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In the Russian Federation proposed to update the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons

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The Federation Council proposed the government to develop new conditions for Russia's use of nuclear weapons, transmits RIA News.




The defense committee worked together with representatives of the Ministry of Defense, the General Staff and the Security Council on the recommendations.

The document, among other things, calls on the executive branch to more clearly define the factors for making a decision on retaliatory strike when the adversary uses hypersonic weapons and other types of non-nuclear strategic weapons.

The authors of the recommendations drew attention to the absence in the Russian Federation of laws on the Armed Forces, military construction and civilian control over defense activities. They noted that the provisions of some laws are blurred and are declarative in nature.

According to a number of American experts, the proposals of Russian lawmakers are aimed at preventing conflicts, and not at using nuclear weapons, and are a clear signal to the West on this matter.

Thus, Olga Oliker, head of the Russia and Eurasia programs at the Center for Strategic Studies in Washington, believes that the parliamentary initiative to prepare a new strategy is associated with the recent statement by Vladimir Putin that the Russian concept of nuclear weapons does not have a preemptive strike, but the aggressor must know that retribution is inevitable that he will be destroyed. "

According to her, the basis of all this is deterrence: the initiative calls not for the use of nuclear weapons, but for the development of specific rules. This will indicate to the West what actions on its part will lead to a counterstrike. As a result, the decisions of Western countries will be weighted, and Russia will not have to resort to strategic weapons.

An employee of the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University, Christine Wen Bruusgaard, is also confident that the principles that are supposed to be written in the updated document will be of great importance in matters of deterrence.

She noted that the provisions of the current military doctrine "are already quite clear on this subject," but lawmakers are interested in clarifying the conditions. In addition, the Federation Council, most likely, stimulated the debate in the West and that confusion in the minds of politicians trying to understand what it really is - the Russian nuclear strategy.

However, she drew attention to the fact that the initiative is still in the early stages of discussion, and the position of the military department and the Security Council is still unknown.
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  1. DMB 75
    DMB 75 22 November 2018 10: 19
    +9
    that in the Russian concept of the use of nuclear weapons there is no preemptive strike, however, "the aggressor must know that retaliation is inevitable, that it will be destroyed."
    Neither fish nor meat. So always and in everything with us ... am
    1. Machito
      Machito 22 November 2018 10: 30
      +5
      It's time to drive the United States behind the flags. Step left, step right - shooting on the spot.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 22 November 2018 10: 43
        0
        Quote: Bearded
        It's time to drive the United States behind the flags. Step left, step right - shooting on the spot.

        Yes sir! hi
        Any accumulation of foreign armed forces near the border of the Russian Federation, bring the Strategic Missile Forces into full combat readiness and let the enemy know that any body movement will be reflected in the territory of the enemy of the aggressor state .... war is war .... it’s a sausage for them .... am
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 November 2018 23: 09
      +1
      Quote: DMB 75
      Neither fish nor meat. So always and in everything with us ...

      With no hangover fish and meat? Our defense doctrine is understandable and clear. Now the proposal to expand the possibility of using nuclear weapons is very relevant, due to the growing greyhound of the West and the advent of new weapons.
      I consider the proposal to be correct. It would be necessary to spell out the clause on the PRIVENT IMPACT. So that the Anglo-Saxons clearly thought what they were doing.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 November 2018 10: 19
    +9
    the initiative is still in the early stages of discussion, and the position of the military department and the Security Council is still unknown.
    why then shake the air ...
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 22 November 2018 10: 40
      +5
      Andrey Yuryevich (Andrey Yuryevich)
      why then shake the air ...
      This is to dissuade the West that Russia will not use nuclear weapons. Well, for nearly 30 years they convinced of their super loyalty and adequacy. They convinced us so much that the Americans did not even go to negotiations. And here is Kim. With antediluvian five missiles, he took it and got a personal meeting with Trump. And on ours they scored. In the corridors by chance where .and so on. All the same, they say the Russians are adequate for so much that they say they still will not apply. Here they are trying to dissuade them for the last year and a half. Intelligently. From far from this. Which raises such a normal, sound question:
      why then shake the air ...
      laughing good
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 22 November 2018 11: 37
        +1
        Quote: Observer2014
        With antediluvian five missiles, he took it and got a personal meeting with Trump. And on ours they scored. In the corridors by chance where .and so on.

        Duc GDP and Trampuha have already met in Finland, but you, apparently, were in a drift at this time. The previously announced meeting in France was postponed to the end of November in Argentina. Diplomats are preparing the agenda, no one is running around with drums, everything is dignified.
      2. Digital error
        Digital error 23 November 2018 19: 18
        0
        All the same, they say Russian is adequate for so much that they say they still do not apply

        Russian - who is this? Decision makers Rotenberg, Abramovich, Sands, etc.? So their children live in NATO and have real estate there - so yes, these Russians are really adequate and will not apply anything, even in response. And the rest of the inadequate 140 millions will not be asked - is it not the highest award to go to heaven?
  3. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 22 November 2018 10: 28
    +5
    In fact, nuclear deterrence should be “legalized”. The sooner, the better.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 22 November 2018 10: 48
      0
      Quote: Krasnodar
      “Legalized”

      Who is that talking about legal containment, Jews ?! Stop fawning, you know how it all ends. So a sober mind and a cool head are better, otherwise they begin to sit on the neck. Your limited "pendels" are also not legally or in any way formalized, when you wake up? bully
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 22 November 2018 11: 28
        +5
        laughing fawn? )) Before whom, excuse me? In addition, you do not compare the small, US-backed Israel and Russia, which is a nuclear superpower with the right to veto the UN, which they are nevertheless encircled with bases from all sides, trying to drag overhead round of an arms race and in which instead of allies parasites?
        Such a country really needs to formulate and publish a nuclear doctrine that will dot partners from the West with all points over i. Israel lives differently from the word completely.
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 22 November 2018 12: 04
          -1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          fawn? )) Before whom, excuse me?

          This is figurative, but the message is that they talk a lot, but everyone knows, if anything, it smells without any pieces of paper ... ... hi
          Quote: Krasnodar
          You do not compare Israel, which is constantly fighting in various conflicts, with the support of the USA, Israel and Russia, which is a nuclear superpower with the right of veto in the UN, which, however, is “encircled” with bases from all sides, they are trying to drag an overhead round of the race weapons and which instead of allies parasites?

          And who is against, who is breaking the doors of the world and how many followers of these actions! Israel is one of the most odious followers, yes you say these are the conditions for survival, well then the exchange of nuclear weapons can also become conditions for survival. The world must condemn arrogance and lawlessness, and he does what he does, he indulges these manifestations and then writes laws under these conditions. So there will be an exchange, not today, so tomorrow, it’s a matter of time, you don’t even have to guess, it needs to be prepared ....
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Such a country really needs to formulate and publish a nuclear doctrine that will dot partners from the West with all points over i. Israel lives differently from the word completely.

          There is a contradiction, which Israel also sometimes cites as an example - "they live differently", here you can add only one more slogan - "they are not like us" and this will be enough so that the war does not stop ... hi
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 November 2018 12: 32
            +1
            This document is needed to designate their Red Lines, at the intersection of which there will be an Armageddian.
            Israel is a state of a different caliber in world politics, a different geography, history, etc. The comparison is about nothing.
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 22 November 2018 14: 07
              -1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Israel is a state of a different caliber in world politics, a different geography, history, etc. The comparison is about nothing.

              That is, Israel and similar small states should not be punished ?! It is with small states that we need to start. Everyone should, regardless of size, live within the law, and this is not a comparison, this is a rule for everyone, without exceptions, but everything is not right when wearing it. Everyone writes their own law of survival, but you need to find a common one, and this is a big problem. In general, everyone should be punished, everyone, only then it can delay the "bang" for some time ... yes
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 22 November 2018 15: 13
                0
                laughing ... Yes, Israel has nothing to do with it? We are talking about the official publication of the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons by the Russian Federation. All. And if we are talking about the punishment of Israel, then we need to check the following things:
                for what?
                b) how to punish
                c) what will it change
                d) what economic / military result will result in an attempt to punish a country with nuclear weapons, a million (after a week of mobilization) soldiers and economic indicators in the first 20 countries of the world
                d) And most importantly. WHO, pancake, will be punished laughing
                1. MKPU-115
                  MKPU-115 22 November 2018 16: 42
                  0
                  a) what for us? laughing did you have Ukrainians in your family?
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 November 2018 16: 53
                    0
                    I do not know. The Amur Cossacks were, i.e. it is possible that the Ukrainians were present))
                    1. MKPU-115
                      MKPU-115 22 November 2018 16: 57
                      +1
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      I do not know. The Amur Cossacks were, i.e. it is possible that the Ukrainians were present))

                      I'm not talking about the Cossacks, but about the Ukrainians, "and for what us?"
                      You ask Iran why you
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 22 November 2018 17: 02
                        0
                        Iran understands why))
                        For the fact that there is a confrontation between Shiites and Sunnis. And hatred of Israel is the only consensus in the Middle East. Whoever spoils him more (they can’t win in open battle for a long time) is more popular.
                        Now let's ask Somalia why Israel is not liked there laughing Also serious guys - ships are being robbed.
                2. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 22 November 2018 17: 13
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  ... Yes, Israel has nothing to do with it?

                  Moreover, Israel must be included in this law, all accomplices will be eliminated on the occasion of the attack. Look what you decided to evade punishment, no, everyone will be punished, well, in general the doctrine will still be comprehensive ..... yes
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 November 2018 17: 18
                    0
                    Yes please ))
                    Though Israel, even Luxembourg, even Papua New Guinea. laughing Although the last two vigorous loaves do not, but not fundamentally ...
            2. MKPU-115
              MKPU-115 22 November 2018 16: 43
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              This document is needed to designate their Red Lines, at the intersection of which there will be an Armageddian.
              Israel is a state of a different caliber in world politics, a different geography, history, etc. The comparison is about nothing.

              God's chosen hi
        2. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 22 November 2018 16: 47
          +2
          Quote: Krasnodar
          laughing fawn? )) Before whom, excuse me? In addition, you do not compare Israel, Russia, which is a nuclear superpower with the right of veto in the United Nations, which is, nevertheless, “encircled” with bases from all sides, constantly fighting in conflicts,

          This is normal and traditional, every 100 years Europeans are gathered in a heap and sent to Russia by war, there they rake in full and again peace for 100 years, until a couple of generations change.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 November 2018 17: 03
            0
            Well, now there is a vigorous loaf, so you need to show when and how it will be used. It is important.
    2. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 22 November 2018 16: 38
      0
      Quote: Krasnodar
      In fact, nuclear deterrence should be “legalized”. The sooner, the better.

      Yes, and first of all it is necessary to formalize a nuclear deterrence between Israel and Iran.
      True, this is fantastic, everything can be mongrel in the USA, including journalists at the consulate.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 22 November 2018 16: 56
        0
        Quote: MKPU-115
        Quote: Krasnodar
        In fact, nuclear deterrence should be “legalized”. The sooner, the better.

        Yes, and first of all it is necessary to formalize a nuclear deterrence between Israel and Iran.
        True, this is fantastic, everything can be mongrel in the USA, including journalists at the consulate.

        You decide for yourself whose mongrels)) the Israeli Israel, the American America, the Saudis, the Saudi States ... And what is between Israel and Iran? And what does Russia have to do with it?
        1. MKPU-115
          MKPU-115 22 November 2018 17: 01
          +1
          Everything has been determined for a long time, Israel and Europe are faithful sixes, I apologize, allies of the United States.
          As the US says. so they will do !!!
          or wrong?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 November 2018 17: 15
            -1
            laughing ... to date, Jews are the richest ethnic community in the United States. Thus, in the last election, Trump was sponsored by a friend of Natanyagi Edelson, Clintonsha - Tel Aviv Saban. The only one who stood against Israel after the Reagan is Obama. Natanyaga came to the States, did not meet with him, spoke in Congress, and before that he called on Amer Jews to vote against Barack Hussein - for his former companion Mita Romney)) Here is the six States of Israel. By the way, Jews did not join any of the anti-Russian sanctions.
  4. Altona
    Altona 22 November 2018 10: 30
    0
    We have no civilian control over the government at all. And the authorities began to behave like a brazen gopnik, testing the patience of the people. With regards to "nuclear strikes, otvetok and right now, like a bang," then our corrupt government will not bomb anyone other than our own population. I am even 100% sure of this, because in Syria we have set up a walk-through, where everyone who is not too lazy, Turks, Jews and Americans, is hammering us, and we are only wiping ourselves off with another concern.
  5. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 22 November 2018 10: 30
    +2
    -The authors of the recommendations drew attention to the absence in the Russian Federation of laws on the Armed Forces, military construction and civilian control over defense activities. They noted that the provisions of some laws are vague and declarative in nature.
    -

    So from the Gorbachev era this legislative tail has been stretching.
  6. Elephant
    Elephant 22 November 2018 10: 31
    +4
    Very relevant and timely. The situation at the borders of Russia is radically changing for the worse and potential opponents are improving their armaments.
  7. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 22 November 2018 10: 34
    +3
    Need more points for the use of nuclear weapons. Sanctions imposed - hold the rocket wassat
    They were afraid to sneeze.
    Well, I joked of course
  8. BAI
    BAI 22 November 2018 10: 41
    +4
    Olga Oliker believes
    .....
    Kristin Ven Bruusgaard is also confident

    Did the peasants among the MILITARY experts run out?
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 22 November 2018 10: 52
      0
      Quote: BAI
      Olga Oliker believes
      .....
      Kristin Ven Bruusgaard is also confident

      Did the peasants among the MILITARY experts run out?

      The war has a female name, they also know something about the war ..... wink
      1. Chichikov
        Chichikov 22 November 2018 11: 27
        +1
        And look how many defense ministers in the West "march" in skirts! Straight return of matriarchy ...
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 22 November 2018 11: 34
          0
          Quote: Chichikov
          And look how many defense ministers in the West "march" in skirts! Straight return of matriarchy ...

          If we consider an enemy in a woman, then this is the most insidious and merciless enemy. A woman by nature feels like the beginning and continuation of life, a man is a surviving primate in these conditions, but "primates" can also do something ... laughing
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  10. Guru
    Guru 22 November 2018 11: 19
    +1
    It is strange that the draft of this law has not been published, with very strict parameters. For example, "The use of nuclear weapons is ALLOWED as a preemptive strike in the event that foreign troops approach the borders of the Russian Federation closer than 500 km." And let our NATO partners ponder. I repeat, drop it as a DUT on behalf of some State Duma deputy or faction.
  11. taiga2018
    taiga2018 22 November 2018 11: 45
    0
    maybe it's time to decide on a probable enemy and clearly point a finger at him, otherwise our leadership seems to insist that "the enemy is at the gates", and on the other hand calls everyone partners ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 22 November 2018 12: 15
      -1
      Quote: taiga2018
      maybe it’s time already and will determine the likely enemy and clearly point to it with your finger

      -----------------------
      What's next? Ditching the dollar and oil trading? Are you personally ready for this? Although the site does not like uncomfortable questions. We are ready to fight, but not ready for the fact that the generals at the top will be "Chechen".
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 22 November 2018 12: 18
        0
        Quote: Altona
        What's next?

        Clarity with a probable adversary did not stop the Soviet Union from trading oil and using the dollar ...
        1. Altona
          Altona 22 November 2018 12: 20
          0
          Quote: taiga2018
          Clarity with a probable adversary did not stop the Soviet Union from trading oil and using the dollar ...

          -----------------------
          The USSR had its own market and military bloc plus popular power. And what of this does Russia have?
          1. taiga2018
            taiga2018 22 November 2018 12: 31
            -1
            Quote: Altona
            had its own market

            at the same time, all the same, the lion's share of income was received by selling the same oil to the West ...
            Quote: Altona
            military block

            at the same time, the whole brunt of the war, for example in Afghanistan, took upon itself that I had not heard about the Polish, Czech or Gdrov units there ...
            Quote: Altona
            people's power

            what was its nationality, perhaps only in that the powers that be were a little more modest than the current ones, so the population didn’t particularly fat at that time, and in order to buy something it was necessary to run around (although it is clear that they didn’t experience this in Moscow ), for example, in order to bring me to school my mother at the end of August went to a neighboring village for 60 km. with three transfers ...
            1. Altona
              Altona 22 November 2018 12: 39
              +2
              Quote: taiga2018
              at the same time, all the same, the lion's share of income was received by selling the same oil to the West ...
              -------------------------------
              Don't write nonsense, because the USSR was a big exporter of engineering products. You seem like Putin reasoning that "only galoshes were made in the USSR." Oil and gas accounted for 17% of Soviet exports. Closer to the 1990s, there were more.

              Quote: Altona
              military block

              at the same time, the whole brunt of the war, for example in Afghanistan, took upon itself that I had not heard about the Polish, Czech or Gdrov units there ...
              ---------------------------------
              At first, the USSR was not going to fight in Afghanistan to the extent that it was 4 years later; there was a need to protect caravans with goods for the national economy.

              Quote: Altona
              people's power

              what was its nationality, perhaps only in that the powers that be were a little more modest than the current ones, so the population didn’t particularly fat at that time, and in order to buy something it was necessary to run around (although it is clear that they didn’t experience this in Moscow ), for example, in order to bring me to school my mother at the end of August went to a neighboring village for 60 km. with three transfers ...

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              And your mother didn’t get your progression? Maybe I’ve been looking for work for months? Didn’t hand over vegetables from a garden to Consumer cooperatives? Did not use any vouchers? Or maybe you had to pay for education? Well, power, like society, was reborn over time. As for the school to collect, I was somehow indifferent in my childhood to the junk that my father brought me, wore the usual blue uniform with a book on my sleeve and Skorokhodovsky sandals. He hid Czech shoes in the locker room, they were uncomfortable for me and did not like the design.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 22 November 2018 11: 50
    0
    Who comes to us with a sword, grenade, rocket, in return receives a three-story! Immediately and without any sentiment!
    1. Altona
      Altona 22 November 2018 12: 19
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      Who comes to us with a sword, grenade, rocket, in return receives a three-story! Immediately and without any sentiment!

      ---------------------
      It’s for nothing that you don’t win the war with caps and don’t always win with checkers. Sometimes propaganda and diplomacy can turn a brilliant victory into a crushing defeat. The Americans are now throwing us technology to the borders. They have not yet found and are not looking for volunteers for the war.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 November 2018 12: 53
        0
        Quote: Altona
        They have not yet found and are not looking for volunteers for the war.

        Volunteers fight silently, except perhaps yapping from afar.
        But shaw, the terrible statements of our upper class, some of whom can even drive into trembling, bring to an unexpected .... chew a tie there, tumble down in the ditches.
        The main thing is to growl louder and frowning menacingly!
        1. Altona
          Altona 22 November 2018 12: 56
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          But shaw, the formidable statements of our upper class, some of whom may drive into trembling, bring to the unexpected ...

          --------------------------------
          You yourself know the statements of our top managers. In 2005, they "give the floor", in 2018 "they ask for understanding." Our statements have not soared for a long time. The USSR did nothing, and these and even more so.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 November 2018 13: 11
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            Quote: Altona
            The statements of our upper ones you yourself know.

            I know, because I’m listening for fun, sometimes.
            Quote: Altona
            Our statements do not soar for a long time.

            Differently. Even if neighing, in Munich, for example, now some people remembered and wondered if it was in vain that they had so much fun. They don’t admit, but just look at their sour faces, everything is clear.
            Now, if they don’t laugh, then they grin .... BUT! again this but. Let's see what happens next.
            Quote: Altona
            The USSR did nothing, but these even more so.

            Not true!
            When there were serious leaders at the head of the country, after a well-known incident, NOBODY got into trouble.
            When there was a panopticon of the elderly senile, young and nimble goat-assailants upstairs, they still listened, but deceived already insolent! Such a time has come.
  13. iouris
    iouris 22 November 2018 12: 03
    +1
    The use of nuclear weapons is governed by "international law" which takes precedence over the legislation of the Russian Federation (see the Constitution of the Russian Federation).
    1. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 22 November 2018 16: 54
      0
      You yourself know, with us, and not only laid down on:
      1. The Constitution;
      2. International law laughing , who is stronger is right;
      3. The people ... well, they never paid attention to him, who needs it?