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Hamas revealed the purpose of the operation that led to the death of an Israeli lieutenant colonel

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Khalil al-Haya, a senior representative of the Hamas movement, spoke about the purpose of the IDF operation in the Gaza Strip, during which an Israeli officer was killed, reports news resource NEWSru.co.il.




An Israeli army lieutenant colonel M. on the night of November 12 died in the vicinity of the settlement of Khan Yunis during an operation to install "listening equipment", said al-Haya.

According to him, the resistance fighters showed vigilance and thwarted this operation.

It will not be easy for Israeli saboteurs to penetrate the territory protected by Hamas forces, one of the movement’s leaders added.

He also denied media reports about achieving "amazing progress" in negotiations with Israel on the exchange of prisoners. "The occupants are not yet ready to go on the exchange," said al-Haya.

Recall, on the night of 12 in November, a special unit of the IDF conducted an operation in the southern part of the Gaza Strip. The group was discovered by fighters from the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is part of the structure of the military wing of Hamas. During the ensuing battle, Israeli Lieutenant Colonel M. died. The personal details of the officer and details of the operation are not disclosed by the Israeli military.



In response to the invasion of their territory, the Palestinians launched a rocket attack on Israel. Two missiles were shot down by the Iron Dome missile defense system.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who was in France at that time, interrupted his visit and flew home "due to the exacerbation of the situation on the border with the Gaza Strip."
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  1. Slavs
    Slavs 18 November 2018 17: 16
    +3
    So did they set a wiretap or removed the Hamas leader? Am I confusing something?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 November 2018 17: 20
      +6
      A prominent Hamas commander led an ambush on Israeli special forces. Both commanders were killed on both sides.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 18 November 2018 17: 36
        +5
        Serious operation, once the lieutenant colonel participated.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 18 November 2018 19: 15
          +7
          It will not be easy for Israeli saboteurs to continue

          Somehow this Hamas is overly politically correct.
          Saboteurs are military men penetrating enemy territory.
          A group of armed people in civilian uniform - according to all international laws terrorists.
          1. kasatky
            kasatky 18 November 2018 22: 17
            +3
            Quote: Shurik70
            A group of armed people in civilian uniform - according to all international laws, terrorists

            Hmm ... Immediately a theoretical question arose: Stirlitz in military uniform of the Imperial Security Directorate was also a terrorist? Or only when he changed into a citizen? :)
            1. kasatky
              kasatky 18 November 2018 22: 50
              +3
              Shozh you are such a bore, comrade minusovateli :)
              PS: the correct answer to my question: Stirlitz was an illegal agent. Clear? And then the terrorists .., the terrorists .... Ugh ... As if they don’t know the words of others :)
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 18 November 2018 23: 47
                +4
                You are well aware of the difference between an introduction agent and a battle group abandoned behind enemy lines.
                So do not cheat, pretending to understand nothing.
                1. kasatky
                  kasatky 19 November 2018 08: 33
                  -5
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  You are well aware of the difference between an introduction agent and a battle group abandoned behind enemy lines.
                  So do not cheat

                  The terrorists and the militant group are "not the same thing either." I am solely about the fact that things should be called by their proper names. Public terror is directed at civilians for the purpose of intimidation, demoralization, etc. In the described skirmish, soldiers of both sides were killed.
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 19 November 2018 21: 56
                    +2
                    The fact that terrorists are killed by the military does not yet make terrorists military.
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 19 November 2018 01: 47
              +3
              Quote: kasatky
              Stirlitz in a military uniform of the Imperial Security Directorate was also a terrorist? Or only when he changed into a citizen? :)

              Mdaaa! In this "commentary" there is no wit, no humor ...
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 18 November 2018 17: 55
        +1
        Was there a duel?
        on bayonet-knives? Or did they bring swords?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 18 November 2018 20: 16
          +3
          Duel? With the Jews?
          On wallets, perhaps.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 18 November 2018 17: 56
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        A prominent Hamas commander led an ambush on Israeli special forces. Both commanders were killed on both sides.

        Something here you do not agree.
        Was an Israeli special forces group going to install some equipment in Gaza and ambushed?
        Gaza is not a desert, but a densely populated area, it just doesn’t work out through the sector. In fact, the special forces were waiting, then there was some kind of agreement. Here again questions. Colonel’s level, I was most likely meeting with someone from the ranks of big rank, I doubt that Colonels even in Israel are included in the special forces for installing eavesdropping.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 18 November 2018 18: 01
          +7
          You are fantasizing. This is not the first such operation. Special forces are constantly operating in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria. Sometimes they are discovered and ambushed. And this happened in Lebanon.
          In short-range shootings, there are always large losses on both sides. Our special forces are ALWAYS led by high-ranking commanders. This is the tradition of the IDF.
          1. Maz
            Maz 18 November 2018 19: 54
            +7
            Quote: voyaka uh
            You are fantasizing. This is not the first such operation. Special forces are constantly operating in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria. Sometimes they are discovered and ambushed. And this happened in Lebanon.
            In short-range shootings, there are always large losses on both sides. Our special forces are ALWAYS led by high-ranking commanders. This is the tradition of the IDF.

            And we have the most experienced heads.
          2. dr.star75
            dr.star75 18 November 2018 21: 21
            +7
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Our special forces are ALWAYS led by high-ranking commanders. This is the tradition of the IDF.

            Not the best tradition! People aged have worse physical data, and including them in shock units is a deliberate weakening of the group. hi Israel probably knows better.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 18 November 2018 22: 00
          -2
          their colonels also brooms in dresses, in barracks, waved - they have equality, without hazing.
          not everyone said, and the whole truth will remain at the hands of the IDF and the government. live without our participation. as deemed necessary
          1. parkello
            parkello 19 November 2018 11: 28
            0
            what does hazing and wave a broom? a broom is picked up by any man who respects himself and his place, because no matter how you say it, but if you don’t take it yourself, you have to pay at least with money so that others would take away for you, and this work is well paid. no one will clean other people's shit for a penny. if you want to be removed, pay as much as you ask, or drown in a pile of your shit. I think that not a single self-respecting man will live in dirt and unsanitary conditions. our captain also often cleaned, with us ... we clean and he is with us. and in general the cleanest barracks and toilets in our country. in the Greek army ... it’s nice to serve there. It’s just nice when you see. That everything that you do by someone is appreciated and not for a penny, but at its true worth.
      4. tomket
        tomket 18 November 2018 23: 37
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        A prominent Hamas commander led an ambush on Israeli special forces. Both commanders were killed on both sides.

        And isn't it possible for the colonel to run wiretaps by rank? Well, in the sense of the colonels, they are already old, and there you have to run, shoot, again, they can kill. Or are the ranks there simply equated to the colonel? Well, he is like a colonel, but still young and fresh. And the title is just like that, for uniqueness. As an aviator for example.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 November 2018 17: 51
          -1
          Quote: tomket
          And doesn’t the Colonel have to install wiretaps according to the rank? Well, in the sense of colonels, they are already aged

          35-40 years
    2. Machito
      Machito 18 November 2018 17: 32
      +2
      Israel can not bomb Syria because of the S-400, pressing the Gaza Strip.
      The main thing is not to sit idle.
      1. Halado Romane
        Halado Romane 18 November 2018 18: 23
        +3
        In this whole story, one thing is clear — the operation ended in failure. The parties will naturally hush up uncomfortable moments for themselves.
    3. Maz
      Maz 18 November 2018 19: 53
      +2
      In nitanyahu, the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. Then the dolby must be removed faster
    4. flicker
      flicker 18 November 2018 20: 19
      +2
      So did they set a wiretap or removed the Hamas leader?
      It is possible that the leader of Hamas was Lieutenant Colonel M. And the belligerent Lieberman of him (a well-conspired agent) also banged ... well, and then he received a kick from the post of minister. It is strange that, on the one hand, it is reported that the body of the lieutenant colonel was returned, but the name of the hero is not disclosed. Netanyahu does say that someday (what kind of secrecy?) They will talk about Lt. Col. M.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 19 November 2018 00: 36
        +2
        Quote: flicker
        It is strange that, on the one hand, it is reported that the body of the lieutenant colonel was returned, but the name of the hero is not disclosed. Netanyahu does say that someday (what kind of secrecy?) They will talk about Lt. Col. M.

        Because with a high probability this is Diza Tsakhal, the change of Minister of Defense took place undercover! In the media, the Jews said that the lieutenant colonel died during a shootout, causing fire on himself, so that the soldiers in the car had time to go out and join the battle. And another officer was injured while trying to pull out a lieutenant colonel, but it was too late .... a strange story, and even a Jewish one ..... yes
    5. XXXIII
      XXXIII 19 November 2018 00: 48
      +2
      Quote: Slavs
      So did they set a wiretap or removed the Hamas leader? Am I confusing something?

      Qatar’s money was shared, which Qatar handed over to the Jews, so that they would give Hamas, so the Jews fought, classic ..... yes
  2. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 18 November 2018 17: 16
    +1
    There is nothing to click when you climb enemy territory.
    They also lost a whole lieutenant colonel. It would be interesting to know the losses on both sides.
    Interestingly, the Israeli Special Forces decided to evacuate the bodies of dead soldiers?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 18 November 2018 17: 38
      +4
      I’m sure that it’s accepted. It’s like the law. However, this applies not only to the Israelis. Throwing the body of his comrade .. There is a good reason for the death.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 November 2018 17: 40
      +6
      All were evacuated. The commander of the group died. His deputy is wounded.
      Hamas killed 7 people, including both commanders.
      1. Maz
        Maz 18 November 2018 19: 57
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        failure

        That is seven to two. Given the absolute technical superiority of the Israelis and arrogance, not bad for Hamas.
      2. flicker
        flicker 18 November 2018 20: 09
        -1
        Hamas killed 7 people, including both commanders.
        It is believed that Lieutenant Colonel M. was one of the two Hamas commanders, a well-concealed Israeli agent. Like, and because Lieberman got a pendel because he raised the aircraft and flunked Hamas, among whom was Lieutenant Colonel M.?
        Ask if this is so.
      3. XXXIII
        XXXIII 19 November 2018 00: 41
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Hamas killed 7 people, including both commanders.

        Confirm the facts squeeze? And then FIG knows, who died, Tsahal dizu threw, and Hamas played along ..... Video special operations have not yet been shown on Jewish TV?
    3. 1 Navigator
      1 Navigator 18 November 2018 17: 43
      0
      Yes. For this, there is a special forces team of 669 flying cats. They were engaged in the evacuation of this group. They took everyone.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 18 November 2018 20: 19
        0
        "They took everyone" - is that according to their Jewish report?
        I believe, of course.
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 18 November 2018 18: 39
      +8
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      Interestingly, the Israeli Special Forces decided to evacuate the bodies of dead soldiers?

      This is a prerequisite for all scouts (SP). In the history of Israel’s special forces there is a case when the body of Art. l-that - the commander of a deep intelligence group. So the Israelis conducted a special operation to capture the leaders of Hamas, whose bodies were then exchanged for the body of the commander. Otherwise, it is impossible: everyone who goes behind enemy lines must be sure that his comrades will never leave him, even dead, on a foreign land. soldier
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 18 November 2018 18: 43
        +2
        This is a prerequisite for all scouts (SP)


        This I know, it is interesting to know the traditions of the Israelis)

        Although I know that far from the homeland they could have left the body of a scout / saboteur, as it’s expensive to carry, jeopardizing the execution of the task and the whole group. There are nuances.
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 November 2018 07: 41
          -1
          Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
          Although I know that far from the homeland they could have left the body of a scout / saboteur, as it’s expensive to carry, jeopardizing the execution of the task and the whole group. There are nuances.

          We can declare that this is not our fighter and was dismissed from the ranks "long before the operation." It is possible, as in 2006, to carry the body of the deceased to Israel for 30 km. You can exchange the bodies of two Israeli soldiers for:
          In exchange, Israel released from prison the well-known Lebanese terrorist Samir Kuntar, who was sentenced in 1979 to four life sentences for the murder of an Israeli family, as well as four Hezbollah militants. Israel also pledged to hand over the bodies of 185 Palestinian and Lebanese militants and 12 more Hezbollah militants killed in the Second Lebanese War, and a dossier of the fate of four Iranian diplomats who were captured by Lebanese Phalangist Christians in 1982.

          There are nuances, but we never give up our anywhere and never.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 19 November 2018 08: 15
            +1
            Depends on the circumstances. In 1973, during a retreat in the Golan, the body of the murdered kid was left, and his machine gun was taken. Then the parents of the murdered were presented to the commander of the unit, but even he could convince them of his innocence. I watched an interview with them on channel XNUMX, in my opinion. Before Yom Kippur, six years ago, there was a transfer.
  3. svp67
    svp67 18 November 2018 17: 18
    +12
    The lieutenant colonel of the Israeli army “M” died on the night of November 12 in the area of ​​Khan Younis during the operation to install “listening equipment”, al-Haya said.
    Yeah, and who is the offender now?
  4. Doliva63
    Doliva63 18 November 2018 17: 19
    +1
    Quote: Slavs
    So did they set a wiretap or removed the Hamas leader? Am I confusing something?

    It seems that they themselves are not in the know.
  5. dr.star75
    dr.star75 18 November 2018 17: 24
    +9
    All this is strange. An entire colonel climbed into the depths of enemy territory, and died. And after that, the Minister of Defense resigned. It looks like something else .....
    1. Machito
      Machito 18 November 2018 17: 33
      +2
      Before that, the GDP was talking to Beney in Paris.
  6. Jerk
    Jerk 18 November 2018 17: 26
    +1
    Most likely, both of them breach. It is unlikely that a special forces group went to put on a wiretap, this is not a James Bond film and the operation is not in the metropolis, but in the frontline zone. Well, the six-pointed ones always simply flare, you can remind them, for example, of a tale about the impenetrable vein cumpole of their leaders, who shot down all missiles, and that they didn’t hit them, they never get on the buses.
    1. ANCIENT
      ANCIENT 18 November 2018 17: 44
      +4
      well, `` bullshit '', this is not literal lol , but give false information, so it will be more accurate hi Especially the Israelis never admit, like the United States, that the operation failed miserably. It remains to shoot the film lol about the depleted division of the full Hamas along with a full-time weapon-carriage of bricks, and a million slingshots. wassat
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 November 2018 17: 56
        +10
        "The Israelis will never admit, like the United States, that the operation has failed miserably" ////
        ----
        It was in these words that the representative of the army said about the operation: "the failed spetsnaz operation." What is there to hide?
        1. ANCIENT
          ANCIENT 18 November 2018 18: 02
          +3
          warrior hi -At least the courage was enough to confess, and that probably because at every corner in Palestine only the deaf and dumb did not shout about the operation you failed. am
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 18 November 2018 18: 06
            +11
            About failed covert operations ALWAYS shout. This is a sensation for the press. Why is it strange?
            1. ANCIENT
              ANCIENT 18 November 2018 18: 10
              +3
              warrior hi -You simply greatly underestimate Hamas, and your elite is completely ignoring even the thought that you can get a rebuff, unlike those who are closer to the soldiers in the state and know the opposite side better.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 18 November 2018 18: 16
                +7
                Our "top" - Nataniyahu, in his youth he himself participated in such firefights behind enemy lines. He was a machine gunner in the special forces. We are clearly aware of the risks and losses and go to them if necessary.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 18 November 2018 18: 34
                  0
                  laughing ... in Matkal’s saaret, everyone is a master machine gunner at the KMB, and they pass it at the Airborne Forces along with the airborne assault. In part, Natanyaga was an officer, and participated in the release of hostages and in the abduction of Syrian officers.
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Our "top" - Nataniyahu, in his youth he himself participated in such firefights behind enemy lines. He was a machine gunner in the special forces. We are clearly aware of the risks and losses and go to them if necessary.
  7. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 November 2018 17: 33
    -3
    The fact that the colonel’s name is unknown means that the Israeli colonel’s name was complete, that means they completed the task without regard to losses and did not leave their own.
  8. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 18 November 2018 17: 40
    +7
    in my opinion, the Israelis were simply not ready psychologically for a rebuff from Hamas, hence the losses. that is, there was a banal underestimation of the forces of the opposing side. just like in 2006, in southern Lebanon, they went `` with a bang '' in the hope of throwing hats on the foe , but were rebuffed and lost for several years the corporal, captured.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2018 18: 37
      -2
      Corporal in Gaza was lost, Hezbollah simply supported the Palestinians by stealing the Israeli military on the international border. After 2006, it did not show solidarity with Hamas.
      Quote: ANCIENT
      in my opinion, the Israelis were simply not ready psychologically for a rebuff from Hamas, hence the losses. that is, there was a banal underestimation of the forces of the opposing side. just like in 2006, in southern Lebanon, they went `` with a bang '' in the hope of throwing hats on the foe , but were rebuffed and lost for several years the corporal, captured.
    2. Leclerc
      Leclerc 18 November 2018 19: 11
      -1
      Quote: ANCIENT

      in my opinion, the Israelis were simply not psychologically ready to fight back from Hamas, hence the loss. that is, there was a banal underestimation of the forces of the opposing side


      That is, a small group armed with pistols, where half were disguised as women, climbed into the very lair of Hamas, where dozens of militants, armed to the teeth, roam, but decided to trite underestimate the enemy. Probably idiots are sitting in the Israeli command, and idiots are being recruited into the special forces, and during the preparation they were told - "Here you guys are a bag of bugs, you stick them under the tables and chairs of the Hamas, oh yes, take pistols, there will be a couple of dozen militants fully armed you can handle if that ".

      And also about the losses, in battle, of course, only moral wimps die, yeah.
  9. taiga2018
    taiga2018 18 November 2018 17: 46
    +6
    All the same, the Hamas men are great, being in a tough blockade, they manage to "twirl" the leaky dome and all the "God's chosen" special forces ... may the Almighty help them in their just struggle.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 November 2018 18: 10
      +4
      And in the taiga, it turns out, the Islamists have fans.
      Indeed, Allah is great! smile
    2. Katyusha
      Katyusha 18 November 2018 18: 19
      -2
      Quote: taiga2018
      All the same, the Hamas men are great, being in a tough blockade, they manage to "twirl" the leaky dome and all the "God's chosen" special forces ... may the Almighty help them in their just struggle.

      That is why I have no joy in the fact that the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine sometimes manage to "twirl" the chosen Russian people, albeit in the form / on the territory of the LPR. Are you not from Ukraine by any chance? Everyone there is so "happy", with very rare exceptions.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 18 November 2018 18: 24
        +6
        Quote: Katiusha
        with very few exceptions.

        Yes, only a woman is able to knock down on one heap Israel, Hamas, the republics of Donbass and the Armed Forces ... and even the Russian people ...
        1. Katyusha
          Katyusha 19 November 2018 10: 23
          -2
          Quote: taiga2018
          Yes, only a woman is able to knock down on one heap Israel, Hamas, the republics of Donbass and the Armed Forces ... and even the Russian people ...
          lol
          In fact, neocons are dumping everyone into one, targeted, profitable only for them. It is easier to manage a bunch of ideologically and traditionally zombified, albeit chaos. At this stage - play off. It's like in football - for the outside masses involved in the process, the main thing is countries, teams, players, leagues, fan clubs. But in fact, completely different uncles "play" in real football. And they, by and large, are of little interest to anyone. Well, of course - they give the masses such strong emotions to experience.
          I'm just outside the heap). Although in almost "proud" solitude, I realize.
          So with VNA Ukraine was one to one. I could only watch with bitterness.
          And amazed at the virtuoso skill of the "conductors of bloody orchestras".
          There is such a parable: how is a lion different from a dog?
          The dog growls and gets angry at a stick flying at her. Or a throwing hand.
          Leo carefully watches throwing sticks.
          Or shooting him.
          Therefore, it has a chance to survive and win, even after losing.
  10. andrewkor
    andrewkor 18 November 2018 17: 56
    +2
    I remember during the raid on Entebbe with the noble purpose of freeing the hostages the group commander Jonathan Netanyahu also died. A brilliant operation worthy of admiration !!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 November 2018 18: 07
      +2
      And in Lebanon in 90-x killed the commander of the naval special forces.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 November 2018 17: 58
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And in Lebanon in 90-x killed the commander of the naval special forces.

        Yossi Kurakin. With an interesting way of origin. At the end of the 19th century, the peasant of the village Solodniki of the Astrakhan province Agafon Kurakin, who belonged to the clean-up days, together with his followers decided to convert to the Jewish faith. Together with his wife and twelve children, he went to Vilna, where he studied at a yeshiva.

        After passing Giyur, he took the name Abraham and in 1898, as part of a large group of Jewish settlers, the first builders of the Jewish state arrived in Eretz Yisrael.

        It must be said that Abraham Kurakin was not alone in his aspirations — at that time thousands of Russian Saturday sub-workers, who wanted to merge with the Jewish people, went a similar way.
  11. vladcub
    vladcub 18 November 2018 17: 57
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    All were evacuated. The commander of the group died. His deputy is wounded.
    Hamas killed 7 people, including both commanders.

    And how do you know, after all, Hamas evacuated their fighters? As a rule, Hamas are not interested in disclosing details
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 November 2018 18: 08
      +8
      Hamas, like us, does not hide its losses. And Hezbollah too. Bury publicly and with honor.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 18 November 2018 18: 42
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Hamas, like us, does not hide its losses. And Hezbollah too. Bury publicly and with honor.


        Hamas does not hide the loss of legendary commanders. The halo of martyrs is shuada. And the number of dead soldiers during conflicts such as 2012 and 2014 is almost always hidden. Hezbollah is the same.
      2. flicker
        flicker 18 November 2018 19: 44
        +1
        And why is the name of the deceased lieutenant colonel still not called? Maybe he was not part of the reconnaissance group, but was built into the Hamas structure and was waiting for this group?
        Maybe Lieberman was removed because the well-conspired Israeli agent in Hamas’s structure perished?
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 November 2018 07: 47
          -2
          Quote: flicker
          And why is the name of the deceased lieutenant colonel still not called?

          We’ll call the name and the Khamsovites will calculate from the photograph where and with whom he met in Gaza. Continue?
          By the way, from 2006, a photograph of another officer who died then in Lebanon is not published. For the same reason.
          1. flicker
            flicker 19 November 2018 11: 50
            0
            We’ll call the name and the Khamsovites will calculate from the photograph where and with whom he met in Gaza.
            Here I am about the same. Chances are that Lieutenant Colonel M. was not a commandos, but an agent deployed in Hamas. It could be that the Israeli special forces were sent to Gaza for failure, for the career growth of the implanted agent of Lieutenant Colonel M. But Avig got excited, sent airplanes and razed the Hamasites and special forces and Lieutenant Colonel M., who had been deployed for several years, and Lieberman took all these efforts in one fell swoop crossed out ... from an overabundance of love for Israel. bully
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 November 2018 12: 01
              0
              Quote: flicker
              We’ll call the name and the Khamsovites will calculate from the photograph where and with whom he met in Gaza.
              Here I am about the same. Chances are that Lieutenant Colonel M. was not a commandos, but an agent deployed in Hamas. It could be that the Israeli special forces were sent to Gaza for failure, for the career growth of the implanted agent of Lieutenant Colonel M. But Avig got excited, sent airplanes and razed the Hamasites and special forces and Lieutenant Colonel M., who had been deployed for several years, and Lieberman took all these efforts in one fell swoop crossed out ... from an overabundance of love for Israel. bully

              I don't discuss conspiracy theories. Our commanders always command "behind me", not "forward." Therefore, they die first. By the way, senior officers often take part in special operations themselves. For example Ehud Barak being colonel personally landed in Beirut. By the way, he was dressed in a woman’s dress and made up for a young lady.
              1. flicker
                flicker 19 November 2018 12: 19
                0
                senior officers often take part in special operations themselves. For example, Ehud Barak as a colonel personally landed in Beirut. By the way, he was dressed in a woman’s dress and made up for a young lady.
                This is understandable and understandable, but if he had been killed and buried in Israel during a special operation, his name would not have been hidden. And here they are hiding, so it’s not about the commandos, but about the agent. They hide the names of the introduced agents in order not to jeopardize all the agents ... plus they removed Lieberman (when the Minister of Defense was shot in Israel for extreme military activity request ) But they did it, so there were reasons. After the provocation that caused the death of the Russian aircraft was not removed, but now it is suddenly removed.
                It means that Avig shook Israel very much. With what? The fact that 160 Hamas objects destroyed? So for this they give a hero in Israel, but here suddenly a kick in the ass lol
                It seems that he flunked a very valuable Israeli agent in Hamas.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 19 November 2018 12: 38
                  -2
                  Quote: flicker
                  This is understandable and understandable, but if he had been killed and buried in Israel during a special operation, his name would not have been hidden. And here they are hiding, so it’s not about the commandos, but about the agent.

                  Do you declare this having experience and information about Israeli operations or making tracing paper from your Solberev tourists?

                  Quote: flicker
                  The names of the introduced agents are hidden, so as not to endanger the entire agent ...

                  Yah? Look foudou.

                  Quote: flicker
                  plus they removed Lieberman (when in Israel they removed the Minister of Defense for extreme military activity

                  Who shot it?

                  Quote: flicker
                  It means that Avig shook Israel very much.

                  Who is Avig? Hi?

                  Quote: flicker
                  It seems that he flunked a very valuable Israeli agent in Hamas.

                  Seem to be? Fy leave your fantasies for yourself.
                  1. flicker
                    flicker 19 November 2018 13: 04
                    +1
                    Seem to be? Fy leave your fantasies for yourself.
                    good Your reaction indicates that you hit the mark bully
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 November 2018 18: 04
                      -2
                      Quote: flicker
                      Your reaction indicates that you hit the mark

                      No, just nonsense is sometimes surprising. There most likely all is easier. Colonel - Druze, and his name and surname even on social networks managed to pull apart. Friends are more vulnerable - there are relatives in Arab countries, for a number of reasons it is easier to get a family, especially if it is somewhere in the north, where Druze often live alongside Arabs. Apparently, it was decided not to aggravate.
                      1. flicker
                        flicker 19 November 2018 20: 03
                        0
                        just stupid things sometimes surprise.
                        Here I am about the same.
                        The colonel is a friend, and his name and surname even on social networks managed to pull apart. Druze are more vulnerable - there are relatives in the Arab countries, for a number of reasons it is easier to get a family
                        Yeah, the only druze who died in the IDF? You never know where druze could die (to explode on a mine, the ticket office got into it, etc. etc.). The argument is very dubious. In addition, they are confused how he died (either in a shootout, then Israeli aircraft covered). Netanyahu says that someday you can talk about him. And finally, because of the Druze, the Minister of Defense is not removed.
                    2. Professor
                      Professor 19 November 2018 18: 16
                      -1
                      Quote: flicker
                      Seem to be? Fy leave your fantasies for yourself.
                      good Yours reaction indicates that hit the top ten bully

                      My surprise at your fantasies?
                      1. flicker
                        flicker 19 November 2018 19: 46
                        0
                        Israel certainly has no agents in Hamas. The Israeli agent in Hamas is a fantasy, the Israeli secret services are not capable of this.
                        Once again, since when has the Israeli Minister of Defense been removed for bombing and killing Palestinians?
                        Probably messed up somewhere, and much.
                        The death of the Palestinians disappears, the death of Lieutenant Colonel M. remains. Special forces often die for this, the defense ministers are not removed. This means that the lieutenant colonel is not a commando, but with a high degree of probability the introduced agent, who was banged by the Israeli Air Force on the orders of Lieberman.
                        It could have been introduced for about 10 years, it went through a bunch of checks, probably the Israeli special forces should have personally neutralized and promoted. Here Lieberman chicked it. bully
                        This is much more like the truth than a bike about the tough commando of Lieutenant Colonel M. because of whose death they gave a pendell to the whole Minister of Defense.
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 19 November 2018 20: 03
                        -3
                        Quote: flicker
                        Once again, since when has the Israeli Minister of Defense been removed for bombing and killing Palestinians?

                        Who shot it? fool
                        You are bored. I do not read or feed further.
                      3. flicker
                        flicker 19 November 2018 21: 10
                        +1
                        Who shot it?
                        laughing "he's a monument" ... well, yes, well, yes ... he himself left laughing roofing felts bored, roofing felts conscience tortured ... yeah, I already see and hear: "I'm tired, I'm leaving!" (Agvidor Lieberman) bully
      3. SS-18 Satan
        SS-18 Satan 18 November 2018 22: 40
        +4
        Time plays against Israel, Jews need peace. But Israel believes that they should come to peace under Israeli conditions. And this is state terrorism,
        under slogans of protection, Jews breed terrorists almost everywhere, even in Nigeria.
        Living in a small glass house and throwing stones at neighbors' windows is politics
        Israel in recent years.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 19 November 2018 09: 12
          0
          Quote: SS-18 Satan
          Time plays against Israel, Jews need peace. But Israel believes that they should come to peace under Israeli conditions

          IMHO: Why, interestingly, many are so concerned about the fate of Israel, if they are not Jews, Arabs, etc.? Personally I’m only interested in the fact that Israel did not suffer the deserved punishment for the downed plane. And why are they with the Arabs and Iran, for example, I am not particularly interested. After the incident with the plane, I have no confidence in them (Israel) at all. But to the Arab countries and Iran, it never happened. But there is so much attention to Israel, as if most of the users, citizens of this very Israel ... request
          1. Katyusha
            Katyusha 19 November 2018 10: 35
            -1
            After the incident with the plane, I have no confidence in them (Israel) at all.

            For this they shot down.
            The Naglo-Saxons have in-country problems in phases of historically unprecedented apofigey. Teresa May is already almost at the Brexit bonfire. Trump still holds on to a democratic one, and even wins slightly, in Congress, a light knocked down a sloness. But America is already in a civil confrontation - like California is on fire now. Only invisible - while smoldering.
            Traditionally, the Naglo-Saxons need Russia to get out. In the flames of war. I don’t care what. Even with space aliens. The main thing is in Eurasia. Israel is also suitable, especially since it is also actively ready to "substitute" itself.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 19 November 2018 11: 08
              -1
              "intracountry problems in the phases of a historically unprecedented apophigia" ////
              ----
              I apologize for your post! good
              But I admit in-country that I am in the phase of non-combustion in the Brexitov bonfire.
              I wish you further literary records! drinks
              1. Katyusha
                Katyusha 19 November 2018 11: 15
                0
                Are you from Merkava so boldly boldly broadcasting, or what? repeat
                And here I was frightening myself for the London Finnish Vatican, that is City.
                Still burned, poor fellow)).
                It’s impossible to listen to the Air Force right now - there’s a solid bonfire right now))
                For wishes - Toda! drinks
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 19 November 2018 11: 28
                  -1
                  "I've been worried about the London FinVatican, that is, the City." /////
                  -----
                  Keep your savings in British pounds? sad Sorry. But if you can hold out for about 5 years, then the pound will win back, opposite the euro. So they say ...
                  1. Katyusha
                    Katyusha 20 November 2018 15: 40
                    0
                    No, so far in the shekels mostly. lol
                    What will the 5 pound give? Just wondering. After all, nothing lasts forever - if the current City does not survive Brexit, then NewCity will already be somewhere else. Then the pound is goodbye.
        2. jack
          jack 19 November 2018 13: 55
          0
          Quote: SS-18 Satan
          Time plays against Israel

          He has been playing for 70 years ..)
          Jews need peace

          But doesn’t the world need the Jews?
          But Israel believes that they should come to peace under the conditions of Israel.

          Can not be! bully
  12. Katyusha
    Katyusha 18 November 2018 18: 14
    0
    Maybe the money was accompanied. News 9-11.11
    "The Qatari government has transferred $ 15 million to the Palestinian Authority through its ambassador (US money?).
    The money will be used to pay salaries to civil servants in the Gaza Strip. The transfer of money was agreed with the Israeli authorities. The Israeli leadership warned that financial resources should not be at the disposal of the radical Hamas group.
    This ambassador’s mobility scheme requires much more interaction between the Israeli and Qatar authorities.than if the money was transported from Jordan.
    According to the Israeli TV channel, on Sunday, November 11, Muhammad al-Emadi left the Gaza Strip. However, he refused to travel to Ramallah. "
    1. loki565
      loki565 18 November 2018 19: 57
      -1
      And this is Serge13, it was already rolled out in C200 and showed who he really was)))


      1. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 18 November 2018 23: 15
        -1
        who rolled Serge? is that masked boy? don’t tell, the boy is delirious, trying to touch every word, as a result of trying to challenge he himself starts to get confused and sometimes even comes to the same point that Serge was talking about.
        I am not a fan of Serge, in some things I strongly disagree with him, but he definitely does not, and it is precisely Serge about the air defense system (if only because he served as a conscript in the USSR air defense) much more than this very "boy in a mask"
        1. loki565
          loki565 19 November 2018 00: 17
          +1
          Serge empty-handed and high-ranking, when they begin to give him specific information about the complex on which he allegedly served, he immediately begins to swim, bustle. Yes, and MVM grew up in a closed town, with his father as a military pilot. So do not be surprised if he has more knowledge than this balabol)))
          1. SASHA OLD
            SASHA OLD 19 November 2018 01: 04
            0
            yes, I do not stand up for Serge, it was just that the boy in the mask did not "smash" him, Serge and I "bite" in the comments for our IL, and I did not use a single obscene word, but he preferred to delete my post (and, accordingly, our dispute with him ). This masked boy is an ordinary upstart who made a channel based on the knowledge of his pilot father: he invites his acquaintances to streams, for example ... But this seemed to him not enough and he began to engage in "exposures" and took up a larger channel to attract an audience - is this not hype ??
            so who is hypohor?
            I repeat: I do not stand up for Serge - I just do not like such upstarts as a masked boy
            1. loki565
              loki565 19 November 2018 01: 13
              +1
              The MVM is doing everything right, you need to dunk the nose of such experts as this Serge, maybe someone from his audience will open his eyes))). Look at the names of the videos of this Serge, that it’s not a movie that clickbey clickbait drives)))
              1. Katyusha
                Katyusha 19 November 2018 10: 52
                0
                I cited Serge as a reference to the amateurishly unearthing a possible reason for the new escalation: another agreement on the Gaza Strip with US dollars. It is very similar to the truth - both contracting parties used their own, most likely familiar with each other, "cool guys" to transfer money "NOT to Hamas." Which Hamas will like THAT?
                And in the case of the crippled Russians, nobody said anything better than Alksnis, in my amateurish opinion. And it is difficult to suspect him of pro-Israeli sympathies and military-engineering-dynastic unprofessionalism.
  13. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 18 November 2018 18: 16
    -4
    It smacks of anti-Semitism. (C)
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    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 18 November 2018 18: 40
      +1
      Phenomenally! Rosenbaum did not try to submit ideas?
  15. Professor
    Professor 18 November 2018 18: 21
    -4
    According to him, the resistance fighters showed vigilance and thwarted this operation.

    The group has already been disclosed on the way home. Mission accomplished, albeit with losses. Hamas showed only a silenced pistol as trophies. No eavesdropping equipment was presented.
    1. Rusj
      Rusj 18 November 2018 18: 23
      +3
      Brother! I Remember you are always under the Jewish Flag!
    2. Katyusha
      Katyusha 19 November 2018 10: 56
      0
      Hamas showed only a silenced pistol as trophies.

      Are they fools? Show 15 green lyam to everyone?
  16. flicker
    flicker 18 November 2018 18: 51
    +2
    The lieutenant colonel of the Israeli army M. died on the night of November 12 in the area of ​​the settlement of Khan Younis during the operation to install "listening equipment"
    Well, yes, to whom, if not a lieutenant colonel, you should set up a wiretap, you won’t trust corporal ... I think it would be more correct to send Lieberman.
    During the ensuing battle, Israeli Lieutenant Colonel M.
    Why, they assured me that the lieutenant colonel was taken prisoner, so that he didn’t blame him too much, his own aviation, together with the Hamas, ... nullified it.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2018 19: 14
      -3
      At the same time, a body torn by a rocket or bomb was delivered to Israel. For a funeral.
      1. flicker
        flicker 18 November 2018 19: 20
        -1
        Already buried? And the last name reported?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 November 2018 23: 17
          -3
          Buried for a long time, the surname will not be reported
  17. cockroaches
    cockroaches 18 November 2018 19: 57
    0
    Quote: taiga2018
    All the same, the Hamas men are great, being in a tough blockade, they manage to "twirl" the leaky dome and all the "God's chosen" special forces ... may the Almighty help them in their just struggle.

    Hamas Mazday
  18. bolt
    bolt 18 November 2018 20: 52
    +6
    The liquid Zionist went. Whether business before. To the attacks - alone !!! That David Frankfurter, that Herschel Grinspan ...

    And now "install wiretapping" - a crowd of special forces. With a colonel in charge and air support.

    The next time, judging by the results of this raid, the microphones will be installed after a weekly bombardment by forces of a mechanized brigade, and the Minister of Defense will lead.

    PS The professor, as always, is inimitable. They killed a lot of people, and he - the main thing is that the microphones were not found.
    Professor, I wonder how the Palestinians found out why the special forces actually came to them? From your comments on "VO"?
    1. Professor
      Professor 19 November 2018 07: 31
      -3
      Quote: crashing
      Professor, I wonder how the Palestinians found out why the special forces actually came to them? From your comments on "VO"?

      Decided to troll or really decided to find out?
      1. bolt
        bolt 19 November 2018 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: crashing
        Professor, I wonder how the Palestinians found out why the special forces actually came to them? From your comments on "VO"?

        Decided to troll or really decided to find out?


        I have no habit of "trolling", as you put it, on blood?

        I just cannot understand a person who sees some kind of "success" in this monstrous failure, which led to such an aggravation of the situation around his own country and such an increase in the danger for his own citizens.
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 November 2018 13: 57
          -3
          Quote: crashing
          Professor, I wonder, how did the Palestinians know why the special forces had come to them, in fact?

          They noticed a car in which men and women were sitting. This attracted their attention. They stopped the car for inspection. They asked to proceed for further investigation without realizing that they had special forces in front of them. Well, it started ...

          Quote: crashing
          I just cannot understand a person who sees some kind of "success" in this monstrous failure, which led to such an aggravation of the situation around his own country and such an increase in the danger for his own citizens.

          A monstrous failure, this is the poisoning of the Skripals. And they did not achieve the goals and they themselves were lit. And here, despite the sweating, the goal was achieved.
          About the "mass of people" is your imagination. Loss of one person.
          1. bolt
            bolt 19 November 2018 15: 28
            +1
            Quote: Professor

            .
            ... About the "mass of people" is your imagination. Loss of one person.


            And the dead Palestinians?
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 November 2018 15: 32
              -2
              Quote: crashing
              Quote: Professor

              .
              ... About the "mass of people" is your imagination. Loss of one person.


              And the dead Palestinians?

              The terrorists have no nationality and they are not at all a "mass of people", but artifacts and bastards and their place in hell.
              1. bolt
                bolt 19 November 2018 17: 06
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: crashing
                Quote: Professor

                .
                ... About the "mass of people" is your imagination. Loss of one person.


                And the dead Palestinians?

                The terrorists have no nationality and they are not at all a "mass of people", but artifacts and bastards and their place in hell.


                Do you know their names? What is their crime? Is it proven in court? Or for you, in general, any Palestinian is a terrorist who can and should be killed because he -

                ... a freak and a bastard and a place for him in hell?
                1. Professor
                  Professor 19 November 2018 18: 19
                  -3
                  Quote: crashing
                  Do you know their names? What is their crime? Is it proven in court? Or for you, in general, any Palestinian is a terrorist who can and should be killed because he -

                  Names? Of course I know. Hamas terrorist organization published them.

                  Quote: crashing
                  What is their crime? Is it proven in court?

                  Proven and repeatedly. And not only in the Israeli court.

                  Quote: crashing
                  Or for you, in general, any Palestinian is a terrorist who can and should be killed because he -

                  Quote: Professor
                  Terrorists have no nationality and they are not "a mass of people" at all, but bastards and bastards and their place in hell.
                  1. bolt
                    bolt 19 November 2018 23: 20
                    +1
                    Quote: Professor

                    Names? Of course I know. Hamas terrorist organization published them.

                    Proven and repeatedly. And not only in the Israeli court.



                    End your racist demagoguery. Where, when, and by what court were specific people convicted of being killed by Israeli terrorist criminals. What punishment did the court determine for them?
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 20 November 2018 07: 40
                      -1
                      Quote: crashing
                      End your racist demagoguery.

                      Eliminated terrorists belonged to a different race? Did they have a different skin color?

                      Quote: crashing
                      Where, when, and by what court were specific people convicted of being killed by Israeli terrorist criminals.

                      Specific terrorists attacked our tourists and our citizens had to defend themselves.
                      Regarding the "criminals" - Where, when and by what court were specific people convicted?

                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      I agree. So those who framed the Russian plane took part in the death of the Russian guys:

                      Do you mean the flight director who sent the plane to the line of fire?

                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      And we remember that.

                      Well, nice. The main thing is not to forget whose rocket and who specifically shot down your plane. hi
              2. Tank hard
                Tank hard 19 November 2018 20: 29
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Terrorists have no nationality

                I agree. So those who framed the Russian plane took part in the death of the Russian guys:
                Quote: Professor
                geeks and bastards and a place for them in hell.

                And we remember that. yes
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  20. SS-18 Satan
    SS-18 Satan 18 November 2018 22: 32
    +5
    During the latest Israeli conflict with the Gaza Strip on November 11-12 due to another attempt by Israel to carry out a terrorist operation in the Gaza Strip by Israeli special forces, which was discovered and partially liquidated there,
    within one day, another state of Israel war broke out with the Gaza Strip surrounded and blocked by it. Israeli rockets destroyed 160 objects in the Gaza Strip.

    460 rockets were launched from Gaza towards Israel, of which only 106 were intercepted by Israel's vaunted Iron Dome air defense systems.

    It turned out that these systems could not intercept salvo launches of unguided rockets and shells. This can be compared to the actions of the Syrian Pantsir and Tor air defense systems in Syria, which repelled the simultaneous strike of hundreds of maneuvering American cruise missiles.

    Following a promise by Gaza leaders to strike at Ben-Gurion Israel Airport, hostilities between Israel and the Gaza Strip were discontinued.
    1. SS-18 Satan
      SS-18 Satan 18 November 2018 22: 33
      +4
      In the near future, the state of Israel will inevitably lose its military superiority over neighboring countries, which is actually happening today. This means that further unilateral and unpunished aggressive actions by Israel against Syria and the Palestinians will become impossible in the future.
      1. japs
        japs 19 November 2018 00: 02
        +1
        Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. (with)
        They will adopt the tactics of Urkopitheks.
        Enemies will shell themselves ...
        1. SS-18 Satan
          SS-18 Satan 19 November 2018 01: 09
          +3
          “There are no parallels between the past and the future. There is only memory. And there are historical lessons. " (from)
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 November 2018 23: 32
      -2
      In Syria, yes - 70% of the missiles intercepted, 100% of the targets destroyed. Not that in Israel - out of 460 issued by Palestinians, 4 went through the cities. He killed a Palestinian guest worker from Hebron, who was in Israeli Ashkelon. Peace be upon him.
      1. SS-18 Satan
        SS-18 Satan 18 November 2018 23: 36
        +5
        don’t inspire yourself ... what is not.
        460 rockets were launched from Gaza towards Israel, of which only 106 were intercepted by Israel's vaunted Iron Dome air defense systems. It turned out that these systems could not intercept salvo launches of unguided rockets and shells.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 18 November 2018 23: 39
          -6
          I don’t argue.)) Of the 460 missiles, 4 hit the settlements. And a holey dome knocked down 106 from 110 flying through the cities. But 354 passed, only four hit the target, who argues that laughing
          1. SS-18 Satan
            SS-18 Satan 19 November 2018 00: 29
            +2
            but why did Benya take over as Minister of Defense? no one to instruct? or not whom to trust?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 19 November 2018 00: 59
              -2
              Lieberman decided to show that he was a macho man and did not agree with the decision to terminate the operation in Gaza. The acquisition of political capital. Without doing this, already in the next election would be NIKEM.
          2. Professor
            Professor 19 November 2018 07: 34
            -2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            I don’t argue.)) Of the 460 missiles, 4 hit the settlements. And a holey dome knocked down 106 from 110 flying through the cities. But 354 passed, only four hit the target, who argues that laughing

            It is said full of holes, then full of holes. Do not even try to argue, because it is known that Israel is hiding losses. They even have such an article in the Criminal Code. "About disclosure of losses ...". Although it is not with them.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 19 November 2018 07: 43
              -1
              Etat was bathing in the holes of the Gay Parade in Amsterdam. I suggest the hexagons are being built by the Palestinian patriots from Hisbullah, to give the Syrian to the Dutch heights, and the FSA embassy is pyrenisty abratna in Haifa.
        2. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 19 November 2018 11: 09
          -1
          Quote: SS-18 Satan
          460 missiles were launched, of which only 106 were intercepted by vaunted Israeli systems

          Good day everyone, it's not that it's not only 460 out of 106. The operation of the "dome" is calculated in such a way that the system detects a flying missile and determines the area of ​​the expected hit - and if important objects are not found in this area, the anti-missile is not launched at all. very smart solution to save ammunition.
  21. Syroitel_nik
    Syroitel_nik 19 November 2018 00: 13
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    And in the taiga, it turns out, the Islamists have fans.
    Indeed, Allah is great! smile

    Enemy of my enemy, remember?
  22. rotfuks
    rotfuks 19 November 2018 05: 30
    +2
    apparently the Israeli colonel was going to install similar equipment installed to listen to Zakharchenko in the DPR. This is a very unique equipment. Several of these instruments were filmed by the DPR special services. The equipment is controlled remotely and even the camcorder is mounted. The signal is transmitted not through regular GSM networks, but through the American Iridium satellite. Castrylegolovs just can not create such equipment.
  23. DeGreen
    DeGreen 19 November 2018 22: 57
    +1
    One less