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The thought of the modern working class (part of 1)

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There would be a hat, a coat of drape,
And to them the stomach and head.

There would be vodka, and vodka would have a sip,
Everything else is tryn-grass.
(Song of the anarchists from the movie “Optimistic Tragedy”)


Not so long ago on the pages of "VO", as always, the controversy about Comrade Stalin went, and all that would be fine. After all, we are discussing historical crowned heads - from Cyrus to Caligula and from Heliogabalus to Robespierre, and others. Why not? On the contrary, any public discussion is useful because it allows to reveal the facets of human ignorance and the degree of mythologization of society. And here, alas, miracles come to light. For example, that the proletariat, that is, the working class, is still homogeneous in our country. That the Russian communist-revolutionaries were very unlucky with the people - at first he was illiterate by nature, and then became illiterate due to the death of all literate and "correct communists" during the Second World War, and so on. Not to mention some downright monstrous number of Trotskyists in the USSR, who in the most different years seduced the innocence of everyone else, and some, in fact, omnipotent and all-pervading. It is just right to call another cry on this topic "The world mafia of Trotskyists against the USSR", but I don't want to take away the crust of bread from others ... But it would obviously not hurt to talk about the working class, because here in the minds of many visiting "VO" there is simply complete confusion and vacillation.

To begin with, many people now like to talk about what, what, they say, today is the working class, when "all the factories are standing." But are they worth it? It is clear that the most recent matter is to refer in such complex matters to my own personal experience, as well as to the experience of friends, relatives, relatives of friends and friends of relatives, but I still consider some of the “on-topic” memories valid. In particular, this concerns my childhood memories of the working class, since they have not yet become “clouded” with any ideology.

I was born and grew up on Proletarskaya Street (Penza), which still exists today, although it has changed a lot. So, every morning I woke up from the tramp of my feet. People flooded the bicycle factory (the Frunze plant) in the morning and also returned in a flood after 17 hours. In the summer, by this time, my grandmother usually collected several buckets of fallen apples and carried them on plates to the bench at the gate to my grandfather sitting there. He had such a hobby - to sit on a bench and ... people walking by, came up to him and bought a bowl of apples. The grandmother did not appreciate, asked for 10-15 kopecks, and all the apples were sorted out very quickly. It was impossible to play on the street at that time: so many people passed through it. Later, at school, I learned that 40 thousands of people worked at the plant. They did there not only bicycles, but also weapon, but exactly which one did not know. They took us there and on excursions around the workshops, but showed only an electroplating workshop, assembly and woodworking, where we gathered ourselves excellent smooth wooden churches for shredding boats.


Checkpoint plant them. Frunze in the Soviet era, where these 40 thousands of men and women worked.

All the parents of my peers, boys, with whom I played, worked at this factory, and both fathers and mothers.

I was especially familiar with the family of the Mulins' neighbors, who lived from me through a fence in an old multi-family wooden house that looked like a rabbit hole. The family consisted of five people. Father, mother, old grandmother and two boys - the younger Zhenka and the elder Sasha. The first is younger than me, the second is a bit older. Two adults worked, and they lived like this: one big room, looking like a pencil case and divided into two halves by the stove, and cold, although large canopy. In front of this “pencil box” there were two windows and there was a chest of drawers, a one-and-a-half bed for the father and mother (and how they fit in there!), A wardrobe and a table, and also a bedside table and TV on it (after 1961). In the back there are two beds for boys and a chest for the grandmother. Well, and all the amenities were naturally in the yard. The food was cooked in the summer on a primus in the passage, and in the winter on the stove. Usually it was soup and fried potatoes. And that's it! Yes, on the walls under the wallpaper, they occasionally had small red bugs (I did not know that they were bugs), but when I told about them at home, I was strictly forbidden to go there. There were houses with better conditions - the house where the pilot of the local squadron lived, and there were even worse, for example, the house of “Sanka-snotty”, a boy with constant snot of bright green color, who was considered decent occasionally to slam over these snot.


The author (in the center) and his comrades Mulina are Sasha and Zhenka (and the neighbor's girl), and also the boy Vitya (in a plaid shirt). Photo taken in the summer of 1962. By the way, behind the fence, the roof of the toilet is already visible in my yard - judging by its height, the construction was just monumental. Grandfather did not regret the boards! By the way, the picture was taken after all in the city, but ... in the photo is a real village with a washstand on the street and krynkami on the fence. We wear satin trousers and shirts. On his feet Vietnamese polukedy. Not everyone. In general, the typical inhabitants of Harlem ... Now even the gypsies are better dressed than we were then dressed - the children of Soviet workers and employees.

In these conditions, the Mulines lived up to the 1968 year, when, thanks to the Kosygin reform, workers began to build houses at the Mill, and their wages were raised to 320 rubles, so that it equaled my mother's earnings. And if earlier, when they came to my house, they envied me, now, having come to them in a new apartment, I was already envious of them. I especially liked the awful lacquered furniture made of chipboard, but at that time I did not know that it was awful, and considered this firewood the height of beauty and elegance.

What else did I know at the time about the workers? What periodically they get drunk and drunk lying around under the fence. Usually this happened on payday. I didn’t see anybody lying around, probably, just had no luck. But stumbling citizens met a lot.

Then in the fifth grade, when I got tired of learning how to do it, because my mother was in graduate school in Moscow, she explained to me that it is my duty to study well, and not “you will become a worker, that's how Sashkin and Zhenkin’s father” (he He was drinking heavily, not at all, but, sometimes, he appeared drunk, and then in the house they had a curse that still). “And we are all equal!” - I boldly declared, having gathered at school the foundations of Marxism-Leninism, and I received an interesting rebuke: “Yes, they are equal, but some are more equal than others!”, And this despite the fact that she didn’t read Orwell could And then it was stated to me that if only you become a worker and, after the first payday, you are drunk and spit out, “I will not tear you away from my heart and son!” For a fifth-grader who was brought up with a grandfather, grandmother and mother, Which was “somewhere out there” was, of course, not just a blow, but a real knockout. So by the 10 class I practically everything, except mathematics, straightened my “tails”.


Another photo taken on the same day. Such were we, “boys with Proletarskaya”. “When I was a boy, I wore flared trousers, a straw hat, a Finnish knife in my pocket ...” We loved this song!

Well, then there was a university, a village where people turned out to be ... “even stranger than on Proletarskaya Street,” and there again the university and graduate school. All this time, if I saw the workers, it was only in those cases when I came to one or another plant to give them lectures on the line of the RK CPSU. And it was here that I had to get acquainted with the working class from a slightly different angle, namely, according to the documents of the party archives. It turned out that my fellow postgraduate students wrote dissertations on the party leadership ... something industrial there, while the theme of my work was the party leadership in the scientific and technical creativity of the students of the Middle Volga region in the 9 5th five-year plan. And, of course, we exchanged information, read each other the most odious examples. In addition, as a lecturer of the RK CPSU, I had to constantly “improve qualifications”, attend lectures of Central Committee instructors who periodically came to us and ... instructed what people can say and what cannot and how best to answer various tricky questions.


From one of these meetings, which took place in the autumn of 1985, just a month before my departure to Kuibyshev (Samara), I now had a tousled and greasy notebook, where I also wrote (in left) with a pen in blue ink 40% of the working population is engaged in manual labor, that is ... we have a very bad job with labor productivity. That in the agriculture of the USSR 27 million people are employed in rural labor, and they cannot provide enough food for the country, and in the USA there are all 4,5 million, and they feed their whole country and there is enough food aid. The shortage of labor within the framework of the Penza region is 40 thousand people, and there is nowhere to take them, and the most difficult will be the 13 five-year period - because 94% of the working-age population will be involved, and there are no reserves. On the right are interesting figures on the rockets, which could be voiced and said how the ICBMs will be reduced and how many of them we have, and how many of them. And also, that Voice of America is broadcasting 17 in Russian hours a day and we should strengthen counter-propaganda! Well, all kinds of curls appeared when the lecturer said something banal and uninteresting ... this is understandable.

Well, acquaintance with the data of the archives also gave a lot, because there was just some very interesting information about drunkenness in the brigades of communist labor, scandals over the apartments, and anti-Soviet statements of a number of irresponsible workers — in one word, all of life.

Another source of information was the work ... yes, the founders of Marxism, who were required to read from us in full and, I must say, among them were many interesting things. Here, first of all, it is necessary to call Lenin's The Development of Capitalism in Russia, which he wrote in 1896 — 1899, and came out quite legally at the end of March 1899 in a small St. Petersburg publishing house, M.I. Vodovozovoy edition of 2400 copies under the pseudonym Vladimir Lenin. About 500 sources were used in the work, and the level of its scientific character and degree of generalization are such that, by today's standards, a degree of doctor of sociological or economic sciences could be given for it immediately.

To be continued ...
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 26 November 2018 15: 28
    +14
    Well, acquaintance with the data of the archives also gave a lot, because there was just some very interesting information about drunkenness in the brigades of communist labor, scandals over the apartments, and anti-Soviet statements of a number of irresponsible workers — in one word, all of life.

    Well, I didn’t have a chance to visit the archives, but I worked at factories and heard what hard workers say about everyday life first-hand and not from archives in the 90s ... I remember it for life.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 26 November 2018 15: 35
      -5
      .... The family consisted of five people. Father, mother, old grandmother and two boys - the youngest Zhenya and the senior Sasha. The first is younger than me, the second is a little older. Two adults worked, and they lived like this: one large room, similar to a pencil case and divided by a stove into two halves, and cold, although large canopies. In the front of this “case” there were two windows and there was a chest of drawers, one and a half bed for father and mother (and how they fit there only!), A wardrobe and a table, and also a nightstand and a TV on it (after 1961). In the back there are two beds for boys and a chest for grandmother. Well, all the amenities were naturally in the yard. Food was prepared in the summer on a primus in the entrance hall, and in the winter on the stove. Usually it was cabbage soup and fried potatoes. And that’s all! Yes, on the walls under the wallpaper they periodically had small red bugs (I did not know that they were bed bugs), but when I told them about them at home, I was strictly forbidden to go there ....


      ...that in our region 40% of the working population is engaged in manual labor, that is ... with labor productivity, things are very bad with us. That in the agriculture of the USSR, 27 million people are engaged in rural labor, and they cannot provide enough food for the country, and in the USA there are all 4,5 million of them, and they feed their whole country and there is enough food assistance. The shortage of labor in the framework of the Penza region again is 40 thousand people, and there is nowhere to take them, and the most difficult will be the 13 five-year plan - since 94% of the working population will be involved, and there will be no reserves ......


      You're lying! ... wassat You should have written that this is all happening under Putin !!!

      Author, on this site you will find complete defeat ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 26 November 2018 15: 50
        +14
        You are wrong "We are army" .. Many thanks for the article V. Shpakovsky .. I am also from a similar family and city ...
        1. Zubr
          Zubr 27 November 2018 11: 10
          +5
          hi
          We all come from there. We all come from childhood.
      2. kalibr
        26 November 2018 18: 45
        +7
        On this site, this is 974 my article for three years, so I will somehow survive the "defeat" of people like you! And "takat" is not necessary, you do not introduce yourself to me. And a photo of the then poverty is in front of your eyes ...
        1. naidas
          naidas 26 November 2018 20: 19
          +16
          Quote: kalibr
          A photo of the then poverty before your eyes ...

          But you must admit, then this was not considered poverty, they lived like everyone else.
          1. kalibr
            26 November 2018 21: 49
            0
            Exactly. Not better and not worse. But ... THIS LEVEL WAS VERY LOW. You see what we are dressed in ...
            1. Sofievka
              Sofievka 27 November 2018 07: 43
              +11
              In 1966, my brother and I were asked the insoluble question of what to connect - light or radio? Mom cooked on kerosene gas, and then, somehow by itself, bam, and we have gas, though balloon, light, radio and TV, "Aurora-2", our neighbors every evening, and constantly alarms in the garrison and hum taking off "carcasses"
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 31 December 2018 08: 21
                +1
                Around the same time, this happens throughout the developed world, when the population sharply becomes well-fed and clothed.
            2. Altona
              Altona 27 November 2018 22: 41
              +13
              Quote: kalibr
              Exactly. Not better and not worse. But ... THIS LEVEL WAS VERY LOW. You see what we are dressed in ...

              -------------------------
              So we started from a low level. Tsarism was not a regime of general welfare. Most villages lived in the villages. Russia did not have colonies from which it was possible to draw wealth and not oppress its workers. The British Empire, if you remember, collapsed only by the 1960s of the last century completely. The USA made good money on 2 world wars and the dominance of the dollar. Yes, I remember, my classmate lived in a hut with an earthen floor, but then the plant allocated his mother a 1-room apartment, in which he still lives. Yes, part of the industry was backward, but it gave work in the territories, in medium and small cities. Your article is riddled with childhood emotions, not an objective view of the situation. In addition, the USSR was under sanctions and some technology had to be obtained by espionage or through third countries. Yes, the workers drank, but this was the result of stupid Suslovian prohibitions and the intentional lumpenization of part of the proletariat by the official leadership, which, through blat and deficit, went to the restoration of capitalism. Now, with a backward mind, it is easy to analyze certain events. Therefore, I will not write here for a long time well-known things or nostalgic.
        2. Nasrat
          Nasrat 26 November 2018 22: 23
          +3
          Quote: kalibr
          On this site, this is 974 my article for three years, so I will somehow survive the "defeat" of people like you!


          Like me? ... Hehe .. obviously the author does not know sarcasm (do not notice the smiley wassat hard) Look how Savrog "drowns" against the article ... And they support him ... and you know why - people need a fairy tale, and then reality is thrown onto their fairy tale ..
          1. kalibr
            27 November 2018 19: 30
            0
            Here you are completely right, my humor is really bad. And it was always bad. What can you do, it's too late to study. And I don't look at emoticons. I'm not used to it. So sorry for the return "hitting".
        3. sabakina
          sabakina 27 November 2018 18: 20
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          A photo of the then poverty before your eyes ...
          Well, my picture was taken later than yours, 15-17 years after yours. Tell me, is there a city or a village in the photo? wink
        4. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 28 November 2018 08: 57
          +7
          Quote: kalibr
          ...... a photo of the then poverty before your eyes ...
          Oh! What are you wearing! And what were in the UK and the USA then dressed? And then in Poland, Hungary, Germany? However, the statistics depend on who counts, as well as on who orders the count!
          1. ROBIN-SON
            ROBIN-SON 28 November 2018 16: 11
            +3
            You're right. Everything is changing. I remember the train crossed Poland, my father was transferred to the GDR to serve. Year 1962. We drove through a large city. Outskirts. Winter. And I see a Pole. Worth looking at the train. And barefoot wooden clogs?
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 28 November 2018 19: 27
              +1
              Quote: ROBIN-SON
              You're right. Everything is changing. I remember the train crossed Poland, my father was transferred to the GDR to serve. Year 1962. the Pole .... barefoot wooden clogs?
              I think that maybe not only in Poland. Good ---- once cut from wood ---- wear all life.
              I don’t remember exactly, some Italian or French film 50-60gggg, black / white ---- so-so zhituha, some farm, dressed, like quilted jackets and eat, well, very modest and not much ....
              Or the same "purely English murders" ----- there are sometimes inserts about the past tense of characters ---- there is no abundance.
              1. sunzhenets
                sunzhenets 4 December 2018 10: 02
                0
                Father served in Poland, 1965-1968. According to him, a poor country. Soldiers in AWOL exchanged army soap for moonshine. And for the army boots or underwear, the owner of the farm sent his daughter to the barn with a fighter.
        5. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 28 November 2018 11: 03
          +4
          Quote: kalibr
          On this site, this is 974 my article for three years, so I will somehow survive the "defeat" of people like you! And "takat" is not necessary, you do not introduce yourself to me. And a photo of the then poverty is in front of your eyes ...

          You compare the 60s and our time, then discard the photo of the working class of Chicago 60s and let's compare it with our time.
          1. kalibr
            2 December 2018 19: 50
            0
            Read Ilf and Petrov about Chicago 30's ...
      3. Lighten
        Lighten 2 December 2018 11: 27
        +1
        There are those who saw it themselves. That is the opinion of individual commentators in the furnace.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 26 November 2018 15: 37
      +37
      childhood memories and a hint that life is now clearly better and less drunk .. Here it should be noted that life has changed all over the world, new technologies, new materials, which led to general development and progress, and the USSR at that time was the second world economy , despite the Second World War and the subsequent restoration of a country that has risen from ruins at a pace that for today is not achievable .. I have more bright memories, although objectively, there were many shortcomings in the USSR, but this does not mean that today is better .. today it’s actually much worse, because people don’t have confidence in the future, there is no hope .. like in hell .. leave hope to everyone who enters here .. The state should be suitable for the full life of all its citizens, which means that these citizens should have equal opportunities .. Now this is not and will not be under capitalism. In general, capitalism - as a form of being, in the realities of Russia will soon turn into feudalism, which will destroy everything completely ..
      1. kakvastam
        kakvastam 26 November 2018 16: 28
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        I have more bright memories

        The fact of the matter is - everyone has their own memories, but few people realize that "the steering wheel is somewhere nearby" ...
        So there are information bubbles filled with supporters of one or another view of the past and the present, and the inhabitants of each with good reason declare: "Among my acquaintances, no one (or everything, it does not matter)" ...
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 38
          -9
          This is a bit wrong.
          U; but there is a historical result of the work of the Soviet system. Namely - her complete failure.
          Whatever bubbles we come up with, no matter which side we take, this fact is nowhere to be found.
          And he naturally had good reasons. What kind? That is the main question.
          It’s clear what this is. as the author describes, one of the good reasons. More precisely, not causes, but a complex of observed consequences of various reasons. Which in turn led to the fatal finale of the entire system.
          Neither education, nor excellent enthusiastic engineers, nor the true builders of socialism saved it. Even the firm hand of the party did not help.
          This is what we need to think about - how not to repeat it, and draw the right conclusions when there may be the next attempt to build socialism.
          But do not ride under the red flag across the square shouting Putin come in, having heard the admonitions about the beautiful USSR.
          1. kakvastam
            kakvastam 26 November 2018 16: 47
            +7
            Quote: Mestny
            This is a bit wrong.
            U; but there is a historical result of the work of the Soviet system. Namely - her complete failure.

            And here, too, is not so, and also a little.
            Before this was the historical result of the work of the previous formation, and it was its complete failure, which does not prevent the leadership of the young country with enthusiasm from pushing us there. Historical development, if you look, is generally a series of complete failures.
            There is a classic mistake "post hoc ergo propter hoc", which, of course, does not cancel the fact that the USSR came to its collapse quite naturally.
            However, an analysis of the causes of the lesion is not a sign of weakness.
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 26 November 2018 17: 00
              +7
              By the way, I agree. Already wrote about this.
              We look:
              Monarchy - a century-long lag as a result of failure, revolution, anarchy.
              The bourgeois revolution is a complete and quick failure, complete anarchy, the collapse of the country.
              The October Revolution - in spite of any achievements (significant) is still a failure.
              Capitalism of the "Western" type - we are confidently moving towards failure, that is, again towards collapse and anarchy.
              This has never happened, and here it is again.
              "Can we fix something at the conservatory?"
              What am I leading to - can we try to build something working at least once?
            2. sunzhenets
              sunzhenets 4 December 2018 10: 16
              0
              The transition from feudalism to capitalism in Europe is the sixteenth and eighteenth centuries. The historical process of changing the capitalist socio-economic formation of the socialist is inevitable. The USSR was the first attempt, even if the capitalists dumped it, but the creation of a powerful USSR in the backward RI showed the advantages of socialism.
              1. kakvastam
                kakvastam 4 December 2018 14: 22
                0
                Little succeeds on the first try.
                It is bad that Mr. Putin and his comrades so dream of restoring the monarchy, although, if you look from the point of view of civilization matrices, autocracy is much closer to socialism than capitalism of the Anglo-Saxon kind.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 26 November 2018 17: 01
            +11
            Quote: Mestny

            This is a bit wrong.
            U; but there is a historical result of the work of the Soviet system. Namely - her complete failure.

            Please give examples of "failure" On the numbers, if possible, and I'll give you the numbers as an answer. Failure is what is happening now.
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 26 November 2018 17: 10
              +3
              What is happening now happens AFTER the USSR ceased to exist.
              What will happen now, we will evaluate later, after another failure - sitting in a dugout by the fire.
              What are your examples, in what numbers?
              The USSR is no more, and this, as Putin said, is the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the XNUMXth century.
              1. Mcar
                Mcar 26 November 2018 17: 58
                0
                Quote: Mestny

                What is happening now happens AFTER the USSR ceased to exist.

                “After” does not mean “due to”
                "After that - it means because of this" - logical trickin which a causal relationship is identified with a chronological, temporary relationship: "If event X occurred after event Y, then event Y is the cause of event X."
          3. Svarog
            Svarog 26 November 2018 17: 11
            +24
            Quote: Mestny

            This is a bit wrong.
            U; but there is a historical result of the work of the Soviet system. Namely - her complete failure.

            I know that apart from unfounded slogans you have nothing, so I will not expect numbers from you and will give you an example of "failures"
            Life expectancy in Russia:
            in 1896–97 was 32 years old,
            in USSR:
            in 1926-27 - 44 years old,
            in 1958-59 - 69 years old,
            in 1970–71 he was 70 years old.
            And just for comparison:
            in 2005 - 65,3 years
            In 2016 - 66,6 years
            IN USSR:

            Immediately in the 20s, a literacy program was launched. As a result, by the beginning of the 30s, the literacy rate of the population was close to 95%, and by the beginning of the 40s, almost 100%.
            Average life expectancy. In 1926–27 - 44 years old, in 1958–59 - 69 years old, in 1970–71 - 70 years old.
            I will not speak about infant mortality. During the years of Soviet power, it decreased by 9 times. And in 1970 amounted to 25 people out of 1000. Compare with 269 ...
            The population of the RSFSR during the years of Stalin's rule grew by 25 million people. (i.e. there are more Russians)
            1) in 1926 - 92737 thousand people
            2) in 1939 - 108379 thousand people
            3) in 1959 - 117534 thousand people.
            the entire USSR (growth of 62 million)
            1) in 1926 - 147028
            2) in 1939 - 190678
            3) in 1950 - 178500
            4) in 1959 - 208827
            And this is taking into account the "terrible repression" and the war.

            Here are two comparisons, as you see, modern Russia does not even reach close to the life expectancy in the USSR, or to the population growth, which is minus in modern Russia. And population growth, this is an indicator of everything in the country, they give birth to children when they believe that they will have a future, when they are confident in the future and when there is something to feed them ..
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 26 November 2018 17: 16
              -12
              Yes, how much can you ...
              WHERE IS IT ALL ??????
              Is Putin to blame?
              Why don't you give statistics for example 1993? Or 1998?
              It just clearly reflects the very result that those former Soviet people achieved - with the best education in the world, medicine, and so on.
              How did it happen? Or weren't they?
              No, I understand in 2018 a completely different generation. But, as a result, it also relies on us, the very ones from the USSR.
              But for some reason it turned out like this.
              How so?

              You understand, you can even write a book with numbers about how successful the USSR was.
              This will not cancel the fact that as a result he was gone.
              1. raw174
                raw174 26 November 2018 18: 01
                -5
                Quote: Mestny
                You understand, you can even write a book with numbers about how successful the USSR was.
                This will not cancel the fact that as a result he was gone.

                They don’t understand. Why admit the obvious, it's easier to say that everyone around does not understand anything! Kremlin agents in general. Yes, a lot has been achieved under the Union, but the system has not proved viability. China followed the path of capitalism, North Korea remained faithful to the social system, the result, to put it mildly, is not very good ...
                1. Mcar
                  Mcar 27 November 2018 04: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: raw174
                  Yes, a lot has been achieved under the Union, but the system has not proved viability.

                  I like that "the system has proven not viable". More than fifty victims of Chikatilo also "proved not viable."

                  It’s difficult, you know, to prove viability when you are killed, but there is nothing to defend yourself or not.

                  But the capitalist system has already proved its non-viability. For her, the only way out of the global crisis is global war.

                  Quote: raw174
                  North Korea remained true to the social system, the result, to put it mildly, is not very good ...

                  It depends on what you measure. If, by the level and accessibility of education and medicine, then the achievements of the DPRK are absolutely inaccessible to any of the capitalist countries. Then sanctions were imposed and that part of society was unhappy. And the DPRK has been blockaded for 65 years, and the same number have been at war. I’m thinking, if the States were in such a blockade, how many days would a civil war begin there?
              2. Amper
                Amper 26 November 2018 20: 02
                +17
                As a result, the USSR is gone !?
                As a result of the betrayal of the ruling elites by the ideas of socialism, as a result of the removal, and the elimination itself, of the working people and, in the first place, the proletariat from government.
                The most unprincipled, immoral, deceitful and greedy people come to power everywhere first of all. They are most easily organized into groups. Two dozen armed bandits with the support of corrupt officials and security officials (and vice versa) can keep the cowardly and uninitiated people in fear, where everyone is for himself.
                Lenin proved and showed the whole world that there is another social society where the law of capitalism - profit, the purpose of existence, is vicious.
                The last one to remember this was Stalin. Although his methods of achieving this goal are far from ideal. After Stalin's death, the erosion and distortion of these bright ideas began.
                Yes, capitalism has triumphed. Who better to live from? To the people !? He has nothing, nothing at all. And that is, they will be selected in the near future under the next plausible pretext, such as retirement age, factories, factories, land, the right to freedom of expression, etc.
                Speak Pu is not to blame? Of course not, he accidentally lingered here ... And he is not alone ... Only you, citizens, come in, do not linger, this is not for you and not for you.
                1. EvilLion
                  EvilLion 31 December 2018 08: 19
                  0
                  It’s easy to betray the people. Well, it means such a stupid people.
              3. BecmepH
                BecmepH 27 November 2018 10: 47
                +6
                Quote: Mestny
                This will not cancel the fact that as a result he was gone.

                Well, not ... And now what? Delete from history? To forget? But what about the lessons of the past? Pushkin, too, was gone ... But we remember!
                1. Cube123
                  Cube123 27 November 2018 21: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Quote: Mestny
                  This will not cancel the fact that as a result he was gone.

                  Well, not ... And now what? Delete from history? To forget? But what about the lessons of the past? Pushkin, too, was gone ... But we remember!

                  Alexey, in order to draw the correct conclusions from the lessons of the past, you need to carefully deal with the root causes, and not argue about the terms of how to call "capitalism", "socialism", etc.

                  This is not the problem. Let me try to give a brief look at the problem of a systems engineer.

                  I hope that it is clear that the result of any activity depends on the goals that a person sets himself. Now compare the two goals:

                  The first goal: in order to survive, I need to sell the results of my work. If I cannot find a buyer for them, then I will starve to death. So humanity has been living for millennia.

                  Second goal: my goal is to fulfill the plan at all costs. They won’t scold me if I did my work badly or nobody needs my work. But I will be severely punished if I cannot at all costs fulfill the plan that has been launched from above in quantitative terms.

                  The problem is that at the last stage of socialism, it was the second goal that took the main role. In order to illustrate what this led to, I will give a real example that happened to me in the late 80s. On December 10, the head of the planning department comes running to me with the question: "Do you have anyone who can master 2 million rubles in two weeks?" To make it clearer, I will explain the complexity of the problem - two million rubles at that time was a monthly salary of 10 people. Those. it doesn't matter if I do something useful with this money, the only important thing is the ability to report in time on the full implementation of the financial plan on the topic. Here it is - real socialism of the last stage in action.
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 28 November 2018 05: 37
                    +2
                    Quote: Cube123
                    "Do you have anyone who can master 2 million rubles in two weeks?"

                    Those. it doesn’t matter if I make something useful with this money, only the ability to report on the full implementation of the financial plan on the topic is important in time. Here it is - the real socialism of the last stage in action.
                    That's right, you write. Only one hitch ... Exactly the same case was with me in 2000. The difference is only in the amount and timing (tomorrow). And this is far from the USSR.
                    And yet, I think that it was not the planned economy (which is now more often remembered with a kind word) that was the fault of the collapse of the USSR.
                    I will not debate on economic issues, because here I am an oak))
                    1. Cube123
                      Cube123 28 November 2018 12: 31
                      +3
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      Exactly the same case was with me in 2000. The difference is only in the amount and timing (tomorrow). And this is far from the USSR.

                      That is why I urged you not to pay attention to the terms. It is not the names that are important, but the goals that society sets for itself. The "first goal" is not characteristic of capitalism. It existed under feudalism, and under the slave system, and under the primitive communal system. In fact, it appeared already at the beginning of the social division of labor. And it was she who made the members of society do what was useful for society as a whole. But at the final stage of the existence of the USSR, it completely lost its role. So the tasks went: "To catch up and overtake", "To come out on top in the production of iron and steel", ... But does the country need such a quantity of iron and steel? - put out the brackets. As a result, the country began to “blow away” a huge amount of resources. And the factors hindering this process were completely absent. Now compare your own feelings when you need to spend money allocated to you by someone else, with those feelings when you yourself decide to buy something for your own earned money. "This is where the dog rummaged wink "
              4. sunzhenets
                sunzhenets 4 December 2018 10: 28
                0
                Quote: Mestny
                Is Putin to blame? Why don't you give statistics, for example, in 1993? Or 1998?
                It just clearly reflects the very result that those former Soviet people achieved - with the best education in the world, medicine, and so on.

                Breaking - not building. Soon 19 years as the successor of Yeltsin in power. The most obvious result is pension reform.
            2. EvilLion
              EvilLion 31 December 2018 08: 19
              0
              In the USSR it was never 70 years old, now life expectancy is the greatest. The level of medicine has grown even in comparison with the 80s. And Russia no longer feeds any Turkmens and Negroes for the sake of the incomprehensible "friendship of the people."
          4. Altona
            Altona 27 November 2018 23: 21
            +3
            Quote: Mestny
            U; but there is a historical result of the work of the Soviet system. Namely - her complete failure.


            Demonstrating one of the rooms in my Khrushchev house, in which I live, as "a complete failure of the Soviet system."
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 27 November 2018 12: 08
        -2
        Absolutely nothing prevents a full life now! In addition to health and age.
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 28 November 2018 09: 10
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        ...... there were many shortcomings in the USSR, but this does not mean that today is better .. today it is actually much worse, because people don’t have confidence in the future, there is no hope .. like in hell .. give up hope everyone entering here .. The state should be suitable for the full life of all its citizens, which means that these citizens should have equal opportunities .. Now this is not and will not be under capitalism. In general, capitalism - as a form of being, in the realities of Russia will soon turn into feudalism, which will destroy everything completely ..

        Reading ideological songs and poems by Soviet authors, I see a desire to unite the people, and also ---- "the people and the party are united." Now - what? "The state --- is not obliged ..." "Pensioners can use macaroshkas .... but I do not have to pay by status", "pensions should not be paid to anyone, and medicine should be paid." Officials and a medical deputy - against the people?
        1. parma
          parma 28 November 2018 15: 03
          -1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Quote: Svarog
          ...... there were many shortcomings in the USSR, but this does not mean that today is better .. today it is actually much worse, because people don’t have confidence in the future, there is no hope .. like in hell .. give up hope everyone entering here .. The state should be suitable for the full life of all its citizens, which means that these citizens should have equal opportunities .. Now this is not and will not be under capitalism. In general, capitalism - as a form of being, in the realities of Russia will soon turn into feudalism, which will destroy everything completely ..

          Reading ideological songs and poems by Soviet authors, I see a desire to unite the people, and also ---- "the people and the party are united." Now - what? "The state --- is not obliged ..." "Pensioners can use macaroshkas .... but I do not have to pay by status", "pensions should not be paid to anyone, and medicine should be paid." Officials and a medical deputy - against the people?

          And where, besides these texts, was there unity? .... Or rather, the party was united, the people too, but only with themselves .... Although now nothing is changing, unless they say openly "the state owes you nothing" and "no money, but you hold on" ....
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 28 November 2018 19: 42
            +2
            Yes, of course, you can laugh at songs or poems, they are still preserved. But, I suppose it was, like a "declaration of intent." An ideal to which it was necessary to approach?. You say that it was not. I will not argue ---- well, I was small then. But what are the slogans and "declarations of intentions" now? --- It seems like there are none. ... the state owes nothing ...
            About songs and poems ---- there were songs about working specialties. It turns out --- declared respect for them? And now what specialty is declared respect? What specialty does the state respect?
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  3. Wened
    Wened 26 November 2018 15: 51
    -2
    The article is definitely good.
    That in the agriculture of the USSR, 27 million people are engaged in rural labor, and they cannot provide enough food for the country, and in the USA there are all 4,5 million, and they feed their whole country and there is enough food assistance.

    “Why Russia is not America” is a book by Russian publicist, Colonel of the Federal Border Service Andrei Petrovich Parshev, published in 1999. In those days there was no one to systematize all knowledge in the fields of economics, geography, meteorology.

    as always, there was a polemic about Comrade Stalin, and all this would be fine. After all, we are discussing the historical crown-bearers - from Cyrus to Caligula and from Heliogabal to Robespierre, and others. Why not? On the contrary, any public discussion is useful because it allows you to identify the facets of human ignorance and the degree of mythologization of society. And here, alas, miracles just come to light.


    And here, alas, miracles just come to light.......

    What other miracles, modern myth-making, are in no way inferior to the primitive.
    But about the brink of ignorance, they are limitless, only the lazy now did not talk about it.
  4. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 26 November 2018 15: 55
    +23
    So far, I cannot say where the author is leading ... However, as a person working in an opk, I can say with confidence that despite the alleged "craze of workers with alcohol," the most valuable engineers were obtained from them, if the latter entered a university. Just the kids who came and come now as engineers are complete, in most cases, zeros.
    By the way, this is the scourge of modern enterprises. Considering our semi-Asian form of corporate culture, when every dad, friend, godfather, matchmaker, etc., seeks to smuggle "his own" into the enterprise by any means and stir up his clan in production with all that it implies (and it doesn't even matter that "ours" are not even close to specialized education), we end up with corruption and incompetence.
    Therefore, I think that you should not try to be ironic on this topic.
    As a person who has worked as a milling machine operator for 15 years, I can say with confidence that the working conditions at the plant do not in any way contribute to the emergence of craving for "beautiful". This is very difficult business
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 21
      -11
      Well, how so? Really, for 70 years of the USSR, we have not been able to get rid of the semi-Asian corporate culture, as you put it?
      Or maybe, under the Soviet regime, everyone was like people, and now under the new Russia, all of a sudden they suddenly ceased to be them?
      1. kakvastam
        kakvastam 26 November 2018 16: 34
        +7
        Are you so young that you know nothing about the struggle against nepotism and other nepotism?
        People have not changed, that's just the restrictions are reduced, they turned around. A stimulus reaction, and nothing else.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 47
          -2
          So I’m talking about this to you. Despite all efforts, for the whole struggle, the education system and so on - the result is such as outside.
          Means what? right. The chosen methods of work turned out to be worthless. Well, it's elementary.
          And now we are again offered to read Marx and Lenin, because "everything is written there" to break everything and start building anew.
          So then, for all 70 years, all this was written. But there is no result.
          Could it be more closely to try to deal with this issue?
          In short, a new Lenin is needed for the new USSR. Not the one that 100 years ago. Well, or not quite that one.
          1. kakvastam
            kakvastam 26 November 2018 16: 54
            0
            Quote: Mestny
            And now they offer us again

            Not aware of this.
            But the fact that the intervals between catastrophes (and the social explosion doesn’t even smell of it anymore) are reduced, it is a little annoying. I really want to hope that we are just lucky with effective managers and their partners, and not time is accelerating ...
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 26 November 2018 17: 05
              0
              Not aware of this.

              Well, what about? Relevant sites and media the whole army.
              Only some tell ideal tales about "correct", liberal "like in the West" capitalism, while others tell about exactly the same ideal communism.
              But both of them offer urgently to get rid of the existing state.
              1. kakvastam
                kakvastam 26 November 2018 17: 19
                +3
                I’ve rarely looked in here lately, today I came running about the Kerch story to be enlightened ...
                And those who offer to get rid should have at least some kind of project, but I have not seen such yet.
                Basically the various habits of the pursuit of personal enrichment.
      2. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 26 November 2018 17: 48
        +8
        Oh, for 70 years?). For the whole story. Just the Communists tried to change this, at least until the 70s for sure.
        Well, then it turned out what happened.
        By the way, "Asian kk" does not mean bad. Japan is an example of this ... It's just that in modern Russia they ripped off all the worst from three systems and created a vile domestic one, where all the best of the above voiced were rejected.
  5. Alex_59
    Alex_59 26 November 2018 15: 56
    +14
    The working class is also not something static and homogeneous. At the beginning of the 60s, I don’t know, but in the 80s, among the workers there was a fairly wide stratum of highly qualified people who lived very happily and were capable of more intellectual rest than just drinking on a payday (thump, then everyone thumped, both engineers and ballerinas , but the latter differed from the hard workers and differ in that sometimes they rest differently and not always with a bottle). These workers included highly skilled locksmiths, welders, and CNC machine operators. Well, in the 60s, yes. Penza, of course, is a smaller city than Perm, in the 60s, Khrushchevkas (Perm motors) were already massively built for workers of many factories, some factories since the 50s had two-story cinder block apartment buildings with 2-3 entrances (KamKabel), built by prisoners Germans. And there were also two-story brick entrances for 3-4 entrances, a kind of mini-Khrushchev (also Perm motors). And the artillery "our everything" plant - Motovilikha, had very tasty houses in the corresponding "imperial" style with high ceilings and entrances, which for the solidity and massiveness of the doors I would like to call in St. Petersburg for the solidity and massiveness of the doors in the 40s and 50s " ceremonial ".
    But of course, there were still many private houses in the city.
    Labor productivity, as it was low, still remains. In the West, robots are already on the assembly line, as a result of which socialism will soon be built there, and we still have it there)))
  6. strizhev.serg
    strizhev.serg 26 November 2018 16: 01
    +11
    Did I understand correctly that this is written by a former member of the CPSU district committee? I would like to know where he got his party card and what party he is now in!
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 18
      +2
      He writes about his childhood memories. How was it.
      Or, depending on the presence of a membership card, you have to start violently lying?
    2. kalibr
      26 November 2018 19: 07
      +2
      Not at all, enough parties from me ... And the ticket lies somewhere in the family archive.
  7. istoler
    istoler 26 November 2018 16: 05
    +20
    What can I say, yes, the USSR was not a paradise on earth.
    Socio-economic progress does not occur in an instant at the click of a toggle switch with the coming to power of the Communists, it is a long process of construction and development. There were objective obstacles, for example, monstrous losses in people during the war, destroyed cities and burnt villages in the European territory of the country, and a low level of development at the start of 1917.
    And yet, every decade, the Soviet Union moved forward. A planned economy solved problems.
    The template comparison of the economic development figures of the USA and the USSR for frequent is simply not correct, how can you compare the country that economically rose on the blood of two world warriors and the country that suffered the most from them!
  8. Mestny
    Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 14
    +6
    Thank you, dear author. Flashed memories.
    I fully confirm.
    I really started my life a little later, about 10 years, and in our small town there were no industrial giants. But the picture as a whole is exactly the same, with additional color.
    The fathers of my childhood friends and acquaintances were just workers. They drank almost without exception, and almost every day. On pay day (which is popularly called payday), this was observed with particular brightness. Oddly enough, there were quite a few different eateries and canteens in the small town where alcohol was sold. and on the day of this "payday" one could observe crowds of women at the doors of such establishments in order to somehow save part of the money received for the family budget. Fights and loud obscenities accompanied this action. By the way, one of them, the most popular, was called "Woman's Tears". Unofficially, of course. So it was some kind of dining room there.
    Everyone worked then. All plots of land around our town were plowed by collective farms. But what is characteristic - in the shops there was nothing that went beyond bread, milk, salt. and whatever the simplest preserves, such as sprats in a tomato.
    No, from time to time, once every two weeks, they brought something, for example butter or sausage, and “threw it out” on sale. Preparing for such events began in advance - those who had acquaintances with trade workers. The rest, those who are simply equal, stood in line for many hours.
    And of course - all the amenities in the yard.
    So it’s clear that not everyone lived. Party workers, directors of enterprises and shops lived in much better conditions.
    Localism flourished, especially in small towns where everyone knows each other. That is, those who were related to the local "elite" had much more opportunities, for example, in violation of laws - "a hand washes a hand," "a raven will not peck out a crow's eyes," and so on, only an obscene form was usually spoken about this among the common population.
    At home and in private conversations, Soviet power and socialism were all bonfire on what the light stands on, comparing your standard of living and the level of leadership.
    Despite any ideological efforts, the simple hard worker did not succeed in suggesting that good food, clothing, and housing are all a myth invented by the capitalists, and that one must live for the great goal of building communism. It is clear that well-dressed well-dressed party workers broadcast about it. Perhaps that’s why it didn’t work.

    it is not worth drawing conclusions on this basis that socialism, and especially communism, is bad. Not at all.
    We just got it like this.
    And now capitalism turns out to be some kind of wrong again ...
    1. AK1972
      AK1972 27 November 2018 12: 17
      +7
      Quote: Mestny
      Party workers, directors of enterprises and shops lived in much better conditions.

      Just like you lived in a small town. Parents are teachers with salaries of 120-130 rubles. The stores are in short supply, but no one was starving. He was friends with the son of the 1st secretary of the city committee. His family lived in a 3-room apartment, they did not have a personal car. Of privileges - special. rations and the permanent absence of the father of the family at home. When I was visiting I could enjoy sandwiches with doctor sausage and Iwashi herring in wine sauce. The family of the governor did not overeat with red caviar and crabs, in contrast to some of the current zk. Compared to the current mayors and their deputies, the prosperity of the then party nomenclature looks not only pale, but generally colorless.
  9. strizhev.serg
    strizhev.serg 26 November 2018 16: 18
    +8
    In the words of the author V. Shpakovsky: "... In addition, as a lecturer of the RK CPSU, I had to constantly" improve my qualifications ", attend lectures by the instructors of the Central Committee, who periodically came to us and ... instructed - what can be said to the people, and what is not, and how best answer various tricky questions. "
    That is, now Mr. Shpakovsky, imbued with hatred of his former party, condemns its ideals and instructs all lecturers of All Russia not to use censorship. However, today, with a huge number of former communists shpakkikh, now idelogues of the so-called "United Russia", something is not heard about the deliberate robbery of a small group of attached individuals of the rest of the population, about 90% of the statistical indicators. And that this handful is led by the same former communist Putin, who at one time also instructed "what can be said to the people, and what is not, and how best to answer various tricky questions." In fact, he still does it now, only no one and, in particular, the author of the article for some reason does not notice this!
    Perhaps the author in the thirty-third part of this article will nevertheless explain his vague thought ?!
    But he already as a former communist, spitting on his former ideals, causes only contempt!
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 24
      0
      What does hate penetration have to do with it?
      He writes how it was where he lived.
      Other places could be different.
      But what does that change? The USSR then collapsed, which means that as described was enough.
      And what are the communist’s own ideals? Is it hard to lie about your own life for the sake of the political task?
      So this is the real main claim to the Communists, that of the times of the USSR, and even more so of the current ones.
      By the way, in this you all - a person who told the truth about himself - causes contempt in you. Obviously only because his stories are unlike "bast tales about the fairest country on earth."
      I myself lived like him. I fully confirm. And I’m not lying to myself, I have no question whether to trust the author or not.
    2. victor50
      victor50 26 November 2018 17: 35
      +7
      Quote: strizhev.serg
      That is, now Mr. Shpakovsky, imbued with hatred of his former party, condemns its ideals and instructs all lecturers of All Russia not to use censorship. However, today, with a huge number of former communists shpakkikh, now idelogues of the so-called "United Russia", something is not heard about the deliberate robbery of a small group of attached individuals of the rest of the population, about 90% of the statistical indicators. And that this handful is led by the same former communist Putin, who at one time also instructed "what can be said to the people, and what is not, and how best to answer various tricky questions." In fact, he still does it now, only no one and, in particular, the author of the article for some reason does not notice this!

      Well, why so ?! No matter how I would like to say that there was nothing of this, and the author came up with everything, it will not work. It was unfortunately! And almost everything is as it is written. Only ... the author somehow, although it seems to me involuntarily, laid emphasis very negatively .. I also lived at that time and almost the same, but ... for some reason I think that I had a happy childhood! Could dream, and the realization of a dream depended only on me! And then, in general, a difficult but happy life: fulfilled a dream, there was a favorite job ... Until now. What is happening now, I strongly dislike it.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 26 November 2018 20: 43
        +4
        Quote: victor50
        the author somehow, although it seems to me, unwittingly, put the accents very negatively

        The author deliberately placed the negatives. Even in a positive way.
        I especially liked the awful lacquered furniture made of chipboard, but at that time I did not know that it was awful, and considered this firewood the height of beauty and elegance.

        Interestingly, the author now has no wood chipboard at all at home?
        1. kalibr
          26 November 2018 21: 53
          +1
          Absolutely! Only natural wood - pine and alder.
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 27 November 2018 06: 59
            +7
            Quote: kalibr
            Absolutely! Only natural wood - pine and alder.
            Well, congratulations! You are now definitely not a hard worker, because the hard workers have remained with furniture from chipboard. But how pleasant it is to discuss the essence of the working class from an office furnished with natural wood. Entomologist at work right.
            1. kalibr
              27 November 2018 07: 26
              -2
              So I earned it! And to earn money, he worked well, and before that, he studied well.
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 27 November 2018 07: 33
                +6
                Quote: kalibr
                So I earned it!

                So I congratulated you! )))
                Quote: kalibr
                And to earn money, he worked well, and before that, he studied well.
                Like Chubais and Berezovsky directly, only the scope is a little less)))
                1. kalibr
                  27 November 2018 12: 29
                  -3
                  They had more opportunities because they were at the right time in the right place. Not everyone is so lucky.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 29 November 2018 05: 10
                    +4
                    Quote: kalibr
                    They had more opportunities because they were at the right time in the right place. Not everyone is so lucky.

                    It’s scary to imagine what would happen if you had this luck, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
                    1. kalibr
                      1 December 2018 17: 30
                      0
                      Yes, Dmitry is a cruiser-sized yacht, a villa in Crete and Spain, and excavations around the world where there is something to dig! And then a museum of my name, a fund for smart children and world history textbooks for a Russian school at my expense !!!
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 1 December 2018 20: 43
                        0
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Yes, Dmitry is a cruiser-sized yacht, a villa in Crete and Spain, .......! And then the museum of my name, ......!
                        And everything else that Caligula had.
                        Quote: kalibr
                        ..... fund for smart children and world history textbooks for a Russian school at my expense !!!
                        And now, what's stopping you? Unclear.....
                      2. kalibr
                        1 December 2018 22: 14
                        0
                        The lack of money interferes!
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 27 November 2018 15: 16
                +6
                Quote: kalibr
                So I earned it! And to make money, he worked well


                I won’t bear it :).
                Dear, what are the results of your good work, well, except for "birch" and "alder"?
                What did they produce, who did they learn, who did they cure, who did they protect? Maybe they created a work equivalent to world classics? Well, or something else that I didn’t remember vainly?
                1. kalibr
                  27 November 2018 19: 11
                  -3
                  Do you still not know how to use the Internet? Get in there, everything is there ... All the books, all the defenses, everything ... You can order something. And by the way, you won’t have to regret it!
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 28 November 2018 12: 50
                    +3
                    And, forgive me, of course, but I didn’t see anything comparable to "War and Peace" by Tolstoy or even to Quiet Don Sholokhov, but what do your graduates of the Department of Communication Management produce, can I ask you?
                    1. kalibr
                      28 November 2018 12: 59
                      -3
                      And that many Quiet Dons have been released? By the way, I just have an analogue of "War and Peace" but for young people - 6 volumes of the novel "Pareto's Law". Published in Germany - can also be ordered in Russia. The novel is in Russian. Russian Germans really like it! You do not have this, and millions do not have this either! Why refer to extremes and geniuses. The middle peasants are also needed.
                      And my graduates manage the company, including you!
                      1. alicante11
                        alicante11 28 November 2018 16: 00
                        +6
                        An analogue of War and Peace, and self-conceit, however, the value of a work is not measured in size.

                        Quote: kalibr
                        You don’t have that either, and millions don’t have that either!


                        You are right, of course, it wasn’t published in Germany. So, several hundred railroad workers I trained works, carries goods, provides production. But these are really the results of labor, and not entertaining, as in your case. I will not apply other epithets that are more suitable. And therefore you can’t explain that the working class, with all its poverty and drunkenness and lack of culture, is much more necessary and important than you. Because they produce something. The problem of our time is that those who produce poorly live in it, and those who parasitize are good.

                        Quote: kalibr
                        And my graduates manage the company, including you!


                        That is why we live in such a way that trained parasites control us parasites :).
                      2. kalibr
                        29 November 2018 18: 25
                        -2
                        Manage yourself, who is in the way!
                      3. alicante11
                        alicante11 30 November 2018 12: 38
                        +2
                        Well, so are you and your graduates. They govern, and you teach to live.
                      4. kalibr
                        1 December 2018 17: 30
                        0
                        Yes, you can’t beat a whip with a whip!
                      5. Cottodraton
                        Cottodraton 6 December 2018 12: 58
                        0
                        It can be seen. This is worth it and finish ....
                        Quote: And my graduates manage the society, including you
                        And that many Quiet Dons have been released? By the way, I just have an analogue of "War and Peace" but for young people - 6 volumes of the novel "Pareto's Law". Published in Germany - can also be ordered in Russia. The novel is in Russian. Russian Germans really like it! You do not have this, and millions do not have this either! Why refer to extremes and geniuses. The middle peasants are also needed.
                        And my graduates manage the company, including you!
                    2. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 29 November 2018 05: 02
                      +1
                      Quote: alicante11
                      And, forgive me, of course, but I didn’t see anything comparable to "War and Peace" by Tolstoy or even to Quiet Don Sholokhov, ...
                      Well, you just didn’t see it, dear, sorry that I’m getting in, but you can quickly rewrite these novels with the necessary %%%%%% changes ---- and you're done !!!!!!
                      And you can also rewrite the novels of Henri Charrier and ..... Pyotr Krasnov !!!!!!
                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 1 December 2018 20: 51
                  0
                  Quote: alicante11
                  Quote: kalibr
                  So I earned it! And to make money, he worked well


                  I won’t bear it :).
                  Dear, what are the results of your good work, well, except for "birch" and "alder"?
                  What did they produce, who did they learn, who did they cure, who did they protect? Maybe they created a work equivalent to world classics? ......
                  As for the birch and alder, you can think about ..... There are in the advertising and sale of such kits as a library or office from natural breeds. Then what is a new apartment? And if the former, Soviet, was there talk of cardboard boxes, and birch and alder are a small cabinet? Or 2 lockers? But still oak is better, and if the birch is then Karelian .....
  10. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 26 November 2018 16: 35
    +16
    "We all left the people
    How can we get back there ?! "

    That was the grief of the USSR. Every bug, which had a tiny chance, strove to break out from here. From the people. Take some special position. Though on the hair, but special! This was best done by the functionaries of the CPSU.
    Alas, the technology of relationships and life in a huge country making a project that has never happened in history has simply failed to be established. Instead of thinking how exactly we should live and win all together, a lot of people rushed to pluck out a scrap for themselves. Diligently inflating cheeks ....
    I was the son of a nomenclature worker. True, my father was strange for the nomenclature ... but that's not the point. But my brother and I never saw ourselves apart from the people. And they did not separate themselves from their father’s friends and colleagues, nor from the working children among whom they lived and with whom they worked together. My brother after school first went to a construction site, then to college. And at the construction site, he was not in charge of ideology).
    I entered the institute right away, but I plowed all my studies where I had to, and after graduation, at my CHP I started working as an ash-breeder. Because there were bosses, but there were not enough ash-breeders ... Then a locksmith, then a boiler driver, a turbine driver. I worked like that for five years, and you know what? A working man has never seemed mysterious to me and in some ways is not equal to me. Then I became the boss, so what? I never got "exalted". It's not mine. I cannot "rise" above people because I was born more correctly or studied better.
    But many, very many can. And they gnaw this "elevation" with their teeth, not disdaining anything. Yearning...
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 53
      -1
      And the casket just opened - people in spite of everything still want to eat, dress, and live under a reliable roof. No theories about a better life will last for a long time while they stand in lines and go to the toilet in the winter.
      How could it happen that, for example, in the early 80s, electricity was absent in some non-black soil villages. I myself have personally witnessed this, how at the end of 1981 the same electricity was supplied to the villages.
      How, what kind of builder of communism did you plan to raise if he lived in a peasant hut with a kerosene lamp in 1980?
      1. kakvastam
        kakvastam 26 November 2018 17: 23
        +9
        The problem was not that people lived poorly, but that they saw who was living well and made conclusions ...
        “Once you have lied, who will believe you?”
        This, incidentally, will destroy the current government in the end.
      2. victor50
        victor50 26 November 2018 17: 41
        +10
        Quote: Mestny
        How could it happen that, for example, in the early 80s, electricity was absent in some non-black soil villages. I myself have personally witnessed this, how at the end of 1981 the same electricity was supplied to the villages.
        How, what kind of builder of communism did you plan to raise if he lived in a peasant hut with a kerosene lamp in 1980?

        You have a holiday today! That's how lucky it is!
        I also lived under a kerosene lamp, and I knew no conveniences except on the street before the army. But the dreams were not about that, but I wanted something big, etc. But, of course, electricity and amenities in the apartment! But it was not about them that they thought and dreamed! Do you catch the difference? Sorry if you spoiled your holiday a little! wink
      3. Amper
        Amper 26 November 2018 20: 18
        +10
        Modern Russia suffers the same, only to an even greater extent. It makes no sense to conduct electricity in a huge number of disappeared and endangered villages, villages, cities. It’s terrible to go to the area and see the ruins of cattle yards, farms, granaries, mechanical workshops, as after the war, ...
        Electricity becomes unnecessary to the extent that under the Soviet regime. There is no production, no electricity, steam .... power plants ....., engineers, skilled workers, and pensioners are out of the question.
        1. Dimy4
          Dimy4 27 November 2018 08: 22
          +8
          Directly to the point, there is a tepuha of 400 kVA and feeds three or four houses left from the village where there were once collective farm facilities. Nobody is needed now. Even the sawmills, like mushrooms grown in the nineties, in the buildings of former farms, were closed because the whole forest was cut. The sad picture.
  11. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 26 November 2018 16: 36
    +8
    Against the background of the statements of officials "you do not know how to earn!"

    "These people do not know how to make money at all. It's simple. I worked from the institute for my father in the service in management. As a courier. And then at his company as a director. And then he joined one party and went through the list."
    My wife is talented. Itself created a construction company from a loss-making one. Won tenders from the city. He gets a lot more than me.
    And the children are talented, get a good education. My daughter sings, she recorded the third track with Timati, it’s only expensive, but then it will pay off.
    The son of stationery sells. To all the schools of our city, well done!
    And what about these? Well .. themselves can not lift. "
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 26 November 2018 16: 55
      -4
      This is under the oligarchic unjust power.
      And under the USSR, in order to make money like this, one had to become either a trade director, or some other swindler.
      But your family would have a Zhiguli car. bought it is understandable for unearned income.
      1. Amper
        Amper 26 November 2018 20: 28
        +8
        And there would be confidence in the future. That you will not be kicked out of your home, that you are always guaranteed a job in the specialty, free education for your children, free medical care and a guaranteed pension for which you can live comfortably.
        And that you are a descendant of the dynasty of Soviet people, and not a scumbag to the elbow in the blood, and now oligarch KhA, for which everyone else is rogue.
        If having a car is the height of the human dream and the meaning of life, I feel sorry for you ..
        If there are many, then your country has a direct path to capitalism! And let the strongest of you trample all!
        Have a good mood!
    2. ved_med12
      ved_med12 26 November 2018 17: 35
      +8
      Excuse me! Question. Have you now described the average Russian family of four (parents +2 children)?
      With a wife sitting in maternity with a second child. With a bunch of loans; for cars, furniture, a TV, a smartphone for an older child of a first-grader ... Debt on exorbitant communal apartment. And a mortgage for twenty years?
      YESAAAAA! we began to live better !!!!
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 27 November 2018 10: 40
      0
      vladimirvn! You are raving.
  12. BAI
    BAI 26 November 2018 17: 19
    +5
    I must say that in the USSR there were different workers. Here we have a city divided into neighborhoods. Each has its own district-forming enterprise. We have research institutes and pilot production - many people with higher education and some kind of intelligent workers, there was no drunkenness, but they paid for everything with alcohol.
    Another area is around the Brick Factory. Around the ruin, the population - a huge number of alcoholics.
    It seems to me a sign of what the district and the working class of the district-forming enterprise are - housing construction.
    There is housing construction at the expense of the enterprise - all around are solid intellectuals. No construction - drunkenness.
    1. kalibr
      26 November 2018 19: 21
      -1
      Not always. We have the city of Zarechny near Penza. Where in the 60s they made warheads for missiles from nuclear submarines. Even taking pictures in that direction was impossible! It was happiness to live in Zarechny! Moscow supply !!! The level of higher education was off scale. But the 90s came. Supply was leveled, the plant was redesigned and ... by 2000 the city took first place in drunkenness and AIDS. I know his problems very well, because that year I was invited there to the mayor's office to do PR for them in order to raise the image and prestige ... So "intellectuals around" can also drink black ... And it has nothing to do with home. There was another reason ...
  13. Mcar
    Mcar 26 November 2018 17: 46
    +1
    But talking about the working class would clearly not hurt, since here in the minds of many attending VO there is simply complete confusion and vacillation.

    It would be interesting to read, so that confusion would transform into slender ranks, and wobble into an unshakable firmament. Moreover, the author knows about the working class from within. Not that some - "if they saw it, it was only in those cases when they came to this or that plant to lecture them on the line of the RK CPSU."

    Then, at school, I found out that 40 thousand people worked at the factory.

    It is a pity that the author did not immediately "jump ahead" and did not tell how many people work there now. And is that plant even alive?
    1. kalibr
      26 November 2018 19: 13
      0
      The plant died, as there are pictures after the atomic bomb hits the Web ...
      1. Mcar
        Mcar 26 November 2018 19: 18
        0
        Quote: kalibr
        The plant died, as after an atomic bomb hit ...

        Long live our capitalism, the most inhuman capitalism in the world!
        1. kalibr
          26 November 2018 19: 23
          0
          But Penza is now the first in the country in terms of the number of tailoring workshops for outerwear. We supply even Kazakhstan, in Blagoveshchensk they sell our collection ...
          1. Mcar
            Mcar 26 November 2018 19: 45
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            But Penza is now the first in the country in terms of the number of tailoring workshops for outerwear.

            I hope from domestic fabrics?

            And here, some unconscious claim that in the first 15 years of the century of automation and electronics, the Russian Federation increased the production of fabrics by the same amount as the RSFSR for the first post-war five-year period.
            1. kalibr
              26 November 2018 22: 01
              -2
              I don't know about fabrics. After all, I only write about what I know, but I know from where I am invited for ... consultations. That is, into the "bottlenecks" ... schools for children "not simple", enterprises that need very good specialists and PR. Well, they confess to me, as in confession, who, where ... You can tell about something ... Do you remember the story about the Wendel helmets at the summer camp?
  14. kalibr
    26 November 2018 19: 12
    +1
    Quote: Mikhail3
    I cannot "rise" above people because I was born more correctly or studied better.
    But many, very many can. And they gnaw this "elevation" with their teeth, not disdaining anything. Yearning...

    You said that very well ...
  15. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 26 November 2018 19: 47
    +5
    In the future, not "Paradise" from our "non-guarantee", but 9 circles of "hell" under the control of "defective managers".
  16. Yura
    Yura 26 November 2018 19: 51
    +5
    After reading your article, Vyacheslav, I froze for twenty minutes, maybe less, maybe I don’t know anymore. Everything from my childhood, too, the only thing - I remained a worker, I was also a collective farmer, then again a worker, I have no regrets about anything and I know the truth. Write further about this and the same. By the way, I also wore the same harem pants, many adults of that time, too, some while they were new they were almost a weekend.
    1. kalibr
      28 November 2018 19: 46
      0
      Can I use your comment as a quote?
      1. Yura
        Yura 28 November 2018 20: 43
        0
        Quote: kalibr
        Can I use your comment as a quote?

        You can, no question.
        1. kalibr
          29 November 2018 18: 22
          0
          Thank! Grateful.
  17. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 26 November 2018 20: 21
    +3
    And what could you offer?

    - But what can I offer ... And they write, they write ... Congress, some Germans ... My head swells. Take it all and divide (s)
    Classic however ...

    I graduated from school in 1981, I was only 16 years old and entered the institute, which I successfully dropped out after 1 semester at the same 16 years and went to work.
    But I left the institute ... I told the rector that I consider the history of the CPSU to be absolutely unnecessary discipline, especially to me, the future mining engineer, because in the technical process, she gave me a stop signal like a hare ..... The poor rector didn’t meet Kondraty , the more so since I said this not in a private conversation, but at a lecture ...
    Well, for a complete set, I walked through the Tselina and the Renaissance ... I did not touch the Small Earth, all the whole people participated, and this is true patriotism and heroism ...
    And grandfather Brezhnev was still alive and well ...
    Oh well ... distracted ...
    So they gave me a mentor, an experienced electrician, and he, out of me, a 16-year-old goldfinch, for some year did what the institute could not have done. Practice and theory are only good in a collaborative process.
    And with us, at the state. level, as at the household, there are only theories. Well, of course, the debate ...
    Once again I reread Mikhail Evgrafovich, and with emotion and irritation I ascertain that the Original Ros is still alive, only with a kick from the outside we make a jerk, and then again we sleep peacefully in the swamp ...
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 26 November 2018 21: 22
      +5
      In general, there was a dualistic, or as is customary here, recently, binary dysfunction ...
      The kitchen expanded to the size of an Internet, but narrowed to a monitor ...
      1. Yura
        Yura 26 November 2018 23: 09
        0
        Quote: Ace of Diamonds
        The kitchen has expanded to the size of an Internet,

        Which is also good, in the kitchen the conversation is confidential and frank.
        Quote: Ace of Diamonds
        but narrowed to the scope of the monitor ...

        And this is a waste of time.
  18. Tochilka
    Tochilka 26 November 2018 23: 35
    +2
    I liked the article, I look forward to continuing.
    The comments under it are mostly informative as well.
    1. kalibr
      27 November 2018 07: 18
      -4
      Not everyone, however. Some simply wrote "headache".
  19. Ehanatone
    Ehanatone 27 November 2018 01: 21
    +9
    Caliber, Shit, Kavastam - you fso fret,!
    To its end, the USSR has never come naturally:
    Of course, a student at a party school might not have been aware of a 3% increase in GDP in the USSR ...
    Of course, how should he reserve to know about the collapse of stock quotes in the eighties, as a regular periodic process in the capsystem, which was saved at that time by the sacking of the economies of the socialist camp ...
    And of course, he could not know about the work of a certain comrade Stalin who said (and not only said, but in every possible way confirmed) that socialism is not a frozen monument, but requires (like any teaching) constant development, reconciliation with life,. ..
    That the subsequent reformers safely hre ..
    And most importantly, sometime a direct successor to the Kukuruznik case will appear in the funeral of socialism, and not even one ..., was not built into the system of protection against betrayal at the highest level ...
    Of course, and how should reserve Shpakovsky, a simple student of party courses, know about this - but he can prove with the pictures that the pants are not the same, and the toilets are not in order, and there are no chewing gum, chewing gum, and ...
    yes, yes of course jeans and ...
    chewing gum ...
    Like everything, as always, in Hebrew finely, semi-cavernously and wretchedly ...
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 27 November 2018 01: 34
      0
      Well ... and then the poor fellow Jews got .... lol
    2. kalibr
      27 November 2018 07: 17
      -2
      There is nothing more stupid than evaluating a person by last name ... And if he changed it?
  20. Ehanatone
    Ehanatone 27 November 2018 01: 31
    +5
    And there was no buss!
    Yes, yes there were not enough glass bushes!
    ... so lacked glass buss ...
  21. Ehanatone
    Ehanatone 27 November 2018 01: 36
    +2
    Again deleted the comment,
    weird ...
    But in it there was, as usual, neither a mat, nor inciting ethnic hatred, nor the propaganda of Yegol ...
  22. nikvic46
    nikvic46 27 November 2018 08: 44
    +1
    I approximately know what the author leads to, but for the time being I will refrain from commenting. Let's wait.
  23. nikvic46
    nikvic46 27 November 2018 08: 51
    +1
    I have only one question. What is the CPSU RK?
    1. BAI
      BAI 27 November 2018 09: 44
      +1
      District Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 28 November 2018 08: 01
        0
        Thank you. And then I thought about the Russian Communist Party, which did not exist.
  24. akunin
    akunin 27 November 2018 10: 19
    +2
    somewhere these memories already slipped from a year ago. and not much there about the working class, but more about the formation of the author against the background of the working class.
  25. NordUral
    NordUral 27 November 2018 10: 29
    +1
    Food was prepared in the summer on a primus in the entrance hall, and in the winter on the stove. Usually it was cabbage soup and fried potatoes. And that’s all! Yes, on the walls under the wallpaper they periodically had small red bugs (I did not know that these were bedbugs), but when I told them about them at home, I was strictly forbidden to go there.
    I don’t even know how to answer this.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 14 December 2018 03: 23
      0
      Quote: NordUral
      Food was prepared in the summer on a primus in the entrance hall, and in the winter on the stove. Usually it was cabbage soup and fried potatoes. And that’s all! Yes, on the walls under the wallpaper they periodically had small red bugs (I did not know that these were bedbugs), but when I told them about them at home, I was strictly forbidden to go there.
      I don’t even know how to answer this.
      And I know ---- it's just some kind of horror.
  26. wooja
    wooja 27 November 2018 10: 43
    +2
    It is unclear what the author wanted to tell us, well, that being in the Soviet era was not camilpho and how parents knew about this, everyone wanted office plankton, then he lived in research institutes and design bureaus, Soviets and Party committees ..., manual labor and performance...? author zhzhot !!!!!! With all the senility of the Soviet leadership, manual labor and low productivity were specially supported, the unemployed countries were not needed, people just needed to be occupied, this form of social policy, another question is that the country's leadership was afraid of any sudden movements, as a result, they reached the collapse of the country, although all conditions for the normal development of the country were. Labor productivity is ridiculous, the system as a whole was efficient enough to offset the difference in these productivity.
  27. iouris
    iouris 27 November 2018 11: 49
    +4
    The dictatorship of the oligarchic raw material comprador bourgeoisie destroyed the working class as a class. Her gravedigger is "generation next".
  28. sabakina
    sabakina 27 November 2018 18: 13
    +3
    Mdya, with a handwriting, the lecturer of the RK CPSU was clearly not lucky. What did he do in two universities? recourse
    1. kalibr
      27 November 2018 19: 01
      -1
      For myself, I wrote in a hurry ... But handwriting is taught in elementary school, in the sun they teach different!
  29. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 28 November 2018 14: 58
    +2
    Quote: kalibr
    And that many Quiet Dons have been released? By the way, I just have an analogue of "War and Peace" but for young people - 6 volumes of the novel "Pareto's Law". Published in Germany - can also be ordered in Russia. The novel is in Russian. Russian Germans really like it! .....
    And my graduates manage the company, including you!
    And what about your students, managers .... What is it? Is it really V.V. Putin and D.A. Medvedev?
    Compare "Pareto's Law" with "Quiet Don" and "War and Peace" ------ somehow it's even incomparable. I don't think that in 10 years who would know about these 6 volumes. Although, it seems, their today's price is something like 30000 or 40000 rubles? How did you say ---- white devils? ... Like
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 December 2018 23: 21
      0
      All the time, the question is, everywhere everywhere is public relations, PR specialists ..... Navalny, for example ....... And what about the general?
  30. kalibr
    28 November 2018 19: 41
    -1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Compare "Pareto's Law" with "Quiet Don" and "War and Peace" ------ somehow it is even incomparable

    Read it first ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 29 November 2018 04: 55
      +2
      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Compare "Pareto's Law" with "Quiet Don" and "War and Peace" ------ somehow it is even incomparable

      Read it first ...
      What for? What is there that Tolstoy did not say, Sholokhov, finally, Anri Sharriere in his Motylka, as well as Krasnov in his book "Mantyk. The Lion Hunter". Better 40000 rubles for what else to spend., Because I read Sharyer and Krasnova for free.
      1. kalibr
        29 November 2018 07: 20
        -1
        It’s also true ... There is nothing ...
  31. hohol95
    hohol95 28 November 2018 23: 11
    +2
    That in the agriculture of the USSR, 27 million people are engaged in rural labor, and they cannot provide enough food for the country, and in the USA there are all 4,5 million, and they feed their whole country and there is enough food assistance.

    4,5 million Americans in agriculture in total or WITHOUT hired workers from Mexico?
    And the illegal immigrants employed in field work in the US considered?
    1. kalibr
      29 November 2018 07: 20
      0
      I don’t know how they believed in the Central Committee of the CPSU that they gave, then wrote down.
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 29 November 2018 19: 23
        +1
        That's the whole point!
        And the Americans themselves do not advertise the relationship between agricultural producers and their "laborers". In addition, the main agricultural products in the USA are not small or medium farmers, but large CORPORATIONS! They put their main emphasis on GMOs and agricultural chemicals!
        $ 1 invested in agricultural chemistry gives a profit of $ 4!
        And growing GM plants also increases the profits of these corporations.
        1. kalibr
          2 December 2018 08: 09
          0
          It was in 1985 year!
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 2 December 2018 18: 55
            +2
            Did chemical plant protection products appear after 1985?
            Or weren't American agricultural corporations engaged in "plant breeding" in their understanding?
            Or did the same migrant workers in the USA appear after 1985?
            But in those days, the Americans kept their agricultural programs and research a secret!
            1. kalibr
              3 December 2018 19: 33
              -2
              Once again: what I was told, then wrote down.
              1. hohol95
                hohol95 3 December 2018 22: 41
                0
                They told me the same thing, once they said that in the USA Negroes lynched. But I myself did not see this ...
      2. sunzhenets
        sunzhenets 4 December 2018 10: 56
        +1
        And this was such an interesting counting technique. In agriculture, the USSR took into account a nurse, directors of a recreation center, an electrician — they are also members of a collective farm. In US agriculture, only those directly working in fields, farms, etc.
  32. brdm
    brdm 30 November 2018 18: 58
    +1
    Article Class! Well done! Write more! Vitally. No drifts. good
  33. kalibr
    3 December 2018 19: 32
    -2
    Quote: Reptiloid
    but you can quickly rewrite these novels with the necessary %%%%% changes ---- and, done !!!!!!

    Try it!
  34. kalibr
    3 December 2018 19: 35
    -2
    Quote: Reptiloid
    I don’t think that in years through 10 who would know about these 6 volumes. Although, it seems, their current price is something like 30000 or 40000 rubles?

    I don’t care what will happen in 10 years! It matters to me 30000 or 40000 now!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 December 2018 23: 04
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: Reptiloid
      I don’t think in 10 years who would know about these 6 volumes.?

      What is interesting is ---- earlier, if you write your name in the OZONE search engine - a whole page of your books comes out, or even two ---- books available for sale + missing, including 6 volumes of the Pareto Law.
      Now what? I poke a finger for a whole week ---- the result is terrible! 4 available books ---- that's all! Even the Pareto law is not a single volume, and was not like something
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 December 2018 23: 08
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      ..... It’s important to me 30000 or 40000 now!
      Me too! Therefore, I will leave them in my pocket, and not in someone else's!
  35. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 4 December 2018 10: 51
    +3
    What else did I know about workers at the time? That periodically they get drunk and drunk wallow under the fence.

    Then, already in the fifth grade, when I was too lazy to study properly, since my mother was in graduate school in Moscow, she explained to me that it’s my duty to study well and not “you will become a worker, that’s how Sashkin and Zhenkin’s father are ...” And then I was told that if you only become a worker and come after the first payday drunk and dressed up, “I will tear you from my heart and I will not have a son!”

    All this time I even saw workers, it was only in those cases when I came to a particular factory to give them lectures on the line of the CPSU RK.

    Those. Since childhood, the author despises the worker. He was brought up like that. At the same time, he joins the CPSU and makes a career along the party line ("The party exists for the people and serves the people" - from the CPSU Charter). He did not work in production. And now he will tell us about the working class, which he does not know and considers cattle.
    1. kalibr
      5 December 2018 08: 12
      -3
      Big seen in the distance ...
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 10 December 2018 18: 16
      +1
      Does not know and considers cattle, speak? Maybe. These are the traits of liberalism that have appeared more and more since the 90s. But to not know is not the worst. There may be a theory that all workers are guilty of something, for example, they necessarily drink and vomit, which means they must be subjected one way or another. Actually, the author does not treat the peasantry better.
  36. EvilLion
    EvilLion 31 December 2018 08: 16
    0
    That in the agriculture of the USSR, 27 million people are engaged in rural labor, and they cannot provide enough food for the country, and in the USA there are all 4,5 million, and they feed their whole country and there is enough food assistance.


    It’s easy to open any directory, and it will become clear that in the USA and the USSR at its end, the level of urbanization is about the same. Now in the USA it has reached 82%, which gives 50 + million rural population. Maybe, of course, the author considered the entire rural population in the USSR, and in the USA only men of working age, which are about 25% of the population.