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In the detected submarine of the Argentine Navy, the screw was torn off and the hull was partially destroyed.

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The Argentine Navy published a photo of the San Juan submarine found at a depth of about 900, which disappeared last November and has been searching for all this time. Recall that the Argentine Navy submarine discovered an American deep-water craft.


В microblogging Argentine naval forces show pictures showing the submarine hull parts destroyed by the explosion.

In the detected submarine of the Argentine Navy, the screw was torn off and the hull was partially destroyed.


The propeller of the submarine was found lying apart from its hull, which indicates the strength of the explosive impact. Earlier it was reported that the death of the submarine was due, most likely, due to an explosion in the power plant "San Juan".



In connection with the discovery of a combat underwater ship in Argentina, a three-day national mourning has been declared.

Meanwhile, in Argentina itself, a conspiracy view was made that the Americans and British allegedly had long been aware of where the death point of the submarine that made the maritime transition to the Mar del Plata base was located. And they didn’t “declare” this in order to avert suspicion from themselves. They announced the discovery on the day of the anniversary of the disappearance of the submarine and a few days before the G-20 summit in Argentina. However, not many Argentines were ready to believe in this conspiracy the individual media.

Recall that at the base of the Argentine Navy, where the submarine was supposed to arrive, there were actions of relatives and close sailors, during which they called on the command to intensify the search and report on the fate of the crew. On the "San Juan" during the transition were 44 person. They all died. Now there is talk about the possible conduct of the operation to raise the bodies of sailors for burial. Many Argentines believe that raising bodies is not necessary, since the Atlantic actually became the resting place of the sailors of San Juan.

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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 19 November 2018 07: 47
    +28
    They searched for a whole year and there is no way to raise it ... how great the oceans are all the same ... my condolences to the Argentines.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 19 November 2018 08: 34
      -5
      Quote: The same Lech
      They searched for a whole year and there is no way to raise it ... how great the oceans are all the same ... my condolences to the Argentines.

      I join in condolences.
      We found mattresses, and not our latest research vessel with ultramodern, non-analogous equipment in the world. Very sad, but true.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 19 November 2018 08: 44
        +8
        The flag behind the back of the Argentine resembles our Andreevsky. Condolences to the family.
        1. uav80
          uav80 19 November 2018 10: 02
          +13
          This is our Andreev flag, the Argentines call it the Andreev flag of Admiral Brown’s squadron, it went to the Argentines together with the frigate Hercules bought from Russia in 1813, it is considered an unofficial symbol of the Argentine Navy ...
      2. Machito
        Machito 19 November 2018 10: 41
        +7
        Argentines quite rightly believe in conspiracy theories.
        How did the Americans find a needle in a hay table at such a depth?
        From this depth no one will lift the boat, and the cause of her death will remain unknown.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 19 November 2018 15: 47
          +1
          Quote: Bearded
          How did the Americans find a needle in a hay table at such a depth?
          From this depth no one will lift a boat

          About 50 years ago, the Americans found their submarine "Scorpion" in the Atlantic at a depth of more than 3000m. Moreover, the search area was much larger (the Argentinean was found not far from the place of the last communication session, it is strange that they were looking for so long).
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 20 November 2018 14: 51
            +1
            The scorpion search area narrowed very quickly, and was 12 by 12 miles .. what are you talking about?
      3. igorka357
        igorka357 19 November 2018 10: 42
        +7
        Here about the submarine and those who died in the abyss, and you are all about your "kakunas" disgrace! Such characters will always find something to blurt out and shit on their country!
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon 19 November 2018 12: 10
        +11
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        We found mattresses, and not our latest research vessel with ultramodern, non-analogous equipment in the world. Very sad, but true.

        They found it because they knew exactly where to look.
      5. Muvka
        Muvka 19 November 2018 14: 39
        +3
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Quote: The same Lech
        They searched for a whole year and there is no way to raise it ... how great the oceans are all the same ... my condolences to the Argentines.

        I join in condolences.
        We found mattresses, and not our latest research vessel with ultramodern, non-analogous equipment in the world. Very sad, but true.

        Our month searched and the mattresses a year. But that certainly doesn't matter, right?
        1. iaroslav.mudryi
          iaroslav.mudryi 19 November 2018 18: 51
          +2
          Our month searched and the mattresses a year. But that certainly doesn't matter, right?

          The US company Ocean Infinity, the Argentinean government hired in August 2018. The company began prospecting work on September 10 of 2018 of the year.
  2. Underwater hunter
    Underwater hunter 19 November 2018 07: 48
    +26
    Conspirological versions often turn out to be not so conspiratorial ..
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 19 November 2018 08: 43
      +7
      True, but not least the "sauce" under which this version is served matters. wink
    2. Berber
      Berber 19 November 2018 09: 05
      +2
      Honestly, the first thought - and here pyndosy and pypyndosniki shamed. And yet - why not investigate the circumstances? Indeed, curious facts may come up.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 19 November 2018 10: 45
        +2
        Kursk Americans, ISS Americans, Argentinean submarines Americans ... maybe it’s enough already? I understand that they are enemies to us, but it’s ridiculous!
        1. Berber
          Berber 19 November 2018 11: 02
          +3
          Regarding the Kursk. 3 billion of the ransom payments were transferred by the United States without any conditions. Why do you think?
          The Argentinean submarine may not be their work, but there are still questions.
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 19 November 2018 11: 20
            +5
            Quote: BerBer
            Regarding the Kursk. 3 billion of the ransom payments were transferred by the United States without any conditions. Why do you think?
            The Argentinean submarine may not be their work, but there are still questions.

            Have you personally been transferred to your pocket? Or on the Internet told a friend of a friend?
            1. Berber
              Berber 19 November 2018 11: 24
              +1
              If they listed it to me, I would not comment. I will answer the question with a question. Do you remember why the Kursk tragedy happened? I advise you to refresh your memory.
              1. major147
                major147 19 November 2018 11: 38
                +6
                Quote: BerBer
                If they listed it to me, I would not comment. I will answer the question with a question. Do you remember why the Kursk tragedy happened? I advise you to refresh your memory.

                I apologize for interfering in the dispute, but of. version - explosion of a torpedo. And where can I learn in detail about 3 billion?
                1. Berber
                  Berber 19 November 2018 11: 49
                  -3
                  I read it for a long time, so there are no links now. But if you're interested, you can dig around and find. I remember that the rise was also paid by the states. The investigation was very "muddy". The issue of a hole in the bow was not raised at all.
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 19 November 2018 12: 20
                    +9
                    Quote: BerBer
                    But if interested, you can dig and find.

                    A typical troll response to a stuffing question. - "you need, you and look, and my job is to start hearing." negative
                    Threat.
                    3 billion lenders transferred the United States without any conditions

                    Round sums always cause distrust. Experienced trolls paint them down to the penny.
                    1. Berber
                      Berber 19 November 2018 12: 25
                      0
                      Keywords below are keywords. Drive into the search engine and find. I repeat, if it is really interesting, and not just scratching the tongue.
                      Do not engage in verbiage.
                2. Berber
                  Berber 19 November 2018 12: 05
                  0
                  As a result, the Americans canceled all previous Russian debt and provided a new loan of 10 billion dollars.[B] [/ b]
                  Convincing Canadian film (the title in Russian translation - "Submarine in troubled water")
                  1. igorka357
                    igorka357 20 November 2018 14: 56
                    -1
                    This is a film by a French director!
              2. igorka357
                igorka357 20 November 2018 14: 54
                +1
                So the explosion of "thick" is kind of like, what else is there to refresh?
            2. Vladimir 5
              Vladimir 5 20 November 2018 18: 53
              0
              Vol4ara ... After the sinking of the Kursk, the United States paid off Russia's debts worth $ 10 billion in its banks. This fact is not made public, because it points to the true reasons for the sinking of the Kursk nuclear submarine. According to the Argentine DPL, the British may be more involved here, for the Malvinas-Falkland Islands are nearby. It would be interesting to know the place of the death of the Argentine DPL, because the British for the Argentine Navy declared a vast exclusion zone around the Malvinas-Falkland Islands ...
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 20 November 2018 14: 53
            0
            Who ever told you such information? Probably a Frenchman film ..)))?
            1. Berber
              Berber 20 November 2018 15: 03
              0
              What are you talking about, Igor? Do you have your own vision? Set out.
              The official report is lying. It's my opinion. I am not a supporter of conspiracy theories, but there is a clear fraud.
    3. Waldemar
      Waldemar 19 November 2018 09: 19
      +6
      Conspiracy is usually called things that are inaccessible to the understanding of the weak-minded ... that is why all sorts of figures make fun of them so cheerfully. In such cases, I recall a cartoon with a flock of sheep in a paddock, a shepherd and a shepherd dog and one sheep, saying "the dog and the man are clearly acting at the same time", and he is answered like "you are sick in the head"
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 19 November 2018 09: 34
        +3
        Many things are incomprehensible to us not because our concepts are weak; but because these things are not part of our circle of concepts.
        1. Waldemar
          Waldemar 23 November 2018 22: 09
          0
          aa ... that same prutkov quote
      2. Avior
        Avior 19 November 2018 10: 20
        +5
        "yes you are sick in the head"

        not
        "you are always with your conspiracy losses" lol
        1. Waldemar
          Waldemar 23 November 2018 22: 10
          0
          the meaning is the same. exact word order is not always important
  3. olhon
    olhon 19 November 2018 07: 50
    0
    Probably something under shamanism at the bottom and "found".
  4. Gray brother
    Gray brother 19 November 2018 07: 59
    +5
    The hull is completely destroyed, not "partially".
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 19 November 2018 08: 07
    +14
    What a terrible death ... You can get out of a burning tank, jump out of an airplane with a parachute, lower a boat from a sinking ship ... and there, at a depth ... Remain in a sealed "box" and realize that you only have a little more to live slightly ....
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 19 November 2018 10: 49
      +1
      Well, you have a strange understanding, well, get out of the tank shell-shocked, and from the passenger with a parachute, and from the ship from the engine catch the boat! Well, the submarines often surfaced abnormally, and the crew remained intact. there’s nothing, that's why submariners are a family, either there is a kayuk for everyone, or we all live .. because of this, the clarity and coherence of submariners is a priority on all fleets!
      1. your1970
        your1970 19 November 2018 11: 21
        +3
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        You can get out of a burning tank
        - Some of the classics had "I'm here in my own trench, which I dug myself, and they are there in a box, in the world, and you can't just jump out ... they are more afraid to burn"
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 20 November 2018 20: 13
          0
          Quote: your1970
          Some of the classics had "I'm here in my own trench, which I dug myself, and they are there in a box, in the world, and you can't just jump out ... they are more afraid to burn"

          Yeah. Grandfather told horror. The battalion was ambushed, a blank hit, the tank commander was in two parts, they were all covered in blood, smoke, cinder, he began to open the lower hatch, and there the hill turned out to be. Started something like, crawled out a bit, climbed out with a tower, and into a ravine. There, they only managed to throw off the German leather trophy cloaks, and here they are, not too bad right there. And they didn’t even have weapons, for the whole crew - one commander’s TT. And the commander is in pieces. Well, at least my grandfather was lucky, only six months he was somewhere in captivity, released.
  6. Mimoxod
    Mimoxod 19 November 2018 08: 16
    +4
    Meanwhile, in Argentina itself, a conspiracy point of view was voiced that the Americans and the British allegedly had long been aware of where the death point of the submarine, which made the naval transition to the Mar del Plata naval base, is located.
    It is likely that there is a "British trace" in this still unclear tragic case ....
    1. depressant
      depressant 19 November 2018 08: 28
      +1
      Well, why British ... According to the results of chem. An analysis of the chips will definitely establish that the Argentine boat was rammed by a Russian one. And by the nature of the destruction - that he was driving and put pressure on gas Putin. Otherwise, how can they wash themselves?
      1. Waldemar
        Waldemar 19 November 2018 09: 24
        +6
        Given the actions and rhetoric of the "partners", this option is real
  7. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 19 November 2018 08: 28
    -3
    I believe that the death of San Juan is the work of small-shavens, the number of sailors 44 is the number divided by 11. They often use such a black mark.
    1. Waldemar
      Waldemar 19 November 2018 09: 25
      0
      Yes, 11 they love. And multiple. 22 and so on. At the apex occult things go.
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 19 November 2018 10: 50
      +4
      Lord, what kind of characters do they live in?
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 19 November 2018 14: 51
        -3
        Game357! And why are you so open right away?
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 19 November 2018 18: 33
        0
        Yes, how would freedom of speech?
        Or "our newcomerthis is ours newcomerand talk about yours in more detail?
      3. Waldemar
        Waldemar 23 November 2018 22: 12
        0
        Do not call the name in the sou. I’m looking at you and don’t even exclaim anything like that. when around you the famous 95% of humanity is no surprise.
        And one should pay attention to the conditional "numerology" of various significant events, given their artificial and planned nature. but, I'm afraid, very few people are smart enough for this
  8. cniza
    cniza 19 November 2018 08: 30
    +7
    that the Americans and the British allegedly had long been aware of where the submarine’s death point is located,


    Most likely ... but people died, and the truth will remain with the boat at the bottom. Condolences to all the families and friends of the dead sailors.
  9. vadimtt
    vadimtt 19 November 2018 08: 31
    +4
    Hmm, what is there in the "power plant" that can explode with such consequences? Hydrogen?
    Like this problem over the many years of the existence of diesel-electric submarines more or less sorted out?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 19 November 2018 09: 15
      +3
      Quote: vadimtt
      Like this problem over the many years of the existence of diesel-electric submarines more or less sorted out?

      The properties of hydrogen over the years have not changed.
      1. Grigory b
        Grigory b 19 November 2018 17: 03
        +2
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: vadimtt
        Like this problem over the many years of the existence of diesel-electric submarines more or less sorted out?

        The properties of hydrogen over the years have not changed.

        There are so many accidents with batteries in the fleet, well, the deck will be swollen in the emergency battery compartment, well, it will be torn apart by the explosion of the AB ventilation system pipe and no more, but here the hull is completely destroyed and the screw has come off. The hydrogen explosion is nonsense. Sincere condolences to the families and friends of the dead submariners.
  10. pvv113
    pvv113 19 November 2018 08: 44
    +7
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    They found mattresses, and not our latest research vessel with ultramodern equipment that does not have any analogues in the world.

    Perhaps because they found that they knew where to look.
    Relatives and friends of condolences ...
  11. K-50
    K-50 19 November 2018 08: 45
    0
    The campaign was attacked by an anti-submarine torpedo.
    But who needed this? After all, Argentina is not at war with anyone now.
    Did the Little Britons decide to recall the old?
    what
    1. anjey
      anjey 19 November 2018 11: 00
      +4
      I wonder why a certain contingent in VO minus a very real version of the "British attack", Russia, and not involved, and even for the living Skrypals, as soon as they did not cheat in the west, I think that Britain is to blame for the death of the boat. Now is the century of creative wars and in the Falklands War also no state has officially declared war, although the governments of both Great Britain and Argentina claimed that the islands were a war zone, and officially recognized that the state of war and hostilities between states were almost exclusively limited to the territories that were the subject of the dispute and the area of ​​the South Atlantic in which they were located.
  12. Glory1974
    Glory1974 19 November 2018 08: 59
    +6
    There was information that they found at the prompt of the United States. They allegedly recorded the explosion with the help of monitoring stations for underwater conditions. It is not clear why they reported this only now.
    I recall that they, too, allegedly found our boat that died in the Pacific Ocean using this system, although experts say that its accuracy in those years was a couple of thousand miles left and right.
    But with all this, the technical level of the Americans is quite high. When the Ukrainians shot down the TU-154 over the Black Sea, it was the evidence from US satellites that made it possible to understand what had happened, to quickly find and raise the plane.
    1. Waldemar
      Waldemar 19 November 2018 09: 26
      +1
      If the system is secret, they may be silent about it for well-known reasons.
    2. Cat Kuzya
      Cat Kuzya 19 November 2018 11: 09
      +3
      But with the Boeing shot down over Ukraine, for some reason, there was complete silence on the part of the Americans, like: we saw nothing ... wink
  13. forcecom
    forcecom 19 November 2018 09: 26
    +3
    Now there is talk of a possible operation to raise the bodies of sailors for burial.

    Yes, there are already bodies there, more precisely, if the accident developed quickly and the crew did not have time to put on rescue equipment like our MTP, then there for a year crabs and cod all gobbled up.
  14. snake
    snake 19 November 2018 10: 26
    -8
    Many Argentines believe that it is not necessary to lift bodies, since the Atlantic actually became the resting place of the sailors of the San Juan.

    Maxim died, and ... God bless him!
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 19 November 2018 17: 05
      0
      Quote: serpent
      Many Argentines believe that it is not necessary to lift bodies, since the Atlantic actually became the resting place of the sailors of the San Juan.

      Maxim died, and ... God bless him!

      Without raising the boat how to find out the cause of death? She’s not the only one, probably, and again 44 people can die. And how to count on them in case of war if you do not know whether they will complete the task or drown?
      1. snake
        snake 19 November 2018 22: 16
        0
        Are you asking me? So I am also surprised by the actions of the Argentine authorities. It is not yet clear why the opinion of all Argentines, and not directly the relatives and friends of sailors, is taken into account.
  15. Cat Kuzya
    Cat Kuzya 19 November 2018 11: 06
    +1
    "Discovered an American underwater vehicle" .... It is curious, especially in light of recent articles that the Americans see all submarines on a specific radar track on the surface. Apparently, even here they knew where to look ... they just waited until we did not succeed and others ...
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 19 November 2018 11: 20
      0
      Highlilikli is more prosaic, everything is very easily detected when you know in advance where to look.
  16. Graz
    Graz 19 November 2018 11: 59
    +3
    also inclined to believe that the Americans knew the place of death of the Argentinean submarine
  17. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 19 November 2018 13: 00
    -1
    Quote: igorka357
    Lord, what kind of characters do they live in?

    Igor, still in the children's sandbox. For you, I have a joke: Two cows are talking, one says: "You know, I have such a feeling that they feed us so well and take care of us so that later they can make cutlets out of us." And the other answers her: "I don't believe in the conspiracy theory ..."
  18. Examenatornick
    Examenatornick 19 November 2018 14: 04
    -4
    it must be admitted that the American deep-sea vehicle "made" our underwater vehicles.
    1. Examenatornick
      Examenatornick 19 November 2018 14: 48
      -3
      and here is a patriot minuser with no arguments
  19. senima56
    senima56 19 November 2018 15: 01
    -8
    "Recall that the Argentine Navy submarine was discovered by an American deep-sea vessel." And we sent our newest ship ... and we did it! There was no need to send - if we were not sure that we would find! And so, the whole world was disgraced!