New general field uniform

You will see a new combined field uniform. It was not an official show, so I had to photograph in several adverse conditions.

At the moment, the form is being tested in units of motorized rifle troops, marines and special forces of several districts. According to its results some changes are possible.

Suit summer field. Consists of 65% cotton and 35% polyester.
White threads with seals, which are visible in almost all photos, from the inventory tags.
Jacket (with buttoned collar)

Pants

Insulated jacket (3-4 layer). Composition: 100% PA with PTFE membrane

Jacket windbreaker (4 layer). Composition: 98% PA, 2% elastane

Suit Soft Shell (5 layer). Composition: 99% PA, 1% elastane
Jacket with a collapsed hood

Pants to suit

Windproof suit (6 layer). Composition: 100% PA with PTFE bicomponent membrane
Jacket

Amplifier back inserts on the forearm

Pants with reinforcement in the knees

Insulated suit (7 layer). Composition: 100% PA. Thinsulate is used as heat insulation material.
Jacket

Trousers. Kneeling reinforcement inserts

Caps are offered in two types.
a) Cap to summer field suit. Composition: 65% cotton, 35% PE

b) Cap. I understand that she goes to the windbreak suit. Composition: 99% PA, 1% elastane

In the field on the head, it will be possible to wear a hat, which when unfolded is a mask.
Balaclava. Ingredients: 70% wool, 30% PA

It has not yet been decided what will be used as a winter headdress. In the photo one of the possible options

Special valves in the area of ​​the ears with velcro, are designed for greater convenience when using a radio headset

Finally, shapeless three-fingered gloves disappear into the past and five-fingered appear to replace them. The top is made of cotton-polyester fabric with a water-repellent finish, there is a split leather on the palms of the leather, insulation is a synthetic volume canvas
Photos are not made by me

The linen consists of several layers.
1 layer - underwear lightweight quick-drying underwear. Composition: 100% PE

2 layer - fleece underwear quick-drying. Composition: 93% PE, 7% elastane

3 layer - fleece jacket. Composition: 100% PE

There are two types of socks.
The first - summer socks. Ingredients: 50% wool, 45% PA, 5% elastane

The second - winter socks. Ingredients: 64% wool, 36% PA

Let's go to the shoes.
Summer boots. Composition: 100% PA (Cordura) and polyurethane coated split - top, backing lining material with PTFE membrane, rubber outsole

Winter boots

Such warm boots can replace traditional boots (one of the possible variants in the photo)

insulation

Belts with a badge, apparently, will be issued to the soldiers until their stocks in the warehouses run out. And so the main should be a belt with a buckle, which everyone in the army calls the shoulder strap.
To replace the duffle bag should come bundle, but the approved version yet. For the special forces, it has already been developed, it will be possible to see its and the field form of the KSOR and special forces in my subsequent entries.

Instructions for use
The public procurement website published a quiet and inconspicuous tender for the purchase of 8 thousands of sets of field uniforms. New field form. Since last year, she has been in trial operation in the army. The form took into account the comments to the old "figure": thermal underwear and layering at last appeared, depending on the season.

I got the instructions that came with the form

Comments

[Dust]

You should feel it all with your hands, it’s even better to put it on yourself, but wear it a little, but outwardly it looks more like clothes for a fairly advanced tourist in the military style than a uniform of a military man ...

[Joker]

It seems to me that it should be so that convenience comes first, and not a strict military style. The form looks good, the main thing is that they all give out, and not just a field vole. Some kind of mythical boots, I have never even seen such ones, everyone in berets wore as before and it seems that the collar is not quite at all on the uniform, but like on the old uniform, although I like this better, it’s more convenient to wear a bulletproof vest. I hope they will do several sizes, and not as before, very large and very small it seems that in 2013 all the equipment will be finally formed, again it seems that reddish spots have been added in a new form.

[leon-iv]

Some kind of mythical boots, I have never even seen such ones
Faraday firm sews VERY good quality
http://www.faradei.ru/catalog/82/

[Joker]

5??? in my opinion it’s a little expensive, although if you mass purchase and develop production, you can bring down the price times in 2. Once again, they will find their niche in the civilian market.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

It's still cheap. I took mine for 13 pieces and the German unloading of 30000 thousand left

[Joker]

Yes, I'm not surprised that the price of the shoes is high, I bought a Belleville SABER 333 for myself, is it just the price that is high for the shoes of our production, or are they of such excellent quality?

[cth; fyn]

Faraday has 5+ quality

[Captain45]

Alexey, have you tried to look into the Pokrov firm? In 2008 I was on a business trip in Krasnoyarsk and in this company I took winter "boots" made in Belarus and the price was 3000 rubles. acceptable. I've been in them for the fourth winter, it's normal, of course at -45 in one place you won't stand for a long time, but when you move, it's normal.

[cth; fyn]

AND! unloading 30 000 A! in my mouth legs! full n!

[leon-iv]

this is the usual price for good shoes
Wholesale all the more BIG wholesale price will be 1,5 times lower
Threat you apparently the wife / girlfriend does not say how much, for example, sandals are Carlo Pazolini))).

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

One hundred pounds my mother bought brand glasses for 17 thousand not long ago, I fought in hysteria

[cth; fyn]

OOOO I can imagine .... I can not.

[cth; fyn]

Yes, yes. on a civilian this will be bought.

[justas-xnumx]

Unfortunately, all these arts have to be bought for their hard-earned ones, because in warehouses there is no form and will not be (for contract service, i.e. double basses and officers), and you need to go to the service only in a new form otherwise, they will be fired

[cth; fyn]

Yes! quality class !, only conscripts do not have hehe.

[justas-xnumx]

I bought myself summer ones for hunting mushrooms in the hills - not bad, but the seams are rough, I have to wear two or three pairs of socks ("simple") differently - they rub my feet until I can't, I didn't have such problems in boots with footcloths, however, boots somewhat heavier. The uniform is the same as the current one, with a ... bish shoulder strap on the belly. I didn't have to wear such a "suit" myself and I'm not going to buy it, it's enough how all my friends haut it - it's not cold in summer, not hot in winter! The overcoat is the height of comfort and convenience in comparison with it.

[cth; fyn]

For the entire service I saw only summer pants, winter pants, a winter jacket and a tunic with a cap. A hat was given out with an earflap from blue cheburashka, in winter, tarpaulin boots with two footcloths, or if you go to work boots in boot covers from the OZK. boots are really old from the factory. Red Communard or the like.
The rest is visible to the foremen's mouth and the head of the warehouses sold to the left, and even the hell with him we did not wear such ugliness. A cap on hats, a little rack on a tunic and: He is handsome in the ranks, he is strong in battle.

[leon-iv]

Cut with amerskoy ACU stripped off.
And she is VERY comfortable form.

[Srgsoap]

Precisely ripped off, I have the ACU itself, really very convenient.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

This copy of the Amrov tactical uniform, did you compliment them? But just do it right that there’s no experience copied, we’ll deal with how to take and copy the USSR of the 30s, well, and later

[cth; fyn]

Amers, Britons, Germans, French do not have a really convenient form. the budget allows you to fork out and dress the soldier well.

[Viking]

But I generally liked it. The kit is very interesting. It can be seen that not a fig is not cheap, but this passion for saving where, well, you don’t always have to annoy. When you put a person in a tank worth several million dollars (or in a BMP cost a little cheaper), you want to give him a decent tank, modern overalls, preferring to use the stockpiles in stores almost from the World War II.
It’s the same here - in fact, the cost of the form (I want to note a good form) compared to the rest (fuel, purchase of weapons, construction of facilities) and so on, these are some percent of the total number of expenses. And everyone themselves understand and feel the effect of this.

[leon-iv]

35kr is a complete set

[Joker]

Well, it’s not expensive, the contractor’s monthly salary, they will be walking like people, conveniently and efficiently, even if I did everything under it, unloading, armor, helmets, knee pads and elbow pieces, gloves, backpacks. I watched a photo from last year’s exhibition, there VERY much of this was presented by various companies, but this does not go beyond the exhibition yet.

[justas-xnumx]

Not convenient and not beautiful, I see such people every day in the window! The salivary glands hurt spitting!

[cth; fyn]

Yes, it’s not cheap, however, it was possible to modernize the old one, it would have been cheaper and even more practical.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

A cowboy suit, as well as a complete set of modernization t 72 from this year, will be purchased later.

[Viking]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

A cowboy costume as well as a full set of modernization t 72 are purchased from this year

But this is already good that they began to think not only about technology, but also about those who are inside this technology.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

The most joyful thing is not a cowboy who has been massively buying for 6 months, but upgrading to a slingshot with nothing to do with truncation as it was in 2011, there was contact 5 and a completely complete stuffing !! They say Rogozin personally crushed Serdyukov and Makarov, who regretted the money for the relic, crushed.

[KGB161rus]

Then what kind of pixel flora is now in our sun, someone explain to me ?!

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

This ordinary everyday person uses it just like wearing ordinary clothes, but for lack of a vole they use it in the field, as a result of which a form that is not intended for this turns into something. Thank God that even tracksuits and a parade were introduced

[cth; fyn]

Well, the cowboy is essentially a bronick. jumpsuit made of fabric armor, body armor, helmet with headset.

[cth; fyn]

+!
faithful way you go comrades.

[radikdan79]

Dust,
the main thing is that the uniform is practical and convenient. and appearance is not the main thing.

[cth; fyn]

Quality is bad.

[Sakhalininsk]

The main thing is that the soldier should be comfortable in everyday life and in battle. If not, the penny is the price of all this advancement.

[Igor]

Well, finally, a normal form appeared. Jackets with locks, more or less normal ankle boots, although it would be better on these ankle boots, they would make a helium sole, not rubber, and they would change the earflaps for ordinary hats and would not force them to gird the jackets with a belt. so that these things go to the army and are made of quality material, and not "Made in China".

[Egor-dis]

The alternative to felt boots is useless. Too many seams, and insulation inserts, as a rule, are short-lived. They should be replaced hardly less than woolen socks. IMHO, in our winters it is necessary to beat the theme of boots.
And yet, since when has a foreign company supplied footwear for the army from the country of a potential enemy? Or is "GORE-TEX" (according to the label on the boots) a Russian company?

[Joker]

GORE-TEX is a material manufactured by WL Gore & Associates. So, as I understand it, ours is buying material, but they are doing it themselves.

[cth; fyn]

ABOUT! however w!

[Igor]

Quote: Egor-dis

in our winters we need to beat the theme of boots.

These boots should be bought for the army:

[Vanya Ivanov]

I think Baffin is an alternative to felt boots. Shoes are interesting, but as many seams have already been noticed. Ear-flaps are changed to something more convenient, also good. They are worn in winter because it is cold.
and yet, for the most part I observe the Marine Corps. own opinion ... the coloring should not be the same for everyone.
and .., the quality factor is very, very important. Without this, any good idea is zero.

[Igor]

Quote: Vanya Ivanov

. Belted in winter because it is cold.

And in the summer, because it's hot And maybe in order to cling to the belt ammunition, as there are practically no special vests in the army.

[Vanya Ivanov]

Igor, partly agree with you. I mentioned about girdling in winter with everyday wear. At the moment (where I’m not hot now) the kids are walking quite civilly. There is no belt on top. And you are right. There are not enough different kinds of vests and RPS.

[leon-iv]

shake the ground you will not find.

[cth; fyn]

Yes, yesterday’s schoolchildren, how surprised they are when they understand that the world is more interesting than they think.

[Captain45]

Quote: Vanya Ivanov

. Belted in winter because it is cold.

Or maybe it's easier, as we have on overalls, a "drawstring" is sewn along the bottom edge of the jacket, pulled up as much as necessary and an internal one on the belt. Nothing sticks out from the outside, it does not cling and you can fit to the figure.

Quote: Vanya Ivanov

coloring should not be the same for everyone.

In the 90s, when camouflage went en masse to the troops, I remember it had different colors; the marines had one, the border guards had a different one, the airborne troops and the configuration of the spots were also different. It seems the color tone was the same, but there were differences. "butane", a friend brought it, is still alive, although fishing, hunting, picnics, but some indelible fabric, faded already, but there are no holes.

[cth; fyn]

on the contrary, when you gird it, it blows out, you have to wrap the envelope and lower the belt onto the eggs, and for this you don’t iron on the head, and even with tilts you have to turn the envelope over.

[mind1954]

As far as I can remember, all the shoe specialists always always with one voice
said that at temperatures below minus 15, alternatives to felt boots
no ! If only high boots?

[cth; fyn]

Unts ?, mmmmmmmmmmm yes!

[Vitaliy_78]

Boots of strategic importance

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

In the first texter, tex have long been licensed to the Russian Federation. Secondly, Faraday is a Russian company as well as Group 99, which simply hired a team from the states and muddied a luxurious shamtya for the military.

[cth; fyn]

Faraday also makes boots with boots for firefighters, I have a couple, the thing is drop dead.

[atesterev]

I just wanted to say about the excess of seams on the shoe ... Competent trackers were always all-cut. And these shoes resemble a cheap show-off. In addition, how does GoreTex behave under tough conditions, like a puddle with oil and fuel oil? I think this is a very delicate material for ideal conditions.

[cth; fyn]

Boots in shoe covers from the OZK - Panacea!

[Nikolay Balabanov]

according to recent experience in military service, I can’t believe that such a uniform will get along in our army with its tailor-made regulations of the 30s, the rollback of sleeves, mass washing of natelka in bathhouses and wooden commanders)) although, apparently, this kit is designed for today's not-so-poor contract soldiers, from which you can shake some money for this form

[Vanya Ivanov]

I agree with you. There are a lot of things to change, and first of all in the minds. Yes, and it’s unpleasant if it really turns into ... at your own expense.

[schonia06rus]

winter gortex cost about 4000r. we bought such double basses for ourselves. fleece underwear costs about a thousand (we bought with their own money). I very much doubt that all this will reach the soldiers.
and that new Yudashkinsky is some kind of horror! they tried to get the old flora to whom they gave it to me, and I generally keep quiet about winter jackets.

[Young man]

no, of course she will come to the army, but that way by 2020 when it is hopelessly outdated. shoes, it seems to me, rubbish. I myself had to drive in similar ones, at the summer training camp, better ankle boots, although they are heavier, but you know that your legs will be dry, and they will look decent, and then you will wipe off these horseradish. locks are idiocy. breaks - you can fix it quickly, so buttons are the best option. my opinion is a cool form for tourism (I have already studied it myself), but for the army it is not finalized. did it on "get off"

[leon-iv]

and berets better than what?

[Igor]

Quote: Young man

No, of course she will join the army, but that way by 2020 when she is hopelessly out of date.

And how will it become obsolete? Will there be global cooling, warming, or maybe the army will go in nanosuits and exoskeletons?

Quote: Young man

better berets, although they are heavier, but you know that your legs will be dry

Don’t you confuse berets with boots?

Quote: Young man

and then you’ll rub off the horseradish.

With a brush, you don’t even need a cream.

Quote: Young man

castles - idiocy. breaks - you can fix it

It is normal to wear it. On a citizen, all jackets with locks are made and for some reason no one complains.

[schonia06rus]

Quote: Igorek

And how does it become obsolete?

Yes, so our double basses bought themselves German membrane suits, often second-hand 91-92g release!

Quote: Igorek

Don’t you confuse berets with boots?

did you wear pieces of wood? for all their inhumanity, they have a tongue sewn with the berets themselves and they do not pass water.

Quote: Igorek

It is normal to wear it.

it is certainly good that such a high opinion of our soldiers, but here I personally broke an iron pickaxe!

[Igor]

Quote: schonia06rus

Yes, so our double basses bought themselves German membrane suits, often second-hand 91-92g release!

This is because the quality of our mold is complete g ......

Quote: schonia06rus

did you wear pieces of wood?

Wore.

Quote: schonia06rus

for all their inhumanity, they have a tongue sewn with the berets themselves and they do not pass water.

The manufacturer’s website says that these shoes do not let water through for 360 minutes.

Quote: schonia06rus

it is certainly good that such a high opinion of our soldiers, but here I personally broke an iron pickaxe!

If you try, you can break a dumbbell.

[atesterev]

You know, military clothing and footwear is different in that you sometimes have to wear it very abnormally ... Do you want to list how?

[Mut Anthony]

I don’t understand how our servicemen agree to wear such a frank g ... and dishonor our army in uniform from p..dick yudashkin ?? !!
After all, popping on the description and photographs is some kind of complete Chinese r ... in which even students of the 3rd grade do not go. All these Loch’s jackets and caps like hell (b) id (b) ace can simply be burned, because they are just made from synthetics, and there’s nothing to say about replacing boots, in Russia there will never be a replacement, and there are some kind of darts. All this Lokhovskaya Chinese p..r..sha from Yudashkin will make the GOPOTU out of our great army!

[leon-iv]

forgot to write banduputin
and stools
By sabzh where did you see China?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

First wise guy is a copy of the form of the United States. Secondly, Yudashkin is not a fagot, he has a wife and children, and he served in the army, unlike you, and in the third, he only advocated a parade.

[Mut Anthony]

Alexey Prikazchikov: and in the army he served, unlike you

Why did you get this?

[Pimply]

http://www.ogoniok.com/5041/5/

“I met young Valya Yudashkin in 1980 in military unit 73535 in Zvenigorod. For four years I served there as deputy commander for educational work. Valya joined the unit as a private.

Yudashkin served in the cartographic division. "

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

And people like you immediately see

[Viking]

The whole world is wearing. And only we, as always, are better in footcloths and in budenovki, garbage that is not convenient, but it’s primordially ours, no one will dig under, that with someone. copied.

[Mut Anthony]

Viking, firstly, what for budenovki, secondly, you try without footcloths or socks in army boots, and if they are not comfortable with footcloths, then let them learn how to tie them, thirdly, we and especially our army should create uniforms for ourselves ourselves, because we live in our country, and not they, and therefore we know more about what and how to do, and we don’t need a parody of foreign goods, even if we go in our own way, we do the technology ourselves, and at the same time the best in the world , which means that we are doing well.

[Viking]

Quote: MutAntonio

thirdly, we and especially our army should create uniforms for ourselves,

That's right, even worse, but by yourself. Instead of looking like smart people at the world and taking the best samples from there, by the way already tested in various conditions and conflicts.

Quote: MutAntonio

we do the equipment ourselves, and at the same time the best in the world, which means that we do pretty well.

Logic is iron. BUT here in civilian life people prefer there to nature or where else to wear clothes from famous world (but foreign) brands. type 5.11; Alpha Industries; BLACKHAWK !; PROPPER. By the way, I myself do not avoid this. And if in VS there appears a form corresponding to the things produced by these firms, then I will only be glad. Since there is no hesitate to look around and take a new one.

[Mut Anthony]

Comrade Viking, do not compare civilian life and military life. We drive foreign cars rather than viburnum, this is understandable, but the state should feed the army, this is the main priority in supply. After all, America or Europe makes its products and supplies troops to its own. Our country has never in its history bought army equipment abroad. Moreover, do not compare the European army and ours, the exact opposite is here.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Amer use Belgian machine guns Italian and Austrian pistols, German tank guns, Chinese computers and lives normally. By the way, they make shoes from German components and do not live anything.

[Mut Anthony]

And the fact that they’re cooler is a complete show off

[Mut Anthony]

When was this our uniforms worse?

[Mut Anthony]

Vikings:

that’s not convenient,

the good old army short fur coats are inferior to this jacket only in weight, the weight of the short fur coats is large, but in boots, wadded pants, a woolen sweater, short fur coat and earflaps, you’ll walk to Verkhoyansk even if you’re on foot, they are durable and warm, and the quality of these jackets is doubtful , they and -20 are not the fact that they will withstand.

[Pimply]

Have you ever worn fleece? It is warmer and lighter than wool.

Have you tried to step in all this? Are you far away? It all weighs how much, and how inconvenient - to remind?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

And you don’t explain a damn thing to him like he needs a Lefthander to read without a trace, and in one story to teach how we, because of people like him, got into it ...

[Igor]

Quote: MutAntonio

I don’t understand how our servicemen agree to wear such a frank g ... and dishonor our army in uniform from p..dick yudashkin ?? !!

If in your opinion this is g.v.no, what do you think is beauty? Yes, and what nah ... Yudashkin, because the article says in black and white:

You will see a new combined field uniform. It was not an official show, so I had to photograph in several adverse conditions.

Quote: MutAntonio

in Russia they will never be replaced, but there are some kind of darts.

In Russia, in the warehouses of boots for 300 years in advance, the more the form has just begun to pass tests, it has not yet been adopted.

Quote: MutAntonio

All these Loch’s jackets and caps like hell (b) id (b) ace can simply be burned, because they are just from synthetics

Jackets "Alaska" also consist of synthetics, but for some reason they are warm.

[Pimply]

Do you know that Yudashkin did only a parade, and has nothing to do with the field form?

[Mut Anthony]

In the course, and in the May parade in honor of Victory Day 2011, she showed her insolvency, and I meant the concept of Yudashkin in a broader sense, I generalized.

[Pimply]

I'm not saying that the uniform from Yudashkin is good. She is bad. Unless the pilot’s motifs look good, the rest of the parade is horror. But the generalization was not too successful anyway, agree?

[Redpartyzan]

I looked at the form, read the comments and the form seems to be nothing, it looks modern and the comments seem sensible. In general, let's see. Until personally someone in it serves a year, we will not draw final conclusions.

[dred]

Really boots will change to modern shoes.

[tank64rus]

The epaulette will not be removed from the belly, the Yudashkin case lives and wins.

[leon-iv]

all over the world cheers comrades.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Lord, one more. In order to understand why the shoulder straps were shifted, look at modern means of wearing BC protection. And by the way, if so, then can we move on to the greatcoat or will we return the axel bands? Bring back the gymnasts yes, kirzachi?

[Viking]

And also from the sleeve. What when wearing field (assault) ammunition in the form of body armor, unloading, etc. All the same, it makes it possible to distinguish military personnel by rank.

[leon-iv]

By the way, I forgot to add on the belly not a pogo but a distinction sign.

[Pimply]

The insignia is usually a badge or patch. And this is a natural shoulder strap located on the chest. Traditional for shoulder strap form, by the way

[atesterev]

By the way, the warriors say that such a shoulder strap looks very interesting on a lady with an extensive bust ...

[cth; fyn]

Interesting to see

[Pimply]

Shoulder strap on a belly is not Yudashkin

[Ion coaelung]

CARPET IS IMPAIRABLE!

[cth; fyn]

Carpet???
And the carpet is gorgeous

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Tomorrow I will lay out my everyday uniform for special forces, emphasizing everyday rather than field. But just go the right way. The form that was used to be especially for finding in part this form for war, for the sporat appeared 3 suits and shoes. The parade began to be given out normally to the Focer rear esche and the office type of clothing. And not like before 1 set of clothes and wandering around the field and playing sports and fighting and everything else.

[Viking]

It seems, all the same, really the kit is tailored not to the concept of "conscript", but to the concept of "military man" - the skin includes officers and the so-called. "contract soldiers". Indeed, it is necessary to get away from the barracks-tailor army. To the army where the soldiers live in their quarters (or dormitories), where everyone has their own closet for storing property, there are normal showers, washing machines and in cases of a breakdown of uniforms, do not pore over it yourself with a needle and thread, but go to the nearest atelier what would have fixed it (for example, replaced the lightning and so on ...) All the same, the 21st century is in the yard.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I agree the current is not cheap, this kit costs 35 rubles. The uniform for everyday wear costs 000 rubles, the costly suits are 13 rubles, the parade is 000 rubles for a simple soldier, and the officer also has office clothes 28 rubles and the parade is many times more expensive.

[Viking]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

this kit costs 35 000 rubles

Well, that's about one salary for a non-commissioned soldier on a contract basis. Not so much. In fact, not so much, the more that only summer, as I understand it, goes on for a year, the winter period of socks has more. If the army needs a professional, not a "body", then this is not a big cost for equipment. On his education and training, where a lot of money goes.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I agree our army has entered the top five of the richest armies and everything can change, with respect.

[Captain45]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

our army entered the top five most wealthy armies

Alexei, maybe not wealthy, but expensive? Thanks to the fact that they steal a lot.

[Pimply]

To be honest, I don’t understand the need for everyday life. In FIG it is not needed. It is better that there are several sets of the usual field form.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

The spruce form for everyday wear is not good in it; you sweat it; dear; in general, why not.

[Oleg0705]

Quote: Viking

in cases of "breakage" of the uniform, do not pore over it yourself with a needle and thread, but go to the nearest atelier to fix it there (for example, replace the zipper and so on ...) All the same, the 21st century is in the yard.

And in the field - combat conditions where to look for an atelier? I think a soldier should be able to do everything himself. And footcloths are good in kirzachi, like a damper-filler, and anti-anatomic compensator. Considering the climatic conditions of the country, they cannot be removed from service, i.e. footcloths and boots

[kotdavin4i]

How many people - so many opinions ... Time will tell whether this form is really good ...

[Security2012]

The main thing is that it was warm in winter !!!!!

[atesterev]

And in the summer it’s cold;)

[Victor]

Whether the form is good or not in quality, tests will really show, but as for its functionality, we must frankly admit that here the amers have gone far ahead and there is nothing shameful if the best is taken. These kits (outwardly) seemed to me very much nothing like that. We have always dreamed about a lot of things in CA and RA, the developers took into account. I always remember with horror the time when it was necessary to work out combat missions in the field with fighters in the autumn-winter period. The main headache, where then warm up the soldiers and dry outfit. The question of the old substitution was an edge. Well, if the foremen of the batteries had a relationship with the clothing and in units remained decommissioned camouflage kit or cotton. Convenience and comfort help a lot when performing a combat mission. God grant that the form succeeds.

[Vanya Ivanov]

it’s unnecessary to wait for what the tests show. You need to try to do it well. It will always work out badly by itself. My opinion, the solution is an open competition of the manufacturer. Without nepotism and other family maklei.
but this is a question as they say the second.

[leon-iv]

where did you see nepotism?
And please bring 10 firms that are ready to carry out such an order.

[Vanya Ivanov]

why do we only have a couple of firms? why there aren’t 10 - 110? If you just find fault with the words, then you don’t need to. You can pick up a lot of epithets. They turned the garment factories for the sake of someone else ... created unbearable conditions in t .h. and MO tried. I know this from the Baltic Fleet in my small homeland.

[Joker]

Do you compare with the USA? Do not compare, the MO is buying armfuls of them from us, and here we have only gone orders, soon new enterprises will be modernized and new ones will open.

[leon-iv]

I love working with facts.
You speak
exit - open competition of the manufacturer
For this you need at least 3-4 firms.
Of those who are now able to provide such tailoring conditionally, the MTR and the Survival Corps, and then with such an interference.
MO puts forward the requirements the task of manufacturers to meet them.

[Vanya Ivanov]

Yes, you’re right. You’ll say. And I’ll assume that the companies you listed in order to fulfill such orders do not have their own capacities and will push the work to the contractors. A wonderful model - meeting the requirements of the customer, may well break up into Russian reality.
time will tell...

[Joker]

Where did they go? they are ahead in 2 of the year, they’ll easily catch up with them until they come up with anything extraordinary, all the same fireproof and breathable fabric, that's all. The rest is just special because prices are biting, and the fact that they buy specialists and ours can buy for themselves. So don't worry

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

By the way, yes, acupat marpat and its desert variant were adopted in 2005, they needed 4 years to remove the old uniform from the supply equipment in woodland and a free color still exists, the kit with which we licked this form appeared in 2008 they haven’t switched to it yet, the region has made its collection, which our current square meter licked not long ago in 2010, but since it’s expensive to carry current specialists in the states and that’s not all, ultramodern cartoons appeared in 2006 and only in 2011 it was decided to equip them limited contingent in avgani become, therefore do not know do not speak. in our country, in a couple of years, they have decided on a new form, give time, the industry will accelerate and everything will be fine.

[Viking]

Quote: Victor

I always remember with horror the time when it was necessary to work out combat missions in the field with fighters in the autumn-winter period.

And especially wooden commanders, as I remember now, wildly chased after "lice", that is, to put on a non-statutory sweater in winter under the uniform was considered almost a military crime. And the answer is iron - "not allowed"! Freezing - in underwear, a tunic and an overcoat at 30-35 degrees - is supposed to, to put on a sweater, which is clearly not visible in uniform (which, well, everyone in "civilian" wears) is a challenge to the entire army system.

[leon-iv]

xs I forced my authorized Champion League in the PPD to drop off and buy thermal underwear in the fields and wholesale.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

the sweaters are put into the everyday uniform of a soldier; they are camouflaged simply

but just do this link there photo as a casual form, a complete detailed set and deserted (not to be confused with the form of CRR) http://photo.qip.ru/users/wildtomcat/96318657/114718256/#mainImageLink

[Viking]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

the sweaters are put into the everyday uniform of a soldier; they are camouflaged simply

Well, I wrote about the "good" old days when I served in cotton, "kirzach" with footcloths and, accordingly, an overcoat. It is clear that since then the equipment of the army, at least in clothing, has gone far. And also about the inescapable (unfortunately) army stupidity of some of its representatives.

By the way, but it’s interesting, and now are the doorways still hemmed? And where else except Russia (and maybe a couple of CIS countries) is this practiced?

[Igor]

Quote: Viking

and now the gateways are still hemmed to the form? And where else except Russia (and maybe a couple of CIS countries) is this practiced?

In Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, hem, I know for sure. Yes, these collars tries ... are not needed.

[Suvorov000]

These gateways that you say are not needed, a hygiene product, how often you wash your uniform, ideally once a week, so during this time the collar becomes dirty, after which boils appear on the neck and this is accordingly a dignity. part

[leon-iv]

Have you tried to wash yourself every day?

[Viking]

Quote: leon-iv

Have you tried to wash yourself every day?

And this, by the way, is quite easily done in conditions of a completely ordinary soldier's laver. Wash your neck (with soap is better) - what work?

[Suvorov000]

Yeah, and how often did you manage to wash your neck, especially during exercises, sometimes change it three times a day, and it turns out to change faster than washing your neck

[Viking]

Quote: Suvorov000

These gateways that you say are not needed, a hygiene product, how often you wash your uniform, ideally once a week, so during this time the collar becomes dirty, after which boils appear on the neck and this is accordingly a dignity. part

Here are two questions that immediately come to my mind, and I have been asking them for a long time:
1) How can the Western armies do (and do) without such an important subject of hygiene? All in boils?
2) If the thing is so great, then why doesn’t it occur to a person in civilian life to hem something under the collar? How, too, solid frunks?

This thing was done in due time and for its time when a soldier, at best, once a week (or even less often) could wash, and washing uniforms, so generally, was a rarity. That is, approximately for the beginning to the middle of the 20th century. But now the 21st century is in the yard. And some of the "moss" oh, how they continue to live.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

They are pure cotton fabric as we do not use.

[Suvorov000]

And in our country, people are walking across the fields in the morning in the town, in order to wash the neck, except for water in a flask and a can for drinking, it’s not there, but you will bring water to the field, and you will pay for gas for the delivery, you generally asked. It is not correct to compare our and foreign armies, they have a sports camp there and therefore they always whine when they did not bring bottled water to them, they refuse to fight

[Pimply]

This is a means of hygiene against poverty. Because one form was given out, and washing was - once a week a bath. And the form, in theory, needs to be changed every day. Like going to the shower.

[Captain45]

Quote: Igorek

Yes, these collars nah ... not needed.

Igor, and you didn’t go into the heat in the dust in cotton without a collar? Try it, there will be indescribable sensations on the second or third day for the neck? And what to wash the jacket every day?

[Viking]

Quote: Captain45

and you didn’t go into the heat in the dust in cotton without a collar? Try, there will be indescribable sensations on the second or third day for the neck?

And it's not destiny to wash your neck every day? Or is it easier to bring up collars than water? And then who says (well, except perhaps the charter) that the jacket should be buttoned up to the last button? I’m saying - there are people who don’t wear anything and in what conditions, but they somehow manage well without collars. And the general furunculosis is not observed.

And in the army they cannot do, even in places of permanent deployment, with showers, washing machines, or even living at home (officers, after all, also hem a "vole") - why is that? By the fact that (IMHO, of course), but some "moss" on figs are not necessary, driven in for decades, hard to die off.

As well as for an example - a belt (belt). That is why in other armies in everyday situations they wear a field uniform without a belt (unless of course they want to attach something to it), why our officers and warrant officers out of order go without belt belts, and soldiers without a belt have something unimaginable. Why does he need him in the process of regular service? But, after all, the hand will not rise - to issue an order abolishing this anachronism remaining from the tunic. For, such as tradition ...

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Yes, I served in 2010, I had to sew, but this is only in everyday form, in the one that presents the composition of the fabric, there is no need to sew anything else for this. A program has been adopted to develop light industry until 2020, so the everyday form will also be normal.

[Oleg0705]

Quote: Viking

interesting and now the form is still hemmed doorways?

Collar (binder) is a narrow rectangular piece of white fabric sewn from the back of the tunic collar. Serves to prevent contamination of the collar.

[Joker]

Alexey, please review at least what is known now, you can show the products of our domestic companies with links to their sites and photos in an article, I think many will be interested in it and, again, they will know what can be bought for hunting or for some kind of hiking

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I’ll do it a bit later tomorrow. I’ll lay out a special form and then I’ll do a review of domestic Siberian nets.

[Joker]

Thanks in advance

[atesterev]

I don’t understand why the camouflage uniform is necessary?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

For special forces, it is olive-colored. You’ll see tomorrow tomorrow.

[atesterev]

By the way, here is an idea for Chubais! So that camouflage, after certain actions, can be repainted in any color!

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

This is the technology of the future, and Ryzhgo is not a bastard; he only opened about 30 enterprises over the past year from scratch.

[cth; fyn]

Footcloths, etc., this is of course the last century, but it’s still worthwhile to train soldiers so that they know how to reel footcloths, because during the war you won’t find socks with fire and with the support of artillery, it’s also no wonder to hem the collar, but nevertheless the skill must be, they won’t always deliver water, evil spirits will sit on the road and they will undermine the water carrier and everything. as an alternative to hemming Wet wipes, or a soldier’s handkerchief moistened with water from a flask, you can of course wipe it with snow and dry it with a handkerchief, but this is if you are extreme.
perhaps it will be in the form of military courses, because not every boy grown up in his mother’s hands will figure out how to make a wash basin out of a plastic bottle. It is possible that they will supplement the survival course with elements of arranging life.
Yes, you can’t stand still, but you should not rush. As the old Russian proverb says: Measure seven times, cut once.

[Maks111]

Since I lived at +40 in the shade in Crimea and -40 in Yakutia. I can say the following: In such a summer uniform, especially with our boots, our soldiers in regions where it is very hot will get very hot. I take a personal example in the summer in the Crimea you go home in underpants and anyway it’s very, very hot so it’s only in the house!
As for the winter. It’s very good that they will give out a hat-balaclava. Since in the winter at -35 and above the face begins to freeze, in particular the nose, you can freeze quickly (this is if -45 and above) Therefore, in conditions of extremely low temperature, you MUST cover your face. This is important. As far as the gloves are concerned, I’ll say the following, I personally (and I live in Yakutsk now) have fingers frozen in mittens and in their pockets in winter, i.e. hands are wearing gloves stuck in their pockets and still freeze. So I'm on the street for about 15-20 minutes no more. It is necessary to develop a separate form for conditions of extremely high and extremely low temperatures.

[PSih2097]

In such a summer uniform, especially our boots, our soldiers in regions where it is very hot will get a lot of hair. I take a personal example in the summer in the Crimea you go home in underpants and anyway it’s very, very hot so it’s only in the house!

Try to be like these - Summer:

[atesterev]

By the way, very uncomfortable shoes ... You get to lace up! Above the foot, the hooks are quicker. And so, in general, well, it’s very beautiful :) But, by the way, I did not see what was inside :) And besides, on the contrary, there are too many lines !!!

[leon-iv]

As if for the south it is sandy with shorts.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Here’s a set of Cherry specially for hot areas I use a battalion shield (the one on the right). For cold weather, what is presented is enough with a margin (I have the experience of operating a similar American kit and there is a balaclava for the face there. Plus, unification of equipment for Goz will be 80% between the military branches. Everything else is specialized. A special form for the Arctic brigades will be ready to be developed By the year 13, there are even pockets for chemical heaters.

[NUT]

LACE, "LIGHTNING", RUBBER = HARMFUL, betrayal, treason

[leon-iv]

only kirzachi
only footcloths
only hardcore

Threat itself is not funny?

[atesterev]

Well, actually laces tend to tear at the most inopportune moment ... Even from a very good mosvyavka :)

[Igor]

Quote: atesterev

Well, actually laces tend to tear at the most inopportune moment.

Make shoelaces from threads and you will be happy.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Read Lefty please or the history of the Crimean war.

[atesterev]

What do we have against Velcro?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Normally tested in the field.

[SIT]

Quote: atesterev

What do we have against Velcro?

All is well, except for one thing - if at night in the cooled dense air when it is quiet, you need to open a pocket or a velcro pouch, then this will be heard for 15-20m.

[PSih2097]

Let's go to the shoes.
Summer boots. Composition: 100% PA (Cordura) and polyurethane coated split - top, backing lining material with PTFE membrane, rubber outsole

To the author - How many bots cost and where can I get them (do not offer an army)?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

About 6000 rubles Faraday company

[atesterev]

If you are doused with napalm, then at least fried flippers are guaranteed!

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Normal synthetics are done with the expectation that you can remove so that it burns lousy. Do not think the designers are not fools either

[loc.bejenari]

I’ll tell you a terrible secret - the cost of WINTER shoes made of good materials (they will withstand 2-3 years of intensive wear) from manufacturers in Ukraine - a maximum of $ 35
this is the production price - material + salary + overhead
For a Russian manufacturer, add $ 5 (the difference in salary of a skilled worker in a shoe factory)
everything else - vendor wrap + purchaser kickbacks so that 200 Baku boots - on the conscience of shops or ordinary show-offs
Romanian producers - no need to talk about the quality of Romanian shoes - the situation is about the same
take a look at the website of one of the manufacturers -MEDIMPACT.RO there is a section of army shoes there -analogical shoe is sold for $ 20

[Srgsoap]

And who, will share about the camouflage pattern itself, I know that now the best cartoon works in disguise. It is interesting to hear the opinions of who is strong in the subject. Amerovskaya figure also works but not everywhere.

And here is the link http://ilveksen.ucoz.com/publ/test_kamufljazha/1-1-0-8-XNUMX.

In our regret, I did not find it, but does the vertical seem to work very well?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

We have a multi-landscape camcorder only border guards use it; the same surpat was created for specialists and border guards; by the way, they accepted it for supply, as regards our numbers, it works very well in the territory of the Russian Federation especially after 4 pm (personal observations) For desert areas we have a coyote and patern pattern for forces of CRRF

[Srgsoap]

As for the time figures, you just noticed, there is your own photo in the undergrowth illuminated, almost invisible.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

By the way, here the figure is lighter, it used to be only in a winter suit. It’s not easy to see how it shows itself.

[leon-iv]

Well, as if the cartoons are not universal
for the eurobands, the best is woodland and flora IMHO
Threat Well, maybe still CCE

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

There are versions for woodland. For us, it is better than the Surgut, Marpat, and the most chic Kadpat. Flecktarn behaves well in the fall.

[leon-iv]

By the way, in our team the raster undergrowth disguises very well.
Kadpat did not like why xs personal feelings.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Just for kadpat equipment x ... th find you personally I have never seen.

[Srgsoap]

Let me agree, woodland in the presence of black is very unmasking

[leon-iv]

how the leaves look right here in an erotic way to emphasize woodland on the dried grass.
Moreover, this is advertising, and now let's figure out what will happen to him in our forest.

[Srgsoap]

optimal for our cadpat, and for the southern regions, with burnt grass, sowing the cave, the cartoon is optimal.
even in the woods it seems to me that wood is losing

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

For the vdulant, the principle of action is different: it is a classic camouflage whose task is to hide a person; in modern kamkas, the task is to complicate aiming at a person.

[Srgsoap]

Alexei, in my opinion, it’s also very good to hide in modern ones, but the figure was created precisely on the basis of breaking down a person’s figure, breaking a familiar picture, I agree, but the cartoon works specifically on the perception of our eye, or rather its ability to add and draw, so when that shade, all camouflage merges with a specific color. I apologize if I strained greatly.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Yes, not everything is fine. Just the appearance of modern kamki is in my opinion a reevaluation of the database. Such camouflage as woodland for combined arms units in FIG does not need a specialist, but they do not need it because they work in direct contact. And they see the enemy as he does them. Here it is necessary to make it difficult for a person to blur the silhouette, which led to the appearance of such stones. But aku and the cartoon appeared because modern wars are usually of high intensity characterized by the use of not a large number of people, but they began to be characterized by cruelty about themselves. And since the terrain is different, it can be like the landscape of such stones as woodlant has become irrelevant. since it works only in a certain locality. And the same aku is good or bad but works everywhere.

[Srgsoap]

Thanks. And now on the "backfill question", then our figure .... this micropixel ... in my opinion, the color scheme of the kadpat

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Not our cam does not have any relation to patterns; the only similarity is only that the digital cam and everything and the colors in the cadpat and our cam are all different.

[atesterev]

I can’t say from the drawing, but our birch and its branches, according to intelligence, are very sausage :)

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I agree, I will not argue.

[Joker]

With camouflage, any camouflage is good, this also applies to multicam, it doesn’t work for our area, it is too bright, plus the original is very expensive, and it must be washed carefully. For specialists will do, but not as a combined arms.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

There is a forest version of the cartoon, what about leaving the holes so everywhere I have for example gloves 5.11 tactics for 5 thousand ducks, I wipe the brush very dry with their brush so that the skin does not crack. So everywhere for every thing care is needed.

[Srgsoap]

The work of the cartoon on the background of the wall, what do you say?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

By the way there is such a version of the cartoon

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Pants from the ads set are also a multilayer form of the last generation.

[Srgsoap]

Alexei, I haven’t seen one like this, but I think it should work well in our region. What do you think? Thanks for the photo.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

How to get it I say is simply expensive.

[Srgsoap]

How many sets do you have? Sorry for the curiosity. I have two ACU digital b Multicam. How expensive?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

http://www.warvar.ru/category/ads/offset12/ вот здесь цены у меня то что с арманы осталось есть плюс имеется Система Продвинутого Тактического Сокрытия A-TACS в такой расцветке вместе с комплектом термо бель под него

I really can’t find an unloading under it, but I’ve found the shoes. There is also a complete set of the edge of the 2011 sample.

[Srgsoap]

thanks for the link ... hung there now)))

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I understand my mother is furious that I already have more uniforms than citizens. Unloading current 3 pieces plus pouches for them now I want to see the belt system because I noticed that it is easier to pull out the store. And for a long time you run the code in a vest, saying that the breather quickly gets bogged down by a normal drink at transitions, it’s convenient to crawl and cool.

[Joker]

I will say that the area is excellent and photoshop is good

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

http://www.warvar.ru/category/ads/offset12/ вот здесь цены у меня то что с арманы осталось есть плюс имеется Система Продвинутого Тактического Сокрытия A-TACS в такой расцветке вместе с комплектом термо бель под него

I really can’t find an unloading under it, but I’ve found the shoes. There is also a complete set of the edge of the 2011 sample.

[Pedro]

The form is nothing. The main thing that would be selected in size. But there will certainly be problems. All this is the army.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Not with this right now, personal experience.

[uizik]

Looks normal. Shoes, but! Especially winter. Everything needs to be checked in various climatic zones and seasons. Then anonymous reviews about this form.

[leon-iv]

and what go.no?
Bertsa have been testing in different parts for 1,5 years

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Normal shoes only in summer boots can be a little hot.

[Dmitry.V]

My question is how long does it take to get to the maximum level?

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

About a minute and a half. At least I need so much.

[Dmitry.V]

Bystro.Thank you for the link to the site, many things interested, tried to find our analogue, alas, I did not find it with such a large selection.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Our anal is the one that is presented, it is licked with ads

[cth; fyn]

! .5 minutes? after a minute, the first platoon should already receive a weapon, only 40 seconds to dress, but I think whether the standard will be changed if they come up with something like watch companies.

[Colonel]

I guess this is bullshit. Prepared, serious, but bullshit. Wait and see.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

If the form from the Amer’s kit was licked then it’s normal.

[CC-18a]

Everything looks competently and seems to be convenient (but until you yourself vilify and not 5 minutes, it’s really hard to say every day for at least a month).
Only now, boots are cleaned in vain, they are needed, we are not amers to fight in the Arab countries, but in Africa we do not intend to fight in Russia, where in winter -45 it’s often even in the European part of the Russian Federation, well, in Siberia there’s generally -50 norm ... without felt boots are frozen, no shoes can save well shoes (rubber sole) cannot create acceptable conditions at such low temperatures. Moreover, the snow is deep with us, which means almost knee-deep with bliss - the snow will clog and thaw there to get wet.
At least the good old RELIABLE felt boots would be left to the Arctic connections. The main thing is "image is nothing - health is everything!"

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

They do not clean them in warehouses for 100 years in advance harvested.

[Last paladin]

something I didn’t see there at the training camp from VK, only trousers-shirts, jackets, caps, and T-shirts with pants in pixels

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

He form and test current purchased only 7 copies.

[Stasi.]

Design and develop uniforms and uniforms must professionals. Once in our country there was a specialized research institute that was engaged in this. There, all samples were tested in special temperature chambers and subjected to various influences. And only after numerous tests were launched into mass production. And what is happening now, God alone knows.

[loc.bejenari]

Well, remember, what else ... have they already designed in this specialized research institute
70% of the uniforms went into no limits due to obsolescence
what really was normal - everyday officer boots (I went to school with them from grade 7 to 10)
still very successful were the midshipmen's tunic and fleet parks
By the way - I really want to remember the GUS pea jacket - the progenitor of the Afghan winter uniform

[Colonel]

I don’t agree about that. Our form did not stop me from serving.

[phantom359]

Colonel,
The thought-out form, in my opinion, in the USSR Armed Forces was only in aviation. I mean the flight and technical personnel. In recent years, the so-called afghan is very personal, really nothing. But HB conscript is a complete hell. The overcoat is generally an anachronism. which to get rid of back in the 70s, when switching to a new model it was necessary.

[Colonel]

Since 1988, an overcoat, tunic, trousers "on the floor", trousers in boots and the boots themselves have been worn only on holidays. The rest of the time is a field form. As an example - an avatar (my photo, a year somewhere, 2003) In winter, an insulated suit, winter boots instead of ankle boots (domestic). And it's okay. The fighters were dressed in a simpler way, but again the overcoat was only in everyday life. In the field - vole, jackets, boots in winter. There are a lot of small utilities in the set now offered. I'm not sure if we can provide all this. And without them, the prosecutor's talk about the wrong wearing of a uniform will again go.

[imrek_ua]

Curious, how do all these polyesters, polyamides and fleece behave when exposed to an open flame? It would be sad in which case to rip off all this plastic along with skin and meat.

[cth; fyn]

There is a lot of cotton, because of this, the high temperatures are not too scary.

[imrek_ua]

I wouldn't say so. For example: "Jacket windbreaker (4th layer). Composition: 98% PA, 2% elastane." Cotton is not lying around here and there :(

[aksai61]

Question? Where's the waist belt ?! Where to hang a bayonet a knife, a shovel, a pomegranate bag, a pouch .... Or again there will be, as with this form, a belt in trousers under a jacket ... Doubtful convenience ....

[CHIM SMOKE]

The first clash will show what is needed - what is unnecessary, and what is easy to throw out. Something will be needed - then it will come, IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET INTO BATTLE - THERE WILL WE ALL AND WE WILL GET

[here and there]

It looks interesting, I like it)

[Cesar_Xnumx]

The only worthwhile thing is the cap)

[Andrey77]

:) The cap from my service remained. There are 2 buttons on the top. Thing!

[cth; fyn]

Old ?, but the old cap was more successful.

[Andrey77]

I wear amerovskie ACU. 65% polyestr, 35% cotton ripstop. Convenient, practical. Our ALLOY is not suitable for soles. True 2500 p. instead of 800 p. : (((These are only pants.

[cth; fyn]

I also have the Bundesfer's uniform: trousers, a shirt - comfortable, practical in comparison with Nashinsky lump heaven and earth. Yes, the price is of course different. One pants 2 mowers stand, but in the grass they are less noticeable, the color is more natural, the fabric cannot be killed at all, thanks to the Burgers, they are still cool guys!

[cth; fyn]

Why minus? everything is simple: I saw this form in comparison with the usual "Flora".
Here are a few notes:
Winter jacket, the absence of a collar leads to blowing off the neck and pneumonia (Fact!)
The windbreaker (tunic), does not breathe at all, leads to the appearance of sweating and fungi, fatigue l / s (Fact!).
Cap: no "ears" which leads to blowing ears in windy weather, especially in spring and autumn (Fact!)
Pants: do not breathe, feet sweat, all this leads to sweating.
Ankle boots: "Gore-tex" I have never seen such, mostly artificial boots, for me boots are better in general, although ankle boots look beautiful.

The main gripe is the quality, after two or three hand washes, the fabric breaks, seams immediately begin to break, especially the hip flaps. In winter, at 40 degrees below zero, this form is useless; in return for these jackets, old Soviet time-tested sheepskin coats were issued. In the summer, fainting occurred due to heat stroke. And the frequency of contacting the medical center with our call point and the young one was obviously different, the poor fellows without a trace fell ill with colds (Kalichi Stsuko).
The main problem is that the wrong fabric is selected, no fabric composition is good, but the weaving is disgusting. moreover, it was not created at a research institute, but by a fashion designer - Yudashkin, but how can a yudashkin know what a soldier needs and what’s next from Zverev’s hair? Victoria's Underwear Secret ?.
The army needs normal uniforms, which were taken away from it, I'm talking about "Flora", but there are complaints, but why not modernize it and bring it to mind?
for example, fly: replace the buttons with Velcro, why the answer is simple with Velcro, the soldier will be able to change the zipper in the field, and it’s easier to sew the Velcro. the same with sleeves, the old cap is generally the height of excellence, buttoned up the ears and norms, but what you look doesn’t matter what difference does it make?
The old tunic should be made so that it would be refueled, it’s more convenient, since a good tunic is only too heavy in summer, remove the ridiculous lower valves, never wore anything in them and most of the other boys did not use them either.
Replace the soldier's belt with an officer belt - it will generally be KUL! Or an ordinary leather belt, this thing is familiar to all the boys.
The fabric is good, it just does not breathe, but it does not tear.
in general the thought broke off, at first I knew what to write, but right now everything stuck and got confused. I can only say one thing in comparison with the old flora, the figure does not hold water.

[alex4i4erin]

Everything is fine and probably practical, but I’m probably a conservative ... well, how is the shoulder strap on my chest? I will never accept this. I understand about the snipers of the enemy who consider the stars on uniform, etc. etc. We solved these problems easily, why copy everything in a row from a potential adversary? I would copy this http://spec-naz.org/articles/the_reform_and_transformation/new_camouflage_for_u_
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[sso-xnumx]

Why not use our native linen instead of cotton, huh? And more hygienic and patriotic, and then run somewhere look for cotton.

[Pastukhov P.]

In such a summer uniform, especially our boots, our soldiers in regions where it is very hot will get a lot of hair. I take a personal example in the summer in the Crimea you go home in underpants and anyway it’s very, very hot so it’s only in the house!

In "ordinary" black military ankle boots, and beige ankle boots for a hot climate, he served in Tajikistan, at +40 degrees Celsius - no problem.

The main thing is to wash your feet more often, if possible, and wash your socks - also if possible.
Everything is done with the same military soap - a great thing that some "ladies" complain about because of its smell - which may not be entirely pleasant, but it definitely indicates the desired properties of the product.

Subject to hygiene - even within the framework of the field ..., no, no way out - just living in the field, from 5 to 8 months - subject to hygiene, and in outfits "goes" and "works" normally, without any problems for well-being :)