What Scientologists? Small fry ... I work from reptilians with Nibiru. laughing
          1. 0
            23 November 2018 11: 49
            And what about the handicaps didn’t?
            "We are threatened with destruction only by nuclear war." - Shhh-secret ...
          2. 0
            23 November 2018 13: 04
            Quote: voyaka uh
            What Scientologists? Small fry ... I work from reptilians with Nibiru. laughing

            Are you from ward number 6? Run off or open day?
          3. 0
            23 November 2018 16: 26
            I’m not sure about the reptilians, but the fact that the Zionists (fascists) are the military slaves of the owners of the Fed is a fact. Thank you for your frankness.
      2. 0
        23 November 2018 20: 48
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Only nuclear war threatens us.

        I think not only. If God forbid, Russia accidentally or because of oblivion clash in Syria, then you have to drape somewhere in the direction of South Africa.
        And Merika will not help.
  3. +4
    23 November 2018 10: 14
    Arabs can make a mess, but for something more, real for the elite, critical, one of the more specific guys should go.
    1. +1
      23 November 2018 10: 15
      And the Iranians with the Arabs?
      1. +4
        23 November 2018 10: 22
        Persians can and will want, but not with the Arabs in conjunction, there is its own bickering / rivalry, centuries-old. One, without permission, support, one of the real world powers, the Persians have nothing to catch there. They won’t give.
        I do not compare only the military potential of the warring parties, external support must be taken into account there.
        1. 0
          23 November 2018 10: 25
          So the Persians will pump, technology, weapons, and loans to Iran, George Soros will help, will throw off the common fund. laughing
          The Israel project closes with the filing of a hot Israeli military.
          1. +2
            23 November 2018 10: 54
            The East is a delicate matter, so long as any outside interference, in any form, has clear financial interests.
            Israel, this is somewhat different, because it is not so easy to find such an obvious financial interest there. Not enough real events, facts. It is also not clear to me from the experts who are being listened to, nothing concrete has been said. Time will tell.
          2. +2
            23 November 2018 11: 39
            "Project Israel is closing ..." ////
            -----
            You, alas, have the usual illusions of ordinary ordinary anti-Semite. negative
            I wish the project Russia long health and economic success!
            1. +4
              23 November 2018 11: 45
              Antisimitism and Zionism is for antisimitism and Zionists. It is necessary to rise one notch above the problem and yesterday we discussed this topic. And by the way, I also wish prosperity to the simple Jewish people. Deal with the elite - it betrays the interests of the simple isriltyanina.
              1. +2
                23 November 2018 11: 51
                I do not see, according to your posts, that you are a notch higher than dozens of others in this forum.
                You cover esotericism with very cheap and mass media stereotypes negative
                1. +2
                  23 November 2018 11: 59
                  Yes, what isoteric there, I ask only to reflect on the aspirations of ordinary Israeli citizens. Do they need war, aggravation, anxiety air defense? If the army is good and strong, this does not give the right to manage with hutspoy and rush with fighters. Need a war-rush.
                  1. +2
                    23 November 2018 12: 05
                    Come to visit Israel. You see. Ordinary citizens live very relaxed, beaches and restaurants are crowded. They smile and laugh a lot.
                    We learned how to strain and mobilize in times of danger, and the rest of the time - 90% - to live for our own pleasure. Tourists from Russia say that in Israel they felt more relaxed and safer than on the streets of their cities.
                    1. +1
                      23 November 2018 12: 09
                      I’ll definitely visit, but only so that everything will be calm on my arrival. Without provocation on both sides. And do not forget Netanyahu to convey my words about the world!
                    2. +4
                      23 November 2018 12: 25
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Tourists from Russia say that in Israel they felt more relaxed and safer than on the streets of their cities.

                      That they wanted to please you laughing
                      I must say that rusty pipes do not fly above our heads.
                      1. 0
                        23 November 2018 13: 41
                        I did not pull their tongue. Later, my friends wrote this to me in e-mails.
                      2. 0
                        25 November 2018 01: 19
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        I did not pull their tongue. Later, my friends wrote this to me in e-mails.

                        ... and they also told you what Father Barlaam was talking about with the imposter Grishka on the Lithuanian border ... laughing
              2. 0
                23 November 2018 20: 25
                this is the prose of life, the state and the people are, by definition, different things, the state does not act in the interests of the people, I don’t see the point to open the topic, because whoever understands it agrees.
            2. +3
              23 November 2018 12: 01
              "Project Israel is closing ..." ////
              Your elites simply haven’t announced to you until ...
              They then dump in advance.
              1. +5
                23 November 2018 12: 09
                Our elites have children in special forces and parachute brigades. When the trouble begins, they urgently return from abroad and volunteer for military operations.
                See, again you think cheap stereotypes ... ashamed.
                1. +2
                  23 November 2018 12: 19
                  The vicious circle is a circular reference. Who then gives orders to Tsakhal on provocations? Who arranges a creeping occupation. Occupies other people's house-parachutists?
                  Is there a conscience? Will there be a conscience?
                  1. 0
                    23 November 2018 19: 06
                    Quote: Tank jacket
                    The vicious circle is a circular reference. Who then gives orders to Tsakhal on provocations?
                    Here, before the operation, he flew in Gaza, Qatar betrayed the money to Gaza, so they fought among themselves, and the Minister of Defense resigned. At what the money was supposed to be passed by the dagger. ahhaha scream ..... wassat hi
                    Now they will fight for the Saudis from the United States, trump intermediaries are not needed, business and nothing personal .... Yes
                    US President Donald Trump constantly refers to the interests of Israel. “Without Saudi Arabia, Israel would be in great trouble”Trump said at a news conference on Thursday.
                    “So what does it mean - Israel must leave? Do you want Israel to leave? ” - the president of the United States turned to reporters, hinting that the Jewish state owes to the Saudi monarchy almost by its very existence. Http: //news.israelinfo.co.il/world/76009
                  2. 0
                    23 November 2018 20: 29
                    would you have looked at a comrade from (v) V.S. Vysotsky laughing
                2. 0
                  23 November 2018 18: 31
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Our elites have children in special forces and parachute brigades.

                  Is this for sure or a beautiful slogan for goyim?
                  Who and where and how much does this repay to Israel?
                  I’ve read that Bibi’s son created a group on the Internet to deal with bad comments about Israel, is this also special forces?
                  You’re lying all of Aleksey, there are some of them there and they’re sitting in warm trenches, but if not, the list of your special patriots ..... hi
                  1. +2
                    23 November 2018 20: 46
                    The children of the Prime Minister are not entitled to serve in the military. As for the children of other elites, I will say more - for the child to be admitted to the practical test exam of selection in one or another special forces, parents use their connections in the military top. But, if the child does not pass, as a rule, nothing helps, because it is dangerous both for the soldier himself and for the unit as a whole.
                    1. 0
                      23 November 2018 21: 07
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      As for the children of other elites, I will say more - for the child to be admitted to the practical test exam of selection in one or another special forces, parents use their connections in the military top. But, if the child does not pass, as a rule, nothing helps, because it is dangerous both for the soldier himself and for the unit as a whole.

                      But such a child needs an army, a big question! What does she give him, if he has everything, education, money, connections, a house abroad, daddy. You know all this, as I see, and you don’t have a list either, I understand that such things don’t tell ordinary goyim .... Yes
                      1. +1
                        23 November 2018 21: 48
                        laughing ... a list of Israeli elite children serving in special forces?
                        The most famous are the children of Ariel Sharon (before he became prime minister) served in the special forces of the Air Force (in-depth reconnaissance and target designation). They are known for the fact that one of them went to jail for daddy's fraud with receiving money for allegedly consulting)) The list will be in thousands of names, so it’s impossible to list it here.
                        Now I’ll say why they need it - the best club in Israel is the army. If I have the same grades with you in, say, Cambridge, and we have equally passed the tests and checks for admission to some Israeli company, your army service will be the acceptance criterion. That is, if I served as a motorized infantry, let’s say, and you are in the special forces of the same brigade, they will take you as a person more responsible, executive and stress-resistant. And yet - army friends - they are usually for life. Therefore, it is better to put the kid where children of influential people serve. In addition, the mentality is that Israeli oligarchs have been working with children since the age of 14 in all kinds of McDonald's so that they know why to study, what money costs, etc. Accordingly - the army is the same insurance policy of a child for independent life - dad can go broke, and his son will not depend on his material well-being.
                        Total:
                        Mentality is another
                        Realities - Other
                        Parenting is another.
                        This is how to explain to an Israeli why a person earning 200 thousand ₽ per month (about 12 thousand shekels), Mercedes on credit, Italian furniture and European-quality repair in the house)).
                        Will not work.
                      2. 0
                        23 November 2018 22: 17
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        The most famous are the children of Ariel Sharon (before he became prime minister) served in the special forces of the Air Force (in-depth reconnaissance and target designation). The list will be in the tens of thousands of names, so it’s impossible to list it here.
                        Here I am about the same thing; you do not know the list and you cannot know. Such information will be limited in access, all the more the dodged personal data does not disclose. So it may be that they serve, but on paper, while the states themselves are upholstering the thresholds of clubs .... fellow
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Now I’ll say why they need it - the best club in Israel is the army. If I have the same marks with you in, say, Cambridge and we have equally passed the tests and checks for admission to some Israeli company to work - your army service will be the acceptance criterion.
                        It may be so in Israel, but not in other countries. They have money and connections; outside Israel, they can train the best military. They will compose such a portfolio that they will crawl into the power of Israel and will sit there without any army, and money and power will solve other issues ...
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        This is how to explain to an Israeli why a person earning 200 thousand a month, Mercedes on credit, Italian furniture and renovation in the house)).
                        Will not work.

                        What exactly will not work? Jews do not live on credit or do not make euro repairs? what
                      3. +2
                        23 November 2018 22: 36
                        1. You forget that Israel is a very small country. Personally, I know:
                        a) Some fellow soldiers of special forces.
                        b) Where do the children of my rich acquaintances of Israel serve (topic number one, by the way - where does the child serve and where then studies).
                        c) Where did these rich Israelites serve
                        d) Who are their parents
                        2. Once again - Israel is a small country. If you said that you served, say - in the marine special forces company (Saeret Givati) of the call of March 1995 and became a well-known public figure, you will be quickly taken out by people serving in this unit, and political rivals and the zhurnalyugi paid by them will inflate a big scandal laughing
                        3. Jews live on credit, even as, but. If you get 200 thousand rubles a month (even 400) - you won’t take any geldings, you will take Mazda 3, repairs and furnishings will not be luxurious, you will wear average clothes, not Italy. The mentality is different. Priorities are different. Lots of children, trips abroad, etc.
                      4. 0
                        23 November 2018 22: 51
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        You forget that Israel is a very small country.

                        Well, nafig, I live in a city where the population is slightly smaller than the population of Israel and they don’t know what is happening on the top, and then every Jew knows, he’s lying. lol And the Jews say little about the family, they don’t even tell everyone about their family, didn’t notice to brag, the Jews did. No, they say it, but you have to ask for a long time, just like during interrogation .. The conversation is conducted according to the formula you tell me, I tell you ..... laughing
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Jews live on credit, even as, but. If you get 200 thousand rubles a month, you won’t take any geldings, you will take a Mazda 3, repairs and furnishings will not be luxurious, you will wear average clothes, not Italy. The mentality is different. Priorities are different.
                        Yes, so now half the world lives, if not all, but in terms of mentality, rich Jews do not stand out much, I agree ....
                      5. +2
                        23 November 2018 23: 06
                        You compare the gap between the powerful and the rich with the people in Russia and the large village of Israel with a lack of class laughing With good friends, the Jews are just talking about the family, but about business and affairs to a lesser extent - just here - you tell me - I tell you)). The mentality is different. The highest value of Israelis is absolutely successful children:
                        1) WHERE YOU SERVED
                        2) Where the child entered, where he studied.
                        3) Where does he work, what does he do.
                        This, in principle, is the main topic of conversation among adults)).
                        The perception of power is in Israel: the Prime Minister and ministers are considered to be radishes that live on my money (taxes) and I MUST ensure a good standard of living for this, as I (the people) delegated authority to them in matters that I do not want / cannot deal with. Therefore, attention to them is different and the demand is corresponding. hi It’s different here.
                      6. 0
                        23 November 2018 23: 18
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        This, in principle, is the main topic of conversation among adults)).

                        Yes, age probably matters .... Yes hi
                      7. +1
                        23 November 2018 23: 40
                        But people after 20 only talk about the army and tremble. Who - where - how he served. Therefore, I write - the more elite the part - the more elite the social section of this unit. I remember they sent us to the checkpoint to reinforce cadets from the N-th unit. They stand in pillars, all the attention on passing cars. I decided to talk with one of them - it’s boring.
                        - What kind of music do you listen to, bro?
                        - Different, mostly drunk and cello.
                        After that, I did not know how to continue the conversation. laughing
      2. +2
        23 November 2018 11: 22
        Rather, you can reconcile the Turks with the Greeks and Armenians than the Shiites with the Sunnis.
  4. +1
    23 November 2018 10: 15
    Yes, all the goyim are bastards! The Syrians have generally come up with some kind of state border, is it now that a faithful Jew can’t fly a bomb to bomb, slightly dispel?
  5. +3
    23 November 2018 10: 16
    Israel urgently needs a plane to attack from around the corner.
    Preferably disguised as a civilian liner.
    1. +1
      23 November 2018 10: 25
      "plane for attacks from around the corner." ////
      -----
      From around the corner, in mid-air, these are attacks from a long distance.
      We have all the planes like that. They can precisely hit a ground target from 100-150 km.
      1. +5
        23 November 2018 10: 35
        Alexey Hello.
        Please explain why Israel refuel tankers?
        1. 0
          23 November 2018 10: 44
          If you look at a map of North Africa, the Near and Middle East - from Morocco to Pakistan - you will see how long the distances are. These are our POTENTIAL adversaries.
          Let me explain: Pakistan is not our enemy, but the probability of the victory of the Islamists there is quite high.
          The same is Algeria, for example. In connection with the foregoing, our Air Force must ensure air supremacy throughout this space. And without a few hundred super-modern aircraft of the 4th + and 5th generation can not do here. And without a fleet of tankers, of course.
          1. -1
            23 November 2018 13: 01
            Quote: voyaka uh
            In connection with the foregoing, our Air Force must ensure air supremacy throughout this space.

            Dominance ... who dreamed of dominance, usually ended the same way.
            1. +3
              23 November 2018 13: 43
              If you do not understand the purely military term "air supremacy", then what are you doing in the Military Review "? laughing
              1. 0
                25 November 2018 01: 17
                You are at war, you cannot calm down in any way. laughing
          2. 0
            23 November 2018 17: 25
            Quote: voyaka uh
            If you look at a map of North Africa, the Near and Middle East - from Morocco to Pakistan ........-

            Well thanks Alex for the answer. Reassured. And then, I suddenly became worried that Israel needed them for exercises in conjunction with NATO at our borders. lol
            1. 0
              23 November 2018 20: 36
              persecutory delusions of persecution (paranoia) laughing
        2. BAI
          +4
          23 November 2018 11: 00
          Why are Israel tankers refueling?

          And how else to carry out operations, such as the operation "Entebbe" July 4, 1976.? Obviously, such a threat arose, and that is why one must prepare in advance. Mossad is not in vain eating his matzo. One of the best special services in the world.
      2. 0
        23 November 2018 12: 58
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "plane for attacks from around the corner." ////
        -----
        From around the corner, in mid-air, these are attacks from a long distance.
        We have all the planes like that. They can precisely hit a ground target from 100-150 km.

        Already not enough.
        1. 0
          23 November 2018 13: 03
          Just right. good Small obstacles, false targets, plus hills, mountains are set ...
    2. -1
      23 November 2018 10: 32
      Quote: Mestny
      Israel urgently needs a plane to attack from around the corner.
      Preferably disguised as a civilian liner.

      Than rich.
  6. +7
    23 November 2018 10: 22
    Israel buys planes and helicopters from the United States for a long time, but where does it
    Vladimir Putin’s interests limit IDF’s capabilities
    unclear. Yes, you are not planning to meet with Netanyahu, and does this somehow limit the actions of the IDF? In Syria, it has long been necessary to cut off the oxygen of Israeli aviation, which, under the slogan of fighting Iran and the terrorists, is crushing those who are really fighting terrorism.
    1. +2
      23 November 2018 10: 30
      Yes, doesn’t plan a meeting with Netanyahu and does it somehow limit the IDF’s actions?
      apparently hints that the previous activity was sanctioned by Putin .. well, actually it is indirectly, Netanyahu used to fly to Moscow to coordinate actions, only now he has crossed the limits of what is permitted and is now limited
      1. +3
        23 November 2018 11: 59
        The Israeli newspaper "Haaretz" ("Haaretz") published an analytical article by Amos Arel about the interests of Vladimir Putin in Syria and Lebanon.

        The Russian president said that in the near future he no longer plans to meet with Netanyahu.

        But really this "Haaretz" found out from himself?
        We are not aware of these interests.
        We didn’t have enough strength to get to Syria,
        And we all found out about him because there is ISIS.
        For complete happiness, we need to kick the sofa in our hearts
        And go find out what breathes, how Lebanon lives now.
        All these matters are again hiding our power
        Interest, so as not to get to the cemetery ahead of time.
        Fascinating news (author - a crutch to your side),
        What does Israel buy from the Americans?
        President’s interests - year after year stretches.
        Interests will subside soon, but what remains?
    2. 0
      24 November 2018 11: 45
      Quote: rotmistr60
      unclear. Yes, you are not planning to meet with Netanyahu, and does this somehow limit the actions of the IDF? In Syria, it has long been necessary to cut off the oxygen of Israeli aviation, which, under the slogan of fighting Iran and the terrorists, is crushing those who are really fighting terrorism.


      Shiite terrorists are not much different from Sunni. Why are terrorists? Well, because tens of countries recognize them as such. The Assad regime for many years quite officially supported Sunni terrorists from Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and so on.

      So who is really fighting there?
  7. 0
    23 November 2018 10: 26
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Do banking, accountants, comrades!
    Where do you go, besiege!

    We are sitting quietly feel . But the Arabs slander request , and you believe them and swear.

    According to Arab media reports, on the afternoon of November 22, “unidentified aircraft” bombed a pro-Iranian militia base in Mukhsan, Deir ez-Zur province. As a result of the bombing, 20 fighters of pro-Iranian formations were killed. Also bombed Shiite camps near the Syrian Air Force base in Deir ez-Zur. Arab media attributes the attack to Israel.
    1. +1
      23 November 2018 10: 31
      Is it hutspa again or is it really quiet?
      1. +3
        23 November 2018 10: 32
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Is it hutspa again or is it really quiet?

        Sitting quietly hi .
        1. +7
          23 November 2018 10: 36
          I confirm. I’m sitting on the couch, I’m not touching anyone, I’m fixing the Primus. fellow
          1. +4
            23 November 2018 10: 54
            Get already so many dollars from America and spend it on weapons .. it's sad to see. For this money, you can wash the new Promised Continent in the ocean.
            1. +3
              23 November 2018 11: 10
              We spend a lot on weapons, but less than on education. The budget of the Ministry of Education is less than the budget of the Ministry of Education.
              So - do not look at us so sadly. GDP is growing steadily at 4% per year, birth rate 3.1
              Foreign investment in industry and science - steep billions - is growing every year. You can live ... fellow
              1. +1
                24 November 2018 09: 11
                GDP is growing by 4%, but considering that you receive the same $ 3,8 billion annually for defense from the United States (and the indicator will be exceeded with the specified contract), the similarity in the face value of both figures seems to hint at the expense of whom the whole banquet is. This help is cunningly not taken into account in economic indicators, well, in the end, recognize the obvious math. As for the rest of the macroeconomic, yes, you can live, and I am sincerely happy for yours and ours.
                1. 0
                  24 November 2018 12: 38
                  Israel's GDP was more than 2017 billion dollars in 350. Add 4% percent how much this year. And US aid is 3.8 billion. Compare the numbers. smile
                  1. +1
                    24 November 2018 13: 53
                    I gave it. Trying to deceive a Jew for money is an occupation from the category of masochism ...)))
                    But you won’t argue that American aid in Israel’s "honest" military budget has approached 20%? 3,8 billion, no need to be modest, these are ten military budgets, for example, Latvia or Zimbabwe.
          2. +2
            23 November 2018 13: 02
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I confirm. I’m sitting on the couch, I’m not touching anyone, I’m fixing the Primus. fellow

            Primus What about gas and electricity?
            1. +1
              23 November 2018 15: 09
              Read Bulgakov in your free "from Israel" time.
              There was one cute cat wink
              1. 0
                25 November 2018 01: 15
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Read Bulgakov in your free "from Israel" time.
                There was one cute cat wink

                Your Israel was given to me like a hedgehog t-shirt) wassat
    2. +1
      23 November 2018 10: 39
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Do banking, accountants, comrades!
      Where do you go, besiege!

      Are Jews capable of more? And which of the warriors are known to all. wink
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Arab media attribute attack to Israel.

      Not true. Everyone knows that after the Jews shot down Russian IL and the GDP set Syria's X-NUMX, flights over Syria stopped.
      1. +8
        23 November 2018 11: 20
        Quote: professor
        Not true. Everyone knows that after the Jews shot down Russian IL and the GDP set Syria's X-NUMX, flights over Syria stopped.

        In what rings Prof began to throw out! Humble like a dove and sly like a serpent!
        From asp! wassat

        In the video, the weeping wall in Jerusalem
  8. +2
    23 November 2018 11: 52
    The article is about Israel’s defense spending, and the headline is about Putin. I did not understand what I had restricted to whom. Sent Benny away - right. And then it turns out what and from whom Israel will buy.
  9. -1
    23 November 2018 13: 00
    To chto tvoritsya mejdu Izraelem i Arabami -eto put k budushemu. To est eshyo 14 vek tomu nazad posledniy Prorok Vsevishnogo ALLAHA Muhammad / SAV / skazal ;; pered sudnim dnyom budet bolshaya voyna mejdu "musulmanami i evreyami". I togda musulmami perebyut vsex evreev na zemle. K tomu vremeni vsya chelovechestva, daje zemlya i nebo ustanet ot evreev. I sam ALLAH dast dobro dlya unichtojeniya etogo naroda. Kones sitati. To chto ya napisal -eto istina v Islame. Ni kogo ne xochu zadet ili obidit. No esli komu nibud ne ponravilsya, to on mojet sprosit u samoga ALLAHA v sudniy den. Tem bole kajdiy chelovek stanet pered ALLAHom, lisom k lisu, chtobi otvetit za svoi deyanie i za svoi slova. Tak chto prejde chem pisat chto-to, zadumaytes xoroshenko. A chtobi ponimat vsyo eto ne nujno mnogo uma ili razuma, nujna tolko vera.
    1. +4
      23 November 2018 13: 10
      Use translit.ru
      It is very convenient.
      Allah Almighty is great, who argues?
      1. 0
        23 November 2018 17: 13
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Allah Almighty is great, who argues?

        That is, do you agree with what is written?
        1. +1
          23 November 2018 19: 45
          I just reminded the author of the post that Allah (among Muslims), Almighty (among Jews) and God the Father (among Christians) are one and the same character. And he is great, of course.
          The rest is the author’s thoughts. Apocalyptic visions overtake periodically representatives of different religions. In the city of Jerusalem, several people fall into psychiatric hospitals a year: either Jews, then Christians, or Muslims (from Israel, tourists or pilgrims), who claim to be prophets and savior and warn of the imminent End of the World. They are given sedatives and released (sometimes deported quietly).
    2. 0
      23 November 2018 16: 28
      Quote: xayot1966
      To chto tvoritsya mejdu Izraelem i Arabami -eto put k budushemu. To est eshyo 14 vek tomu nazad posledniy Prorok Vsevishnogo ALLAHA Muhammad / SAV / skazal ;; pered sudnim dnyom budet bolshaya voyna mejdu "musulmanami i evreyami". I togda musulmami perebyut vsex evreev na zemle. K tomu vremeni vsya chelovechestva, daje zemlya i nebo ustanet ot evreev. I sam ALLAH dast dobro dlya unichtojeniya etogo naroda. Kones sitati. To chto ya napisal -eto istina v Islame. Ni kogo ne xochu zadet ili obidit. No esli komu nibud ne ponravilsya, to on mojet sprosit u samoga ALLAHA v sudniy den. Tem bole kajdiy chelovek stanet pered ALLAHom, lisom k lisu, chtobi otvetit za svoi deyanie i za svoi slova. Tak chto prejde chem pisat chto-to, zadumaytes xoroshenko. A chtobi ponimat vsyo eto ne nujno mnogo uma ili razuma, nujna tolko vera.

      My translation into Russian.
      What is happening between Israel and the Arabs is the path to the future.
      Even 14 centuries ago, the Most High Last Prophet of Allah Muhammad / S. A. V / said ;; before the Day of Judgment there will be a big war between "Muslims and Jews". And then the Muslims will kill all the Jews on earth. By that time, all people, even earth and heaven, will get tired of the Jews. And Allah himself will give the go-ahead for the destruction of this people. End of quote.
      What I wrote is the truth in Islam.
      I didn’t want to offend or offend anyone. No, if someone didn’t like it, then he can ask Allah himself on the day of judgment. Moreover, each person will face Allah to answer for his affairs and for his words.
      So before you write something, think carefully. And to understand all this, you don’t need a lot of mind or reason, you only need faith.
    3. +1
      23 November 2018 18: 09
      Quote: xayot1966
      A chtobi ponimat vsyo eto ne nujno mnogo uma or razuma, nujna tolko vera.

      As for the mind in Islam, it is correctly written, it is noticeable throughout the world. However, our sages believe that it is not possible to comprehend the Almighty exclusively with the heart, without reason. A man devoid of reason, deprived of the ability to comprehend with his heart.
  10. 0
    23 November 2018 15: 20
    Something will be. And very bad ..
  11. +2
    23 November 2018 15: 40
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Well, you yourself have predicted the alignment ... And the Egyptian priests will help.
    Apparently the Scientologists are crowning instead ...


    You write some really terrible things, from the first instructors to run, to train the destruction of the state, offering in return to study the geography and cartography of neighboring countries for a safe departure from the attacked country.
    And do you propose to hide the process and the corresponding directives under sectarians and religious zealots?
    Are you an extremist by any chance?
    1. +1
      23 November 2018 19: 56
      He sincerely believes that a secret organization founded by the ancient Egyptian priests about 1400 years before the birth of Christ rules the world. And clarifies the plans of this terrible organization for those who are not up to date.
      1. +1
        24 November 2018 11: 21
        And he believes in Sinai camping for 40 years. There a week go wink
        1. 0
          24 November 2018 12: 43
          A week for a trained army. And for a crowd with women and children without weapons - 40 years and bypass.
          Jericho, captured first, is located east of Judea, and Sinai is south of it.
          1. 0
            24 November 2018 13: 12
            40 years is 2 generations minimum. It is necessary to measure in people. Let us call it this way: a camping trip, a march to prepare financial special forces. And then the Roman Holocaust for the resettlement of Fin. special forces on the planet and rallying.
            1. 0
              24 November 2018 13: 14
              Clinical case, sorry. How to argue with adherents of "flat earth" ...
              Further without me. stop
    2. 0
      24 November 2018 11: 22
      Lieberman engaged in extremism for this and took off
  12. +2
    23 November 2018 19: 01
    Haaretz: Interests of Vladimir Putin limit the capabilities of the IDF
    The bastards are hiding, they themselves don’t know who is bothering them, local goys or Israel itself ....

    Hamas’s military wing on Thursday released its materials on the secret military operation of Israeli special forces in the Gaza Strip. Military censorship immediately banned the Israeli media from publishing them.
    “At the moment, there is a complete ban on the publication of any materials related to the operation, including photos and videos, including those published in foreign media and social networks”- war censorship warned. Http://news.israelinfo.co.il/law/76005
    1. 0
      24 November 2018 23: 08
      Plus, to you, and what you wrote is the miracles of shit democracy and freedom of the anus to pour out, everything that gives a plus to business and government, but it’s impossible to tell the truth, it’s not shitty) There is no freedom of speech, but you hang out, most importantly, do not think with your head
  13. 0
    24 November 2018 12: 45
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Yes Yes! Right now in the history section there are interesting facts about "lease" - lend-lease.
    Just for you. good

    ... you don’t know, the USSR-Russia sho paid for it on the spot. The issue has been settled ... you are our equalizer ...
  14. 0
    24 November 2018 14: 57
    At the moment, the Israeli Air Force received X-NUMX fighter F-12I Adir, assembled by Lockheed Martin. It is expected that by the year 35 the number of fifth generation fighters of the same model in service with Israel will reach 2024 units.

    Great goals will be ..! Our task is to provoke them to take off all together ... And then dunk! (For ours ..) soldier
    And then we'll figure it out 14 for 12 .. Am I right Israel? bully
  15. 0
    24 November 2018 23: 01
    The Israelis, like the Khokhlov, where you do not spit, are everywhere guards, some have "connebronitank submarines", others have "Islamic" ones, and what is most interesting is that some, that the second, constantly kill these troops by the millions, but cannot kill them. And judging by the publications, there, that Iran, that Russia, will soon come to the second round in terms of population. Our neighbors, in general, are already at war in "back to the future", they have destroyed so many armatures and su 57s that the guys at Uvz and Sukhoi must be given orders for overfulfilling the five-year plans, in three months wassat
  16. 0
    24 November 2018 23: 20
    Also, the company Boeing offers Israel to purchase tankers KC-46, created on the basis of civilian Boeing 767. The KS-46 accommodates 207 000 pounds of fuel with a maximum range of almost 12 000 km and can refuel more than 64 aircraft.
    I have no doubt that Israel can take this - the United States will pay all this anyway from its budget, but where are the Jews going to fight on this? Muzzle will not crack? smile
  17. 0
    25 November 2018 11: 56
    Russia greatly confused the cards not only to Israel, literally all the neighbors dreamed of grabbing something from Syria that was melting under the onslaught of the Islamic State. The same Turkey dreamed of its tidbit, and of course Israel had big plans here. And here you are, some who had to come to terms and become a friend of Russia, and some who are sitting and waiting, what will happen next. Alas, but now the freemen for Israel is over and will have to live differently.

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