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Will Ramzan Kadyrov and Yunusbek Evkurov meet in court?

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Events of the past week showedthat the border dispute between the Chechen and Ingush republics is far from over.


Recall that the modern conflict between these two subjects of the Russian Federation has arisen over mutual territorial claims and has been periodically aggravated over the past few years.

26 September 2018 of the year Ramzan Kadyrov and Yunus-Bek Yevkurov (heads of Chechnya and Ingushetia respectively) signed an agreement on securing a joint administrative border, which was not properly demarcated earlier, but this caused mass protests in cities and villages of Ingushetia. Part of the Ingush people considered this agreement illegal, allegedly giving priority to the territorial claims of Chechnya "on the ancient Ingush lands".

Will Ramzan Kadyrov and Yunusbek Evkurov meet in court?

A map showing the development of the current situation in the territorial dispute between Chechnya and Ingushetia


The local authorities reasonably refused to disperse protest demonstrations by force, although it came before the shooting into the air from the law enforcement forces, and according to some sources, even to separate subdivisions of the republican government from individual units of the local police. However, despite the very liberal approach on the part of the authorities to the statements of the protesters, it was not possible to reassure those who went to rallies.

At the end of October, the First World Congress of the Ingush People opened in Nazran, which was attended by about 700 delegates from 15 regions of Russia and from 7 from other countries. Also, gatherings of local communities and tapes took place throughout Ingushetia, where “deputies of the Ingush people” were also elected.

As a result, on October 30, the head of Ingushetia refused to recognize the local court’s decision on borders with Chechnya as legal (the Ingush Constitutional Court earlier recognized a number of provisions of the pleasant law that contradicted the Constitution of the republic) and 8 asked the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation to assess it as and the law on its ratification (approved by the parliament of the republic).

The motivation for such a decision was that this law falls under federal jurisdiction, since affects the interests of not one, but two subjects of the Russian Federation.


Meeting room of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation


And at the end of last week it became known that the open meeting of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation will take place on November 27 2018 in St. Petersburg. Yunus-Bek Yevkurov as the head of Ingushetia, Ramzan Kadyrov as the head of Chechnya, as well as representatives of the parliaments of both republics and even delegates of the World Congress of the Ingush people are invited to it. In addition, representatives of the federal government, the Council of the Federation, the Prosecutor General’s Office, the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation and the Ingush Constitutional Court are scheduled to attend.

Thus, we can say that the modern North Caucasian version of N.V. Gogol "How Ivan Ivanovich argued with Ivan Nikiforovich" will obviously continue in the near future. It remains only to be glad that so far this has not served as the basis for a new armed confrontation in the North Caucasus, which our long-time North Atlantic "partners" will not wait for.
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  1. New Year day
    New Year day 18 November 2018 10: 15
    0
    Yevkurov agrees with Kadyrov, why should he go to court? The Constitutional Court of Ingushenia does not agree with both, so it is the court. As I understand it, the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation is not authorized to consider the decision of the court of Ingushetia, so it turns out to be a hitch.
    1. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 18 November 2018 11: 58
      +1
      Quote: Silvestr
      Yevkurov agrees with Kadyrov, why should he go to court? The Constitutional Court of Ingushenia does not agree with both, so it is the court. As I understand it, the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation is not authorized to consider the decision of the court of Ingushetia, so it turns out to be a hitch.

      They just want to remove responsibility for the extraction of the territory from Yevkurov ...
  2. Solomon
    Solomon 18 November 2018 10: 15
    -8
    And what's the point of this ..? Borders drew in the days of the USSR by eye ... hehe.
    Well, let them figure it out, if only they did not cut each other .. We won such territories in Russia to "former" .. We do not mind, use it!
    Then we will take it back anyway laughing
    1. AUL
      AUL 18 November 2018 11: 41
      +3
      Mihan in his repertoire ...
  3. Zhora Perm
    Zhora Perm 18 November 2018 10: 25
    +5
    I just don’t understand with which bathhouse they generally began to share the land there ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 18 November 2018 10: 49
      +6
      Quote: Zhora Perm
      I just don’t understand with which bathhouse they generally began to share the land there ...

      The controversial issue of the ADMINISTRATIVE border between the two republics arose around the Sunzhensky district, which was part of both Chechnya and Ingushetia, there was no clear border in this place. Formally, the border between the republics was considered the 1934 border, but its demarcation due to existing territorial differences was not carried out and has been clearly established since the collapse of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic in 1991.
      Now, the so-called human rights organization "Choice of Ingushetia" (I. Nalgiev) fears about the construction of a highway on the territory of the State Reserve "Erzi" in the Sunzhensky region of Ingushetia, which is being carried out by Chechen organizations. Well, and then "off we go ..."
    2. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 18 November 2018 11: 44
      +6
      Quote: Zhora Permsky
      I just don’t understand with what bathhouse they generally began to share the land there ...

      Kadyrov declared himself the Sultan of the whole Caucasus, and decided that Putin allows him everything. The Ingush village of Arshty became a stumbling block. And when on September 26, 2018 Kadyrov and Yevkurov signed an agreement on the establishment of borders, the people of Ingushetia caught fire.
  4. PalBor
    PalBor 18 November 2018 10: 27
    +2
    As I understand it, the catch there is that the three Teips of the Ingush are outraged by the fact that their tribal lands are given to the Chechens. True, I am not sure if they have ownership of these lands. Here, apparently, tradition and law clashed ...
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 18 November 2018 10: 55
      +4
      Quote: PalBor
      ownership of these lands

      Earlier this right was guaranteed by a dagger, today by an automaton and proximity to someone’s body
  5. Vadim851
    Vadim851 18 November 2018 10: 29
    +3
    Do not like it. Restraint on both sides. Only one murder can result in a war and this must not be allowed by any means, people are hot,
    1. ver_
      ver_ 18 November 2018 13: 09
      +1
      . * .. but we do not care - we are not afraid of the wolf and the owl .. *.
  6. Terenin
    Terenin 18 November 2018 10: 35
    +8
    ... until this served as the basis for a new armed confrontation in the North Caucasus, which our long-standing North Atlantic partners cannot wait for.
    I am sure that they will not "wait and will not wait", but are intensively working in this direction through their emissaries in Russia and in the North Caucasus in particular ..
  7. mag nit
    mag nit 18 November 2018 10: 37
    -1
    Which court? As the king says, so be it.
    1. Alexey Novikov
      Alexey Novikov 18 November 2018 13: 31
      -1
      And then they ask me - where are you from the white-tape trolls, don’t invent it, ahaha.
  8. cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 18 November 2018 10: 38
    +4
    out of the blue they got themselves problems with this border, what was the urgency of pouring salt into the wound ?! it was necessary not to touch this issue with the border and leave it as it was ...
  9. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 18 November 2018 10: 46
    0
    they do not need to meet in court, but to communicate more with the people, and, to figure out why the police are denied, then this is not the police, but a `` gang in law in the form of the police '' /
    1. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 10: 58
      +7
      On the contrary, it’s a real people’s police who refused to beat their people who went against the government. And the people really went out into the street, which the federal media were silent about, including the majority of Ingush deputies. Who we voted against may lie, but maybe Evkurov and the people weren’t .
      1. ANCIENT
        ANCIENT 18 November 2018 11: 07
        0
        light hi -im for anyone you need to be more often near the people, and not solve everything in a cozy quiet office negative
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 11: 15
          0
          Quote: ANCIENT
          light hi -im for anyone you need to be more often near the people, and not solve everything in a cozy quiet office negative

          Cool photos in the video The Russian Guard is praying with the people, here is the video. It turns out that Yevkurov’s guards fired, and the local Rosguard did not let the military column go to the protesters.
      2. taiga2018
        taiga2018 18 November 2018 12: 01
        -3
        Quote: Lek3338
        people

        always surprising is the desire of some to declare several thousand protesters by the people ...
        Quote: Lek3338
        beat cripple

        in one neighboring country, too, they refused to "cripple" the "people", which has resulted in this for five years ...
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 12: 09
          +2
          Quote: taiga2018
          always surprising is the desire of some to declare several thousand protesters by the people ...

          And when did the majority decide the fate of the people? Maybe during the collapse of the USSR, the majority’s opinion was taken into account? So a handful are the people, if others are at home, then it’s not against the opinion of the minority. In Ukraine, by the way, two camps were Maidan and anti-Maidan from Donetsk. The second is still not agree separated. But in Ingushetia there is only one force, there is no rally in favor of separation.
          1. taiga2018
            taiga2018 18 November 2018 12: 13
            0
            Quote: Lek3338
            most

            in elections and only in elections ... just don’t have to include a liberal plate about dishonest elections ...
            Quote: Lek3338
            a bunch of people

            a bunch can not be people, a bunch can only stink ...
            1. Lekxnumx
              Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 12: 20
              +1
              Quote: taiga2018
              in elections and only in elections ... just don’t have to include a liberal plate about dishonest elections ..

              I am not a liberalist or a democrat or a monarchist. I am a realist! The elections held at one time, in which the peoples voted to preserve the USSR were taken into account?
              Are you talking about such an election? It's under cameras, and what happens with closed calculations, one who considers it is known.
              1. taiga2018
                taiga2018 18 November 2018 12: 32
                +1
                Quote: Lek3338
                I am not a liberalist or a democrat or a monarchist. I am a realist!

                that is, you are for the "power" to be formed on the street, who shouts louder, who scatters more different cocktails, sets fire to more tires, seizes and smashes administrative buildings, turns on the regime of children, and will be power ... I have no right to anyone advise, but you can move to a neighboring country (unless, of course, you already live there), there the power was formed in this way ...
                1. Lekxnumx
                  Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 12: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: taiga2018
                  that is, you are for the "power" to be formed on the street, who shouts louder, who scatters more different cocktails, sets fire to more tires, seizes and smashes administrative buildings, turns on the regime of children, and will be power ... I have no right to anyone advise, but you can move to a neighboring country (unless, of course, you already live there), there the power was formed in this way ...

                  I am a supporter of elections that are fair until the lists of voters are publicly available. After-election control, subsequent public reconciliation. If the state is legal, why are you afraid to name the full name of Putin's supporters and, for example, Katz? And the states are just not legal, they told me at work who to vote for .I did not say anything and just spat, did not participate. Further self-government and politically and economically, everyone is not just a region but a city. Posts are only for local elections of mayors, governors up to the head of the village and village. The construction of the state is not from Moscow to the regions but from regions to Moscow.
                  And then taxes go to Moscow and there they decide how to distribute. Siberia gave a million Chechnya a thousand goes to Siberia 500 000 and 501 000 to Chechnya. Such a federation is not effective and will not. The role of Moscow is ensuring security, constitutional rights, etc. The role of the people control of power. The head of the village council is elected and controlled by the 500th population, and he controls the head of the village with others and reports to his voters. And that of the city, another region, etc. All expenses are in the public domain, in the form of countdown to voters. People of the city , village, the village has the right to make a rally, and Moscow immediately referendum and remove the manager ahead of schedule IF MOST VOTES, costs from the local government budget, only control from Moscow. Paradox 140 million can not control 1 person, and 500 people can one. , there are examples. A revolution has long since taken place in the world, but it does not even reach the post of advice even at the level of consciousness.
                  1. taiga2018
                    taiga2018 18 November 2018 13: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    DOESN'T EVEN ONE LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS.

                    that is, the whole country will only be engaged in the fact that all the time to choose someone ...
                    1. Lekxnumx
                      Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 13: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: taiga2018
                      that is, the whole country will only be engaged in the fact that all the time to choose someone ...

                      No! that’s what it will do to control, let’s call the steps of control. For example, you are a tractor driver in a village with a population of 1000 voters. I chose my head of the village (manager), he works as openly as possible, all the information is on the Internet. Then he and several heads of the village like him control the head of the district and reports to his voters. It’s not necessary personally, although meetings can be held and necessary. And on the Internet, in the online forum, where a lot of problems are solved, etc. A lot of options are taken into account. Tractor driver, milkmaids, etc. are taken into account. And then he voices his opinion and votes on your behalf in the election of the head of the district. And those in the election of the head of the city, region and president. The ideal and economic transparency, the tax that you gave is the one you elected and see every day in the village. You then will not hide the income. With this money, roads, repairing schools, etc., and not waiting for years for handouts from the center. The hard worker regions live normally and the lazy people deserve it. That is, self-government, self-sufficiency, minus interest on the maintenance of the army, state structures a fixed percentage equal to today's costs. I came up with this on my knee, you can develop the idea.
                2. Lekxnumx
                  Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 13: 00
                  0
                  Is the strike of factory workers, the workers' union against the management okay? In the improvement of working conditions against the background of increased income, for example? Why are the rallies so scared? Well, the president is overthrown, will the defense capacity fall? There is an army commander, his role is to defend the country. The prosecutor is "independent" from the authorities to control the execution of laws. The police chief is to control safety but not one of them, should not protect this or that power. went to the rally what nafig fines? The head of the city should be elected so that the president does not call him "dude there is a rally against me at you, I will expel if that" (with us). But as long as there are slow-witted, it will continue. SIMPLY DICTATORSHIP wherever you turn it like that.
                  1. taiga2018
                    taiga2018 18 November 2018 13: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    Well, will the president be overthrown? Will defenses fall?

                    everything will fall, you don’t need to go further than Ukraine ...
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    The head of the city must be elected so that the president does not call him

                    that's exactly what it will lead to anarchy, when every local prince will "put" on top leadership ...
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    When the head of the Russian Guard is a former security guard, this is DICTATURE

                    I don’t give a damn who the leader of the Rosguard is, the main thing is that, in case of something, his hand does not flinch to disperse the local maydans so that they run to the homeland of this very maydaun ...
                  2. Consultant
                    Consultant 18 November 2018 13: 19
                    -1
                    Something for the "in the free time interested"

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    So I personally do not care of course, things are more important. But in my free time I’m interested in what happens in neighboring regions.

                    and "looking from Baku"

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    In general, I follow the events of Baku. Purely on the Internet

                    You think too broadly about issues that do not concern you:

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    Well, will the president be overthrown? Will defenses fall?

                    Nah ... grow immeasurably laughing

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    There is an army commander, his role is to defend the country

                    Here, somehow accidentally, it was the President who is the Commander-in-Chief, didn’t they know? wink

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    Building from the bottom, there are examples

                    Let's take your "examples" into the studio ...

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    All expenses in the public domain, in the form of countdown to voters

                    Yeah ... right down to the military. Schazz.

                    Quote: Lek3338
                    costs from the local government budget, from Moscow only control

                    And what, is everything exactly like that in Baku already, have you got any problems closer?

                    I love these advisers, they sing harmoniously ... but sometimes they get it out immeasurably.
                    1. Lekxnumx
                      Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 13: 34
                      0
                      Quote: Consultant
                      And what, is everything exactly like that in Baku already, have you got any problems closer?

                      In Az-not worse than in Russia and much more politically. Damn Consultant, I already have an economic project for the self-government of one village in Azerbaijan. Some structures are ready to pay the initial stage. I know this village even though I didn’t live there. You just need to work out all aspects. There is a village that sows dozens of hectares of land, each for its own needs (livestock) they sell the excess at a price, buy traders. Each hires his own combine harvester, tractor, truck to collect his scanty few hectares. And if we take into account the experience of state farms but with transparent economic collectivization and benefits? You gather everyone in the club, combine your efforts, calculate the expenditure of each family. You sow the land in one day, and you divide the crop as you need. You don’t sell the rest to the sellers. How much profit do you get? Divide the income, the profit for the development of the village. For some villagers need money right away. You can start from another, for example, all the villagers sell cheese, fruits, potatoes, etc. from their site. At a local bazaar for a price, while in Baku, foreign is twice as expensive. In some types of crops, the difference is 3-4 times. But what if we collect and bring wholesale to the Baku market? And get the profit for the producer and not for the traders? Who will be? Unemployed youth who is hanging around a teahouse, a car? There are at least a few in the village. That's work, and development will not work right away, not in a year but in the future. Major consolidation, and revenues will increase and the village can be developed.
                      1. Consultant
                        Consultant 18 November 2018 13: 40
                        -1
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        I already have an economic project of self-government of one village in Azerbaijan

                        Great. But this, as it were, does not give you the right to easily give recommendations to me on how to live in my country.
                        And then, the project is not implementation yet. And the village is far from the state. Is the idea clear?

                        Quote: Lek3338
                        The main consolidation, and revenues will increase and the village can be developed

                        So develop ... the village. Develop - go in, talk about the area, for example. In Azerbaijan

                        And the kooks with "all government spending on the Internet, "to overthrow the president" and other "state organizations from below" - practice on cats ... but even if not his Aliyev, he will quickly guide you on the right path yes
                      2. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 13: 52
                        +1
                        You're right! TIRED enough with me. Continue to build the monuments, yesterday, Lenin and Stalin. Today Putin and Kadyrov, and then put someone else and Aliyev, do not forget those, because the sultan is the king’s corefan. Do not hit consonants, disperse, forbid to gather and voice your opinion, such as I drive non-Russians with forum, shut up. Do not tell FIGs like me how you live. I’m guilty in my free time I went into courage and spent on you.
                        As the saying goes ..... with this yourself, and I will try to change something economically.
                      3. Consultant
                        Consultant 18 November 2018 16: 11
                        -3
                        You again indicate what to do. This is ... counterproductive.

                        Quote: Lek3338
                        I will try to change something economically

                        This is already better. What to teach show an example how to do... And the advice, to be honest, is already fed up. And from local "experts around", and from non-local - too.

                        Good luck hi
                      4. NN52
                        NN52 18 November 2018 16: 34
                        +4
                        Lekxnumx

                        I wonder what you can economically (your "anecdote" about raising a particular village read ... / smiled ...)? How old are you?
                        I remember how we cadets were urgently taken out from Aji Kabul to IL 91 in 76, and how your compatriots valiantly tried to shoot on the sides .... And then what happened with our remaining instructors and others ... (my first instructor, who gave me a ticket to heaven, was crippled, by your compatriots ... when yours came and threw everyone out of the apartments)
                        And before that, for a couple of months we went to the market in Sabirabad, and everyone was very nice talking with us there ....
                        You have not changed anything there, and now, as there was one big teahouse, it remained ...
                        Therefore, with your advice and conclusions, do not climb to us, to Russia ///
                        Engage in the collective farm, young man ....
      3. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 18 November 2018 13: 34
        +1
        We saw this "people" brought by buses. And why did “against the power” suddenly become a kind of indulgence and a kind of lofty act that needs only to be supported?
  10. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 11: 07
    +2
    Sechin and Kadyrov decided to squeeze out the territory on which they found oil roofing felts gas, more than 60 percent fell on the territory of Ingushetia. According to the Ingush, and in return give nothing to the void. Ingushetia is the most densely populated subject of Russia in terms of territory, population. Evkurov I probably had a share against, but you can’t argue against the people. The Ingush events will go down in the modern history of the Russian Federation, how the people defend their actions at rallies and the police connected to it. Some spoke out that we would rather take off our shoulder straps than we would beat our people, including the Rosgvardeytsy. Kadyrov a typical king threatened, but they weren’t afraid. Why do I know more than the Russians themselves? And because listen to the interviews of the Ingush themselves outside the television. Although they turned off the mobile Internet there, but a lot of material in YouTube. And by the way, not only people but also deputies, geologists etc
    1. Consultant
      Consultant 18 November 2018 11: 16
      -1
      Quote: Lek3338
      Sechin and Kadyrov decided to squeeze out the territory on which they found oil roofing felts, gas, roofing felts, more than 60 percent fell on the territory of Ingushetia. According to the Ingush, and in return give nothing to the void

      Enchanting.

      Chechnya and Ingushetia are both part of the Russian Federation. Sechin is Rosneft, Rosneft is a state company. What does she have to "share" there, what's the difference to her, on the territory of which of the republics that oil (or gas) is located?

      Explain if possible repeat
      1. Lekxnumx
        Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 11: 29
        -4
        Quote: Consultant
        either Chechnya or Ingushetia are both part of the Russian Federation. Sechin is Rosneft, Rosneft is a state company. What does she have to "share" there, what's the difference to her, on the territory of which of the republics that oil (or gas) is located?

        How do I know? So say the Ingush, there is some kind of privatized contractor that belongs to the people of Putin. If you can get it without demarcating the borders, what is this booth for? Apparently the point is the tax revenues to the local budget. And Kadyrov wanted this money to go to Chechnya and not to Ingushetia.
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 18 November 2018 11: 33
          -7
          Quote: Lek3338
          How do I know? So say the Ingush

          That is, the OBS agency. Clear.

          Quote: Lek3338
          Apparently the matter is in tax revenues to the local budget

          Apparently. Almost certainly.

          Then these are just local graters between the leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia. And where then

          Quote: Lek3338
          some kind of privatized contractor that belongs to Putin’s people

          This is what you said? wink
          1. Lekxnumx
            Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 11: 38
            -3
            Quote: Consultant
            That is, the OBS agency. Clear.

            Maybe I’ll try to find the source, and then your business is to believe it or not.
            Quote: Consultant
            Apparently. Almost certainly.

            Then these are just local graters between the leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia. And where then

            Most likely. But not the graters of the heads of the two republics, they agreed to give each other. On the contrary, the deputies and the people, coupled with the police.
            Quote: Consultant
            This is what you said?

            We sort through all the options, but I'm not in the thick of things. I generally follow the events in Baku. Purely on the Internet.
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 18 November 2018 11: 47
              -9
              Quote: Lek3338
              I will try to find the source

              I would not, I do not see the point. I repeat this is a purely internal showdown between the two subjects of the federation.

              The "source", whoever he is, casts a shadow over the fence. Why - yes it is not even interesting, IMHO.

              Quote: Lek3338
              not graters of the heads of the two republics, they agreed to give each other. On the contrary, the deputies and the people, together with the police

              That is, Evkurov is not in control of the situation? Can't ensure the consent of "people, police and deputies" with their own decision (you said - "they agreed")?

              Everything is weirder and weirder ...

              Quote: Lek3338
              We sort through all the options

              Start then with the interference of the Anunahs with Nibiru. What is not an option? wink

              Quote: Lek3338
              I generally follow events in Baku

              About how belay
              1. Lekxnumx
                Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 11: 54
                +3
                Quote: Consultant
                That is, Yevkurov is not in control of the situation? Can't ensure the consent of "the people, police and deputies" with its own decision (where did you say - "they agreed")?

                Stranger and weirder

                As you can see, no!
                Quote: Consultant
                Start then with the interference of the Anunahs with Nibiru. What is not an option?

                Not interested
                Quote: Consultant
                About how

                So I personally do not care, of course, things are more important. But in my free time I’m interested in what is happening in the neighboring regions. It’s closer to Baku than to Moscow.
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 18 November 2018 11: 55
                  -7
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  it is closer to Baku than to Moscow

                  Well, if only on the map laughing
                  1. Lekxnumx
                    Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 12: 04
                    +3
                    Quote: Consultant
                    Well, if only on the map

                    Yes on the map, what else? That Chechens that Ingush is another planet with its teips, clans, religiosity on the ears.
                    1. Consultant
                      Consultant 18 November 2018 12: 04
                      -2
                      Quote: Lek3338
                      on the map, what else?

                      By jurisdiction hi
                      1. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 18 November 2018 12: 11
                        -3
                        Quote: Consultant
                        By jurisdiction

                        Definitely! De jure, but you can argue about de facto Chechnya. But I won’t, it’s not interesting hi
        2. Alexey Novikov
          Alexey Novikov 18 November 2018 13: 35
          +1
          > How do I know?
          Those. you do not know, but firmly convinced. This unconditional faith in my fiction always touched. Usually schizophrenics suffer from this.
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 18 November 2018 15: 03
          +1
          Quote: Lek3338
          How do I know? So say the Ingush

          wassat good With all my heart, the day is done. hi
    2. Sadko88
      Sadko88 18 November 2018 11: 24
      +5
      If they forgot that Chechnya and Ingushetia are an integral part of Russia, sooner or later in their place a Chechen - Ingush or Grozny region will form. Still particularly active provocateurs very well, joint work reconciles soldier
  11. The whistle
    The whistle 18 November 2018 13: 00
    0
    What did the argument not understand? Can the Dzerzhinsky division of the explosives at the garrison call?
    They will quickly draw borders again with mines, etc. And it’s better to combine in general! And where do they go? bully They had no borders at all, before the formation of the USSR! What are they driving there in general and Kazakhstan too? wassat
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 18 November 2018 15: 09
      +1
      Quote: Whistler
      What did the argument not understand?

      Yes, nothing. In addition to power. laughing In Ingushetia, the clans are fighting. In order to stagger and move Yevkurov, they are trying to play the territorial card. If there had not been a tribal squabble in Ingushetia, then this redistribution would have gone unnoticed.
  12. TAMBU
    TAMBU 18 November 2018 14: 11
    -1
    very culturally-civilized ... in general, judging by the situation, it is the World Congress of the Ingush people that should be the authority in the region. it’s so customary for them - the elders decide what and how, and not officials, it’s not clear (for them) where they were sent from ... again, the conflict shows that in a multinational federal country everything cannot be done under one tracing ...
    1. flicker
      flicker 18 November 2018 19: 17
      0
      it’s so customary for them - the elders decide what and how
      Maybe it was before. And now the elders are RELATING to SOUND what rich and powerful relatives tell them. The wealthy and influential, as a rule, have connections with foreign partners, the latter are very often controlled by special services.
      I think it will soon become clear who is stirring up the water.
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 November 2018 14: 25
    +2
    Shouldn't Moscow deal with such issues?
    1. polar fox
      polar fox 18 November 2018 18: 52
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      Quote: Gardamir
      Shouldn't Moscow deal with such issues?

      and what, is there something to steal?