The timing of the repair of the BPC Admiral Chebanenko is again shifted to the right

The terms of the repair of the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Chabanenko are shifted to the right again. According to Interfax, citing an informed source in the shipbuilding industry, the reason for the shift was once again the lack of funding.

According to the source of the publication, the lack of funds to repair the ship forced to move the deadline for its delivery the fleet for the year 2022-2023. At present, BOD is located at the 35th ship repair plant - a branch of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center, where it was delivered for repair and modernization in April 2014. It was assumed that the ship would be handed over to the fleet in 2016, then the delivery of the fleet was shifted to 2017, then still to the right, and now it is announced about 22-23 years.

"Admiral Chabanenko" - a large anti-submarine ship (BOD) Ave 1155.1, developed by the Northern PKB under the leadership of V.P. Mishina The board number is 650. Named in honor of the Soviet admiral Andrei Chabanenko. Designed to solve the tasks of fighting the underwater and surface forces of the enemy, air defense, support the landing of their landings, and is able to act as part of the naval formation, and autonomously. Laid at the Yantar Baltic Shipbuilding Plant (Kaliningrad) in 1990 year, from which the stocks were lowered in 1992 year.

Displacement 7,4 thousand tons, length - more than 163 meters, width - 19 meters. Travel speed - up to 30 nodes. The range of navigation BOD - 3 thousand miles, autonomy - 30 days.

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[The leader of the Redskins]

Unfortunately, recently this trend has been growing ....

[Borik]

Money, money, and again money. The country does not have them, but our oligarchs do. Each with a billion and all no problems with financing the program for repair and modernization of ships.

[gunnerminer]

Not only money, but also skilled workers at the SRZ-35 are not complete.

[Machito]

There is money to buy US bonds.
There is no money to repair the BOD.

[Bull Terrier]

there is only the required minimum of 14 yards and then to secure contracts.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Bearded

There is money to buy US bonds.
There is no money to repair the BOD.

Well, you’re directly waxing against the sacred!)

[Ru_Na]

Sense of money if you do not have skilled workers and lack of necessary equipment.

[flicker]

Sense of money if you do not have skilled workers

Yes, there is really a shortage of skilled workers and money does not always help. Now there is even an expression "to fill the problem with money", which, by the way, is also lacking. As a result, there is no money, but the problem remains the same.

[spektr9]

Sense of money if you do not have skilled workers and lack of necessary equipment

And where would they come from if the first to pay is not hunting, but the production of the second is expensive to build?

[Alex777]

To begin with, which turbines are on Chabanenko. Then we ask where to get them. And after that we will understand that financing what is not yet done is pointless.

[Е2 - Е4]

another question is why they stopped making TURBINES ??? Who is responsible for this, but what about the turbines. production in the country is generally NOT !!! There was only one hope, CARTOONS on TV

[max702]

Quote: Borik

Money, money, and again money. The country does not have them

The budget surplus is equal to the budget itself .. There is no money, yeah ..

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The budget itself in Russia was in the expenditure side of 16 trillion rubles, and the surplus was supposed to be about 2 trillion rubles. That is, no matter how equal to the budget ...

In addition, over the past two weeks, oil from $ 80 fell to 65 and will continue to fall ...

Let's lay a dozen destroyers, and then when the oil goes below $ 40, we will decide what to do with them ...

[Е2 - Е4]

no what nonsense, sawed our all

[Samaks]

The news was infa that 2018 would end with a surplus of almost 2 trillion ... One could allocate funds, especially since the situation in the Navy is simple !!!!!

[d1975]

Who told you that the country does not have them? Everything is and always is, the reason is that if the budget is small, any official will turn around and do everything to steal or make another budget. Is it all about money? Worker gets a penny, looking a million, where the money comes from - Zin. However, as always and not only in this matter. Well, what to shout cheers or is it all gone? AND? This mess is called in Russian and the point.

[Gorjelin]

From each for a billion

oligarchs can take offense and transfer money back to London.
and full of money, but the liberal course does not imply investments in its economy

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Enough to carry nonsense already, about the oligarchs in Russia ... All companies in Russia pay taxes, the assets of most of the so-called oligarchs are shares in the company (stock), not everyone has billions in cash, and these companies often still have obligations .. .

Example Zyuzin owns 55% of Mechel, the company is worth 54 billion rubles in total, and it has more than 400 billion rubles in debt ...

At the same time, for 2017, for example, the company paid taxes of about 11 billion rubles ...

Gazprom and Rosneft paid taxes on about 3 trillion rubles - this is 20% of all revenues to the federal budget ...

Few? What do you offer? Nationalization? And who will manage all this? You? How is it in the USSR? Let me remind you that under the USSR they sold oil, gas, metals, timber, and also ate gold reserves from 2400 tons under Stalin to about 100 tons under Gorbachev (gold was also mined in the USSR for its entire period and this was also driven over a hill) and they took loans from the West so that they could buy grain with detergent from the West with this money, and by the end of the 80s they had collapsed a hungry country, debts and a bunch of armed conflicts on the outskirts of Russia ...

The country has a market economy and there is no need to duplicate silly slogans on various social networks and communities.

The problem of our industry is not in the oligarchs, but in the other - our production is not developed, just go to a hardware store and find a Russian tool - a screwdriver, loops, chainsaws, etc. (about household appliances and say nothing). All imported. That is the problem. And take the German BOSCH everything does from a nail to spare parts for cars ...

Production must be developed, on the part of the state - privileges for the first time, on the part of business and private investors - money and organization of production of all necessary ...

There will be production in Germany, France, the USA — we will have everything else as well, but we won’t go far with oil alone, there are 25 years of proven oil reserves in Russia, and God forbid that there should be enough production to cover domestic needs, sell there will definitely be nothing ...

And today oil is 150 billion dollars of export, from 450 billion dollars of all Russian exports ...

[Е2 - Е4]

it is good for you to introduce people to harlot. This is what you think all companies pay taxes

The Ministry of Finance and Rosneft have agreed on a tax on mineral extraction tax (MET) for the Samotlor field, the joint statement said. According to the agreement, the annual severance tax for the oil company will be 350 billion rubles

This is only from one field and ONE Company, Show more how Gazprom pays ??? What are the salaries in state corporations?

The State Duma adopted a law on tax incentives for Rosneft and Gazprom projects

Is that how they pay TAX ????

[dvina71]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Unfortunately, recently this trend has been growing ....

What ..? Use OBS services?
"Chabanenko" was put up for renovation in 14th year in 14th year. The repair period is 3 years .. But then they decided to modernize it. With the replacement of the strike complex and the modernization of the air defense ..

However, from the tender documentation of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center, posted on the zakupki.gov portal, it follows that the ship's downtime will drag on for several more years. "Zvezdochka" ordered the St. Petersburg "Severny PKB" "to carry out design work to provide for individual modernization work during the repair period with the extension of the overhaul period." The work concerns "order 11551 serial No. s-121". Previously, Zvezdochka carried out purchases related to the repair of this order. From open sources it follows that it is precisely about "Admiral Chabanenko". Severnoye PKB received the order as the sole supplier. The lack of competition is due to the fact that the ship was built according to the Severny PKB project, and all drawings concerning the product are kept in this design bureau. The design work must be transferred to the plant by December 31, 2019; Zvezdochka will pay 726 million rubles for the work.

That's all..

[alexmach]

Sadly .. they would all, "Chabanenko" and the rest of the 1155 BDKs would have to be modernized more seriously than planned, with the replacement of weapons systems ...

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

What, they spent all the money on the mundial, that would hang out beautifully, but not enough for the boat, sadly

[Conservative]

Russia has almost recaptured the costs. And this was the first World Cup that was interesting to me. It was a good holiday

“Our championship is the most expensive in terms of organization. It brought Russia more than 850 billion rubles, which is about 1 percent of GDP. Based on the amounts, we almost completely covered the costs of hosting the World Cup,” the ATOR director noted.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Conservative

He brought Russia more than 850 billion rubles, which is about 1 percent of GDP

Where are they, you can ask?
Sorry, they’re frankly blowing in your ears, and you’re glad

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

In economics!!! This money was received in the form of revenue from hotels, shops, airlines, taxi drivers and the stadiums themselves, the budget in the form of taxes, and not only 8 stadiums were built on the money spent, but several cities were thoroughly landscaped. This World Cup was a truly sporting event for many people and not only in Russia.

[snake]

The terms of the repair of the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Chabanenko are shifted to the right again. According to Interfax, citing an informed source in the shipbuilding industry, the reason for the shift was once again the lack of funding.

There are finances for the laser and the "wall" for the National Guard, but not for the ship? Well, of course, you can't shoot at the protesters from the ship, you can hook the guards.

[Bull Terrier]

Can you imagine the difference in the cost of the ship and repair with modernization?

[snake]

I can't imagine, but 65 million on lasers, a few more on the "walls", if you buy cabbage for the National Guard in Ashan, it will also be a healthy increase. In this way, you can pick up the BOD for repair.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Well, of course, you won’t shoot at the protesters from the ship, you can hook the guardsmen.

What nonsense are you talking about?

[gunnerminer]

A beautiful photo. The Rostin bathhouse stands out especially, on the right, is a bright two-story building. The BOD is desperately needed to ensure PLO on KSF.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: gunnerminer

BOD is desperately needed to ensure the PLO at KSF.

It was an answer in the style of Bader - very weighty and half a meter past. ©
However, what else to expect ...
1155.1 is a BOD in name only. In fact, he is an EM URO, a "gas turbine brother" of pr. 956 - with "mosquitoes" and AK-130, but without PLUR.

[gunnerminer]

Neither the destroyer, nor the BOD in the coming years, the Commander of the KSF will not receive. Although with PLUR, even without PLUR. We must plug the PLO into the PLO, and as soon as possible.

[Piramidon]

It would be better if the deadlines were not voiced at all. They would write simply - they are being repaired, the process is going on. And after 10 years, surprise and fanfare.

[gunnerminer]

-It would be better if the deadlines were not voiced at all-

The entire Rosta village knows about these dates. Do not hide the awl in a bag.

[Ross xnumx]

Let's throw off the sms ...
What a good reason - once again there was a lack of funding ... Maybe it's time to cut the upper ceiling of salaries above 100? Issue bonds 000% of the loan, followed by repayment in 3 ... And what about surplus?

[avia12005]

It is even better to oblige the State Duma of the Russian Federation to complete the repair from the funds of the RFP of deputies.

[kjhg]

Quote: avia12005

It is even better to oblige the State Duma of the Russian Federation to complete the repair from the funds of the RFP of deputies.

Yes, these deputies are simply poor compared to Putin’s friends.

[avia12005]

With deputies and friends on a string ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

And to each rope!))))

[New Year day]

Quote: avia12005

Better yet, oblige

Each oligarch to each modernize the ship. Otherwise the boiler in the ass

[faiver]

about bonds it’s interesting, just shift the maturity dates to the right ...

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: ROSS 42

Maybe it's time to cut the upper ceiling of salaries above 100?

if you are talking about rubles - then this is just normal s \ n

[faiver]

if you are talking about rubles - then this is just normal s \ n

- Well, there is no need to pay more than a hundred thousand rubles to deputies, ministers, "effective managers", etc.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: faiver

- Well, there is no need to pay more than a hundred thousand rubles to deputies, ministers, "effective managers", etc.

at how they will live then ?? what do you allow yourself ?? Yes, you know what you need for such calls? - to the prime ministers!))

[Bull Terrier]

with some joy? cut yourself at least something and do not have to worry about others.

[zushima1905]

Bulya, don’t gurgle.

[Bull Terrier]

I will somehow decide what to do

[zushima1905]

So decide, gurgle only in silence.

[Bull Terrier]

Thank you for allowing. century I will remember your kindness.

[zushima1905]

You can cough only without your bulbs.

[Bull Terrier]

if you think that you are saying something smart, you are very mistaken.

[zushima1905]

So I do not claim that I am writing something smart, just like you got it.

[Bull Terrier]

such what?)))

[Observer2014]

The house with the red roof looks beautiful in the photo for the article. With the right to the photo Who knows what the building is? It’s really really interesting. And this rusty destroyer will certainly be in repair for a long time

deadlines for delivery to its fleet for 2022-2023

Horror. Well, what to do

[gunnerminer]

What course is the building?

Rostin bathhouse. At least until 1995. The crews of ships and units were taken to the wash.

[Observer2014]

gunnerminer (Murad)

Rostin bathhouse. At least until 1995. The crews of ships and units were taken to the wash.

Here! Learn.! Well done! Quickly and decisively made inquiries. Talent !!!! If it’s really a bathhouse, then not everything is so lost. The bathhouse is holy. But the destroyer is rusty which year in the country of victorious Putinism looks wretched.

[gunnerminer]

- The bathhouse is holy. But the destroyer is rusty -

This is the concern of the plant director and the customer, with changeable wishes.

[faiver]

9 years to repair? to calculate how many years 9 China will build destroyers, frigates and UDC? shame

[kjhg]

Quote: faiver

9 years to repair?

This is a normal occurrence for Putin’s government and, at the same time, a disaster for the country.

[DarkMatter]

I do not know what kind of informed source this is, but it was not a secret at the beginning of the year. I myself wrote here in March that no earlier than 23 years worth the wait.

[tlauicol]

9 years to repair?
The fleet, and so upon death, is still doping

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Tlauicol

9 years to repair?
The fleet, and so upon death, is still doping

So with 1155.1 the problem is on the problem.
The main caliber - "Mosquitoes" - was discontinued several years ago.
SAM - "Dagger" - either alive or not. It is not just that they began to spoil the "torus" for the second time.
ZRAK - "Dirk" - died long ago. The last complexes were made "from the groundwork".

[huntsman650]

Daggers have long begun to be disassembled into spare parts for navigable boats. Thor is five times less in instrumentation.

[absaz]

We have not had one misfortune lately, if it’s not natural then with the human factor, if they’re not smart, or if they’re mediocrity in high posts.

[huntsman650]

Not a single ship has yet left 35 srz))). The main attraction on it is the AU salute issue of 44 years, 45 matches. Installed in replacements 76mm, by order of Dobroskotchenko.

[Igoresha]

Well, it’s not a big trouble, since the money is ned ... one trip and repair on a new one. Yes, to cut it on metal and the whole business. Ilil a Chinese ship to buy - cheaper and more reliable

[Comrade Beria]

Where to us to you.

[gunnerminer]

There is no direct correlation between the terms of repair of KSF ships and the degree of collapse of the Ukrainian ship repair.

[jeka424]

During this repair time, it will rot

[Vlad5307]

It seems like it's time to deal with this SRH - there’s little sense in it, for some reason there’s not enough money for some reason.

[kefan]

Hmm .., there are no normal words, some mats.

[huntsman650]

Launched in 1991 They wanted to cut it, but they defended the boat. In 1992 the crew is populated. In 1999 joined the CSF. In March 1999 Arrived at KSF, built on Amber.
"There was a time, I walked 28 knots ....."

[musorg]

All this is strange and is characterized by something else.

[Е2 - Е4]

All right, this is the expected step. Why build something when you can just do cartoons, fake missiles in fake hangars to collect.